1 00:00:05,526 --> 00:00:10,366 Speaker 1: from Mamma Mia Hi, I'm claire Murphy. Welcome to the quicky. 2 00:00:10,376 --> 00:00:14,386 Speaker 1: Getting you up to speed daily. The duke and duchess 3 00:00:14,386 --> 00:00:18,666 Speaker 1: of Cambridge have just completed their first official overseas royal 4 00:00:18,666 --> 00:00:22,166 Speaker 1: tour since the pandemic began in honour of the queen's 5 00:00:22,166 --> 00:00:27,146 Speaker 1: platinum jubilee. While we'd usually be inundated with pretty pictures 6 00:00:27,146 --> 00:00:31,116 Speaker 1: of kate's outfits and William interacting with the locals. This time, 7 00:00:31,126 --> 00:00:34,605 Speaker 1: the royal tour had a very different feel. Jamaica's prime 8 00:00:34,606 --> 00:00:37,326 Speaker 1: minister has told the duke and duchess of Cambridge that 9 00:00:37,326 --> 00:00:40,705 Speaker 1: his country is moving on saying it is Jamaica's destiny 10 00:00:40,705 --> 00:00:43,965 Speaker 1: to become an independent country, many hoping to remove the 11 00:00:43,965 --> 00:00:47,215 Speaker 1: queen as head of state demanding an apology from Britain 12 00:00:47,226 --> 00:00:50,546 Speaker 1: for its role in the slave trade. Today we look 13 00:00:50,546 --> 00:00:52,876 Speaker 1: at whether this tour could be the beginning of the 14 00:00:52,885 --> 00:00:56,116 Speaker 1: end for the monarchy outside of the UK and whether 15 00:00:56,116 --> 00:00:59,435 Speaker 1: royal tours are about to become a thing of the past. 16 00:01:02,626 --> 00:01:06,396 Speaker 1: On March 19 William and kate began their royal tour 17 00:01:06,396 --> 00:01:10,706 Speaker 1: of Belize Jamaica and the Bahamas. The weeklong trip was 18 00:01:10,706 --> 00:01:14,036 Speaker 1: supposed to celebrate 70 years of rule by her majesty, 19 00:01:14,036 --> 00:01:18,106 Speaker 1: Queen Elizabeth. The charm offensive set to shore up support 20 00:01:18,106 --> 00:01:22,156 Speaker 1: for the monarchy in the region. Following Barbados recent decision 21 00:01:22,266 --> 00:01:25,376 Speaker 1: to become a republic, the first country to replace the 22 00:01:25,376 --> 00:01:28,776 Speaker 1: queen as head of state since the early 19 nineties. 23 00:01:28,926 --> 00:01:33,336 Speaker 1: But even before it began, there was controversy, Many were 24 00:01:33,336 --> 00:01:36,606 Speaker 1: concerned that the royal tour was happening just as the 25 00:01:36,606 --> 00:01:39,896 Speaker 1: people of Ukraine were fighting for their lives that such 26 00:01:39,896 --> 00:01:43,586 Speaker 1: a fun and happy adventure was out of place. Considering 27 00:01:43,586 --> 00:01:45,246 Speaker 1: what Eastern europe was facing 28 00:01:45,746 --> 00:01:48,356 Speaker 1: the day of their departure from England. The Cambridge is, 29 00:01:48,356 --> 00:01:51,506 Speaker 1: were also forced to cancel one of their organised stops 30 00:01:51,506 --> 00:01:55,476 Speaker 1: in Belize because residents in Indian Creek where the cow 31 00:01:55,476 --> 00:01:58,986 Speaker 1: farm they were to visit was located, protested the visit 32 00:01:59,036 --> 00:02:02,056 Speaker 1: saying it was about colonialism and they did not have 33 00:02:02,056 --> 00:02:05,036 Speaker 1: permission to land the helicopter on their football field 34 00:02:05,726 --> 00:02:08,076 Speaker 1: while the trip to the local cacao farm was cancelled 35 00:02:08,076 --> 00:02:11,335 Speaker 1: and