1 00:00:11,405 --> 00:00:14,244 Speaker 1: Whoever said orange is the new pink was seriously disturbed. 2 00:00:14,324 --> 00:00:18,444 Speaker 2: Laurels for spring. Groundbreaking. Oh my God, you have to 3 00:00:18,444 --> 00:00:20,125 Speaker 2: do it. You live for fashion. 4 00:00:21,425 --> 00:00:24,234 Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to Nothing to wear, the podcast that 5 00:00:24,234 --> 00:00:27,404 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. Each week, 6 00:00:27,474 --> 00:00:29,435 Speaker 2: I sit down with an expert who helps us work 7 00:00:29,435 --> 00:00:31,154 Speaker 2: out how to get more out of the clothes we 8 00:00:31,154 --> 00:00:34,115 Speaker 2: already own and tells us what is and isn't worth 9 00:00:34,115 --> 00:00:38,494 Speaker 2: adding to our wardrobe. This week is exactly that. I 10 00:00:38,494 --> 00:00:42,074 Speaker 2: am joined by Jamie Lee. She is a Sydney-based stylist, 11 00:00:42,234 --> 00:00:44,554 Speaker 2: one of my favorite channels to follow on Instagram. 12 00:00:45,135 --> 00:00:47,775 Speaker 2: She's the exact opposite of me. She is a data nerd, 13 00:00:47,815 --> 00:00:50,455 Speaker 2: and for over a decade, she has been logging every 14 00:00:50,455 --> 00:00:53,534 Speaker 2: single item she buys or owns, and when she wears it. 15 00:00:53,574 --> 00:00:56,495 Speaker 2: And from there, she's got this amazing visual library of 16 00:00:56,495 --> 00:00:59,734 Speaker 2: all her clothes, including everything she wears the most, stuff 17 00:00:59,734 --> 00:01:01,964 Speaker 2: she doesn't really wear, so then she can sell it, 18 00:01:02,214 --> 00:01:05,284 Speaker 2: and everything in between. So, let's chat to Jamie about 19 00:01:05,284 --> 00:01:07,815 Speaker 2: how she keeps this data and why she does it 20 00:01:07,815 --> 00:01:09,955 Speaker 2: and why I am about to try and do the same. 21 00:01:10,295 --> 00:01:13,895 Speaker 2: Jamie Lee, my Instagram friend, welcome to Nothing to wear. 22 00:01:14,605 --> 00:01:17,605 Speaker 2: Before we get into the topic, which I've been begging 23 00:01:17,605 --> 00:01:20,845 Speaker 2: you to come on because it's fascinating, there's two questions 24 00:01:20,845 --> 00:01:22,764 Speaker 2: I ask everyone their first time on the show. So 25 00:01:22,764 --> 00:01:25,245 Speaker 2: the first one is, can you describe your style in 26 00:01:25,245 --> 00:01:27,245 Speaker 2: 3 words? Yeah, so I actually was having a bit 27 00:01:27,245 --> 00:01:29,965 Speaker 2: of a think about this and I would say feminine, 28 00:01:30,084 --> 00:01:32,764 Speaker 2: polished and undone. There's always kind of a layer of 29 00:01:32,764 --> 00:01:35,845 Speaker 2: each of those and most of my outfits, all of them. Yes, 30 00:01:36,065 --> 00:01:39,364 Speaker 2: because um when you say feminine, I'm like, no, but 31 00:01:39,364 --> 00:01:41,915 Speaker 2: when you add them all together, it's an equation. Yeah. 32 00:01:42,535 --> 00:01:45,254 Speaker 2: Undone, but the coolest like chic undone. I look at 33 00:01:45,254 --> 00:01:47,855 Speaker 2: you and I'm like on Instagram and I'm like, I'm 34 00:01:47,855 --> 00:01:51,444 Speaker 2: in my disgusting Kmart tracksuit pants that are my favorites, 35 00:01:51,565 --> 00:01:53,895 Speaker 2: but I know Instagram's not everything. I love those three 36 00:01:53,895 --> 00:01:56,535 Speaker 2: words together and Instagram versus real life, yeah, and I 37 00:01:56,535 --> 00:01:58,904 Speaker 2: love that those three words, like you need all three 38 00:01:58,904 --> 00:02:02,575 Speaker 2: to create the picture. OK. Lots of people wear a 39 00:02:02,575 --> 00:02:05,364 Speaker 2: really small amount or a smaller amount of their wardrobe 40 00:02:05,775 --> 00:02:09,135 Speaker 2: more than the rest. So the 9010 rule or some 41 00:02:09,135 --> 00:02:10,775 Speaker 2: people say 80/20, but 42 00:02:11,205 --> 00:02:13,974 Speaker 2: The smaller amount that they wear the most, and I 43 00:02:13,974 --> 00:02:16,325 Speaker 2: guess this is kind of what this whole topic is about. 44 00:02:16,455 --> 00:02:17,814 Speaker 2: So we don't want to give too much away, but 45 00:02:17,814 --> 00:02:20,215 Speaker 2: what's in your most reached for? OK, so I was 46 00:02:20,215 --> 00:02:21,534 Speaker 2: having a look at what I wear all the time 47 00:02:21,534 --> 00:02:25,375 Speaker 2: because I'm a data nerd and I would say tailored trousers, 48 00:02:25,454 --> 00:02:27,454 Speaker 2: because they had that nice polish, a really good pair 49 00:02:27,454 --> 00:02:30,894 Speaker 2: of jeans, some sort of a shoe that's comfortable but 50 00:02:30,894 --> 00:02:34,844 Speaker 2: also has a bit of a lifted refined feel or quirky. 51 00:02:34,935 --> 00:02:35,765 Speaker 2: You have cool like 52 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:40,319 Speaker 2: Quirky but like still classic quirky like the Tory Burcher 53 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: heels and like the boots you're wearing like sculptural heels 54 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 2: a little bit different. OK, so that's what you reach 55 00:02:47,519 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: for most. Yeah, I mean kind of those essentials most 56 00:02:50,239 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: people tend to have in their wardrobes, but I would 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,709 Speaker 2: just say versions that feel more like myself rather than 58 00:02:54,709 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: what you might find on a capsule wardrobe template. Yes, yes, 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: that's a very good point. I feel like we're all 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: over that capsule wardrobe. 61 00:03:00,974 --> 00:03:03,415 Speaker 2: OK, the topic. I don't know if you told me 62 00:03:03,415 --> 00:03:05,084 Speaker 2: in real life because we often see each other at events, 63 00:03:05,204 --> 00:03:07,885 Speaker 2: or I saw it on Instagram or both, but you, 64 00:03:08,364 --> 00:03:10,885 Speaker 2: as you said, are a data nerd. Oh, I'd love 65 00:03:10,885 --> 00:03:14,204 Speaker 2: to be like you. Everything's a vibes for me, just vibes. 66 00:03:14,325 --> 00:03:16,894 Speaker 2: You use your phone to keep track of what items 67 00:03:16,894 --> 00:03:19,844 Speaker 2: you're actually wearing and how much. So talk us through that. 68 00:03:19,965 --> 00:03:22,364 Speaker 2: What is the app? How does it work? So I've 69 00:03:22,364 --> 00:03:24,364 Speaker 2: actually been tracking what I wear since I was in 70 00:03:24,364 --> 00:03:26,844 Speaker 2: my early 20s. So I'm talking over a decade at 71 00:03:26,844 --> 00:03:27,885 Speaker 2: this point. I used to do. 72 00:03:27,989 --> 00:03:30,379 Speaker 2: Merely using a spreadsheet on Excel or just a piece 73 00:03:30,379 --> 00:03:33,420 Speaker 2: of paper at one point. Um, and so now I've 74 00:03:33,420 --> 00:03:35,019 Speaker 2: kind of progressed onto an app which makes it a 75 00:03:35,019 --> 00:03:38,579 Speaker 2: lot easier. So I use one called index and I 76 00:03:38,579 --> 00:03:41,540 Speaker 2: like it because of the functionality. I'm kind of an aesthete, 77 00:03:41,579 --> 00:03:43,780 Speaker 2: so things have to look a particular way for me 78 00:03:43,780 --> 00:03:45,819 Speaker 2: to want to use it. I can imagine your Excel 79 00:03:45,819 --> 00:03:47,739 Speaker 2: spreadsheets were beautifully color coded and 80 00:03:48,135 --> 00:03:51,045 Speaker 2: Oh, not quite. Just just sells all matched up. Mine 81 00:03:51,045 --> 00:03:53,194 Speaker 2: looked like a kid went in and mucked up a puzzle. 