1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,064 Speaker 1: So much. You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma 2 00:00:15,144 --> 00:00:18,824 Speaker 1: Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that 3 00:00:18,904 --> 00:00:26,744 Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to 4 00:00:26,784 --> 00:00:29,744 Speaker 1: the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney 5 00:00:29,784 --> 00:00:32,544 Speaker 1: and I'm m Murnham and coming up on the show today. Oh, 6 00:00:32,584 --> 00:00:35,264 Speaker 1: we have so much to talk about Zoe Kravitz and 7 00:00:35,384 --> 00:00:38,304 Speaker 1: Channing Tatum's new movie. Should we even be calling it that? 8 00:00:38,424 --> 00:00:40,224 Speaker 1: Probably not? Em and I have seen the movie and 9 00:00:40,304 --> 00:00:43,064 Speaker 1: we have some wild thoughts about God what led up 10 00:00:43,064 --> 00:00:46,144 Speaker 1: to this moment. We also have a bunch of sexy 11 00:00:46,184 --> 00:00:48,264 Speaker 1: new celebrity hookups that we need to talk about and 12 00:00:48,304 --> 00:00:50,344 Speaker 1: why they're being labeled in a particular way. 13 00:00:50,864 --> 00:00:55,184 Speaker 2: But first, Chapel Roone has posted two tiktoks to her account. 14 00:00:55,424 --> 00:00:58,784 Speaker 2: Both of them have now reached over two million views, 15 00:00:58,784 --> 00:01:00,944 Speaker 2: so big videos are going viral. We might have seen 16 00:01:00,984 --> 00:01:04,384 Speaker 2: them over your Twitter feed TikTok feed. In the first one, 17 00:01:04,544 --> 00:01:05,744 Speaker 2: she says. 18 00:01:05,944 --> 00:01:07,464 Speaker 3: Just answer my questions for a second. 19 00:01:07,624 --> 00:01:10,024 Speaker 4: If you saw a random woman on the street, would 20 00:01:10,064 --> 00:01:11,424 Speaker 4: you her from the car window? 21 00:01:11,984 --> 00:01:13,384 Speaker 3: Would you harass her in public? 22 00:01:13,664 --> 00:01:16,264 Speaker 5: Would you go up to a random lady and say 23 00:01:16,304 --> 00:01:18,744 Speaker 5: can I get a photo with you? And she's like no, 24 00:01:19,064 --> 00:01:22,264 Speaker 5: what the fuck? And then you get mad at this 25 00:01:22,344 --> 00:01:24,224 Speaker 5: random lady. 26 00:01:24,384 --> 00:01:29,464 Speaker 4: Would you be offended if she says no to your 27 00:01:29,624 --> 00:01:33,984 Speaker 4: time because she has her own time. Would you stalk 28 00:01:33,984 --> 00:01:39,104 Speaker 4: her family? Would you follow her around? Would you try 29 00:01:39,104 --> 00:01:42,184 Speaker 4: to dissect her life and bully her online? This is 30 00:01:42,224 --> 00:01:44,544 Speaker 4: a lady who don't know and she doesn't know you 31 00:01:44,624 --> 00:01:47,744 Speaker 4: at all. Would you assume that she's a good person. 32 00:01:47,824 --> 00:01:50,464 Speaker 4: Assume she's a bad person. Would you assume everything you 33 00:01:50,504 --> 00:01:54,504 Speaker 4: read about her online is true? I'm a random bitch. 34 00:01:55,304 --> 00:01:58,424 Speaker 4: You're a random bitch. Just think about that for a second. 35 00:01:58,544 --> 00:01:58,944 Speaker 5: Okay. 36 00:01:59,304 --> 00:02:01,864 Speaker 2: And in the second video, she's more direct. She says, 37 00:02:02,064 --> 00:02:02,584 Speaker 2: I don't. 38 00:02:02,424 --> 00:02:09,064 Speaker 3: Care that abuse and harassment, stalking, whatever is a normal 39 00:02:09,104 --> 00:02:14,304 Speaker 3: thing to do two people who are famous or a 40 00:02:14,344 --> 00:02:15,264 Speaker 3: little famous whatever. 41 00:02:15,424 --> 00:02:18,184 Speaker 4: I don't care that it's normal. I don't care that 42 00:02:18,984 --> 00:02:23,224 Speaker 4: this crazy type of behavior comes along with the job, 43 00:02:23,424 --> 00:02:26,904 Speaker 4: the career field I've chosen. That does not make it. Okay, 44 00:02:27,064 --> 00:02:29,944 Speaker 4: that doesn't mean normal. I don't It doesn't mean I want. 45 00:02:29,944 --> 00:02:34,184 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that I like it. I don't want whatever. 46 00:02:33,784 --> 00:02:34,984 Speaker 5: The fuck you think. 47 00:02:36,384 --> 00:02:39,464 Speaker 4: You're supposed to be entitled to whenever you see a celebrity. 48 00:02:39,584 --> 00:02:42,104 Speaker 2: If you watch both these videos, but I just felt 49 00:02:42,104 --> 00:02:47,344 Speaker 2: deeply sad. You can tell that she's so upset, and 50 00:02:47,424 --> 00:02:50,544 Speaker 2: the way the videos are filmed and posted, it looks 51 00:02:50,584 --> 00:02:53,944 Speaker 2: as if there wasn't like much preparation or thought put 52 00:02:54,024 --> 00:02:56,544 Speaker 2: into it. It's like this has all been building up. 53 00:02:56,584 --> 00:02:58,464 Speaker 2: We know that she's talked about stalking in the past 54 00:02:58,504 --> 00:03:00,824 Speaker 2: and people like following his sister at work a family 55 00:03:00,904 --> 00:03:03,984 Speaker 2: and then she said publicly that if stalking ever became 56 00:03:04,024 --> 00:03:06,544 Speaker 2: an issue, she just quit, and you can tell that 57 00:03:06,584 --> 00:03:08,024 Speaker 2: she's kind of getting that. So it looks like a 58 00:03:08,024 --> 00:03:10,504 Speaker 2: lot of things have been bubbling for a while. But 59 00:03:10,704 --> 00:03:12,984 Speaker 2: I feel like from watching these videos as a viewer, 60 00:03:13,064 --> 00:03:15,984 Speaker 2: that something big has happened and she just had enough 61 00:03:16,064 --> 00:03:19,184 Speaker 2: and just posted those videos straight up. She turned the 62 00:03:19,184 --> 00:03:22,104 Speaker 2: comments off, which I think is completely fair, but obviously 63 00:03:22,144 --> 00:03:25,584 Speaker 2: publications have been talking about it. Majority of the commentary 64 00:03:25,664 --> 00:03:28,424 Speaker 2: around it from her fans have been just people being 65 00:03:28,504 --> 00:03:31,424 Speaker 2: genuinely concerned about her health and well being, which is 66 00:03:31,464 --> 00:03:33,504 Speaker 2: so fair. It feels like she's in a place where 67 00:03:33,544 --> 00:03:36,664 Speaker 2: she's really scared right now, and I don't think I've 68 00:03:36,704 --> 00:03:40,464 Speaker 2: seen a celebrity just completely address it head on on 69 00:03:40,544 --> 00:03:43,024 Speaker 2: their own accounts, and I feel like since she has 70 00:03:43,064 --> 00:03:44,744 Speaker 2: done that, something big must have happened. 