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Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill your daily pop

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Speaker 1: culture fix. I'm Cassane Lukitch.

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Speaker 2: And Laura Brodnick is not here today, so I am

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Speaker 2: filling in. I'm Tina Burg. I am Muma MIA's pop

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Speaker 2: culture and social editor.

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Speaker 1: So today on the show, We've got lots to talk about.

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Speaker 3: We're going to dive into the Dakota and Elle Fanning

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Speaker 3: Vanity Fair interview.

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Speaker 2: Exciting plus the hottest ro income coming to a cinema.

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Speaker 2: Maybe me you check out.

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Speaker 1: But first, there is a wedding that we need to

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Speaker 1: talk about.

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited to talk about this wedding, wedding of

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Speaker 2: the century.

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Speaker 3: For me personally, I feel like it's kind of a

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Speaker 3: little bit sad because it's the second wedding in the

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Speaker 3: last three months. So Charlie XCX and George Daniel got

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Speaker 3: married again.

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Speaker 2: Again a second time. It's very celib to do a

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Speaker 2: second wedding.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'm just like, you just got married three

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Speaker 3: months ago, But I think it was because it was

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Speaker 3: a civil ceremony.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so in order to get married in Italy, they

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Speaker 2: had to do like a London ceremony first in the UK,

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Speaker 2: where they're both from. So they had their really cool

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Speaker 2: we go to the pub. We're just like walking down

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Speaker 2: the street having a wedding, and everyone was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: so minimal, so chic. But now they've done the big

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Speaker 2: fancy one in Italy.

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Speaker 3: I know, I think LBA is going to be really

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Speaker 3: disappointed in that, because she was really excited about the

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Speaker 3: fact that they were just doing a really a.

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Speaker 2: Really low wedding. Yeah, she wore a mini dress for

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Speaker 2: God's sake. It's very casual in Vivian Westward.

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Speaker 1: So they got married instantly. Yeah. On September thirteen, she

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Speaker 1: wore a custom ivory silk chaffon gown by Danielle Frankle.

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Speaker 1: She looks gorgeous.

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful dress. It's like so summary but also

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Speaker 3: It was a lot more feminine from her than I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and very very contrasting wedding looks from.

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Speaker 1: Her for sure. Yeah, kind of really suits that Italy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, suited the Italy location. My favorite thing was seeing

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Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy five and their frontman, Mattie Healy. Oh

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Speaker 2: I know Matti Heey is Maddi Healy, but he was

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Speaker 2: People thought that was insane. But now that we know

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Speaker 2: this is the one where all the nineteen seventy five

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Speaker 2: his mum. Oh, his whole family, the Heay family were

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Speaker 2: Charlie XCX, bestI, Emelia de Moldenberg who we would know

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Speaker 2: better as Chicken Chop Date Girl. And we also had

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Speaker 2: obviously like some artists like Claro and some you know

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Speaker 3: Feeling a bit over weddings in Italy for people who

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Speaker 2: I would love it for myself personally, but I do

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Speaker 2: want to know where the next location would be, Like

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I love a destination wedding. I've

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we want new inspo.

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Speaker 1: Where are they going best?

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Speaker 2: I kind of think that it would be cool if,

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Speaker 2: That's where I want us to go next. In the

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Speaker 2: I don't want to go somewhere normal.

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Speaker 1: Would you ever do a cold wedding location? Yes?

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Speaker 2: I think someone should get married in the snow. Do

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Speaker 2: but Nicole Kimmen. Maybe Nicole and Keith could do another

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Speaker 3: Anyway, she looked gorgeous. But yeah, second wedding in three months.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the celeb way to do it.

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Speaker 3: Da Now, we know how much we love a celebrity

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Speaker 3: profile piece here at the Spell and the latest one

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Speaker 3: from Vanity Fair is on Dakota and Elle Fanning and

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Speaker 3: I am obsessed with it.

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Speaker 2: It's so beautiful. It was the first thing I saw

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Speaker 2: and then all the subsequent videos and pictures. It's stunning.