82 00:03:53,525 --> 00:03:56,644 Speaker 2: So how does the app work? Do you buy something 83 00:03:56,644 --> 00:03:58,765 Speaker 2: new or you've added everything you own and then every 84 00:03:58,765 --> 00:04:01,084 Speaker 2: time you wear it, you add like a tally? Yeah, 85 00:04:01,245 --> 00:04:03,424 Speaker 2: so there's a real manual process to where you have 86 00:04:03,424 --> 00:04:06,045 Speaker 2: to kind of go in, upload every single item one 87 00:04:06,045 --> 00:04:07,754 Speaker 2: by one. So you put in the brand name, you 88 00:04:07,754 --> 00:04:07,985 Speaker 2: put 89 00:04:08,030 --> 00:04:11,019 Speaker 2: The size, color, all that kind of information, and then 90 00:04:11,019 --> 00:04:13,090 Speaker 2: you can add in the price when you bought it, 91 00:04:13,239 --> 00:04:15,579 Speaker 2: if it was pre-owned or if it was. That's what 92 00:04:15,579 --> 00:04:17,620 Speaker 2: I was gonna say because I love thrifting, can I 93 00:04:17,620 --> 00:04:20,969 Speaker 2: just do like Levi's denim shirt? Like you don't have 94 00:04:20,969 --> 00:04:22,939 Speaker 2: to know all the info. No, you don't even have 95 00:04:22,939 --> 00:04:25,299 Speaker 2: to write in the actual name of the product. Yeah, 96 00:04:25,420 --> 00:04:27,499 Speaker 2: so you put in just a brand name, um, and 97 00:04:27,499 --> 00:04:27,890 Speaker 2: then 98 00:04:28,075 --> 00:04:31,754 Speaker 2: You kind of track whether it's kind of spring, summer, winter, autumn, um, 99 00:04:31,805 --> 00:04:33,694 Speaker 2: and you also categorize it by the type of item 100 00:04:33,694 --> 00:04:36,194 Speaker 2: it is. And then that way when you are looking, 101 00:04:36,305 --> 00:04:38,955 Speaker 2: because you can actually view your entire wardrobe, is it 102 00:04:38,955 --> 00:04:41,585 Speaker 2: images or can you? I'll have to show you, but yeah, 103 00:04:41,654 --> 00:04:45,194 Speaker 2: you can see your entire your entire wardrobe at a glance, 104 00:04:45,295 --> 00:04:47,774 Speaker 2: which is really handy when you're shopping, but yeah, that 105 00:04:47,774 --> 00:04:49,774 Speaker 2: manual process and then every day you just kind of 106 00:04:49,774 --> 00:04:52,455 Speaker 2: go in and you can log your outfit. So you 107 00:04:52,455 --> 00:04:53,694 Speaker 2: can make outfits up. 108 00:04:53,926 --> 00:04:55,646 Speaker 2: That you can refer back to later when you've got 109 00:04:55,646 --> 00:04:57,366 Speaker 2: some free time on the couch and you just watch 110 00:04:57,366 --> 00:05:00,606 Speaker 2: like that thing, remember in Clueless if anyone's of that 111 00:05:00,606 --> 00:05:02,627 Speaker 2: era where she sat down and use that machine, it 112 00:05:02,627 --> 00:05:05,336 Speaker 2: kind of like, yeah, there are apps that do that. I, 113 00:05:05,926 --> 00:05:09,127 Speaker 2: but other ones do. Oh my gosh, I thought using 114 00:05:09,127 --> 00:05:11,796 Speaker 2: notes on my phone was cool. OK, so you mentioned 115 00:05:11,796 --> 00:05:14,486 Speaker 2: that it's also visual. So where does the image come from? 116 00:05:14,567 --> 00:05:17,486 Speaker 2: Does it pull it from the internet or do you 117 00:05:17,486 --> 00:05:19,437 Speaker 2: take the photos? You manually need to 118 00:05:19,489 --> 00:05:21,218 Speaker 2: Upload the photos, so you can either take a photo 119 00:05:21,218 --> 00:05:24,429 Speaker 2: of the product itself, um, in your home, and they 120 00:05:24,429 --> 00:05:25,999 Speaker 2: do give you kind of guidelines on how to get 121 00:05:25,999 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 2: the best photo or you can pull a product image 122 00:05:28,679 --> 00:05:30,918 Speaker 2: from the brand website. Right. So if it's new, that's 123 00:05:30,918 --> 00:05:32,438 Speaker 2: a good way to log it. So if I've got 124 00:05:32,438 --> 00:05:35,038 Speaker 2: vintage or old stuff, I can take my own photo. Yes, 125 00:05:35,109 --> 00:05:37,589 Speaker 2: but you can also find similar or a really good 126 00:05:37,589 --> 00:05:39,758 Speaker 2: hack is to use chat GPT to create the image 127 00:05:39,758 --> 00:05:43,399 Speaker 2: for you. How you describe the item or you take 128 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:45,149 Speaker 2: a photo and you upload it and then you 129 00:05:45,210 --> 00:05:47,750 Speaker 2: Tell them to create a flat lay image of said 130 00:05:47,750 --> 00:05:49,951 Speaker 2: item on a white background. Oh my gosh, you work 131 00:05:49,951 --> 00:05:52,740 Speaker 2: in the future. I've taken some photos for Depop and it's, 132 00:05:52,830 --> 00:05:54,231 Speaker 2: I guess it's kind of similar, but it's like, you know, 133 00:05:54,310 --> 00:05:58,300 Speaker 2: good lighting, white background, steamed or blah, blah blah. OK, 134 00:05:58,430 --> 00:05:59,391 Speaker 2: because I just had a look at the app on 135 00:05:59,391 --> 00:06:01,490 Speaker 2: your phone and it's so pretty, so now I want it. 136 00:06:01,791 --> 00:06:04,791 Speaker 2: So you get dressed, you've decided, OK, this is my 137 00:06:04,791 --> 00:06:06,631 Speaker 2: outfit for the day. Do you go in then or 138 00:06:06,631 --> 00:06:08,470 Speaker 2: do you do it at night when you're usually at 139 00:06:08,470 --> 00:06:10,830 Speaker 2: night when I'm waiting for my daughter to fall asleep. 140 00:06:11,270 --> 00:06:12,111 Speaker 2: What if you forget? 141 00:06:12,684 --> 00:06:15,244 Speaker 2: Uh, I go back and I, I often I take 142 00:06:15,244 --> 00:06:16,925 Speaker 2: photos of what I'm wearing, so I have kind of 143 00:06:16,925 --> 00:06:20,124 Speaker 2: a reference or I usually have to kind of dig 144 00:06:20,124 --> 00:06:22,964 Speaker 2: deep into the depths of my memory to recall what 145 00:06:22,964 --> 00:06:25,915 Speaker 2: I was wearing sometimes or I'll ask my husband. Yes, 146 00:06:26,165 --> 00:06:27,724 Speaker 2: like what was I wear? Did we go to dinner? 