71 00:03:44,984 --> 00:03:46,944 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And I know we touched on this back 72 00:03:46,944 --> 00:03:49,984 Speaker 1: when she was doing some interviews talking about the stalking 73 00:03:50,064 --> 00:03:52,504 Speaker 1: and how intense it had become for her family, and 74 00:03:52,544 --> 00:03:54,104 Speaker 1: I saidt the time, But I think it's even more 75 00:03:54,104 --> 00:03:56,184 Speaker 1: true now, is that I've never seen a celebrity. I know, 76 00:03:56,224 --> 00:03:58,184 Speaker 1: she's been famous for quite a while and she's had 77 00:03:58,184 --> 00:04:01,024 Speaker 1: like a really lengthy career, but she has really blown 78 00:04:01,104 --> 00:04:03,224 Speaker 1: up to a different level of fame now and is 79 00:04:03,304 --> 00:04:07,304 Speaker 1: much more internationally recognizable. And I've never seen a celebrity 80 00:04:07,384 --> 00:04:10,504 Speaker 1: be hit so hard and so intensely with the bad 81 00:04:10,544 --> 00:04:12,944 Speaker 1: side of fame. You know, this is usually like the 82 00:04:12,984 --> 00:04:14,744 Speaker 1: part where all of a sudden, like you're getting all 83 00:04:14,744 --> 00:04:16,784 Speaker 1: this extra attention, and she's been brought onto all these 84 00:04:16,824 --> 00:04:19,984 Speaker 1: talk shows and people are buying her music and everyone's 85 00:04:19,984 --> 00:04:21,824 Speaker 1: posting about how much they love her, and you have 86 00:04:21,864 --> 00:04:23,864 Speaker 1: all these other big styles like Adele talking about how 87 00:04:23,944 --> 00:04:26,224 Speaker 1: Chapel Roone is like the future of music and this 88 00:04:26,264 --> 00:04:28,544 Speaker 1: should be the high this should be the moment before 89 00:04:28,584 --> 00:04:31,304 Speaker 1: it comes crashing down, And the fact that she's already 90 00:04:31,384 --> 00:04:33,824 Speaker 1: had so much of the negative and the bad side. 91 00:04:34,104 --> 00:04:36,264 Speaker 1: I think is quite telling of how like when you 92 00:04:36,344 --> 00:04:39,864 Speaker 1: have this level of viral fame, how intense people can 93 00:04:39,904 --> 00:04:42,104 Speaker 1: turn to the bad side of it. And also I 94 00:04:42,104 --> 00:04:44,464 Speaker 1: guess she's someone who's been so used to being able 95 00:04:44,504 --> 00:04:46,184 Speaker 1: to go in like selling out a concert or knowing 96 00:04:46,224 --> 00:04:48,664 Speaker 1: that people are stoming her music, but not being recognizable 97 00:04:48,784 --> 00:04:51,264 Speaker 1: enough that she could go out in public without people 98 00:04:51,304 --> 00:04:53,984 Speaker 1: attacking her. And I just, I honestly do wonder how 99 00:04:54,104 --> 00:04:56,744 Speaker 1: long she's going to stay in the fame game if 100 00:04:56,784 --> 00:04:59,224 Speaker 1: she's already this burnt out at this stage of it, 101 00:04:59,384 --> 00:05:01,584 Speaker 1: Like I do kind of worry that she'll just disappear 102 00:05:01,624 --> 00:05:03,144 Speaker 1: and we'll have no more Chapel Moron music. 103 00:05:03,264 --> 00:05:06,664 Speaker 2: It's a very scary case study of overnight success, especially 104 00:05:06,704 --> 00:05:10,624 Speaker 2: because she's such a visual celebrity. I feel like when 105 00:05:10,664 --> 00:05:13,864 Speaker 2: you hear Chapel Rone, you immediately picture what she looks like. 106 00:05:14,024 --> 00:05:17,864 Speaker 2: She goes all out with her outfits. She it's like 107 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:20,344 Speaker 2: kind of like what Lady Gaga was, right, Like, I 108 00:05:20,384 --> 00:05:22,744 Speaker 2: feel like when Lady Gaga first got famous, And I'm 109 00:05:22,744 --> 00:05:25,424 Speaker 2: thinking about my parents' generation on how they know these celebrities, 110 00:05:25,784 --> 00:05:28,104 Speaker 2: and they would probably know Lady Gaga for her crazy 111 00:05:28,104 --> 00:05:30,664 Speaker 2: outfits before they know her music, before they know like 112 00:05:30,704 --> 00:05:33,264 Speaker 2: the movie she's been in before, like her interviews, And 113 00:05:33,304 --> 00:05:35,744 Speaker 2: I feel like with a lot of people who haven't 114 00:05:35,784 --> 00:05:39,144 Speaker 2: been following Chapel Rone's music career, that's the same thing. 115 00:05:39,544 --> 00:05:42,464 Speaker 2: So it's the fact that she's actually getting recognized visually 116 00:05:42,624 --> 00:05:45,064 Speaker 2: before like her music and stuff now, which is probably 117 00:05:45,104 --> 00:05:47,384 Speaker 2: just like ten times worse, yeah, instead of like a 118 00:05:47,424 --> 00:05:49,904 Speaker 2: gradual celebrity like uplift them. 119 00:05:50,104 --> 00:05:50,304 Speaker 3: Yeah. 120 00:05:50,424 --> 00:05:52,424 Speaker 1: But what is even creepier about the situation now that 121 00:05:52,424 --> 00:05:55,184 Speaker 1: you're saying, like she's so visually recognizable, which is true, 122 00:05:55,224 --> 00:05:56,944 Speaker 1: but like that's when she's all done up in her 123 00:05:57,024 --> 00:06:00,024 Speaker 1: Chapel roone persona, like what's her real name, Kayley, when 124 00:06:00,024 --> 00:06:03,024 Speaker 1: she's in her full Chapel roone outfit, Like, yeah, she's 125 00:06:03,104 --> 00:06:05,944 Speaker 1: very recognizable, but she's referencing in her past interviews and 126 00:06:05,984 --> 00:06:08,704 Speaker 1: in these videos people following her down the street, following 127 00:06:08,704 --> 00:06:10,944 Speaker 1: her to the grocery store, following her home, and I'm 128 00:06:10,944 --> 00:06:14,504 Speaker 1: assuming she's not decked out in her crazy gorgeous, colorful, 129 00:06:14,584 --> 00:06:17,304 Speaker 1: glittery stage outfits when she's walking down to the shops, 130 00:06:17,304 --> 00:06:19,264 Speaker 1: which means that these people who are screaming at car 131 00:06:19,304 --> 00:06:23,184 Speaker 1: windows and stuff at her. She's become so recognizable in 132 00:06:23,224 --> 00:06:26,624 Speaker 1: her off duty playing clothes, which I think is even 133 00:06:26,664 --> 00:06:28,464 Speaker 1: more terrifying because I've got to say, like, I have 134 00:06:28,504 --> 00:06:29,944 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time looking at Chapel Roone and 135 00:06:29,984 --> 00:06:32,104 Speaker 1: watching her videos and her outfits, but I don't think 136 00:06:32,104 --> 00:06:33,664 Speaker 1: if she walked past me on the street, I would 137 00:06:33,664 --> 00:06:36,064 Speaker 1: recognize her. But it just goes to show that is 138 00:06:36,104 --> 00:06:37,904 Speaker 1: that how intense these people are now that if she's 139 00:06:37,944 --> 00:06:39,784 Speaker 1: got a jacket and a cap on and she's walking 140 00:06:39,824 --> 00:06:41,824 Speaker 1: with her head out and they still know it's her. 141 00:06:42,024 --> 00:06:45,624 Speaker 2: And it's also the fact that she's mainly social media famous, 142 00:06:46,024 --> 00:06:47,744 Speaker 2: and we have talked about when we talked about her 143 00:06:47,784 --> 00:06:50,544 Speaker 2: stalking in the past, was that people who are, especially 144 00:06:50,584 --> 00:06:53,904 Speaker 2: as social media and trend famous, are necessarily rich famous. 145 00:06:54,144 --> 00:06:56,664 Speaker 2: So it's like seeing someone have like all of these 146 00:06:56,704 --> 00:06:59,704 Speaker 2: like stalking issues, like fans coming up to her, but 147 00:06:59,824 --> 00:07:01,864 Speaker 2: not having the means to be able to protect herself 148 00:07:01,904 --> 00:07:04,424 Speaker 2: to someone of a higher status like a Taylor Swift. Yeah, 149 00:07:04,464 --> 00:07:06,344 Speaker 2: And I feel like that's what's really scary, that she 150 00:07:06,344 --> 00:07:08,024 Speaker 2: has to take it in her own hands exactly. 