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Speaker 2: Being in this icky, uncomfortable space is unnerving at times,

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Speaker 3: What this trip taught me is that when I am myself,

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Speaker 4: And who will support me, and who I will give

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Speaker 1: These are the yays of our lives. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives. They adore

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your Yeay. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or Spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned fu

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Speaker 1: entrepreneur whos wapped the suits and heels to co found

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Speaker 1: matcha Maiden and Macha. Milkbar Cza is a series of

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Speaker 1: conversations on finding a life you love and exploring the

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Speaker 1: self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. Hello,

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Speaker 1: lovely neighborhood. So excited to finally have our yeas of

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Speaker 1: our lives recap for you from our incredible trip to

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Speaker 1: give you some background, eight amazing women and two fabulous

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Speaker 1: men who were capturing photos and videos spent three days

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Speaker 1: led by Larapinta Culture, the only Aboriginal owned and operated

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Speaker 1: with now three times Seize the a guest Samantha Gash,

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Speaker 1: who organized this fabulous trip under the banner of her

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Speaker 1: new trail running and adventure group for women, Her Trails,

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Speaker 1: along with her dear friend Joe Nevin, who is now

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Speaker 1: one of my dear friends after the drip. To give

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Speaker 1: avid trail runners, these two are also heading back to

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Speaker 1: Little idea of the powerhouses you're about to hear from.

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Speaker 1: They'll also chat about the return of relief run that

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Speaker 1: You may remember that my husband Nick and Samantha pulled

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Speaker 1: together a global virtual run last year to raise over

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Speaker 1: You'll hear more about it soon and why it is

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Speaker 1: the episode. Anyway, enjoy the cackles and reflections. I hope

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Speaker 1: it brings some ya to your week. Hello you gorgeous humans.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for.

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Speaker 4: Joining Ah, thanks for having us. This is fun.

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Speaker 2: That's all right, Sarah. It's delightful to be back on

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Speaker 1: This is Sammy's third appearance on CZA. Our listeners probably

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Speaker 2: responsibility for you to now show that, to show that

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00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: exact thing.

439
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing totally.

440
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: I think another really beautiful thing about this trip and

441
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: that we don't often allow ourselves to do, is because

442
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: there was no purpose, Like we weren't actually there for work.

443
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: It meant that the networking wasn't to get anything from

444
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: each other or to like there was no objective even

445
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: of learning, like we knew we would automatically learn things

446
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: and have revelations. But because it wasn't like a retreat

447
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,200
Speaker 1: for relaxing, it wasn't a retreat for working, it wasn't

448
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: a retreat for learning. I don't think you very often

449
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: allow yourself to do stuff that doesn't have a purpose,

450
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: because it's got to be worth your time. But it

451
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: meant that we all just made relationships, not through what

452
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: we could do for each other. And I think that's

453
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: really interesting as well, because usually it's formed through that

454
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,240
Speaker 1: kind of connection. But we were all just there and

455
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,239
Speaker 1: you know, coming back to that quote like may as

456
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: well be here, it was like, well, once we got there,

457
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 1: we were like, let's just be where we are and

458
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned you know, all of our shit stinks,

459
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: like you guys actually got to witness that mine does,

460
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: Like oh my gosh.

461
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:24,440
Speaker 2: I mean you know, movement is an incredible lubrication movement. Yeah,

462
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,160
Speaker 2: And also like the brain connection is like no joke,

463
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: The gastro intestinal tract is incredibly sensitive to strong and

464
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: new emotions as well as movement. So like anxiety, fear, anger,

465
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 2: nerds can all start to trigger responses in our stomachs. Now,

466
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: I think by this point, Sarah like was copeing fine,

467
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 2: she just needed to go and do a big old

468
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: pooh Sarah. And initially she says, it's middle of the

469
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: hike and we're on this little summit, and I'm like, mate, like,

470
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: I don't think the spirits are going to appreciate you

471
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 2: on this particular point you do if you.

472
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: Do that, Sarah, such bad jojo. But I was like, guys,

473
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean, like, it's got like what do I do?

474
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: Like I can't help the spirits will understand it's my

475
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: moment of me.

476
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,920
Speaker 2: You can actually feel in the space when it's like no, no,

477
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: like I've got a hold at this moment totally. But

478
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, like it gets to be

479
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: like an hour later, Sarah's like, I'm still holding somehow.

480
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: She just like marches off ahead of everyone in this

481
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: single file, incredibly exposed, no trees, and she just goes up.

482
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: She likes to go up, like the mountain.

483
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: At this point, Sarah, you don't know, but where on

484
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 3: a hill watching growing go down, go down the hill,

485
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 3: and you're like marching like you're going onto a display screen.

486
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, And like I could hear the drone

487
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: also going around. I was like, oh my god. But

488
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: I think the most liberating thing about the whole environment

489
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: is when you are living in such close quarters with

490
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: people without your normal stuff, you just get like you

491
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: cannot hide who you are and what your body's doing.

492
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: And it's actually like I didn't even care by that moment,

493
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: because I was like, eh, you know, we're all kind

494
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: of humans. And I think that was just one of

495
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: the coolest things of removing time, removing objectives, removing any

496
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: kind of facade of work you or relationship you, and

497
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: all just being ourselves while we ate together every day,

498
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: and we together every day and like you know, we're

499
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: at the campfire looking at the stars every day and

500
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: reflecting every day. It was just so special.

501
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 4: Watching the moon rise.

