1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:11,384 Speaker 1: So much. 2 00:00:11,424 --> 00:00:14,104 Speaker 2: You're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. 3 00:00:14,784 --> 00:00:18,664 Speaker 1: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders 4 00:00:18,704 --> 00:00:26,744 Speaker 1: that this podcast is recorded on from MoMA Mia. Welcome 5 00:00:26,784 --> 00:00:29,664 Speaker 1: to this spill your daily pop culture fixed. I'm Laura 6 00:00:29,664 --> 00:00:34,944 Speaker 1: Brodney and I'm Kissanulokitch and Happy Tuesday, Happy long weekend. Yes, 7 00:00:35,384 --> 00:00:37,624 Speaker 1: And because we didn't record for a few days, the 8 00:00:37,664 --> 00:00:40,144 Speaker 1: news cycle has been bubbling, things have built up, so 9 00:00:40,224 --> 00:00:42,504 Speaker 1: in our planning me this morning we were both almost 10 00:00:42,544 --> 00:00:44,904 Speaker 1: like yelling at each other around all this stuff we 11 00:00:44,904 --> 00:00:45,864 Speaker 1: wanted to cover today. 12 00:00:45,984 --> 00:00:48,504 Speaker 2: There's so much going on, so we're going to try 13 00:00:48,544 --> 00:00:52,104 Speaker 2: and like cover as much as possible and try not 14 00:00:52,224 --> 00:00:53,864 Speaker 2: to go like an hour. 15 00:00:54,504 --> 00:00:57,344 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I mean at our podcast today is my 16 00:00:57,464 --> 00:00:59,184 Speaker 1: dream and something I feel like we're building up to. 17 00:00:59,264 --> 00:01:01,064 Speaker 1: I've been told no, but you know, you never know. 18 00:01:01,664 --> 00:01:02,224 Speaker 3: He's just a. 19 00:01:02,184 --> 00:01:04,944 Speaker 4: Subtle, very subtle, very subtle. 20 00:01:05,064 --> 00:01:06,544 Speaker 1: I've taken my campaign public. 21 00:01:07,024 --> 00:01:07,504 Speaker 4: Love it. 22 00:01:07,864 --> 00:01:10,344 Speaker 1: So coming up on the show today, the Tony Awards 23 00:01:10,424 --> 00:01:12,424 Speaker 1: took place in New York over the weekend. We're going 24 00:01:12,464 --> 00:01:14,944 Speaker 1: to talk about that because it was infiltrated by so 25 00:01:15,064 --> 00:01:17,464 Speaker 1: many Hollywood stars who caused a little bit of drama 26 00:01:17,504 --> 00:01:19,224 Speaker 1: and a little bit of tears if you're me watching 27 00:01:19,304 --> 00:01:22,024 Speaker 1: at home. Plus, we have a huge development in the 28 00:01:22,064 --> 00:01:24,744 Speaker 1: Blake Lively and justin bell Dony case. We're going to 29 00:01:24,784 --> 00:01:27,184 Speaker 1: explain exactly what that means, because I hear people today 30 00:01:27,264 --> 00:01:29,944 Speaker 1: celebrating it's over. It is so not over. In fact, 31 00:01:30,064 --> 00:01:30,984 Speaker 1: he's going to come back. 32 00:01:31,184 --> 00:01:35,224 Speaker 4: No, definitely more going on. But first, Laura, it's this 33 00:01:35,344 --> 00:01:36,784 Speaker 4: really sad day for Ozzie TV. 34 00:01:37,104 --> 00:01:40,024 Speaker 1: It is. It is really sad. So yesterday was snee 35 00:01:40,024 --> 00:01:42,144 Speaker 1: at my desk because I was working trying not to 36 00:01:42,144 --> 00:01:44,864 Speaker 1: break them on mere website and an email came through 37 00:01:45,224 --> 00:01:48,104 Speaker 1: and the subject line was a statement from Channel ten 38 00:01:48,184 --> 00:01:51,984 Speaker 1: and Roving Enterprises. And before I even opened the email, 39 00:01:52,064 --> 00:01:54,024 Speaker 1: I knew exactly what it was going to say, because 40 00:01:54,024 --> 00:01:56,464 Speaker 1: this news has been bubbling away for a few days 41 00:01:56,784 --> 00:01:59,784 Speaker 1: that the project, which has been on Network ten for 42 00:01:59,904 --> 00:02:03,344 Speaker 1: nearly sixteen years now was coming to an end. Because 43 00:02:03,384 --> 00:02:05,704 Speaker 1: so many outlets had been reporting it for so long, 44 00:02:05,784 --> 00:02:09,424 Speaker 1: almost as fact and saying that it was about to close. 45 00:02:09,464 --> 00:02:11,424 Speaker 1: It was going to end. The staff had been told, 46 00:02:11,504 --> 00:02:14,264 Speaker 1: but Network ten itself and anyone involved in the project 47 00:02:14,304 --> 00:02:17,264 Speaker 1: hadn't said anything until this email came through. So in 48 00:02:17,304 --> 00:02:18,984 Speaker 1: the email it just said as a result of all 49 00:02:19,024 --> 00:02:22,224 Speaker 1: these program changes they're making, the project will air for 50 00:02:22,224 --> 00:02:25,144 Speaker 1: the last time on June twenty seven, And then they 51 00:02:25,224 --> 00:02:27,264 Speaker 1: went on to talk about a lot of accolades from 52 00:02:27,264 --> 00:02:29,904 Speaker 1: the show, including the fact it had won eleven Logi 53 00:02:29,904 --> 00:02:32,864 Speaker 1: Awards and one Walkley Award, and just talked about the 54 00:02:32,944 --> 00:02:34,864 Speaker 1: various hosts that had been on the show and how 55 00:02:34,904 --> 00:02:37,944 Speaker 1: to change news in Australia over the years. And what 56 00:02:37,984 --> 00:02:40,504 Speaker 1: I also thought was interesting was that Craig Campbell, who 57 00:02:40,584 --> 00:02:43,104 Speaker 1: is the creative director of Roving Enterprises and one of 58 00:02:43,144 --> 00:02:46,384 Speaker 1: the creators of the project, was talking about the fact 59 00:02:46,384 --> 00:02:49,464 Speaker 1: of how devastated the team would be, and also that 60 00:02:49,544 --> 00:02:52,624 Speaker 1: it had been such a show piece in the entertainment 61 00:02:52,624 --> 00:02:55,664 Speaker 1: industry and one of the destinations for actors and musicians 62 00:02:56,024 --> 00:02:58,264 Speaker 1: when they're doing press in Australia to go the project. 