Speaker 1: Whoever said orange is the new pink was seriously disturbed.
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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to wear, the podcast that
Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. Each week,
Speaker 2: I sit down with an expert who helps us work
Speaker 2: out how to get more out of the clothes we
Speaker 2: already own and tells us what is and isn't worth
Speaker 2: adding to our wardrobe. This week is exactly that. I
Speaker 2: am joined by Jamie Lee. She is a Sydney-based stylist,
Speaker 2: one of my favorite channels to follow on Instagram.
Speaker 2: She's the exact opposite of me. She is a data nerd,
Speaker 2: and for over a decade, she has been logging every
Speaker 2: single item she buys or owns, and when she wears it.
Speaker 2: And from there, she's got this amazing visual library of
Speaker 2: all her clothes, including everything she wears the most, stuff
Speaker 2: she doesn't really wear, so then she can sell it,
Speaker 2: and everything in between. So, let's chat to Jamie about
Speaker 2: how she keeps this data and why she does it
Speaker 2: and why I am about to try and do the same.
Speaker 2: Jamie Lee, my Instagram friend, welcome to Nothing to wear.
Speaker 2: Before we get into the topic, which I've been begging
Speaker 2: you to come on because it's fascinating, there's two questions
Speaker 2: I ask everyone their first time on the show. So
Speaker 2: the first one is, can you describe your style in
Speaker 2: 3 words? Yeah, so I actually was having a bit
Speaker 2: of a think about this and I would say feminine,
Speaker 2: polished and undone. There's always kind of a layer of
Speaker 2: each of those and most of my outfits, all of them. Yes,
Speaker 2: because um when you say feminine, I'm like, no, but
Speaker 2: when you add them all together, it's an equation. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Undone, but the coolest like chic undone. I look at
Speaker 2: you and I'm like on Instagram and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: in my disgusting Kmart tracksuit pants that are my favorites,
Speaker 2: but I know Instagram's not everything. I love those three
Speaker 2: words together and Instagram versus real life, yeah, and I
Speaker 2: love that those three words, like you need all three
Speaker 2: to create the picture. OK. Lots of people wear a
Speaker 2: really small amount or a smaller amount of their wardrobe
Speaker 2: more than the rest. So the 9010 rule or some
Speaker 2: people say 80/20, but
Speaker 2: The smaller amount that they wear the most, and I
Speaker 2: guess this is kind of what this whole topic is about.
Speaker 2: So we don't want to give too much away, but
Speaker 2: what's in your most reached for? OK, so I was
Speaker 2: having a look at what I wear all the time
Speaker 2: because I'm a data nerd and I would say tailored trousers,
Speaker 2: because they had that nice polish, a really good pair
Speaker 2: of jeans, some sort of a shoe that's comfortable but
Speaker 2: also has a bit of a lifted refined feel or quirky.
Speaker 2: You have cool like
Speaker 2: Quirky but like still classic quirky like the Tory Burcher
Speaker 2: heels and like the boots you're wearing like sculptural heels
Speaker 2: a little bit different. OK, so that's what you reach
Speaker 2: for most. Yeah, I mean kind of those essentials most
Speaker 2: people tend to have in their wardrobes, but I would
Speaker 2: just say versions that feel more like myself rather than
Speaker 2: what you might find on a capsule wardrobe template. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: that's a very good point. I feel like we're all
Speaker 2: over that capsule wardrobe.
Speaker 2: OK, the topic. I don't know if you told me
Speaker 2: in real life because we often see each other at events,
Speaker 2: or I saw it on Instagram or both, but you,
Speaker 2: as you said, are a data nerd. Oh, I'd love
Speaker 2: to be like you. Everything's a vibes for me, just vibes.
Speaker 2: You use your phone to keep track of what items
Speaker 2: you're actually wearing and how much. So talk us through that.
Speaker 2: What is the app? How does it work? So I've
Speaker 2: actually been tracking what I wear since I was in
Speaker 2: my early 20s. So I'm talking over a decade at
Speaker 2: this point. I used to do.