502
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: It was I was like, yeah, I think that was

503
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 3: the moment that I really let my.

504
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 4: Watching Sam and who was Hailey.

505
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 3: Hailey and Sarah. We're out outside our tents watching the

506
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: moon rise and Sam heard me moving inside my tent, goes, Jojo,

507
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 3: come out, come out and watch the moon rise. And

508
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: I walked out and now standing in arm I put

509
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 3: my arm around Sam. She put her arm around me, and.

510
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: I went sh and she goes what and they poured.

511
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 3: I was thinking that I was trying to steal this

512
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: really like significant moment of peaceful time, and I just

513
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: dropped the biggest part.

514
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: I literally thought that I was getting in trouble for

515
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 1: interrupting the moment, Like I thought you were like shut up.

516
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: Like yeah, the spirits shh.

517
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, now I have arrived, like no,

518
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 3: you know me, you know, like once I've broken the space.

519
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: So it was like the way you were describing before, Sarah,

520
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: like one were just kept coming into my mind and

521
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: it's like primal, You're going back to the root of

522
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: what humankind was kind of like here for besides the

523
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: fact the way we're forunicating with each other. Beside that

524
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: part everything else.

525
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: I mean it was only five days though, I mean,

526
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: if you left us to our own devices, we would

527
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: have figured it out.

528
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, there was lots of tooks of my brains.

529
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,120
Speaker 1: But you know what else was really lovely was that

530
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: we were walking on land. It's like seventy thousand years old.

531
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: It's some of the oldest formations being guided by representatives

532
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: of the oldest culture of the world. And even like

533
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: my body, you two are more used to it. My

534
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: body is not used to walking that many k's a day,

535
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: but just the sort of stillness of just repetitive motion.

536
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: I've just walking. I can't even explain how much your

537
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: brain goes through while you're doing that. We went through

538
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: periods of intense revelation to just like laughter, to just

539
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: dead silence, like a couple of times in the day.

540
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: There were eight people, plus the two guys who were

541
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: there who were awesome, who were videoing and taking photos,

542
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,439
Speaker 1: but also part of the group. None of us talked

543
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: sometimes for hours at a time, and like you never

544
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: get that stillness, but also while your body's moving, and

545
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was just amazing, Like I don't

546
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: really have words that, like you said, Joe, don't sound

547
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 1: lanky to describe it.

548
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: But it's like meditation though, Like it's a really cool

549
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 3: experience where you get to you start chasing thoughts, and

550
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: that magic moment is then when you notice what you're

551
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 3: doing and you become this kind of external viewer watching

552
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: your brain bounce around filling this space that you so

553
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: rarely have in day to day life, and you're just going, wow,

554
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: this is hilarious or you know, and then or you

555
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: might get onto a really good thought that would happen

556
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 3: sometimes and it was like delicious and you'd just let

557
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: yourself sink into that while you're hiking and yeah, just

558
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: like munching down on this amazing you know dream you're

559
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 3: having and you're or like for me, I'm just solving the.

560
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: World's problems, like I'm saying, oh, I could do this

561
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: or I could.

562
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 3: Do that, you know, And it's like often you come

563
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: up with some of your great ideas in those moments.

564
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: And the opposite is when you hit the hard times

565
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: And Sarah, I don't walk normally. I run a lot,

566
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 3: so I actually found that physically challenging as well, having

567
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 3: a head. I'm sure Saantic too, having a heavy pack

568
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: and hiking. My legs were tired and I was ready

569
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: to stop some days. And so then noticing my negative

570
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: self talk and trying to work on that and trying

571
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: to catch that and redirect it and reorient it and

572
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: just neutralize it, you know, was really a great gift

573
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: because that's what we bring back. That's an application we

574
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: use in work and life and love as well. So I,

575
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 3: you know, that's all stuff you get from silence.

576
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: I was about to say, silence, like it doesn't really

577
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: play a very big role in our day to day

578
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: lives where it maybe should. Maybe one of the things

579
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: that I took back was that obviously, being a podcaster

580
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: and a host, like I talk all the time, and

581
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: then because I like to actualize experiences through talking, that

582
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm talking in my personal life as well. But when

583
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: you allow silence, beautiful things happen, and I think because

584
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: we often feel like we need to fill those silences.

585
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: The other thing that I really loved learning about Indigenous

586
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: culture was that there's a really big concept of it's

587
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: not your story to tell, which we kind of ended

588
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: up laughing about a little bit at the end. But

589
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, if it's not your story. You don't have

590
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: to always be explaining things, and you don't have to

591
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: know everything about everything, and like, I'm sure we all

592
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: got frustrated a few times when we were like, tell

593
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: me about this land, and Perula, who was Jungla the

594
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: elder's grandson, he'd say, I can't. This is not my

595
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: family's land. I can't speak about this, and we're sort

596
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: of like, well, we've come all the way out here

597
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: and I want to know what this land is and

598
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: I want to know the story, so tell me. But

599
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: I like that the discretion of, like, you don't have

600
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: to talk about everything and understand everything was kind of nice.