63 00:02:58,304 --> 00:03:00,584 Speaker 1: Which I'm sure you've had that email before in your 64 00:03:01,104 --> 00:03:03,904 Speaker 1: entertainment career where you think you've got an interview locked 65 00:03:03,944 --> 00:03:06,104 Speaker 1: in with a big celebrity because they're doing Australian press, 66 00:03:06,144 --> 00:03:08,224 Speaker 1: only to get an email back and say sorry, they're 67 00:03:08,224 --> 00:03:11,264 Speaker 1: only doing one cross and you're like, it's the project, 68 00:03:11,344 --> 00:03:11,904 Speaker 1: So that's fine. 69 00:03:12,024 --> 00:03:14,104 Speaker 2: So I mean, look, I think the sad thing about 70 00:03:14,104 --> 00:03:18,144 Speaker 2: this is that the whole premise of the project was 71 00:03:18,224 --> 00:03:20,904 Speaker 2: news done differently, right, you know, sixteen years ago when 72 00:03:20,904 --> 00:03:23,664 Speaker 2: it started with Carrie bit Moore, and there's been amazing 73 00:03:23,704 --> 00:03:26,064 Speaker 2: hosts over the years. You know, while it ali really 74 00:03:26,304 --> 00:03:29,744 Speaker 2: like changed, you know, the face of Australian. 75 00:03:29,304 --> 00:03:33,384 Speaker 4: Media, Peter Hellier, it's always had that great. 76 00:03:33,184 --> 00:03:38,544 Speaker 2: Comedic backing behind it, but then also doing news, yes, 77 00:03:38,584 --> 00:03:42,104 Speaker 2: done differently. It is really sad to see it go 78 00:03:42,744 --> 00:03:44,744 Speaker 2: and it really kind of is a sign of the 79 00:03:44,824 --> 00:03:49,064 Speaker 2: times and the sign of where media is going, as 80 00:03:49,184 --> 00:03:51,944 Speaker 2: we kind of all know here and Mama Maya. But 81 00:03:52,024 --> 00:03:55,264 Speaker 2: I think something that is really really sad. You know, 82 00:03:55,744 --> 00:03:59,064 Speaker 2: four and a half thousand episodes. It's not just the 83 00:03:59,064 --> 00:04:03,144 Speaker 2: people talent on screen. This is also affecting a lot 84 00:04:03,184 --> 00:04:05,504 Speaker 2: of people who work behind the scenes. 85 00:04:05,744 --> 00:04:08,264 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. A show like this has such a huge 86 00:04:08,304 --> 00:04:10,944 Speaker 1: team and there's so many jobs that will be I 87 00:04:10,944 --> 00:04:13,544 Speaker 1: guess lost or moved around in the shakeup. And I 88 00:04:13,544 --> 00:04:15,624 Speaker 1: think a lot of people tuned into the project last 89 00:04:15,704 --> 00:04:17,984 Speaker 1: night because they wanted to see how the cast would 90 00:04:18,024 --> 00:04:20,144 Speaker 1: address it, and they kind of didn't a funny way 91 00:04:20,144 --> 00:04:21,984 Speaker 1: They started off with like, has there been news today? 92 00:04:22,064 --> 00:04:24,944 Speaker 1: What's happened? And then they gave some kind of really 93 00:04:24,984 --> 00:04:27,424 Speaker 1: heartfelt speeches saying goodbye to the show. 94 00:04:27,824 --> 00:04:30,664 Speaker 3: After sixteen years and what nearly four and a half 95 00:04:30,704 --> 00:04:34,024 Speaker 3: thousand episodes, the project will very soon be no more. 96 00:04:34,944 --> 00:04:38,744 Speaker 3: It's a huge for everybody. You know, it's the people 97 00:04:38,784 --> 00:04:41,544 Speaker 3: who make a show, and the project isn't just the 98 00:04:41,544 --> 00:04:46,024 Speaker 3: people on this desk, it's the cast and crew behind 99 00:04:46,224 --> 00:04:46,744 Speaker 3: the scenes. 100 00:04:46,824 --> 00:04:48,544 Speaker 4: They are the real stars and talking. 101 00:04:49,184 --> 00:04:52,024 Speaker 3: You know, the producers, the editors, the cameramen and women, 102 00:04:52,144 --> 00:04:54,464 Speaker 3: the comedy writers, the floor crew, the people in the 103 00:04:54,464 --> 00:04:56,864 Speaker 3: control room, the director of the hair and makeup team, 104 00:04:57,624 --> 00:05:00,904 Speaker 3: all of them who work their guts out every single night, 105 00:05:01,024 --> 00:05:03,064 Speaker 3: six nights a week to get us there. 106 00:05:03,864 --> 00:05:08,784 Speaker 2: I actually really appreciate that they acknowledge cast and crew, 107 00:05:08,864 --> 00:05:12,064 Speaker 2: because often in the this kind of environment, it is 108 00:05:12,104 --> 00:05:14,584 Speaker 2: the people who work behind the scenes that often get forgotten. 109 00:05:15,064 --> 00:05:17,544 Speaker 2: I mean, you're thinking about like the fact that they're 110 00:05:17,584 --> 00:05:21,384 Speaker 2: turning this stuff around. You got your editors, live crosses, dps, 111 00:05:21,504 --> 00:05:24,944 Speaker 2: you've got sound o's, You've got like it is a huge. 112 00:05:24,584 --> 00:05:26,144 Speaker 4: Cast and crew. If you do is look at the 113 00:05:26,144 --> 00:05:27,904 Speaker 4: credits on a show like that. 114 00:05:28,384 --> 00:05:30,744 Speaker 2: So, I mean, I think that's probably the bit that 115 00:05:30,864 --> 00:05:33,504 Speaker 2: makes me the saddest about. 116 00:05:33,264 --> 00:05:34,264 Speaker 4: The loss of the show. 117 00:05:34,584 --> 00:05:36,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I know it is being replaced with 118 00:05:36,624 --> 00:05:40,504 Speaker 1: more an investigative current affairs news show that's going to 119 00:05:40,504 --> 00:05:42,744 Speaker 1: come over and take over that timeslot, but it's like 120 00:05:42,784 --> 00:05:46,224 Speaker 1: when any publication closes down to Australia, a show gets canceled. 