WEBVTT - Parents Anonymous: Baby Proof… And Also Adult Proof

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to another mia podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>torres Rate Islander cultures.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, it's Anal's Todd here from This Glorious Mess, introducing

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<v Speaker 1>Hot Pod Summer, one hundred hours of curated listening across

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<v Speaker 1>the Mummamere network, just for you to escape the chaos

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy with the kids at home and the weather

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<v Speaker 1>warming up. We've got episodes of Parents Anonymous to share.

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<v Speaker 1>Parents Anonymous is part game show, part church confessional. You

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<v Speaker 1>share your deepest parenting shame, and myself and Stacey Hicks

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<v Speaker 1>rate you, but the worst parenting wins the most points,

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<v Speaker 1>so really you can't lose. And if you want more,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a link in the show Enjoy Parents Anonymous. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to This Glorious Mess. I'm Annealie Todd, single parent, self

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<v Speaker 1>confessed hot mess and happily learning on the job that

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<v Speaker 1>is parenting.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm Stacy Hicks. I'm the deputy editor at Mumma Mia,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm much more alive and much less filled. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not than I was last time.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's looking good, which selfishly, I am very grateful.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so sorry for putting you through that. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 3>putting up with me. This is our favorite time of

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<v Speaker 3>week where you let out all of your parenting confessions

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<v Speaker 3>in our very silly version of group therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Parents Anonymous, where you share your story and

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<v Speaker 1>get the guilt off your chest. And it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>way to release the shame and the guilt. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>got some shame and guilt to release for you, sweet Stacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we give you points based on our very

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<v Speaker 1>serious and very scientific grading system, which is.

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<v Speaker 3>Really not scientific at all. We just grade you how

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<v Speaker 3>we're feeling at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a vibe check and we're all in this together.

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<v Speaker 3>So first off, every episode we confess something that we've done,

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<v Speaker 3>just to make sure it's a safe space. We're not

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<v Speaker 3>sitting up on our high horse. No, So what's yours

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<v Speaker 3>this week?

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<v Speaker 1>It's dangerous not giving single parents a good name.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and I am.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just it's like, oh, that single mum's house,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's giving that so I had some friends over,

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<v Speaker 1>and the children had their friends over. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>a little rooftop, little private, very chic, very secret life

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<v Speaker 1>of us rooftop nice for some, I know, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much, tiny townhouse, but the rooftop is the selling point.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the children were on the rooftop and this

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<v Speaker 1>is three stories high, and there's a little ledge all

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<v Speaker 1>the way around a rooftop, as one would suspect and

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<v Speaker 1>need given it three stories high. And I was downstairs

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<v Speaker 1>working on the ground level, and one of the children

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<v Speaker 1>ran outside and looked up and started conversing with a

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<v Speaker 1>child where there is no rooftop but just another landing

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<v Speaker 1>of just a flat piece of metal that is not

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<v Speaker 1>part of the enclosed rooftop. So I ran up and

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<v Speaker 1>the kids had jumped over the edge of the balcony

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<v Speaker 1>and were just running around free range, three stories in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky with no barricade, and I died and screamed.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to actually send a little group chat message

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<v Speaker 1>to my friend saying, please, can you talk to your

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<v Speaker 1>children about not climbing over the rooftop barrier and running

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<v Speaker 1>around in open space three stories high. I did tell

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<v Speaker 1>them off. Full disclosure.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they do things that you don't think it's necessary

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<v Speaker 3>to tell them is not a good idea, and then

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<v Speaker 3>they just do it anyway. So I feel like this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't on you.

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<v Speaker 1>I blame YouTube game show giving jackass. That's what it's

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<v Speaker 1>giving exactly, And I would like to blame external influencers

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<v Speaker 1>that are not myself. It's fine, but I did endanger

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<v Speaker 1>the lives of other people's to it, not my own.

