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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is Mamma MIA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie. I hope you're not eating breakfast

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Speaker 2: right now because this story it might put you off.

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Speaker 2: In a long line of bizarro beauty trends, this one

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Speaker 2: is bloody shocking. Women are apparently applying period blood to

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Speaker 2: their skin as a face mask. Plus, as the year

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Speaker 2: draws to a close, the always curious words of the

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Speaker 2: year have started to emerge. But do these words really

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Speaker 2: capture the vibe of twenty twenty five? Before we get there,

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Speaker 2: here's Claire Murphy with the latest from the QUICKI newsroom

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Speaker 2: for Thursday, November twenty Thanks Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Meta has started sending warning messages to anyone holding an

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Speaker 1: account under the age of sixteen, telling them they have

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Speaker 1: two weeks to download any content before they cut them off.

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Speaker 1: Move in response to the Australian government legislation banning children

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Speaker 1: under the age of sixteen from having social media accounts,

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Speaker 1: including Meta's Facebook, Instagram and Threads, would mean the platforms

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Speaker 1: will begin archiving them from December four, a week earlier

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Speaker 1: than the December ten deadline. The warning to delete or

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Speaker 1: download any data from the soon to be archived accounts.

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Speaker 1: Also came with the suggestion that they provide contact details

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Speaker 1: for after they turned sixteen so that Meta can look

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Speaker 1: at reinstating them. The platform will be removing accounts their

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Speaker 1: most confident are under sixteen first, with users who want

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Speaker 1: to challenge the decision to undergo facial age scans from

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Speaker 1: video selfies or provide a form of government ID. The

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Speaker 1: checks will be done by a third party called Yote,

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Speaker 1: who do not store any data after the check is complete.

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Speaker 1: Melbourne's hard rockers Amel and the Sniffers took home four

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Speaker 1: Arias at the annual Ceremony in Sydney last night. The band,

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Speaker 1: who had to cancel their recent free live gig in

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Speaker 1: with the Best Group, Best Cover Art, Best Rock Album

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Speaker 1: and Album of the US gongs. Up and coming indie

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Speaker 1: producer Nina Jurachi won three gongs, including Best Independent Release,

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Speaker 1: I Love My Computer. Australian house music producer and DJ

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Speaker 1: Dom Dolla picked up two awards for Best Dance Electronic

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Speaker 1: Release and Global Impact legendary Sydney rock band Umi, which

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Speaker 1: indie pop star Missy Higgins won Best Adult Contemporary for

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Speaker 1: her album The Second Act, inspired by her divorce and

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Speaker 1: becoming a single mum, adding to her ten arias. Song

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Speaker 1: of the Year went to Girls via the Kid Laroi,

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Speaker 1: while Troy Sevn picked up Best Australian Live Act. Nineteen

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Speaker 1: people have been killed in a heavy Russian missile and

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Speaker 1: drone attack that struck an apartment building in the western

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian city of Tinople. Another sixty six were wounded in

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Speaker 1: the overnight strikes on Ukraine that targeted energy and transport infrastructure,

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Speaker 1: with very cold temper bridges. Officials say Russia launched more

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Speaker 1: in the attack. Poland and NATO member state bordering western

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Speaker 1: with a personal note from Archie and Lillabet.

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Speaker 3: I love the holiday season. It's about finding time to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in bracing traditions, I like this and making new

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Speaker 1: The trailer for the special, which will drop on December three,

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Speaker 1: a message to Santa from her kids, Archie and Lillabit.

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Speaker 1: While you can't see the whole thing, you can spot

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Speaker 1: that they claim to have been good and to travel safely.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. Next, I'm sorry women are putting what on

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Speaker 2: their faces they say. Don't believe everything you read online.

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Speaker 2: Just as an example, people smearing menstrual blood on their

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Speaker 5: All your bitches who are so terrified of aging and

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Speaker 5: doing literally everything you can except the most effective and

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Speaker 5: obvious thing in the world, using your period blood for

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Speaker 2: So I really hope you're not eating breakfast right now,

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Speaker 2: and apologies if you are. But apparently people are essentially

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Speaker 2: a sort of menstrual mask, if you will. Some describe

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Speaker 2: it as a spiritual ritual. Others claim its healing and

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Speaker 2: will improve skin. Menstrual blood is actually full of things

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Speaker 2: at all. Attitudes towards menstrual blood in recent years have changed, though,

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Speaker 2: once thought as an ikey, monthly inconvenience, period blood is

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Speaker 2: actually being reappropriated for a myriad of things. Did we

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Speaker 2: think that would include beauty treatments? Look no, but here

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Speaker 2: we are. Last year on the Quickie, we actually spoke

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Speaker 2: to the woman who's repurposing that time of the month

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Speaker 2: or picos. I'll link our episode on smart tampons in

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Speaker 2: the show notes back to the bathroom beauty counter though,

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Speaker 2: what are the pros, cons and concerns of adopting menstrual

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Speaker 2: masking pharmacists deeper? Canda has been looking into it deeper

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Speaker 2: level with me. Here are people actually putting this menstrual

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Speaker 2: blood on their faces? Yes, they are.