121 00:05:46,544 --> 00:05:49,264 Speaker 1: It kind of is just taking all these pieces off 122 00:05:49,344 --> 00:05:51,824 Speaker 1: the chessboard of all these different media outlets, And I 123 00:05:51,824 --> 00:05:55,304 Speaker 1: think it's interesting of how hard everyone at the moment 124 00:05:55,384 --> 00:05:59,304 Speaker 1: is trying to chase like that youth audience and trying 125 00:05:59,304 --> 00:06:01,784 Speaker 1: to get people back into watching traditional TV when so 126 00:06:01,904 --> 00:06:04,424 Speaker 1: much now is like short form on TikTok. But I 127 00:06:04,424 --> 00:06:07,304 Speaker 1: think the reason that a lot of these shows kind 128 00:06:07,304 --> 00:06:09,224 Speaker 1: of falter on that area is that not as many 129 00:06:09,224 --> 00:06:12,704 Speaker 1: people are watching Freda TV unless it is a reality show. 130 00:06:12,744 --> 00:06:15,464 Speaker 1: But then clips from the project would always go viral 131 00:06:15,504 --> 00:06:17,144 Speaker 1: on TikTok, like I would see them all the time, 132 00:06:17,144 --> 00:06:19,184 Speaker 1: So what's trying to find that balance? Obviously they haven't 133 00:06:19,184 --> 00:06:22,144 Speaker 1: said anything in their statement about like viewership numbers or 134 00:06:22,144 --> 00:06:25,304 Speaker 1: anything like that, but it is always interesting when something 135 00:06:25,344 --> 00:06:28,104 Speaker 1: like that gets taken away from the Australian media landscape. 136 00:06:28,144 --> 00:06:30,064 Speaker 1: And the interesting thing is like we don't have those 137 00:06:30,144 --> 00:06:32,664 Speaker 1: late night shows here for when big artists want to 138 00:06:32,664 --> 00:06:35,344 Speaker 1: come and do. I guess podcasts is kind of taking 139 00:06:35,344 --> 00:06:37,064 Speaker 1: that over to an extent, But we don't have those 140 00:06:37,104 --> 00:06:38,984 Speaker 1: late night shows and those talk shows. We don't have 141 00:06:39,024 --> 00:06:42,104 Speaker 1: those like fun news programs for guests. That's like the 142 00:06:42,104 --> 00:06:43,504 Speaker 1: project was that for us? 143 00:06:43,624 --> 00:06:45,344 Speaker 4: Yeah? I'm like, where are they going to go? 144 00:06:45,464 --> 00:06:45,584 Speaker 1: Now? 145 00:06:45,624 --> 00:06:49,064 Speaker 4: Are they even gonna be coming here or doing cross? Yeah? 146 00:06:49,144 --> 00:06:50,784 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there's the morning shows and things 147 00:06:50,824 --> 00:06:54,424 Speaker 1: are there's something about TV like a nighttime TV show yeah, 148 00:06:54,504 --> 00:06:56,784 Speaker 1: has that kind of different energy to a morning shows. 149 00:06:56,824 --> 00:07:00,464 Speaker 2: It's more kind of relaxed. There's probably a slightly more 150 00:07:00,504 --> 00:07:05,264 Speaker 2: comedic lens to it. Yeah, that morning show exactly. 151 00:07:05,304 --> 00:07:07,624 Speaker 1: And I know there are other nighttime programs in that space, 152 00:07:07,664 --> 00:07:09,464 Speaker 1: but I just when you think of like other markets, 153 00:07:09,504 --> 00:07:11,864 Speaker 1: like the American market or of the UK market, how 154 00:07:11,904 --> 00:07:15,184 Speaker 1: they have all of these big nightly programs with that 155 00:07:15,304 --> 00:07:17,504 Speaker 1: kind of tread the line between entertainment and news, and 156 00:07:17,544 --> 00:07:19,184 Speaker 1: it kind of makes me sad that that's going away 157 00:07:19,184 --> 00:07:20,464 Speaker 1: from Australia a little bit. 158 00:07:20,504 --> 00:07:23,304 Speaker 2: Well, maybe there'll be something to replace it that fits 159 00:07:23,544 --> 00:07:28,624 Speaker 2: a new Demographics shot nine sixteen rather Yeah. 160 00:07:29,904 --> 00:07:31,624 Speaker 1: Well, I've still got a few more weeks of the projects, 161 00:07:31,744 --> 00:07:33,704 Speaker 1: yeah yet, so it'll definitely be tuning in for their 162 00:07:33,744 --> 00:07:38,584 Speaker 1: last episode. 163 00:07:36,624 --> 00:07:40,544 Speaker 2: And to something a little bit lighter now, the Tony Awards. Now, 164 00:07:40,944 --> 00:07:46,144 Speaker 2: I am a serious Broadway lover like anything musical theater. 165 00:07:46,504 --> 00:07:48,664 Speaker 2: Like you will hear me busting this out. So I 166 00:07:48,704 --> 00:07:50,864 Speaker 2: love the Tony Awards. It's always a lot of fun. 167 00:07:51,264 --> 00:07:54,744 Speaker 2: It often doesn't get as much airtime as some of 168 00:07:54,784 --> 00:07:57,464 Speaker 2: the other big awards shows like the Oscars and Grammys 169 00:07:57,504 --> 00:08:01,784 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, because generally these Broadway stars are 170 00:08:01,864 --> 00:08:05,584 Speaker 2: not as well known as you know, your A listers. However, 171 00:08:05,824 --> 00:08:10,544 Speaker 2: this year we had a lot of big celebrities in 172 00:08:10,584 --> 00:08:12,544 Speaker 2: the front row and a lot of celebrity winners. 173 00:08:13,144 --> 00:08:14,424 Speaker 4: The first one that I really want to. 174 00:08:14,424 --> 00:08:18,064 Speaker 2: Shout out is Sarah Snook, our very own Aussie Sarah 175 00:08:18,144 --> 00:08:21,224 Speaker 2: Snook actually won for the Picture of Dorian Gray and 176 00:08:21,264 --> 00:08:23,984 Speaker 2: she won Best Leading Actress in a Play, and that 177 00:08:24,184 --> 00:08:27,784 Speaker 2: is incredible. So shout out to Sarah Snook. 178 00:08:27,584 --> 00:08:30,344 Speaker 1: And her Broadway debut. Like obviously she's done other plays 179 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:32,744 Speaker 1: and things, and she's been on Succession and other TV shows, 180 00:08:32,744 --> 00:08:35,304 Speaker 1: for years, But that's her Broadway debut to win Tony, 181 00:08:35,624 --> 00:08:37,904 Speaker 1: which is the equivalent of an Oscar in that space. 182 00:08:37,984 --> 00:08:38,824 Speaker 1: It's pretty huge. 183 00:08:38,864 --> 00:08:42,424 Speaker 2: It is incredible, and you know, Sarah Snook has done 184 00:08:42,504 --> 00:08:44,944 Speaker 2: very well on succession. That's probably where most people would 185 00:08:44,944 --> 00:08:47,104 Speaker 2: know her. But you know, she's been part of the 186 00:08:47,104 --> 00:08:51,744 Speaker 2: aussy film and TV industry for a long time. Incredibly talented, 187 00:08:51,904 --> 00:08:56,024 Speaker 2: so really really excited for her. Another really exciting Winny 188 00:08:56,104 --> 00:08:57,464 Speaker 2: is George Clooney winning. 