601
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I think the way Perula guided us

602
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: was why we were silent. I think if we were

603
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: left to our own devices, we would have gone into

604
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: our default settings of chattering through thinking that's a way

605
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: of connecting. And I think he kind of made us

606
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: reflect on the fact that when all you're doing is talking,

607
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: that's all you're hearing. And so that's why we went

608
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: out with them. Like, I really feel like there were

609
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 2: so many little life lessons that you may not incorporate

610
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: every element into everyday life, but even recently I've been

611
00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: saying either that's that's not my story to tell, or

612
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 2: if I do say it, I kind of definitely flag

613
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: it by going, I'm going to share this part. I

614
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 2: think in this context like I have permissioned to share it,

615
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: because sometimes you do need to pass on bits of information,

616
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 2: but to kind of be aware that the message is

617
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: getting diluted every single time someone passes on a piece

618
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 2: of that story and making sure that it never gets

619
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: to a point where, like you telling someone else's story,

620
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: is you getting involved in gossip and bitch or negative

621
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 2: narrative for whatever reason. And I recently went through a

622
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: thing a while ago, and I was like, sometimes people

623
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: don't know the great things that other people do, so

624
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 2: I might share it, so like, you know, this person

625
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 2: said this, and I thought that that was really great

626
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: because particularly when I did in the context of this

627
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 2: person said a really beautiful thing about you the other day.

628
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: They might not have told you, but they told me,

629
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: and I can see how it would make the other

630
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: person feel. And now I'm just in my day to

631
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: day life, I'm like, Okay, so is that mover stepping

632
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: a boundary? Yes? I had good intentions behind it, but

633
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: was that maybe not mine to tell I like the

634
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: thought of it now, Like that's what experiencing other cultures

635
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: is all about. Like every time you go to a

636
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: professional development conference, Like it's not like you're going to

637
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: come out of carbon copy of that particular experience or

638
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: that culture or that set of thinking. But you go, Okay, well,

639
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: what in that works really well for my life? That

640
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: allows me to create my own formula and my own

641
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: set of guidelines, but how I want to live my

642
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: life connected to my values and my integrity. Yeah, and

643
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: so that's what I like. I like being shaken up

644
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 2: to think differently. And it was so interesting when Perula

645
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 2: first told us to shut the fuck up without using

646
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: those words, but that's how my internals interpreted it, like

647
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: I was being told off as a school kid. And

648
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: he even did like the mirroring action. He like pointed

649
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: to the eyes, pointed to the heart, and then did

650
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: a zip of the lips, and I did. I gutturally

651
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: felt like, oh I'm naughty. I shouldn't be talking now.

652
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: My inner side felt like I want to defend. I

653
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: need a just and then I was like, sit with

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Speaker 2: that uncomfortableness, and that's okay, it's actually freaking okay. To

655
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Speaker 2: be uncomfortable that maybe you said the wrong thing or

656
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Speaker 2: and you can hold space for it. And I went

657
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Speaker 2: on a hiking trip to Tasmania earlier this year and

658
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Speaker 2: I actually do like to hike in silence, particularly when

659
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Speaker 2: I'm in the hurt blocker, and I think a lot

660
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Speaker 2: of people try and wipe away their pain through conversation,

661
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Speaker 2: and whilst conversing is amazing, it's sometimes okay to be

662
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Speaker 2: with it and to like sit with struggle, sit with

663
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Speaker 2: challenging emotions and to not always wipe them away straight away,

664
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Speaker 2: like we're quite capable and that's actually something that builds

665
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Speaker 2: up our resilience to kind of deal with it. And

666
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Speaker 2: so sometimes in that silent moment because we have Tom

667
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Speaker 2: and I hiked, this is like, what do you love

668
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Speaker 2: so much about hiking? And they're asking Aazilian questions and

669
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Speaker 2: I was like, sometimes the silence.

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Speaker 1: Just quickly interrupting today's episode to take you back to

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Speaker 1: what you now know is my earliest hometown of Warrigal.

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Speaker 1: You may have seen our recent years of our lives

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Speaker 1: trip there with women in Gippsland and one of the

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Speaker 3: Everything you're saying remind like it's so yogic, you know.

703
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Speaker 3: The Dalai Lama talks about enlightenment not being sitting on

704
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Speaker 3: a mountaintop completely free of thought with this completely empty mind.

705
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: It's about being able to so constantly notice what your

706
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: mind does and what you do. And when you're talking

707
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: about that, and when you're talking about how you noticed

708
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 3: that you were angry and you were you know, your

709
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: ego is kind of getting challenged when you felt naughty

710
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: and when you start to reflect in everyday life, Oh,

711
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: was that my story to tell?

712
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Speaker 4: Should I think about that?

713
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Speaker 3: To me, we're just getting so much closer to becoming

714
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: enlightened people, you know, to traveling the earth in an

715
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 3: enlightened way, which is simply in other words, self awareness,

716
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 3: you know. And the more we embed ourselves in these

717
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: situations and allow ourselves to experience things in this surrendering way,

718
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: the more enlightened we become, because the more we re

719
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Speaker 3: enter life and just start going, Oh, that kind of

720
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: ties to something I felt on that trip, you know, like,

721
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Speaker 3: what does what does that Behave you do? Am I

722
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Speaker 3: telling that story? Why am I feeling my ego challenged

723
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Speaker 3: by this? And you know it helps us grow in

724
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Speaker 3: so many ways totally.

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Speaker 1: I think the quote that I used before, this quote

726
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Speaker 1: of the A obviously was a mindstre by a new

727
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: experience can never go back to its old dimensions. And

728
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Speaker 1: I love that because you really feel your brain actually

729
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: stretching as you see new ways of doing things and

730
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Speaker 1: think about like there's that sort of confronting, discomfort, processing, acceptance,

731
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Speaker 1: surrender process you could see us all going through each

732
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Speaker 1: day at different points. Is there any way that you

733
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Speaker 1: found your mind stretched from this particular experience that you

734
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Speaker 1: will never be able to go back from. Like your

735
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Speaker 1: biggest takeaway of like, wow, I won't be the same

736
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Speaker 1: because of.