151 00:07:08,104 --> 00:07:10,224 Speaker 1: And as we know, a lot of cases police can't 152 00:07:10,224 --> 00:07:13,064 Speaker 1: do anything with just like threats or comments and stuff. 153 00:07:13,104 --> 00:07:14,744 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people in this situation say the 154 00:07:14,784 --> 00:07:16,664 Speaker 1: same thing that you sometimes have to wait for someone 155 00:07:16,744 --> 00:07:18,224 Speaker 1: to make a move against you, all wait for some 156 00:07:18,264 --> 00:07:20,424 Speaker 1: sort of evidence. You can't just say like that car 157 00:07:20,464 --> 00:07:22,544 Speaker 1: has been following me. And when she was saying like 158 00:07:22,744 --> 00:07:24,824 Speaker 1: if stalking is not okay, made me think of all 159 00:07:24,824 --> 00:07:27,944 Speaker 1: these viral quotes from past celebrities, like someone like a 160 00:07:28,064 --> 00:07:31,344 Speaker 1: Ciena Miller, who you know two decades ago, said if 161 00:07:31,344 --> 00:07:34,104 Speaker 1: a bunch of men were chasing me through the backstreets, 162 00:07:34,104 --> 00:07:36,104 Speaker 1: that would be illegal, but because they've got cameras and 163 00:07:36,104 --> 00:07:38,664 Speaker 1: I'm famous, it's okay. And I think the same thing 164 00:07:38,664 --> 00:07:40,264 Speaker 1: with her, like if she went to the police and said, 165 00:07:40,264 --> 00:07:41,984 Speaker 1: this group of people are following me in a car, 166 00:07:42,704 --> 00:07:45,584 Speaker 1: it's okay because she's famous, But if she wasn't. I mean, look, 167 00:07:45,584 --> 00:07:47,864 Speaker 1: they probably still wouldn't do anything even if she wasn't famous, 168 00:07:47,864 --> 00:07:50,584 Speaker 1: But it gives people a reason to be around you. 169 00:07:50,864 --> 00:07:52,984 Speaker 2: I think it's only if she's able to have the 170 00:07:53,024 --> 00:07:56,264 Speaker 2: means to put proper like safety networks around her herself, 171 00:07:56,304 --> 00:07:59,344 Speaker 2: a family, and a friend, then I just feel like 172 00:07:59,384 --> 00:08:02,224 Speaker 2: this could be kind of a look into what happens 173 00:08:02,224 --> 00:08:04,984 Speaker 2: to a celebrity when they actually say they're going to 174 00:08:05,024 --> 00:08:07,584 Speaker 2: step back, because I feel like people just want more 175 00:08:07,624 --> 00:08:10,264 Speaker 2: from her, and I don't think we'll get it anytime soon. 176 00:08:10,544 --> 00:08:15,984 Speaker 3: Nan, everybody's dead. How about we start at the beginning. 177 00:08:16,664 --> 00:08:19,104 Speaker 1: Jazz Frida, this is my childhood buddy. 178 00:08:18,904 --> 00:08:22,064 Speaker 2: And Cody's I beg my left and right hand man. 179 00:08:23,384 --> 00:08:23,824 Speaker 4: Perfect. 180 00:08:24,864 --> 00:08:27,544 Speaker 2: Hey, all right, who did this? 181 00:08:27,544 --> 00:08:28,184 Speaker 4: This is Freedom? 182 00:08:28,264 --> 00:08:33,224 Speaker 1: Sarah Sarah Freedom Hens, thank you. It's a resident wonder Boy. 183 00:08:34,024 --> 00:08:36,984 Speaker 1: Heather Camella. What's up? 184 00:08:36,984 --> 00:08:37,144 Speaker 3: Man? 185 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:38,984 Speaker 1: I don't know who that is. 186 00:08:39,584 --> 00:08:41,144 Speaker 2: We're going to my island for a few days. 187 00:08:41,304 --> 00:08:45,864 Speaker 1: Do you guys want to come? This is crazy? 188 00:08:46,624 --> 00:08:48,464 Speaker 2: Do we just jet off to a billionaire's island with 189 00:08:48,464 --> 00:08:49,304 Speaker 2: a bunch of strangers. 190 00:08:49,584 --> 00:08:52,224 Speaker 1: He's not a stranger, he's Blayler King. So do you 191 00:08:52,224 --> 00:08:56,344 Speaker 1: think the human sacrifices before or after dinners? So this 192 00:08:56,464 --> 00:08:59,304 Speaker 1: week you and I went to a very fun, fancy 193 00:08:59,544 --> 00:09:02,384 Speaker 1: movie premiere for the movie Blink Twice. And if you're 194 00:09:02,424 --> 00:09:05,064 Speaker 1: hearing that title and it doesn't mean anything to you, 195 00:09:05,144 --> 00:09:07,784 Speaker 1: there's a reason for that. Because it is a new 196 00:09:07,824 --> 00:09:11,184 Speaker 1: movie that was co written and directed by Zoe Kravitz. 197 00:09:11,264 --> 00:09:13,624 Speaker 1: It's the first time she's directed a movie and starring, 198 00:09:13,744 --> 00:09:16,624 Speaker 1: of course, Channing Tatum a BF yes oh on al 199 00:09:16,624 --> 00:09:21,024 Speaker 1: fiance fonce a celebrity pairing. I did not see Going 200 00:09:21,024 --> 00:09:23,304 Speaker 1: the Distance, but they seem very crazy in love. 201 00:09:23,424 --> 00:09:26,384 Speaker 2: I still remember that first photo of them on the bike. Yeah, 202 00:09:28,064 --> 00:09:30,064 Speaker 2: it feels like it was only yesterday, but I think 203 00:09:30,104 --> 00:09:31,064 Speaker 2: it was ages ago. 204 00:09:31,104 --> 00:09:32,224 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, over two years ago. 205 00:09:32,304 --> 00:09:34,544 Speaker 2: Now that means this movie has been in the making 206 00:09:34,584 --> 00:09:35,504 Speaker 2: for a long. 207 00:09:35,304 --> 00:09:37,784 Speaker 1: Time, for nearly a decade. Actually, the first time Zoe 208 00:09:37,904 --> 00:09:40,544 Speaker 1: Kravitz said that she was wanting to write a movie 209 00:09:40,544 --> 00:09:42,864 Speaker 1: and direct it. Yeah. That's what's interesting at this is 210 00:09:42,864 --> 00:09:44,504 Speaker 1: that every time I said to people like, oh, we're 211 00:09:44,504 --> 00:09:46,744 Speaker 1: gonna see Blink twice or wanting to talk about it 212 00:09:46,744 --> 00:09:49,184 Speaker 1: and maybe like the name will become more recognizable this 213 00:09:49,264 --> 00:09:51,504 Speaker 1: week because they're doing a lot of press for it. 214 00:09:51,584 --> 00:09:53,664 Speaker 1: So Zoe and Channing are on the red carpet together, 215 00:09:53,784 --> 00:09:56,024 Speaker 1: Letting Kravats her dad came to one of the premieres. 216 00:09:56,384 --> 00:09:58,264 Speaker 1: They were at a Taylor Swift concert and people were 217 00:09:58,264 --> 00:10:00,024 Speaker 1: talking about their movie. So I think the name will 218 00:10:00,064 --> 00:10:02,504 Speaker 1: become a bit more prevalent. But a lot of people 219 00:10:02,544 --> 00:10:05,064 Speaker 1: have just been calling it the Zoe Kravitz Channing Tatum 220 00:10:05,064 --> 00:10:07,664 Speaker 1: movie I know I have, which I kind of feel 221 00:10:07,704 --> 00:10:09,744 Speaker 1: like when you actually see the movie, which we'll get 222 00:10:09,744 --> 00:10:12,544 Speaker 1: into it, like, holy hell, it should not be called that. 223 00:10:12,584 --> 00:10:14,984 Speaker 1: There's so many other moving parts here, but anyone wants 224 00:10:14,984 --> 00:10:18,424 Speaker 1: her name, well that movie. The movie was originally called 225 00:10:18,544 --> 00:10:20,904 Speaker 1: Pussy Island, and that's what it was called for many 226 00:10:20,984 --> 00:10:23,344 Speaker 1: years during its development, when it was sold, when they 227 00:10:23,344 --> 00:10:26,544 Speaker 1: wrote the script, even all during filming, and Zoi Kravitz 228 00:10:26,544 --> 00:10:28,664 Speaker 1: has said that, like when she first had the idea 229 00:10:28,824 --> 00:10:30,504 Speaker 1: of this movie, because she co wrote the script, but 230 00:10:30,584 --> 00:10:32,344 Speaker 1: she kind of came up with the idea. She just 231 00:10:32,384 --> 00:10:34,264 Speaker 1: wrote down a piece of paper Pussy Island, and that 232 00:10:34,344 --> 00:10:37,104 Speaker 1: was the seed of the movie. And then they shot 233 00:10:37,104 --> 00:10:39,224 Speaker 1: it and it got funding and all this stuff happened. 