moved to another. Not everyone in Indian Creek was 36 00:02:11,335 --> 00:02:14,416 Speaker 1: happy about the diversion saying only a handful of the 37 00:02:14,416 --> 00:02:16,756 Speaker 1: people were against the royal couples visit 38 00:02:16,766 --> 00:02:21,145 Speaker 2: villagers from Indian Creek came out earlier today to basically 39 00:02:21,525 --> 00:02:23,536 Speaker 2: tell the nation of beliefs that 40 00:02:24,125 --> 00:02:24,585 Speaker 1: whatever 41 00:02:24,585 --> 00:02:26,435 Speaker 2: happened in terms of the visit 42 00:02:26,925 --> 00:02:30,395 Speaker 2: of Prince William to Indian Creek was not done in 43 00:02:30,395 --> 00:02:32,725 Speaker 2: the best interests of the community, but just a handful 44 00:02:32,726 --> 00:02:36,206 Speaker 2: of people made the decision for the community and I 45 00:02:36,206 --> 00:02:38,475 Speaker 2: think a lot of our villagers are not in support 46 00:02:38,476 --> 00:02:38,835 Speaker 2: of that. 47 00:02:39,125 --> 00:02:42,335 Speaker 1: After the itinerary change, William and kate jumped on a 48 00:02:42,335 --> 00:02:45,775 Speaker 1: plane and landed in Belize city kate wearing a royal 49 00:02:45,775 --> 00:02:48,936 Speaker 1: blue lace dress to match the country's flag and the 50 00:02:48,935 --> 00:02:52,345 Speaker 1: sapphire drop earrings and pendant that match her engagement ring. 51 00:02:52,536 --> 00:02:56,215 Speaker 1: The same necklace she wore whilst visiting Ukrainian President and 52 00:02:56,215 --> 00:02:57,035 Speaker 1: First Lady 53 00:02:57,125 --> 00:03:01,965 Speaker 1: Vladimir Zelensky, Olena Zelenska. She would continue this throughout the 54 00:03:01,965 --> 00:03:05,566 Speaker 1: trip wearing bright canary yellow. On arrival in Jamaica as 55 00:03:05,566 --> 00:03:09,495 Speaker 1: a nod to their flag. But again, controversy had preceded them. 56 00:03:09,546 --> 00:03:13,845 Speaker 1: 100 prominent Jamaicans wrote a letter that they delivered to 57 00:03:13,846 --> 00:03:15,245 Speaker 1: the British High Commission 58 00:03:15,326 --> 00:03:18,585 Speaker 1: calling on William and kate to apologise for British crimes 59 00:03:18,585 --> 00:03:19,736 Speaker 1: against humanity 60 00:03:19,826 --> 00:03:22,565 Speaker 1: and for the crown to pay reparations for the riches 61 00:03:22,566 --> 00:03:26,335 Speaker 1: they made from enslaved Africans in the plantation labour system. 62 00:03:26,645 --> 00:03:29,596 Speaker 1: The letter stated that they see no reason to celebrate 63 00:03:29,596 --> 00:03:32,196 Speaker 1: 70 years of the ascension of your grandmother to the 64 00:03:32,196 --> 00:03:35,946 Speaker 1: british throne. Because her leadership and that of her predecessors 65 00:03:35,956 --> 00:03:39,576 Speaker 1: has perpetuated the greatest human rights tragedy in the history 66 00:03:39,576 --> 00:03:40,616 Speaker 1: of humankind. 67 00:03:41,126 --> 00:03:43,885 Speaker 1: During her 70 years on the throne, they wrote, your 68 00:03:43,886 --> 00:03:47,006 Speaker 1: grandmother has done nothing to redress and atone for the 69 00:03:47,006 --> 00:03:50,466 Speaker 1: suffering of our ancestors that took place during her reign. 70 00:03:50,476 --> 00:03:54,666 Speaker 1: And or during the entire period of British trafficking of Africans, 71 00:03:54,806 --> 00:03:58,016 Speaker 1: enslavement indenture ship and colonization 72 00:03:58,626 --> 00:04:02,506 Speaker 1: protesters rallied in Kingston ahead of their arrival, calling out 73 00:04:02,506 --> 00:04:06,496 Speaker 1: their privilege, bringing no apologies, they are bringing no remorse. 