Speaker 2: Merely using a spreadsheet on Excel or just a piece
Speaker 2: of paper at one point. Um, and so now I've
Speaker 2: kind of progressed onto an app which makes it a
Speaker 2: lot easier. So I use one called index and I
Speaker 2: like it because of the functionality. I'm kind of an aesthete,
Speaker 2: so things have to look a particular way for me
Speaker 2: to want to use it. I can imagine your Excel
Speaker 2: spreadsheets were beautifully color coded and
Speaker 2: Oh, not quite. Just just sells all matched up. Mine
Speaker 2: looked like a kid went in and mucked up a puzzle.
Speaker 2: So how does the app work? Do you buy something
Speaker 2: new or you've added everything you own and then every
Speaker 2: time you wear it, you add like a tally? Yeah,
Speaker 2: so there's a real manual process to where you have
Speaker 2: to kind of go in, upload every single item one
Speaker 2: by one. So you put in the brand name, you
Speaker 2: put
Speaker 2: The size, color, all that kind of information, and then
Speaker 2: you can add in the price when you bought it,
Speaker 2: if it was pre-owned or if it was. That's what
Speaker 2: I was gonna say because I love thrifting, can I
Speaker 2: just do like Levi's denim shirt? Like you don't have
Speaker 2: to know all the info. No, you don't even have
Speaker 2: to write in the actual name of the product. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you put in just a brand name, um, and
Speaker 2: then
Speaker 2: You kind of track whether it's kind of spring, summer, winter, autumn, um,
Speaker 2: and you also categorize it by the type of item
Speaker 2: it is. And then that way when you are looking,
Speaker 2: because you can actually view your entire wardrobe, is it
Speaker 2: images or can you? I'll have to show you, but yeah,
Speaker 2: you can see your entire your entire wardrobe at a glance,
Speaker 2: which is really handy when you're shopping, but yeah, that
Speaker 2: manual process and then every day you just kind of
Speaker 2: go in and you can log your outfit. So you
Speaker 2: can make outfits up.
Speaker 2: That you can refer back to later when you've got
Speaker 2: some free time on the couch and you just watch
Speaker 2: like that thing, remember in Clueless if anyone's of that
Speaker 2: era where she sat down and use that machine, it
Speaker 2: kind of like, yeah, there are apps that do that. I,
Speaker 2: but other ones do. Oh my gosh, I thought using
Speaker 2: notes on my phone was cool. OK, so you mentioned
Speaker 2: that it's also visual. So where does the image come from?
Speaker 2: Does it pull it from the internet or do you
Speaker 2: take the photos? You manually need to
Speaker 2: Upload the photos, so you can either take a photo
Speaker 2: of the product itself, um, in your home, and they
Speaker 2: do give you kind of guidelines on how to get
Speaker 2: the best photo or you can pull a product image
Speaker 2: from the brand website. Right. So if it's new, that's
Speaker 2: a good way to log it. So if I've got
Speaker 2: vintage or old stuff, I can take my own photo. Yes,
Speaker 2: but you can also find similar or a really good
Speaker 2: hack is to use chat GPT to create the image
Speaker 2: for you. How you describe the item or you take
Speaker 2: a photo and you upload it and then you
Speaker 2: Tell them to create a flat lay image of said
Speaker 2: item on a white background. Oh my gosh, you work
Speaker 2: in the future. I've taken some photos for Depop and it's,
Speaker 2: I guess it's kind of similar, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: good lighting, white background, steamed or blah, blah blah. OK,
Speaker 2: because I just had a look at the app on
Speaker 2: your phone and it's so pretty, so now I want it.
Speaker 2: So you get dressed, you've decided, OK, this is my
Speaker 2: outfit for the day. Do you go in then or
Speaker 2: do you do it at night when you're usually at
Speaker 2: night when I'm waiting for my daughter to fall asleep.
Speaker 2: What if you forget?
Speaker 2: Uh, I go back and I, I often I take
Speaker 2: photos of what I'm wearing, so I have kind of
Speaker 2: a reference or I usually have to kind of dig
Speaker 2: deep into the depths of my memory to recall what
Speaker 2: I was wearing sometimes or I'll ask my husband. Yes,
Speaker 2: like what was I wear? Did we go to dinner?