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<v Speaker 1>My kids knew not to do it. It's just sett of

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<v Speaker 1>humble brag in there. Yes, the genius kids didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>it because they're probably scared of the wrath of me.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other people's children did put their lives in

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<v Speaker 1>danger and it was a little bit scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is a little bit scary, but nothing bad happened,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank goodness, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, my little confession this week look not one of

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<v Speaker 3>my best parenting performances. But my daughter thinks sleep is

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<v Speaker 3>for the week, and so she does this fun little

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<v Speaker 3>thing sometimes, particularly when mummies stayed up and scrolled on

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok for too long, those are the nights she chooses.

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<v Speaker 3>She somehow knows to then wake up from about one

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<v Speaker 3>until about four.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so annoying.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not self sufficient. It's not like she's off playing

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<v Speaker 1>tea sets on her own.

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<v Speaker 3>She's she's three, and it's all about that Mummy needs

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<v Speaker 3>to be in with her doing whatever she's decided acting

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<v Speaker 3>or like no not well one minute yes and one

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<v Speaker 3>minute no. She just decides on the vibe. But it

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<v Speaker 3>got to about the two hour mark and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just sick of it, and she won't let me leave

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<v Speaker 3>the room. So I made up the excuse, mummy's just

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<v Speaker 3>got a wee. I'm just gonna wea. I'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 3>But instead I went an ate grated cheese straight from

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<v Speaker 3>the packet in the lounge room because I was at

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<v Speaker 3>that point.

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<v Speaker 1>You mean, my sustenance at that time.

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<v Speaker 3>I did. I did. I was not prepared to be

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<v Speaker 3>up for two hours into three hours in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I did.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe shnak, yeah, look could have been worse. It's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Could have been a vodka.

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<v Speaker 1>Well what I felt like, that's probably what I would

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<v Speaker 1>have done, ye little medicinal red.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, that would have been nice. Avoided that, So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna take it as a wind.

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<v Speaker 1>Compared to me and endangering the lives of minus yours

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<v Speaker 1>is a very minor. Mine's quite pathetic now, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on now, this show doesn't exist without your guilty confessions,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you can hear, we express ours. Sometimes they're

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<v Speaker 1>worse than others. I was pretty bad this week. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>step up my game next week. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>to do something more danger I will do something horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>do better, and by better I mean worse. But we

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<v Speaker 1>your name. No one will ever know it's you. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>and keep sharing because they bring us so much joy

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<v Speaker 1>today's show, the three new confessions that we have not

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<v Speaker 1>heard yed are called Babies, home Improvement Right, Actual Emergency Services, requiet,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh this is new, and home Alone. I do love

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. An All right, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>My son has just started what feels like a deep

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<v Speaker 3>obsession with the inside of cupboards. He calls to anything

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<v Speaker 3>with a door and tries to open it to either

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<v Speaker 3>get in or pull everything out. It's way earlier than

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<v Speaker 3>I thought this stuff would happen, and feel completely underprepared,

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<v Speaker 3>and also like a parent who has not childproofed anything,

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<v Speaker 3>literally nothing. It's like I blinked, and now he's crawling.

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<v Speaker 3>So I got a handyman to install a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>child safety devices on cupboards, doors, and drawers. They are

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<v Speaker 3>so good that I cannot even get into them. So

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<v Speaker 3>now I don't latch them up and I just leave

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<v Speaker 3>them open, so I may as well have not got

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<v Speaker 3>them in the first place. So embarrassing. Ah. Look, I

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<v Speaker 3>never did the childproofing thing for this exact reason, because

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<v Speaker 3>when I went to other people's houses that had kids,

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<v Speaker 3>I was one of the last ones in my group

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<v Speaker 3>to have kids. I would have that thing of being like, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>how do I open our fridge or how do I

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<v Speaker 3>open your cupboard? I really think it's more just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you move the knifes up high and everything else. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a learning exercise for them.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one of the most annoying phases one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>percent the cupboard phase and also they jam their fingers

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<v Speaker 1>in the cupboard. Yeah, it's not even about the mess

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<v Speaker 1>or the danger, it's just annoying. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I did for this age and stage? And this is

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<v Speaker 1>for me, who's quite useless. I think this is quite level.