74 00:04:06,766 --> 00:04:08,966 Speaker 1: Just come to say, Here I go, because I am. 75 00:04:09,636 --> 00:04:12,046 Speaker 1: It's called gentry privilege. I can just walk up in 76 00:04:12,046 --> 00:04:14,876 Speaker 1: your country because I own your country and I still 77 00:04:14,886 --> 00:04:16,826 Speaker 1: own your country and I can do whatever I want 78 00:04:16,826 --> 00:04:17,556 Speaker 1: to do with your country. 79 00:04:18,836 --> 00:04:24,596 Speaker 1: As the Cambridges traveled around Jamaica protesters followed holding signs 80 00:04:24,596 --> 00:04:29,186 Speaker 1: saying things like kings, queens and princesses belong in fairy tales, 81 00:04:29,195 --> 00:04:32,246 Speaker 1: not in Jamaica, the couple met with the Prime Minister 82 00:04:32,255 --> 00:04:35,845 Speaker 1: Andrew Holness and his wife Juliet. As the cameras flashed. 83 00:04:36,036 --> 00:04:40,065 Speaker 1: Mr Holness explained that Jamaica is moving towards independence, 84 00:04:42,726 --> 00:04:46,766 Speaker 1: a country that is very proud of our history, very 85 00:04:46,765 --> 00:04:48,635 Speaker 1: proud of what we have achieved 86 00:04:49,135 --> 00:04:50,645 Speaker 1: and we're moving on 87 00:04:51,325 --> 00:04:53,446 Speaker 1: and we intend to 88 00:04:54,126 --> 00:04:54,746 Speaker 1: a 10 89 00:04:55,226 --> 00:04:55,946 Speaker 1: in short 90 00:04:58,396 --> 00:05:00,966 Speaker 1: and fulfill our true ambitions 91 00:05:02,226 --> 00:05:05,736 Speaker 1: as an independent developed, prosperous 92 00:05:06,126 --> 00:05:09,896 Speaker 1: William and kate didn't respond in the moment, just nodded 93 00:05:09,896 --> 00:05:10,746 Speaker 1: their heads. 94 00:05:11,226 --> 00:05:14,406 Speaker 1: It seemed at this point the charm offensive was not 95 00:05:14,406 --> 00:05:18,326 Speaker 1: having the desired effect. The tour was further derailed when 96 00:05:18,325 --> 00:05:21,316 Speaker 1: social media lit up following the posting of a picture 97 00:05:21,315 --> 00:05:24,016 Speaker 1: of William and kate, the future king and Queen of 98 00:05:24,015 --> 00:05:27,166 Speaker 1: England shaking the hands of small black Children through a 99 00:05:27,166 --> 00:05:28,346 Speaker 1: chain link fence. 100 00:05:28,966 --> 00:05:31,966 Speaker 1: Now this isn't as it seemed the Children had run 101 00:05:31,966 --> 00:05:34,255 Speaker 1: to the fence as the couple arrived and they joyfully 102 00:05:34,255 --> 00:05:37,655 Speaker 1: reached out to kate. But the optics of that photo 103 00:05:37,656 --> 00:05:41,835 Speaker 1: considering the trip focus of colonisation and reparations for slavery 104 00:05:41,926 --> 00:05:45,755 Speaker 1: did not look good. Commentators like Omid Scobie back in 105 00:05:45,755 --> 00:05:49,515 Speaker 1: the UK, wondered how the hell palace organizers allowed that 106 00:05:49,515 --> 00:05:51,866 Speaker 1: moment to be out there in the world, that no 107 00:05:51,866 --> 00:05:55,106 Speaker 1: one thought to avoid that imagery saying more diversity on 108 00:05:55,106 --> 00:05:58,695 Speaker 1: the palace team would have ensured things like that didn't happen. 