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Speaker 1: I just love them so much as sisters.

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Speaker 3: And you know, we've talked a lot about child stars,

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Speaker 3: but they just seem so normal. I mean, Dakota's thirty

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and one with Sean Van Do you

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Speaker 2: She was such a Baby, and the fact that they

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Speaker 2: Like her career has had such legs since she was

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Speaker 1: Well from I Am Sam.

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Speaker 3: She basically did two movies every year, and Michelle Feiffer

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Speaker 2: I love that. Elle was just always there in the background,

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Speaker 2: But I love the l kind of followed in her

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Speaker 2: little footsteps. But it was very much like the Dakota Show, right,

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Speaker 2: like she was the one to watch. She was in everything,

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Speaker 1: She's just a very, very talented actor. And it was interesting.

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Speaker 3: Elle actually says, she's like I'm a NEPO sister I'm

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Speaker 3: she's Dakota's sister, we'll see you for this audition. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but they just seem to have a really lovely relationship.

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Speaker 3: So they're actually going to be starring in a movie

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is cool. The Nightingale.

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Speaker 2: that is a book written by Kristin Hannah, and she

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Speaker 2: sweeping historical fictions, and this one is about two sisters

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Speaker 2: been trying to get this film made for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yes, during Lockdown they were trying to get it picked up,

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Speaker 3: but it obviously got put on hold because of the pandemic.

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Speaker 3: And it's actually being produced with Reese Witherspury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a classic recent adaptation. She loves one.

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Speaker 1: There are also rumors that they will be playing the

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Speaker 2: Which is just so iconic because the two most iconic

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Speaker 2: Who do you think's playing?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I was gonna ask you the same question. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: So I feel like we kind of have to do

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, because they're like Elle Fanning, free

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Speaker 2: She has to be Paris right, and Nicky is the

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Speaker 3: And it does feel quite their sister relationship kind of

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Speaker 2: I do I have an older sister. So I am

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Speaker 1: It really made me want a sister.

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Speaker 2: Oh the boys. I have a brother too, And like

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Speaker 1: But no, I know there's no way my brothers are

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I always wanted a sister growing up. And

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Speaker 3: Jess like the way that Dakota talked about it, and

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Speaker 3: they both got misty eyed in the interview, Dakota talking

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Speaker 2: I was like, that was so beautiful, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: But it's such a younger sister thing. Throughout this interview

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Speaker 2: they did the Vanity Fair light detector test, which is

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Speaker 2: and one of them was basically just Elle trolling Dakota.

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Speaker 2: But in the light detector test, one of you gets

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Speaker 2: so Elle leads in by saying Dakota had a Twilight

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Speaker 2: the Twilight character could inflict pain, and she says, was

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Speaker 2: this a metaphor for being an older sister? And Dakota's like, no,

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Speaker 2: I wasn't mean to you. I wasn't a bully, and

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Speaker 2: But they're laughing throughout this whole thing, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: To next year.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm very excited to talk about this. I could

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Speaker 2: I internalized that real bad. But then once I got

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Speaker 2: into them by this author Emily Henry, who will talk

435
00:18:59,904 --> 00:19:01,864
Speaker 2: about in a minute, you know, it's one of my

436
00:19:01,864 --> 00:19:03,304
Speaker 2: favorite things to do is read rom coms.

437
00:19:03,304 --> 00:19:03,744
Speaker 1: Now, I love it.

438
00:19:03,784 --> 00:19:05,304
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it, which brings me to

439
00:19:05,344 --> 00:19:07,664
Speaker 2: the love hypothesis. It is a film that is coming

440
00:19:07,704 --> 00:19:11,304
Speaker 2: out next year, and it has taken hold of the

441
00:19:11,384 --> 00:19:13,784
Speaker 2: internet in the last month or so because the cast

442
00:19:13,864 --> 00:19:15,704
Speaker 2: was announced and then they were doing all these like

443
00:19:15,744 --> 00:19:19,264
Speaker 2: behind the scenes tiktoks which have like hundreds of millions

444
00:19:19,304 --> 00:19:22,224
Speaker 2: of views and engagements. People are losing their goddamn minds

445
00:19:22,224 --> 00:19:24,544
Speaker 2: about this movie. And I'm here to tell you why

446
00:19:24,744 --> 00:19:26,744
Speaker 2: I'm very excited. Have you heard anything about this?