234 00:10:39,624 --> 00:10:42,624 Speaker 1: But then she was told that the wood pussy was 235 00:10:42,664 --> 00:10:45,464 Speaker 1: going to basically create so many roadbos to the movie 236 00:10:45,504 --> 00:10:48,784 Speaker 1: being distributed. So in an interview with Entertainment Weekly, she 237 00:10:48,904 --> 00:10:51,064 Speaker 1: was saying that as a society, we're just not ready 238 00:10:51,064 --> 00:10:54,304 Speaker 1: to embrace that word. And she was told that there 239 00:10:54,304 --> 00:10:56,864 Speaker 1: would be trouble with the people who give ratings to 240 00:10:56,904 --> 00:10:59,824 Speaker 1: movies not letting it go through, and some cinemas might 241 00:10:59,904 --> 00:11:02,784 Speaker 1: not want it to play in their in their businesses, 242 00:11:02,824 --> 00:11:04,864 Speaker 1: which means that you're like very quickly cutting out a 243 00:11:04,944 --> 00:11:07,784 Speaker 1: huge amount of audiences if you're messing with the distribution 244 00:11:07,864 --> 00:11:10,144 Speaker 1: of a movie like that. But even during that, she 245 00:11:10,264 --> 00:11:13,624 Speaker 1: was still pushing forward to have Pussy Island be the movie, 246 00:11:13,624 --> 00:11:16,464 Speaker 1: and she was like, I'm not budging on this because 247 00:11:16,584 --> 00:11:18,904 Speaker 1: I want to reclaim that word and I think it's important, 248 00:11:18,944 --> 00:11:20,904 Speaker 1: and this is what I wanted this movie to be. 249 00:11:21,224 --> 00:11:22,904 Speaker 1: But then what did change her mind is a lot 250 00:11:22,944 --> 00:11:25,944 Speaker 1: of women she found was saying that they found that 251 00:11:25,984 --> 00:11:28,544 Speaker 1: word derogatory or they weren't going to see it, and 252 00:11:28,584 --> 00:11:31,544 Speaker 1: then she realized that she was essentially cutting out the 253 00:11:31,584 --> 00:11:34,584 Speaker 1: audience she made the movie for, and so they called 254 00:11:34,584 --> 00:11:37,464 Speaker 1: it Blink Twice, which I still like Pussy Island better, 255 00:11:37,504 --> 00:11:38,864 Speaker 1: but I understand I. 256 00:11:38,864 --> 00:11:41,944 Speaker 2: Like Blink Twice better, not for any of the reasons 257 00:11:41,984 --> 00:11:45,184 Speaker 2: that you listed, but after watching the film, because I 258 00:11:45,184 --> 00:11:46,944 Speaker 2: only found out it was meant to be called Pussy 259 00:11:46,944 --> 00:11:49,824 Speaker 2: Island after watching it right, and then after watching it, 260 00:11:49,864 --> 00:11:52,144 Speaker 2: I felt like if it was called pussy Island, it 261 00:11:52,224 --> 00:11:53,184 Speaker 2: might allude to. 262 00:11:53,904 --> 00:11:57,424 Speaker 1: It, be like with sexy romp or a twist in the. 263 00:11:57,304 --> 00:11:59,944 Speaker 2: Movie that is so shocking, and I felt like if 264 00:11:59,984 --> 00:12:02,104 Speaker 2: it was named Pussy Island, you would catch on to 265 00:12:02,184 --> 00:12:02,584 Speaker 2: that twist. 266 00:12:02,664 --> 00:12:04,224 Speaker 1: Quicker, Yeah, absolutely, and. 267 00:12:04,184 --> 00:12:06,344 Speaker 2: With Blink twice. I just didn't catch on to the 268 00:12:06,344 --> 00:12:09,824 Speaker 2: twist until it actually happened, and it has messed me up. 269 00:12:09,864 --> 00:12:11,904 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, that messed me up. 270 00:12:12,064 --> 00:12:13,984 Speaker 1: So the movie's coming out this Thursday. We went to 271 00:12:14,064 --> 00:12:16,864 Speaker 1: the premiere on Tuesday night, and I've got to say everyone, 272 00:12:16,864 --> 00:12:18,784 Speaker 1: it was very luxy. It was like a smaller premiere 273 00:12:18,784 --> 00:12:20,744 Speaker 1: than normals. It was a select group. It was okay. 274 00:12:20,784 --> 00:12:22,984 Speaker 2: I just want to say that I personally got invited 275 00:12:22,984 --> 00:12:24,824 Speaker 2: to get invited, and it was one of the best 276 00:12:24,824 --> 00:12:25,544 Speaker 2: ones I went to. 277 00:12:26,384 --> 00:12:29,544 Speaker 1: You got invited as a standalone entertainment person. Well done. 278 00:12:29,704 --> 00:12:31,944 Speaker 1: The imitation said the good dress Cob was to wear 279 00:12:32,024 --> 00:12:32,824 Speaker 1: all white. 280 00:12:32,584 --> 00:12:34,904 Speaker 2: Which I did. I understood the brief and I followed. 281 00:12:34,984 --> 00:12:36,504 Speaker 1: I wore a white shirt, but I also wore a 282 00:12:36,504 --> 00:12:38,624 Speaker 1: black jacket because I was really jetlags. I couldn't figure 283 00:12:38,624 --> 00:12:40,264 Speaker 1: out what I was going on anyway. So you got 284 00:12:40,264 --> 00:12:44,384 Speaker 1: to this party. Everyone's in white. There's champagne everywhere, literally 285 00:12:44,424 --> 00:12:47,384 Speaker 1: flowing with raspberries floating in it. This will all make 286 00:12:47,424 --> 00:12:49,744 Speaker 1: sense soon. They handed us these flowers to put in 287 00:12:49,744 --> 00:12:52,824 Speaker 1: our heair. There's candles everywhere. It was so luxy. 288 00:12:52,864 --> 00:12:54,104 Speaker 2: We got a ready gift bag. 289 00:12:54,344 --> 00:12:57,464 Speaker 1: Yes stuff. Members are walking around getting photos really close 290 00:12:57,464 --> 00:12:58,104 Speaker 1: of our faces. 291 00:12:58,584 --> 00:13:01,264 Speaker 2: Like this scared me because I bought my sister with 292 00:13:01,304 --> 00:13:02,944 Speaker 2: me because I want the show off. How I got 293 00:13:02,944 --> 00:13:06,744 Speaker 2: invited to this beautiful event and we were talking and 294 00:13:06,984 --> 00:13:08,584 Speaker 2: I think we went to get drinks and you were 295 00:13:08,624 --> 00:13:10,904 Speaker 2: talking with some other people in the industry, and I 296 00:13:10,944 --> 00:13:12,984 Speaker 2: was just like on my own trip. And then these 297 00:13:13,024 --> 00:13:15,184 Speaker 2: two staff members, one was holding this big bowl and 298 00:13:15,184 --> 00:13:17,584 Speaker 2: one was holding a Polaroid camera just came up to 299 00:13:17,624 --> 00:13:19,144 Speaker 2: me and my sister and like put a camera right 300 00:13:19,224 --> 00:13:21,944 Speaker 2: in her face and took a photo like dead pan. 301 00:13:22,064 --> 00:13:24,744 Speaker 2: They weren't making any like emotion too faces. And then 302 00:13:24,784 --> 00:13:26,464 Speaker 2: he just took the photo and put it in the bowl. 303 00:13:26,864 --> 00:13:28,864 Speaker 2: And then she was like, now look terrified, and I 304 00:13:28,904 --> 00:13:30,504 Speaker 2: was like what And that's I was like saying, what 305 00:13:30,704 --> 00:13:33,064 Speaker 2: he took another photo, like right up close to my face. 306 00:13:33,224 --> 00:13:35,504 Speaker 2: I've got the photos. We'll post it on It'll post 307 00:13:35,544 --> 00:13:37,224 Speaker 2: it on that Instagram because that's so funny. 