147 00:06:27,805 --> 00:06:29,964 Speaker 2: What was I wearing? So tell me then what do 148 00:06:29,964 --> 00:06:32,235 Speaker 2: you do with that info? Like monthly, do you do 149 00:06:32,235 --> 00:06:35,165 Speaker 2: like a stocktake of like, OK, I really wear that 150 00:06:35,165 --> 00:06:35,485 Speaker 2: a lot. 151 00:06:35,678 --> 00:06:37,507 Speaker 2: That was good cost per wear or why did I 152 00:06:37,507 --> 00:06:39,468 Speaker 2: buy those? I haven't worn them. Like, what do you 153 00:06:39,468 --> 00:06:42,468 Speaker 2: do with the info? So the app I'm using does 154 00:06:42,468 --> 00:06:44,507 Speaker 2: have a paid feature which allows you to access all 155 00:06:44,507 --> 00:06:46,947 Speaker 2: of those insights and currently they don't allow you to 156 00:06:46,947 --> 00:06:49,188 Speaker 2: do it by a specific date range, but rather the 157 00:06:49,188 --> 00:06:52,267 Speaker 2: last month, last 3 months, 6 months, yeah, and then 158 00:06:52,267 --> 00:06:54,237 Speaker 2: all time. So you can kind of go back in 159 00:06:54,237 --> 00:06:56,188 Speaker 2: and you can see what you didn't wear a single 160 00:06:56,188 --> 00:06:58,207 Speaker 2: time over that previous month. 161 00:06:58,810 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: Also, you get a visual catalog or diary of what 162 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,851 Speaker 2: you wore every single day for that month. So you 163 00:07:03,851 --> 00:07:07,731 Speaker 2: can see patterns emerging like are you someone who is 164 00:07:07,731 --> 00:07:10,171 Speaker 2: really only wearing a specific kind of pants? Do you 165 00:07:10,171 --> 00:07:12,441 Speaker 2: like to wear dark colors on your lower half or 166 00:07:12,441 --> 00:07:15,231 Speaker 2: on your upper half? Is there specific types of shoes 167 00:07:15,231 --> 00:07:18,131 Speaker 2: that you're pairing with certain types of, I'm blown away, 168 00:07:18,250 --> 00:07:20,411 Speaker 2: you know, I wanna, I desperately want to do this, 169 00:07:20,530 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: but I just like, I just could never, but I, 170 00:07:23,650 --> 00:07:25,291 Speaker 2: it would help so much because I'm thinking if you're 171 00:07:25,291 --> 00:07:26,970 Speaker 2: going shopping, you can go in there and go. 172 00:07:27,295 --> 00:07:29,075 Speaker 2: Oh, no, I mean those black pants are great, but 173 00:07:29,075 --> 00:07:31,635 Speaker 2: actually no, I don't need those, whereas I go, I 174 00:07:31,635 --> 00:07:33,985 Speaker 2: think I've only got one pair of black pants I like, 175 00:07:34,154 --> 00:07:35,955 Speaker 2: and then I get home and I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, 176 00:07:36,515 --> 00:07:38,714 Speaker 2: then I go, hi all you black pants that I 177 00:07:38,714 --> 00:07:40,994 Speaker 2: forgot about. Yeah, I get tunnel vision sometimes as well, 178 00:07:41,154 --> 00:07:43,555 Speaker 2: so it's a great way to ground myself and come 179 00:07:43,555 --> 00:07:44,244 Speaker 2: back to Earth. 180 00:07:44,955 --> 00:07:47,254 Speaker 2: That is phenomenal. OK, we'll do more about that later, 181 00:07:47,355 --> 00:07:50,154 Speaker 2: but from your data and your app and your, the 182 00:07:50,154 --> 00:07:52,754 Speaker 2: way I wish I was, what items are you wearing 183 00:07:52,754 --> 00:07:55,434 Speaker 2: the most? Is there any unexpected? I feel like I 184 00:07:55,434 --> 00:07:59,624 Speaker 2: need to actually refer to do. So, I want this app, 185 00:08:00,124 --> 00:08:02,314 Speaker 2: but I don't know how I would go back and 186 00:08:02,314 --> 00:08:04,925 Speaker 2: do it all. It's well, you can start from now. 187 00:08:05,314 --> 00:08:07,474 Speaker 2: After a wardrobe clean out would be a good time 188 00:08:07,474 --> 00:08:09,994 Speaker 2: to like do this at the end, actually a trick for. 189 00:08:10,105 --> 00:08:11,974 Speaker 2: If you are doing any of these apps, is to 190 00:08:11,974 --> 00:08:14,415 Speaker 2: just log things as you wear them because then it 191 00:08:14,415 --> 00:08:17,494 Speaker 2: feels so much less daunting. And if you haven't worn 192 00:08:17,494 --> 00:08:19,415 Speaker 2: it by default, it's not on the list, so then 193 00:08:19,415 --> 00:08:21,214 Speaker 2: you can do your wardrobe clean up and go, you've 194 00:08:21,214 --> 00:08:24,135 Speaker 2: never been on my list later. Yeah, yeah, that makes 195 00:08:24,135 --> 00:08:26,055 Speaker 2: it so much more approachable doing it. So you've got 196 00:08:26,055 --> 00:08:28,774 Speaker 2: 300 things or more in your wardrobe. The idea of 197 00:08:28,774 --> 00:08:32,855 Speaker 2: putting all of those into an app at once. I 198 00:08:32,855 --> 00:08:35,374 Speaker 2: wear 10%, that's good, you know, you start with that. 199 00:08:35,635 --> 00:08:37,105 Speaker 2: OK, so tell me what do you wear the most. 200 00:08:37,145 --> 00:08:39,385 Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be the exact item, but black 201 00:08:39,385 --> 00:08:42,144 Speaker 2: jeans like you're wearing, or, well, OK, so it's winter 202 00:08:42,144 --> 00:08:44,024 Speaker 2: right now. So a low, some sort of low heel 203 00:08:44,024 --> 00:08:46,264 Speaker 2: boot like the ones I've got on now or my 204 00:08:46,264 --> 00:08:48,305 Speaker 2: current most worn are from Saint Agne, and I think 205 00:08:48,305 --> 00:08:51,144 Speaker 2: I've worn them 25 times since I bought them 2 206 00:08:51,144 --> 00:08:55,745 Speaker 2: months ago, 3 months ago, which is pretty good. Oh 207 00:08:55,745 --> 00:08:57,415 Speaker 2: my gosh, I'd be like, Tick, you're a good person, 208 00:08:57,464 --> 00:08:58,144 Speaker 2: you can go shopping in. 209 00:08:58,297 --> 00:09:01,768 Speaker 2: Get a especially because I've got a good rotation of 210 00:09:01,768 --> 00:09:05,287 Speaker 2: items in my wardrobe, either a small crossbody bag or 211 00:09:05,287 --> 00:09:07,487 Speaker 2: like a larger shoulder bag. I'm kind of all or 212 00:09:07,487 --> 00:09:10,287 Speaker 2: nothing when it comes to that. Um, really slouchy kind 213 00:09:10,287 --> 00:09:13,318 Speaker 2: of knitwear. I splurged to see if it was worth 214 00:09:13,318 --> 00:09:15,698 Speaker 2: it on the Ophelia sweater from the row, and so 215 00:09:15,698 --> 00:09:18,768 Speaker 2: I've made a point of trying to actually get my 216 00:09:18,768 --> 00:09:20,847 Speaker 2: cost per wear out of it because and so far. 217 00:09:20,961 --> 00:09:23,860 Speaker 2: So good. I've worn it 15 times in the last 218 00:09:24,191 --> 00:09:27,060 Speaker 2: few months, which I think is pretty decent. Amazing. And 219 00:09:27,230 --> 00:09:29,711 Speaker 2: next winter, you know, it's the and the winter after 220 00:09:29,711 --> 00:09:32,670 Speaker 2: and forever and ever and ever. Also just like a 221 00:09:32,670 --> 00:09:35,511 Speaker 2: good quality belt. So I've a leather belt that's I've 222 00:09:35,511 --> 00:09:39,341 Speaker 2: worn over 100, probably over 200 times at this point. Um, 223 00:09:39,511 --> 00:09:42,031 Speaker 2: and yeah, dark colored jeans. I really like a washed 224 00:09:42,031 --> 00:09:42,620 Speaker 2: black jean shape. 