447
00:19:26,824 --> 00:19:28,264
Speaker 1: All I know is Lily rein Hart.

448
00:19:28,344 --> 00:19:31,184
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So Lily Reinhart of Riverdale fame, who we

449
00:19:31,224 --> 00:19:33,464
Speaker 2: love very much. She is starring in this film. She's

450
00:19:33,504 --> 00:19:36,144
Speaker 2: also producing. And I do think we have heard a

451
00:19:36,224 --> 00:19:39,824
Speaker 2: thank for a lot of this nonsense. So Lily Reinhart

452
00:19:39,904 --> 00:19:42,744
Speaker 2: is starring in this movie, and she's starring opposite Tom Bateman.

453
00:19:42,784 --> 00:19:44,144
Speaker 2: If you don't know him, he's in a lot of

454
00:19:44,224 --> 00:19:47,864
Speaker 2: those cozy murder situations. He's in murder on the Orawn Express,

455
00:19:47,944 --> 00:19:50,024
Speaker 2: He's in based on a true story. He's a British

456
00:19:50,064 --> 00:19:54,464
Speaker 2: actor's cute. He's in cozy murder. That's his vibe. And

457
00:19:54,504 --> 00:19:57,744
Speaker 2: now rom com lead, and I think it's time because

458
00:19:57,784 --> 00:19:59,544
Speaker 2: he's got the energy for a rom com lead. He's

459
00:19:59,544 --> 00:20:02,704
Speaker 2: actually a really charming, very good looking man, as most

460
00:20:02,784 --> 00:20:06,744
Speaker 2: actors are. But basically this is based on an Ali

461
00:20:06,904 --> 00:20:09,384
Speaker 2: Hazelwood novel. And if you don't know anything about Ali

462
00:20:09,464 --> 00:20:11,824
Speaker 2: hazel Wood, she wrote it's a lot of romances about

463
00:20:11,824 --> 00:20:14,904
Speaker 2: women in stem And the reason that the Tom Bateman

464
00:20:14,984 --> 00:20:19,264
Speaker 2: casting was so insane is that this book, The Love Hypothesis,

465
00:20:19,784 --> 00:20:23,664
Speaker 2: is based on fan fiction about Tom Bateman's wife.

466
00:20:23,864 --> 00:20:26,824
Speaker 3: So when this cast announcement came out, we kind of

467
00:20:26,824 --> 00:20:29,624
Speaker 3: talked about it very very briefly, and I know there's

468
00:20:29,664 --> 00:20:32,744
Speaker 3: some like history fan fiction thing behind it.

469
00:20:32,904 --> 00:20:36,184
Speaker 2: Yes, So Hazelwood had written a book called Head over Feet,

470
00:20:36,224 --> 00:20:40,264
Speaker 2: which was actually like Star Wars Raylo fan fiction about

471
00:20:40,344 --> 00:20:43,824
Speaker 2: Kylo Ren and Ray Ray is played by Daisy Ridley

472
00:20:43,864 --> 00:20:46,184
Speaker 2: and Kylo Ren is played by Adam Driver. So when

473
00:20:46,224 --> 00:20:48,784
Speaker 2: she then sort of took this plot and story further

474
00:20:48,824 --> 00:20:51,344
Speaker 2: into the love hypothesis, she kept the character traits, she

475
00:20:51,424 --> 00:20:54,544
Speaker 2: kept the character descriptions above all else. So everyone always

476
00:20:54,624 --> 00:20:58,384
Speaker 2: envisioned like Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley when reading this book,

477
00:20:58,424 --> 00:21:00,504
Speaker 2: they would put them in their fan cast. Everyone was like,