308 00:13:37,304 --> 00:13:39,344 Speaker 1: Well, that's the power of this movie and Obviously we're 309 00:13:39,344 --> 00:13:41,424 Speaker 1: not going to give any spoilers here, but we went 310 00:13:41,464 --> 00:13:43,624 Speaker 1: into the cinema. They had these crazy like fruit and 311 00:13:43,664 --> 00:13:45,584 Speaker 1: cheese platters and wine. It was also fancy and it 312 00:13:45,624 --> 00:13:48,064 Speaker 1: was so funny. How walking in I found that party 313 00:13:48,184 --> 00:13:51,264 Speaker 1: so fancy and so fun and walking out after watching 314 00:13:51,304 --> 00:13:53,744 Speaker 1: the movie, looking at the candles and the wine and everything, 315 00:13:53,744 --> 00:13:55,704 Speaker 1: it made me feel sick, which is the whole point 316 00:13:55,704 --> 00:13:57,664 Speaker 1: of it, of how something can be so lux and 317 00:13:57,704 --> 00:14:00,304 Speaker 1: so dangerous under the surface. So to get into like 318 00:14:00,384 --> 00:14:03,184 Speaker 1: a little bit of the movie, obviously no spoilers, but 319 00:14:03,504 --> 00:14:07,864 Speaker 1: it's about this cocktail waitress called Frieda played by Naomi Aki, 320 00:14:07,904 --> 00:14:12,424 Speaker 1: who was unbelievable. I was saying that last night to everyone. 321 00:14:12,424 --> 00:14:14,144 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not even joking. Give her an oscar 322 00:14:14,344 --> 00:14:16,784 Speaker 1: and also brilliant nominate Channing Tatum because he. 323 00:14:16,864 --> 00:14:18,904 Speaker 2: Is quite good enough him in a serious role. 324 00:14:19,024 --> 00:14:21,144 Speaker 1: Oh, even then, the movie is so disturbing, I can 325 00:14:21,224 --> 00:14:23,824 Speaker 1: kind of see how they felt it because you get 326 00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:26,624 Speaker 1: to see that we're just like in this creative, powerfulce together. Anyway, 327 00:14:26,704 --> 00:14:29,984 Speaker 1: so Frieda and her best friend Jess played by Alia 328 00:14:30,064 --> 00:14:33,584 Speaker 1: Shorcat also brilliant the casting of this movie. That's the 329 00:14:33,664 --> 00:14:35,584 Speaker 1: other reason I find it when people are calling it 330 00:14:35,624 --> 00:14:38,024 Speaker 1: the Zoli Kravitz Channing Tatum movie feels like a bit 331 00:14:38,024 --> 00:14:40,504 Speaker 1: of a disservice to this cast, because. 332 00:14:40,304 --> 00:14:42,584 Speaker 2: Especially the leading women in that yeah movie, because it. 333 00:14:42,544 --> 00:14:44,904 Speaker 1: Is about these two women, it's their story really well 334 00:14:44,904 --> 00:14:47,384 Speaker 1: three riomen because Alia's shortcat and then also we've got 335 00:14:47,704 --> 00:14:51,384 Speaker 1: Adria a Jonah who plays Sarah Wholeso brilliant, brilliant. You 336 00:14:51,424 --> 00:14:53,584 Speaker 1: get introduced to the cast very quickly of the people 337 00:14:53,584 --> 00:14:55,504 Speaker 1: who are going to go this island. So Frida is 338 00:14:55,504 --> 00:14:59,264 Speaker 1: his cocktail waitress. She meets Slater King, who's played by Channing. 339 00:14:58,944 --> 00:15:02,264 Speaker 2: Stan King is such a YouTube yeah, like they've done that. 340 00:15:02,184 --> 00:15:04,184 Speaker 1: Brilliant, but he's like a billionaire tech bro and that 341 00:15:04,264 --> 00:15:07,144 Speaker 1: would be his name, who invites her and her friend 342 00:15:07,224 --> 00:15:09,704 Speaker 1: Jess along with this group of like fabulous young people 343 00:15:09,704 --> 00:15:11,424 Speaker 1: who are all gone going off to this island that 344 00:15:11,464 --> 00:15:14,424 Speaker 1: he owns to have a luxe vacation. And they go 345 00:15:14,584 --> 00:15:16,344 Speaker 1: and at first it seems too good to be true, 346 00:15:16,344 --> 00:15:19,024 Speaker 1: like the party we went to, it's champagne, it's flowers, 347 00:15:19,064 --> 00:15:22,184 Speaker 1: everyone's wearing white. And then things quickly take a turn 348 00:15:22,264 --> 00:15:24,224 Speaker 1: and you realize that things are not as they seem 349 00:15:24,264 --> 00:15:28,224 Speaker 1: and what's happening behind the scenes is just so horrifically disturbing. 350 00:15:28,544 --> 00:15:30,784 Speaker 1: But the cast here, you've got, along with Channing and 351 00:15:30,864 --> 00:15:33,624 Speaker 1: Naomi and Alia, you've got Christian Slater. I saw him 352 00:15:33,624 --> 00:15:36,144 Speaker 1: and I screamed love him. Carl McLaughlin. Of course he's 353 00:15:36,144 --> 00:15:38,384 Speaker 1: always in the mix. Haale Joel Osmond. Did you notice him? 354 00:15:38,384 --> 00:15:40,104 Speaker 1: He's obviously done a lot more stuff, but people still 355 00:15:40,104 --> 00:15:41,504 Speaker 1: know him as the kid from the sixth Sense. 356 00:15:41,784 --> 00:15:43,104 Speaker 4: I stand people. 357 00:15:43,384 --> 00:15:44,944 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I did not know that. 358 00:15:45,104 --> 00:15:47,064 Speaker 2: No, but yeah, oh my god, he's the one who 359 00:15:47,064 --> 00:15:50,264 Speaker 2: gets Yeah, I did not put that together. 360 00:15:50,584 --> 00:15:52,784 Speaker 1: And then also Gina Davis, like, it's this whole kind 361 00:15:52,864 --> 00:15:55,544 Speaker 1: of Yeah, such an all star cast, and I can't 362 00:15:55,544 --> 00:15:56,984 Speaker 1: stop thinking about this movie. 363 00:15:57,104 --> 00:15:59,224 Speaker 2: I found the ending empowering. 364 00:15:59,944 --> 00:16:03,064 Speaker 1: Really yeah, I und of disturbing. That's two different, but yeah, 365 00:16:03,064 --> 00:16:03,664 Speaker 1: it's so weird. 366 00:16:03,704 --> 00:16:05,504 Speaker 2: But when we got back home and I was sitting 367 00:16:05,584 --> 00:16:09,064 Speaker 2: alone in my apartment and still sleeped aprive from the logies, Yeah, 368 00:16:09,104 --> 00:16:13,624 Speaker 2: and thinking about some of the scenes in that film, 369 00:16:13,984 --> 00:16:18,064 Speaker 2: I was like disturbed, like I felt sick. I wouldn't 370 00:16:18,064 --> 00:16:21,064 Speaker 2: call it horror, I'd call it like a thriller. Thriller, 371 00:16:21,144 --> 00:16:24,224 Speaker 2: but super violent, yeah, and a bit sickening, but it 372 00:16:24,344 --> 00:16:26,504 Speaker 2: was done so well. It's one of those movies that 373 00:16:26,544 --> 00:16:28,424 Speaker 2: sits with you for a long time because in your 374 00:16:28,464 --> 00:16:31,024 Speaker 2: mind you go back to previous scenes to try to 375 00:16:31,104 --> 00:16:33,064 Speaker 2: view it differently now that you know what you know, 376 00:16:33,344 --> 00:16:36,424 Speaker 2: which I think is what like films always aim to be, right, 377 00:16:37,024 --> 00:16:39,064 Speaker 2: they want you to keep thinking about this film. And 378 00:16:39,144 --> 00:16:40,944 Speaker 2: after I've finished watching it, all I could think about 379 00:16:41,024 --> 00:16:42,144 Speaker 2: was I can't wait to watch this again. 