1 00:00:11,064 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,504 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,504 --> 00:00:30,104 Speaker 1: to the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney. 6 00:00:29,784 --> 00:00:32,864 Speaker 3: And I'm Cassemulakitch and coming up on the show today. 7 00:00:32,984 --> 00:00:35,544 Speaker 1: There's no way to sugarcoat this. All the young stars 8 00:00:35,624 --> 00:00:38,424 Speaker 1: and some youngish stars in Hollywood, they're all hooking up, 9 00:00:38,504 --> 00:00:41,184 Speaker 1: they're all going on walks, they're all getting revenge with tiktoks. 10 00:00:41,424 --> 00:00:43,184 Speaker 1: We're going to get into the tangled web of who 11 00:00:43,264 --> 00:00:45,784 Speaker 1: is dating who in Hollywood at the moment, because you 12 00:00:45,784 --> 00:00:48,064 Speaker 1: would need like a private investigator to figure this out. 13 00:00:48,104 --> 00:00:50,344 Speaker 3: I'm confused. Yes, well, we're going to get into that. 14 00:00:50,824 --> 00:00:53,544 Speaker 1: Plus, the stars of your favorite TV shows kind of 15 00:00:53,584 --> 00:00:55,944 Speaker 1: hate you at the moment, and it's with good reason. 16 00:00:56,264 --> 00:00:58,144 Speaker 1: A whole bunch of stars from some of the biggest 17 00:00:58,144 --> 00:01:00,744 Speaker 1: TV shows in the world have come out against some 18 00:01:00,784 --> 00:01:02,544 Speaker 1: of their fandom and we're going to get into that. 19 00:01:02,824 --> 00:01:05,264 Speaker 3: But first, but first. 20 00:01:04,824 --> 00:01:08,664 Speaker 2: One of my all time favorite two thousand stars is 21 00:01:08,744 --> 00:01:10,864 Speaker 2: finally releasing some new. 22 00:01:10,344 --> 00:01:12,504 Speaker 3: New music, Hillary Dove. 23 00:01:13,144 --> 00:01:16,384 Speaker 2: So she just announced that she is going to be 24 00:01:16,464 --> 00:01:19,384 Speaker 2: making a comeback to music for the first time in 25 00:01:19,424 --> 00:01:22,304 Speaker 2: a decade. So she just let out a press release 26 00:01:22,464 --> 00:01:26,544 Speaker 2: saying that she has signed with Atlantic Records, who also 27 00:01:26,584 --> 00:01:31,424 Speaker 2: represent like Ed, Sharon, Lizzoe, Cardi B big label, and 28 00:01:31,624 --> 00:01:35,264 Speaker 2: she's going to be releasing new music. On top of that, 29 00:01:35,784 --> 00:01:38,904 Speaker 2: she is going to be doing a docuseries sort of 30 00:01:38,984 --> 00:01:44,104 Speaker 2: chronicling the whole process with none other than Sam Wrench. 31 00:01:44,624 --> 00:01:45,944 Speaker 3: Laura who is Sam Wrench? 32 00:01:46,464 --> 00:01:49,944 Speaker 1: Yes, the documentary filmmaker who did Taylor Swift's documentary. Yeah, 33 00:01:49,944 --> 00:01:51,664 Speaker 1: so I think we can expect that lens of a 34 00:01:51,704 --> 00:01:54,064 Speaker 1: bit of grittiness, a bit of looking through the lens 35 00:01:54,104 --> 00:01:56,664 Speaker 1: of the Hollywood side and the theme side of her life, 36 00:01:56,704 --> 00:01:59,744 Speaker 1: but a very sort of specific type of documentary storytelling. 37 00:01:59,944 --> 00:02:02,864 Speaker 2: The Lizzie Maguire movie was just absolute peak for me. 38 00:02:02,944 --> 00:02:04,584 Speaker 2: All I wanted to do was move to Rome and 39 00:02:04,584 --> 00:02:05,144 Speaker 2: fall in love. 40 00:02:14,544 --> 00:02:16,104 Speaker 3: She's been through this massive career. 41 00:02:16,144 --> 00:02:19,224 Speaker 2: Obviously, we've had Lizzie Maguire, we had the Liz McGuire movie, 42 00:02:19,504 --> 00:02:24,064 Speaker 2: and then she went into releasing music. She had Cinderella's 43 00:02:24,064 --> 00:02:27,504 Speaker 2: Story with Chad Michael Murray. I loved that movie. And 44 00:02:27,664 --> 00:02:33,704 Speaker 2: Raise Your Voice another great cheesy, bad but good movie, 45 00:02:34,264 --> 00:02:35,424 Speaker 2: and then she kind of had a little bit of 46 00:02:35,464 --> 00:02:39,424 Speaker 2: a break, kind of slipped away for a while. Her 47 00:02:39,504 --> 00:02:42,784 Speaker 2: previous album, Breathe and Breathe, out back in twenty fifteen, 48 00:02:42,984 --> 00:02:45,824 Speaker 2: didn't really get a lot of critical acclaim. 49 00:02:45,824 --> 00:02:48,144 Speaker 3: It was kind of penned, fans didn't really like it. 50 00:02:48,584 --> 00:02:52,664 Speaker 2: But that same year, she goes into the series Younger 51 00:02:53,384 --> 00:02:56,704 Speaker 2: with one of my all time favorites, sut and Foster. 52 00:02:57,304 --> 00:02:58,184 Speaker 3: Did you watch Younger? 53 00:02:58,504 --> 00:03:01,064 Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite shows. I've watched it multiple times. 54 00:03:01,104 --> 00:03:03,384 Speaker 1: I've interviewed all the cast except Hillary, which is a 55 00:03:03,424 --> 00:03:05,024 Speaker 1: story I could tell because she and I are feuding 56 00:03:05,344 --> 00:03:07,744 Speaker 1: and I weirdly once flew to New York from Australia 57 00:03:07,904 --> 00:03:09,384 Speaker 1: just for one night to go to one of the 58 00:03:09,384 --> 00:03:11,984 Speaker 1: Younger launch parties where I had like drinks with a 59 00:03:12,024 --> 00:03:12,984 Speaker 1: cast on a rooftop. 60 00:03:13,264 --> 00:03:14,904 Speaker 3: Did you have a drink with Thinkerrella? 61 00:03:15,144 --> 00:03:15,264 Speaker 1: Ah? 62 00:03:15,344 --> 00:03:17,064 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, they are lovely. 63 00:03:17,144 --> 00:03:18,864 Speaker 1: And when I said to them on the red carpet 64 00:03:18,864 --> 00:03:21,224 Speaker 1: that I had just flown in from Australia, they were like, 65 00:03:21,304 --> 00:03:23,144 Speaker 1: high five, what's up Australia And we hugged And I 66 00:03:23,144 --> 00:03:25,424 Speaker 1: thought that was really helpful because I was really jetlagged. 67 00:03:25,624 --> 00:03:27,904 Speaker 3: They are so gorgeous, They're so. 68 00:03:27,944 --> 00:03:29,664 Speaker 1: Lovely, and then we've had them on this spill before 69 00:03:29,704 --> 00:03:32,184 Speaker 1: and they like burst into tears when we were talking 70 00:03:32,224 --> 00:03:34,104 Speaker 1: about the show because they are just so like emotional 71 00:03:34,104 --> 00:03:36,184 Speaker 1: about it. I was like same, So, yeah, it's yeah. 72 00:03:36,224 --> 00:03:38,064 Speaker 1: That show has like been like really a huge part 73 00:03:38,104 --> 00:03:38,584 Speaker 1: of my life. 74 00:03:38,744 --> 00:03:42,464 Speaker 2: I've rewatched it recently and really enjoyed it. It also is 75 00:03:42,544 --> 00:03:45,464 Speaker 2: quite funny though, because the whole premise of the show 76 00:03:45,544 --> 00:03:48,264 Speaker 2: is that like millennials are the hot young people and 77 00:03:48,384 --> 00:03:53,704 Speaker 2: now where Allen? Yeah, so any gen zs who haven't 78 00:03:53,744 --> 00:03:55,704 Speaker 2: watched Younger, you might get a real kick out of it. 79 00:03:55,704 --> 00:03:58,784 Speaker 3: Because we were cool once too. But she did have 80 00:03:58,864 --> 00:04:02,224 Speaker 3: a bit of like a flop era after that, would 81 00:04:02,224 --> 00:04:02,704 Speaker 3: you Yeah. 82 00:04:02,944 --> 00:04:05,064 Speaker 1: Well, it just felt like after Younger that she was 83 00:04:05,184 --> 00:04:09,144 Speaker 1: really set up to go into this big TV stardom 84 00:04:09,144 --> 00:04:11,184 Speaker 1: because Younger had been such a huge hit, ran for 85 00:04:11,224 --> 00:04:13,464 Speaker 1: so many seasons. She was a huge star in that 86 00:04:13,504 --> 00:04:16,064 Speaker 1: and obviously she's got this huge inbuilt fan base, and 87 00:04:16,064 --> 00:04:18,784 Speaker 1: that's why the last episode of Younger is her character 88 00:04:18,864 --> 00:04:20,784 Speaker 1: moving to la because there was supposed to be a 89 00:04:20,864 --> 00:04:22,904 Speaker 1: Kelsey spinoff, so she was supposed to go and have 90 00:04:22,984 --> 00:04:26,304 Speaker 1: her own big series hooked on her, but then the 91 00:04:26,504 --> 00:04:28,544 Speaker 1: details are a bit fuzzy here and like whether that 92 00:04:28,624 --> 00:04:30,824 Speaker 1: show just didn't go ahead or whether the fact that 93 00:04:30,864 --> 00:04:33,704 Speaker 1: she signed on to How I Met Your Father was 94 00:04:34,264 --> 00:04:36,144 Speaker 1: the sort of reason it didn't go ahead. Now, How 95 00:04:36,184 --> 00:04:38,384 Speaker 1: I Met Your Father is a touching on here on 96 00:04:38,424 --> 00:04:40,944 Speaker 1: the spill because it's the only retraction I've had to 97 00:04:40,984 --> 00:04:42,664 Speaker 1: do about a TV show. I don't know if you 98 00:04:42,664 --> 00:04:44,824 Speaker 1: watched it, are you looking like you hate it? 99 00:04:45,144 --> 00:04:47,984 Speaker 2: I watched How I'm at Your Mother, and, funnily enough, 100 00:04:47,984 --> 00:04:49,424 Speaker 2: from rewatching it at the moment as a bit of 101 00:04:49,464 --> 00:04:50,184 Speaker 2: a comfort. 