478
00:21:00,584 --> 00:21:02,744
Speaker 2: Adam Driver has to play this role, and like that

479
00:21:02,904 --> 00:21:05,784
Speaker 2: was never ever going to happen. That's insane. But we

480
00:21:05,864 --> 00:21:08,104
Speaker 2: got the next best thing, which is that literally Daisy

481
00:21:08,144 --> 00:21:11,624
Speaker 2: Ridley's husband, Tom Bateman is playing the in this film,

482
00:21:12,024 --> 00:21:14,744
Speaker 2: and they've both acknowledged it. Like it's very rare for

483
00:21:14,824 --> 00:21:17,264
Speaker 2: fan fiction to become a real novel and then also

484
00:21:17,304 --> 00:21:19,024
Speaker 2: to become a film. I mean, it's not that rare.

485
00:21:19,184 --> 00:21:23,184
Speaker 2: I mean, fifty Shapes of Gray started as Twilight fan fiction. Yeah,

486
00:21:23,224 --> 00:21:26,064
Speaker 2: but this is sort of how we have enjoyed all

487
00:21:26,104 --> 00:21:28,064
Speaker 2: of this content, is the fact that they're getting asked

488
00:21:28,104 --> 00:21:31,064
Speaker 2: about it. So he said that he was told after

489
00:21:31,104 --> 00:21:33,704
Speaker 2: he was offered the job, just like, hey, FYI, this

490
00:21:33,824 --> 00:21:36,184
Speaker 2: is based on fan fiction about your wife, and he thought,

491
00:21:36,624 --> 00:21:38,744
Speaker 2: bit of fun. He thought that it meant that, like

492
00:21:38,984 --> 00:21:42,424
Speaker 2: the Star Wars stuff inspired Ali hazel Wood to start writing.

493
00:21:42,504 --> 00:21:45,264
Speaker 2: He didn't realize like exactly the extent. And then when

494
00:21:45,264 --> 00:21:47,984
Speaker 2: the video started coming out and everyone started freaking out,

495
00:21:48,064 --> 00:21:52,104
Speaker 2: he and Daisy Ridley were like, oh, this is crazy,

496
00:21:52,704 --> 00:21:55,344
Speaker 2: but it's very very fun and very very saucy. And

497
00:21:55,384 --> 00:21:58,144
Speaker 2: the thing is, this is a really steamy book. It's

498
00:21:58,264 --> 00:22:01,784
Speaker 2: very smutty, very spicy, and Lily Reinhart has confirmed that

499
00:22:01,824 --> 00:22:03,744
Speaker 2: it will not be a PG. Thirteen rating.

500
00:22:03,824 --> 00:22:05,744
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is going to be a sexy movie.

501
00:22:05,904 --> 00:22:08,224
Speaker 3: So there's something that you can read. Because do you

502
00:22:08,264 --> 00:22:09,584
Speaker 3: remember when Fifty.

503
00:22:09,304 --> 00:22:11,184
Speaker 1: Shades of Gray came out and people were reading on

504
00:22:11,224 --> 00:22:12,144
Speaker 1: the train and everyone was like.

505
00:22:12,264 --> 00:22:15,224
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if the right person saw you reading

506
00:22:15,224 --> 00:22:16,944
Speaker 2: it on the bus or the train, they would know

507
00:22:17,184 --> 00:22:19,704
Speaker 2: what you're reading. But like if anyone else, students, they

508
00:22:19,744 --> 00:22:23,064
Speaker 2: will have these like cartoon covers now all the romance books.

509
00:22:23,064 --> 00:22:25,104
Speaker 2: So it's called that vibe of like she's just reading

510
00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:28,504
Speaker 2: a girly book, and then the book is like ah,

511
00:22:28,544 --> 00:22:31,264
Speaker 2: but basically it is like a fake romance kind of story.