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Speaker 3: That, mom would be to touch on that when I

738
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Speaker 3: spoke about earlier of really having to sit in that

739
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Speaker 3: uncomfortable place of deeply being myself around people I don't

740
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Speaker 3: know and wanting to get away from that. And I

741
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: have returned with a level of self assurance about owning

742
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 3: who I am in my circles and trusting that that

743
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: won't be for everybody, and you returning to that adage

744
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Speaker 3: you know, that's not my people, not for them, They're

745
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: not my people, and being okay with that, because what

746
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Speaker 3: this trip taught me is that when I am myself,

747
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Speaker 3: you know there will be people who who love that

748
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Speaker 3: and who will support me and who I will give

749
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Speaker 3: back to and that is enough. And I think I'm

750
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Speaker 3: never going to go backwards on that. I'm going to

751
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: keep challenging. It's not going to be easy for me

752
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Speaker 3: because I've spent a lifetime of not doing that, but

753
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Speaker 3: I think that I'm very committed to showing up in

754
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Speaker 3: my leadership at work, you know, in every environment, when

755
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm presenting, when I'm teaching, when I'm raising my kids

756
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 3: at PTA meetings, like, I'm going to show up with

757
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Speaker 3: me And I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeahs show that's so beautiful, You're so articulate.

759
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Except when I'm dropping the F bomb constantly.

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Speaker 3: Face You're welcome, Yeah, what about you, Sammy.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of juicy stuff out of it.

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Speaker 2: And I definitely I actually came out incredibly energized from

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Speaker 2: an experience that sometimes people think that you might come

764
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: back exhausted. I didn't feel that way, Like I if

765
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Speaker 2: I hadn't have done that, I don't think i'd be

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Speaker 2: working on the projects that I'm working on now. That

767
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Speaker 2: I think because I created space for myself, I could

768
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Speaker 2: start to see what was important, and so if I

769
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Speaker 2: was to distill that into what would I take moving forward?

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Speaker 2: Is the importance of crafting space. Yeah, crafting space with

771
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Speaker 2: maybe not a clear objective, crafting space with important people

772
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: on country, in environments and landscapes that make me feel

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Speaker 2: something different than what I do in my normal life.

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Speaker 2: The power of that, and also just the recognition of like,

775
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Speaker 2: I have an incredible group of women in my life,

776
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Speaker 2: and I think sometimes we silo our friendships to you know,

777
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Speaker 2: like Sarah and I we've known each other for fourteen

778
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Speaker 2: years and we went through university. So I'll preserve and

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Speaker 2: protect and keep that relationship just to me. In Sad

780
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Speaker 2: and Joe is my running friend, and Kemmy is my

781
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Speaker 2: speaking friend, and Hailey I do female adventurers stuff with.

782
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Speaker 2: In fact, if all the women in your life come

783
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Speaker 2: from vast different backgrounds walks of life, but they hold

784
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Speaker 2: similar values, bring that shit together.

785
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Speaker 4: Amen.

786
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Speaker 1: Amen?

787
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because now I'm just it's so nice that I

788
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: have like eight of my girlfriends who I adore and love,

789
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: and they all adore and love and call upon and

790
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: love each other. And I think sometimes people can get

791
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: really protective of their relationships, professional or personal, and I

792
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: try not to do that. And this was an embodiment

793
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Speaker 2: of me going like, you know, utilize it. You know,

794
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: no one went in there with commercial objectives or personal

795
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: objectives really, but you know, use Karen for pr like

796
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 2: go and get training advice from Joe get on Sarah's

797
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 2: podcast Abundance that Up.

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Speaker 3: And I felt that gosh, I felt that I felt

799
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Speaker 3: like I walked away with seven new friends, like I

800
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Speaker 3: really I really did. Like it wasn't like, oh, we're

801
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Speaker 3: on holidays together and you know, have a good life.

802
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Speaker 3: I was like these and I felt that from you, Sammy.

803
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Speaker 3: I felt that openness and it felt fresh, like it's

804
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: like this is this is a thing we need to

805
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 3: build on as a womanhood. You know this, You know

806
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: there is abundance, There is lots of seats at the table,

807
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Speaker 3: and yeah, I think it's you really got a ball rolling.

808
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Speaker 1: And you can see that from like how many women

809
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: reached out being like how can we do this?

810
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Speaker 2: When can we come?

811
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Speaker 1: And it's so exciting say that her trails is turning

812
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Speaker 1: into something, which kind of leads into the next section

813
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Speaker 1: of yighborhood. Watch really cool things that are happen happening

814
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Speaker 1: out in the neighborhood, three of which are related to you, Sam,

815
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Speaker 1: which is no great surprise really once anyone knows Sam

816
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: that you usually all the cool things in the neighborhood

817
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Speaker 1: are related to you somehow of it.

818
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Speaker 4: So talk us.

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Speaker 1: Through a how you know people in the future might

820
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: be able to get involved in these kinds of experiences.

821
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Speaker 1: Be what you two in particular are going back to

822
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: do and see the third incredible thing that you have

823
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: both been working on that we can all get involved

824
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Speaker 1: in in the next couple of weeks.

