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Speaker 1: I don't even feel guilty about it. Hello, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to you Beauty the Daily Podcast for your Face. I'mly Campbell.

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Speaker 1: I'm killing mccarm way. You being weird because it's the

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Speaker 1: end of the financial You're thirtieth of June, and that

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Speaker 2: My accountant sucks. I never get anything back. My accountant

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Speaker 1: I got audited a two years. Oh. I didn't even like.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know people that get audited. Well, I

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Speaker 1: textis yeah, this is not a financial podcast named Gowd,

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Speaker 1: although Kelly does a very good Kelly Math from time

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Speaker 1: was no, I think I've got some Kelly math in

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Speaker 1: another episode coming up soon. But you ask us questions,

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Speaker 1: a good old chat and we hope that our answers

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Speaker 1: help you. I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.

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Speaker 1: You ask pleny questions. So what are we doing today?

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Speaker 1: Kel all right?

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Speaker 2: So later on the episode, we do have a question

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Speaker 2: a milestone birthday. But first Cassidy wrote to us beauty

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Speaker 2: question is seasonal Perfume switching actually necessary. I've always won

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Speaker 2: the exact same cent year round, but friends say my

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Speaker 2: in different fragrances for winter and summer? Or is this

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Speaker 2: just clever marketing. Who's gonna tell Cassidy that her friends

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's the fragrance. No, I've got a lot to

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Speaker 1: say here, Cassidy. It's not necessary. Nothing is necessary. It's

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Speaker 1: not but there are caveats to that, as always, like

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Speaker 1: when Kelly and I met. If you're new here, MIAs

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Speaker 1: I was really excited. Anyway, we got Kelly on. She

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Speaker 1: first two months you were marinating and whatever fragrance you wore,

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Speaker 1: much if you're fraidagrance. But no, you can wear the

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Speaker 1: I don't agree it's your signature scent.

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Speaker 1: Like it feels like you're wearing a bikini in the snow.

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Speaker 2: Still, Look, fragrance is so heavy, but it's in intense.

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Speaker 1: You need something light, fruity, floral. No, you don't need

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Speaker 1: You can wear any fragrance you want.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, But this she's asking because her friends have said something.

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Speaker 1: So obviously, Cassidy, this is impossible. I'd need to know

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Speaker 1: your sense, yes, sir, I'd love to know. She's like

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Speaker 1: You might be wearing too much one spray. They know,

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Speaker 1: But I'm like you are like heady, woody, masculine fragrances.

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Speaker 1: Let's think more niche casid is. But Cassidy has a signature.

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Speaker 1: her makeup collection. Jane senters a Facebook DM.

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Speaker 2: they've served me well. But I'm turning forty next month,

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Speaker 2: Are there certain products or techniques I should retire and

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to Yeah, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Jane, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the fourth level. It's pretty great here, Kelly wouldn't

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Speaker 1: is a concealer because you naturally feel like you're tighter

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Speaker 1: it sets in fine lines. It just makes things look

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Speaker 1: more pronounced. I'm trying not to say awful words greasy, cakey, yes,

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Speaker 2: Last week were like Elba Andreas looks like actual bullsack.

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Speaker 1: Let's still do. No.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna just say, do you have a recommendation

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Speaker 2: what you've got on today? Because they look so dewy.

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Speaker 1: I actually have what I've got on today here, so

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Speaker 1: I have been on a journey. Generally you want to

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Speaker 1: go for more lightweight textures, a bit light reflecting, not sparkly,

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Speaker 1: how like some light reflecting or almost a highlighter. So

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Speaker 1: I have many that I've recommended over the years on here.

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Speaker 1: I love the rare Beauty under eye brightener, I love

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Speaker 1: the Revolution beauty. But the one I've got on today

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Speaker 1: and that I discovered recently is the Seam, which is

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Speaker 1: a Korean brand. It's the same concealer. It's tiny, it's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: I've bought three shades. Do you not profit for you? No,

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Speaker 1: let me just check. I have linkedinal link it obviously

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Speaker 1: in the show notes. It's probably the most full coverage

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Speaker 1: It's six dollars and forty eight stop and look. I

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Speaker 1: like it in my forties, but anyone younger can you

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Speaker 2: To put Obviously there was a real big but I

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Speaker 2: on the side of more liquid unless you're really oily.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but even like I'm way less oily than I was.

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Speaker 1: to yeah, dear lord, scaly, even like a tiny drop

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Speaker 1: so play around and like you're say, if it's working

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Speaker 1: after the break, host Tax, what you makeup packs? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Host Tax and Kelly, I need you to go first,

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Speaker 1: because I've got those Grandma heatless curls. Oh I thought

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Speaker 2: It actually is a little bit of a poor noodle anyway.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know about you. Are you a backsleeper

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Speaker 1: You've got it in your head. Why won't you just

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Speaker 1: You took your hair out after fizzy? Yeah, physic, it's fizzy.

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Speaker 2: painted on a fake toe? Again, excuse me, I stuck

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Speaker 1: So there's two places I could find stick on toenails,

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Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna like paint my nails. This is true.

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Speaker 1: And look it was the like fashion week was the instigator.

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Speaker 1: Why can't I just have my Kmart toes nails. You

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