102 00:04:49,864 --> 00:04:50,864 Speaker 1: It's a really good show. 103 00:04:51,064 --> 00:04:53,464 Speaker 2: I mean, it's cheesy and it's silly, but it really 104 00:04:53,504 --> 00:04:55,664 Speaker 2: is one of my comfort shows. Towards the end, I 105 00:04:55,944 --> 00:04:58,824 Speaker 2: do not love the final season. I never watched How 106 00:04:58,864 --> 00:04:59,944 Speaker 2: I Met Your Father because I was. 107 00:04:59,944 --> 00:05:02,464 Speaker 1: Like, no, yes, So How I Met Your Mother is 108 00:05:02,504 --> 00:05:04,144 Speaker 1: I know, like some bits that I have an age well, 109 00:05:04,184 --> 00:05:06,024 Speaker 1: but that's just a lot of TV shows in general. 110 00:05:06,064 --> 00:05:09,584 Speaker 1: But it's really like clever well building, really clever comedy, 111 00:05:09,704 --> 00:05:12,704 Speaker 1: Like the rieting is quite specific and it's all pulled 112 00:05:12,744 --> 00:05:14,984 Speaker 1: off because of those characters, Like I think that setting 113 00:05:15,024 --> 00:05:18,504 Speaker 1: wouldn't work without all those kind of factors. So when 114 00:05:18,544 --> 00:05:19,984 Speaker 1: How I Met your Father came out, I was a 115 00:05:20,024 --> 00:05:22,144 Speaker 1: bit like, I don't know if I was the same. 116 00:05:22,184 --> 00:05:23,304 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if I love this. 117 00:05:23,584 --> 00:05:25,864 Speaker 1: But then I really love Hillary Duff and there was 118 00:05:25,904 --> 00:05:28,144 Speaker 1: a few other actors in the mix from TV shows 119 00:05:28,184 --> 00:05:29,304 Speaker 1: I love. So I gave it a go and I 120 00:05:29,344 --> 00:05:30,944 Speaker 1: watched the first episode and it. 121 00:05:30,944 --> 00:05:31,704 Speaker 3: Was quite fun. 122 00:05:31,744 --> 00:05:33,424 Speaker 1: It was also just quite fun to have it like 123 00:05:33,464 --> 00:05:35,944 Speaker 1: a new comedy of like Hillary Duff and her friends 124 00:05:35,944 --> 00:05:38,024 Speaker 1: being single and having fun in New York. Like I 125 00:05:38,024 --> 00:05:40,544 Speaker 1: feel like comedies have forgotten that that's what we want 126 00:05:40,584 --> 00:05:42,344 Speaker 1: to watch a lot of the time. So I watched 127 00:05:42,384 --> 00:05:44,704 Speaker 1: the first episode, gave it a rave review, and then 128 00:05:44,744 --> 00:05:47,024 Speaker 1: I watched the rest of the season after it came out. 129 00:05:47,104 --> 00:05:49,944 Speaker 1: It was terrible, and I don't say that lightly. It 130 00:05:49,984 --> 00:05:52,384 Speaker 1: was just no thought had been put into the script. 131 00:05:52,584 --> 00:05:55,024 Speaker 1: There was a whole episode just on Hillary Duff's character 132 00:05:55,464 --> 00:05:58,584 Speaker 1: talking about how what she shows on social media and 133 00:05:58,624 --> 00:06:00,504 Speaker 1: what her real life is like am not the same thing. 134 00:06:00,584 --> 00:06:02,064 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is not the comedy I'm 135 00:06:02,064 --> 00:06:04,864 Speaker 1: looking for. So that show got canceled, and then also 136 00:06:05,024 --> 00:06:08,984 Speaker 1: she was rebooting Lizzie maguire, yes, and so they had 137 00:06:09,024 --> 00:06:11,344 Speaker 1: shot the first episode. It was also to be this 138 00:06:11,384 --> 00:06:13,704 Speaker 1: big new series, but then she and the studio had 139 00:06:13,744 --> 00:06:17,464 Speaker 1: a disagreement over what the show should be, and they 140 00:06:17,504 --> 00:06:19,544 Speaker 1: own the character, so it couldn't go ahead. So she 141 00:06:19,584 --> 00:06:21,784 Speaker 1: wanted it to be like, Lizzie's in her thirties. Now, 142 00:06:22,144 --> 00:06:24,184 Speaker 1: she's a bit of a mess, she's hooking up lots 143 00:06:24,184 --> 00:06:26,224 Speaker 1: of people. She's basically just being a normal woman in 144 00:06:26,264 --> 00:06:28,744 Speaker 1: her thirties. But the studio wanted it to be like, 145 00:06:28,824 --> 00:06:32,544 Speaker 1: it's kid friendly, it's fun, and so that unaired pilot 146 00:06:32,624 --> 00:06:34,384 Speaker 1: is somewhere out in the world and we'll never see it. 147 00:06:34,464 --> 00:06:36,944 Speaker 2: I know it's And it's interesting as well, because for 148 00:06:37,064 --> 00:06:40,944 Speaker 2: a Disney show like that, Lizzie Maguire was so wholesome 149 00:06:41,144 --> 00:06:44,344 Speaker 2: and kind of to change that and make it something 150 00:06:44,344 --> 00:06:47,104 Speaker 2: that's a bit grittier and more realistic for a woman 151 00:06:47,144 --> 00:06:51,584 Speaker 2: in her thirties, that's going to be a real creative difference, 152 00:06:51,664 --> 00:06:53,984 Speaker 2: you know. And yeah, how I'm make your father. I 153 00:06:54,104 --> 00:06:56,784 Speaker 2: just basically refused to watch it because I do really 154 00:06:56,824 --> 00:06:57,544 Speaker 2: like I wouldn't. 155 00:06:57,544 --> 00:06:59,664 Speaker 1: I would just go and rewatch her movies or just 156 00:07:00,464 --> 00:07:02,304 Speaker 1: listen to the new music she's putting out because I 157 00:07:02,344 --> 00:07:04,024 Speaker 1: guess also like she's a mom of four now, she's 158 00:07:04,064 --> 00:07:06,904 Speaker 1: been busy doing that once she and her husband got 159 00:07:06,904 --> 00:07:08,904 Speaker 1: married and had their three daughters, and their names like 160 00:07:09,224 --> 00:07:12,024 Speaker 1: may Banks and Towns, which I just love is like 161 00:07:12,064 --> 00:07:14,824 Speaker 1: celebrity baby memes. So I guess she's been busy doing that. 162 00:07:14,904 --> 00:07:16,824 Speaker 1: And now the fact that she's coming out with new music, 163 00:07:17,304 --> 00:07:19,744 Speaker 1: hopefully some movie roles, I just feel like we're ready 164 00:07:19,744 --> 00:07:22,304 Speaker 1: for the comeback of Hillary stuff. Not that she ever 165 00:07:22,384 --> 00:07:24,584 Speaker 1: super went away, but I just feel like after all 166 00:07:24,584 --> 00:07:28,104 Speaker 1: those different TV projects stalled, canceled, or were not allowed 167 00:07:28,104 --> 00:07:30,704 Speaker 1: to be aired, she was kind of in that faltering moment, 168 00:07:30,704 --> 00:07:32,224 Speaker 1: and now it's like a good time for a comeback. 169 00:07:32,264 --> 00:07:34,824 Speaker 2: And it looks like she will be writing some of 170 00:07:34,824 --> 00:07:37,984 Speaker 2: the songs with Matthew Comer, who is also a songwriter 171 00:07:38,104 --> 00:07:41,024 Speaker 2: and musician, so we might get some collabs there, but 172 00:07:41,104 --> 00:07:44,464 Speaker 2: we don't have a release date yet, but very excited 173 00:07:44,504 --> 00:07:49,864 Speaker 2: about it. Bana Nana Okay, So young Hollywood slash mid thirties. 174 00:07:49,904 --> 00:07:53,224 Speaker 2: Hollywood is in this serious dating frenzy right now. Everybody's 175 00:07:53,264 --> 00:07:57,624 Speaker 2: dating everybody. There's so many rumors about new relationships and 176 00:07:58,024 --> 00:08:00,464 Speaker 2: it is so confusing it is like a web, and 177 00:08:00,504 --> 00:08:02,424 Speaker 2: I feel like I need a whiteboard and a text 178 00:08:03,264 --> 00:08:06,264 Speaker 2: to start making all the connections. So we're going to 179 00:08:06,344 --> 00:08:09,664 Speaker 2: go through a few of them today and just clarify 180 00:08:10,144 --> 00:08:12,264 Speaker 2: who who's dating who, Yes. 181 00:08:12,104 --> 00:08:14,624 Speaker 1: Because we've had some new sightings recently, some new sightings 182 00:08:14,664 --> 00:08:16,464 Speaker 1: on the ground and like people who are watching this 183 00:08:16,584 --> 00:08:19,584 Speaker 1: and living vicariously through all these youngish some of there 184 00:08:19,584 --> 00:08:22,424 Speaker 1: in their late thirties, young hot people in Hollywood, just 185 00:08:22,424 --> 00:08:24,624 Speaker 1: feeling really nervous and scared about where the state of 186 00:08:24,664 --> 00:08:27,064 Speaker 1: everything is. So we're going to break that down. 187 00:08:27,344 --> 00:08:31,104 Speaker 2: So I'm going to start with the most recent sighting 188 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:35,824 Speaker 2: is Austin Butler and Radikowski in New York having dinner together, 189 00:08:36,024 --> 00:08:37,184 Speaker 2: sort of cozying up. 190 00:08:37,264 --> 00:08:38,064 Speaker 3: Earlier this week. 191 00:08:38,824 --> 00:08:43,704 Speaker 2: M Rader has previously been linked to Harry Styles they 192 00:08:43,864 --> 00:08:46,024 Speaker 2: like macked out in Tokyo years ago. 193 00:08:45,984 --> 00:08:47,424 Speaker 3: Not really that important. 