825
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Speaker 2: I definitely think one of my strengths is corrolling people

826
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: in my life to move in a certain direction. But

827
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: again it's all values driven. You know, like I think

828
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 2: even a broader level, I think people want to have space,

829
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: they want to have a solution to something, they want

830
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Speaker 2: to have a way to be involved. They just don't

831
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 2: not always know how to do it. So I guess,

832
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Speaker 2: first one, are we going to be doing more of

833
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: these experiences? Well, as I said, it wasn't like the

834
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: intention to necessarily do that, But afterwards I was like, ah,

835
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: we have got We've like, we've got the most incredible supplies,

836
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 2: we know, the best accommodations. This has to be experienced

837
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: again for people to create their own formula of how

838
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: this looks, so, you know, like Joe and I do.

839
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, we'll call the last Opportunity

840
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: in the Sea and it would be August before it

841
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: goes too hot in Laalara, Pintera. So yeah, we're hosting

842
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: another retreat for her Trails, basically the exact same thing,

843
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 2: you know, two nights at a place called Aramone Romina Homestead,

844
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Speaker 2: which is a six hundred acre property thirty kilometers away

845
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Speaker 2: from Alice, where we'll be sleeping in glamping tents and

846
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: having incredible food and moving our bodies and you know,

847
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: and then sunrise hikes and sunrise you know, sunset hikes

848
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Speaker 2: as well, and then getting on country for three days

849
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Speaker 2: with Larapina Culture and then finishing out the Hilton and

850
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Speaker 2: doing a hot air ballooning. So that's in August. I

851
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: think it's the seventeenth of August, is that right, Joe? Yeah, yeah,

852
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: Joe actually to take time off work because she's co

853
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: facilitating with me.

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00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, guys, there are actually no places because we're

855
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Speaker 1: all coming back to day.

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00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: I want to preface it because you know, if there

857
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Speaker 2: are people who reach out to her straight away, I

858
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: want to say it's an aspirational trip because you know,

859
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Speaker 2: the price of working with all these different operators there

860
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: is a There is a price, and I definitely didn't

861
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 2: want to discount working with an indigenous guiding group. And

862
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: you know, our accommodation is beautiful and you're nourished celluarly

863
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 2: with your food, with your rest, with the you know,

864
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 2: the experiences that you have. The fee for the seven

865
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Speaker 2: days is seven thousand dollars, and I want to say

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Speaker 2: that upfront because I just want to put it out

867
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: there and it is an investment in not just you,

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Speaker 2: It's an investment in the connections that you're going to

869
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: make the people that will come out in your lives

870
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: and also just the opportunities that will flow from it.

871
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: So it's like the MBA of adventure.

872
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: Why didn't we put that on the flyer?

873
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: I like, well, yeah, I mean I just made it

874
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: up then, But I have because like this Her Trails,

875
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 2: you organization that you know you've been speaking about Sarah,

876
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: which this retreat is run out of. I really have

877
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 2: been feeling that three tenants out of Her Trails is

878
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 2: allowing women to feel opportunity where they can be self reliant,

879
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: develop and harness their existing resilience and building from it,

880
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: and then also finding the lightness, which is where like

881
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: that joy is sreum where I feel like you've been

882
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 2: so incredible in my life, are reminding like joy has

883
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: to underpin every single thing that you do in order

884
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: for us to not walk away at the end of

885
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: our days on this planet and go. I just didn't

886
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 2: allow myself to be happy, which is the fifth common

887
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: regret that people have on their deathbed, written by a

888
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: book of Bronnie Ware, the Five Common Regrets of the dying.

889
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 2: Who wants her to speak the other day and I

890
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: adore that woman and like the you know her story

891
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: that she told through that book. But the first regret

892
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: was I wish I didn't let other people basically determine

893
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: how I would my life. And then the fifth one, yay,

894
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 2: whish I let myself be happier. And so so often

895
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, all these things are based on choice, Like

896
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 2: do I choose to have this experience? Do I choose

897
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 2: to craft time for myself? Do I choose to see

898
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: the lightness in this? It's your choice. Everything that we do,

899
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: and particularly in the privileged lives that we live in here,

900
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: we can definitely say that. So if anyone is interested

901
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: in doing this treat, obviously short turn around time, but

902
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: you will be nourished on every level. And we have

903
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 2: probably the coolest swag that you're want to come out

904
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 2: of this troop. But I don't even tell you that

905
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: because it's a.

906
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: Surprise, because you don't need to know everything in advance.

907
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've already had a bunch of women who've signed

908
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: up for it. There's a maximum ten on it, so

909
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: it's like it's small and it's intimate, very one on one.

910
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: You know, we co create the experience in the moment

911
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 2: as well, so the women on, like Erica Kramer from

912
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: you know, the Confidence Queen Tina Towers. I just want

913
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: to say her name twenty times, Tina Towers, Tina Towers her,

914
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: He's amazing be a singer. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I

915
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: just want to go Tinternitya Towers.

916
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 4: Don't do that. I do that, Okay.

917
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: I saw her face looking I'm like, oh, okay, this

918
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: is one of those moments of being judge. But I'm

919
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: going to keep rolling with it.

920
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 4: That's true love.

921
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: But you know, coming out of that, I was just

922
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: you know, a bit of context to Joe's and my friendship,

923
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: telling a part of her story to.

924
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,720
Speaker 4: Tell Sam stop, I'm giving it to you.

