1 00:00:10,745 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:19,225 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. 4 00:00:21,025 --> 00:00:24,305 Speaker 1: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disturbed. 5 00:00:24,025 --> 00:00:26,385 Speaker 3: Laurels for spraying groundbreaking? 6 00:00:26,665 --> 00:00:28,425 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have to do it. 7 00:00:28,505 --> 00:00:29,745 Speaker 4: You live for fashion. 8 00:00:31,105 --> 00:00:33,745 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 9 00:00:33,825 --> 00:00:36,465 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. 10 00:00:36,505 --> 00:00:38,425 Speaker 1: I'm Lely Campbellin every week, I chat. 11 00:00:38,185 --> 00:00:40,105 Speaker 2: To an expert who helps us work out how to 12 00:00:40,145 --> 00:00:42,345 Speaker 2: get more out of the clothes we already own and 13 00:00:42,425 --> 00:00:43,545 Speaker 2: tells us what is and. 14 00:00:43,545 --> 00:00:46,705 Speaker 1: Isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, I'm joined by 15 00:00:46,785 --> 00:00:47,785 Speaker 1: Aaron Cadwood. 16 00:00:47,865 --> 00:00:50,865 Speaker 2: She's a creative director with over fifteen years in the 17 00:00:50,905 --> 00:00:55,025 Speaker 2: fashion industry. She has styled shoots for GQ, curated fashion 18 00:00:55,065 --> 00:00:55,825 Speaker 2: shows in New. 19 00:00:55,745 --> 00:00:58,745 Speaker 1: York, and is now using all that knowledge. 20 00:00:58,265 --> 00:01:02,545 Speaker 2: To create luxury tailored suits for just us girls. Now 21 00:01:02,545 --> 00:01:04,985 Speaker 2: we're finally more than halfway through winter, and I'm so 22 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:08,105 Speaker 2: happy because I hate winter shoes. I find them hard 23 00:01:08,145 --> 00:01:11,025 Speaker 2: to style. I don't know what him to wear. I 24 00:01:11,145 --> 00:01:13,665 Speaker 2: just want to slide. I want something open that is easy. 25 00:01:13,945 --> 00:01:15,785 Speaker 2: But we need to keep our feet warm, so Erin 26 00:01:15,825 --> 00:01:17,705 Speaker 2: and I are going to chat about what shoes we're 27 00:01:17,745 --> 00:01:21,105 Speaker 2: wearing in winter, what shoes make a great capsule collection 28 00:01:21,145 --> 00:01:23,305 Speaker 2: when it comes to footwear, and how long to make 29 00:01:23,305 --> 00:01:24,905 Speaker 2: your pants if you're getting them taken up so they 30 00:01:24,905 --> 00:01:27,625 Speaker 2: go with every single pair of shoes. Eron, Welcome to 31 00:01:27,705 --> 00:01:31,065 Speaker 2: Nothing to wear. Thank you for coming all the way here. 32 00:01:31,065 --> 00:01:33,985 Speaker 2: Now listen, I ask new guests two general questions before 33 00:01:33,985 --> 00:01:36,385 Speaker 2: we get into the topic, So let's start with those. 34 00:01:36,625 --> 00:01:39,265 Speaker 2: Can you describe your own style in three words? And 35 00:01:39,305 --> 00:01:40,705 Speaker 2: what are those words and why? 36 00:01:40,945 --> 00:01:45,305 Speaker 4: I'd probably say eclectic. I'd like to really pull references 37 00:01:45,345 --> 00:01:47,705 Speaker 4: from heaps of different places. 38 00:01:47,185 --> 00:01:49,145 Speaker 2: And put them all to everyone outfit and put them. 39 00:01:51,465 --> 00:01:54,385 Speaker 4: Or who I am that day. I would also say 40 00:01:55,025 --> 00:01:58,865 Speaker 4: self referential. For that reason, the outfit either speaks about 41 00:01:58,905 --> 00:02:02,785 Speaker 4: itself or I take my personal style very seriously, and 42 00:02:02,905 --> 00:02:05,985 Speaker 4: those things are really expressive of who I'm feeling that 43 00:02:06,145 --> 00:02:08,665 Speaker 4: day or what I need to be that day. 44 00:02:08,905 --> 00:02:11,945 Speaker 2: That is a really good term that yes, can apply 45 00:02:12,065 --> 00:02:13,785 Speaker 2: to so many things like that. 46 00:02:13,865 --> 00:02:18,225 Speaker 4: Yeah, I never had it and then tailored why it 47 00:02:18,265 --> 00:02:20,585 Speaker 4: would have to be right? It has to be. I 48 00:02:20,625 --> 00:02:23,025 Speaker 4: found out quite a few years ago that just tailored 49 00:02:23,025 --> 00:02:26,225 Speaker 4: pieces look really good on me. The structure everyone. 50 00:02:26,545 --> 00:02:30,585 Speaker 2: Yeah, tailoring just gives a vibe. It doesn't have to 51 00:02:30,585 --> 00:02:32,025 Speaker 2: be a tailored suit. You don't have to be going 52 00:02:32,065 --> 00:02:34,225 Speaker 2: to an office, but just good tailoring. 53 00:02:34,465 --> 00:02:39,265 Speaker 4: Yeah, even just like crisp collared shirt. That structure around 54 00:02:39,265 --> 00:02:42,025 Speaker 4: my face I think just really works instead of anything 55 00:02:42,065 --> 00:02:42,585 Speaker 4: too frillly. 56 00:02:43,145 --> 00:02:45,345 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm not a frill that's maybe have a 57 00:02:45,385 --> 00:02:46,945 Speaker 2: fill on the bottom, you're right around the face. 58 00:02:46,985 --> 00:02:49,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love those all right. 59 00:02:49,265 --> 00:02:52,345 Speaker 2: The theory that we believe that most women wear a 60 00:02:52,385 --> 00:02:54,825 Speaker 2: smaller portion of their wardrobe. So there's the ninety percent 61 00:02:54,865 --> 00:02:56,905 Speaker 2: that you love but you don't reach for all the time. 62 00:02:57,305 --> 00:02:59,065 Speaker 2: The ten percent you reach for all the time. What's 63 00:02:59,105 --> 00:03:00,705 Speaker 2: in your ten percent or. 64 00:03:01,065 --> 00:03:03,465 Speaker 4: The day to day is like a long skirt and 65 00:03:03,505 --> 00:03:06,625 Speaker 4: a blazer, okay, And so I feel like that gives 66 00:03:06,665 --> 00:03:10,465 Speaker 4: me the core of getting everyone. And then I can 67 00:03:10,665 --> 00:03:13,265 Speaker 4: chuck on you know, snipes or boots or whatever. 68 00:03:13,425 --> 00:03:15,185 Speaker 2: So it's a versatile kind of bass layer. 69 00:03:15,625 --> 00:03:18,785 Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, it's always kind of like a long or 70 00:03:18,825 --> 00:03:20,865 Speaker 4: a three quartered skirt and. 71 00:03:20,905 --> 00:03:21,985 Speaker 1: You love a maxi skirt. 