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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and

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Speaker 1: I'm don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to you Beauty, the daily podcast for your Face. I'm

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Speaker 1: Aaron Dockerty and welcome to the formula. Every week I

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Speaker 1: sit down with celebs and some of the biggest names

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Speaker 1: in beauty and take a look into their skincare routines.

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Speaker 1: Today's episode is a must listen if you've ever struggled

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Speaker 1: with sensitive skin or wondered if your skincare routine is

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Speaker 1: doing more harm than good. We're joined by Skin content

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Speaker 1: creator and writer Morgan Rowan, whose expertise is helping people

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Speaker 1: navigate the tricky world of sensitive skin, from unexpected flare

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Speaker 1: ups to emergency recovery one oh one. She's sharing her

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Speaker 1: best tips and favorite products for keeping your skin calm

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Speaker 1: and happy. Will umpa the most common skincare mistakes people

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Speaker 1: with sensitive skin make, viral trends that could be wreaking

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Speaker 1: havoc on your complexion, and the all random ingredient that

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Speaker 1: works in just about everyone's skincare routine. Ps, it's not

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Speaker 1: hyaluronic acid.

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Speaker 2: You are such beautiful skin.

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Speaker 1: But how Morgan, thank you so much for joining us

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Speaker 1: on the show today. I'm so excited to chat with you.

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Speaker 1: You regularly write for Mama Maya and we finally managed

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Speaker 1: to sit down for a chat all about sensitive skin.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much, my forte, my love, my interest.

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Speaker 1: Well if someone who has sensitive skin as well, I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to chat with you all about what you use,

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Speaker 1: what works for your skin type, and what kind of

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Speaker 1: some similar issues. I wanted to start by asking you,

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Speaker 1: how did this whole thing start on social media? Why

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Speaker 1: did you take such a focus on sensitive sink and

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Speaker 1: do you feel like there was kind of a gap

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Speaker 1: in content creators sharing these kind of skin struggles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean casting my mind back. It was about

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Speaker 2: seven years ago and I had what I now know

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Speaker 2: is a very very intense sort of EXMA flare up

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Speaker 2: to that point, it was like the occasional breakout, but

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Speaker 2: thought to and it turned into this overnight thing that

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Speaker 2: and went through the whole process, went to a dermatologist

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Speaker 2: Earth works for me? What on Earth do I even

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Speaker 2: up eventually sharing a bit about it and posting because

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Speaker 2: I felt like maybe XMA specifically or having that really

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Speaker 2: wanted to share purely because connecting with other people and

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Speaker 2: kind of doing the little almost like the little checklist

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Speaker 2: And you know, being able to perhaps share something that

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Speaker 2: recommendation was just really valuable for me. It seems to

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Speaker 1: Well, I love that, and I love how you take

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Speaker 1: your followers through that journey with you looking at different

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Speaker 1: products and different things that are working for your skin type. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: One of the biggest ones is putting too many things

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Speaker 1: And it's hard because there's so many products that look

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Speaker 2: Two big ones for me are fragrance. As much as

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Speaker 2: And it can also kind of come in a few

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Speaker 2: Not to say like you can rule the mountain highly

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Speaker 2: Saint Ives apracopscrub I know there have been a lot

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Speaker 1: That's so true because I think the instant satisfaction of

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Speaker 1: I wanted to also ask you, what are some things

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Speaker 2: So I've got a couple of really good ones that

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Speaker 2: The one thing that sits outside of that is sunscreen.

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Speaker 2: No matter how fled up, how irritated your skin is,

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Speaker 2: sunscreen is an essential every single day, which we all know,

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Speaker 2: The last thing you want to do is leave it unprotective.

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Speaker 2: And then I've got three products that they're literally in

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Speaker 2: I keep in my bathroom. The number one one for me,

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Speaker 2: it's the Tower twenty eight SOS Spray, which is very

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Speaker 1: And the founder of Tower twenty eight obviously deals with

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Speaker 2: They are such a great brand, and I love their

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Speaker 2: thinking the whole way through all of their products and

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Speaker 2: in regards to sensitive skin and exma. So yeah, the

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Speaker 2: It's such a great one. The second one that I

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Speaker 2: always have, it's the TBH Skincare Rebound Serum, So it's

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Speaker 2: part of their Beautiful Rebound range. And this is, like

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Speaker 2: I've described it before as being the skin care product

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Speaker 1: It's so good for sensitive skin girls, but also anyone

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Speaker 1: who experiences blemishes or acne, or if your skin's feeling

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Speaker 1: a little bit angry or irritated or inflamed. This product

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Speaker 1: has got ingredients like glycerine, it's got nice cinamide, hyaluronic acid.