512
00:22:31,344 --> 00:22:34,464
Speaker 2: So it's about a girl called Olive. She's a PhD

513
00:22:34,624 --> 00:22:37,864
Speaker 2: candidate at Stanford University. Her friends are like, why don't

514
00:22:37,864 --> 00:22:39,984
Speaker 2: you date more? And she's like, oh, I just like,

515
00:22:40,064 --> 00:22:42,304
Speaker 2: I'm so busy, And in order to convince them that

516
00:22:42,344 --> 00:22:45,624
Speaker 2: she has a boyfriend, she randomly kisses some guy at

517
00:22:45,744 --> 00:22:48,824
Speaker 2: university and it turns out that he's this like grumpy,

518
00:22:48,984 --> 00:22:52,544
Speaker 2: hot professor, and for some unknown reason he decides like,

519
00:22:52,664 --> 00:22:55,144
Speaker 2: let's do fake dating, and so they have a fake

520
00:22:55,224 --> 00:22:59,344
Speaker 2: dating relationship and then you know, romance ensues. But it

521
00:22:59,424 --> 00:23:02,104
Speaker 2: is going to be the hottest movie of twenty twenty six,

522
00:23:02,184 --> 00:23:03,584
Speaker 2: and so if you want to get on board now,

523
00:23:03,664 --> 00:23:05,624
Speaker 2: you need to read the book. I'll say it is

524
00:23:05,624 --> 00:23:08,384
Speaker 2: my least favorite of Alie Hazelwood's books. It's still a

525
00:23:08,384 --> 00:23:10,544
Speaker 2: fun time. We've got some girlies in the office reading

526
00:23:10,584 --> 00:23:11,944
Speaker 2: it at the moment, just to catch up.

527
00:23:12,104 --> 00:23:14,184
Speaker 3: It's part of book club here at Mama Mayo, So

528
00:23:14,264 --> 00:23:17,424
Speaker 3: I might have to dive into it. I am just

529
00:23:17,544 --> 00:23:23,064
Speaker 3: like craving a really good rom com, really good.

530
00:23:22,864 --> 00:23:27,144
Speaker 1: Two thousand's rom coms. Yeah, we just haven't had many lately.

531
00:23:27,664 --> 00:23:30,384
Speaker 2: No, there's been a massive decline in like those mid budget,

532
00:23:30,584 --> 00:23:32,984
Speaker 2: crowd pleasing rom coms. So the ones that were like,

533
00:23:33,024 --> 00:23:35,304
Speaker 2: you know, you've got male ridiculous plots, how to lose

534
00:23:35,344 --> 00:23:37,024
Speaker 2: a guy in tende ridiculous plot?

535
00:23:37,104 --> 00:23:38,144
Speaker 1: Oh, the best movie ever?

536
00:23:38,344 --> 00:23:42,184
Speaker 2: You needed to have like two B to a list celebrities.

537
00:23:42,264 --> 00:23:44,144
Speaker 2: You need a bit of nonsense, and you need a

538
00:23:44,144 --> 00:23:46,664
Speaker 2: really good soundtrack and like a tight hour thirty time

539
00:23:46,704 --> 00:23:48,824
Speaker 2: frame for a rom com to really be like that

540
00:23:48,944 --> 00:23:52,624
Speaker 2: classic nostalgic feeling. And often they were adapted, right, So

541
00:23:52,704 --> 00:23:55,584
Speaker 2: Devil was Prada, Confessions of a Shopperholic Bridget Jones, those

542
00:23:55,624 --> 00:23:58,584
Speaker 2: all book adaptations, And it wasn't always the case that

543
00:23:58,624 --> 00:24:00,424
Speaker 2: they had to be, But now it sort of seems

544
00:24:00,464 --> 00:24:02,824
Speaker 2: like to get one of these rom coms greenlit, you've

545
00:24:02,824 --> 00:24:05,424
Speaker 2: got to go with something that already has a big

546
00:24:05,464 --> 00:24:07,464
Speaker 2: fan base so that you know they're all gonna watch it.

547
00:24:07,664 --> 00:24:07,944
Speaker 1: Yeah.

548
00:24:08,064 --> 00:24:10,344
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, like I'm thinking about like twenty seven,

549
00:24:11,024 --> 00:24:12,704
Speaker 3: the most beautiful film of all time.