194 00:08:47,904 --> 00:08:51,904 Speaker 2: But Austin Butler, on the other hand, was recently connected 195 00:08:51,944 --> 00:08:55,104 Speaker 2: to Zoe Kravitzah because they did. 196 00:08:54,984 --> 00:08:55,624 Speaker 3: A movie together. 197 00:08:55,904 --> 00:08:58,544 Speaker 1: Yes, so that's our first line. So when our first 198 00:08:58,584 --> 00:09:00,504 Speaker 1: line in this imaginary chart that we've got up in 199 00:09:00,504 --> 00:09:03,664 Speaker 1: front of us is that Austin and Zoe were roomen 200 00:09:03,744 --> 00:09:05,504 Speaker 1: to be hooking up for months and months, and not 201 00:09:05,584 --> 00:09:07,344 Speaker 1: just because of all the PAT photos that came out 202 00:09:07,344 --> 00:09:09,344 Speaker 1: from the set where they're hugging and making out, because 203 00:09:09,344 --> 00:09:11,824 Speaker 1: they were acting all the PAT photos of them like 204 00:09:12,224 --> 00:09:14,744 Speaker 1: in bars and like going to theaters and like lobbies 205 00:09:14,784 --> 00:09:16,104 Speaker 1: and stuff like that where it looked like they were 206 00:09:16,144 --> 00:09:19,784 Speaker 1: hugging and being really cozy. And then once she was 207 00:09:20,184 --> 00:09:22,944 Speaker 1: started being linked to Harry Styles, which is our other line, 208 00:09:23,544 --> 00:09:26,104 Speaker 1: then he started being photographed with em Rata. And it's 209 00:09:26,144 --> 00:09:28,384 Speaker 1: quite funny to be watching like all the Austin and 210 00:09:28,424 --> 00:09:31,224 Speaker 1: em Rada photos and videos and stuff come out of 211 00:09:31,264 --> 00:09:34,264 Speaker 1: their one date that there's like it's been documented more 212 00:09:34,304 --> 00:09:37,264 Speaker 1: than like a big world news event, because people started 213 00:09:37,264 --> 00:09:40,224 Speaker 1: really fixating on whether or not they had had dinner, 214 00:09:40,504 --> 00:09:42,664 Speaker 1: which is such a weird thing because there's some photos 215 00:09:42,744 --> 00:09:45,104 Speaker 1: where the table is clean, and there's some photos with 216 00:09:45,184 --> 00:09:48,104 Speaker 1: the table is full of dishes, and some fans were like, 217 00:09:48,264 --> 00:09:50,184 Speaker 1: they're only hooked up for a drink, and someone's like, no, 218 00:09:50,224 --> 00:09:51,904 Speaker 1: they had dinner, and then they interview one of the 219 00:09:51,904 --> 00:09:54,544 Speaker 1: servers at the restaurant. The server said they were having 220 00:09:54,584 --> 00:09:56,544 Speaker 1: dinner and they didn't. It became this whole kind of 221 00:09:56,584 --> 00:10:01,304 Speaker 1: like fandom throwdown over what their date had actually entailed, 222 00:10:01,384 --> 00:10:03,224 Speaker 1: even though there's a lot of photos of them like 223 00:10:03,264 --> 00:10:05,704 Speaker 1: hugging and stuff, but no kissing photos at this time. 224 00:10:05,544 --> 00:10:09,304 Speaker 2: And everything is very grainy, like they're pretty grainy images. 225 00:10:09,624 --> 00:10:11,064 Speaker 3: So that's our one. 226 00:10:11,384 --> 00:10:14,264 Speaker 2: So Austin m Rader, and then if we just go 227 00:10:14,464 --> 00:10:18,904 Speaker 2: back to Zoe Kravitz, who is now linked to Harry styles, 228 00:10:18,944 --> 00:10:22,104 Speaker 2: that looks like it's pretty promising as a relationship. 229 00:10:22,584 --> 00:10:25,104 Speaker 1: Yes, And also what you're saying about the link of 230 00:10:25,184 --> 00:10:28,224 Speaker 1: Harry to m Rada, Yeah, the funny thing about that 231 00:10:28,384 --> 00:10:30,024 Speaker 1: is that that is one of the few times I 232 00:10:30,064 --> 00:10:32,704 Speaker 1: feel like they were kissing for the cameras, because I know, 233 00:10:32,744 --> 00:10:35,984 Speaker 1: if you've seen those paparazzi videos of them kissing, they 234 00:10:36,024 --> 00:10:38,144 Speaker 1: didn't have to do it in the place they did it. 235 00:10:38,144 --> 00:10:40,544 Speaker 1: They're in a car and they're kissing in the car 236 00:10:41,024 --> 00:10:42,664 Speaker 1: you can kind of see through the window, and then 237 00:10:42,704 --> 00:10:44,704 Speaker 1: the window thing goes up, and then they get out 238 00:10:44,744 --> 00:10:46,984 Speaker 1: of the car and they walk into the hotel and 239 00:10:46,984 --> 00:10:48,904 Speaker 1: then they walk back out and they start kissing and 240 00:10:48,944 --> 00:10:50,864 Speaker 1: then they walk back in. So I was like, was 241 00:10:50,864 --> 00:10:52,824 Speaker 1: our walk out for our benefit? I mean, no shade 242 00:10:52,824 --> 00:10:54,744 Speaker 1: to that. If I was kissing Harry Styles in the street. 243 00:10:54,744 --> 00:10:56,184 Speaker 1: I would want someone to get a photo of that. 244 00:10:56,464 --> 00:10:58,144 Speaker 1: And we know that em Rader like loves a little 245 00:10:58,184 --> 00:11:00,864 Speaker 1: bit of shock value with her relationships. Like she's an 246 00:11:00,904 --> 00:11:04,464 Speaker 1: online girl, she knows how to create a conversation. But yeah, 247 00:11:04,544 --> 00:11:06,264 Speaker 1: that video just lives rent free in my head. 248 00:11:06,344 --> 00:11:09,904 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was probably just a fun little pash Okay. 249 00:11:10,064 --> 00:11:14,344 Speaker 2: So now we're going back from Austin Butler, We're going 250 00:11:14,384 --> 00:11:20,304 Speaker 2: to move to Olivia Jade Journally, Olivia Jade was linked 251 00:11:20,344 --> 00:11:22,544 Speaker 2: to Jacob Elordi for three years. They were kind of 252 00:11:22,544 --> 00:11:25,104 Speaker 2: on and off for a while. They recently saw each 253 00:11:25,104 --> 00:11:29,144 Speaker 2: other at the Toronto International Film Festival where there was 254 00:11:29,184 --> 00:11:31,464 Speaker 2: this big story about Jacob helping her with her train 255 00:11:31,584 --> 00:11:34,704 Speaker 2: and it was all very sweet. They're not together, but 256 00:11:35,224 --> 00:11:38,384 Speaker 2: now it's been said that Olivia Jade is connected to 257 00:11:38,544 --> 00:11:40,184 Speaker 2: Glenn Powell. 258 00:11:40,264 --> 00:11:43,224 Speaker 1: I think Jacob and Olivia are still together. I mean 259 00:11:43,264 --> 00:11:46,784 Speaker 1: they are one of the great kind of young Hollywood 260 00:11:46,904 --> 00:11:51,544 Speaker 1: romances of our time. After Jacob Oerlordie broke up with Zendaya, 261 00:11:51,624 --> 00:11:53,704 Speaker 1: and there was so much hatred for him because there 262 00:11:53,704 --> 00:11:56,864 Speaker 1: were all these allegations that he cheated on Zendea, potentially 263 00:11:56,864 --> 00:11:59,104 Speaker 1: on her birthday. That's never been proven, but it would 264 00:11:59,184 --> 00:12:00,904 Speaker 1: just make a really good Tailor Swift song if that 265 00:12:01,024 --> 00:12:04,224 Speaker 1: was true. And then he and Olivia Jade have been 266 00:12:04,664 --> 00:12:08,104 Speaker 1: like pretty like he's always pictured with her family on holidays. 267 00:12:08,144 --> 00:12:11,384 Speaker 1: They're like rumors they're living together. They like don't mention 268 00:12:11,464 --> 00:12:13,584 Speaker 1: each other in public at all, even though they're spotted 269 00:12:13,584 --> 00:12:16,464 Speaker 1: together all the time. And because she's an influencer, she's 270 00:12:16,464 --> 00:12:19,664 Speaker 1: doing like daily vlogs, daily get Ready with Me daily, 271 00:12:19,704 --> 00:12:21,944 Speaker 1: like Here's what I'm wearing, So you have this insight 272 00:12:21,984 --> 00:12:24,264 Speaker 1: into every corner of her life. 273 00:12:24,344 --> 00:12:26,224 Speaker 3: And she is a huge. 274 00:12:25,864 --> 00:12:28,824 Speaker 1: Online audience, like absolutely crazy. That's why it was such 275 00:12:28,824 --> 00:12:30,624 Speaker 1: a big deal when her mum, who is the Full 276 00:12:30,624 --> 00:12:33,864 Speaker 1: House star Laurie Laughlin, went to jail for she was 277 00:12:33,904 --> 00:12:36,384 Speaker 1: part of that college admission stamp And the worst part 278 00:12:36,384 --> 00:12:38,504 Speaker 1: of that is that when her mum went to jail 279 00:12:38,544 --> 00:12:41,104 Speaker 1: for getting her to college, Olivia Jade had done a 280 00:12:41,184 --> 00:12:43,224 Speaker 1: video saying that she didn't really want to go to 281 00:12:43,264 --> 00:12:46,824 Speaker 1: college and she knew, and she's doing it like a 282 00:12:46,904 --> 00:12:49,544 Speaker 1: vlog about like setting up her dorm room and she 283 00:12:49,664 --> 00:12:50,664 Speaker 1: was like, I'm going. 284 00:12:50,504 --> 00:12:52,104 Speaker 3: To a really good school and I'm really lucky. 