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<v Speaker 1>I had one cupboard that was all just plastic tupperware

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<v Speaker 1>kid's plates, and that was the lowest and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that they had the access to. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the pulling out things cupboard. And it was always messy, disorganized.

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<v Speaker 1>It always was covered in like dog hair or human

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<v Speaker 1>hair because it was all over the ground. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it was shoved in at the end of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the things cupboard. And that's how I

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<v Speaker 1>got through that phase.

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<v Speaker 3>That was one of our activities that got us through,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the depths where you're counting down to

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<v Speaker 3>the next nap, when they're in that thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>More until like four o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Wine that too, but when you're like, okay, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>forty five minutes left on this wake window, which I

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<v Speaker 3>was such a psycho with that stuff. But then I

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<v Speaker 3>would be like, what else can we do? And one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things I would let her do. Granted I

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<v Speaker 3>had my baby in lockdown. So spare thought for me

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<v Speaker 3>was that she would play in the tupperwar draw for

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<v Speaker 3>about it. So you've just got to let them play

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<v Speaker 3>with these things, to be honest, that's the stuff they

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<v Speaker 3>like more than toys. So really this is a cost

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<v Speaker 3>saving exercise for you. The fact that you can't get

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<v Speaker 3>these cupboards closed is going to benefit you in the

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<v Speaker 3>long run. Couse, he lives times. Just entertain them with a.

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<v Speaker 1>Little any weight or two, it's fine. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>bring up that back in our day, or more accurately

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<v Speaker 1>for your day. No, our parent no, I had little

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<v Speaker 1>baby closy things that I sort of stuck around and

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<v Speaker 1>then never used. As well, our parents didn't use them,

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<v Speaker 1>and we managed to survive. I think as long as

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<v Speaker 1>there's like no access to harmful chemicals or steak knives,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah you're winning. It's everything else is kind of like whatever, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, So what are we rating this one? Then

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<v Speaker 1>it's very mild, it's very inoffensive. I think points come

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<v Speaker 1>off for the wasted money of the handyman, because you

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<v Speaker 1>could have just popped off to Bunnings and stuck them

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<v Speaker 1>on yourself and then knock those and that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been cheaper.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, that part's embarrassing. I'm not gonna lie to it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're among friends. I do this too.

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<v Speaker 1>That was that was an unnecessary outsourced cost. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm going to give them six little cups of

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<v Speaker 1>poison out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>I ended up just doing a big old baby gate

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<v Speaker 3>that was so ugly, but a retractable one though, that

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<v Speaker 3>went across.

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<v Speaker 1>Our trip over every time that you walked in and out.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, accai.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a very tall person and stepped over at one

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<v Speaker 3>time and tripped over onto the floor and winded myself.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm giving you eight baby gates out of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, moving on the next one, Stace, what have

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<v Speaker 1>we got actual emergency services required? I am the worst

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<v Speaker 1>parent in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I could give you a close run.

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<v Speaker 1>Few months we've all thought that obviously, Oh I leave

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<v Speaker 1>my baby in the car when I pick up my

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<v Speaker 1>toddler from daycare. Oh god, it's too hard to wrangle

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<v Speaker 1>them both, and it's a two minute in and out.

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<v Speaker 1>But this time I locked them in the car, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I was the mom having the full blown meltdown

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<v Speaker 1>in the car park, had to get an emergency locksmith.

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<v Speaker 1>And now I don't leave my baby in the car. Ever,

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<v Speaker 1>does she mean.

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<v Speaker 3>She locked them both in the car? Somehow that's less

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<v Speaker 3>bad yes, than just a baby than just the Somehow,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Somehow endangering both your children is less

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<v Speaker 3>bad for the optics with the other daycare parents because

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't look like you left your baby alone. You

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<v Speaker 3>just it was a little miss.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked more like an accident than if you just

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<v Speaker 1>locked the baby. Then they would know that that was intentional.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I can see why you do this, because getting

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<v Speaker 3>a baby in and out of a car.

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<v Speaker 1>Seat is the most annoying thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why we don't have the ones like

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<v Speaker 3>in America where they swivel and so you can just

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<v Speaker 3>get them in and out really easily.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to bend over and crunch it out, and

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<v Speaker 1>they cry, and then.