550
00:24:12,744 --> 00:24:16,624
Speaker 2: I love that movie so much and the gym He's

551
00:24:16,664 --> 00:24:17,064
Speaker 2: so hot.

552
00:24:17,384 --> 00:24:18,744
Speaker 1: It's really hard for that movie.

553
00:24:18,784 --> 00:24:21,624
Speaker 2: But we're kind of re entering this era through the adaptations.

554
00:24:21,744 --> 00:24:24,344
Speaker 2: So Love Hypothesis is just one of them. We've got

555
00:24:24,344 --> 00:24:26,624
Speaker 2: so many more coming in the next year, and so

556
00:24:26,664 --> 00:24:29,344
Speaker 2: if people want to get on board. Some people Claire

557
00:24:29,384 --> 00:24:31,624
Speaker 2: Murphy said this on you know, our watch Party podcast

558
00:24:31,704 --> 00:24:34,024
Speaker 2: last week that she prefers to watch and then read

559
00:24:34,064 --> 00:24:37,104
Speaker 2: the book Oh, which is crazy to me, okay, and

560
00:24:37,104 --> 00:24:40,184
Speaker 2: I would never do it. So if that's your deal, fine,

561
00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:43,264
Speaker 2: I don't like, I don't agree with you. But if

562
00:24:43,344 --> 00:24:44,704
Speaker 2: that's your deal, fine, But if you want to get

563
00:24:44,704 --> 00:24:46,504
Speaker 2: on board and read the books before the movies, there's

564
00:24:46,544 --> 00:24:48,744
Speaker 2: quite a few coming out. So the other really hot

565
00:24:48,744 --> 00:24:50,344
Speaker 2: one that we're all looking forward to is People we

566
00:24:50,424 --> 00:24:53,704
Speaker 2: Meet on Vacation. Yes, that's coming to Netflix on January nine,

567
00:24:53,864 --> 00:24:56,624
Speaker 2: and it stars Emily Beata and Tom Blythe and it's

568
00:24:56,624 --> 00:24:59,064
Speaker 2: an adaptation of Emily Henry, who is one of my

569
00:24:59,064 --> 00:25:03,264
Speaker 2: favorite romcom authors. And it's like a travel through the

570
00:25:03,344 --> 00:25:06,584
Speaker 2: years with this duo of friends who go on holidays

571
00:25:06,624 --> 00:25:08,944
Speaker 2: every year and something happened and they're going on one

572
00:25:08,984 --> 00:25:10,904
Speaker 2: last holiday to try to fix the friendship.

573
00:25:11,024 --> 00:25:13,104
Speaker 1: Okay, it sounds like I know what you did last summer,

574
00:25:13,464 --> 00:25:14,904
Speaker 1: but happy.

575
00:25:15,504 --> 00:25:18,864
Speaker 2: No matter, no one's getting killed. It's a beautiful romance.

576
00:25:19,144 --> 00:25:20,944
Speaker 2: So that's one of the exciting ones. And then the

577
00:25:20,984 --> 00:25:23,624
Speaker 2: other one that's really thrilling that just was announced this

578
00:25:23,664 --> 00:25:27,184
Speaker 2: week is the Chestnut Springs series by Elsie Silva is

579
00:25:27,224 --> 00:25:31,384
Speaker 2: also being adapted by Netflix. So Chestnut Springs is cowboy

580
00:25:31,464 --> 00:25:34,304
Speaker 2: smut for anyone who doesn't know. And cowboy smut is

581
00:25:34,344 --> 00:25:37,264
Speaker 2: basically like if you took the concept of romanticy, like

582
00:25:37,704 --> 00:25:40,704
Speaker 2: just like the wildest fantasies you could imagine, but instead

583
00:25:40,744 --> 00:25:43,424
Speaker 2: of like men who ride dragons, it's just cowboys. That

584
00:25:43,544 --> 00:25:46,144
Speaker 2: is cowboy smut. Nothing in these books is realistic, and

585
00:25:46,224 --> 00:25:47,064
Speaker 2: we're okay with that.