380 00:16:42,464 --> 00:16:44,664 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly the same thought. So it's out of the 381 00:16:44,664 --> 00:16:47,624 Speaker 1: movies tomorrow, August twenty two. Go and see it. Just 382 00:16:47,624 --> 00:16:50,384 Speaker 1: be aware that it is quite like graphic. It's graphic 383 00:16:50,384 --> 00:16:52,704 Speaker 1: and intense, but also just an amazing film to watch. 384 00:16:52,704 --> 00:16:54,464 Speaker 1: And once you do that, please DMM and I on 385 00:16:54,504 --> 00:16:56,224 Speaker 1: Instagram because it's all we want to talk about with 386 00:16:56,264 --> 00:16:57,064 Speaker 1: you guys at the moment. 387 00:16:57,544 --> 00:17:01,784 Speaker 2: Nana, Okay, I have a bit of a lighter topic 388 00:17:01,864 --> 00:17:03,624 Speaker 2: I want to bring up with you, Okay, because I've 389 00:17:03,624 --> 00:17:05,224 Speaker 2: been doing a bit of a deep dive on certain 390 00:17:05,264 --> 00:17:08,144 Speaker 2: celebrities and I have realized we are in the era 391 00:17:08,744 --> 00:17:12,624 Speaker 2: of the celebrity situationship. Yes, I want to talk about 392 00:17:12,664 --> 00:17:15,384 Speaker 2: two celebrity couples. The first one I want to talk 393 00:17:15,384 --> 00:17:20,784 Speaker 2: about was poor Mescal and Grazie Abrams. So poor Meschol 394 00:17:20,784 --> 00:17:23,224 Speaker 2: we've talked. I think we only excluicitly talk about him 395 00:17:23,224 --> 00:17:25,304 Speaker 2: whether he's in Gladiator or in a relationship. 396 00:17:25,584 --> 00:17:27,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is so interesting because you're obsessed with him 397 00:17:27,824 --> 00:17:29,864 Speaker 1: and you say he's your favorite actor, but have you 398 00:17:30,024 --> 00:17:32,104 Speaker 1: yet to see a piece of work that he's in. 399 00:17:32,464 --> 00:17:33,984 Speaker 2: Look, I don't think I need to. 400 00:17:34,704 --> 00:17:36,424 Speaker 1: I love how watching Gladiator is going to be the 401 00:17:36,464 --> 00:17:37,544 Speaker 1: first time you see him act. 402 00:17:37,704 --> 00:17:39,664 Speaker 2: And you know what I'm excited for. I can't wait 403 00:17:39,704 --> 00:17:41,944 Speaker 2: to watch that film. Hopef I can invite to the premiere. 404 00:17:42,304 --> 00:17:45,664 Speaker 2: So poor Meschal and Grazy Abrams were spotted in public 405 00:17:45,744 --> 00:17:48,504 Speaker 2: holding hands. They were spotted I think, I want to 406 00:17:48,504 --> 00:17:51,784 Speaker 2: say a few months ago at a lunch together in London. 407 00:17:52,064 --> 00:17:55,064 Speaker 2: It was a romantic vibe, but nothing was super telling 408 00:17:55,104 --> 00:17:55,744 Speaker 2: that it was a day. 409 00:17:55,784 --> 00:17:57,624 Speaker 1: It's because so many people at the restaurant were taking 410 00:17:57,704 --> 00:17:59,384 Speaker 1: photos of them. This is, I mean big thing is 411 00:17:59,384 --> 00:18:00,584 Speaker 1: they must have been okay with it, because if you 412 00:18:00,624 --> 00:18:02,544 Speaker 1: sit outside at a public table at like a quite 413 00:18:02,544 --> 00:18:04,824 Speaker 1: a well known restaurant like you must assume that people 414 00:18:04,824 --> 00:18:06,904 Speaker 1: are going to take photos. But the amount of photos 415 00:18:06,904 --> 00:18:08,904 Speaker 1: and videos that were posted online. Was quite intense, and 416 00:18:08,944 --> 00:18:11,784 Speaker 1: he kept leaning over and stroking her face. The video 417 00:18:11,824 --> 00:18:12,864 Speaker 1: would zoom in, so. 418 00:18:13,144 --> 00:18:15,744 Speaker 2: I know, I've seen all the angles I've seen that 419 00:18:15,904 --> 00:18:17,904 Speaker 2: I wish it was me. I knew what they were eating, 420 00:18:18,024 --> 00:18:20,024 Speaker 2: I knew when they took by it. I have the timecase. 421 00:18:20,624 --> 00:18:24,704 Speaker 2: So recently they were spotted holding hands and they didn't 422 00:18:24,744 --> 00:18:27,384 Speaker 2: put out a statement, but a source told people, and 423 00:18:27,544 --> 00:18:29,464 Speaker 2: we know when a source tells people, you know it's 424 00:18:29,584 --> 00:18:32,384 Speaker 2: kind of true. So a source told people that they've 425 00:18:32,424 --> 00:18:36,304 Speaker 2: been hooking up and it's still early stages. And what 426 00:18:36,464 --> 00:18:38,904 Speaker 2: I love about this was like back in the day, 427 00:18:38,984 --> 00:18:40,424 Speaker 2: And what I mean back in the day, I mean 428 00:18:40,464 --> 00:18:44,184 Speaker 2: like before twenty twenty four. Sure was that if two 429 00:18:44,224 --> 00:18:47,344 Speaker 2: celebrities were spotted together looking romantic, they'd either confirm they're 430 00:18:47,344 --> 00:18:50,104 Speaker 2: in a relationship or completely ignore it. And now we 431 00:18:50,184 --> 00:18:54,304 Speaker 2: have celebrities confirming that they're in a quote unquote situationship. 432 00:18:54,344 --> 00:18:55,504 Speaker 2: Am I putting words in their mouth? 433 00:18:55,544 --> 00:18:55,984 Speaker 1: Probably? 434 00:18:56,504 --> 00:18:59,584 Speaker 2: But it's so funny to me because a normal person 435 00:18:59,664 --> 00:19:01,904 Speaker 2: in a situationship. And when I say situationship, if you 436 00:19:01,904 --> 00:19:05,264 Speaker 2: don't know what that means, lucky you. A situationship is 437 00:19:05,304 --> 00:19:08,744 Speaker 2: when you're kind of exclusively seeing someone, but neither of 438 00:19:08,784 --> 00:19:10,224 Speaker 2: you are calling each other like you're. 439 00:19:10,144 --> 00:19:12,464 Speaker 1: Per Yeah, it just works for you both in the moment, 440 00:19:12,504 --> 00:19:14,264 Speaker 1: but you don't see it being a long term thing 441 00:19:14,344 --> 00:19:15,864 Speaker 1: that you've cemented. Yeah. 442 00:19:15,904 --> 00:19:17,784 Speaker 2: And also you're both avoiding talking about it because you 443 00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:19,144 Speaker 2: know if you talk about it might have Yeah, so 444 00:19:19,184 --> 00:19:19,944 Speaker 2: you're just kind of doing it. 445 00:19:20,344 --> 00:19:21,344 Speaker 1: It just works in the moment. 446 00:19:21,464 --> 00:19:24,304 Speaker 2: It works in the moment. So when you're a normal 447 00:19:24,344 --> 00:19:27,824 Speaker 2: person like you and I, you never talk about your situationship. 448 00:19:27,864 --> 00:19:28,104 Speaker 1: Yeah. 449 00:19:28,184 --> 00:19:31,224 Speaker 2: Right, it's kind of a private thing. It's a bit embarrassing, 450 00:19:31,544 --> 00:19:32,384 Speaker 2: suffer some. 451 00:19:32,504 --> 00:19:34,664 Speaker 1: People get too invested and then we don't kind of 452 00:19:34,744 --> 00:19:36,824 Speaker 1: just a question. And the whole point of a situationship 453 00:19:36,864 --> 00:19:38,544 Speaker 1: is that it just goes away quickly. He can go 454 00:19:38,624 --> 00:19:39,824 Speaker 1: like the next day. Then you have to deal with 455 00:19:39,864 --> 00:19:41,864 Speaker 1: people being like, oh, what happened to that guy? You 456 00:19:41,904 --> 00:19:43,944 Speaker 1: got dumped? You like, you don't know it was a situationship. 