72 00:03:22,185 --> 00:03:25,665 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really loving them at the moment. And then yeah, 73 00:03:25,905 --> 00:03:28,225 Speaker 4: just always putting on a blazer. It can be vintage, 74 00:03:28,345 --> 00:03:30,225 Speaker 4: it can be a little over do you think you 75 00:03:30,305 --> 00:03:34,625 Speaker 4: have don't make me calm, I don't expose to I mean, 76 00:03:34,665 --> 00:03:37,265 Speaker 4: it's your vibe, it's your fe Sure, I think you know. 77 00:03:37,505 --> 00:03:40,185 Speaker 4: I've got a few of my personal collection, but now 78 00:03:40,265 --> 00:03:42,705 Speaker 4: I have access to so many all the time. 79 00:03:42,905 --> 00:03:46,465 Speaker 2: Well, it's dangerous and if people are watching on YouTube, 80 00:03:46,505 --> 00:03:48,985 Speaker 2: we did not both plan to wear checked blue. 81 00:03:48,985 --> 00:03:52,985 Speaker 1: And like army greens. So let's get into the topic. 82 00:03:52,985 --> 00:03:55,105 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about what is arguably the last 83 00:03:55,145 --> 00:03:57,825 Speaker 2: step in someone's process of getting ready, but possibly the 84 00:03:57,865 --> 00:04:02,985 Speaker 2: most important footwear shoes. I don't think I can think 85 00:04:02,985 --> 00:04:06,065 Speaker 2: of another word, but it's always compers scene. We're still 86 00:04:06,065 --> 00:04:10,105 Speaker 2: in the depths of winter, So what is your footwear situation? 87 00:04:10,505 --> 00:04:13,505 Speaker 2: And in a bigger picture kind of this this winter's 88 00:04:13,705 --> 00:04:14,705 Speaker 2: footwear trends. 89 00:04:15,785 --> 00:04:19,465 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just got a pair of knee high boots. 90 00:04:19,585 --> 00:04:20,825 Speaker 1: Are the ones you're wearing one of the. 91 00:04:20,865 --> 00:04:23,105 Speaker 4: Ones I'm wearing. I'm really loving the clip. 92 00:04:23,745 --> 00:04:26,145 Speaker 1: Chocolate animal is that? I mean it's not real. 93 00:04:26,025 --> 00:04:27,825 Speaker 4: Croc No, it's like a faux cross. 94 00:04:27,865 --> 00:04:28,665 Speaker 1: It's very cool. 95 00:04:29,025 --> 00:04:30,865 Speaker 4: I wanted something with a little bit of depth and 96 00:04:30,985 --> 00:04:34,185 Speaker 4: interesting pattern. I'm wearing a lot of like that knee 97 00:04:34,225 --> 00:04:37,825 Speaker 4: high because, as I said, I wear long skirts and 98 00:04:37,905 --> 00:04:40,665 Speaker 4: I just don't want that ankle cut off. 99 00:04:41,145 --> 00:04:41,625 Speaker 1: Interesting. 100 00:04:41,785 --> 00:04:44,705 Speaker 4: And the row of flesh, yeah, when it's at an 101 00:04:44,705 --> 00:04:48,385 Speaker 4: awkward level. I love the row flesh. When it's a ballet. 102 00:04:48,185 --> 00:04:51,505 Speaker 1: Flat, No, I know exactly what you mean. 103 00:04:51,625 --> 00:04:54,025 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just wanted to be a seamless line. 104 00:04:54,345 --> 00:04:57,545 Speaker 4: So this kind of comes off the back of I 105 00:04:57,585 --> 00:05:00,785 Speaker 4: would say, like motorcycle boots was the trend over the 106 00:05:00,865 --> 00:05:05,025 Speaker 4: last few years. Everyone's wearing those this winter. But the 107 00:05:05,105 --> 00:05:08,785 Speaker 4: low profile sneaker, you know, evolution from the Samba and 108 00:05:08,865 --> 00:05:13,385 Speaker 4: all the brands around that style is super popular at 109 00:05:13,425 --> 00:05:13,985 Speaker 4: the moment. 110 00:05:13,825 --> 00:05:16,425 Speaker 2: So less about the chunky and more like the honest Suker, Tiger, 111 00:05:16,505 --> 00:05:19,985 Speaker 2: the Sumber, So they're like more the Tokyo's. Yeah, it 112 00:05:19,985 --> 00:05:24,665 Speaker 2: makes me feel like like kind of retro seventies sneaker vibe, Yeah, 113 00:05:24,745 --> 00:05:26,665 Speaker 2: instead of the chunky eighties dad sneaker. 114 00:05:26,905 --> 00:05:29,225 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think seventies and I love to sit in 115 00:05:29,265 --> 00:05:33,265 Speaker 4: a reference of seventies. Anything like late sixties, early seventies 116 00:05:33,345 --> 00:05:36,465 Speaker 4: is really my vibe. So I'm loving that everything is 117 00:05:36,585 --> 00:05:39,105 Speaker 4: very like seventies coded at the moment. Yeah, even the 118 00:05:39,145 --> 00:05:42,825 Speaker 4: big sunglasses like the over oversized sunglasses that are kind 119 00:05:42,865 --> 00:05:43,945 Speaker 4: of orange tinted. 120 00:05:44,105 --> 00:05:46,065 Speaker 1: Me too. It's so nice to see some color happening 121 00:05:46,105 --> 00:05:48,105 Speaker 1: in sunny's. Yeah. Not much of a color girl, but 122 00:05:48,145 --> 00:05:50,305 Speaker 1: I can do it on a small accessory. 123 00:05:50,505 --> 00:05:51,145 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's good. 124 00:05:51,305 --> 00:05:54,185 Speaker 2: What do you think is the most versatile option when 125 00:05:54,225 --> 00:05:56,785 Speaker 2: it comes to a winter shoe? Maybe firstly for yourself 126 00:05:56,785 --> 00:05:59,265 Speaker 2: and then just in general, because I hate winter. 127 00:05:59,025 --> 00:06:02,265 Speaker 1: Shoes They're so hard. Yeah, I like summer shoes. 128 00:06:02,505 --> 00:06:05,465 Speaker 4: I do like a summer shoe. I think I often 129 00:06:05,985 --> 00:06:08,625 Speaker 4: just wear all of my stuff pretty much all the time. 130 00:06:08,785 --> 00:06:09,105 Speaker 1: Me too. 131 00:06:09,185 --> 00:06:11,305 Speaker 2: But when I say that, it's like my birken stocks 132 00:06:11,345 --> 00:06:13,865 Speaker 2: with exercise socks to drop my son at school. It's 133 00:06:13,905 --> 00:06:16,425 Speaker 2: not intentional, it's not sheic. I'm just like I just 134 00:06:16,465 --> 00:06:17,305 Speaker 2: slides are easy. 135 00:06:17,505 --> 00:06:20,025 Speaker 4: I would say my every day go to no matter 136 00:06:20,065 --> 00:06:23,105 Speaker 4: what is my loafer. Okay, I have a leather pair 137 00:06:23,145 --> 00:06:25,585 Speaker 4: of loafers, really good. I got them made in Portugal 138 00:06:25,985 --> 00:06:28,385 Speaker 4: and they are just perfect. 139 00:06:27,945 --> 00:06:30,865 Speaker 1: Pocked black and you just wear them with everything. 140 00:06:30,545 --> 00:06:34,745 Speaker 4: Classic pretty much, great arch support, white toe box. It's 141 00:06:34,785 --> 00:06:35,865 Speaker 4: just nice, beautiful. 