586
00:25:47,264 --> 00:25:48,144
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's okay.

587
00:25:48,264 --> 00:25:51,744
Speaker 3: It's fine if you were to classify your favorite form

588
00:25:51,784 --> 00:25:54,944
Speaker 3: of romance smart, Like if we've got cowboys smart, we've

589
00:25:54,984 --> 00:25:59,344
Speaker 3: got space smart, we've got like stem smart, we've got

590
00:25:59,424 --> 00:26:00,304
Speaker 3: bondage smart.

591
00:26:00,624 --> 00:26:02,424
Speaker 1: Everything, Like what do you like the best?

592
00:26:02,704 --> 00:26:05,304
Speaker 2: I actually think Emily Henry, who yeah, is the author

593
00:26:05,304 --> 00:26:07,184
Speaker 2: of People we Meet on Vacation Hers are my favorite

594
00:26:07,224 --> 00:26:09,544
Speaker 2: because they actually just feel like rom coms. They have

595
00:26:09,624 --> 00:26:12,064
Speaker 2: that vibe of being a book that when you read them,

596
00:26:12,184 --> 00:26:14,184
Speaker 2: yes they're great and wonderful as books, but you can

597
00:26:14,224 --> 00:26:16,864
Speaker 2: see them being a film. They feel to me like

598
00:26:16,904 --> 00:26:19,144
Speaker 2: the vintage rom coms, and we're getting all of them.

599
00:26:19,304 --> 00:26:21,544
Speaker 2: All of her books are being adapted at the moment,

600
00:26:21,584 --> 00:26:23,944
Speaker 2: but by different streamers, and some will be coming to

601
00:26:23,984 --> 00:26:26,464
Speaker 2: cinema and some are going straight to streaming, which, as

602
00:26:26,464 --> 00:26:28,544
Speaker 2: we know, can sometimes hinder the quality.

603
00:26:28,864 --> 00:26:32,024
Speaker 3: I love a streaming service, but sometimes when it's that

604
00:26:32,264 --> 00:26:34,344
Speaker 3: straight to streaming service.

605
00:26:34,504 --> 00:26:36,144
Speaker 1: Even if it's got a really.

606
00:26:35,904 --> 00:26:40,224
Speaker 3: Amazing cast backed with it, it's just not very good.

607
00:26:40,304 --> 00:26:41,304
Speaker 1: And I don't know what it is.

608
00:26:41,544 --> 00:26:44,344
Speaker 2: It's something it's really hard to put a finger on

609
00:26:44,384 --> 00:26:47,224
Speaker 2: what the problem is sometimes with the straight to streaming

610
00:26:47,304 --> 00:26:49,344
Speaker 2: rom coms, because I still enjoy them, but I know

611
00:26:49,384 --> 00:26:53,064
Speaker 2: what you mean. They don't feel like a classic rom com.

612
00:26:53,104 --> 00:26:54,664
Speaker 2: The only one that I can think of in recent

613
00:26:54,744 --> 00:26:56,624
Speaker 2: years that did it for me, it's not even recent

614
00:26:56,664 --> 00:26:58,744
Speaker 2: at this point, but Set it Up, starring Glenn Powell

615
00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:01,144
Speaker 2: and Zoe Dutch. That was a Netflix rom com that

616
00:27:01,344 --> 00:27:04,344
Speaker 2: felt like a real rom com. And I'm kind of

617
00:27:04,344 --> 00:27:06,384
Speaker 2: hoping they can do it with people we meet on vacation,

618
00:27:07,064 --> 00:27:09,424
Speaker 2: but I'm not so sure. It's really really hard to tell.

619
00:27:09,584 --> 00:27:12,264
Speaker 2: The Love Hypothesis actually has the same director as set

620
00:27:12,264 --> 00:27:14,264
Speaker 2: it up, So I'm kind of thinking that if we've

621
00:27:14,264 --> 00:27:17,224
Speaker 2: got any chance in hell of a romcom that feels

622
00:27:17,304 --> 00:27:20,864
Speaker 2: vintage and feels interesting and funny and romantic, it's going

623
00:27:20,904 --> 00:27:21,584
Speaker 2: to be that one.