Speaker 2: What was I wearing? So tell me then what do
Speaker 2: you do with that info? Like monthly, do you do
Speaker 2: like a stocktake of like, OK, I really wear that
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 2: That was good cost per wear or why did I
Speaker 2: buy those? I haven't worn them. Like, what do you
Speaker 2: do with the info? So the app I'm using does
Speaker 2: have a paid feature which allows you to access all
Speaker 2: of those insights and currently they don't allow you to
Speaker 2: do it by a specific date range, but rather the
Speaker 2: last month, last 3 months, 6 months, yeah, and then
Speaker 2: all time. So you can kind of go back in
Speaker 2: and you can see what you didn't wear a single
Speaker 2: time over that previous month.
Speaker 2: Also, you get a visual catalog or diary of what
Speaker 2: you wore every single day for that month. So you
Speaker 2: can see patterns emerging like are you someone who is
Speaker 2: really only wearing a specific kind of pants? Do you
Speaker 2: like to wear dark colors on your lower half or
Speaker 2: on your upper half? Is there specific types of shoes
Speaker 2: that you're pairing with certain types of, I'm blown away,
Speaker 2: you know, I wanna, I desperately want to do this,
Speaker 2: but I just like, I just could never, but I,
Speaker 2: it would help so much because I'm thinking if you're
Speaker 2: going shopping, you can go in there and go.
Speaker 2: Oh, no, I mean those black pants are great, but
Speaker 2: actually no, I don't need those, whereas I go, I
Speaker 2: think I've only got one pair of black pants I like,
Speaker 2: and then I get home and I'm like, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: then I go, hi all you black pants that I
Speaker 2: forgot about. Yeah, I get tunnel vision sometimes as well,
Speaker 2: so it's a great way to ground myself and come
Speaker 2: back to Earth.
Speaker 2: That is phenomenal. OK, we'll do more about that later,
Speaker 2: but from your data and your app and your, the
Speaker 2: way I wish I was, what items are you wearing
Speaker 2: the most? Is there any unexpected? I feel like I
Speaker 2: need to actually refer to do. So, I want this app,
Speaker 2: but I don't know how I would go back and
Speaker 2: do it all. It's well, you can start from now.
Speaker 2: After a wardrobe clean out would be a good time
Speaker 2: to like do this at the end, actually a trick for.
Speaker 2: If you are doing any of these apps, is to
Speaker 2: just log things as you wear them because then it
Speaker 2: feels so much less daunting. And if you haven't worn
Speaker 2: it by default, it's not on the list, so then
Speaker 2: you can do your wardrobe clean up and go, you've
Speaker 2: never been on my list later. Yeah, yeah, that makes
Speaker 2: it so much more approachable doing it. So you've got
Speaker 2: 300 things or more in your wardrobe. The idea of
Speaker 2: putting all of those into an app at once. I
Speaker 2: wear 10%, that's good, you know, you start with that.
Speaker 2: OK, so tell me what do you wear the most.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be the exact item, but black
Speaker 2: jeans like you're wearing, or, well, OK, so it's winter
Speaker 2: right now. So a low, some sort of low heel
Speaker 2: boot like the ones I've got on now or my
Speaker 2: current most worn are from Saint Agne, and I think
Speaker 2: I've worn them 25 times since I bought them 2
Speaker 2: months ago, 3 months ago, which is pretty good. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I'd be like, Tick, you're a good person,
Speaker 2: you can go shopping in.
Speaker 2: Get a especially because I've got a good rotation of
Speaker 2: items in my wardrobe, either a small crossbody bag or
Speaker 2: like a larger shoulder bag. I'm kind of all or
Speaker 2: nothing when it comes to that. Um, really slouchy kind
Speaker 2: of knitwear. I splurged to see if it was worth
Speaker 2: it on the Ophelia sweater from the row, and so
Speaker 2: I've made a point of trying to actually get my
Speaker 2: cost per wear out of it because and so far.
Speaker 2: So good. I've worn it 15 times in the last
Speaker 2: few months, which I think is pretty decent. Amazing. And
Speaker 2: next winter, you know, it's the and the winter after
Speaker 2: and forever and ever and ever. Also just like a
Speaker 2: good quality belt. So I've a leather belt that's I've
Speaker 2: worn over 100, probably over 200 times at this point. Um,
Speaker 2: and yeah, dark colored jeans. I really like a washed
Speaker 2: black jean shape.
Speaker 2: I'm not that, I'm not that bothered. No, I'm not
Speaker 2: that bothered. Look, I'm back into almost skinny straight. I
Speaker 2: actually like that silhouette and I think, I think the
Speaker 2: skinny has a bad rap. It's all about styling of proportions,
Speaker 2: but I think the slim, slim straight is really flattering.