225 00:09:44,315 --> 00:09:47,355 Speaker 2: I'm not that, I'm not that bothered. No, I'm not 226 00:09:47,355 --> 00:09:51,195 Speaker 2: that bothered. Look, I'm back into almost skinny straight. I 227 00:09:51,195 --> 00:09:53,675 Speaker 2: actually like that silhouette and I think, I think the 228 00:09:53,675 --> 00:09:56,594 Speaker 2: skinny has a bad rap. It's all about styling of proportions, 229 00:09:56,875 --> 00:10:00,355 Speaker 2: but I think the slim, slim straight is really flattering. 230 00:10:00,384 --> 00:10:01,995 Speaker 2: And this is so old. If I were you and 231 00:10:01,995 --> 00:10:03,824 Speaker 2: had this app for all you know, the data from 232 00:10:03,824 --> 00:10:05,784 Speaker 2: so long ago, I could see that I wore them 233 00:10:05,784 --> 00:10:08,795 Speaker 2: last probably 4 years ago, but now they're back. Yeah. Wow, 234 00:10:08,875 --> 00:10:10,274 Speaker 2: that's fascinating. OK, so. 235 00:10:10,894 --> 00:10:12,375 Speaker 2: What do you do when you look in there and 236 00:10:12,375 --> 00:10:15,005 Speaker 2: then there's stuff that you haven't really worn much and 237 00:10:15,005 --> 00:10:17,974 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, OK, I obviously don't reach for those things. 238 00:10:18,014 --> 00:10:20,055 Speaker 2: What do you do then? So I actually use that 239 00:10:20,055 --> 00:10:21,855 Speaker 2: as a prompt to go, I want to wear this, 240 00:10:22,014 --> 00:10:23,295 Speaker 2: I want to make the most of what I have 241 00:10:23,295 --> 00:10:25,945 Speaker 2: in my wardrobe. So to me it's actually a tool 242 00:10:25,945 --> 00:10:28,334 Speaker 2: like a challenge. Yeah, so I go, OK, well I 243 00:10:28,334 --> 00:10:29,974 Speaker 2: haven't been wearing this, I want to bring it into 244 00:10:29,974 --> 00:10:32,974 Speaker 2: rotation and it actually allows me to wear a larger 245 00:10:32,974 --> 00:10:37,175 Speaker 2: percentage of my wardrobe more frequently than I would otherwise. Yeah, 246 00:10:37,334 --> 00:10:38,584 Speaker 2: because if you, well, I don't know about you. 247 00:10:38,644 --> 00:10:40,365 Speaker 2: But for me, if I don't, I can't see it, 248 00:10:40,594 --> 00:10:42,555 Speaker 2: I don't reach for it. Yeah, and also you default 249 00:10:42,555 --> 00:10:44,355 Speaker 2: to the same things all the time, so that's a 250 00:10:44,355 --> 00:10:46,915 Speaker 2: great way to kind of increase that variety and and 251 00:10:46,915 --> 00:10:49,555 Speaker 2: your styling. So what patterns are you picking up or 252 00:10:49,555 --> 00:10:53,555 Speaker 2: how can everybody use this to work out kind of 253 00:10:53,555 --> 00:10:56,995 Speaker 2: colors and more than just the items themselves or the 254 00:10:56,995 --> 00:10:58,185 Speaker 2: outfits you've made but 255 00:10:58,605 --> 00:11:02,834 Speaker 2: I guess working out your personal style, colors, textures, cuts, 256 00:11:02,915 --> 00:11:04,675 Speaker 2: do you use it to look at things like that? 257 00:11:04,875 --> 00:11:07,555 Speaker 2: Probably less so for that. I more like to see 258 00:11:07,555 --> 00:11:10,584 Speaker 2: trends in the specific types of items that I'm reaching 259 00:11:10,584 --> 00:11:13,805 Speaker 2: for and also I suppose the trends in how I'm 260 00:11:13,805 --> 00:11:16,594 Speaker 2: wearing my clothing because I can see even just in 261 00:11:16,594 --> 00:11:18,584 Speaker 2: the evolution of my own style that 262 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: Previously I opted a lot more for like overly feminine pieces, 263 00:11:22,259 --> 00:11:25,820 Speaker 2: a lot more dresses, and in the summertime I would 264 00:11:25,820 --> 00:11:29,180 Speaker 2: really default a lot to denim shorts. But since maybe 265 00:11:29,180 --> 00:11:32,019 Speaker 2: the last year or two, I've started wearing cotton pants 266 00:11:32,019 --> 00:11:34,740 Speaker 2: in the summertime and that's something I can see just 267 00:11:34,740 --> 00:11:37,759 Speaker 2: from looking at my styling in the app. Yeah, right, OK. 268 00:11:37,820 --> 00:11:38,620 Speaker 2: I feel like 269 00:11:39,074 --> 00:11:42,235 Speaker 2: Because I'm quite neutral, I'd say you're quite classically neutral. 270 00:11:42,355 --> 00:11:45,274 Speaker 2: I'm quite neutral, but I do have some color that 271 00:11:45,274 --> 00:11:47,485 Speaker 2: I have, but I don't know how to wear it, 272 00:11:47,514 --> 00:11:49,464 Speaker 2: but if I've logged it all, then I can kind 273 00:11:49,464 --> 00:11:51,334 Speaker 2: of see, actually I do have quite a few green 274 00:11:51,334 --> 00:11:54,115 Speaker 2: things I could do color blocking or I could try 275 00:11:54,115 --> 00:11:56,665 Speaker 2: that green with that lilac, which I would never think here, 276 00:11:56,795 --> 00:11:57,594 Speaker 2: but you can see it. 277 00:11:58,094 --> 00:12:00,985 Speaker 2: In the app. Yeah, because you can also filter by 278 00:12:00,985 --> 00:12:02,524 Speaker 2: color as well so you can kind of get an 279 00:12:02,524 --> 00:12:04,755 Speaker 2: overview of all of the things you have in one 280 00:12:04,755 --> 00:12:08,165 Speaker 2: color palette, but you do have that freedom, that flexibility 281 00:12:08,165 --> 00:12:10,495 Speaker 2: to just build outfits and play around. So if you 282 00:12:10,495 --> 00:12:14,055 Speaker 2: have something you're really struggling to style, having that kind 283 00:12:14,055 --> 00:12:15,425 Speaker 2: of visual representation. 284 00:12:15,894 --> 00:12:18,495 Speaker 2: Can help. I mean, it always translates differently in real life, 285 00:12:18,615 --> 00:12:20,615 Speaker 2: but yeah, but at least try it, especially if you're 286 00:12:20,615 --> 00:12:22,175 Speaker 2: out and about because sometimes I think what am I 287 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:23,995 Speaker 2: gonna wear to that event tonight? I've got to rush 288 00:12:23,995 --> 00:12:25,784 Speaker 2: home and get ready, but I can't see my wardrobe, 289 00:12:25,824 --> 00:12:28,735 Speaker 2: but if it's on my phone, you are a genius, OK. 290 00:12:29,084 --> 00:12:31,704 Speaker 2: I'm a massive Pinterest fan. I don't know about you, 291 00:12:31,745 --> 00:12:34,375 Speaker 2: but do you use Pinterest to inspire you, or are 292 00:12:34,375 --> 00:12:38,144 Speaker 2: there other websites, platforms, blogs that you look at for 293 00:12:38,144 --> 00:12:40,464 Speaker 2: inspiration and then kind of refer to your data to 294 00:12:40,464 --> 00:12:42,865 Speaker 2: see if you've got similar items or do you do 295 00:12:42,865 --> 00:12:45,224 Speaker 2: any other sort of research that way? So, I don't 296 00:12:45,224 --> 00:12:47,784 Speaker 2: know about you, but I actually find Pinterest now is 80% ads. 297 00:12:47,935 --> 00:12:50,974 Speaker 2: It is not very user friendly anymore. I kind of 298 00:12:50,974 --> 00:12:52,824 Speaker 2: browse through and I go, OK, where, where is what 299 00:12:52,824 --> 00:12:55,185 Speaker 2: I'm actually looking for? A lot of ads. Yeah, so 300 00:12:55,185 --> 00:12:56,824 Speaker 2: I don't use it as a tool as much. 301 00:12:56,915 --> 00:13:00,175 Speaker 2: I used to