457 00:19:43,984 --> 00:19:45,904 Speaker 2: I did not get dumped, Yeah, just parted ways. 458 00:19:45,984 --> 00:19:46,184 Speaker 1: Yeah. 459 00:19:46,224 --> 00:19:48,544 Speaker 2: So the fact that they're confirming that they're just hooking 460 00:19:48,624 --> 00:19:52,064 Speaker 2: up is insane to me, And I feel like, because 461 00:19:52,064 --> 00:19:55,544 Speaker 2: they're confirming it, I think it's them like pretty much 462 00:19:55,584 --> 00:19:57,304 Speaker 2: saying that they're in a relationship, but they just don't 463 00:19:57,304 --> 00:20:00,224 Speaker 2: want to say that out loud. Yeah anymore. Just as 464 00:20:00,304 --> 00:20:02,664 Speaker 2: yet another celebrity that I want to talk about that 465 00:20:02,704 --> 00:20:05,504 Speaker 2: I think is also in a situationship is Doja Cat 466 00:20:05,544 --> 00:20:06,304 Speaker 2: and Joseph Quinn. 467 00:20:06,344 --> 00:20:08,864 Speaker 1: As you know, I'm very invested in this story. 468 00:20:09,024 --> 00:20:11,424 Speaker 2: This is like, I think the spill like a big 469 00:20:11,504 --> 00:20:11,984 Speaker 2: law of this. 470 00:20:12,384 --> 00:20:14,384 Speaker 1: This has been like, this is the long game, This 471 00:20:14,464 --> 00:20:16,904 Speaker 1: is years in the making. This is pop culture law. 472 00:20:16,984 --> 00:20:17,544 Speaker 1: It's everything. 473 00:20:17,664 --> 00:20:19,384 Speaker 2: This shows every woman that she can do it. 474 00:20:19,464 --> 00:20:21,744 Speaker 1: Yeah, this whole thing. 475 00:20:22,104 --> 00:20:23,624 Speaker 2: Okay, so I think we have to take everyone. 476 00:20:23,864 --> 00:20:25,944 Speaker 1: Yes, in case anyone has been following this as closely 477 00:20:25,944 --> 00:20:28,184 Speaker 1: as we have for the like what the last two years? 478 00:20:28,584 --> 00:20:32,864 Speaker 2: Okay, so it's twenty twenty two. Yes, Noah schnapped. It's 479 00:20:32,984 --> 00:20:34,344 Speaker 2: a little boy in Stranger Thing. 480 00:20:34,464 --> 00:20:34,664 Speaker 3: Will. 481 00:20:34,904 --> 00:20:37,264 Speaker 2: This plays Will in Stranger Things. He's not there for 482 00:20:37,304 --> 00:20:40,184 Speaker 2: most of it, but he's like a prominent character. He's 483 00:20:40,224 --> 00:20:42,344 Speaker 2: now grown up. He'll probably be in the next one. 484 00:20:42,464 --> 00:20:44,024 Speaker 1: He is in the next one, the last season. 485 00:20:44,144 --> 00:20:46,584 Speaker 2: He's also best friends with Millie Bobby Brown. Yes, he 486 00:20:46,904 --> 00:20:53,424 Speaker 2: posted on his Instagram stories something scandalous. He posted a screenshot. Firstly, 487 00:20:53,624 --> 00:20:57,224 Speaker 2: celebrities need to not take screenshots of dms without celebrities. Yeah, 488 00:20:57,264 --> 00:20:58,504 Speaker 2: he was dming Doja. 489 00:20:58,264 --> 00:21:00,584 Speaker 1: Cat so cool. So he was seventeenth the time. It's like, 490 00:21:00,664 --> 00:21:02,664 Speaker 1: you just play that cool. But of course a seventeen 491 00:21:02,744 --> 00:21:03,784 Speaker 1: year old boy's not gonna know that. 492 00:21:03,864 --> 00:21:05,984 Speaker 2: Wel he took a screenshot of that, put it on 493 00:21:06,024 --> 00:21:10,744 Speaker 2: his Instagram stories. Now in the DMS, it was Dojah 494 00:21:10,744 --> 00:21:15,944 Speaker 2: Cat messaging Noah, going, Noah, tell Joseph to hit me up. Wait, 495 00:21:16,104 --> 00:21:18,704 Speaker 2: does he have a girlfriend? And then Noah replies, ha 496 00:21:18,744 --> 00:21:20,584 Speaker 2: ha ha, just DM him and then she's like I 497 00:21:20,624 --> 00:21:22,944 Speaker 2: can't find him, which is false. She just wants to 498 00:21:22,984 --> 00:21:25,424 Speaker 2: like suss out if he hasn't. Yeah, and then Noah 499 00:21:25,544 --> 00:21:28,544 Speaker 2: sent to his profile. Out of the blue, Noah just 500 00:21:28,624 --> 00:21:31,304 Speaker 2: posts that whole conversation on Instagram story. It's kind of funny. 501 00:21:31,304 --> 00:21:32,624 Speaker 2: He thought it was really funny. He thought it was 502 00:21:32,664 --> 00:21:35,464 Speaker 2: really cute. Doja Cat did not think it was cute. 503 00:21:35,664 --> 00:21:38,224 Speaker 2: She went on Instagram Live. I think it was from 504 00:21:38,304 --> 00:21:40,384 Speaker 2: memory because this is like embedded in my head and 505 00:21:40,584 --> 00:21:43,224 Speaker 2: was talking about how she hated how that whole thing happened. 506 00:21:43,264 --> 00:21:45,744 Speaker 2: She thought it was really rude and mean, and then 507 00:21:45,864 --> 00:21:48,144 Speaker 2: the internet just ran with it. So if you don't 508 00:21:48,184 --> 00:21:51,024 Speaker 2: know who Joseph is. The reason why Dojah cat message 509 00:21:51,144 --> 00:21:53,344 Speaker 2: Noah is because Joseph Quinn is a co star with 510 00:21:53,424 --> 00:21:56,984 Speaker 2: Noah on Stranger Things spoilers. He lasted one season. 511 00:21:56,704 --> 00:21:59,024 Speaker 1: And he was the big breakout star from last season, 512 00:21:59,064 --> 00:22:01,704 Speaker 1: like he played Eddie and people became absolutely obsessed with him. 513 00:22:01,704 --> 00:22:03,384 Speaker 1: And now he's gone on to be but he was 514 00:22:03,384 --> 00:22:05,824 Speaker 1: even New Quiet Place. Yeah, he's in the New Quiet 515 00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:08,304 Speaker 1: Place movie with lapinionggoing. He's also going to be in 516 00:22:08,344 --> 00:22:10,544 Speaker 1: the New Fantastic Four movie. So he's like a a 517 00:22:10,544 --> 00:22:11,904 Speaker 1: fied superhero movie star. 518 00:22:12,024 --> 00:22:12,224 Speaker 3: Now. 519 00:22:12,264 --> 00:22:14,824 Speaker 2: He's also extremely good looking. He's crops a Jojicad. I 520 00:22:14,824 --> 00:22:17,464 Speaker 2: would have done the same. So that whole thing happened 521 00:22:17,464 --> 00:22:19,384 Speaker 2: on the internet and then I feel like a tape 522 00:22:19,384 --> 00:22:22,024 Speaker 2: it out. People were pretty angry at Dojiacad because she 523 00:22:22,064 --> 00:22:23,624 Speaker 2: was a twenty six year old woman beefing with the 524 00:22:23,664 --> 00:22:24,744 Speaker 2: seventeen year old It. 525 00:22:24,744 --> 00:22:26,784 Speaker 1: Was going two ways. First of all, everyone was obsessed 526 00:22:26,784 --> 00:22:28,704 Speaker 1: with Joseph Quinn at that point in time, and we're 527 00:22:28,704 --> 00:22:30,464 Speaker 1: all like, if we had the power to DM him 528 00:22:30,504 --> 00:22:32,104 Speaker 1: and he would see it, we would also do that. 529 00:22:32,344 --> 00:22:33,984 Speaker 1: But then and a lot of people were like, you 530 00:22:34,024 --> 00:22:36,664 Speaker 1: shouldn't be messaging a seventeen year old about this and 531 00:22:36,704 --> 00:22:38,784 Speaker 1: then be surprised when he acts like a seventeen year 532 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:41,704 Speaker 1: old and shares it over his Instagram. But it's all 533 00:22:41,704 --> 00:22:42,944 Speaker 1: worked out for the best. 534 00:22:42,824 --> 00:22:46,384 Speaker 2: Because they are together, we think, or they're in a 535 00:22:46,424 --> 00:22:49,624 Speaker 2: situation ship. They were spotted kind of embracing at a concert, 536 00:22:49,744 --> 00:22:52,104 Speaker 2: and then recently they were also spotted holding hands. 