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<v Speaker 3>When you've got a toddler who's checking a tantrum when

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<v Speaker 3>you're on the way out. I totally understand why you've

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<v Speaker 3>done it. And it is literally a quick in and out.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I would like to state legally that it is

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<v Speaker 1>illegal to leave your baby in a car, so just

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<v Speaker 1>I just want illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>To jaywalk too. But we're all doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not recommending that you leave baby vocating animals, you

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<v Speaker 1>know as well, just a little cheeky caveat Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>legalities you with the rules today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, not advocating for it. But everyone does it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, everyone's done it at least once. Yes, definitely yes

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<v Speaker 1>see see. But I think that this was a good

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<v Speaker 1>learning This was a learning tool for this person because

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<v Speaker 1>now they don't do it anymore. That's why I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>advocate for public shame, because when we have moments of

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<v Speaker 1>public shame, which I'm assuming this was a pretty big one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>then we don't do it again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, how I'm done. They're obviously fine, You're obviously

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<v Speaker 3>a great mum. You snapped into actually did the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're giving you seven car keys out of ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you because this is pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like we're rating it as so we're rating

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<v Speaker 1>it really high or really low because it's pretty bad. Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the fact that you told us about it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you for telling us. And the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the daycare people will definitely would have been judging you.

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<v Speaker 3>They would have been a group chat going around.

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<v Speaker 1>And the early educators as well as the other parents

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<v Speaker 1>could have very much been judging this. So for that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you nine and a half locksmiths.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that. Now it's a biggie.

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<v Speaker 3>Confession. Three home alone, I leave my Oh, we've got

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<v Speaker 3>a theme this week. I leave my son alone a lot. H.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean in the I'm going to the gym.

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<v Speaker 3>Catch you laid away. Here's the thing. He's four months old. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's at the point where he's awake for twelve hours

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<v Speaker 3>a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get me wrong. When the kid smiles and all laughs,

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<v Speaker 3>I swoon with butterflies. But I don't understand how parents

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<v Speaker 3>can do the whole. I stimulate my baby all day long.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of the time, I'm the last thing he's interested in.

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<v Speaker 3>He wants to look at the fish tank, he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to play with his toys, swipe at the floppy giraffe

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<v Speaker 3>on his play mat, or watch his mobile. So during

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<v Speaker 3>the day I spend what is probably a bad parent

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<v Speaker 3>amount of time leaving him alone. He'll be crawling around

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<v Speaker 3>on his mat, chewing on toys, staring at various objects

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<v Speaker 3>in the room, or babbling to himself while I play

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<v Speaker 3>a video game. Browsing Internet or do chores. People tell

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<v Speaker 3>me that I need to interact with him, but I

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<v Speaker 3>venture that I only get accumulative two hours a day

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<v Speaker 3>of direct back and forth interaction with him.

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<v Speaker 1>How is a four month old crawling around?

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<v Speaker 3>He must just be like rolling around. Oh that's awful,

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<v Speaker 3>to be honest. I think when my daughter was little,

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<v Speaker 3>I had this thing of thinking that you had to

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<v Speaker 3>be there and be their full source of entertainment. But

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<v Speaker 3>they actually don't care. They're new to the world, so

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<v Speaker 3>everything is like the best. Like if they see a

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<v Speaker 3>cloud day made, they say, a little leaf on the ground, awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>They've never seen any of these things before, Like they

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<v Speaker 3>actually enjoy all of that stuff. You're still there in

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<v Speaker 3>the house. Life is their YouTube exactly. I was a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit worried when you said you leave him alone

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. I thought you met you were popping out

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<v Speaker 3>to the shop, So you're not. You're there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, supervisions recommended.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's only going to get harder from here, Like

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<v Speaker 3>the baby is going to need you more and more

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<v Speaker 3>as the baby starts to get more mobile. But while

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<v Speaker 3>they're a little crawling, rolling potato.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on common Also, can we circle back to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is a four month awake for twelve hours a day.