142 00:06:36,265 --> 00:06:39,225 Speaker 2: We often get I mean, I moderate the nothing to 143 00:06:39,265 --> 00:06:41,305 Speaker 2: Wear community group, and a lot of people say I 144 00:06:41,345 --> 00:06:43,105 Speaker 2: don't know how to wear loafers because I think they 145 00:06:43,185 --> 00:06:46,065 Speaker 2: think of it so literally as like what men would 146 00:06:46,065 --> 00:06:48,545 Speaker 2: wear with a suit. But I love loafers and I 147 00:06:48,545 --> 00:06:51,105 Speaker 2: think they're so versatile. So what would you wear them with. 148 00:06:51,305 --> 00:06:54,105 Speaker 4: A tailored pair of trousers is a good one. I 149 00:06:54,145 --> 00:06:56,785 Speaker 4: always think that you have to look at the relationship 150 00:06:56,945 --> 00:07:01,425 Speaker 4: between the shoe and the hemline. Yes, and so I 151 00:07:01,505 --> 00:07:05,145 Speaker 4: actually think if you're getting into loafers and probably have 152 00:07:05,265 --> 00:07:08,545 Speaker 4: a thing about this during springtime, it's probably easier to 153 00:07:08,625 --> 00:07:11,625 Speaker 4: wear them with sock and like shorts or a skirm 154 00:07:12,185 --> 00:07:13,825 Speaker 4: something I love that. 155 00:07:14,145 --> 00:07:16,385 Speaker 1: I love the look. I I can't. 156 00:07:16,105 --> 00:07:18,505 Speaker 4: Do it, can't have legs out. Well, then you can 157 00:07:18,505 --> 00:07:19,545 Speaker 4: do it with a long skirt. 158 00:07:19,625 --> 00:07:19,865 Speaker 1: Yeah. 159 00:07:19,865 --> 00:07:22,345 Speaker 2: I often do a loafer with a Maxi skirt or 160 00:07:22,385 --> 00:07:24,225 Speaker 2: even in winter try and get more out of my wardrobe. 161 00:07:24,225 --> 00:07:25,985 Speaker 2: I'll be wearing like a Maxi dress. It might be 162 00:07:26,025 --> 00:07:28,065 Speaker 2: like a pretty floral, but I'll put a big long 163 00:07:28,105 --> 00:07:29,985 Speaker 2: gray chunky knit and a loafer. 164 00:07:30,265 --> 00:07:31,505 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's goods. 165 00:07:32,425 --> 00:07:34,065 Speaker 2: And even I think like if you did like a 166 00:07:34,065 --> 00:07:36,145 Speaker 2: black legging, like a dressy legging or whatever where you 167 00:07:36,225 --> 00:07:38,385 Speaker 2: lu lemon if you want, and then a long blazer 168 00:07:38,905 --> 00:07:40,825 Speaker 2: and then your loafer and people just think they're like nice. 169 00:07:41,265 --> 00:07:44,505 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I like that looks all them. People realize 170 00:07:44,545 --> 00:07:46,465 Speaker 4: they are good and like, if you want to do 171 00:07:46,505 --> 00:07:48,465 Speaker 4: a chunky loafer, you can. If you want to do 172 00:07:48,545 --> 00:07:50,865 Speaker 4: a slim sort of slide on loafer. 173 00:07:50,825 --> 00:07:52,865 Speaker 2: I'm more of a slim classic. You know, it's got 174 00:07:52,865 --> 00:07:54,585 Speaker 2: a back on it. But I can't do that chunky 175 00:07:54,625 --> 00:07:58,185 Speaker 2: Prata esque loafer that has been everywhere. It feels too school, 176 00:07:59,985 --> 00:08:01,225 Speaker 2: which is kind of the vibe. 177 00:08:01,385 --> 00:08:03,385 Speaker 4: I think. Yeah, for so many people, that is the 178 00:08:03,425 --> 00:08:06,225 Speaker 4: point the brat stole Yes school girl, that is kind 179 00:08:06,265 --> 00:08:07,025 Speaker 4: of their vibe. 180 00:08:07,185 --> 00:08:10,145 Speaker 2: Talk to me about high heels because the footwear category 181 00:08:10,185 --> 00:08:12,785 Speaker 2: has had quite the revolution, and I think that covid 182 00:08:12,785 --> 00:08:15,545 Speaker 2: Lockdown had a lot to do with that. What are 183 00:08:15,585 --> 00:08:17,585 Speaker 2: you seeing in high heels in terms of what people 184 00:08:17,625 --> 00:08:20,105 Speaker 2: are wearing or are they wearing them? Are they kind 185 00:08:20,145 --> 00:08:22,545 Speaker 2: of over in that they'll never be as popular as 186 00:08:22,545 --> 00:08:23,225 Speaker 2: they were before. 187 00:08:23,505 --> 00:08:27,265 Speaker 4: Maybe it's just my Instagram algorithm, but I'm seeing a 188 00:08:27,465 --> 00:08:31,105 Speaker 4: lot of women call the heel back. 189 00:08:31,705 --> 00:08:33,505 Speaker 1: They want it back. 190 00:08:33,545 --> 00:08:36,625 Speaker 4: They say, you need to before you go out, you 191 00:08:36,705 --> 00:08:38,225 Speaker 4: need to learn to walk in them. 192 00:08:39,545 --> 00:08:42,025 Speaker 1: You know, you really need because the generation just hasn't 193 00:08:42,025 --> 00:08:42,385 Speaker 1: done it. 194 00:08:42,585 --> 00:08:44,945 Speaker 4: They haven't done it, and like I have a you know, 195 00:08:44,985 --> 00:08:47,585 Speaker 4: my mum always jokes that I've been able to run 196 00:08:47,585 --> 00:08:49,225 Speaker 4: in hills before I could run. 197 00:08:49,385 --> 00:08:51,145 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like a ride of passage where I 198 00:08:51,385 --> 00:08:53,105 Speaker 2: kind of first started going out and you got your 199 00:08:53,105 --> 00:08:55,345 Speaker 2: license and you could drink and you were just. 200 00:08:55,265 --> 00:08:56,145 Speaker 1: Like tottering around. 201 00:08:56,185 --> 00:08:57,945 Speaker 2: But we work with a lot of young women here 202 00:08:57,985 --> 00:09:00,065 Speaker 2: and they just everyone's just like nah. 203 00:08:59,705 --> 00:09:03,385 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can understand why I love it because I 204 00:09:03,425 --> 00:09:07,505 Speaker 4: love feeling like you walk differently when you're in a 205 00:09:07,545 --> 00:09:09,265 Speaker 4: per even if it's a small little kid. 206 00:09:09,225 --> 00:09:11,025 Speaker 2: Ye to kit and heel you've got to block he 207 00:09:11,065 --> 00:09:14,145 Speaker 2: along those boots, which is very wearable. So maybe not 208 00:09:14,145 --> 00:09:16,945 Speaker 2: the six inch stilettos. I mean, I love the look. 209 00:09:17,105 --> 00:09:19,705 Speaker 4: There's a time for it, yeah, but I just think 210 00:09:19,705 --> 00:09:22,665 Speaker 4: when you go to the oscars, you just need to 211 00:09:22,665 --> 00:09:25,025 Speaker 4: find the right moment. But I love kind of like 212 00:09:25,985 --> 00:09:27,985 Speaker 4: is it the fourth centimeter? Kind of like that mid 213 00:09:28,145 --> 00:09:28,545 Speaker 4: me too. 214 00:09:28,585 --> 00:09:30,305 Speaker 2: I'm all about when I go on a website, now 215 00:09:30,505 --> 00:09:32,945 Speaker 2: I'm searching for a shoe of like you know, still 216 00:09:32,985 --> 00:09:35,585 Speaker 2: it like point or pump and then I'll do mead. 217 00:09:35,665 --> 00:09:37,425 Speaker 2: I always search to mid heere and I'm like, oh 218 00:09:37,465 --> 00:09:38,545 Speaker 2: my god, I'm such a grandma. 219 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:39,665 Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna though. 