in the past. I think these days 302 00:13:00,175 --> 00:13:03,305 Speaker 2: instead I'm more so inspired by silhouettes or even just 303 00:13:03,305 --> 00:13:06,665 Speaker 2: e-commerce styling. So, oh wow, like on websites you'll have 304 00:13:06,665 --> 00:13:08,945 Speaker 2: a look at, yeah, OK, you can get some great 305 00:13:08,945 --> 00:13:11,464 Speaker 2: ideas and not only that, just what you see in 306 00:13:11,464 --> 00:13:14,704 Speaker 2: Fashion Week, so those kind of trends trickling through. There 307 00:13:14,704 --> 00:13:17,625 Speaker 2: are easy ways that you can co-opt those trends into 308 00:13:17,625 --> 00:13:20,625 Speaker 2: your own styling that maybe don't require any shopping. So 309 00:13:20,625 --> 00:13:23,464 Speaker 2: you see some street style, you know, Copenhagen Fashion Week 310 00:13:23,464 --> 00:13:24,625 Speaker 2: was a few weeks ago now. 311 00:13:24,904 --> 00:13:26,935 Speaker 2: You see some stuff on Instagram. Do you then use 312 00:13:26,935 --> 00:13:30,454 Speaker 2: that info to go back into your data and think, oh, 313 00:13:30,534 --> 00:13:32,175 Speaker 2: I would have never thought to mix a skirt like 314 00:13:32,175 --> 00:13:34,695 Speaker 2: that with a blazer like that. And I've got similar. Yeah, 315 00:13:34,875 --> 00:13:37,084 Speaker 2: that's definitely a great way you can use it and, um, 316 00:13:37,094 --> 00:13:40,415 Speaker 2: Index in particular do this thing called social styling, so 317 00:13:40,415 --> 00:13:43,574 Speaker 2: you can let other people into your wardrobe and style you. 318 00:13:43,654 --> 00:13:46,824 Speaker 2: So I have an open wardrobes so fun. It's like 319 00:13:46,824 --> 00:13:47,735 Speaker 2: playing dress-ups, but. 320 00:13:47,954 --> 00:13:51,704 Speaker 2: It's really cool. And so I've had some really great 321 00:13:51,704 --> 00:13:55,264 Speaker 2: fantastic outfit ideas and suggestions come through just through the 322 00:13:55,264 --> 00:13:58,065 Speaker 2: social styling component, and they're ones that I never would 323 00:13:58,065 --> 00:14:00,384 Speaker 2: have thought of like, um, I got a great way 324 00:14:00,384 --> 00:14:01,985 Speaker 2: to do that for someone else though. I can't even 325 00:14:01,985 --> 00:14:04,464 Speaker 2: get myself dressed, but I, you know, it's so creative 326 00:14:04,464 --> 00:14:06,904 Speaker 2: and that's cool. It is. It's a book club for fashion. 327 00:14:07,024 --> 00:14:10,495 Speaker 2: It's like Polyboard. Do you remember that from way back when? Yeah. Um, 328 00:14:10,545 --> 00:14:10,954 Speaker 2: and so I got 329 00:14:11,005 --> 00:14:13,315 Speaker 2: This great outfit idea. It was like um these shorts 330 00:14:13,315 --> 00:14:15,204 Speaker 2: that I have with a knee-high boot and I would 331 00:14:15,204 --> 00:14:17,714 Speaker 2: never ever pair those two things together with a fitted 332 00:14:17,714 --> 00:14:21,995 Speaker 2: long sleeve and then this oversized sleeveless blazer, which and 333 00:14:21,995 --> 00:14:24,024 Speaker 2: someone went in and said, you should try this. Yeah, 334 00:14:24,235 --> 00:14:25,915 Speaker 2: that is so cool. I tried it on and I 335 00:14:25,915 --> 00:14:28,034 Speaker 2: was just, I was obsessed. I thought this is genius. 336 00:14:28,074 --> 00:14:30,634 Speaker 2: It's also like video games for grownups because you know 337 00:14:30,634 --> 00:14:33,074 Speaker 2: how kids or you know people game each other. That's 338 00:14:33,074 --> 00:14:33,805 Speaker 2: so awesome. 339 00:14:42,105 --> 00:14:44,105 Speaker 2: Tell me when it's sale time, because this is where 340 00:14:44,105 --> 00:14:46,144 Speaker 2: all my logic goes out the window. You seem a 341 00:14:46,144 --> 00:14:49,264 Speaker 2: bit more measured than me, but, you know, there's sales 342 00:14:49,264 --> 00:14:51,545 Speaker 2: on and it's then an extra 25% off and I go, 343 00:14:51,584 --> 00:14:53,464 Speaker 2: Oh my God, and I jump on and buy things. 344 00:14:53,625 --> 00:14:58,805 Speaker 2: How do you approach data and emotions, particularly when, you know, 345 00:14:58,904 --> 00:15:01,224 Speaker 2: it's could be a really good price? How do you 346 00:15:01,224 --> 00:15:03,505 Speaker 2: marry the two? So I have something called the 30 347 00:15:03,505 --> 00:15:05,704 Speaker 2: day shopping rule, and I will say that, yes, there 348 00:15:05,704 --> 00:15:06,065 Speaker 2: are always 349 00:15:06,110 --> 00:15:08,540 Speaker 2: Gonna be exceptions. Sometimes you see something, you have this 350 00:15:08,540 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: emotional urge to add it to your wardrobe, and if 351 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:12,940 Speaker 2: you have the money to do so, you know, and 352 00:15:12,940 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: it's the timing's right, but I usually try and wait 353 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,930 Speaker 2: at least 30 days and to think about an item. Yeah, 354 00:15:20,019 --> 00:15:21,500 Speaker 2: but the sale's only for 3 days. What are you 355 00:15:21,500 --> 00:15:23,750 Speaker 2: gonna do? Just wait for the next 10, you're. 356 00:15:25,065 --> 00:15:27,654 Speaker 2: I, I'm of the belief that there's always another sale, 357 00:15:27,665 --> 00:15:30,334 Speaker 2: and there's so true. And honestly, the marketing works and 358 00:15:30,334 --> 00:15:32,714 Speaker 2: that's why I get frantic, you know, it was click 359 00:15:32,714 --> 00:15:34,974 Speaker 2: frenzy a little while ago and I ignored all of it. 360 00:15:35,094 --> 00:15:36,495 Speaker 2: But then I sat down at my laptop on the 361 00:15:36,495 --> 00:15:38,214 Speaker 2: Monday and that's when all you think it's over and 362 00:15:38,214 --> 00:15:40,175 Speaker 2: all the brands go, extra discount. And that's when I 363 00:15:40,175 --> 00:15:42,214 Speaker 2: was like, Oh, what am I missing? But you're so right, 364 00:15:42,295 --> 00:15:45,774 Speaker 2: there's another sale. Well, there isn't, have you ever used Carted? Yes, 365 00:15:45,855 --> 00:15:47,935 Speaker 2: I've only just got carted. You need to give us 366 00:15:47,935 --> 00:15:48,995 Speaker 2: a list of all the good apps. 367 00:15:49,690 --> 00:15:51,790 Speaker 2: Explain Carter for people that don't know. It's a wish 368 00:15:51,790 --> 00:15:54,149 Speaker 2: listing app, so you add the things that you're thinking 369 00:15:54,149 --> 00:15:56,550 Speaker 2: about buying to it and then it tracks when it 370 00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: goes on sale. So you get an alert if it 371 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,110 Speaker 2: goes on sale, you get an alert if the item restocks. 