109 00:05:58,706 --> 00:06:02,576 Speaker 1: Prince William gave a speech but many say it fell 110 00:06:02,575 --> 00:06:05,916 Speaker 1: short of the apology. Those 100 prominent Jamaicans had called 111 00:06:05,916 --> 00:06:08,445 Speaker 1: for the appalling atrocity of slavery 112 00:06:08,926 --> 00:06:10,546 Speaker 1: forever stains our history. 113 00:06:11,896 --> 00:06:13,946 Speaker 1: I want to express my profound sorrow, 114 00:06:14,906 --> 00:06:16,445 Speaker 1: slavery was abhorrent 115 00:06:17,126 --> 00:06:18,686 Speaker 1: and it should never have happened 116 00:06:19,706 --> 00:06:22,286 Speaker 1: as they arrived in the Bahamas kate changed into a 117 00:06:22,286 --> 00:06:25,176 Speaker 1: light blue dress to again match the flag. But they 118 00:06:25,176 --> 00:06:29,296 Speaker 1: touched down knowing the Bahamas National Reparations Committee had released 119 00:06:29,296 --> 00:06:32,086 Speaker 1: a statement saying the Cambridge is and their family of 120 00:06:32,086 --> 00:06:36,586 Speaker 1: Royals and their government must acknowledge that their diverse economy 121 00:06:36,596 --> 00:06:39,746 Speaker 1: was built on the backs of their ancestors and then 122 00:06:39,825 --> 00:06:45,746 Speaker 1: they must pay. The Bahamian Reparations Commission has outlined a 123 00:06:45,746 --> 00:06:48,975 Speaker 1: 10 point plan for reparations, and the first point of 124 00:06:48,976 --> 00:06:52,205 Speaker 1: that plan is a full and formal apology by the crown. 125 00:06:52,216 --> 00:06:55,186 Speaker 1: They have the means to pay for their trip and 126 00:06:55,186 --> 00:06:57,216 Speaker 1: we know that they have the means because their whole 127 00:06:57,216 --> 00:06:59,046 Speaker 1: economy was built on the box 128 00:06:59,226 --> 00:07:00,636 Speaker 1: of the enslaved people 129 00:07:00,825 --> 00:07:04,736 Speaker 1: Of this land. The trip wrapped up on March 26, 130 00:07:04,746 --> 00:07:07,295 Speaker 1: but on the night before their plane returned them home, 131 00:07:07,445 --> 00:07:10,556 Speaker 1: Prince William wrote a statement reflecting on the tour and 132 00:07:10,556 --> 00:07:12,846 Speaker 1: the role of the Royal Family and the Commonwealth 133 00:07:13,226 --> 00:07:17,816 Speaker 1: Foreign tours are an opportunity to reflect. You learn so 134 00:07:17,816 --> 00:07:21,286 Speaker 1: much what is on the minds of Prime ministers, the 135 00:07:21,286 --> 00:07:25,446 Speaker 1: hopes and ambitions of school children the day to day challenges 136 00:07:25,456 --> 00:07:29,686 Speaker 1: faced by families and communities. I know that this tour 137 00:07:29,686 --> 00:07:31,886 Speaker 1: has brought into even sharper focus 138 00:07:32,126 --> 00:07:37,426 Speaker 1: questions about the past and the future in Belize Jamaica 139 00:07:37,436 --> 00:07:41,076 Speaker 1: and the Bahamas. That future is for the people to 140 00:07:41,076 --> 00:07:41,846 Speaker 1: decide upon. 141 00:07:42,326 --> 00:07:48,276 Speaker 1: This tour wasn't accompanied by the always glowing triumphant headlines 142 00:07:48,276 --> 00:07:51,866 Speaker 1: of royal tours of the past. In saying that some were, 143 00:07:51,876 --> 00:07:55,946 Speaker 1: hello magazine's front page included the headlines kate, the duchess 144 00:07:55,946 --> 00:07:59,686 Speaker 1: dazzles on royal tour perfectly in sync as they embrace 145 00:07:59,686 --> 00:08:01,086 Speaker 1: rich Jamaican culture 146 00:08:01,226 --> 00:08:03,746 Speaker 1: and the stories behind kate's winning wardrobe, 147 00:08:03,926 --> 00:08:08,336 Speaker 1: but those were equally balanced with other publications headlines like 148 00:08:08,346 --> 00:08:12,496 Speaker 1: William and kate's tour. Put the offensive in charm offensive. 