220 00:09:39,745 --> 00:09:42,105 Speaker 4: I was getting to that age as well. But I 221 00:09:42,185 --> 00:09:45,825 Speaker 4: love a really comfortable heel again, wide toe box. I 222 00:09:45,905 --> 00:09:50,305 Speaker 4: love the I would call them thong heels, the ones 223 00:09:50,345 --> 00:09:53,145 Speaker 4: where they like look like the pair of Aviana thongs. 224 00:09:53,145 --> 00:09:55,425 Speaker 4: And then yes, but just with like a leather or something. 225 00:09:55,465 --> 00:09:57,025 Speaker 4: I don't really need it to be in rubber. 226 00:09:57,305 --> 00:09:57,545 Speaker 3: No. 227 00:09:57,625 --> 00:09:59,705 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you put a heel on us. 228 00:09:59,545 --> 00:10:02,505 Speaker 4: And like, this generation has it so easy. They're like 229 00:10:02,585 --> 00:10:06,545 Speaker 4: Louis Biton's miss these are the most comfortable pair of shoes. 230 00:10:06,785 --> 00:10:10,385 Speaker 4: We had to suffer through painstaking heel It's true. 231 00:10:10,745 --> 00:10:13,025 Speaker 2: And also back in the day, you know, oftentimes if 232 00:10:13,065 --> 00:10:14,985 Speaker 2: you were wearing a really high heel, you might be 233 00:10:15,025 --> 00:10:17,505 Speaker 2: going out somewhere. And when I was when I was young, 234 00:10:17,865 --> 00:10:19,465 Speaker 2: there was no uber, so you just try to flag 235 00:10:19,505 --> 00:10:20,785 Speaker 2: down taxis and run around the city. 236 00:10:20,825 --> 00:10:22,905 Speaker 1: Now you just call the uber and you stand there, right, 237 00:10:22,985 --> 00:10:25,705 Speaker 1: it's door to door. Yeah, it's stored to door. Yeah. 238 00:10:25,705 --> 00:10:27,865 Speaker 2: Look, I'm interested to see what happens with heels. I 239 00:10:27,905 --> 00:10:29,985 Speaker 2: think I'm so pro heel because I love them and 240 00:10:30,025 --> 00:10:31,305 Speaker 2: I wore them a lot when I was younger. But 241 00:10:31,345 --> 00:10:34,425 Speaker 2: I'm also very happy with the evolution of more stylish 242 00:10:34,465 --> 00:10:38,025 Speaker 2: flatter footwear. So now we've got more options whereas us like, oh, 243 00:10:38,105 --> 00:10:40,625 Speaker 2: flats depending on what you did, but now there's so 244 00:10:40,705 --> 00:10:43,625 Speaker 2: many phenomenal flats or kitten heels that you don't have 245 00:10:43,705 --> 00:10:55,345 Speaker 2: to do high high heels. Okay, So we love a 246 00:10:55,425 --> 00:10:58,465 Speaker 2: statement shoe, whether it's you know, a loud color or 247 00:10:58,505 --> 00:11:02,065 Speaker 2: a cowboy boot. What are your styling tips for a 248 00:11:02,145 --> 00:11:05,825 Speaker 2: brave shoe choice? Like, do we ever make our shoe 249 00:11:05,905 --> 00:11:06,905 Speaker 2: the center of the outfit? 250 00:11:06,945 --> 00:11:07,265 Speaker 1: Attention? 251 00:11:07,425 --> 00:11:10,985 Speaker 4: Oh? I'm always making the shoe the center if I 252 00:11:10,985 --> 00:11:14,865 Speaker 4: if I'm gonna wear. So my theory is always like, 253 00:11:15,065 --> 00:11:17,265 Speaker 4: let's start with the shoe so you can figure out 254 00:11:17,305 --> 00:11:21,225 Speaker 4: what you want who But it's huge, yeah, of course, 255 00:11:21,265 --> 00:11:24,105 Speaker 4: because you need to like check in with yourself. You 256 00:11:24,185 --> 00:11:26,225 Speaker 4: need to really figure out, like what are you doing 257 00:11:26,265 --> 00:11:26,745 Speaker 4: that day? 258 00:11:26,945 --> 00:11:28,825 Speaker 2: That's true because you ask a lot from your footwear. 259 00:11:28,865 --> 00:11:30,745 Speaker 2: Is there a lot of walking? Are you sitting? 260 00:11:30,985 --> 00:11:33,345 Speaker 4: Are you getting in the uber and going straight to 261 00:11:33,345 --> 00:11:36,265 Speaker 4: the location. It's so true, and so. 262 00:11:36,225 --> 00:11:37,785 Speaker 1: How I want to get it so wrong all the 263 00:11:37,825 --> 00:11:38,505 Speaker 1: time I get it. 264 00:11:38,665 --> 00:11:40,665 Speaker 4: I think it's a good opportunity to like check in 265 00:11:40,745 --> 00:11:43,105 Speaker 4: and see who you need to be that day. And 266 00:11:43,145 --> 00:11:47,265 Speaker 4: so often if I do just feel like maybe I'm 267 00:11:47,305 --> 00:11:50,665 Speaker 4: wearing a lower key out, like maybe it's all black. 268 00:11:51,625 --> 00:11:55,345 Speaker 4: Having a statement footwear is super easy to bring, like 269 00:11:55,545 --> 00:11:57,985 Speaker 4: just a piece of interest to the look. It's also 270 00:11:58,025 --> 00:12:00,385 Speaker 4: a good way of like trying out the trends, even 271 00:12:00,385 --> 00:12:02,305 Speaker 4: though I don't want trends to be around it. 272 00:12:02,345 --> 00:12:03,385 Speaker 1: No, but I know what you mean. 273 00:12:03,545 --> 00:12:06,305 Speaker 4: You know, it's like if you're investing in really good 274 00:12:06,385 --> 00:12:10,145 Speaker 4: quality pieces and you want them to be that in 275 00:12:10,545 --> 00:12:14,785 Speaker 4: neutrals or colors that really work for you, like your neutrals. Obviously, 276 00:12:14,785 --> 00:12:17,465 Speaker 4: an olive green is like a dark green is our neutral? 277 00:12:17,585 --> 00:12:19,745 Speaker 1: Such a neutral. These are like a gray khaki. 278 00:12:20,185 --> 00:12:21,385 Speaker 4: Their gorge I really love. 279 00:12:21,705 --> 00:12:23,545 Speaker 2: They're actually very expensive and the toe has started to 280 00:12:23,585 --> 00:12:26,305 Speaker 2: feel off already. But I say very expensive, four hundred dollars, 281 00:12:26,305 --> 00:12:27,265 Speaker 2: which is very expensive. 282 00:12:27,265 --> 00:12:28,825 Speaker 4: Okay, I want to get a lot out of it. 283 00:12:28,945 --> 00:12:31,065 Speaker 1: Annoyed, I won't say anything about the brand. 284 00:12:31,145 --> 00:12:33,665 Speaker 2: But yes, you want to invest in stuff that's not 285 00:12:33,705 --> 00:12:35,785 Speaker 2: going to be worn once or twice because it's too uncomfortable, 286 00:12:35,825 --> 00:12:39,225 Speaker 2: it's badly made, especially when it comes to footwear, because 287 00:12:39,305 --> 00:12:40,585 Speaker 2: of what we ask it to do. 288 00:12:40,705 --> 00:12:44,425 Speaker 4: For sure, And like I, you know, I'm creating suits 289 00:12:44,465 --> 00:12:47,945 Speaker 4: for women who they're going to invest in these pieces. 290 00:12:47,945 --> 00:12:51,825 Speaker 4: They want to make them really versatile. So often we'll 291 00:12:51,825 --> 00:12:55,145 Speaker 4: do it in a neutral color. And so adding a 292 00:12:55,185 --> 00:12:58,585 Speaker 4: staple piece like a red shoe makes them feel very 293 00:12:58,665 --> 00:12:59,425 Speaker 4: like in the moment. 