372 00:16:01,190 --> 00:16:03,409 Speaker 2: Just say the items available at multiple retailers you can 373 00:16:03,409 --> 00:16:05,149 Speaker 2: link all the retailers and it will tell you if 374 00:16:05,149 --> 00:16:07,709 Speaker 2: one's offering it a better price, but I don't look 375 00:16:07,709 --> 00:16:09,310 Speaker 2: at things before I realize I want to buy them. 376 00:16:09,349 --> 00:16:11,790 Speaker 2: I just go, oh, EDM, oh, sale. But you know, 377 00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:14,430 Speaker 2: that's so clever and then you can watch it. 378 00:16:14,985 --> 00:16:16,925 Speaker 2: And maybe you, they get an alert and it's like, oh, 379 00:16:16,974 --> 00:16:18,644 Speaker 2: it's restocked but it's on sale and you go, actually, 380 00:16:18,774 --> 00:16:21,055 Speaker 2: I don't really want it anymore. Yeah, and you find 381 00:16:21,055 --> 00:16:24,034 Speaker 2: that waiting, waiting at least, you know, a week even 382 00:16:24,034 --> 00:16:25,855 Speaker 2: that many of the items that you thought you wanted 383 00:16:25,855 --> 00:16:28,334 Speaker 2: to buy have slowly been filtered out. They've been forgotten, 384 00:16:28,415 --> 00:16:31,315 Speaker 2: you know, they've been lost to time. Because it was 385 00:16:31,315 --> 00:16:32,045 Speaker 2: an emotional purchase. 386 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,490 Speaker 2: Or an impulse purchase rather than a strategic one. Yeah, 387 00:16:35,969 --> 00:16:40,290 Speaker 2: you need to do courses. So say we're all a 388 00:16:40,290 --> 00:16:43,009 Speaker 2: data person now or we've started to do this. It 389 00:16:43,009 --> 00:16:45,810 Speaker 2: helps with our existing wardrobe, but then how do we 390 00:16:45,810 --> 00:16:49,409 Speaker 2: use that info going forward about purchasing? 391 00:16:49,945 --> 00:16:52,045 Speaker 2: So I think you can see trends in terms of 392 00:16:52,045 --> 00:16:55,644 Speaker 2: what colors you're actually reaching for, so identifying the ones 393 00:16:55,644 --> 00:16:58,355 Speaker 2: that are kind of your core colors because we have, 394 00:16:58,485 --> 00:17:01,435 Speaker 2: you can do seasonal color analysis, but I think we gravitate. 395 00:17:02,125 --> 00:17:04,565 Speaker 2: I hated mine to stick with it and then I 396 00:17:04,565 --> 00:17:06,724 Speaker 2: go to the shops I'm like, but I like that yellow, 397 00:17:06,844 --> 00:17:08,844 Speaker 2: and I'm not allowed to wear that green, but yes, 398 00:17:09,084 --> 00:17:10,284 Speaker 2: so you can do that, but. 399 00:17:10,378 --> 00:17:13,357 Speaker 2: I think we gravitate towards the colors that we really 400 00:17:13,368 --> 00:17:15,408 Speaker 2: enjoy and that make us feel good and that's kind 401 00:17:15,408 --> 00:17:17,477 Speaker 2: of what you want to feel in your clothes. So 402 00:17:17,477 --> 00:17:19,248 Speaker 2: that can be a useful tool, but you end up 403 00:17:19,248 --> 00:17:20,888 Speaker 2: wearing the colors that you like the most. That can 404 00:17:20,888 --> 00:17:23,288 Speaker 2: be one kind of thing. It can help you identify 405 00:17:23,288 --> 00:17:25,648 Speaker 2: what you aren't wearing, so knowing I'm not gonna buy 406 00:17:25,648 --> 00:17:27,967 Speaker 2: that in the future. So there's a saying like love 407 00:17:27,967 --> 00:17:30,768 Speaker 2: to buy, hate to wear. So maybe you keep buying. 408 00:17:30,861 --> 00:17:33,091 Speaker 2: Like button up shirts that you're wearing today, but you 409 00:17:33,091 --> 00:17:35,770 Speaker 2: never wear them. OK, so you love them. You only 410 00:17:35,770 --> 00:17:37,890 Speaker 2: need a certain amount. Well, that's true, but if you're 411 00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:40,571 Speaker 2: never wearing them, it's wasted space in your wardrobe and 412 00:17:40,571 --> 00:17:43,130 Speaker 2: also your time and your budget. So that can be 413 00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:46,611 Speaker 2: a great way to kind of filter out those bad purchases. Well, 414 00:17:46,691 --> 00:17:48,491 Speaker 2: for me, I mean, similar to that because I've spoken 415 00:17:48,491 --> 00:17:50,900 Speaker 2: a lot on the podcast how much I love hombre shirts, 416 00:17:50,971 --> 00:17:54,810 Speaker 2: but I definitely don't need another one. And so if 417 00:17:54,810 --> 00:17:57,451 Speaker 2: I'm in store or at my laptop, I can go. 418 00:17:57,904 --> 00:18:01,514 Speaker 2: No, Lee, you've got enough, or you know if you, 419 00:18:01,565 --> 00:18:04,354 Speaker 2: you know, resell those ones you're allowed, whereas I forget, 420 00:18:04,644 --> 00:18:07,284 Speaker 2: so it's either seeing what you don't wear and not 421 00:18:07,284 --> 00:18:08,994 Speaker 2: buying any more of that or realizing you have too 422 00:18:08,994 --> 00:18:11,915 Speaker 2: many of something and you don't need another one. Yeah, yeah, 423 00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:13,965 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, can I pay you to like start? 424 00:18:15,165 --> 00:18:16,835 Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll be able to answer this, 425 00:18:16,845 --> 00:18:20,195 Speaker 2: but through, you know, a data lens which you've been 426 00:18:20,195 --> 00:18:22,165 Speaker 2: doing for a really long time, do you reckon there's 427 00:18:22,165 --> 00:18:26,764 Speaker 2: a kind of general optimal number of items in our wardrobe. 428 00:18:27,045 --> 00:18:29,475 Speaker 2: That kind of on average every person would have, or 429 00:18:29,475 --> 00:18:32,394 Speaker 2: is that just too hard. So I feel like the 430 00:18:32,394 --> 00:18:36,575 Speaker 2: perfect size wardrobe doesn't exist because everyone has a different lifestyle, 431 00:18:36,754 --> 00:18:39,984 Speaker 2: they're doing different activities but also live in different climates, 432 00:18:40,205 --> 00:18:43,104 Speaker 2: and that's really gonna dictate the needs of your wardrobe. Um, 433 00:18:43,234 --> 00:18:46,305 Speaker 2: I've kind of looked into hundreds of people's wardrobes and 434 00:18:46,435 --> 00:18:49,675 Speaker 2: it's interesting, you see a really big difference in the numbers. 435 00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:50,685 Speaker 2: Some people might have. 436 00:18:50,764 --> 00:18:55,815 Speaker 2: 50 items whereas others have over 450. And while maybe 437 00:18:55,815 --> 00:18:58,815 Speaker 2: the ones with over 450 in their wardrobe aren't wearing 438 00:18:58,815 --> 00:19:01,494 Speaker 2: every single thing all the time, perhaps they're things that 439 00:19:01,494 --> 00:19:05,055 Speaker 2: give them joy if they've got sentimental value. But ultimately 440 00:19:05,055 --> 00:19:06,935 Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we typically need less 441 00:19:06,935 --> 00:19:09,455 Speaker 2: than we think. Absolutely. Yeah. You can do a lot 442 00:19:09,455 --> 00:19:11,854 Speaker 2: with a little and yeah. I mean 10 items you 443 00:19:11,854 --> 00:19:14,335 Speaker 2: can easily turn that into, you know, 40. 444 00:19:14,475 --> 00:19:17,394 Speaker 2: Plus outfits with interesting use that kind of data to 445 00:19:17,394 --> 00:19:19,195 Speaker 2: like I guess it would be so good for packing 446 00:19:19,195 --> 00:19:22,675 Speaker 2: because then you can work out combinations. 