925
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: But that's not true. But years ago, Joe created an

926
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: organization called Summit Sisters, and I was close friend to

927
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 2: Joe back in the day when she did that, but

928
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: it closed down for whatever reason and Joe never spoke

929
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: about it again, and so I when I was creating

930
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: her trails, I kind of totally forgot that so much

931
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: sisters that had ever been in existence until as I'm

932
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: like crafting the project and she goes, I've got all

933
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: this material, and I'm like, why do you have all

934
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: this material, like why have you written documents and documents

935
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: and documents you know, summut sisters, And I'm like, oh

936
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: my gosh, there are people in your close community that

937
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: offer so much more depth of resource and wisdom. You

938
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: don't have to reinvent the wheel. Like we can stand

939
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 2: on the shoulders of giants, and our giants are our

940
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: friends and our people that we choose to be aligned with. Uh,

941
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 2: and we cut time dramatically and like get shit done.

942
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely, which both of you have been doing as well

943
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 1: with the experience at kind of the other end of

944
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: the spectrum. So one is quite intimate and curated, and

945
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: the next one is like as many people around the

946
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: world as we can get on board, talk us through that.

947
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 2: Hit it, Joe, you know what we're talking about.

948
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is really I feel like Sam should

949
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 3: be talking to this.

950
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 4: So I'll briefly introduce Sam, but let me introduce Sam,

951
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: like she needs that.

952
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

953
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: So late last year, if anyone was under a rock,

954
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: Sam and Nick Davidson, who I think you know, Sarah,

955
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 3: I might.

956
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: Have met him before.

957
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they founded the relief run Like in it felt

958
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: like thirty seconds to rush to the aid of the

959
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 3: Australian bushfire victims who were really struggling and raised one

960
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 3: point one something million dollars to the astrone Red Cross

961
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: bush Fire Appeal. And then obviously Sam has huge ties

962
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 3: in year after her run India project and has always

963
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: had her heart there ever since. I think you've been

964
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 3: there like six times, Sammy, and so we're all watching

965
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 3: India really suffer at the moment, like in a way

966
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 3: that is quite I don't have language for it. All

967
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: I do is cry when I see it, and it's

968
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 3: and I know Sam and I have been in tears

969
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 3: looking at stuff together recently. It's genuinely heartbreaking. And so

970
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: Sam's just called it and gone, we're bringing back the

971
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: relief runt. And she called me and said I want

972
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: to do this.

973
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 4: I need help.

974
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 3: And so I called my people and said, Sam wants

975
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 3: to do this, she needs help. And we've pulled together

976
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 3: a cracking little team and yeah, I'll hand over to you, Sammy.

977
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 2: Oh. I mean, this is why we're in partnership, and

978
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 2: this is where an example of like together we can

979
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: tell the story because we all have different elements that

980
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: bring it together. And I think India is in the

981
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 2: groups of just a crisis that they can't overcome on

982
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: its own. And that's not kind of being this white

983
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: savior complex. It's actually like a community is going through

984
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: significant suffering right now, and Australia and particularly a lot

985
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 2: of other countries in the world are not in that

986
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: depth of crisis, and we can all them support to

987
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: each other, you know what we're seeing on the media,

988
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: Like I feel like, if you're not paying attention, you

989
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: won't even know. And probably all you're hearing about is

990
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: the you know, Australian who are in India and need

991
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 2: to get home, which obviously is an issue, but what

992
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: about the people who can't get out, who are caught

993
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 2: in that situation day in, day out, And so like

994
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: for anyone who's kind of like data oriented. They have

995
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: officially listed that over twenty six million cases of COVID

996
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 2: i've been recorded in India, which is the more than

997
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: the population of Australia, and four thousand people minimum have

998
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: died every single day over the past three weeks. And

999
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 2: it's said to be a gross underestimate. And there's a

1000
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: whole lot of reasons why that's a gross underestimate, from

1001
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 2: the fact that they don't have COVID testing. In the

1002
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: rural communities, they don't have hospitals, they don't have facilities,

1003
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 2: people are on the census. There's so many reasons why

1004
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 2: that's not right. We're also going to have a whole

1005
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: generation of children that are orphaned, and it's not just

1006
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: the elderly like it was in Australia. You know, I

1007
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: expect to a friend today who's in an Australian Indian.

1008
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: She was born in India and she said, in the

1009
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 2: last month four of her family members have died in

1010
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: India and two of them are in their fifties. When

1011
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 2: the resources medically are already stretched across the border in India,

1012
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: but even far more stretched in rural communities when something

1013
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 2: like this happens, like they just can't cope. It hurts

1014
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: my heart that we're not seeing this more. Because when

1015
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 2: Australia was going through a crisis, and it was of

1016
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 2: course the Bushbye crisis was huge, and not to compare

1017
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: the two, but it was all over the news, not

1018
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: just in Australia but everywhere. Like we had so many

1019
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: Americans who came on board to the relief front because

1020
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 2: their New Cycle twenty four seven was the Australian bushfire crisis.

1021
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: We're not seeing that here. And like my question too,

1022
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 2: and anyone in media is listening to this, why is that?

1023
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: Why can one community have sorry, I'm getting my soapbox

1024
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: like in one community, like we hear I'm take it

1025
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: a bit lighters the age, No, but like, why is that?