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Speaker 1: It's just like as it says on the website, it's

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Speaker 1: was also formulated by Hannah English, who is a skin scientist.

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Speaker 1: So you know it's going to be good, yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just got this whole laundry list of wonderful

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Speaker 2: ingredients and yeah, like you said, it's not just sensitive

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Speaker 1: What else is on your little hit list?

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Speaker 2: So the third thing I always have is the even

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Speaker 2: psychal Fate cream. This was probably the first product when

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Speaker 2: so I still find it really wonderful and useful today.

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Speaker 2: But it's also been with me for a long time now.

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Speaker 2: you please help with my exma. The pharmacist was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: she was like, I've never seen someone have such an

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Speaker 2: immediate calming reaction. My skin went from just being completely

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Speaker 1: So that's the best news. I think Aven is just

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Speaker 1: one of those MVP brands that you can't go wrong

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Speaker 1: and it's French skincare, and French skincare is good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: on every trend. What do you think about the glass

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Speaker 1: skin product trend, because obviously that involves layering so many

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Speaker 2: potentially because I also have dry skin, so I'm starting

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Speaker 2: especially if we're doing light layers of hydration and it

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Speaker 2: a great way to kind of have a lot going

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Speaker 2: do think it's interesting though the end result, because I

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Speaker 2: feel like glass skin or that term kind of ends

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Speaker 2: up maybe altering your expectations. We all have paws, and

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Speaker 2: we all have freckles and different things going on. And

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Speaker 2: I could do ten layers of a beautiful toner and

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Speaker 2: essence and all those sorts of things, and you're still

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Speaker 2: going to see my black heads and you're probably still

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Speaker 2: going to see a few little bumps that I've got

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Speaker 2: all different sorts of parts of my skin. So realistically,

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, our skin's still going

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Speaker 2: to look like skin, just very very dooy.

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Speaker 1: In sin and normal skin is normal skin. So I

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Speaker 1: totally agree with that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what is your self care to you give

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Speaker 2: us the dirty detail, Morgan.

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Speaker 1: I want to move on to your usual morning and

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Speaker 2: In the morning, I like to keep things quite simple,

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Speaker 2: and I like to take the same approach to my

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Speaker 2: reason why that product's in there, why is it in there?

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Speaker 2: What's it doing?

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Speaker 1: We love to hear that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's again going back to like what I

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Speaker 2: so then I know what function is everything's got and

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Speaker 2: we don't have competing things that are maybe doing too

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Speaker 2: much or doing nothing. Yeah, that's where I like to start.

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Speaker 2: So in the morning, I like to start with Tona.

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Speaker 2: I've been loving the Doctor j Art Serahmiddin skin barrier toner.

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Speaker 2: It is lightweight, it's packed with seramides, and especially now

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Speaker 2: that we're going into the warmer weather, it is not

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Speaker 2: too heavy. It's really nice and thin and just a

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Speaker 2: really good, like hydration starter for the day.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm someone who always skips toner because I'm always like,

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Speaker 1: I do have sensitive skin as well, I've got dry skin,

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Speaker 1: but I'm always just like, it's just another step. Sell

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Speaker 1: me tona. Why do you love Toner?

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Speaker 2: I like it for two reasons. I like it because

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Speaker 2: I like to have a little bit of something on

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Speaker 2: before I go in with an active I think that's

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Speaker 2: just me always being prepared for any sort of reacting

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Speaker 2: tiny bit of a barrier. Also when it comes to this,

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Speaker 2: one's pifically or a hydrating toner. I mean, I really

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Speaker 2: go for those over perhaps a clarifying one, because it's

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Speaker 2: just another layer of kind of seramides and good things

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Speaker 2: deteriorated overnight, we're just giving a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: Okay, love it. I think I need to just stop

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Speaker 1: being so lazy. Tell me why else is in your

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Speaker 2: I would follow that up in the morning. I'm going

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Speaker 2: in with I've got the doctor Lara Devkin. It's the

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Speaker 2: vitamin C B f ulic serum.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard of this, but I looked it up

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Speaker 1: because I was like, what is this. It's two hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty nine dollars it's hatchy on the bank account,

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Speaker 1: but why is it so good? Why do you like it?

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Speaker 2: So I really enjoy that. It's obviously that vitamin C.