Speaker 2: And this is so old. If I were you and
Speaker 2: had this app for all you know, the data from
Speaker 2: so long ago, I could see that I wore them
Speaker 2: last probably 4 years ago, but now they're back. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 2: that's fascinating. OK, so.
Speaker 2: What do you do when you look in there and
Speaker 2: then there's stuff that you haven't really worn much and
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, OK, I obviously don't reach for those things.
Speaker 2: What do you do then? So I actually use that
Speaker 2: as a prompt to go, I want to wear this,
Speaker 2: I want to make the most of what I have
Speaker 2: in my wardrobe. So to me it's actually a tool
Speaker 2: like a challenge. Yeah, so I go, OK, well I
Speaker 2: haven't been wearing this, I want to bring it into
Speaker 2: rotation and it actually allows me to wear a larger
Speaker 2: percentage of my wardrobe more frequently than I would otherwise. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because if you, well, I don't know about you.
Speaker 2: But for me, if I don't, I can't see it,
Speaker 2: I don't reach for it. Yeah, and also you default
Speaker 2: to the same things all the time, so that's a
Speaker 2: great way to kind of increase that variety and and
Speaker 2: your styling. So what patterns are you picking up or
Speaker 2: how can everybody use this to work out kind of
Speaker 2: colors and more than just the items themselves or the
Speaker 2: outfits you've made but
Speaker 2: I guess working out your personal style, colors, textures, cuts,
Speaker 2: do you use it to look at things like that?
Speaker 2: Probably less so for that. I more like to see
Speaker 2: trends in the specific types of items that I'm reaching
Speaker 2: for and also I suppose the trends in how I'm
Speaker 2: wearing my clothing because I can see even just in
Speaker 2: the evolution of my own style that
Speaker 2: Previously I opted a lot more for like overly feminine pieces,
Speaker 2: a lot more dresses, and in the summertime I would
Speaker 2: really default a lot to denim shorts. But since maybe
Speaker 2: the last year or two, I've started wearing cotton pants
Speaker 2: in the summertime and that's something I can see just
Speaker 2: from looking at my styling in the app. Yeah, right, OK.
Speaker 2: I feel like
Speaker 2: Because I'm quite neutral, I'd say you're quite classically neutral.
Speaker 2: I'm quite neutral, but I do have some color that
Speaker 2: I have, but I don't know how to wear it,
Speaker 2: but if I've logged it all, then I can kind
Speaker 2: of see, actually I do have quite a few green
Speaker 2: things I could do color blocking or I could try
Speaker 2: that green with that lilac, which I would never think here,
Speaker 2: but you can see it.
Speaker 2: In the app. Yeah, because you can also filter by
Speaker 2: color as well so you can kind of get an
Speaker 2: overview of all of the things you have in one
Speaker 2: color palette, but you do have that freedom, that flexibility
Speaker 2: to just build outfits and play around. So if you
Speaker 2: have something you're really struggling to style, having that kind
Speaker 2: of visual representation.
Speaker 2: Can help. I mean, it always translates differently in real life,
Speaker 2: but yeah, but at least try it, especially if you're
Speaker 2: out and about because sometimes I think what am I
Speaker 2: gonna wear to that event tonight? I've got to rush
Speaker 2: home and get ready, but I can't see my wardrobe,
Speaker 2: but if it's on my phone, you are a genius, OK.
Speaker 2: I'm a massive Pinterest fan. I don't know about you,
Speaker 2: but do you use Pinterest to inspire you, or are
Speaker 2: there other websites, platforms, blogs that you look at for
Speaker 2: inspiration and then kind of refer to your data to
Speaker 2: see if you've got similar items or do you do
Speaker 2: any other sort of research that way? So, I don't
Speaker 2: know about you, but I actually find Pinterest now is 80% ads.
Speaker 2: It is not very user friendly anymore. I kind of
Speaker 2: browse through and I go, OK, where, where is what
Speaker 2: I'm actually looking for? A lot of ads. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I don't use it as a tool as much.