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<v Speaker 1>They should be I've just been a while, but their

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<v Speaker 1>mean to sleep quite a bit during the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well maybe that's because you had babies that slept, But

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<v Speaker 3>my baby was only awake for about this amount of

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<v Speaker 3>time as well, so all day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, didn't sleep during the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess she's not factoring in naps.

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<v Speaker 1>Twelve hours or is that the total awake time of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty for hour period.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>This just doesn't feel like it's enough sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's meaning sleeps at night, but this is

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<v Speaker 3>about the amount during the day with your little naps

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<v Speaker 3>that time.

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<v Speaker 1>The baby sounds very resilient, very advanced.

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<v Speaker 3>The baby doesn't care, thinks that you and him are

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<v Speaker 3>the same person at the moment anyway, And do you

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<v Speaker 3>know what this speaks to is a very advanced secure

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<v Speaker 3>attachment style, which is not what my baby's had. It

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<v Speaker 3>was very anxious or disorganized, which is the worst style

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<v Speaker 3>of attachment.

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<v Speaker 1>And they needed me all the time. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>actually great, and I think just keep nurturing that self sufficient,

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<v Speaker 1>secure attachment where you're not really needed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's great, It's a win. This kid will be

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<v Speaker 3>so happy to entertain themselves. They're used to it, so

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<v Speaker 3>self supering.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, they'll be successful in life, they'll be good at relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>not too needy.

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<v Speaker 3>As long as you're not popping out to the nail

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<v Speaker 3>salon supervision, you're a great parent within earshot, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or the little monitor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's fine, so fine, Yeah fine, So what are

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<v Speaker 3>we giving it? Look? I think it's pretty harmless. I

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<v Speaker 3>think this person's actually giving themselves a hard time for

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<v Speaker 3>something that doesn't need it.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a saying, and it's no good parent ever has

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<v Speaker 1>wondered if they're a bad parent? Yes? Is that? Did

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<v Speaker 1>I say that the right way?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait? Wait, no, that's wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait there's a say, it's a really good me.

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<v Speaker 3>If you were a good parent, you would ask yourself

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<v Speaker 3>if you're a bad parent, Like a bad parent just

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>A bad parent doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we've nailed it, but you get.

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<v Speaker 1>The viet The sentiment's there.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're worrying about whether you're a good enough parent,

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<v Speaker 3>then you are one exactly that was better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, kind of you nailed it, and you're nailing it

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<v Speaker 1>and you're fine because the fact that you care means

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<v Speaker 1>that you're a good parent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what are we giving to this one?

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<v Speaker 1>My awarding system this week has been for the worst person,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that this one's fine. So I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna throw like a cheeky five and a half supervision

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<v Speaker 1>points out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is absolutely fine. And I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>this one is very bad on the scale because babies

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<v Speaker 3>are boring. Babies are They're really no so fun but

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<v Speaker 3>so far so boring.

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<v Speaker 1>For about eight months, they're quite actually enjoyable. Yeah they're viby,

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<v Speaker 1>but a four month old is a worm. They're boring

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<v Speaker 1>and so enjoy it while they're not needy.

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<v Speaker 3>Just leave them on that little playmate, they'll be happy

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<v Speaker 3>as larry. So I'll give you six playmates out of ten?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we declaring the winner this week?

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<v Speaker 3>So first we had the baby with the failed baby proofing.

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<v Speaker 1>Fine, fine, Fine.

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<v Speaker 3>Then next we had the baby in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaving the baby in the car the daycare early educators

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<v Speaker 1>and parents at pick up.

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the chaos of that, I really do. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's really illegal. So like such a stickler for the rules,

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<v Speaker 1>but today is illegal, Stacey. So I feel like because

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<v Speaker 1>home alone, like just not really interacting as much of

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<v Speaker 1>the four month old. Yeah, the best. Worst was definitely

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<v Speaker 1>locking a baby at a toddler in a car, having

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<v Speaker 1>to involve the emergency services. Yeah, it's just a unanimous

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<v Speaker 1>obvious clip. You well done, to you, well done. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't advocate for children, I'm dogs.

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