294 00:12:59,665 --> 00:13:01,705 Speaker 2: So as part of your job and what you do, 295 00:13:01,945 --> 00:13:03,985 Speaker 2: would you consider the footwear in what you're doing? 296 00:13:04,905 --> 00:13:06,185 Speaker 1: So do you say to her what shoes are we 297 00:13:06,185 --> 00:13:06,585 Speaker 1: wearing with this? 298 00:13:06,865 --> 00:13:10,705 Speaker 4: Yeah? So we often call our sessions discovery sessions because 299 00:13:10,745 --> 00:13:13,145 Speaker 4: we're really trying to figure out, like what is your lifestyle? 300 00:13:13,225 --> 00:13:15,905 Speaker 4: Are you doing the morning run for school and then 301 00:13:16,025 --> 00:13:21,545 Speaker 4: going to meetings and between what's happening? And so I 302 00:13:21,665 --> 00:13:25,705 Speaker 4: will tailor the pants to what you often wear. 303 00:13:25,825 --> 00:13:28,185 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's so important with the feet for sure. 304 00:13:28,545 --> 00:13:33,345 Speaker 4: And I will always tailor my wide leg long pants 305 00:13:33,465 --> 00:13:37,065 Speaker 4: to be shorter at the back. Smart because then I 306 00:13:37,065 --> 00:13:39,185 Speaker 4: can wear sneakers and it's not dragging on the floor. 307 00:13:39,225 --> 00:13:41,385 Speaker 4: And when I wear heels, they're still versatile. I don't 308 00:13:41,425 --> 00:13:42,345 Speaker 4: have to worry about it. 309 00:13:42,745 --> 00:13:46,465 Speaker 2: That is the smartest because when I take pants to 310 00:13:46,505 --> 00:13:48,465 Speaker 2: be tailor because I'm not particularly tall, and gosh, tailor 311 00:13:48,585 --> 00:13:49,025 Speaker 2: is expensive. 312 00:13:49,025 --> 00:13:50,065 Speaker 1: If you're buying an affordable with. 313 00:13:50,065 --> 00:13:52,465 Speaker 2: Hair pants and you need to get them taken up anyway. 314 00:13:52,545 --> 00:13:53,865 Speaker 2: They go, I take my shoes and they're like, well, 315 00:13:53,865 --> 00:13:55,425 Speaker 2: what choosing I'm like, well, I don't know. I might 316 00:13:55,465 --> 00:13:57,345 Speaker 2: wear a high heel, I might wear a sneaker, and 317 00:13:57,385 --> 00:13:58,705 Speaker 2: can you kind of do in between. But it's such 318 00:13:58,705 --> 00:14:00,745 Speaker 2: a commitment to choose a length that's so steack. 319 00:14:00,785 --> 00:14:02,425 Speaker 4: It's such a commitment to choose a length thing you 320 00:14:02,465 --> 00:14:06,065 Speaker 4: shouldn't have to. And I've found this technique that gives 321 00:14:06,105 --> 00:14:08,385 Speaker 4: you both because you don't want to drag you on 322 00:14:08,425 --> 00:14:09,985 Speaker 4: the bottom like the and I. 323 00:14:09,945 --> 00:14:12,025 Speaker 1: Also just don't want to pigeonhole those pants. 324 00:14:12,065 --> 00:14:14,585 Speaker 2: When we know now that you know wideleg pants, tailored 325 00:14:14,625 --> 00:14:17,225 Speaker 2: pants can be so versatile. They're not just dressy pants 326 00:14:17,305 --> 00:14:19,585 Speaker 2: or pants. You can wear them with sneakers or sandals. 327 00:14:19,705 --> 00:14:22,145 Speaker 2: So let's say someone listening is going to create a 328 00:14:22,305 --> 00:14:25,025 Speaker 2: capsule wardrobe for their shoes. So then on you know 329 00:14:25,345 --> 00:14:28,265 Speaker 2: the stuff that not everyone has to have all these 330 00:14:28,305 --> 00:14:29,785 Speaker 2: exact styles. But what do you think a kind of 331 00:14:29,785 --> 00:14:31,985 Speaker 2: the footwear staples that you can take us through life? 332 00:14:32,185 --> 00:14:37,785 Speaker 4: Oh, really good question. I'd say going with something you 333 00:14:37,865 --> 00:14:38,905 Speaker 4: definitely need a sneaker. 334 00:14:39,025 --> 00:14:40,905 Speaker 2: And that's separate to like your gym sneakers, Like if 335 00:14:40,905 --> 00:14:44,505 Speaker 2: you exercise, you mean like a lifestyle sneaker, yes, a trainer. 336 00:14:44,345 --> 00:14:47,945 Speaker 4: Yes, a trainer, a lifestyle sneaker, and that can be 337 00:14:48,545 --> 00:14:51,665 Speaker 4: low profile or chunky, it doesn't matter. And then I'd 338 00:14:51,665 --> 00:14:54,905 Speaker 4: have something a little bit more dressier, and that can 339 00:14:54,945 --> 00:14:57,625 Speaker 4: be a loafer, a Mary Jane, a ballet flat, yes, 340 00:14:58,225 --> 00:14:58,865 Speaker 4: anything like. 341 00:14:58,905 --> 00:15:01,705 Speaker 2: You com'fy footwear. That's the equivalent of a sneaker, but 342 00:15:01,785 --> 00:15:02,345 Speaker 2: more dressy. 343 00:15:02,545 --> 00:15:07,265 Speaker 4: Absolutely. I would always when you're talking about boots, you 344 00:15:07,345 --> 00:15:09,265 Speaker 4: really need to look at the hemlines. 345 00:15:09,745 --> 00:15:10,585 Speaker 1: I can't do boots. 346 00:15:10,705 --> 00:15:13,105 Speaker 2: I mean I can occasionally, but agreed, I don't know 347 00:15:13,145 --> 00:15:14,985 Speaker 2: how to lay them. 348 00:15:14,985 --> 00:15:18,825 Speaker 4: So would you go with a near high boot, yeah, 349 00:15:18,945 --> 00:15:20,185 Speaker 4: compared to an ankle. 350 00:15:19,905 --> 00:15:22,785 Speaker 2: Boot maybe, But I don't really wear short things I 351 00:15:22,825 --> 00:15:25,225 Speaker 2: wear like maxiskirts or jeans, So what kind of boot 352 00:15:25,265 --> 00:15:25,745 Speaker 2: do I wear? 353 00:15:27,545 --> 00:15:32,425 Speaker 4: I would probably go You would rather have something underneath longer, Yeah, underneath. 354 00:15:32,465 --> 00:15:33,625 Speaker 1: Maybe That's where I'm going wrong. 355 00:15:33,745 --> 00:15:36,745 Speaker 2: I think also, you know, touching on sandals, agreed, Like 356 00:15:36,785 --> 00:15:39,265 Speaker 2: I think you need like maybe a classic black pear 357 00:15:39,625 --> 00:15:43,145 Speaker 2: and then something neutraally like a tanny creamy even a white. 358 00:15:43,105 --> 00:15:44,345 Speaker 1: Because they just go with everything. 359 00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:48,665 Speaker 4: See, I do the exact opposite. I always think that 360 00:15:48,705 --> 00:15:50,265 Speaker 4: if it doesn't go with anything, it kind of goes 361 00:15:50,265 --> 00:15:50,785 Speaker 4: with everything. 362 00:15:50,865 --> 00:15:53,545 Speaker 2: Well, I agree, but this is the capsual staples, so 363 00:15:53,625 --> 00:15:55,905 Speaker 2: this is then we can go buy our fun little treats. 