537 00:22:52,504 --> 00:22:55,904 Speaker 1: I think onod, which is such a good word and 538 00:22:55,904 --> 00:22:56,704 Speaker 1: we should use more. 539 00:22:56,784 --> 00:22:59,304 Speaker 2: I think once a celebrity whole hands in a park, 540 00:22:59,984 --> 00:23:01,944 Speaker 2: that's when you know it's situationship. 541 00:23:02,384 --> 00:23:04,824 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think in this case, like they definitely okay 542 00:23:04,824 --> 00:23:07,184 Speaker 1: with people seeing there together. It's hard because, like you 543 00:23:07,264 --> 00:23:09,744 Speaker 1: just don't know had they been dming for the last 544 00:23:09,744 --> 00:23:12,104 Speaker 1: two years and chatting and hanging out, they might have been. 545 00:23:12,144 --> 00:23:14,104 Speaker 1: It's like a lot of celebrities don't go into public. 546 00:23:14,104 --> 00:23:16,144 Speaker 1: It's like Taylor Stiff was saying, like people thought she 547 00:23:16,224 --> 00:23:19,584 Speaker 1: was crazy for going to that Travis Kelsey game because 548 00:23:19,664 --> 00:23:21,864 Speaker 1: they thought they had just spoken once and she'd gone 549 00:23:21,864 --> 00:23:23,624 Speaker 1: to the game, and she's like, no, I've obviously been 550 00:23:23,704 --> 00:23:25,984 Speaker 1: with him for months before we went out in public. 551 00:23:26,224 --> 00:23:27,664 Speaker 1: And that's what happens. A lot of the time, it 552 00:23:27,664 --> 00:23:29,864 Speaker 1: looks like celebrities have just appeared out of nowhere, but 553 00:23:29,904 --> 00:23:32,384 Speaker 1: it's just their first public outing. But I think if 554 00:23:32,424 --> 00:23:35,024 Speaker 1: they're not in a relationship and they're not worried about 555 00:23:35,064 --> 00:23:37,664 Speaker 1: people seeing them, they're kind of happier to be out 556 00:23:37,664 --> 00:23:39,664 Speaker 1: and about. Like it was just recently that Paul Mescal 557 00:23:39,784 --> 00:23:42,944 Speaker 1: going back to him, was photograph with Namalily Portman outside 558 00:23:42,984 --> 00:23:45,344 Speaker 1: the street smoking and chatting, and everyone's like, oh, they're together, 559 00:23:45,384 --> 00:23:47,624 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, No, if they were together, they wouldn't 560 00:23:47,624 --> 00:23:49,624 Speaker 1: be out and just just kind of like, you know, 561 00:23:49,664 --> 00:23:51,504 Speaker 1: they didn't care if people saw them. They obviously weren't 562 00:23:51,504 --> 00:23:54,064 Speaker 1: trying to hide anything. It's more when you start seeing 563 00:23:54,144 --> 00:23:56,544 Speaker 1: like Gracie and Paul kind of like quietly slimm into 564 00:23:56,544 --> 00:24:00,104 Speaker 1: a restaurant, or Joseph Quinn and Doja Cat like be 565 00:24:00,224 --> 00:24:02,824 Speaker 1: seen in public but not in an intense way. But 566 00:24:02,904 --> 00:24:04,984 Speaker 1: they're obviously happy to be photographed because the knew peer 567 00:24:05,064 --> 00:24:07,264 Speaker 1: people there. It's like they are happy to have people 568 00:24:07,304 --> 00:24:09,984 Speaker 1: see their situationship. But also it might be a fall 569 00:24:10,024 --> 00:24:13,544 Speaker 1: with these too. I think, like Paul and Gracie see 570 00:24:13,704 --> 00:24:15,824 Speaker 1: maybe a bit more kind of loose, but I don't know, 571 00:24:15,864 --> 00:24:18,024 Speaker 1: if there's tourist situationship am, I think that we might 572 00:24:18,024 --> 00:24:20,464 Speaker 1: be seeing a full blown romance on our hands. 573 00:24:20,504 --> 00:24:23,064 Speaker 2: I also want to know two years if this whole 574 00:24:23,104 --> 00:24:25,864 Speaker 2: thing didn't blow up with Noah, would it have happened. 575 00:24:26,064 --> 00:24:28,824 Speaker 2: I think they would have like connected over how ridiculous 576 00:24:28,824 --> 00:24:29,904 Speaker 2: the whole I wonder. 577 00:24:29,664 --> 00:24:33,024 Speaker 1: If Joseph saw the and this is pure fan fiction 578 00:24:33,064 --> 00:24:35,424 Speaker 1: I'm creating here. I wonder if Joseph saw the backlash 579 00:24:35,464 --> 00:24:36,664 Speaker 1: that Dojah Cat was getting. 580 00:24:36,544 --> 00:24:38,704 Speaker 2: Sausage and been like, hey, this is crazy. 581 00:24:38,744 --> 00:24:41,104 Speaker 1: Yeah, because people are calling her out for contacting nowhere, 582 00:24:41,104 --> 00:24:42,664 Speaker 1: and then also people were saying that she was desperate, 583 00:24:42,704 --> 00:24:45,504 Speaker 1: which she's obviously not. I wonder if Joseph quin because 584 00:24:45,504 --> 00:24:47,824 Speaker 1: he seems like a nice guy, was like, hey, I 585 00:24:47,824 --> 00:24:49,784 Speaker 1: saw this is happening, like, hope you're all good. Also, 586 00:24:49,824 --> 00:24:51,464 Speaker 1: I would have loved you to dm me. I would 587 00:24:51,504 --> 00:24:53,504 Speaker 1: have been really flattered. And then it just went off 588 00:24:53,544 --> 00:24:53,864 Speaker 1: from there. 589 00:24:53,904 --> 00:24:57,704 Speaker 2: As my fan fiction, the spill fan fiction, I'm gonna 590 00:24:57,704 --> 00:24:58,344 Speaker 2: say that's fact. 591 00:24:58,504 --> 00:24:58,984 Speaker 1: That's fact. 592 00:24:58,984 --> 00:25:01,064 Speaker 2: Do you heard it here first, folks, Dojha Cat and 593 00:25:01,184 --> 00:25:03,904 Speaker 2: Joseph Quinn are in a relationship. Thank you so much 594 00:25:03,944 --> 00:25:06,424 Speaker 2: for listening to the spill today. If you love listening 595 00:25:06,424 --> 00:25:09,544 Speaker 2: to us, please follow us on Instagram at the Spill Podcast, 596 00:25:09,744 --> 00:25:12,544 Speaker 2: we post all the time we posted about the premiere 597 00:25:12,624 --> 00:25:15,784 Speaker 2: we went to. I also convinced Laura. I think I 598 00:25:15,944 --> 00:25:19,184 Speaker 2: piggybacked off the fact that you were sleep deprived, so 599 00:25:19,544 --> 00:25:21,344 Speaker 2: I like forced a camera in your face and like 600 00:25:21,424 --> 00:25:23,224 Speaker 2: made you do a pre interview on what to expect 601 00:25:23,264 --> 00:25:23,744 Speaker 2: from the film. 602 00:25:23,824 --> 00:25:25,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then we didn't do what we actually thought afterwards. 603 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:27,104 Speaker 1: It was the whole point of that video. 604 00:25:27,184 --> 00:25:28,944 Speaker 2: Well, that's why we did the podcast. So if you 605 00:25:28,984 --> 00:25:31,464 Speaker 2: wanted to know what we thought before going into the film, 606 00:25:31,744 --> 00:25:35,504 Speaker 2: look at our Instagram. We will here. I haven't seen 607 00:25:35,504 --> 00:25:37,104 Speaker 2: it myself, so who knows what it will look like, 608 00:25:37,184 --> 00:25:38,584 Speaker 2: but yeah, hopefully it's there. 609 00:25:39,024 --> 00:25:39,384 Speaker 1: You'll see. 610 00:25:39,384 --> 00:25:41,104 Speaker 2: If you'll find out, we will see you back here 611 00:25:41,144 --> 00:25:48,304 Speaker 2: in your podcast feed at three pm tomorrow. Bye bye, 612 00:25:49,024 --> 00:25:49,144 Speaker 2: Lan