Speaker 2: I used to in the past. I think these days
Speaker 2: instead I'm more so inspired by silhouettes or even just
Speaker 2: e-commerce styling. So, oh wow, like on websites you'll have
Speaker 2: a look at, yeah, OK, you can get some great
Speaker 2: ideas and not only that, just what you see in
Speaker 2: Fashion Week, so those kind of trends trickling through. There
Speaker 2: are easy ways that you can co-opt those trends into
Speaker 2: your own styling that maybe don't require any shopping. So
Speaker 2: you see some street style, you know, Copenhagen Fashion Week
Speaker 2: was a few weeks ago now.
Speaker 2: You see some stuff on Instagram. Do you then use
Speaker 2: that info to go back into your data and think, oh,
Speaker 2: I would have never thought to mix a skirt like
Speaker 2: that with a blazer like that. And I've got similar. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's definitely a great way you can use it and, um,
Speaker 2: Index in particular do this thing called social styling, so
Speaker 2: you can let other people into your wardrobe and style you.
Speaker 2: So I have an open wardrobes so fun. It's like
Speaker 2: playing dress-ups, but.
Speaker 2: It's really cool. And so I've had some really great
Speaker 2: fantastic outfit ideas and suggestions come through just through the
Speaker 2: social styling component, and they're ones that I never would
Speaker 2: have thought of like, um, I got a great way
Speaker 2: to do that for someone else though. I can't even
Speaker 2: get myself dressed, but I, you know, it's so creative
Speaker 2: and that's cool. It is. It's a book club for fashion.
Speaker 2: It's like Polyboard. Do you remember that from way back when? Yeah. Um,
Speaker 2: and so I got
Speaker 2: This great outfit idea. It was like um these shorts
Speaker 2: that I have with a knee-high boot and I would
Speaker 2: never ever pair those two things together with a fitted
Speaker 2: long sleeve and then this oversized sleeveless blazer, which and
Speaker 2: someone went in and said, you should try this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is so cool. I tried it on and I
Speaker 2: was just, I was obsessed. I thought this is genius.
Speaker 2: It's also like video games for grownups because you know
Speaker 2: how kids or you know people game each other. That's
Speaker 2: so awesome.
Speaker 2: Tell me when it's sale time, because this is where
Speaker 2: all my logic goes out the window. You seem a
Speaker 2: bit more measured than me, but, you know, there's sales
Speaker 2: on and it's then an extra 25% off and I go,
Speaker 2: Oh my God, and I jump on and buy things.
Speaker 2: How do you approach data and emotions, particularly when, you know,
Speaker 2: it's could be a really good price? How do you
Speaker 2: marry the two? So I have something called the 30
Speaker 2: day shopping rule, and I will say that, yes, there
Speaker 2: are always
Speaker 2: Gonna be exceptions. Sometimes you see something, you have this
Speaker 2: emotional urge to add it to your wardrobe, and if
Speaker 2: you have the money to do so, you know, and
Speaker 2: it's the timing's right, but I usually try and wait
Speaker 2: at least 30 days and to think about an item. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but the sale's only for 3 days. What are you
Speaker 2: gonna do? Just wait for the next 10, you're.
Speaker 2: I, I'm of the belief that there's always another sale,
Speaker 2: and there's so true. And honestly, the marketing works and
Speaker 2: that's why I get frantic, you know, it was click
Speaker 2: frenzy a little while ago and I ignored all of it.
Speaker 2: But then I sat down at my laptop on the
Speaker 2: Monday and that's when all you think it's over and
Speaker 2: all the brands go, extra discount. And that's when I
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, what am I missing? But you're so right,
Speaker 2: there's another sale. Well, there isn't, have you ever used Carted? Yes,
Speaker 2: I've only just got carted. You need to give us
Speaker 2: a list of all the good apps.
Speaker 2: Explain Carter for people that don't know. It's a wish
Speaker 2: listing app, so you add the things that you're thinking
Speaker 2: about buying to it and then it tracks when it
Speaker 2: goes on sale. So you get an alert if it
Speaker 2: goes on sale, you get an alert if the item restocks.
Speaker 2: Just say the items available at multiple retailers you can
Speaker 2: link all the retailers and it will tell you if
Speaker 2: one's offering it a better price, but I don't look
Speaker 2: at things before I realize I want to buy them.
Speaker 2: I just go, oh, EDM, oh, sale. But you know,
Speaker 2: that's so clever and then you can watch it.