364 00:15:55,945 --> 00:15:59,105 Speaker 2: Like I just wore burgundy sandals even though it's they're 365 00:15:59,105 --> 00:16:01,225 Speaker 2: dead of winter. But I guess for what I'm my 366 00:16:01,305 --> 00:16:05,225 Speaker 2: capsule would be some neutrally stuff. I don't know, but 367 00:16:05,265 --> 00:16:07,105 Speaker 2: I do love a colored shoe and a statement shoe, 368 00:16:07,105 --> 00:16:08,505 Speaker 2: but I wouldn't put them in my capsule. 369 00:16:08,785 --> 00:16:12,705 Speaker 4: I'm a very vibr I I dress very like bright colors, 370 00:16:12,785 --> 00:16:15,985 Speaker 4: and I like to have my accessories really bright. And 371 00:16:16,025 --> 00:16:19,385 Speaker 4: so even if I'm going like a lot of Navies, 372 00:16:19,385 --> 00:16:20,785 Speaker 4: blacks and grays. 373 00:16:20,625 --> 00:16:21,785 Speaker 1: Like, what would you do a purple? 374 00:16:21,985 --> 00:16:22,905 Speaker 4: I do bright green. 375 00:16:23,305 --> 00:16:25,425 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like bread bright green. 376 00:16:25,705 --> 00:16:27,585 Speaker 4: I haven't done a lot of burgundy, even though this 377 00:16:27,665 --> 00:16:29,185 Speaker 4: is the time to buy burgundy. 378 00:16:29,625 --> 00:16:32,265 Speaker 1: You don't have to that rle, it's not done, but 379 00:16:32,305 --> 00:16:33,025 Speaker 1: it is everywhere. 380 00:16:33,025 --> 00:16:35,385 Speaker 2: So maybe, like I wear a lot of burgundy too, 381 00:16:35,425 --> 00:16:37,465 Speaker 2: because it's good for our colors exactly, So I don't 382 00:16:37,465 --> 00:16:39,945 Speaker 2: think I necessarily need it in the footwear. 383 00:16:40,785 --> 00:16:42,825 Speaker 4: But I do wear Yeah, I've got some blacks and 384 00:16:42,825 --> 00:16:45,905 Speaker 4: some neutrals. Okay, but yeah, I love it. I love 385 00:16:45,905 --> 00:16:46,985 Speaker 4: a statement green shoes. 386 00:16:47,025 --> 00:16:49,065 Speaker 2: I just love all shoes, even if I don't wear them, 387 00:16:49,105 --> 00:16:50,745 Speaker 2: I just want to look at them and think they're pretty. 388 00:16:51,105 --> 00:16:54,345 Speaker 2: So on that because you say you love fun shoes, 389 00:16:54,425 --> 00:16:57,345 Speaker 2: statement shoes, So you'd be across the wrong shoe theory. 390 00:16:57,585 --> 00:16:58,225 Speaker 4: Oh for sure. 391 00:16:58,345 --> 00:17:00,185 Speaker 2: So can you explain to the listeners what that is 392 00:17:00,305 --> 00:17:03,385 Speaker 2: and how do you use that theory or process to 393 00:17:03,385 --> 00:17:03,945 Speaker 2: get dressed? 394 00:17:04,345 --> 00:17:07,385 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, the wrong shoe theory is going to be 395 00:17:08,385 --> 00:17:11,385 Speaker 4: picking something that just doesn't quite feel like it goes 396 00:17:11,425 --> 00:17:15,745 Speaker 4: with the overall theme or general esthetic that you're doing 397 00:17:15,785 --> 00:17:18,785 Speaker 4: and the rest of your outfit, and it creates tension. 398 00:17:20,065 --> 00:17:23,865 Speaker 4: And so I really like the wrong shoe theory. Well, 399 00:17:23,905 --> 00:17:27,905 Speaker 4: the tension because it's adding like a level of complexity. 400 00:17:28,745 --> 00:17:32,225 Speaker 4: I always like to think about, if I'm bringing in 401 00:17:32,305 --> 00:17:35,425 Speaker 4: something that really is wrong, it doesn't really make sense 402 00:17:35,465 --> 00:17:38,185 Speaker 4: to the rest of the outfit, how can I reference it? 403 00:17:38,745 --> 00:17:40,465 Speaker 4: And so, like, I have a pair of shoes that 404 00:17:40,505 --> 00:17:44,025 Speaker 4: are not only like wrong shoe, they're also relatively ugly 405 00:17:44,105 --> 00:17:47,985 Speaker 4: by all means. They are the Nike Tabby's, you know, 406 00:17:48,025 --> 00:17:50,745 Speaker 4: the ones with the toka and they're in camouflage. 407 00:17:51,625 --> 00:17:55,545 Speaker 2: Majella started, so Mason Martin Margiela started its shoe that 408 00:17:55,585 --> 00:17:59,545 Speaker 2: looks like a pousehold or something. It's got that line, yeah, 409 00:17:59,625 --> 00:18:01,985 Speaker 2: between like a thong but in a close gin shoe. 410 00:18:02,225 --> 00:18:02,505 Speaker 3: Yeah. 411 00:18:02,705 --> 00:18:06,585 Speaker 4: So the Tabby is originally a Japanese oh there you 412 00:18:06,625 --> 00:18:09,945 Speaker 4: go shoe. It's I believe it was more like a 413 00:18:09,985 --> 00:18:14,945 Speaker 4: working shoe. And so in Japan there's heaps of options, 414 00:18:14,985 --> 00:18:18,665 Speaker 4: options and lots of little buyers. Of course, Mochella has 415 00:18:18,665 --> 00:18:22,785 Speaker 4: made it so popular and expensive. I've had the great 416 00:18:22,905 --> 00:18:24,545 Speaker 4: quality and they really did last. 417 00:18:24,705 --> 00:18:28,305 Speaker 2: I've tried them on several times, but I'm not sold yet. 418 00:18:28,785 --> 00:18:33,345 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've recently bought an Etsy brand that I'm really 419 00:18:33,385 --> 00:18:36,225 Speaker 4: loving so I could try it out. Obsessed with them. 420 00:18:36,265 --> 00:18:37,785 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good way to do it, and it's 421 00:18:37,985 --> 00:18:39,145 Speaker 1: a good spot to do that. 422 00:18:39,425 --> 00:18:44,665 Speaker 4: Yeah, independent sellers. So when I wear my camo colored 423 00:18:44,825 --> 00:18:49,585 Speaker 4: sneaker tabbys, I always try and parrot back with like 424 00:18:49,785 --> 00:18:53,625 Speaker 4: maybe a brooch that looks like an army number. 425 00:18:54,425 --> 00:18:56,465 Speaker 1: So there's another element that pulls it together. 426 00:18:57,025 --> 00:19:01,425 Speaker 4: Maybe the top is like green camera like not camera, 427 00:19:01,465 --> 00:19:02,585 Speaker 4: but army. 428 00:19:02,545 --> 00:19:04,505 Speaker 1: Green green like a khaki cando. 429 00:19:04,785 --> 00:19:08,505 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so like that structured military look, and I'll 430 00:19:08,505 --> 00:19:10,345 Speaker 4: wear it with a long, slowly black skull. 431 00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:11,425 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. 