285 00:12:52,104 --> 00:12:53,384 Speaker 1: But I don't really want to go. I just want 286 00:12:53,424 --> 00:12:54,664 Speaker 1: to be doing this, Like she just wants to be 287 00:12:54,744 --> 00:12:56,384 Speaker 1: an influence side her parents, like you have to go 288 00:12:56,424 --> 00:12:58,544 Speaker 1: to college and I went to jail for it. Anyway, 289 00:12:58,584 --> 00:13:00,224 Speaker 1: the part of that is that she lives her whole 290 00:13:00,264 --> 00:13:03,184 Speaker 1: life online, but Jacob Alordie is never seen, to the 291 00:13:03,224 --> 00:13:06,664 Speaker 1: point now where her comments are absolutely flooded every time 292 00:13:06,744 --> 00:13:09,224 Speaker 1: she posts the video. Everyone just goes show him, show him, 293 00:13:09,304 --> 00:13:11,744 Speaker 1: show him, show him. To talking about Jacob and so 294 00:13:11,904 --> 00:13:15,224 Speaker 1: recently came out they had potentially broken up, but I 295 00:13:15,304 --> 00:13:18,744 Speaker 1: still think they're together. And I think this TikTok have 296 00:13:18,824 --> 00:13:20,744 Speaker 1: you I'm getting really in the trenches now, Like I 297 00:13:21,144 --> 00:13:23,464 Speaker 1: know how stupid this sounds. Did you see the TikTok 298 00:13:23,504 --> 00:13:27,784 Speaker 1: with romy Mars? No, so this is whole I actually am. 299 00:13:27,664 --> 00:13:29,744 Speaker 3: So sad, like really deep. 300 00:13:30,144 --> 00:13:32,144 Speaker 1: It's like all over everyone's TikTok and stuff like that. 301 00:13:32,184 --> 00:13:33,704 Speaker 1: But I just know I sound like a trash him 302 00:13:33,744 --> 00:13:35,104 Speaker 1: bringing it up. But anyway, that's a way here for 303 00:13:35,904 --> 00:13:38,864 Speaker 1: so romy Mars is the daughter of Sofia Copela, so 304 00:13:39,624 --> 00:13:42,144 Speaker 1: involved in this whole story. Yeah, yeah, we need a 305 00:13:42,144 --> 00:13:44,104 Speaker 1: white board, No, I know, I wish we had LENI 306 00:13:44,224 --> 00:13:46,344 Speaker 1: like red strings and stuff. I know, I never thought 307 00:13:46,344 --> 00:13:50,064 Speaker 1: we're talking about like Zoe Kravitz pashing, Austin pashing, and 308 00:13:50,104 --> 00:13:51,464 Speaker 1: then Sofia Copela's involved. 309 00:13:51,504 --> 00:13:53,744 Speaker 3: I have another connection as well, So keep going. 310 00:13:53,944 --> 00:13:57,984 Speaker 1: So romy Mars is Sofia Coppola's daughter. Became famous many 311 00:13:58,064 --> 00:14:00,424 Speaker 1: years ago when she went rogue online talking about her 312 00:14:00,464 --> 00:14:03,664 Speaker 1: parents grounding her and her trying to like charter a 313 00:14:03,704 --> 00:14:06,864 Speaker 1: private helicopter and all of this stuff. Since then, she's 314 00:14:06,904 --> 00:14:09,304 Speaker 1: become a musician and she's kind of like the big 315 00:14:09,344 --> 00:14:12,344 Speaker 1: new rising pop girl of the moment. And she and 316 00:14:12,424 --> 00:14:15,024 Speaker 1: Jacob of Lordie recently did a TikTok dance together, like 317 00:14:15,064 --> 00:14:17,224 Speaker 1: she pulled him into the dance. They did the dance together, 318 00:14:17,704 --> 00:14:20,744 Speaker 1: and everyone thought they were dating. And also everyone was like, 319 00:14:20,864 --> 00:14:22,864 Speaker 1: is this like a slap in the face to Olivia 320 00:14:22,944 --> 00:14:26,024 Speaker 1: Jade of Jacob Lordy being like, well, you broke up 321 00:14:26,024 --> 00:14:28,064 Speaker 1: with me. Now I'm gonna go and like make it 322 00:14:28,104 --> 00:14:30,584 Speaker 1: look like I'm dating this young pop girl. And then 323 00:14:30,664 --> 00:14:33,304 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Olivia Jade is at the premiere 324 00:14:33,344 --> 00:14:35,864 Speaker 1: of his Frankenstein movie and she walked in front of 325 00:14:35,864 --> 00:14:39,224 Speaker 1: everyone and she waved and smiled and it's the first 326 00:14:39,224 --> 00:14:42,184 Speaker 1: time there's ever been like a full professional link between them. 327 00:14:42,224 --> 00:14:45,144 Speaker 1: So people think she was coming into like shut down 328 00:14:45,144 --> 00:14:45,824 Speaker 1: those rumors. 329 00:14:45,944 --> 00:14:48,744 Speaker 3: But wasn't it after that she was spotted with Glen 330 00:14:48,744 --> 00:14:49,664 Speaker 3: Powell having dinner. 331 00:14:49,984 --> 00:14:53,904 Speaker 1: Now happened before before. Yeah, so there's a moment. So 332 00:14:53,944 --> 00:14:58,064 Speaker 1: it's like Olivia and Jacob potentially break up. She has 333 00:14:58,104 --> 00:15:01,424 Speaker 1: dinner with Glen Powell, he does a TikTok with romy Mars. 334 00:15:01,744 --> 00:15:04,504 Speaker 1: She goes to his film premiere for the biggest film 335 00:15:04,584 --> 00:15:08,264 Speaker 1: of his career. They are seemingly back together. Glen Powell 336 00:15:08,304 --> 00:15:11,224 Speaker 1: is out here alone by himself talking about how his 337 00:15:11,344 --> 00:15:14,944 Speaker 1: ex girlfriend made up things about the Sydney Sweeney breakup. 338 00:15:14,944 --> 00:15:15,824 Speaker 1: There's a lot happening. 339 00:15:15,904 --> 00:15:20,144 Speaker 2: Okay, So Jacob Elortie, let's just say he is single. 340 00:15:20,464 --> 00:15:25,344 Speaker 2: Jacob Belordi also dated Kaya Goerber, Yes, and so did 341 00:15:25,424 --> 00:15:26,024 Speaker 2: Ostin Butler. 342 00:15:26,224 --> 00:15:29,224 Speaker 1: Yes. Kira and Austin for like many many years. People 343 00:15:29,264 --> 00:15:31,584 Speaker 1: thought they were like definitely getting get married or secretly 344 00:15:31,584 --> 00:15:32,424 Speaker 1: engaged at least. 345 00:15:32,464 --> 00:15:35,184 Speaker 2: So yeah, the Austin Butler and Kaya Goerber twenty one 346 00:15:35,184 --> 00:15:38,544 Speaker 2: to twenty three. She only dated Jacob Beloti for about 347 00:15:38,544 --> 00:15:41,504 Speaker 2: a year. KaiA Goerber is now with Lewis Pullman, so 348 00:15:41,544 --> 00:15:45,584 Speaker 2: she can go out now. But like, my head hurts. 349 00:15:45,824 --> 00:15:48,704 Speaker 1: It's just kind of interesting because the thing is a 350 00:15:48,744 --> 00:15:50,944 Speaker 1: lot of this is being done kind of for the 351 00:15:50,984 --> 00:15:55,064 Speaker 1: benefit of fans. It's either little dots of pr romances, 352 00:15:55,144 --> 00:15:58,344 Speaker 1: like with Zoe and Austin or with Harry Styles and 353 00:15:58,424 --> 00:16:02,584 Speaker 1: Zoe Kravitz. They have just been seen so much together 354 00:16:02,664 --> 00:16:05,824 Speaker 1: recently that people are almost already within a span of 355 00:16:05,864 --> 00:16:08,144 Speaker 1: a week, have lost interest in their romance. And I 356 00:16:08,224 --> 00:16:10,984 Speaker 1: almost think they potentially did that on purpose, that they 357 00:16:11,064 --> 00:16:13,384 Speaker 1: just hit us with so many coffee walks, they're hugging 358 00:16:13,384 --> 00:16:16,144 Speaker 1: in public, they're walking around arm in arm, and every 359 00:16:16,224 --> 00:16:18,264 Speaker 1: day you're seeing the same pictures and they're kind of 360 00:16:18,304 --> 00:16:21,064 Speaker 1: in the same outfits. It's just like they've diluted the 361 00:16:21,104 --> 00:16:24,624 Speaker 1: story themselves really quickly so that they can just now 362 00:16:24,664 --> 00:16:27,224 Speaker 1: go about their lives and they'll still be photographed, but 363 00:16:27,264 --> 00:16:30,264 Speaker 1: not for the intensity if people were trying to prove 364 00:16:30,304 --> 00:16:30,984 Speaker 1: they were together. 365 00:16:31,024 --> 00:16:35,144 Speaker 2: I think, Okay, I feel like Austin Butler and Glen 366 00:16:35,144 --> 00:16:37,384 Speaker 2: Powell are the same person, Like they give me the 367 00:16:37,464 --> 00:16:40,464 Speaker 2: same energy, like they in terms of like I would 368 00:16:40,504 --> 00:16:43,144 Speaker 2: very easily get them confused if I had face blindness. 369 00:16:43,304 --> 00:16:45,304 Speaker 1: That's the single A lot of these people all just 370 00:16:45,344 --> 00:16:48,424 Speaker 1: look exactly the same. So when photos of Glenn Powell 371 00:16:48,424 --> 00:16:50,704 Speaker 1: and Sydney Sweeney came out, and then photos of Glenn 372 00:16:50,744 --> 00:16:53,224 Speaker 1: and Olivia j come out, people were like, I'm sorry, 373 00:16:53,264 --> 00:16:56,384 Speaker 1: is that not just the same person, And to an extent, yes, 374 00:16:57,024 --> 00:16:59,064 Speaker 1: it's kind of all just missmashed in there. But I 375 00:16:59,064 --> 00:17:01,304 Speaker 1: think that like this is like almost saying younger Hollywood. 