Speaker 2: And maybe you, they get an alert and it's like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's restocked but it's on sale and you go, actually,
Speaker 2: I don't really want it anymore. Yeah, and you find
Speaker 2: that waiting, waiting at least, you know, a week even
Speaker 2: that many of the items that you thought you wanted
Speaker 2: to buy have slowly been filtered out. They've been forgotten,
Speaker 2: you know, they've been lost to time. Because it was
Speaker 2: an emotional purchase.
Speaker 2: Or an impulse purchase rather than a strategic one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you need to do courses. So say we're all a
Speaker 2: data person now or we've started to do this. It
Speaker 2: helps with our existing wardrobe, but then how do we
Speaker 2: use that info going forward about purchasing?
Speaker 2: So I think you can see trends in terms of
Speaker 2: what colors you're actually reaching for, so identifying the ones
Speaker 2: that are kind of your core colors because we have,
Speaker 2: you can do seasonal color analysis, but I think we gravitate.
Speaker 2: I hated mine to stick with it and then I
Speaker 2: go to the shops I'm like, but I like that yellow,
Speaker 2: and I'm not allowed to wear that green, but yes,
Speaker 2: so you can do that, but.
Speaker 2: I think we gravitate towards the colors that we really
Speaker 2: enjoy and that make us feel good and that's kind
Speaker 2: of what you want to feel in your clothes. So
Speaker 2: that can be a useful tool, but you end up
Speaker 2: wearing the colors that you like the most. That can
Speaker 2: be one kind of thing. It can help you identify
Speaker 2: what you aren't wearing, so knowing I'm not gonna buy
Speaker 2: that in the future. So there's a saying like love
Speaker 2: to buy, hate to wear. So maybe you keep buying.
Speaker 2: Like button up shirts that you're wearing today, but you
Speaker 2: never wear them. OK, so you love them. You only
Speaker 2: need a certain amount. Well, that's true, but if you're
Speaker 2: never wearing them, it's wasted space in your wardrobe and
Speaker 2: also your time and your budget. So that can be
Speaker 2: a great way to kind of filter out those bad purchases. Well,
Speaker 2: for me, I mean, similar to that because I've spoken
Speaker 2: a lot on the podcast how much I love hombre shirts,
Speaker 2: but I definitely don't need another one. And so if
Speaker 2: I'm in store or at my laptop, I can go.
Speaker 2: No, Lee, you've got enough, or you know if you,
Speaker 2: you know, resell those ones you're allowed, whereas I forget,
Speaker 2: so it's either seeing what you don't wear and not
Speaker 2: buying any more of that or realizing you have too
Speaker 2: many of something and you don't need another one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, can I pay you to like start?
Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll be able to answer this,
Speaker 2: but through, you know, a data lens which you've been
Speaker 2: doing for a really long time, do you reckon there's
Speaker 2: a kind of general optimal number of items in our wardrobe.
Speaker 2: That kind of on average every person would have, or
Speaker 2: is that just too hard. So I feel like the
Speaker 2: perfect size wardrobe doesn't exist because everyone has a different lifestyle,
Speaker 2: they're doing different activities but also live in different climates,
Speaker 2: and that's really gonna dictate the needs of your wardrobe. Um,
Speaker 2: I've kind of looked into hundreds of people's wardrobes and
Speaker 2: it's interesting, you see a really big difference in the numbers.
Speaker 2: Some people might have.
Speaker 2: 50 items whereas others have over 450. And while maybe
Speaker 2: the ones with over 450 in their wardrobe aren't wearing
Speaker 2: every single thing all the time, perhaps they're things that
Speaker 2: give them joy if they've got sentimental value. But ultimately
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we typically need less
Speaker 2: than we think. Absolutely. Yeah. You can do a lot
Speaker 2: with a little and yeah. I mean 10 items you
Speaker 2: can easily turn that into, you know, 40.
Speaker 2: Plus outfits with interesting use that kind of data to
Speaker 2: like I guess it would be so good for packing
Speaker 2: because then you can work out combinations. 100% and you
Speaker 2: can also see how you've styled items in the past.