1026
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: Are we to sensitized because we need to to be

1027
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 2: able to cope with the fact that it's so unfair

1028
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: what's happening? Or did we see so many like poverty

1029
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: stricken photos of Indian children when we were younger through

1030
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, child sponsorship campaigns that to

1031
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: cope with those images, we just kind of say, oh,

1032
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 2: that's what happens in India and it's too big a

1033
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: problem and it's not my problem. But I'll put it

1034
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: forward to people that India accounts for one six of

1035
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: the world's population. And if you're not getting some invoices

1036
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,919
Speaker 2: paid right now, I'll tell you probably because the teams

1037
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 2: are in India. We are so inextricably linked to India,

1038
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 2: if not professionally, definitely personally. And so whether you jump

1039
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: on board with a relief front, I just which I

1040
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: would love you to do think in your life who

1041
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 2: may be connected to India, and if they're based in India,

1042
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: reach out to them, because there's nothing worse when you

1043
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 2: feel like you're going through crisis and overwhelmed both personally

1044
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 2: and medically economically, to feel alone.

1045
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it.

1046
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 3: I don't know a more apt way of saying, but

1047
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: for the grace of God, go I in this. You know,

1048
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 3: we are so fortunate to be where we are and

1049
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 3: to be born into the place that we are born into.

1050
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: These people did nothing to deserve what they're going through,

1051
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: and there's nothing about us that's better than them, you know,

1052
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: like that could be them, and if we were, then

1053
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 3: we would expect and pray and hope that someone would

1054
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 3: come to our aid. And I really think COVID's taught

1055
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: us one thing. It's that, you know, we are really

1056
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 3: one global family. We've got all these ridiculous borders that

1057
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 3: we put up in our world and say here's the line,

1058
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: this is ours, this is yours, But we are one

1059
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 3: human kind. And I know it sounds cliche, but I

1060
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 3: think COVID's taught us that more than anything. And we

1061
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 3: really do need to stop turning to the media for

1062
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: what matters most, and I feel like we've got a

1063
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: responsibility to educate ourselves on that. And we all put

1064
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 3: blinkers on, and I'm so guilty of this as well,

1065
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 3: of just looking at what's directly in front of us

1066
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: as we all over schedule and put one foot in

1067
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 3: front of the other. And so a big ask here

1068
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 3: is just to take the blinkers off, look at this

1069
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: Like it's hard to look at but it's the least

1070
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: we can do is to look at it and then

1071
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 3: think like, how can I help this in one way?

1072
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 3: Because it is those microactions for mass change, and this

1073
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 3: is going to be the only way this gets done.

1074
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: And I think that is so important, the microactions thing,

1075
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 1: because what it can be, really what can be a

1076
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: big obstacle to people actually doing something. I think Relief

1077
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: Run last year showed all of us how willing people

1078
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: are to do something to help. It's just that often

1079
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: they're so overwhelmed about which vehicle is going to be

1080
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: the right way to do it. It either is like

1081
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: if my donation isn't massive, it's not going to have

1082
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: an impact, or who do donate to or whe's it

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Speaker 1: going to go and all those kinds of things, And

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00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: I think Relief Run made it really simple. It makes

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00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: it really simple to jump on board and do what

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00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: you can with what you have. Where you are, anywhere

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00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: in the world. You can go for a run, you

1088
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: can go for a walk like it's just it really

1089
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 1: simplifies something that's really overwhelming. But the willingness I think

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00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: is there much more than you would expect. It's just

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00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: giving people a way to show that. And so my

1092
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: recommendation for this week is sign up, sign up. The

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00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: website is live. It's the longer weeken so the eleventh

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00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 1: to the thirteenth of June, so a couple of weeks away,

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00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 1: and there is really no excuse not to because you

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00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 1: don't have to be in a particular place, like explain

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00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: the actual logistics of it, Sammy.

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00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, this time we've added a few more flavors to

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Speaker 2: the offering. We have a three K kids run, we

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00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: have a five K, ten K and twenty one point

1101
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: one kilometer, and then you can also be about ass

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00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: and do what we call the trifecta, which is Joe's Inclusion.

1103
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 3: Which is just for Joe, just for Joe.

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00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: You can do the five, ten and twenty one kilometer

1105
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: over the entire week nd, and that's the trifecta, and

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00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 2: that's a pretty amazing challenge to kind of get that

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00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 2: all in over the weekend. But as Sarah said, anywhere, anytime,

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00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: and what made this so big last time is that

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00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: a lot of group runs happened, and so like people said, Okay,

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Speaker 2: how I'm going to meet you at Saturday AM at

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00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: Albert Park ten am. Let's go and do a half

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Speaker 2: marathon or a ten k, and then they shed it

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00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: with their communities and more and more, and we had

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00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: community events all over the world and we've definitely had

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams set up and we do that

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00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 2: through the back end and then people can align their

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00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 2: individual registration to that team in a drop down menu

1118
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: and it allows you then once you get the results,

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00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: to kind of go, okay, well where's the CZA team

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Speaker 2: And you can actually go the c'sa community collectively did

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00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: X amount of kilometers and we raise X amount of dollars,

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00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 2: like that's what our communities like impact was, And then

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Speaker 2: we can also give you the data of like, so

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00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: x amount of dollars, that's how far it goes into

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Speaker 2: this circumstance, so it's fifty dollars. He pays a registration

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00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: fee and then the relief front gives it as all

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00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 2: of it, all of it to a donation to World

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Speaker 2: Visioned Australia's India COVID nineteen a PL. And because I

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00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: have run across India and worked in partnership with World Vision,

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Speaker 2: I think I'm in a position to say, hand on

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00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: hard that money goes to the people on the ground.