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Speaker 2: It's the for rule, which I know there's another very

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Speaker 2: spendy serum that has a similar combination, and so it's

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Speaker 2: got those fantastic elements, but this one's paired with the

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Speaker 2: vitamin B and vitamin E, so it's kind of an

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Speaker 2: massive dump of antioxidants in the best way. And also

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Speaker 2: again for my sensitive skin. I can sometimes feel like

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Speaker 2: vitamin C in general can be a little bit much

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Speaker 2: by itself, whereas this formula I find it's just so

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Speaker 2: well tolerated, and I think maybe it's a little bit

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Speaker 2: of like I said, the vitamin C can kind of

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Speaker 2: because there's other ingredients at the same time supporting my

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Speaker 2: the vitamin C or brightening product I have kept using

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Speaker 2: the most or been most committed to and actually stuck

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Speaker 2: with because I've not had any reactions and I'm seeing results.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love that. I feel like I've got try

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Speaker 1: that because I also use their skin Cuticle Cee for

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Speaker 1: all serum, which is similar price point, but again, like

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Speaker 1: it's interesting to see what else is out there and

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Speaker 1: what kind of you know, you mentioned that it's got

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Speaker 1: vitamin B and vitamin E and that sounds like a

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Speaker 1: really good time if you've got sensitive skin. Do you

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Speaker 1: have any other kind of serums or creams that you

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Speaker 2: So I generally leave it there. For kind of serums,

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Speaker 2: I'll do generally a lightweight moisturizer, especially I live in Queensland,

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Speaker 2: so it's very beautiful and humid at the moment. The

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Speaker 2: one I've been reaching for the most is the plum

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Speaker 2: Plump cream from Glow Recipe. It's just juicy and lovely

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Speaker 2: and sinks into the skin really quickly, which I love

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Speaker 2: and I kind of feel like at the moment, like

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Speaker 2: with the tona and then the serum, I can just

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Speaker 2: kind of keep it to those three steps and that's

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Speaker 2: all my hydration covered because we're doing it in a

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Speaker 2: a really thick kind of moisturizer at the end of that.

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Speaker 1: And have you got a favorite SBF that you use

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Speaker 1: over the top.

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Speaker 2: I try a lot of different ones because it's one

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Speaker 2: of the easiest things to try because I'm worrying it

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Speaker 2: every single day. But the one I've been going at

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Speaker 2: the moment it's a new formula from Cancer Council. They've

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Speaker 2: kind of revamped their range, which I love, and they've

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Speaker 2: got this one which is called a Hydrating Boost SBF,

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Speaker 2: So it's SBF fifty and it's a little bit like

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Speaker 2: a more sort of elevated primer texture sunscreen, but it's

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Speaker 2: superfordable and comes in a wonderful little sort of pump

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Speaker 2: pack that makes it very easy. So that's the one

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Speaker 2: I've been reaching for at the moment. It's fantastic under

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Speaker 1: I've been trying this too. I love how light weight

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Speaker 1: it is. And they've also, as you said, they've repackaged

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Speaker 1: all of their formulas and everything that's really colorful and

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Speaker 1: cool and esthetic. Now think that's to you can to cancel.

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Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about your nighttime repair. What

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Speaker 1: kind of products are involved in your nighttime skincare routine.

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Speaker 2: So I am a very big fan of a solid

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Speaker 2: double cleansing routine. I love a cleansing bomb and especially

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Speaker 2: the gun cough cleansing bomb. They've got it either in

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Speaker 2: the tub or in the tube. It's the same formula,

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Speaker 2: but they're just different packaging. So I have the tube

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Speaker 2: is probably great for any skin type, but if you've

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Speaker 2: got sensitive skin, it is ideal. It is fragrance free,

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Speaker 2: it's really really nourishing. It just molts everything away.

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Speaker 1: You always talk about this one as well. I need

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Speaker 1: to try it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's one that I just when I'm trying different

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Speaker 2: when I'm having a reaction or when I've had maybe

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Speaker 2: this is always a product I come back to and

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Speaker 2: So I think that always really helps. Is that makes

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Speaker 1: Always go back to it. Yeah, so what do you

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Speaker 2: So I do like to change up my second cleanser

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Speaker 2: gel cleanser, but it's a very gentle gel and it's

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Speaker 2: also got seramides in there, which is fantastic. I love

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Speaker 2: a really hydrating second cleanse so that you get that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing better than having that like kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, when you're taking off your makeup and you've

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Speaker 1: really good. They sound like beautiful products. Have you got

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Speaker 2: So I'm using two serums at the moment, the ordinary

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Speaker 2: nice cinamide and zinc formula. I know it's very popular

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Speaker 2: I am a big, big fan of my cinamide in general.