100% and you 447 00:19:22,675 --> 00:19:25,634 Speaker 2: can also see how you've styled items in the past. 448 00:19:25,835 --> 00:19:29,075 Speaker 2: You kind of got a library and index of outfits 449 00:19:29,075 --> 00:19:31,475 Speaker 2: to kind of go back to. I'm most inspired to 450 00:19:31,475 --> 00:19:34,024 Speaker 2: do this just for packing because I'm always paying overweight 451 00:19:34,024 --> 00:19:36,955 Speaker 2: because I'm like maybe I'll wear that ball gown. Maybe 452 00:19:36,955 --> 00:19:39,514 Speaker 2: I want to be that person. No, yeah, you need 453 00:19:39,514 --> 00:19:41,864 Speaker 2: it for that. And like you said, people might live 454 00:19:41,864 --> 00:19:43,795 Speaker 2: somewhere where it snows in winter but it's really hot. 455 00:19:44,154 --> 00:19:46,205 Speaker 2: You know, whereas if you're from Townsville, you probably don't 456 00:19:46,205 --> 00:19:49,404 Speaker 2: need 15 coats. Yeah, love it. Talk to me about 457 00:19:49,404 --> 00:19:52,825 Speaker 2: your YouTube series, it's called Influences Made me Buy It. 458 00:19:53,234 --> 00:19:55,884 Speaker 2: And what is this all about? OK, so I think 459 00:19:55,884 --> 00:19:58,315 Speaker 2: we've all had that purchase or maybe more than one, 460 00:19:58,445 --> 00:20:00,884 Speaker 2: which we have been influenced to buy because we've seen 461 00:20:00,884 --> 00:20:04,675 Speaker 2: someone talk about it and they've made it look so appealing, like, 462 00:20:04,965 --> 00:20:07,524 Speaker 2: you know, it's on the silver platter and it just 463 00:20:07,524 --> 00:20:08,585 Speaker 2: looks so shiny and 464 00:20:08,634 --> 00:20:10,345 Speaker 2: We want to add it to our wardrobes because we 465 00:20:10,345 --> 00:20:12,585 Speaker 2: think if we buy that it's going to, I don't 466 00:20:12,585 --> 00:20:14,744 Speaker 2: know be life changer. You think it's gonna solve all 467 00:20:14,744 --> 00:20:17,904 Speaker 2: your problems. Yeah, absolutely. And so do you buy these 468 00:20:17,904 --> 00:20:20,384 Speaker 2: items or review these items or these are things I've 469 00:20:20,384 --> 00:20:23,345 Speaker 2: naturally just added into my wardrobe and so it kind 470 00:20:23,345 --> 00:20:26,264 Speaker 2: of just was birth from me reflecting on the things 471 00:20:26,264 --> 00:20:28,065 Speaker 2: that I've bought, what have been good purchases and what 472 00:20:28,065 --> 00:20:28,504 Speaker 2: have been bad. 473 00:20:29,034 --> 00:20:30,675 Speaker 2: Because I, I look back at the end of every 474 00:20:30,675 --> 00:20:32,514 Speaker 2: year and I go, what were my best purchases that 475 00:20:32,514 --> 00:20:35,144 Speaker 2: I made? What were the worst ones? I like that. 476 00:20:35,154 --> 00:20:37,274 Speaker 2: I obviously follow you and love your content. I love 477 00:20:37,274 --> 00:20:39,234 Speaker 2: when you do, I regret these or I don't wear 478 00:20:39,234 --> 00:20:41,595 Speaker 2: these because I find that, not that it's more helpful, 479 00:20:41,634 --> 00:20:45,384 Speaker 2: but people mostly post about things they love, whereas, you know, seeing, OK, 480 00:20:45,514 --> 00:20:47,874 Speaker 2: that didn't work, it's like, oh, OK, firstly I'm human too, 481 00:20:47,955 --> 00:20:48,685 Speaker 2: and secondly, 482 00:20:49,284 --> 00:20:51,835 Speaker 2: That's a good PSA for me. I just think more, 483 00:20:51,994 --> 00:20:53,955 Speaker 2: you know, not that we're trying to be negative about brands, 484 00:20:54,034 --> 00:20:55,945 Speaker 2: it's more so that it just didn't work for you, 485 00:20:56,634 --> 00:20:58,274 Speaker 2: and I think that there needs to be more of that. 486 00:20:58,354 --> 00:21:00,435 Speaker 2: So I really like that because we're all human. Have 487 00:21:00,435 --> 00:21:02,114 Speaker 2: you got things in your wardrobe with tags on? 488 00:21:02,774 --> 00:21:06,465 Speaker 2: Um, I'm sure I do. I love that. I try 489 00:21:06,465 --> 00:21:09,445 Speaker 2: to wear stuff the week I buy it, but I'm 490 00:21:09,445 --> 00:21:12,404 Speaker 2: so excited. But no, sometimes when you're doing that clean 491 00:21:12,404 --> 00:21:14,634 Speaker 2: out and you're like, you know, we're gonna regret it, 492 00:21:14,764 --> 00:21:16,955 Speaker 2: but I think everyone does that and you can learn 493 00:21:16,955 --> 00:21:18,994 Speaker 2: from it if you clock the data. Yeah. 494 00:21:28,575 --> 00:21:33,955 Speaker 2: It's very expensive. Damn, honey. How much are these? 25%. 495 00:21:35,254 --> 00:21:38,545 Speaker 2: OK, bougie and budget. So, you might actually have data 496 00:21:38,545 --> 00:21:41,024 Speaker 2: on yours. I absolutely do not. But it's something that 497 00:21:41,024 --> 00:21:43,185 Speaker 2: we might be considering and think we'll get a lot 498 00:21:43,185 --> 00:21:45,904 Speaker 2: of wear out of or new season items or stuff 499 00:21:45,904 --> 00:21:49,345 Speaker 2: that you've just worn to death, hence your data. Do 500 00:21:49,345 --> 00:21:51,095 Speaker 2: you want to start with your bougie or your budget? 501 00:21:51,264 --> 00:21:54,185 Speaker 2: My budget. OK, let's do your budget. OK, so I'm 502 00:21:54,185 --> 00:21:55,835 Speaker 2: wearing them right now. They're a pair of 503 00:21:55,918 --> 00:21:59,768 Speaker 2: Jeans from H&M and they are the best jeans. One, 504 00:21:59,878 --> 00:22:02,597 Speaker 2: the quality is exceptional for the price. I think they're 505 00:22:02,597 --> 00:22:06,067 Speaker 2: $50 but often on sale for $40. Wow. Yeah, I 506 00:22:06,067 --> 00:22:08,947 Speaker 2: was there like, I thought they were really fancy from here. 507 00:22:09,038 --> 00:22:11,197 Speaker 2: The denim looks quite thick, it's a beautiful black, like 508 00:22:11,197 --> 00:22:13,477 Speaker 2: it's not solid solid, but it's not too washed. They're 509 00:22:13,477 --> 00:22:15,278 Speaker 2: so good. Um, they remind me a lot of a 510 00:22:15,278 --> 00:22:16,518 Speaker 2: pair of jeans I've got from New Zealand. 