376 00:17:01,304 --> 00:17:03,904 Speaker 1: It's kind of like all these celebs under forty, this 377 00:17:04,064 --> 00:17:06,544 Speaker 1: is kind of their new way of like either putting 378 00:17:06,744 --> 00:17:09,144 Speaker 1: a relationship in the public eye, like we go for 379 00:17:09,184 --> 00:17:12,344 Speaker 1: a coffee walk, whereas the more old school thing would 380 00:17:12,384 --> 00:17:14,424 Speaker 1: be to do like a full red carpet walk, or 381 00:17:14,464 --> 00:17:16,944 Speaker 1: even like an old school like like Jennifer Aniston this 382 00:17:16,984 --> 00:17:20,064 Speaker 1: week did her soft launch officially of her new boyfriend, 383 00:17:20,584 --> 00:17:23,224 Speaker 1: but she did it the really really old school way 384 00:17:23,504 --> 00:17:25,544 Speaker 1: of she did a carousel of picks and just put 385 00:17:25,624 --> 00:17:27,184 Speaker 1: the back of his head in one photo. 386 00:17:27,344 --> 00:17:31,224 Speaker 3: Oh subtle, a timeless, very very soft launch. 387 00:17:31,624 --> 00:17:34,144 Speaker 1: If they were because Jennifernisin's in their fifties now, if 388 00:17:34,184 --> 00:17:36,224 Speaker 1: they were like in their twenties or thirties, they would 389 00:17:36,264 --> 00:17:39,544 Speaker 1: have done like a papped coffee walk together as the 390 00:17:39,544 --> 00:17:41,144 Speaker 1: way to launch their relationship. 391 00:17:41,224 --> 00:17:44,584 Speaker 2: Okay, but I don't feel like any of these one 392 00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:48,504 Speaker 2: hundred percent confirmed. And that's why it's driving everyone mad. 393 00:17:48,584 --> 00:17:51,824 Speaker 2: Because every day we get this new couple that's linked 394 00:17:51,864 --> 00:17:54,064 Speaker 2: to someone else who's also dated this person and this 395 00:17:54,064 --> 00:17:57,784 Speaker 2: person and this person. It's like the most incestuous crazy 396 00:17:58,344 --> 00:18:00,864 Speaker 2: It's like a big circle of dating. 397 00:18:01,504 --> 00:18:03,264 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I also think, like people keep saying, like, 398 00:18:03,304 --> 00:18:05,344 Speaker 1: oh my god, Zoe Kravitz is hooking out with everyone. 399 00:18:05,384 --> 00:18:07,224 Speaker 1: I'm like, if one of your friends was like, oh, 400 00:18:07,264 --> 00:18:09,304 Speaker 1: I'm working with the Sky and we went on two dates. 401 00:18:09,304 --> 00:18:11,424 Speaker 1: That's like her and Austin, but then I've been talking 402 00:18:11,464 --> 00:18:14,304 Speaker 1: to this other guy. Also, apparently Harry was in like 403 00:18:14,504 --> 00:18:17,704 Speaker 1: a relationship, but he and his girlfriend had an open relationship. 404 00:18:17,984 --> 00:18:21,784 Speaker 1: This is all just absolutely terrible gossip. But they were 405 00:18:21,784 --> 00:18:24,384 Speaker 1: an open relationship, and then he and Zoe started hooking up. 406 00:18:24,544 --> 00:18:27,104 Speaker 1: But if your friend said to you, like, I'm gone 407 00:18:27,104 --> 00:18:28,624 Speaker 1: on a date with like two dates with a guy 408 00:18:28,624 --> 00:18:30,504 Speaker 1: from work that I quite like, but I've been talking 409 00:18:30,544 --> 00:18:32,504 Speaker 1: to this other guy. We have heaps of mutual friends. 410 00:18:32,584 --> 00:18:34,304 Speaker 1: Is how these people know which o they have mutual friends? 411 00:18:34,384 --> 00:18:37,304 Speaker 1: And now we're dating. That would sound so normal because 412 00:18:37,304 --> 00:18:38,264 Speaker 1: they're all being papped. 413 00:18:38,704 --> 00:18:41,904 Speaker 2: It's absolutely no judgment here, a past here, Like we're 414 00:18:41,904 --> 00:18:44,064 Speaker 2: not saying that they're all in full relationships. It's just 415 00:18:44,104 --> 00:18:47,064 Speaker 2: so funny because they're all such public figures. 416 00:18:47,704 --> 00:18:48,504 Speaker 3: We see it all. 417 00:18:48,544 --> 00:18:52,264 Speaker 2: We see that, and who knows, maybe that Olivia Jade 418 00:18:52,344 --> 00:18:56,664 Speaker 2: Glenn Powell date quote unquote date was like an absolute disaster, 419 00:18:57,264 --> 00:19:00,224 Speaker 2: and Olivia Jade walked away texting her friends being like, 420 00:19:00,264 --> 00:19:02,544 Speaker 2: oh my god, he couldn't stop talking about. 421 00:19:02,504 --> 00:19:05,824 Speaker 1: I'm going to take that tall man back. I think that. 422 00:19:05,944 --> 00:19:07,944 Speaker 1: I think the only the only people who were definitely 423 00:19:08,024 --> 00:19:12,744 Speaker 1: together is Zoe Kravitz and Styles. Either they're together or 424 00:19:12,744 --> 00:19:15,384 Speaker 1: they're putting on the biggest show, which seems crazy for 425 00:19:15,424 --> 00:19:17,624 Speaker 1: both of them, Like that's not just a publicity stunt 426 00:19:17,664 --> 00:19:20,064 Speaker 1: to commit to doing a coffee walk for the paparazzi 427 00:19:20,144 --> 00:19:22,904 Speaker 1: every single day for it. We're on week two of 428 00:19:22,904 --> 00:19:25,624 Speaker 1: this now. And the other couple I think are definitely together, 429 00:19:25,664 --> 00:19:27,504 Speaker 1: even though they'll never say it out loud a Jacob 430 00:19:27,544 --> 00:19:31,344 Speaker 1: Elodie and Olivia Jade just because her going to the 431 00:19:31,384 --> 00:19:34,464 Speaker 1: biggest like premiere of his career and allowing herself to 432 00:19:34,504 --> 00:19:36,704 Speaker 1: be photographed with him in a way she never has before. 433 00:19:36,984 --> 00:19:39,024 Speaker 1: That's a couple shit finem crazy kids. 434 00:19:39,184 --> 00:19:40,344 Speaker 3: I'm not convinced on that one. 435 00:19:40,504 --> 00:19:42,384 Speaker 2: I think we're gonna have to do like a video 436 00:19:42,504 --> 00:19:46,384 Speaker 2: with some like links and market and maybe we can 437 00:19:46,424 --> 00:19:47,664 Speaker 2: like pop it up on our socials. 438 00:19:47,984 --> 00:19:50,144 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you a little where everyone's at. I mean, 439 00:19:50,144 --> 00:19:52,104 Speaker 1: while also Sidney Sweeney keeps going through on the mix 440 00:19:52,104 --> 00:19:54,464 Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm just over here making my movie 441 00:19:54,504 --> 00:19:56,304 Speaker 1: that might be win me in Oscar and she's like 442 00:19:56,344 --> 00:19:58,744 Speaker 1: cooking up with Scooter Braun. And but you know, because 443 00:19:58,744 --> 00:20:00,384 Speaker 1: all those blonde women are like in the mix with 444 00:20:00,424 --> 00:20:03,024 Speaker 1: these men, people think she's there too. But that's where 445 00:20:03,064 --> 00:20:05,544 Speaker 1: we're at. I hope everyone feels smarter after that segment, 446 00:20:05,784 --> 00:20:07,024 Speaker 1: or your brain might hurt. 447 00:20:07,184 --> 00:20:09,104 Speaker 3: Yeah. 448 00:20:09,144 --> 00:20:11,184 Speaker 1: Now it brings me no joy to say this next 449 00:20:11,184 --> 00:20:14,424 Speaker 1: thing because I'm a huge fan girl of so many 450 00:20:14,424 --> 00:20:17,224 Speaker 1: different things, but in particular TV shows. It is the 451 00:20:17,264 --> 00:20:20,904 Speaker 1: basis of my whole life career and the relationship I 452 00:20:20,944 --> 00:20:23,184 Speaker 1: have with my family, my friends. So I say this 453 00:20:23,304 --> 00:20:26,344 Speaker 1: with love and disappointment in my heart that fandoms at 454 00:20:26,384 --> 00:20:27,704 Speaker 1: the moment have gone too far. 455 00:20:28,344 --> 00:20:31,864 Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree with you, and I think 456 00:20:31,904 --> 00:20:35,264 Speaker 2: there's a very big difference between positive fandom and negative fandom, 457 00:20:35,304 --> 00:20:38,184 Speaker 2: and unfortunately there is a side of the Internet known 458 00:20:38,184 --> 00:20:41,944 Speaker 2: as the trolls who take that fandom to a level 459 00:20:42,104 --> 00:20:46,064 Speaker 2: that is really really toxic. 