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Speaker 4: It's become quite popular if you catch it on social media.

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Speaker 2: What actually makes up menstrual blood? Because it's not just

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Speaker 2: like your run of the mill uniquurar and there's blood

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Speaker 2: that comes out. What are those proclaimed benefits that why

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Speaker 4: Now, when you say menstrual blood, you think it's just blood,

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Speaker 4: think about applying this to the face. But in terms

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Speaker 2: What is it that's in that content though, that they

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Speaker 4: What they've found in some of the studies is that

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Speaker 4: it does actually contain what we call stem cells that

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Speaker 4: They could develop into muscle cells, or blood cells, or

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Speaker 4: science behind it, that is potentially how that could work

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Speaker 4: theory behind it. I guess the problem is there haven't

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Speaker 2: And you mentioned there that they could be bacteria in

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Speaker 2: want to start popping it all over our face, Yes.

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Speaker 4: So I think the biggest risk is if somebody maybe

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Speaker 4: some sort, then that bacteria. You know, there are certain

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Speaker 4: know they don't cause any harm. But actually if you're

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Speaker 4: transferring some of that bacteria that comes out into the

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Speaker 4: and I think the the other risk is there is

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Speaker 4: I would suppose depending on the actual person that's using it.

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Speaker 4: If you're somebody that has other medical conditions, maybe immunocompromised

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Speaker 2: And when we talk about putting blood on our skin

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Speaker 2: where that is actually applicable. I'm thinking of things like

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Speaker 4: I don't know if some people may be confusing it

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Speaker 4: I think the big difference here is with vampire facials,

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Speaker 4: they use something called platelet rich plasma. So what happens there,

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Speaker 4: it's in a very controlled setting. The patient's blood is

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Speaker 4: then that's injected into the skin using fine needles. So

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Speaker 4: it's all done under sterile conditions by a professional. So

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Speaker 4: it is a lot different compared to menstrual masking, which

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Speaker 4: is sort of a DIY therapy.

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Speaker 2: Deeper is the logic here You've mentioned people think that

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Speaker 2: But is there another line of logic here where people think, well,

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Speaker 2: other bodily fluids have benefits and thinking of things like urea,

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Speaker 2: which we find in skin care products, we also find

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Speaker 2: it in urine. Are people sort of applying that logic

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Speaker 4: So possibly.

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Speaker 4: There is a long kind of cultured history around using

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Speaker 4: of drinking urine, which has been linked to potential health benefits,

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Speaker 4: but also applying urine to the skin. And again there

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Speaker 4: is a little bit of science behind this. We know

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Speaker 4: that there is urrea in the urine, and urea is

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Speaker 4: a product, like you said, that is found in a

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Speaker 4: lot of skincare products. But I think the main issue

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Speaker 4: less concentrated dose compared to the urrea that is found

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Speaker 4: in a lot of these skincare products, so it's very

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Speaker 4: unclear if it does have an effect or not. But

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Speaker 4: I think all of this essentially is down to personal preference,

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Speaker 4: taking it with maybe a pinch of salt that it

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Speaker 2: How would you describe twenty twenty five messy? Blissful? Maybe

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Speaker 2: there's a word plug from the zeitgeist that's more appropriate.

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Speaker 2: As the year draws to a close, the dictionaries have

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Speaker 2: But we think in this case it's probably more referring

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Speaker 2: captured the Zeitgeist, with their edition six' seven now heard

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Speaker 2: Over we aren't one hundred percent clear on its, origins

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Speaker 3: That six SEVEN i just bit on the.

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Speaker 2: Hardware it's. Done the rounds on TikTok And instagram videos

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Speaker 2: Dictionary they reckon parasocial sums up the vibe of twenty

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Speaker 2: meaning involvement or relating to a connection that someone feels

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Speaker 2: personal take on word. Of the year how's my mamma

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Speaker 2: year is chaos because new city, and new.

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Speaker 6: Job new life my word of the year Is weights

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Speaker 1: In my Life because all i'm hearing about and all that's.

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Speaker 4: Over my ALGORITHM is that i need.

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Speaker 5: It for longevity.

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Speaker 1: Famously is a new word of the year because it

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Speaker 2: But really cool all the cool kids.

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Speaker 4: I achieved that we've still got.

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Speaker 6: FIVE weeks surrender i had a baby at the end of,

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Speaker 6: Gen z tumultuous it has been.

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Speaker 1: Rug's been pulled. From underneath you really finger Days and.

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Speaker 2: five weeks, Still to go i'm not quite ready to

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Speaker 2: immortalize twenty twenty five in one. Word just yet if

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Speaker 2: you've already settled on your word, of, the year though

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Speaker 2: for taking some time to feed your mind. With Us

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Speaker 2: today the quiki is Produced By, Me Taylor, strano Ilaria Brophy,

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Speaker 2: and claire murphy with Audio Production. By Lou hill

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