189 00:08:57,784 --> 00:09:00,664 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad someone's finally given George Clooney a chance. 190 00:09:00,824 --> 00:09:05,144 Speaker 1: I know, working away for ages and no one's seen 191 00:09:05,144 --> 00:09:05,744 Speaker 1: his talent. 192 00:09:06,184 --> 00:09:08,664 Speaker 4: Now, did you know that he's only won award away 193 00:09:08,664 --> 00:09:09,464 Speaker 4: from an egot? 194 00:09:09,704 --> 00:09:12,904 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it left to win? Is it a Grammy? Yeah? 195 00:09:12,944 --> 00:09:18,304 Speaker 2: So if you don't know what an egot is, it's Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony. 196 00:09:18,464 --> 00:09:20,304 Speaker 4: So it's the people who have won all for get 197 00:09:20,344 --> 00:09:21,024 Speaker 4: an egot. 198 00:09:21,504 --> 00:09:25,064 Speaker 2: Probably one of the best known Egot winners is Whoopie Goldberg. 199 00:09:25,144 --> 00:09:28,264 Speaker 2: So a lot of the winners are usually like composers 200 00:09:28,544 --> 00:09:31,104 Speaker 2: because that kind of crosses over into quite a few 201 00:09:31,144 --> 00:09:32,584 Speaker 2: of those those were alms. 202 00:09:32,664 --> 00:09:34,984 Speaker 4: But yeah, so who knows, maybe George clin. 203 00:09:34,984 --> 00:09:36,384 Speaker 1: I feel like George Cloney, we want, you know how, 204 00:09:36,384 --> 00:09:38,584 Speaker 1: like some people get really close to an egot and 205 00:09:38,624 --> 00:09:41,224 Speaker 1: then they have to sort of sidestep and do something 206 00:09:41,344 --> 00:09:43,424 Speaker 1: because you can get one for like producing a Broadway 207 00:09:43,464 --> 00:09:45,384 Speaker 1: play if you win a Tony. So sometimes an actor 208 00:09:45,384 --> 00:09:47,184 Speaker 1: who wants to win an egot and they can't be 209 00:09:47,304 --> 00:09:49,864 Speaker 1: on stage because that's not their area, they'll produce something 210 00:09:49,904 --> 00:09:51,664 Speaker 1: to try and win it. Or they'll do like a 211 00:09:51,704 --> 00:09:55,264 Speaker 1: spoken word album or an audiobook or something to win 212 00:09:55,304 --> 00:09:57,104 Speaker 1: a Grammys, a loopholes Like I. 213 00:09:57,024 --> 00:09:59,464 Speaker 4: Don't know if George Tony really cares that much. 214 00:09:59,504 --> 00:10:01,264 Speaker 2: I did see an interview with him on the Car, 215 00:10:01,304 --> 00:10:03,464 Speaker 2: but he's like, no, I'm not going for a Grammy. 216 00:10:03,624 --> 00:10:05,544 Speaker 1: Well his his name will end up on the producer 217 00:10:05,624 --> 00:10:07,864 Speaker 1: credits of some album, like someone in his team will 218 00:10:07,864 --> 00:10:09,944 Speaker 1: make that happen. I think he's just been getting so 219 00:10:10,024 --> 00:10:12,504 Speaker 1: much shit for his hair because it's been died dark 220 00:10:12,544 --> 00:10:14,264 Speaker 1: and he does look a bit ridiculous, but it was 221 00:10:14,344 --> 00:10:16,544 Speaker 1: for his Broadway show. Maybe it's like, you know how, 222 00:10:16,584 --> 00:10:19,824 Speaker 1: like some actresses win an Oscar because they wear prosthetics 223 00:10:19,824 --> 00:10:23,224 Speaker 1: and make themselve ugly. Maybe he won just because he 224 00:10:23,344 --> 00:10:26,704 Speaker 1: died just dyed his hair men have won for less. 225 00:10:29,464 --> 00:10:32,424 Speaker 2: And one of the controversial things that did happen is 226 00:10:32,704 --> 00:10:35,904 Speaker 2: Oprah having a little bit of a dig at Patty Lapone. 227 00:10:36,184 --> 00:10:39,904 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean this has been consuming my mind for 228 00:10:39,984 --> 00:10:42,544 Speaker 1: so long, this Broadway feud, which has spilled over in 229 00:10:42,584 --> 00:10:43,224 Speaker 1: to other areas. 230 00:10:43,264 --> 00:10:45,064 Speaker 2: I feel like we need to give a bit of backstory. 231 00:10:45,224 --> 00:10:47,704 Speaker 2: So everybody's going to be across who Paddylopone is. Oh 232 00:10:48,024 --> 00:10:50,424 Speaker 2: shame on you if you don't know who. 233 00:10:50,904 --> 00:10:53,144 Speaker 1: So much like you, I'm a huge Broadway fan. It's 234 00:10:53,144 --> 00:10:55,344 Speaker 1: all I listened to, It's all I think about. So 235 00:10:55,464 --> 00:10:57,824 Speaker 1: this has been consuming me. So the two big Tony 236 00:10:57,904 --> 00:11:00,904 Speaker 1: areas that people were really invested in were Best Actress 237 00:11:00,904 --> 00:11:03,024 Speaker 1: in a Play, which Sarah stook one, but also Best 238 00:11:03,064 --> 00:11:07,464 Speaker 1: Actress in a Musical and Nicole Scherzinger film formerly from 239 00:11:07,464 --> 00:11:10,424 Speaker 1: the Pussycat Dolls, won that award for the revival of 240 00:11:10,464 --> 00:11:14,144 Speaker 1: Sunset Boulevard, which I haven't seen but i've hear is 241 00:11:14,224 --> 00:11:17,264 Speaker 1: just incredible to really stripped back version, very different from 242 00:11:17,304 --> 00:11:19,864 Speaker 1: the recent like Australian production that was at the Sydney 243 00:11:19,864 --> 00:11:23,984 Speaker 1: Opera House. But Audre McDonald, who is one of the 244 00:11:24,024 --> 00:11:26,904 Speaker 1: most famous and acclaimed Broadway stars of all time. She's 245 00:11:26,944 --> 00:11:29,384 Speaker 1: also a TV actress. She's in the Gray's Anatomy universe. 246 00:11:29,384 --> 00:11:31,904 Speaker 1: She was on Private Practice as the lead for many years. 