Speaker 2: You kind of got a library and index of outfits
Speaker 2: to kind of go back to. I'm most inspired to
Speaker 2: do this just for packing because I'm always paying overweight
Speaker 2: because I'm like maybe I'll wear that ball gown. Maybe
Speaker 2: I want to be that person. No, yeah, you need
Speaker 2: it for that. And like you said, people might live
Speaker 2: somewhere where it snows in winter but it's really hot.
Speaker 2: You know, whereas if you're from Townsville, you probably don't
Speaker 2: need 15 coats. Yeah, love it. Talk to me about
Speaker 2: your YouTube series, it's called Influences Made me Buy It.
Speaker 2: And what is this all about? OK, so I think
Speaker 2: we've all had that purchase or maybe more than one,
Speaker 2: which we have been influenced to buy because we've seen
Speaker 2: someone talk about it and they've made it look so appealing, like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's on the silver platter and it just
Speaker 2: looks so shiny and
Speaker 2: We want to add it to our wardrobes because we
Speaker 2: think if we buy that it's going to, I don't
Speaker 2: know be life changer. You think it's gonna solve all
Speaker 2: your problems. Yeah, absolutely. And so do you buy these
Speaker 2: items or review these items or these are things I've
Speaker 2: naturally just added into my wardrobe and so it kind
Speaker 2: of just was birth from me reflecting on the things
Speaker 2: that I've bought, what have been good purchases and what
Speaker 2: have been bad.
Speaker 2: Because I, I look back at the end of every
Speaker 2: year and I go, what were my best purchases that
Speaker 2: I made? What were the worst ones? I like that.
Speaker 2: I obviously follow you and love your content. I love
Speaker 2: when you do, I regret these or I don't wear
Speaker 2: these because I find that, not that it's more helpful,
Speaker 2: but people mostly post about things they love, whereas, you know, seeing, OK,
Speaker 2: that didn't work, it's like, oh, OK, firstly I'm human too,
Speaker 2: and secondly,
Speaker 2: That's a good PSA for me. I just think more,
Speaker 2: you know, not that we're trying to be negative about brands,
Speaker 2: it's more so that it just didn't work for you,
Speaker 2: and I think that there needs to be more of that.
Speaker 2: So I really like that because we're all human. Have
Speaker 2: you got things in your wardrobe with tags on?
Speaker 2: Um, I'm sure I do. I love that. I try
Speaker 2: to wear stuff the week I buy it, but I'm
Speaker 2: so excited. But no, sometimes when you're doing that clean
Speaker 2: out and you're like, you know, we're gonna regret it,
Speaker 2: but I think everyone does that and you can learn
Speaker 2: from it if you clock the data. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's very expensive. Damn, honey. How much are these? 25%.
Speaker 2: OK, bougie and budget. So, you might actually have data
Speaker 2: on yours. I absolutely do not. But it's something that
Speaker 2: we might be considering and think we'll get a lot
Speaker 2: of wear out of or new season items or stuff
Speaker 2: that you've just worn to death, hence your data. Do
Speaker 2: you want to start with your bougie or your budget?
Speaker 2: My budget. OK, let's do your budget. OK, so I'm
Speaker 2: wearing them right now. They're a pair of
Speaker 2: Jeans from H&M and they are the best jeans. One,
Speaker 2: the quality is exceptional for the price. I think they're
Speaker 2: $50 but often on sale for $40. Wow. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was there like, I thought they were really fancy from here.
Speaker 2: The denim looks quite thick, it's a beautiful black, like
Speaker 2: it's not solid solid, but it's not too washed. They're
Speaker 2: so good. Um, they remind me a lot of a
Speaker 2: pair of jeans I've got from New Zealand.
Speaker 2: Brand I love called Mal. I love Mal too, yeah, yeah, H&M.
Speaker 2: I have some H&M denim. Yeah, I'm gonna go get
Speaker 2: the black ones. So super underrated and I have another
Speaker 2: pair of jeans from H&M which are great too. So
Speaker 2: I've got the black, like white wide barrel, of course. Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's probably my fanciest black barrel ones because I don't
Speaker 2: want to do the really expensive version. OK, so my
Speaker 2: budget is, I reflected on my wardrobe, don't have data,
Speaker 2: but I love a white tea. I live in a
Speaker 2: white tea.