149 00:08:12,506 --> 00:08:15,256 Speaker 1: So does this herald the beginning of the end of 150 00:08:15,256 --> 00:08:17,036 Speaker 1: the monarchy across the commonwealth. 151 00:08:17,226 --> 00:08:21,215 Speaker 1: Maddalena. Master stefano is the europe correspondent for Royal Central 152 00:08:21,226 --> 00:08:24,446 Speaker 1: and has written extensively about all of the world's royal families. 153 00:08:24,726 --> 00:08:28,736 Speaker 1: Maddalena. How was the tour viewed from a european perspective? 154 00:08:28,736 --> 00:08:31,996 Speaker 1: Was it a success or no, I think that it 155 00:08:32,006 --> 00:08:37,846 Speaker 1: was especially from a european perspective, it was quite severely 156 00:08:37,846 --> 00:08:41,646 Speaker 1: obscured by the situation in Ukraine 157 00:08:41,926 --> 00:08:44,836 Speaker 1: and in fact, that was one of the 158 00:08:44,926 --> 00:08:49,295 Speaker 1: issues that was brought up before the royal couple even 159 00:08:49,356 --> 00:08:52,035 Speaker 1: departed the United Kingdom. It was 160 00:08:53,026 --> 00:08:58,205 Speaker 1: is it really fair to do such a celebratory tour 161 00:08:58,206 --> 00:08:59,236 Speaker 1: right now 162 00:08:59,726 --> 00:09:04,346 Speaker 1: when Ukraine is being bombarded by its neighbor. 163 00:09:04,726 --> 00:09:09,826 Speaker 1: So I think that most people's focus was actually shifted 164 00:09:09,836 --> 00:09:10,636 Speaker 1: towards 165 00:09:11,126 --> 00:09:15,596 Speaker 1: Eastern europe rather than on the Caribbean tour. But putting 166 00:09:15,596 --> 00:09:19,296 Speaker 1: even that aside, I think that this tour had a 167 00:09:19,306 --> 00:09:23,716 Speaker 1: different feeling, perhaps it was because it was one of 168 00:09:23,716 --> 00:09:28,986 Speaker 1: the first state visit, official visits from the british Royals 169 00:09:28,996 --> 00:09:31,046 Speaker 1: anywhere in the world following 170 00:09:31,126 --> 00:09:32,046 Speaker 1: the pandemic 171 00:09:32,126 --> 00:09:36,345 Speaker 1: or maybe it is because with the Black Lives Matter movement, 172 00:09:36,826 --> 00:09:41,696 Speaker 1: questions about colonialism and the role that european countries have 173 00:09:41,696 --> 00:09:47,646 Speaker 1: had in colonialism has gained a lot of spotlight and attention? 174 00:09:48,026 --> 00:09:49,246 Speaker 1: So I think that 175 00:09:49,826 --> 00:09:53,746 Speaker 1: those were two main questions that 176 00:09:54,326 --> 00:09:57,906 Speaker 1: sort of framed the entire tour, Do you feel like 177 00:09:57,915 --> 00:09:59,546 Speaker 1: the queen's current 178 00:10:00,026 --> 00:10:03,285 Speaker 1: health status might also be feeding into this because people 179 00:10:03,285 --> 00:10:07,545 Speaker 1: do really love Queen Elizabeth, despite the controversies that surround 180 00:10:07,545 --> 00:10:10,366 Speaker 1: the british empire, do you think the fact that it 181 00:10:10,366 --> 00:10:13,526 Speaker 1: seems she's maybe close to handing the reins over might 182 00:10:13,526 --> 00:10:15,356 Speaker 1: also be feeding into this and people see it as 183 00:10:15,356 --> 00:10:17,246 Speaker 1: an opportunity to make change? 