247 00:11:32,264 --> 00:11:35,304 Speaker 1: If that's your in for her, So she was nominated 248 00:11:35,464 --> 00:11:38,744 Speaker 1: and just a few weeks ago Patti Lapone, who again 249 00:11:38,824 --> 00:11:42,064 Speaker 1: one of the greatest Broadway stars of all time. Maybe 250 00:11:42,064 --> 00:11:44,104 Speaker 1: you saw her recently in Agatha All Along, if that 251 00:11:44,264 --> 00:11:46,304 Speaker 1: was your introduction to her, I feel like people would 252 00:11:46,344 --> 00:11:46,944 Speaker 1: know who Patty lave. 253 00:11:47,064 --> 00:11:48,904 Speaker 2: I think you should know who Patty, like you would 254 00:11:48,984 --> 00:11:52,504 Speaker 2: know her face. But she's like iconic, like it's kind 255 00:11:52,584 --> 00:11:54,824 Speaker 2: of one of the greatest performers of all time. Yeah, 256 00:11:55,024 --> 00:11:57,224 Speaker 2: one hundred percent and no one. Also for being like 257 00:11:57,664 --> 00:12:02,144 Speaker 2: wildly outspoken, very eccentric, says whatever she wants. Is why 258 00:12:02,184 --> 00:12:05,504 Speaker 2: people always love doing interviews with her. And usually the 259 00:12:05,544 --> 00:12:08,264 Speaker 2: interviews are like really funny. So when she was filming 260 00:12:08,264 --> 00:12:10,744 Speaker 2: Agatha All Along, her and Aubrey Plaza lived together, like 261 00:12:10,784 --> 00:12:12,504 Speaker 2: she brought Aubrey into her house and I would do 262 00:12:12,544 --> 00:12:15,464 Speaker 2: like these wild interviews and stuff. So usually people love her, 263 00:12:15,744 --> 00:12:18,304 Speaker 2: But leading up into the Tony season, she gave an 264 00:12:18,864 --> 00:12:21,984 Speaker 2: interview to The New Yorker and she said some awful 265 00:12:21,984 --> 00:12:24,624 Speaker 2: things about Audra McDonald and Keisha Lewis, who has another 266 00:12:24,624 --> 00:12:27,264 Speaker 2: Broadway start, and she said, have some horrible things about them. 267 00:12:27,824 --> 00:12:29,704 Speaker 2: And I felt bad for Audre because she's in the 268 00:12:29,744 --> 00:12:31,984 Speaker 2: revival of Gypsy and she was doing the press circuit 269 00:12:32,264 --> 00:12:34,504 Speaker 2: and she was asking a lot of interviews, like Patti 270 00:12:34,584 --> 00:12:38,504 Speaker 2: Laprone says, your enemies basically, and Audra McDonald's so classy, 271 00:12:38,664 --> 00:12:41,144 Speaker 2: was like, I consider Patti a friend. I haven't seen 272 00:12:41,184 --> 00:12:42,944 Speaker 2: her many years. You'll have to ask her. I have 273 00:12:42,944 --> 00:12:45,304 Speaker 2: no idea what this is about. So this blew up, 274 00:12:45,384 --> 00:12:47,824 Speaker 2: and then all of these actors, hundreds of actors from 275 00:12:47,864 --> 00:12:50,624 Speaker 2: the Broadway community ended up sending out this open letter 276 00:12:50,984 --> 00:12:54,784 Speaker 2: saying that Patti Lapne's words were very like offensive, very 277 00:12:54,904 --> 00:12:57,504 Speaker 2: racially charged because the's a woman of color in the industry, 278 00:12:57,744 --> 00:13:00,984 Speaker 2: and basically telling her to apologize and she didn't. Yes, 279 00:13:01,024 --> 00:13:03,384 Speaker 2: But the thing, Patti Laprone has never apologized on her 280 00:13:03,544 --> 00:13:06,264 Speaker 2: entire life, Like that is her thing. She says whatever 281 00:13:06,304 --> 00:13:07,864 Speaker 2: she wants, and she's like, I say what I want, 282 00:13:07,864 --> 00:13:09,464 Speaker 2: I say what I think, I'll do what I want 283 00:13:09,624 --> 00:13:12,624 Speaker 2: and I'll never a pologize. So then Payla Pone puts 284 00:13:12,664 --> 00:13:15,144 Speaker 2: up a statement on her Instagram after this open letter 285 00:13:15,224 --> 00:13:18,104 Speaker 2: has gone out saying I have always said I would 286 00:13:18,104 --> 00:13:21,264 Speaker 2: never apologize that changes today I was wrong. I'm so 287 00:13:21,304 --> 00:13:23,824 Speaker 2: sorry for my words, and basically pulled it all back. 288 00:13:23,864 --> 00:13:26,784 Speaker 2: So everyone's coming into the Tony Awards with this like 289 00:13:26,904 --> 00:13:29,384 Speaker 2: long standing drama that's been in the air. Patti La 290 00:13:29,464 --> 00:13:32,064 Speaker 2: Pone didn't show up, and then Oprah Winfrey, who's up 291 00:13:32,104 --> 00:13:34,704 Speaker 2: on stage because Cynthia Revo was hosting. There was so 292 00:13:34,784 --> 00:13:35,304 Speaker 2: much happening. 293 00:13:35,304 --> 00:13:39,224 Speaker 1: Here I was, and they did the holding space and 294 00:13:39,264 --> 00:13:41,584 Speaker 1: Oprah held her finger, and I was like, I do 295 00:13:41,624 --> 00:13:43,824 Speaker 1: think that moment has passed from the wicked press to it. 296 00:13:44,584 --> 00:13:46,304 Speaker 1: But I was also like, oh my god, it's Oprah 297 00:13:46,344 --> 00:13:48,824 Speaker 1: and Cynthia. You girls do whatever you want. It's fine. 298 00:13:48,864 --> 00:13:50,184 Speaker 1: I don't care if you do a call back to 299 00:13:50,224 --> 00:13:53,464 Speaker 1: an old joke. And then as she was announcing Best 300 00:13:53,544 --> 00:13:56,504 Speaker 1: Actress in a Musical, Oprah made a dig about not 301 00:13:56,584 --> 00:13:58,304 Speaker 1: a dig. It's hard to say. She was talking about 302 00:13:58,424 --> 00:14:00,064 Speaker 1: order and being like, people have a lot to say, 303 00:14:00,104 --> 00:14:02,624 Speaker 1: people have a lot to say about her and this industry, 304 00:14:02,704 --> 00:14:04,904 Speaker 1: and the camera pan out to the audience and people 305 00:14:04,904 --> 00:14:07,624 Speaker 1: were like laughing or look shocked because they knew what 306 00:14:07,824 --> 00:14:09,904 Speaker 1: was going on that she was talking about Paddi La 307 00:14:09,944 --> 00:14:11,904 Speaker 1: Ponne's and Patti la Pome wasn't there. 308 00:14:12,024 --> 00:14:14,304 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she probably didn't show up on the averse. 