432 00:19:12,385 --> 00:19:12,745 Speaker 2: See me. 433 00:19:12,825 --> 00:19:15,785 Speaker 1: But yes, as Allen st Yeah, when I. 434 00:19:15,705 --> 00:19:17,545 Speaker 2: Try and do the wrong shoe theory, because you were 435 00:19:17,545 --> 00:19:19,905 Speaker 2: saying how oftentimes you started the shoe, I don't. But 436 00:19:19,945 --> 00:19:22,105 Speaker 2: I'll try and leave myself enough time. And this is 437 00:19:22,185 --> 00:19:24,425 Speaker 2: especially I guess if I'm going somewhere nice on the weekends, 438 00:19:24,825 --> 00:19:26,425 Speaker 2: I'll put on the outfit. Then I'll get out five 439 00:19:26,425 --> 00:19:28,385 Speaker 2: pairs of shoes and I'll quickly just try them all on, 440 00:19:28,945 --> 00:19:30,545 Speaker 2: because there's always a pair of shoes that you. 441 00:19:30,465 --> 00:19:31,785 Speaker 1: Know go in your head. 442 00:19:32,425 --> 00:19:34,625 Speaker 2: But the wrong shoe theory is add interest in quirk 443 00:19:34,705 --> 00:19:37,505 Speaker 2: by wearing not something that's ugly in mismatch, but something 444 00:19:37,545 --> 00:19:39,865 Speaker 2: that would technically not be thought of. 445 00:19:39,985 --> 00:19:40,225 Speaker 1: It's not. 446 00:19:41,745 --> 00:19:43,465 Speaker 2: So we are chatting in the depths of winter, but 447 00:19:43,585 --> 00:19:45,945 Speaker 2: spring is right around the corner. So do you have 448 00:19:45,985 --> 00:19:48,265 Speaker 2: any little sort of forecast of what we're going to 449 00:19:48,265 --> 00:19:49,505 Speaker 2: be wearing on our feet in the spring. 450 00:19:49,865 --> 00:19:53,545 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, I've been looking at the runways that are 451 00:19:53,585 --> 00:19:55,785 Speaker 4: happening in Europe at the moment, and a lot of 452 00:19:55,825 --> 00:20:00,305 Speaker 4: the like leather sandals, the Indian style sandals, I think, 453 00:20:00,425 --> 00:20:03,585 Speaker 4: just like thongs, but not in like the haavianas. We're 454 00:20:03,625 --> 00:20:05,305 Speaker 4: going to be doing like a leather or like a 455 00:20:05,425 --> 00:20:05,865 Speaker 4: dress style. 456 00:20:05,905 --> 00:20:08,185 Speaker 1: So like that simple, like the rose A song that 457 00:20:08,265 --> 00:20:09,545 Speaker 1: was that's back. 458 00:20:09,345 --> 00:20:12,665 Speaker 4: Again, I think. So that's what I'm seeing everywhere. I'm seeing, 459 00:20:12,705 --> 00:20:15,825 Speaker 4: you know, everyone that's in the European summer at the moment. 460 00:20:16,345 --> 00:20:18,625 Speaker 4: They Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of that. So I 461 00:20:18,665 --> 00:20:19,745 Speaker 4: love it because I already have a. 462 00:20:19,665 --> 00:20:22,105 Speaker 1: Pair of I was gonna say, if you've already read it, 463 00:20:22,385 --> 00:20:23,305 Speaker 1: I'm prepared. 464 00:20:23,465 --> 00:20:26,105 Speaker 2: But if you're shopping now, you know, particularly if you're 465 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:29,065 Speaker 2: like there's some websites that have got like when Overseas 466 00:20:29,065 --> 00:20:30,825 Speaker 2: goes on, soal they're going to we're selling their summer. 467 00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:33,305 Speaker 1: Grab it because we're going to be wearing it. 468 00:20:33,385 --> 00:20:37,745 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're like Christmas boxing days. Tales will be 469 00:20:38,785 --> 00:20:42,745 Speaker 4: definitely where we can prepare for our summer. Yes, yeah, 470 00:20:42,745 --> 00:20:44,225 Speaker 4: that's what I'm seeing a lot of at the moment. 471 00:20:44,305 --> 00:20:45,065 Speaker 1: Okay, love it. 472 00:20:45,185 --> 00:21:02,905 Speaker 3: Simple, it's very expensive, how wonder. 473 00:21:03,745 --> 00:21:07,745 Speaker 2: Okay, Bougie and Budget Winter Footwear Edition. I want you 474 00:21:07,785 --> 00:21:09,465 Speaker 2: to start with your budget please. 475 00:21:09,385 --> 00:21:14,185 Speaker 4: Yeah, my budget I'm loving the Rabosy Mary Jane Tabby's 476 00:21:14,305 --> 00:21:17,025 Speaker 4: I got love Etsy. They're sixty nine dollars. 477 00:21:17,105 --> 00:21:17,745 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 478 00:21:17,865 --> 00:21:20,785 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that was a really good They're not 479 00:21:20,825 --> 00:21:21,625 Speaker 4: real go. 480 00:21:21,625 --> 00:21:23,425 Speaker 1: A good way to practice and see if you like to. 481 00:21:23,385 --> 00:21:25,345 Speaker 4: See if you like it. There's a few that are 482 00:21:25,545 --> 00:21:28,225 Speaker 4: real leather and the different price points. I like their 483 00:21:28,265 --> 00:21:30,905 Speaker 4: whole collection. I was specifically after the Tabo's. 484 00:21:31,065 --> 00:21:32,025 Speaker 1: What color did you get? 485 00:21:32,065 --> 00:21:32,825 Speaker 4: I just got black? 486 00:21:32,945 --> 00:21:37,185 Speaker 2: Okay, very simple shape with the weird toe thing is 487 00:21:37,225 --> 00:21:39,825 Speaker 2: already quite a statement. So it's good to start with black. 488 00:21:40,065 --> 00:21:42,625 Speaker 4: Yes, there are statement piece without being too much of 489 00:21:42,665 --> 00:21:43,065 Speaker 4: a statement. 490 00:21:43,145 --> 00:21:45,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, not visually colored. Yeah, okay, that's your budget. 491 00:21:45,985 --> 00:21:48,305 Speaker 2: Well, my Bougie and budget are similar prices and they're 492 00:21:48,345 --> 00:21:51,185 Speaker 2: not outrageous, but they're the two winter styles I wear 493 00:21:51,185 --> 00:21:54,225 Speaker 2: the most. So I'll start with my budget because it's 494 00:21:54,225 --> 00:21:55,145 Speaker 2: ten dollars cheaper. 495 00:21:55,465 --> 00:21:55,745 Speaker 1: And this. 496 00:21:55,825 --> 00:21:57,585 Speaker 2: I've got this Nine West pump. But I have got 497 00:21:57,585 --> 00:22:00,585 Speaker 2: a version of this pump from every brand, from every 498 00:22:00,705 --> 00:22:05,105 Speaker 2: color ever, from Jimmy Chwo, Tibets, I've got a lot 499 00:22:05,105 --> 00:22:08,545 Speaker 2: of them. So I love the Nine West mailing pumps. 500 00:22:08,625 --> 00:22:11,705 Speaker 2: It's a medium here, real Swede. You need to get 501 00:22:11,745 --> 00:22:14,065 Speaker 2: real Swede in these guys, and look at the greens. 502 00:22:14,105 --> 00:22:17,065 Speaker 2: It comes in black, navy, red, and two types of green. 