460 00:20:46,384 --> 00:20:48,544 Speaker 1: Yes, and obviously again this isn't a new thing. It's 461 00:20:48,544 --> 00:20:50,264 Speaker 1: been happening for a long time. But I just think 462 00:20:50,304 --> 00:20:53,584 Speaker 1: with the way people can like mount full hate campaigns 463 00:20:53,624 --> 00:20:57,424 Speaker 1: now on TikTok or different social platforms and mainstream media 464 00:20:57,464 --> 00:20:59,784 Speaker 1: picks it up, but also how they're bringing it into 465 00:20:59,904 --> 00:21:02,664 Speaker 1: real life in terms of like stars getting like booed 466 00:21:02,704 --> 00:21:04,904 Speaker 1: at appearances or shout out on the street. It's getting 467 00:21:04,984 --> 00:21:07,424 Speaker 1: very intense out there. So a few stars of some 468 00:21:07,504 --> 00:21:10,584 Speaker 1: really big TV shows have spoken out about it, and 469 00:21:10,624 --> 00:21:13,544 Speaker 1: again it's not the first time that celebrities on TV 470 00:21:13,624 --> 00:21:16,384 Speaker 1: shows have said this. It's more so what I'm noticing 471 00:21:16,464 --> 00:21:20,944 Speaker 1: is it's really kind of startling change in their language 472 00:21:20,944 --> 00:21:22,944 Speaker 1: where they've gone from saying like, oh, it can be 473 00:21:22,944 --> 00:21:25,344 Speaker 1: a bit difficult to being like, you guys are crazy 474 00:21:25,384 --> 00:21:27,944 Speaker 1: and awful and we hate you. Like the change in 475 00:21:28,024 --> 00:21:30,264 Speaker 1: tone and how they're saying it is crazy. So the 476 00:21:30,264 --> 00:21:32,104 Speaker 1: first one I want to bring up is Olivia Cook, 477 00:21:32,144 --> 00:21:34,504 Speaker 1: who is the star of House of the Dragon, the 478 00:21:34,544 --> 00:21:37,704 Speaker 1: Game of Throwing spinoff series, which is obviously it takes 479 00:21:37,704 --> 00:21:40,024 Speaker 1: so long for them to make it, there's years between seasons, 480 00:21:40,064 --> 00:21:41,944 Speaker 1: but when it's on one of the biggest shows in 481 00:21:41,984 --> 00:21:44,744 Speaker 1: the world. So she recently did an interview with The 482 00:21:44,784 --> 00:21:47,264 Speaker 1: Hollywood Reporter because she's got a few other projects coming out, 483 00:21:47,664 --> 00:21:50,424 Speaker 1: and they asked her about House of the Dragon, and 484 00:21:50,744 --> 00:21:53,584 Speaker 1: she says that not only is she seeing the hate 485 00:21:53,584 --> 00:21:56,664 Speaker 1: for her character Allison online, but she's seeing in a 486 00:21:56,704 --> 00:21:59,464 Speaker 1: real time. She was talking about people chasing her down 487 00:21:59,464 --> 00:22:01,624 Speaker 1: the street and like wanting to get photos with her, 488 00:22:01,624 --> 00:22:04,024 Speaker 1: and she'll say yes because they're fans, and they'll be 489 00:22:04,104 --> 00:22:05,944 Speaker 1: like take the photo and say, just so you know, 490 00:22:06,064 --> 00:22:09,944 Speaker 1: we hate your character, we really hate you. And people 491 00:22:09,984 --> 00:22:12,064 Speaker 1: will say that to her when she's like walking to set, 492 00:22:12,224 --> 00:22:14,944 Speaker 1: like just crazy stuff like that. And then she said, 493 00:22:15,184 --> 00:22:17,504 Speaker 1: in this interview, some of the fans of House of 494 00:22:17,544 --> 00:22:21,144 Speaker 1: the Dragon have been fucking horrible to our cast, and 495 00:22:21,184 --> 00:22:23,904 Speaker 1: she said it makes her really angry because she feels 496 00:22:23,944 --> 00:22:27,224 Speaker 1: like there's this expectation for actors to bow down to 497 00:22:27,264 --> 00:22:30,744 Speaker 1: their fans and be like obedient to them while they 498 00:22:30,784 --> 00:22:34,144 Speaker 1: are saying all these hate fuel things, And basically the 499 00:22:34,144 --> 00:22:35,984 Speaker 1: subtext is She's like, I've had enough. I don't care 500 00:22:35,984 --> 00:22:37,344 Speaker 1: if people hate me. I don't care if I don't 501 00:22:37,344 --> 00:22:40,544 Speaker 1: get jobs. I'm not pandering to these angry people anymore. 502 00:22:40,824 --> 00:22:44,584 Speaker 2: And I think this is a wider conversation on what 503 00:22:44,744 --> 00:22:48,824 Speaker 2: is the responsibility of a celebrity to their fan base, 504 00:22:48,944 --> 00:22:52,224 Speaker 2: like how much do they owe them? And I think 505 00:22:52,264 --> 00:22:54,424 Speaker 2: that it has kind of gotten to a point where 506 00:22:54,984 --> 00:22:57,824 Speaker 2: they're saying enough is enough. I don't owe you anything. 507 00:22:57,944 --> 00:23:00,544 Speaker 2: I'm here to do my job and make a TV show. 508 00:23:00,584 --> 00:23:03,744 Speaker 2: And yes, having fans is wonderful and having the support 509 00:23:03,824 --> 00:23:06,944 Speaker 2: is wonderful, but when it starts to impact me personally 510 00:23:07,104 --> 00:23:10,024 Speaker 2: and negatively affect my life, that's when it's going to 511 00:23:10,024 --> 00:23:11,224 Speaker 2: be a bit issue. 512 00:23:11,624 --> 00:23:14,504 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. It's also kind of interesting because these really 513 00:23:14,504 --> 00:23:18,824 Speaker 1: big franchises are so built on fans and fandoms and 514 00:23:19,104 --> 00:23:22,504 Speaker 1: this idea of shutting them down and this like actors 515 00:23:22,664 --> 00:23:26,184 Speaker 1: verse fandoms in this way of like before actors would 516 00:23:26,184 --> 00:23:28,024 Speaker 1: like kind of pretend some of this stuff wasn't happening. 517 00:23:28,184 --> 00:23:30,424 Speaker 1: I think will be interesting going forward for like how 518 00:23:30,464 --> 00:23:33,024 Speaker 1: these shows are promoted and stuff like that. The other 519 00:23:33,064 --> 00:23:35,424 Speaker 1: big celebrity who has had something recently, and this one 520 00:23:35,504 --> 00:23:38,544 Speaker 1: really shocked me is in someone Holder, who of course 521 00:23:38,624 --> 00:23:40,784 Speaker 1: plays one of the greatest TV characters of all time, 522 00:23:41,184 --> 00:23:42,984 Speaker 1: Damon Salvatore on The Vampire. 523 00:23:42,704 --> 00:23:44,584 Speaker 3: Diaries, Sexiest vampire in the world. 524 00:23:44,744 --> 00:23:47,344 Speaker 1: Yes, he really is. And just also again, obviously there's 525 00:23:47,344 --> 00:23:49,624 Speaker 1: a lot of wild stuff with that show. But that 526 00:23:49,784 --> 00:23:52,024 Speaker 1: show Vampire Diaries, it's been off the air for so 527 00:23:52,144 --> 00:23:55,104 Speaker 1: many years, it's still got this huge fandom. It stood 528 00:23:55,104 --> 00:23:57,384 Speaker 1: the test of time in a way that Hey, when 529 00:23:57,384 --> 00:23:59,944 Speaker 1: people write it off as being stupid, I was like, yes, 530 00:24:00,024 --> 00:24:02,624 Speaker 1: you might think it's stupid, but that show was standing 531 00:24:02,664 --> 00:24:05,464 Speaker 1: the test of time. It's become a classic because they 532 00:24:05,544 --> 00:24:08,024 Speaker 1: still do fandom events like the Cars still do fandom 533 00:24:08,064 --> 00:24:11,104 Speaker 1: events all over the world. They sell out, people still 534 00:24:11,144 --> 00:24:13,344 Speaker 1: get together and like celebrate it. The whole town where 535 00:24:13,344 --> 00:24:15,824 Speaker 1: they filmed it in has become like a shrine to 536 00:24:15,864 --> 00:24:17,624 Speaker 1: that show, and you can go, which I actually really 537 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,344 Speaker 1: want to do as a side note, go and visit 538 00:24:19,384 --> 00:24:22,424 Speaker 1: all the houses and everything. It's a whole thing. Anyway. 539 00:24:22,664 --> 00:24:26,664 Speaker 1: Ian has always been quite sweet about the fans. I 540 00:24:26,704 --> 00:24:28,464 Speaker 1: haven't personally met him because he's on I don't know 541 00:24:28,464 --> 00:24:30,104 Speaker 1: if you have he's on my note interview list. I 542 00:24:30,104 --> 00:24:32,424 Speaker 1: don't interview people from my favorite shows, but I know 543 00:24:32,504 --> 00:24:34,184 Speaker 1: lots of people who have interviewed him over the years 544 00:24:34,184 --> 00:24:36,944 Speaker 1: and met him. Apparently he's really sweet and respectful and lovely, 545 00:24:37,424 --> 00:24:41,264 Speaker 1: and he's usually really really careful about not saying anything 546 00:24:41,344 --> 00:24:44,384 Speaker 1: bad about the fandom. And he still goes to all 547 00:24:44,424 --> 00:24:46,704 Speaker 1: those big fan conventions and like, yes, you get paid 548 00:24:46,704 --> 00:24:48,744 Speaker 1: a shit ton of money for them, but he will 549 00:24:48,784 --> 00:24:51,384 Speaker 1: stand in line for hours and just take photos of fans. So, 550 00:24:51,464 --> 00:24:53,304 Speaker 1: up until this point, I did think that he was 551 00:24:53,344 --> 00:24:55,144 Speaker 1: someone who would never speak out against it. 552 00:24:55,544 --> 00:24:58,064 Speaker 2: He has in fact done so, though, And I want 553 00:24:58,104 --> 00:25:00,224 Speaker 2: you to read the quote because it's pretty shocking. 554 00:25:00,904 --> 00:25:03,024 Speaker 1: Yes, so there's a new book coming out which I'm 555 00:25:03,024 --> 00:25:05,744 Speaker 1: actually kind of excited to read. It's called I was 556 00:25:05,824 --> 00:25:09,104 Speaker 1: feeling epic. Well love that I was feeling epic. That's 557 00:25:09,104 --> 00:25:09,824 Speaker 1: a line from the show. 558 00:25:09,864 --> 00:25:11,624 Speaker 3: Have you watched? I actually haven't watched it. 559 00:25:12,104 --> 00:25:14,664 Speaker 2: Really sexy, sorry, I I The reason I say he's 560 00:25:14,664 --> 00:25:17,464 Speaker 2: the sexiest vampire is I haven't watched The Vampire Diaries, 561 00:25:17,744 --> 00:25:19,784 Speaker 2: but all I've seen his photos of human. 