309 00:14:14,744 --> 00:14:17,384 Speaker 2: She said, I regret my flippant and emotional responses during 310 00:14:17,384 --> 00:14:20,664 Speaker 2: the interview, which were inappropriate, and I'm devastated that my 311 00:14:20,664 --> 00:14:24,104 Speaker 2: behavior has offended others and has run counter to what 312 00:14:24,144 --> 00:14:27,584 Speaker 2: we hold dear to in this community. So she's been 313 00:14:27,824 --> 00:14:29,304 Speaker 2: like given a real kick up. 314 00:14:29,384 --> 00:14:31,144 Speaker 1: I never thought i'd see the day that Patti la 315 00:14:31,144 --> 00:14:33,264 Speaker 1: pom would apologize, but I guess that's like the power 316 00:14:33,264 --> 00:14:35,584 Speaker 1: of Audren McDonald. Everyone was like, this is the one 317 00:14:35,624 --> 00:14:38,864 Speaker 1: thing we won't take. So overall, like a very eventful 318 00:14:38,984 --> 00:14:41,824 Speaker 1: Tony's just a quick shout out to Jonathan Groff doing 319 00:14:41,864 --> 00:14:45,104 Speaker 1: a lap dance on Keanu Reeves. That was my favorite moment, 320 00:14:45,144 --> 00:14:47,864 Speaker 1: and also Cola Scola, who won Best Actor at a play, 321 00:14:48,384 --> 00:14:51,104 Speaker 1: getting up on stage and thanking their mother, and I 322 00:14:51,104 --> 00:14:53,504 Speaker 1: think t Bow from Grinder was there other shout out. 323 00:14:53,624 --> 00:14:56,864 Speaker 1: So a beautiful, heartfelt speech. Just overall, actually one of 324 00:14:56,904 --> 00:14:59,304 Speaker 1: the best award shows we've had in a while, because, 325 00:14:59,344 --> 00:15:01,904 Speaker 1: like the Oscars, was emotional and like the Golden Globes, 326 00:15:01,904 --> 00:15:03,584 Speaker 1: and Emmys were like everything was just kind of fine, 327 00:15:03,584 --> 00:15:05,664 Speaker 1: but they weren't all these standout moments. I feel like 328 00:15:05,744 --> 00:15:08,264 Speaker 1: the Tonys came in and like wor the award show 329 00:15:08,344 --> 00:15:09,224 Speaker 1: of the last couple of times. 330 00:15:09,384 --> 00:15:11,304 Speaker 2: Skip out on the Tony guys, even if you're not 331 00:15:11,344 --> 00:15:13,824 Speaker 2: a huge fan, I mean, like I love watching you know, 332 00:15:13,904 --> 00:15:16,944 Speaker 2: Hugh Jack Mandancer or like, you know, I love the 333 00:15:16,984 --> 00:15:18,584 Speaker 2: opening numbers, the opening. 334 00:15:18,784 --> 00:15:20,464 Speaker 1: Do you know that if I'm ever having a really 335 00:15:20,504 --> 00:15:23,344 Speaker 1: bad day, there's only one thing that which want to 336 00:15:23,384 --> 00:15:28,424 Speaker 1: fix me up, It's Neil Patrick. Har My god, guys, 337 00:15:28,784 --> 00:15:30,224 Speaker 1: just go and watch it on YouTube. 338 00:15:30,264 --> 00:15:32,544 Speaker 2: We're gonna have to stop because we're going to start 339 00:15:32,584 --> 00:15:33,184 Speaker 2: thinking this is. 340 00:15:33,344 --> 00:15:38,224 Speaker 1: This is not a Broadway podcast podcast anyway, Go back 341 00:15:38,264 --> 00:15:40,944 Speaker 1: and watch the Tonys. There's so many clips the Hamilton 342 00:15:41,024 --> 00:15:44,864 Speaker 1: cast reunited after ten years, so much don't it's okay, 343 00:15:44,904 --> 00:15:46,064 Speaker 1: It's okay, guys, go watch it. 344 00:15:46,824 --> 00:15:49,064 Speaker 2: Don't keep happening on the Tony's, guys, it is actually 345 00:15:49,144 --> 00:15:49,544 Speaker 2: worth it. 346 00:15:51,504 --> 00:15:53,144 Speaker 1: Well, just when we thought we had to wait until 347 00:15:53,184 --> 00:15:55,384 Speaker 1: March next year to get a full update on the 348 00:15:55,464 --> 00:15:59,544 Speaker 1: Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively legal case, a huge update today. 349 00:15:59,904 --> 00:16:01,624 Speaker 1: And that is the fact that the judge in the 350 00:16:01,664 --> 00:16:05,904 Speaker 1: case has dismissed Justin Baldonie's four hundred million defamation claim 351 00:16:06,024 --> 00:16:09,664 Speaker 1: against both Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds. And this is 352 00:16:09,704 --> 00:16:13,224 Speaker 1: because the judge said that they found Blake Lively's accusations 353 00:16:13,224 --> 00:16:17,904 Speaker 1: of sexual harassment against Baldoni were legally protected and therefore 354 00:16:17,944 --> 00:16:21,744 Speaker 1: immune from the lawsuit. We've talked so much about this case, 355 00:16:22,144 --> 00:16:25,464 Speaker 1: but the entire lawsuit from Justin Baldoni coming off the 356 00:16:25,504 --> 00:16:27,864 Speaker 1: back of it ends with us the movie. There was 357 00:16:27,904 --> 00:16:30,464 Speaker 1: a huge kind of backlash against Blake Lively from that. 358 00:16:30,904 --> 00:16:33,424 Speaker 1: After the press circuit was over, she came out with 359 00:16:33,464 --> 00:16:37,864 Speaker 1: this huge New York Times expose on Justin's behavior. After 360 00:16:37,904 --> 00:16:41,864 Speaker 1: that she filed a lawsuit against him. He countersued. Also, 361 00:16:41,864 --> 00:16:44,664 Speaker 1: I should say that the defamation case that Justin Baldoni 362 00:16:44,784 --> 00:16:47,784 Speaker 1: filed against The New York Times for reporting all of 363 00:16:47,784 --> 00:16:50,984 Speaker 1: the claims has also been thrown out, and that is 364 00:16:51,024 --> 00:16:55,104 Speaker 1: because that all of Blake Lively's claims against Justin Baldoni 365 00:16:55,464 --> 00:16:58,264 Speaker 1: were actually made through the court case, and so they 366 00:16:58,304 --> 00:17:01,344 Speaker 1: weren't found to be defaming him, which I think is 367 00:17:01,344 --> 00:17:05,744 Speaker 1: a really important note. And also the fact that it 368 00:17:05,784 --> 00:17:07,864 Speaker 1: would have to be proven that all of her claims 369 00:17:07,864 --> 00:17:09,944 Speaker 1: were false. So the judge has thrown that out. 370 00:17:10,504 --> 00:17:11,944 Speaker 4: This is one hundred percent not over. 371 00:17:12,024 --> 00:17:14,784 Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of discourse about like people be like, well, 372 00:17:14,784 --> 00:17:17,264 Speaker 2: there we go, it's all over down again. No no, no, no, no, no, 373 00:17:17,304 --> 00:17:20,664 Speaker 2: that is not how this stuff works. Baldoni's team can 374 00:17:20,784 --> 00:17:24,904 Speaker 2: amend the lawsuit and refile. Baldoni's team had till June 375 00:17:24,904 --> 00:17:27,824 Speaker 2: twenty third to amend the lawsuit to take that out, 376 00:17:27,824 --> 00:17:32,224 Speaker 2: so they can kind of reframe it and still have 377 00:17:32,344 --> 00:17:36,664 Speaker 2: another lawsuit. So there's that, and there's also like, there's 378 00:17:36,704 --> 00:17:40,064 Speaker 2: a lot more underneath this exactly. 