503 00:22:17,705 --> 00:22:21,785 Speaker 2: They are the hardest swearing pump ever, and Swede makes 504 00:22:21,785 --> 00:22:23,785 Speaker 2: them look expensive, whereas if you get them even in 505 00:22:23,785 --> 00:22:24,905 Speaker 2: a real leather, they. 506 00:22:24,825 --> 00:22:27,465 Speaker 1: Can just look a bit. I don't know. I love them. 507 00:22:27,545 --> 00:22:29,425 Speaker 2: So I've got the black and navy in those. I've 508 00:22:29,465 --> 00:22:32,665 Speaker 2: got a green in another brand. I've got a liec. 509 00:22:32,865 --> 00:22:35,225 Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many Swede pumps I've got. Okay, 510 00:22:35,305 --> 00:22:37,185 Speaker 2: because you can wear them to your first you can 511 00:22:37,185 --> 00:22:40,185 Speaker 2: wear them with cute shorts and like a big blazer 512 00:22:40,305 --> 00:22:43,905 Speaker 2: like a Swede pump is actually so versatile. My favorite 513 00:22:43,905 --> 00:22:46,105 Speaker 2: person in the whole world, Rosy Huntington Whitey, wears a 514 00:22:46,105 --> 00:22:46,745 Speaker 2: pump all the time. 515 00:22:46,785 --> 00:22:48,505 Speaker 1: But she does that high. I do that high and 516 00:22:48,545 --> 00:22:50,105 Speaker 1: I can run for the bus in them. 517 00:22:50,105 --> 00:22:52,825 Speaker 4: Perfect. You can wear them everywhere, you can dress something. 518 00:22:53,305 --> 00:22:54,545 Speaker 1: It would have heard them to the gym, but I 519 00:22:54,585 --> 00:22:55,345 Speaker 1: don't go to the gym. 520 00:22:55,345 --> 00:22:58,105 Speaker 2: Other than that, I'm good, all right, bougie, what's your 521 00:22:58,145 --> 00:22:59,225 Speaker 2: fancy winter shoe? 522 00:22:59,465 --> 00:23:02,025 Speaker 4: This is my all year, but I've only recently just 523 00:23:02,065 --> 00:23:06,265 Speaker 4: got it. Resold it is the deal, sing back the 524 00:23:06,625 --> 00:23:09,425 Speaker 4: sling back. I think it's just like a nice again 525 00:23:09,825 --> 00:23:12,065 Speaker 4: point is it a heel, it's not a hill. I 526 00:23:12,065 --> 00:23:15,425 Speaker 4: went with the flat. It's more versatile. Yes, because I'm 527 00:23:15,465 --> 00:23:18,385 Speaker 4: wearing you know, if I'm wearing jeans. I just bought 528 00:23:18,425 --> 00:23:20,545 Speaker 4: a pair of the tapered jean. 529 00:23:20,705 --> 00:23:23,225 Speaker 1: Love a barrel jean. Yeah, so good with that style 530 00:23:23,225 --> 00:23:23,865 Speaker 1: of shoe. 531 00:23:23,665 --> 00:23:26,505 Speaker 4: Yes, because it cuts off a little bit too short 532 00:23:26,625 --> 00:23:29,065 Speaker 4: than what I'm used to, so I'm really enjoying. 533 00:23:29,185 --> 00:23:30,945 Speaker 1: Okay, and what color have you got in that? Just 534 00:23:31,025 --> 00:23:34,225 Speaker 1: black with the white, the very classic, that ribbony kind. 535 00:23:34,385 --> 00:23:36,745 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I always think that a black shoe, 536 00:23:37,225 --> 00:23:39,585 Speaker 4: no matter kind of like what the style is, that 537 00:23:39,705 --> 00:23:40,465 Speaker 4: is a winter shoe. 538 00:23:40,545 --> 00:23:41,505 Speaker 1: I agree, yeah yeah. 539 00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:43,585 Speaker 2: And also if you're going to invest in that kind 540 00:23:43,585 --> 00:23:46,505 Speaker 2: of price, black is so clever. Yeah yeah, like we 541 00:23:46,545 --> 00:23:48,625 Speaker 2: do love a colored shoe, but black, that would that 542 00:23:48,665 --> 00:23:52,145 Speaker 2: would get a spot in your kind of capsule I reckoning. 543 00:23:51,945 --> 00:23:53,625 Speaker 4: Yes, it's truly timeless. 544 00:23:53,705 --> 00:23:57,945 Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, mine are the Malini Carli cream leather Loafers 545 00:23:57,985 --> 00:24:00,265 Speaker 2: one hundred and nineteen nine ninety five. I love a 546 00:24:00,265 --> 00:24:02,545 Speaker 2: cream loafer. I have too many pairs of cream loafers. 547 00:24:02,625 --> 00:24:04,065 Speaker 2: I don't have these ones. 548 00:24:04,465 --> 00:24:05,385 Speaker 1: I have the Tony. 549 00:24:05,145 --> 00:24:07,105 Speaker 2: Bianco ones that are very similar. Both of them are 550 00:24:07,145 --> 00:24:10,745 Speaker 2: inspired by the Saint Laurent loafers. I tried these on 551 00:24:10,825 --> 00:24:13,185 Speaker 2: after look there's much of a muchness. But these ones 552 00:24:13,185 --> 00:24:16,345 Speaker 2: are really great in that I don't like anything because 553 00:24:16,345 --> 00:24:18,465 Speaker 2: I've got big feet and I just I don't know. 554 00:24:18,505 --> 00:24:21,465 Speaker 2: I don't like anything too visually chunky on my feet, 555 00:24:21,665 --> 00:24:24,465 Speaker 2: so I will wear a lighter colored loafer with jeans. 556 00:24:25,305 --> 00:24:29,065 Speaker 2: Navy camel, even black looks cool like it looks wrong 557 00:24:29,145 --> 00:24:32,465 Speaker 2: shoe theory. I love my white loafers. Sometimes they look 558 00:24:32,585 --> 00:24:34,745 Speaker 2: like a retirement village golfer. 559 00:24:34,825 --> 00:24:37,025 Speaker 4: It's gonna say it's very seven years so I love. 560 00:24:36,905 --> 00:24:39,225 Speaker 2: It's just cool, and I honestly like I've got some 561 00:24:39,225 --> 00:24:41,465 Speaker 2: beautiful black loafers that are quite a few seasons old 562 00:24:41,465 --> 00:24:42,465 Speaker 2: and quite expensive. 563 00:24:42,625 --> 00:24:44,425 Speaker 1: I haven't reached from this winter because I'm all about 564 00:24:44,425 --> 00:24:44,825 Speaker 1: the cream. 565 00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:46,585 Speaker 4: It's very eclectic, Granpa. 566 00:24:46,305 --> 00:24:48,585 Speaker 1: Of you, I love you, ieel comfortable. 567 00:24:48,585 --> 00:24:50,225 Speaker 2: So the Mileni ones are great, but so are the 568 00:24:50,225 --> 00:24:53,145 Speaker 2: Tony Bianco. There's a lot and also some of those 569 00:24:53,185 --> 00:24:55,625 Speaker 2: sale like the end of winter sales is a great 570 00:24:55,625 --> 00:24:58,385 Speaker 2: time to get quality footwear for next season. 571 00:24:58,705 --> 00:25:00,905 Speaker 4: Yeah to prap to have a little. 572 00:25:00,665 --> 00:25:02,025 Speaker 1: More, especially your classic. 573 00:25:02,145 --> 00:25:06,145 Speaker 4: That one will take you through to spring as well. Forever, yeah, forever. 574 00:25:07,065 --> 00:25:08,665 Speaker 1: Thank you. That was fascinating. 575 00:25:08,705 --> 00:25:11,665 Speaker 2: I'm going to all my new pants all my old 576 00:25:11,705 --> 00:25:12,545 Speaker 2: pants in a new way. 577 00:25:12,705 --> 00:25:13,825 Speaker 1: So thank you for joining me. 578 00:25:13,865 --> 00:25:17,305 Speaker 4: Thank you for having meat, thank. 579 00:25:17,105 --> 00:25:20,545 Speaker 2: You, thank you so much for listening or watching. 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