562 00:25:19,744 --> 00:25:20,664 Speaker 3: He looks really hot. 563 00:25:21,024 --> 00:25:21,544 Speaker 1: He's very hot. 564 00:25:21,584 --> 00:25:25,944 Speaker 2: You're correct, I'm just off my basing my hottest vampire 565 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:27,264 Speaker 2: in the world off. 566 00:25:27,264 --> 00:25:30,544 Speaker 1: A visual that's a really iconic line from this. 567 00:25:31,024 --> 00:25:34,344 Speaker 3: Because I had a blank face and you really expecting me. 568 00:25:34,664 --> 00:25:36,824 Speaker 1: So the name of this book is called I Was 569 00:25:36,824 --> 00:25:40,224 Speaker 1: Feeling Epic, An oral History of the Vampire Diaries, and 570 00:25:40,264 --> 00:25:43,904 Speaker 1: it's written by Samantha Hiphil who's an editor at Entertainment Weekly, 571 00:25:43,944 --> 00:25:47,184 Speaker 1: and she's like done the hard yards of interviewing everyone 572 00:25:47,224 --> 00:25:49,064 Speaker 1: who's involved in the show to get all the behind 573 00:25:49,104 --> 00:25:51,464 Speaker 1: the scenes. And Ian has done an interview with her, 574 00:25:51,584 --> 00:25:53,544 Speaker 1: and I was really shocked reading this because I have 575 00:25:53,664 --> 00:25:56,344 Speaker 1: never heard this sweet man talk this way, even though 576 00:25:56,344 --> 00:26:00,224 Speaker 1: he's been getting ripped apart publicly for years. So he said, 577 00:26:00,664 --> 00:26:03,144 Speaker 1: I was the biggest Delana fan. If you don't know 578 00:26:03,184 --> 00:26:05,504 Speaker 1: what there is. Delana is the fandom of Steph and 579 00:26:05,544 --> 00:26:08,424 Speaker 1: his character and then Elena Gilbert, who is the main 580 00:26:08,504 --> 00:26:10,024 Speaker 1: characters on the show, and that was their couple of 581 00:26:10,064 --> 00:26:12,464 Speaker 1: names on show, and people who were invested in them 582 00:26:12,504 --> 00:26:13,584 Speaker 1: are the Delina stands. 583 00:26:13,624 --> 00:26:15,864 Speaker 3: Whatever happened to couple names? I feel like a couple 584 00:26:15,944 --> 00:26:17,264 Speaker 3: names are kind of dropped off. 585 00:26:17,384 --> 00:26:19,904 Speaker 1: I feel like we segment all of those people should 586 00:26:19,904 --> 00:26:20,544 Speaker 1: have a couple of names. 587 00:26:20,584 --> 00:26:23,424 Speaker 3: I know we don't have like the Brandolina's like, what's 588 00:26:23,504 --> 00:26:23,864 Speaker 3: going on? 589 00:26:24,304 --> 00:26:26,664 Speaker 1: Where a couple the ball on that? 590 00:26:26,864 --> 00:26:28,504 Speaker 3: That's such I think we need to bring the couple 591 00:26:28,584 --> 00:26:29,104 Speaker 3: name back. 592 00:26:29,304 --> 00:26:32,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, we should have like Zoe and Harry should be Zari. 593 00:26:33,064 --> 00:26:34,544 Speaker 2: I feel like we need to do like a Kravats 594 00:26:34,664 --> 00:26:39,024 Speaker 2: and a Styles Cruis styles that doesn't really roll off 595 00:26:39,024 --> 00:26:39,224 Speaker 2: the time. 596 00:26:39,304 --> 00:26:42,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, this isn't working. That maybe why they've. 597 00:26:41,944 --> 00:26:44,264 Speaker 1: Got well, well, we also go back to that because 598 00:26:44,304 --> 00:26:46,624 Speaker 1: some couple names would be helpful with everything that's happening, 599 00:26:46,624 --> 00:26:48,984 Speaker 1: with the benefits of the next wave of benefits in 600 00:26:49,024 --> 00:26:52,264 Speaker 1: the world. So in this book, Ian said I was 601 00:26:52,264 --> 00:26:55,944 Speaker 1: the biggest Delaina fan ever until I realized the fandom 602 00:26:55,984 --> 00:26:59,144 Speaker 1: had the ability to turn on people and become really mean. 603 00:26:59,544 --> 00:27:01,744 Speaker 1: Something about a man who's about to turn fifty being like, 604 00:27:01,784 --> 00:27:04,104 Speaker 1: they're really mean. It is also quite funny. And then 605 00:27:04,104 --> 00:27:06,424 Speaker 1: he was like, I was like, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. 606 00:27:06,864 --> 00:27:10,624 Speaker 1: This is a fictional show with fictional characters. You can't 607 00:27:10,624 --> 00:27:13,424 Speaker 1: be mean to other people in real life. And then 608 00:27:13,464 --> 00:27:16,584 Speaker 1: he said it did change my appreciation of the fandom. 609 00:27:16,944 --> 00:27:19,104 Speaker 1: I don't like people being mean to one another. And 610 00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:23,224 Speaker 1: then he said, these fans are a toxic cancer on society. 611 00:27:23,864 --> 00:27:27,264 Speaker 3: That's absolutely huge. That's actually very pointed. 612 00:27:27,504 --> 00:27:29,464 Speaker 1: It's like him writing a match and setting the fandom 613 00:27:29,464 --> 00:27:30,264 Speaker 1: on fire, and. 614 00:27:30,864 --> 00:27:35,144 Speaker 2: That in itself, I think really explains how sick celebrities 615 00:27:35,184 --> 00:27:35,744 Speaker 2: are of this. 616 00:27:35,944 --> 00:27:36,904 Speaker 3: And I think we've. 617 00:27:36,784 --> 00:27:40,864 Speaker 2: Seen studios respond to these very aggressive fandoms. 618 00:27:41,104 --> 00:27:42,584 Speaker 3: In the Summer I Turned Pretty. 619 00:27:42,664 --> 00:27:45,144 Speaker 2: We saw that last we were talking about it last week, 620 00:27:45,704 --> 00:27:48,224 Speaker 2: and you know, the company had to, you know, put 621 00:27:48,304 --> 00:27:52,264 Speaker 2: out warnings saying don't harass them. And I think the 622 00:27:52,344 --> 00:27:56,224 Speaker 2: fact that in Summer Holder has said that, and you know, 623 00:27:56,344 --> 00:27:59,744 Speaker 2: we've got Olivia Cook saying something like that, maybe down 624 00:27:59,744 --> 00:28:02,144 Speaker 2: the line there's going to be more focused on holding 625 00:28:02,184 --> 00:28:06,344 Speaker 2: these people accountable for what they are saying to the stars. 626 00:28:06,504 --> 00:28:08,424 Speaker 3: Yeah, to an extent. I just don't know how. 627 00:28:08,304 --> 00:28:11,744 Speaker 1: You hold people like this accountable, be especially now as 628 00:28:11,824 --> 00:28:13,504 Speaker 1: much as we're talking about people coming up to these 629 00:28:13,544 --> 00:28:15,024 Speaker 1: actors in the street and stuff. A lot of it 630 00:28:15,104 --> 00:28:17,984 Speaker 1: is just done online through like anonymous accounts. But I 631 00:28:17,984 --> 00:28:20,664 Speaker 1: also think it's interesting because The Vampire Diaries was on 632 00:28:20,744 --> 00:28:23,344 Speaker 1: over a decade ago, and the Summer I Turned Pretty 633 00:28:23,584 --> 00:28:26,104 Speaker 1: is happening right now. And I think one of the 634 00:28:26,144 --> 00:28:30,144 Speaker 1: reasons why people are so up in arms and the 635 00:28:30,184 --> 00:28:32,984 Speaker 1: hatred for some of these characters is so intense. Is 636 00:28:32,984 --> 00:28:34,664 Speaker 1: that both of these shows are hooked on a love 637 00:28:34,704 --> 00:28:38,704 Speaker 1: triangle and nothing brings out the anger and the passion 638 00:28:38,864 --> 00:28:41,864 Speaker 1: and just the a breakdown of like how to behave 639 00:28:41,864 --> 00:28:45,024 Speaker 1: in society like a love triangle. Because with the Vampire 640 00:28:45,064 --> 00:28:48,784 Speaker 1: Diaries you had Elena, Stephan and Damon Oh my god, 641 00:28:48,824 --> 00:28:51,744 Speaker 1: actually both two brothers. Wow, guys, oh. 642 00:28:51,624 --> 00:28:55,064 Speaker 3: My gosh, there is a connection. Okay, so love. 643 00:28:54,904 --> 00:28:57,864 Speaker 1: Triangles with two brothers that apparently makes adults and teens 644 00:28:57,864 --> 00:29:00,464 Speaker 1: are like lose their freaking minds when they're watching it. 645 00:29:00,544 --> 00:29:03,224 Speaker 1: So back in the day with Vampire Diaries, the fandom 646 00:29:03,264 --> 00:29:06,264 Speaker 1: was so toxic because you had team Stephan or team Damon. 647 00:29:06,544 --> 00:29:09,304 Speaker 1: But the real life side of that was that Ian 648 00:29:09,664 --> 00:29:11,704 Speaker 1: was dating me in a dough breath for many years 649 00:29:11,744 --> 00:29:14,264 Speaker 1: in real life who played a lainer. And I think 650 00:29:14,304 --> 00:29:17,464 Speaker 1: some of the toxic fandom he's referring to here is 651 00:29:17,504 --> 00:29:21,344 Speaker 1: how angry people were at him when he and Ninadoe 652 00:29:21,384 --> 00:29:24,024 Speaker 1: Breave broke up, to the point where there has been 653 00:29:24,024 --> 00:29:26,864 Speaker 1: a lot of hatred and harassment towards his wife. Nicki 654 00:29:26,944 --> 00:29:30,824 Speaker 1: reed Twilight Star, it's all the vampire franchises coming together. 