379 00:17:40,104 --> 00:17:42,024 Speaker 1: So it was just that one part of the lawsuit, 380 00:17:42,064 --> 00:17:44,304 Speaker 1: which was the main part of it around the defamation 381 00:17:44,384 --> 00:17:47,424 Speaker 1: that's been thrown out. But he can refile the allegations 382 00:17:47,464 --> 00:17:51,224 Speaker 1: regarding interference with contracts, which is outside of the defamation 383 00:17:51,344 --> 00:17:53,584 Speaker 1: laws and is just a different thing to prove there's 384 00:17:53,584 --> 00:17:56,064 Speaker 1: still that there. But it is a huge and kind 385 00:17:56,064 --> 00:17:58,824 Speaker 1: of unexpected because a lot of people expected this part 386 00:17:58,944 --> 00:18:03,024 Speaker 1: of his allegations to go to court. And obviously the 387 00:18:03,104 --> 00:18:06,384 Speaker 1: amount of information he's been putting out has been so 388 00:18:06,464 --> 00:18:08,984 Speaker 1: intense around the information that he says he has on 389 00:18:09,024 --> 00:18:11,584 Speaker 1: Blake Lively's not forget. This is the man who was 390 00:18:11,584 --> 00:18:14,584 Speaker 1: published an entire website that at the time of recording 391 00:18:14,664 --> 00:18:18,024 Speaker 1: is still alive with every accusation that he has against 392 00:18:18,064 --> 00:18:22,784 Speaker 1: Blake Lively. Ryan Reynolds, their publicity team. He's subpoena Taylor 393 00:18:22,824 --> 00:18:25,744 Speaker 1: Swift that's being dropped, but all that information is still 394 00:18:25,744 --> 00:18:28,064 Speaker 1: out there. But he could still refile and say that 395 00:18:28,104 --> 00:18:30,024 Speaker 1: she interfered with the contracts for the movie. 396 00:18:30,144 --> 00:18:32,504 Speaker 2: But I do think in the court of public opinion, 397 00:18:32,944 --> 00:18:34,944 Speaker 2: I don't even know if it's about the money. And 398 00:18:35,024 --> 00:18:37,064 Speaker 2: I think I said this like right at the very start, 399 00:18:37,144 --> 00:18:39,784 Speaker 2: it's almost like this is a way to air out 400 00:18:39,824 --> 00:18:42,104 Speaker 2: the laundry and get it to put and in a 401 00:18:42,144 --> 00:18:43,424 Speaker 2: way it has kind of work. 402 00:18:43,624 --> 00:18:45,424 Speaker 4: People are really against Blake. 403 00:18:45,784 --> 00:18:48,224 Speaker 1: I didn't a r ever going to go away. Now. 404 00:18:48,304 --> 00:18:50,544 Speaker 1: I think that whether it was a campaign or the 405 00:18:50,584 --> 00:18:52,424 Speaker 1: truth or anything like, we don't know until this all 406 00:18:52,464 --> 00:18:55,864 Speaker 1: goes to court. But the way that people turned against 407 00:18:55,864 --> 00:18:57,704 Speaker 1: her is something I feel like even if it came 408 00:18:57,744 --> 00:19:00,624 Speaker 1: out that she was found to be completely innocent of 409 00:19:00,664 --> 00:19:02,464 Speaker 1: all these charges and she didn't do anything, I think 410 00:19:02,504 --> 00:19:04,904 Speaker 1: would be hard to turn that around. Now, even just 411 00:19:04,944 --> 00:19:08,264 Speaker 1: this week, there's allegations out there that she's been rude 412 00:19:08,264 --> 00:19:10,944 Speaker 1: to people in public and rude to her teams was 413 00:19:10,984 --> 00:19:14,824 Speaker 1: exposa also coming off the back of we previously spoke 414 00:19:14,824 --> 00:19:18,944 Speaker 1: about her past lifestyle company Preserve people coming out with 415 00:19:18,984 --> 00:19:22,024 Speaker 1: accusations around that, and it's just like anytime something happens, 416 00:19:22,024 --> 00:19:24,664 Speaker 1: people jump on it. So like that hatred against her, 417 00:19:24,664 --> 00:19:26,104 Speaker 1: I just don't think is gonna go away. 418 00:19:26,304 --> 00:19:29,224 Speaker 2: So we do have Blake Lively's statement here, so I'm 419 00:19:29,224 --> 00:19:31,904 Speaker 2: going to read this. This is via her attorneys, says 420 00:19:32,024 --> 00:19:35,544 Speaker 2: today's ruling represents a complete triumph and a full exoneration 421 00:19:35,664 --> 00:19:38,864 Speaker 2: for Blake Lively as well as for those unjustly implicated 422 00:19:38,864 --> 00:19:44,544 Speaker 2: and Baldoni's retaliatory lawsuit, including Ryan Reynolds, Leslie Sloane and 423 00:19:44,544 --> 00:19:46,824 Speaker 2: The New York Times from the outset were you maintained 424 00:19:46,904 --> 00:19:49,944 Speaker 2: this four hundred million dollar lawsuit was baseless and the 425 00:19:49,944 --> 00:19:53,344 Speaker 2: court recognized that. They further stated that they would pursue 426 00:19:53,424 --> 00:19:56,784 Speaker 2: legal fees and punitive down images against Baldoni and his 427 00:19:56,824 --> 00:19:57,784 Speaker 2: production company. 