184 00:10:17,826 --> 00:10:22,616 Speaker 1: That is an interesting perspective. It may very well be 185 00:10:22,626 --> 00:10:27,646 Speaker 1: that people are seeing the imminent change in the british 186 00:10:27,646 --> 00:10:33,186 Speaker 1: monarchy as a way of changing themselves. However, the fact 187 00:10:33,186 --> 00:10:35,646 Speaker 1: that the Prince of Wales has, 188 00:10:35,726 --> 00:10:40,246 Speaker 1: for example, been in Barbados as Barbados became a republic. 189 00:10:40,626 --> 00:10:43,045 Speaker 1: He entered Barbados as 190 00:10:43,426 --> 00:10:47,345 Speaker 1: its future head of state and it left as a 191 00:10:47,926 --> 00:10:53,905 Speaker 1: british royal that had no place in the institutional structure 192 00:10:53,915 --> 00:10:54,846 Speaker 1: of the country 193 00:10:55,326 --> 00:11:00,476 Speaker 1: and he was very well received in Barbados for the ceremony. So, 194 00:11:00,486 --> 00:11:01,346 Speaker 1: I think that 195 00:11:01,826 --> 00:11:05,636 Speaker 1: it's more a question of the social change that is 196 00:11:05,636 --> 00:11:09,236 Speaker 1: happening globally, rather than something that has to do specifically 197 00:11:09,246 --> 00:11:12,556 Speaker 1: with the british monarchy. Is the monarchy itself changing in 198 00:11:12,556 --> 00:11:15,175 Speaker 1: response to that? I mean, we saw William and kate 199 00:11:15,176 --> 00:11:17,626 Speaker 1: do the things that we expect of a royal couple 200 00:11:17,626 --> 00:11:21,206 Speaker 1: on tour, visiting with lots of charities and Children's homes, etcetera, 201 00:11:21,626 --> 00:11:25,486 Speaker 1: but also we saw William make a speech regarding slavery 202 00:11:25,486 --> 00:11:30,035 Speaker 1: and release a statement regarding those countries that wish to 203 00:11:30,035 --> 00:11:32,606 Speaker 1: become independent from the crown. Do you think the monarchy 204 00:11:32,606 --> 00:11:34,436 Speaker 1: is starting to change in that way too. 205 00:11:35,026 --> 00:11:38,716 Speaker 1: I think so, I think very much so, in fact, 206 00:11:38,726 --> 00:11:42,136 Speaker 1: and many people have pointed out that despite 207 00:11:42,526 --> 00:11:44,445 Speaker 1: the fact that this was a 208 00:11:45,026 --> 00:11:49,545 Speaker 1: Toward to celebrate 70 years on the throne of the queen, 209 00:11:50,126 --> 00:11:53,836 Speaker 1: that the focus that the duke and duchess of Cambridge 210 00:11:53,836 --> 00:11:57,616 Speaker 1: had on this door was on topics that are much 211 00:11:57,616 --> 00:11:58,136 Speaker 1: more 212 00:11:58,726 --> 00:12:02,516 Speaker 1: relatable to the younger generation. The duchess of Cambridge gave 213 00:12:02,516 --> 00:12:07,366 Speaker 1: a speech in a primary school in the Bahamas about 214 00:12:07,366 --> 00:12:11,926 Speaker 1: mental health and about teachers and spoke about the mental 215 00:12:11,926 --> 00:12:17,356 Speaker 1: health toll that the pandemic separations had on Children and 216 00:12:17,366 --> 00:12:18,246 Speaker 1: elderly 217 00:12:18,326 --> 00:12:18,946 Speaker 1: people. 218 00:12:19,266 --> 00:12:24,446 Speaker 1: They focused very much on the environment, on sustainability. 