Speaker 2: I have so many, but I actually wear a lot
Speaker 2: of them, most of them, and I think it's mostly
Speaker 2: because I'm messy and can soak them and they come
Speaker 2: out quite good. But a lot of the Uniqlo ones,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna recommend that again because listeners will be
Speaker 2: over it, but, but they are good and they're the best,
Speaker 2: they are the best. I know the one with the
Speaker 2: thick crew neck. However, the other day I wore a
Speaker 2: brown t-shirt and I remembered how much I loved it
Speaker 2: and the brand does a white, so I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: the white.
Speaker 2: It's called Cream. I don't know if you know this brand.
Speaker 2: They're two Aussie girls, Sydney-based, C R E M M E. Unisex,
Speaker 2: very similar to the Uniqlo, a beautiful thick cotton, but not,
Speaker 2: not stiff. It just feels really good quality. I think
Speaker 2: they're about $69 and the brown one I, I love,
Speaker 2: and they're unisex, but there's two versions of the cuts.
Speaker 2: They're very slightly different but still sort of oversized.
Speaker 2: classic. I do a little cuff on the sleeve, which
Speaker 2: adds interest. I just, the brown one I've trashed, and
Speaker 2: also you can't bleach brown. So it's obviously good quality,
Speaker 2: so I'm going to get the white one, because I
Speaker 2: just live in white tees. I've got a lot of
Speaker 2: sun damage. I often hide this and I just feel
Speaker 2: like it's my more elevated version of a singlet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, bougie, please. OK, so mine are a pair of
Speaker 2: heels from 80. Um, I, 80 is hands down, one
Speaker 2: of my favorite shoe brands because they're kind of in
Speaker 2: that mid-tier price point so not quite luxury but not
Speaker 2: high street. The quality of the shoes is excellent and
Speaker 2: they suit wide feet. I don't do uncomfortable shoes and
Speaker 2: I like the fact that they accommodate my feet. I
Speaker 2: can stand in them all day. OK, but what's the
Speaker 2: They're pointed toe pump from 80. I actually already have
Speaker 2: them in the black and so I ordered the chocolate
Speaker 2: suede and they come in a tan too, which is
Speaker 2: a little like a low heel, yeah, so it kind
Speaker 2: of gives you that lift, it adds a sharpness to
Speaker 2: an outfit, very chic. I've never bought anything from the brand,
Speaker 2: but I have hearted a lot of things on Depop,
Speaker 2: so maybe I'll go buy some. I think we're similar sizes.
Speaker 2: So if you sell me, let me know.
Speaker 2: My bougie is here with me because since I got her,
Speaker 2: I have not stopped using her. Veri, the Aussie brand,
Speaker 2: does handbags. I've got so many of their handbags. This
Speaker 2: is the Eden leather shoulder bag, $329. I had an
Speaker 2: extremely old Oriin bag that fully zipped shut that was
Speaker 2: just dead.
Speaker 2: And I've been looking for one this size, medium, for
Speaker 2: so long, and it's phenomenal. Then there's two sections inside,
Speaker 2: great size because then I have a separate laptop bag
Speaker 2: if I'm kind of coming to work or whatever, but
Speaker 2: just every day I still need, I don't know why
Speaker 2: I have so many things. I just have a lot
Speaker 2: of things. And so that's the perfect size. It's super
Speaker 2: comfy and it comes in a suede too. There's a,
Speaker 2: a bunch of colors, and I'm normally quite a frequent
Speaker 2: bag changer.
Speaker 2: But I honestly have used this like it's in my 10%.
Speaker 2: I would use it 5 days a week. It's really
Speaker 2: classic and the leather of their bags is $329. That
Speaker 2: is a lot of money for a handbag, but I
Speaker 2: would say the quality is better or on par than
Speaker 2: some bags that I've got that were $600 or over $1000.
Speaker 2: Love it. So I didn't even mean to bring her
Speaker 2: for show and tell, but she's always with me. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much. I'm so inspired and overwhelmed. I don't
Speaker 2: know how to use Excel, but this sounds a little
Speaker 2: bit more fun and friendly, so I'm gonna start doing
Speaker 2: this and I'll report back. Yes, you need to download
Speaker 2: the app. Thanks Jamie. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me for Nothing to wear,
Speaker 2: and don't forget, if you want more fashion from us,
Speaker 2: we're on YouTube and on Instagram, we're called Nothing to
Speaker 2: wear Pod. See you next week.