428 00:19:58,624 --> 00:20:01,024 Speaker 4: So this is far from over. 429 00:20:01,384 --> 00:20:03,224 Speaker 1: Yes, So as far as we know, the overall court 430 00:20:03,224 --> 00:20:05,344 Speaker 1: case is still going ahead in mant Well. One of 431 00:20:05,384 --> 00:20:08,424 Speaker 1: the biggest things that Blake Lively is suing for is 432 00:20:08,464 --> 00:20:12,064 Speaker 1: the sexual harassment ali gations, which she and her team 433 00:20:12,184 --> 00:20:14,744 Speaker 1: say there's a lot of evidence there that is going 434 00:20:14,784 --> 00:20:16,744 Speaker 1: to come out in court. Like they haven't made a website, 435 00:20:16,784 --> 00:20:18,664 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of stuff there that we don't know. 436 00:20:18,984 --> 00:20:21,424 Speaker 1: I also thought it was interesting like during this part 437 00:20:21,504 --> 00:20:24,424 Speaker 1: of the proceedings where they've been information gathering. That's why 438 00:20:24,544 --> 00:20:27,344 Speaker 1: Justin's team has been setting out the penis and everyone's 439 00:20:27,464 --> 00:20:29,984 Speaker 1: legal team is like getting all their information together before 440 00:20:30,024 --> 00:20:32,264 Speaker 1: they go to court. And I think it was interesting 441 00:20:32,304 --> 00:20:34,944 Speaker 1: that Blake, Clavelyne, Ryan Reynolds and their legal team went 442 00:20:34,984 --> 00:20:37,624 Speaker 1: to the judge and basically got like a motion to 443 00:20:37,664 --> 00:20:42,104 Speaker 1: stop Justin Baldoni continuously like releasing all this information and 444 00:20:42,304 --> 00:20:44,744 Speaker 1: continuously I guess, trying to like win in the court 445 00:20:44,784 --> 00:20:47,624 Speaker 1: of public opinion, which I think has been enacted, but 446 00:20:47,744 --> 00:20:49,544 Speaker 1: will be interesting to sort of see how that goes 447 00:20:49,584 --> 00:20:52,184 Speaker 1: going forward at the time of recording. Also, Justin hasn't 448 00:20:52,184 --> 00:20:55,784 Speaker 1: released a statement around it, or and his legal team haven't, 449 00:20:55,824 --> 00:20:57,464 Speaker 1: but I'm sure that's coming as well. 450 00:20:57,584 --> 00:21:02,024 Speaker 2: Apparently Blake dropped a portion of her lawsuit because Justin's 451 00:21:02,064 --> 00:21:05,824 Speaker 2: Baldonie's team requested her mental health records. 452 00:21:06,304 --> 00:21:09,984 Speaker 4: Yes, so she dropped a portion of her so she 453 00:21:09,984 --> 00:21:11,344 Speaker 4: didn't have to release that. 454 00:21:11,664 --> 00:21:11,824 Speaker 1: Yeah. 455 00:21:11,864 --> 00:21:13,104 Speaker 4: I actually thought was quite interesting. 456 00:21:13,384 --> 00:21:15,024 Speaker 2: To be frank though, I don't think I would want 457 00:21:15,024 --> 00:21:16,184 Speaker 2: anybody to say no. 458 00:21:16,384 --> 00:21:19,104 Speaker 1: And that's something about psychologists, and that's the thing. And 459 00:21:19,104 --> 00:21:21,064 Speaker 1: again we're just just talking in generals now because we 460 00:21:21,104 --> 00:21:23,144 Speaker 1: don't want to sort of get into the bones of 461 00:21:23,184 --> 00:21:25,984 Speaker 1: this lawsuit until it goes to court. But that's the 462 00:21:26,024 --> 00:21:28,384 Speaker 1: thing about these kind of court cases. Once people start digging, 463 00:21:28,464 --> 00:21:31,584 Speaker 1: especially if you're really famous, even if the information that 464 00:21:31,744 --> 00:21:33,704 Speaker 1: is unearthed, it could have nothing to do with the case, 465 00:21:33,744 --> 00:21:35,784 Speaker 1: but it could still be made public. So if you're 466 00:21:35,784 --> 00:21:40,544 Speaker 1: getting into like mental health records, medical records, contract negotiations. 467 00:21:40,864 --> 00:21:43,424 Speaker 1: This is why people like Taylor's so who get subpoened 468 00:21:43,424 --> 00:21:45,544 Speaker 1: for things like this, there's such a pattern on their side, 469 00:21:45,544 --> 00:21:48,584 Speaker 1: and their legal teams come down really hard because if 470 00:21:48,624 --> 00:21:50,424 Speaker 1: they were able to go through her phone and her 471 00:21:50,504 --> 00:21:53,224 Speaker 1: laptop and her messages and her emails, they might not 472 00:21:53,224 --> 00:21:55,744 Speaker 1: find the evidence they're looking for for this particular case, 473 00:21:55,784 --> 00:21:58,424 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of other stuff that could become 474 00:21:58,904 --> 00:22:01,584 Speaker 1: very publicly available. And if you're a private person at 475 00:22:01,584 --> 00:22:04,104 Speaker 1: that level of fame. That would be quite horrifying. Like, 476 00:22:04,144 --> 00:22:07,824 Speaker 1: imagine Blake Clively having her medical records made public. 477 00:22:07,944 --> 00:22:11,704 Speaker 2: Can you imagine having your psychologist record maybe, Like I 478 00:22:11,864 --> 00:22:15,504 Speaker 2: find that actually quite terrifying. Yeah, Like there's a reason 479 00:22:15,624 --> 00:22:18,624 Speaker 2: why there's that confidentiality in there. She's allowed to have 480 00:22:18,664 --> 00:22:22,224 Speaker 2: that space where she feels safe. So, if anything, despite 481 00:22:22,224 --> 00:22:25,384 Speaker 2: the fact that we have some thoughts about Blake Lively, 482 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:28,464 Speaker 2: but yeah, I can respect it. She Yeah, sort of 483 00:22:28,464 --> 00:22:30,224 Speaker 2: pulled that away from the absolutely. 484 00:22:30,304 --> 00:22:30,464 Speaker 4: Yeah. 485 00:22:30,464 --> 00:22:32,424 Speaker 1: I feel like there'd be some celebration in their house 486 00:22:32,424 --> 00:22:34,944 Speaker 1: today that this part of the lawsuit's been thrown away. Well, 487 00:22:34,944 --> 00:22:37,024 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to the show today. 488 00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:38,904 Speaker 1: And look, if you'd like us to do a Broadway 489 00:22:38,904 --> 00:22:41,584 Speaker 1: spin off podcast, let us know. We're ready in waiting. 490 00:22:41,624 --> 00:22:42,784 Speaker 1: No one here will say yes to that. 491 00:22:42,904 --> 00:22:45,744 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna just keep pushing it until somebody says yeah. 492 00:22:45,664 --> 00:22:48,824 Speaker 1: Till someone picks it up and says yes. 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