219 00:12:24,826 --> 00:12:29,675 Speaker 1: They had this dive in the coral reef with organization 220 00:12:29,686 --> 00:12:34,545 Speaker 1: that takes care of reviving the coral reef. They had 221 00:12:34,545 --> 00:12:37,905 Speaker 1: a meeting in the Bahamas with the winner of one 222 00:12:37,905 --> 00:12:42,586 Speaker 1: of the five short prizes last year, who take innovative 223 00:12:42,586 --> 00:12:43,546 Speaker 1: approaches 224 00:12:43,926 --> 00:12:48,946 Speaker 1: to repopulating the coral reef in the Bahamas. So I 225 00:12:48,946 --> 00:12:53,436 Speaker 1: think that, yes, the monarchy is an institution that 226 00:12:53,826 --> 00:12:58,746 Speaker 1: takes cues from the past, but it has also shifted 227 00:12:59,126 --> 00:13:03,836 Speaker 1: its focus to issues that are a lot more contemporary 228 00:13:03,846 --> 00:13:05,336 Speaker 1: than they used to be. 229 00:13:06,586 --> 00:13:09,466 Speaker 1: The question is now whether the firm will see any 230 00:13:09,466 --> 00:13:12,465 Speaker 1: future benefit in allowing their young Royals to head out 231 00:13:12,466 --> 00:13:13,346 Speaker 1: on tour. Again, 232 00:13:13,826 --> 00:13:17,585 Speaker 1: some commentators say it may definitely see the palace reassess 233 00:13:17,586 --> 00:13:21,746 Speaker 1: future tours this from good morning Britain's correspondent, the way 234 00:13:21,746 --> 00:13:25,386 Speaker 1: in which events have unfolded on this tour, Palace officials 235 00:13:25,386 --> 00:13:29,706 Speaker 1: may now be rethinking about any potential future visits here 236 00:13:29,706 --> 00:13:32,006 Speaker 1: in Jamaica, the Duke and duchess have faced a lot 237 00:13:32,006 --> 00:13:32,676 Speaker 1: of tension. 238 00:13:32,926 --> 00:13:36,876 Speaker 1: But Maddalena says, even if the whole commonwealth becomes independent, 239 00:13:36,886 --> 00:13:39,655 Speaker 1: there's still a place for the monarchy. I think the 240 00:13:39,655 --> 00:13:43,326 Speaker 1: royal tools will continue to exist as long as the 241 00:13:43,326 --> 00:13:47,006 Speaker 1: monarchy exists, but I also think that this is a 242 00:13:47,016 --> 00:13:48,436 Speaker 1: pivotal point 243 00:13:48,826 --> 00:13:52,256 Speaker 1: in the vision that society and that the monarchy has 244 00:13:52,266 --> 00:13:56,226 Speaker 1: of society, which means that yes, younger Royals like the 245 00:13:56,226 --> 00:13:58,835 Speaker 1: Duke and duchess of Cambridge will continue to go on 246 00:13:58,836 --> 00:14:03,766 Speaker 1: tours will continue to meet with people all around the 247 00:14:03,766 --> 00:14:06,646 Speaker 1: globe and especially people in the commonwealth. 248 00:14:07,126 --> 00:14:11,925 Speaker 1: Let's even remember that the commonwealth doesn't only include countries 249 00:14:11,926 --> 00:14:15,116 Speaker 1: that have the queen as head of state. It also 250 00:14:15,116 --> 00:14:19,446 Speaker 1: includes countries that have become independent Republics, 251 00:14:19,926 --> 00:14:26,546 Speaker 1: but there's still hold economic, cultural and even affectionate ties 252 00:14:26,556 --> 00:14:28,236 Speaker 1: with the United Kingdom, 253 00:14:28,826 --> 00:14:29,936 Speaker 1: which means that 254 00:14:30,526 --> 00:14:33,826 Speaker 1: in a sense, whoever will be head of state will 255 00:14:33,826 --> 00:14:36,506 Speaker 1: also be the head of the commonwealth. So I think 256 00:14:36,506 --> 00:14:40,456 Speaker 1: that the british monarchy will have to rethink the way 257 00:14:40,456 --> 00:14:44,696 Speaker 1: that they engage with the commonwealth population. 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