511 00:22:16,660 --> 00:22:21,081 Speaker 2: Brand I love called Mal. I love Mal too, yeah, yeah, H&M. 512 00:22:21,530 --> 00:22:23,571 Speaker 2: I have some H&M denim. Yeah, I'm gonna go get 513 00:22:23,571 --> 00:22:25,961 Speaker 2: the black ones. So super underrated and I have another 514 00:22:25,961 --> 00:22:28,211 Speaker 2: pair of jeans from H&M which are great too. So 515 00:22:28,211 --> 00:22:31,601 Speaker 2: I've got the black, like white wide barrel, of course. Yeah. 516 00:22:31,851 --> 00:22:35,191 Speaker 2: That's probably my fanciest black barrel ones because I don't 517 00:22:35,191 --> 00:22:38,331 Speaker 2: want to do the really expensive version. OK, so my 518 00:22:38,331 --> 00:22:41,241 Speaker 2: budget is, I reflected on my wardrobe, don't have data, 519 00:22:41,331 --> 00:22:43,231 Speaker 2: but I love a white tea. I live in a 520 00:22:43,231 --> 00:22:43,821 Speaker 2: white tea. 521 00:22:44,234 --> 00:22:46,295 Speaker 2: I have so many, but I actually wear a lot 522 00:22:46,295 --> 00:22:48,845 Speaker 2: of them, most of them, and I think it's mostly 523 00:22:48,845 --> 00:22:50,274 Speaker 2: because I'm messy and can soak them and they come 524 00:22:50,274 --> 00:22:52,374 Speaker 2: out quite good. But a lot of the Uniqlo ones, 525 00:22:52,415 --> 00:22:54,975 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna recommend that again because listeners will be 526 00:22:54,975 --> 00:22:57,734 Speaker 2: over it, but, but they are good and they're the best, 527 00:22:57,894 --> 00:23:01,254 Speaker 2: they are the best. I know the one with the 528 00:23:01,254 --> 00:23:04,945 Speaker 2: thick crew neck. However, the other day I wore a 529 00:23:04,945 --> 00:23:07,215 Speaker 2: brown t-shirt and I remembered how much I loved it 530 00:23:07,215 --> 00:23:08,734 Speaker 2: and the brand does a white, so I'm gonna get 531 00:23:08,734 --> 00:23:09,335 Speaker 2: the white. 532 00:23:10,104 --> 00:23:12,024 Speaker 2: It's called Cream. I don't know if you know this brand. 533 00:23:12,104 --> 00:23:16,364 Speaker 2: They're two Aussie girls, Sydney-based, C R E M M E. Unisex, 534 00:23:16,425 --> 00:23:20,455 Speaker 2: very similar to the Uniqlo, a beautiful thick cotton, but not, 535 00:23:20,575 --> 00:23:23,104 Speaker 2: not stiff. It just feels really good quality. I think 536 00:23:23,104 --> 00:23:26,585 Speaker 2: they're about $69 and the brown one I, I love, 537 00:23:26,665 --> 00:23:29,065 Speaker 2: and they're unisex, but there's two versions of the cuts. 538 00:23:29,104 --> 00:23:32,264 Speaker 2: They're very slightly different but still sort of oversized. 539 00:23:32,659 --> 00:23:35,019 Speaker 2: classic. I do a little cuff on the sleeve, which 540 00:23:35,019 --> 00:23:38,220 Speaker 2: adds interest. I just, the brown one I've trashed, and 541 00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:41,139 Speaker 2: also you can't bleach brown. So it's obviously good quality, 542 00:23:41,180 --> 00:23:42,899 Speaker 2: so I'm going to get the white one, because I 543 00:23:42,899 --> 00:23:44,180 Speaker 2: just live in white tees. I've got a lot of 544 00:23:44,180 --> 00:23:46,889 Speaker 2: sun damage. I often hide this and I just feel 545 00:23:46,889 --> 00:23:49,019 Speaker 2: like it's my more elevated version of a singlet. 546 00:23:49,264 --> 00:23:52,614 Speaker 2: Yeah, bougie, please. OK, so mine are a pair of 547 00:23:52,614 --> 00:23:56,175 Speaker 2: heels from 80. Um, I, 80 is hands down, one 548 00:23:56,175 --> 00:23:58,215 Speaker 2: of my favorite shoe brands because they're kind of in 549 00:23:58,215 --> 00:24:01,215 Speaker 2: that mid-tier price point so not quite luxury but not 550 00:24:01,215 --> 00:24:03,965 Speaker 2: high street. The quality of the shoes is excellent and 551 00:24:04,055 --> 00:24:07,335 Speaker 2: they suit wide feet. I don't do uncomfortable shoes and 552 00:24:07,335 --> 00:24:09,295 Speaker 2: I like the fact that they accommodate my feet. I 553 00:24:09,295 --> 00:24:11,585 Speaker 2: can stand in them all day. OK, but what's the 554 00:24:12,024 --> 00:24:14,744 Speaker 2: They're pointed toe pump from 80. I actually already have 555 00:24:14,744 --> 00:24:16,545 Speaker 2: them in the black and so I ordered the chocolate 556 00:24:16,545 --> 00:24:18,715 Speaker 2: suede and they come in a tan too, which is 557 00:24:18,715 --> 00:24:21,665 Speaker 2: a little like a low heel, yeah, so it kind 558 00:24:21,665 --> 00:24:23,864 Speaker 2: of gives you that lift, it adds a sharpness to 559 00:24:23,864 --> 00:24:26,774 Speaker 2: an outfit, very chic. I've never bought anything from the brand, 560 00:24:26,784 --> 00:24:29,114 Speaker 2: but I have hearted a lot of things on Depop, 561 00:24:29,185 --> 00:24:32,104 Speaker 2: so maybe I'll go buy some. I think we're similar sizes. 562 00:24:32,144 --> 00:24:33,864 Speaker 2: So if you sell me, let me know. 563 00:24:34,404 --> 00:24:36,805 Speaker 2: My bougie is here with me because since I got her, 564 00:24:37,004 --> 00:24:40,075 Speaker 2: I have not stopped using her. Veri, the Aussie brand, 565 00:24:40,284 --> 00:24:42,685 Speaker 2: does handbags. I've got so many of their handbags. This 566 00:24:42,685 --> 00:24:48,004 Speaker 2: is the Eden leather shoulder bag, $329. I had an 567 00:24:48,004 --> 00:24:50,764 Speaker 2: extremely old Oriin bag that fully zipped shut that was 568 00:24:50,764 --> 00:24:51,524 Speaker 2: just dead. 569 00:24:52,045 --> 00:24:55,325 Speaker 2: And I've been looking for one this size, medium, for 570 00:24:55,325 --> 00:24:58,795 Speaker 2: so long, and it's phenomenal. Then there's two sections inside, 571 00:24:59,244 --> 00:25:02,764 Speaker 2: great size because then I have a separate laptop bag 572 00:25:02,764 --> 00:25:05,524 Speaker 2: if I'm kind of coming to work or whatever, but 573 00:25:05,524 --> 00:25:07,205 Speaker 2: just every day I still need, I don't know why 574 00:25:07,205 --> 00:25:08,364 Speaker 2: I have so many things. I just have a lot 575 00:25:08,364 --> 00:25:10,764 Speaker 2: of things. And so that's the perfect size. It's super 576 00:25:10,764 --> 00:25:13,274 Speaker 2: comfy and it comes in a suede too. There's a, 577 00:25:13,484 --> 00:25:16,404 Speaker 2: a bunch of colors, and I'm normally quite a frequent 578 00:25:16,404 --> 00:25:17,604 Speaker 2: bag changer. 579 00:25:18,095 --> 00:25:21,104 Speaker 2: But I honestly have used this like it's in my 10%. 580 00:25:21,144 --> 00:25:23,384 Speaker 2: I would use it 5 days a week. It's really 581 00:25:23,384 --> 00:25:26,915 Speaker 2: classic and the leather of their bags is $329. That 582 00:25:26,915 --> 00:25:28,565 Speaker 2: is a lot of money for a handbag, but I 583 00:25:28,565 --> 00:25:30,784 Speaker 2: would say the quality is better or on par than 584 00:25:30,784 --> 00:25:34,225 Speaker 2: some bags that I've got that were $600 or over $1000. 585 00:25:34,335 --> 00:25:36,205 Speaker 2: Love it. So I didn't even mean to bring her 586 00:25:36,205 --> 00:25:38,604 Speaker 2: for show and tell, but she's always with me. Thank 587 00:25:38,604 --> 00:25:41,305 Speaker 2: you so much. I'm so inspired and overwhelmed. I don't 588 00:25:41,305 --> 00:25:42,984 Speaker 2: know how to use Excel, but this sounds a little 589 00:25:42,984 --> 00:25:45,825 Speaker 2: bit more fun and friendly, so I'm gonna start doing 590 00:25:45,825 --> 00:25:48,034 Speaker 2: this and I'll report back. Yes, you need to download 591 00:25:48,034 --> 00:25:50,504 Speaker 2: the app. Thanks Jamie. Thank you for having me. 592 00:25:52,504 --> 00:25:54,935 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me for Nothing to wear, 593 00:25:54,945 --> 00:25:57,254 Speaker 2: and don't forget, if you want more fashion from us, 594 00:25:57,345 --> 00:26:00,744 Speaker 2: we're on YouTube and on Instagram, we're called Nothing to 595 00:26:00,744 --> 00:26:02,225 Speaker 2: wear Pod. See you next week.