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Speaker 2: You know, world Vision have had one of the longest

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00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 2: standing imprints within India and working with the community. In fact,

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00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 2: when they fund a community, they stay there typically twenty years,

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00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: and at the beginning, like they're heavily involved and they

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00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: hire staff members from their area, they train them, they

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00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 2: skill them. By the end of the twenty year cycle,

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00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 2: like the community is completely running it, calling all the shots,

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00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: and it might just be like they get, you know,

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00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: the financial contribution and a little bit of guidance or

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00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: expertise where they need it, and then they run it

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00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: on their own, so they're there for the long haul,

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00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 2: not just in these moments of crisis. I've spoken to

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00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 2: a lot of my friends who work for World Vision

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00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 2: India on the ground, and that's what's also like I'm

1146
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: holding onto too because they're sick or their family members

1147
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 2: are sick, and they're still working, like trying to do

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00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: something for their broader community. You know, it's a lot,

1149
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: but I can also say, like fifty dollars goes such

1150
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: a long way in these communities. If anyone has a

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00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 2: corporate organization that wants to get on board, because we're

1152
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: a nimble, small team, we can facilitate for you to

1153
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: make it a tax seductible donation. We'll set up a

1154
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: promo code in the back end that allows you to

1155
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 2: then register your individual participants. It might work for the

1156
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: corporate group. So you know, quantas smart wanting know a

1157
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: in Z you know George Bank.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to name names, but I'm going to.

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00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'm to name names, and I think we should

1160
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: applaud businesses that move really quickly because often bureaucracy gets

1161
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: in the way of swift movement. AI Australia has like

1162
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: totally just dominated this they I sent the CEO, Damon Damien,

1163
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: a text message at seven or eight pm on a

1164
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: Friday night, going, hey, I'm going to create the relief run.

1165
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: I know you've got team members in India, no pressure,

1166
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 2: but let me know if you want any affiliation. I

1167
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: got a text message at seven am on Saturday morning

1168
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 2: and he's like, we're in let's chat, and so off

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00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: the weekend. We chatted on the Monday morning. He's like,

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00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 2: I've just got got you to have a meeting with

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00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 2: a few people, and I'm eating my bolonnaise over like

1172
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: a zoom session. All of sudden realized it's like the

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: heads of all like the countries. I'm like, hey, Bolinnai

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00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: Bolonne is sitting away and they were just like, okay,

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 2: what can we do? Like I think careers gone on

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00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: board Samsung. I think like they might have got their

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00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: global ambassador on board, mister Beckham. But we'll see. Mic

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00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 2: Drop may have been writing some cooking notes to him

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00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: the other night, wasn't.

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Speaker 4: It's not my story to tell, So it's.

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00:58:54,080 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: It's total by the long story short, like we all

1182
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 2: can play a little part, and it's also really fun

1183
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: to move together. It's actually you'll benefit from going out

1184
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: for a five k run on a Saturday knowing that

1185
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: it's going to a good place and you're a part

1186
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 2: of something that's bigger than yourself. So get on board

1187
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: and listen.

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00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: You've become a singer this episode.

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Speaker 2: I know, I just wouldn't to tell me up again.

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Speaker 2: It kind of feels nice.

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00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 4: Can't be good at everything?

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Speaker 1: Girl?

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Speaker 2: Do you know that I was the leader of the

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00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 2: sopranos and I was at high school. It wasn't a

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00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 2: year level of forty nine, so they might have been

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00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: like scraping at the barrel.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, you guys are absolutely amazing. Thank you so

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00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: so much for joining and sharing so much wisdom and

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Speaker 1: laughter and joy and everyone in the neighborhood. It would

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00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: just be so wonderful if you could rally around relief

1201
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: run and show your support and also have an amazing

1202
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: time like who you meet such great people. Last year

1203
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: we had so so many new friends come and join

1204
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: at the Lake. And we'll include details across our socials

1205
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 1: of how you can get involved in some of the

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01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: community runs that you can maybe tack onto as well.

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Speaker 2: I can already tell you one because even though I

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01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: didn't ask for permission, I credit SEZ THEA as a

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01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: group that you can find up hearing this through the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to sign up through to SEEZ the A.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you're right, I did it. You're a group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thing. You just do what we can and

1213
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 2: have a lot of fun, like it's just such a

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01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 2: nice excuse to see people amazing.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my loves, we'll chat soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually quite surprised that we fitted that into an hour,

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01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: even though it was meant to be half an hour.

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Speaker 1: We could have gone for days if we've been able to.

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Speaker 1: Maybe lucky for you guys that we didn't. Such incredible women.

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Speaker 1: I feel so lucky to call them friends. And I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you can imagine how amazing the other five women

1223
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: on our trip were. I mean, we barely touched on

1224
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: them for all our guest bagging. But you'll actually hear

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01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: from a few of them as well in the coming

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Speaker 1: One of them you've already heard from Keminik Fapil, who's

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Speaker 1: also been a guest before. Please do consider registering for

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01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: Relief Run. You can walk, run, or even do nothing

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01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: at all with us on the weekend of the eleventh

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01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: to thirteenth of June, but your registration alone can make

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01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 1: such a huge impact, and I've popped some practical information

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: breaking down what that fifty dollars can do in the

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01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: show notes along with the registration link. We'll be doing

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Speaker 1: a community run in person in Melbourne again like we

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01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: did last year, that I would love to see some

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Speaker 1: of you at and we'll share in the Facebook group

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01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: when details are finalized. In the meantime, I hope you're

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01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: having a wonderful week and are seizing your Yay