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Speaker 2: It is an ingredient, especially with sensitive skin. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of when I lean a lot, because it does so

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Speaker 2: many different things but isn't kind of aggressive or doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel too intimidating to use. And honestly, I just love

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Speaker 2: the ordinary formula. It goes on so well. I always

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Speaker 2: get great results, and I notice when it's not my

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Speaker 1: I think it's such a good especially if you experience

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Speaker 2: It's the retinaals. It's a little bit so released, it's

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Speaker 2: using it, which is very nice. And then it's also

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Speaker 1: Will you use that every night or every couple of

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Speaker 2: I use it about three times a week and kind

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Speaker 2: would use it more than three times a week. It's

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Speaker 2: be playing with fire a little bit. We do. I

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Speaker 2: am a big fan of a face oil and I

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Speaker 2: do play around with them a few times, but this

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Speaker 2: it's the go to face hero. I have been purchasing

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Speaker 1: It's such a goody. I love that as well. Do

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Speaker 2: I do sometimes depending on how dry my skin feels

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Speaker 2: and also how humid it is and how comfortable I am.

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Speaker 2: So if I am reaching for another sort of moisturizer,

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Speaker 2: I like to go for something a little bit richer overnight.

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Speaker 2: I really enjoy it's the Sunday Riley one. I think

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Speaker 2: it's called their ice moisturizer, and it's just a beautiful,

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Speaker 2: I don't like too many layers because it can end

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Speaker 1: I feel that too. I love the glazed doughnut in theory,

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Speaker 1: lying on your pillow, You're like, I do not want

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Speaker 1: my face sticking on my pillow gaze at all, So

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get to that level. Hit you've

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Speaker 1: made one of the greatest discoveries of all time, or

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Speaker 1: miss never again never. I want to move on to

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Speaker 1: our hits and missus. This is my favorite part of

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Speaker 1: the show because we get some really controversial answers. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: we get some really kind of like nosey answers. I

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Speaker 1: want to know what skincare technique or ingredient you love

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Speaker 1: for sensitive skin and one that you hate.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I can start with the technique that I

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Speaker 2: hate skin needling straight up. I've done it at home,

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Speaker 2: which was ill advised. And did not end well. I've

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Speaker 2: had a professional kind of experience that also. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: a particularly adverse experience, but it was unpleasant. It wasn't enjoyable.

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Speaker 2: I don't enjoy it. I don't like it for my skin.

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Speaker 2: I think I can definitely understand that if someone's tried

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Speaker 2: it and it works for them and they're seeing results,

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Speaker 2: that's excellent. But there's also a few people in my

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Speaker 2: life that have kind of tried it and not seen

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Speaker 2: any results, so.

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Speaker 1: That's so interesting. We've had a few experts actually come

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Speaker 1: on recently and talk about this, and then we've had

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Speaker 1: some people cancel it. So it's very much, I think,

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Speaker 1: a buzzword right now because it is such a popular

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Speaker 1: treatment and so many people are obviously trying it, but

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Speaker 1: as you said, it might not be good for all

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Speaker 1: skin types. Have you got something that you love?

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Speaker 2: Probably my biggest love, and I harp on about it

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Speaker 2: a lot, is nice inamide as an ingredient, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's one that has maybe in the last sort

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Speaker 2: appreciate it, which is fantastic because in my mind, it's

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Speaker 2: always just like if you want something, it's an antioxidant,

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Speaker 2: it's supporting your skin barrier, it helps calm your skin.

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Speaker 2: It's just a really good all rounder ingredient, and it's

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Speaker 2: something that you can use that isn't going that full

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Speaker 2: kind of active mode. It plays well with others. You

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Speaker 2: can get really affordable formulas like the ordinary one we

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Speaker 2: were talking about, and it's something that, like, if I

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Speaker 2: strip back my routine even more than what I've got

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Speaker 2: at the moment, it's always an ingredient that I have

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Speaker 2: in there and go back to again and again.

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Speaker 1: It's so underrated. I feel like we need to give

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Speaker 1: nice cinamate a little more love, but more so than

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Speaker 1: hyaluronic acid, because come on, we've got a good ear. Morgan,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on the show today.

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Speaker 1: It was so good to chat with you and you know,

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Speaker 1: find out all of the products you like using for

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Speaker 1: your sensitive skin. I picked up some tips and products there,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sure our listeners did too.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I could talk about this all day.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to this episode of

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Speaker 1: You Beauty. And if you've got something that you want

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Speaker 1: me to talk about or someone you'd love me to interview,

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Speaker 1: you Beauty podcast. The producer of You Beauty is Cassie Merritt,

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Speaker 1: with audio production by Lou Hill. And I'll see you tomorrow. Bye,