655 00:29:31,224 --> 00:29:33,664 Speaker 1: And he actually says in this book the reason that 656 00:29:33,784 --> 00:29:38,024 Speaker 1: Ian left Hollywood, and he does these fan conventions very soften, 657 00:29:38,064 --> 00:29:40,144 Speaker 1: but he's like, he left Hollywood to become an entrepreneur 658 00:29:40,144 --> 00:29:43,424 Speaker 1: because he couldn't deal with the drastic fandom. So I 659 00:29:43,464 --> 00:29:45,384 Speaker 1: just want people to also think about that, this is 660 00:29:45,424 --> 00:29:48,904 Speaker 1: the real life consequences of trolling your favorite celebrities. Is 661 00:29:48,904 --> 00:29:51,344 Speaker 1: that Damon Salvatore's and we're gonna be on our screens again. 662 00:29:51,464 --> 00:29:54,704 Speaker 2: I think it's also when art imitates life, when they 663 00:29:54,784 --> 00:29:57,704 Speaker 2: actually start dating in real life, that's when people start 664 00:29:57,744 --> 00:30:00,664 Speaker 2: to meld it into reality and think that these are 665 00:30:00,704 --> 00:30:02,904 Speaker 2: actually the characters because they're dating now in real life. 666 00:30:02,984 --> 00:30:06,024 Speaker 3: Like it's like people kind of go a little cuckoo. 667 00:30:06,544 --> 00:30:08,424 Speaker 1: And again that's the saying I love a fandom, but 668 00:30:08,464 --> 00:30:11,024 Speaker 1: like I keep my fandom to myself, cry at home 669 00:30:11,304 --> 00:30:13,344 Speaker 1: and I buy weird merge, and I watch things over 670 00:30:13,344 --> 00:30:15,784 Speaker 1: and over again, and I like fly to different states 671 00:30:15,784 --> 00:30:17,944 Speaker 1: to watch things with my sisters. But you can deal 672 00:30:17,944 --> 00:30:20,704 Speaker 1: it without attacking people online. But that's all we've seen. Yeah, 673 00:30:20,704 --> 00:30:22,384 Speaker 1: with the summer, I turn pretty at the moment. Is 674 00:30:22,424 --> 00:30:25,184 Speaker 1: that because it's a love triangle, and it's happening at 675 00:30:25,184 --> 00:30:28,264 Speaker 1: this point in time. It's like people are just completely 676 00:30:28,344 --> 00:30:31,584 Speaker 1: attacking the actor who plays Jeremiah, but they're also doing 677 00:30:31,624 --> 00:30:34,104 Speaker 1: that not just because they hate his character, but they 678 00:30:34,304 --> 00:30:37,064 Speaker 1: hate things that he has said in public, whether that's 679 00:30:37,104 --> 00:30:39,464 Speaker 1: fair or not. But they also think that the other 680 00:30:39,584 --> 00:30:43,664 Speaker 1: two stars who play Belly and Conrad. People think that 681 00:30:43,704 --> 00:30:46,184 Speaker 1: the actors hate this other actor. It's a whole thing. 682 00:30:46,384 --> 00:30:48,184 Speaker 1: None of this is like proven. You have to sort 683 00:30:48,184 --> 00:30:50,664 Speaker 1: of watch clips and look at old interviews and stuff, 684 00:30:50,704 --> 00:30:52,824 Speaker 1: and you can read it a certain way. But it's 685 00:30:52,864 --> 00:30:55,504 Speaker 1: like people have transferred their hatred to real life. 686 00:30:55,944 --> 00:30:57,664 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's where it gets dangerous. So 687 00:30:57,704 --> 00:30:57,944 Speaker 3: I do. 688 00:30:58,344 --> 00:31:02,904 Speaker 2: My personal opinion is that for these massive fandoms there 689 00:31:02,904 --> 00:31:05,544 Speaker 2: really does need to be some sort of protection either 690 00:31:05,584 --> 00:31:07,384 Speaker 2: for the actors. I don't know how they do it, 691 00:31:07,504 --> 00:31:11,304 Speaker 2: particularly with the way the internet is, but like, do 692 00:31:11,384 --> 00:31:14,344 Speaker 2: we just start putting out more of these warnings like 693 00:31:14,984 --> 00:31:17,824 Speaker 2: do not harass them, like and all these celebrities should 694 00:31:17,864 --> 00:31:18,584 Speaker 2: be speaking out. 695 00:31:18,624 --> 00:31:20,064 Speaker 3: I think it's really brave of. 696 00:31:20,024 --> 00:31:22,184 Speaker 2: Them to say, guys, I will not be spoken to 697 00:31:22,384 --> 00:31:23,864 Speaker 2: like that, stand up for yourself. 698 00:31:23,984 --> 00:31:25,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do think it's good that they're now 699 00:31:25,704 --> 00:31:27,384 Speaker 1: just not mincing their words and they're just being like, 700 00:31:27,424 --> 00:31:29,824 Speaker 1: you guys are fucking crazy. But I also think warning 701 00:31:29,864 --> 00:31:32,104 Speaker 1: that Prime Video put out for people not to troll, 702 00:31:32,184 --> 00:31:33,864 Speaker 1: and they put it out twice now for people not 703 00:31:33,864 --> 00:31:37,424 Speaker 1: to troll. The return Pretty cast did absolutely nothing. It 704 00:31:37,504 --> 00:31:39,504 Speaker 1: was like putting up like a paper chain in front 705 00:31:39,544 --> 00:31:41,584 Speaker 1: of a stampeding crowd. Like they just all ran over 706 00:31:41,624 --> 00:31:43,064 Speaker 1: it and did what they were going to do anyway. 707 00:31:43,104 --> 00:31:45,624 Speaker 1: But also that's just the power of fandoms. They are 708 00:31:45,664 --> 00:31:48,944 Speaker 1: a beautiful but dangerous creature, like they're good and bad. 709 00:31:49,144 --> 00:31:51,264 Speaker 3: I'm like you, I keep my fandom to myself. 710 00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:53,384 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll just be doing at home in a creepy way. 711 00:31:53,504 --> 00:31:56,824 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I keep it to myself. I very 712 00:31:56,864 --> 00:31:59,664 Speaker 2: rarely talk about it. It's a very personal private thing 713 00:32:00,184 --> 00:32:02,104 Speaker 2: because I'm embarrassed about a lot of my fat. 714 00:32:03,504 --> 00:32:06,024 Speaker 1: I get embarrassed. I'm just not lining up outside for anyone. 715 00:32:06,424 --> 00:32:06,704 Speaker 3: That's that. 716 00:32:06,864 --> 00:32:08,704 Speaker 1: But anyway, I hope, I hope all these actors are 717 00:32:08,704 --> 00:32:10,864 Speaker 1: doing well. And as we come now to the finale 718 00:32:10,904 --> 00:32:13,344 Speaker 1: of the summer I turned Pretty I just hope these 719 00:32:13,424 --> 00:32:15,464 Speaker 1: crazy kids can kind of keep it together. 720 00:32:15,384 --> 00:32:17,624 Speaker 2: Okay, Laura That's a great segue because we do have 721 00:32:17,664 --> 00:32:20,784 Speaker 2: a new show, watch Party, so it's in the Spill family, 722 00:32:20,824 --> 00:32:23,544 Speaker 2: but it does have its own feed. Watch Party is 723 00:32:23,544 --> 00:32:26,064 Speaker 2: a show that deep dives into some of our favorite shows, 724 00:32:26,864 --> 00:32:29,664 Speaker 2: and this Sunday we're dropping one on the Summer I 725 00:32:29,784 --> 00:32:32,784 Speaker 2: turned pretty ahead of the finale, and we're kind of 726 00:32:32,824 --> 00:32:33,704 Speaker 2: talking about. 727 00:32:33,464 --> 00:32:36,584 Speaker 3: Why this show is so popular now. 728 00:32:36,624 --> 00:32:40,304 Speaker 2: It's hosted by some of our Mama Maya team who 729 00:32:40,384 --> 00:32:43,984 Speaker 2: are absolutely obsessed with it, and you guys have to 730 00:32:44,024 --> 00:32:46,304 Speaker 2: check it out. Okay, well, thank you so much for 731 00:32:46,384 --> 00:32:49,464 Speaker 2: listening to The Spill today, guys. The Spill's produced by 732 00:32:49,504 --> 00:32:52,984 Speaker 2: Manisha Esworn with sound production by Scott Stronach. Okay, we've 733 00:32:52,984 --> 00:32:54,624 Speaker 2: got a little bit of a favor to ask you. 734 00:32:55,144 --> 00:32:56,664 Speaker 2: The best thing that you can do that if you 735 00:32:56,864 --> 00:33:00,064 Speaker 2: love this pod is to leave a review wherever you're 736 00:33:00,064 --> 00:33:03,784 Speaker 2: listening to this, whether it's an Apple Spotify. The Spill 737 00:33:03,904 --> 00:33:06,624 Speaker 2: also has a brand new YouTube channel that we would 738 00:33:06,704 --> 00:33:08,904 Speaker 2: love you to check out. We've hope a link in 739 00:33:08,944 --> 00:33:11,984 Speaker 2: the show notes for you and you can see our 740 00:33:12,104 --> 00:33:14,984 Speaker 2: pretty little faces on there. The Spill also has a 741 00:33:14,984 --> 00:33:17,304 Speaker 2: brand new YouTube channel, so we popped that link in 742 00:33:17,344 --> 00:33:19,904 Speaker 2: the show notes as well, we'll see you back here 743 00:33:19,944 --> 00:33:22,224 Speaker 2: in your podcast feed for all of the slip headlines 744 00:33:22,224 --> 00:33:25,144 Speaker 2: at eight am with Morning Tea, then back with another 745 00:33:25,224 --> 00:33:27,384 Speaker 2: episode of the Spill at three pm tomorrow. 746 00:33:27,464 --> 00:33:33,664 Speaker 3: Bye bye,