624
00:27:21,624 --> 00:27:23,704
Speaker 3: Okay, we need to get like a full list from you,

625
00:27:23,744 --> 00:27:25,504
Speaker 3: because I can't keep these all in my brain. But

626
00:27:25,544 --> 00:27:27,264
Speaker 3: I feel like I've got a lot of reading to do.

627
00:27:27,624 --> 00:27:29,624
Speaker 2: There's a lot of reading I do, Oh my god.

628
00:27:29,664 --> 00:27:31,344
Speaker 2: And if you want to get into the dragons of

629
00:27:31,384 --> 00:27:34,744
Speaker 2: it all, Fourth Wing is going to be adapted. Game

630
00:27:34,784 --> 00:27:38,624
Speaker 2: of Thrones is going to be adapted. It's smart into Yeah,

631
00:27:38,664 --> 00:27:39,464
Speaker 2: it's becoming a mean.

632
00:27:39,384 --> 00:27:41,304
Speaker 1: I guess it kind of already was smart.

633
00:27:41,384 --> 00:27:43,544
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's going to be a TV show. Fourth

634
00:27:43,544 --> 00:27:46,064
Speaker 2: Wing's going to have a TV show. And like, the

635
00:27:46,104 --> 00:27:47,824
Speaker 2: list goes on and on and on. If you want

636
00:27:47,824 --> 00:27:49,904
Speaker 2: me to do a quick list, We've got the Rebel

637
00:27:49,904 --> 00:27:53,504
Speaker 2: Blue Ranch series, which is also Cowboy smut. That's by

638
00:27:53,584 --> 00:27:58,664
Speaker 2: Leilah Sage. It happened one summer, also becoming a film Icebreaker,

639
00:27:58,744 --> 00:28:01,264
Speaker 2: which is where we get into hockey smart that's becoming

640
00:28:01,424 --> 00:28:03,944
Speaker 2: a TV series, and so is the deal. So those

641
00:28:03,984 --> 00:28:07,904
Speaker 2: are the more like teen hockey college romances. We're getting

642
00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:11,384
Speaker 2: adaptation after adaptation, and I kind of that we might

643
00:28:11,424 --> 00:28:13,944
Speaker 2: be about to fix the romcom issue that we're all facing.

644
00:28:14,024 --> 00:28:17,144
Speaker 2: I like a little history is smart, okay, modern ish history,

645
00:28:17,144 --> 00:28:20,104
Speaker 2: but Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins read which recently came out.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's set in like I've read this book

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Speaker 2: and I want to say it was set in the seventies. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's still the sixties, and came in that is involved.

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Speaker 2: That's also being adopted. So like that, We've got a

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Speaker 2: lot of good stuff coming out soon hopefully.

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Speaker 3: All right, smart fans, get buddy, it's all happening. Thank

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Speaker 3: you so much for listening to the Spill today, and

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Speaker 3: thank you very much Tina Burg for giving us all

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Speaker 3: your smart recommendations. The Spills produced by Manisha's were and

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Speaker 3: with sound production by Scott Stronik. Now I've got one

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Speaker 3: more very important thing to tell you about. Tonight is

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Speaker 3: your last chance to quickly listen to an episode of

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Speaker 3: Watch Party Deep Diving on the summer. I turned pretty

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Speaker 3: to see what you can expect from tonight's finale, which

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Speaker 3: drops at five pm on BRIME. Then there's going to

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Speaker 3: be a brand new episode in a new feed, which

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Speaker 3: is the Watch Party.

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Speaker 1: We're going to link that in the show notes.

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Speaker 3: And that's going to be unpacking all of the finale

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Speaker 3: in detail, the Ultimate Girls Group Chat, and you should

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Speaker 3: go and listen to it. Thank you very much, guys.

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Speaker 2: Thanks bye,