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Speaker 3: Mamma mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 3: that this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 3: to the Spill, your daily pop culture fix. I am

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Speaker 3: hijacking the feed today. My name's Taylor Strato. I am

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Speaker 3: the host of Mamma MIA's the Quickie News podcast, and

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Speaker 3: I'm joined by the always incredible kissen youa lu Kich. Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hello, thanks for joining us on this spill today. What

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Speaker 1: a fun one today, What a fun one indeed.

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Speaker 3: So the reason that I have busted my way in

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Speaker 3: again this week on the Spill is I am still

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Speaker 3: very much living in this post Watch Party world. Now, Kissena,

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Speaker 3: when I say watch Party, you know what that means.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about the Spills brand new expansion podcast. I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you've already listened and you've rated five stars. I have.

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Speaker 1: I have already listened and already texted everyone being like.

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Speaker 2: From the thought.

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Speaker 1: So it's definitely worth a listen if you haven't listened

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Speaker 3: Thank you, dous. Kissenya says, go and listen to Watch

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Speaker 3: Party after this. But what we did over there is

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Speaker 3: actually dive deep into a brand new film called The

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Speaker 3: Thursday Murder Club. The reason that I'm bringing that up

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Speaker 3: today on the Spill is because we are all about

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Speaker 3: book to film adaptations. It's something that I've been thinking

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Speaker 3: many of my favorite films and TV shows that actually

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Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't surprise me because that's you know,

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Speaker 1: the best writers, and that's where you get so much

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Speaker 1: great source material from. Now, we are going to have

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Speaker 3: Okay, I love a rule. I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 2: So the rule is it has to be loved by

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Speaker 1: So it's got to like really take the core of

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Speaker 1: Kind of thinking like Harry Potter does not do that

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's really good groundwork to lay down

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Speaker 3: And of course it wouldn't be fun if we weren't

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Speaker 3: What is your first in this list of book to

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Speaker 1: and that is Big Little Lies.

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Speaker 2: Every time someone asks me about SIGs that I'm terrified

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Speaker 1: Big Little Lies was written by Australian Leanne Moriarty, who

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Speaker 1: My stomping ground. They moved it to the state. So

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Speaker 1: I just was so obsessed with this series, like I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fair now can I tell you my controversial take

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Speaker 3: most television shows, particularly of this limited series. Nature should

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Speaker 1: And I think the series could have done that a

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Speaker 1: But you know what it's like when people are fans

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand that you don't want to bite the

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Speaker 1: Again, if you haven't read Land's work. She's got a

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Speaker 1: number of other ones. Nine Perfect Strangers also turned into

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Speaker 2: What Alice Forgot?

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Speaker 1: so that was my first one, Taylor, Can you give

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Speaker 3: Okay, I submit to you what I like to call

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Speaker 3: That is exactly what a super rich person would say.

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Speaker 3: This is Rachel true. She just thinks you're some like

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Speaker 2: Raise a family for me, it's a privilege for you.

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Speaker 3: You may think it's old fashioned. If you want next

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Speaker 3: to be happy, I know you're not what Nick needed.

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Speaker 2: Were you gonna roll up and be like Mark mack bitch?

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Speaker 3: Okay? Maybe like that is aggressive. I met a girl,

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Speaker 3: You're Nicholas Young.

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Speaker 3: If you prepped Rachel to face the wolves, you know,

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Speaker 2: And now the breath. I know this much. You will

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Speaker 3: Be Casenya. I'm assuming you've seen this film.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to read the book now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this book is so dear to me. I've read

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Speaker 2: Have you read this book?

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm gonna get canceled for saying this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So this book was released in twenty eighteen basically

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Speaker 1: So I don't want to spoil the ending for you,

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Speaker 2: Today it's the first day of my life as the

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Speaker 3: I love that great. You've given me some like heartbreaking

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Speaker 3: mum and I shot eyes across the room at each

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00:21:07,104 --> 00:21:10,024
Speaker 3: other and was like, holy shit, did we script this ourselves?

436
00:21:10,064 --> 00:21:12,384
Speaker 3: Because the argument that we had yesterday.

437
00:21:12,224 --> 00:21:14,744
Speaker 1: I love taking me straight back to me and girls,

438
00:21:15,104 --> 00:21:18,544
Speaker 1: can I ask the snogging bit? Are they like practicing

439
00:21:18,584 --> 00:21:22,344
Speaker 1: on their arms? Are they practicing on like Hollywood posters,

440
00:21:22,824 --> 00:21:25,064
Speaker 1: are they putting lipstick on like their arm?

441
00:21:25,184 --> 00:21:27,384
Speaker 2: Like that is kind of what rings true to me

442
00:21:27,464 --> 00:21:28,104
Speaker 2: at thirteen.

443
00:21:28,184 --> 00:21:31,864
Speaker 1: It was like, no, no, it's very much that exactly

444
00:21:31,904 --> 00:21:32,504
Speaker 1: what you just did.

445
00:21:32,584 --> 00:21:35,944
Speaker 3: No notes, we're going to cut that and that's going

446
00:21:36,024 --> 00:21:38,264
Speaker 3: to play everywhere. Now if you just macking on with

447
00:21:38,304 --> 00:21:41,264
Speaker 3: your hand, what are you doing? Was it your just pretend?

448
00:21:41,264 --> 00:21:42,344
Speaker 2: It's just pretending.

449
00:21:44,504 --> 00:21:46,864
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a scene of that, definitely. They go to

450
00:21:46,944 --> 00:21:49,464
Speaker 3: a kissing expert at one point, which is just like

451
00:21:49,544 --> 00:21:52,304
Speaker 3: the silliest thing ever. There's test to see if your

452
00:21:52,304 --> 00:21:55,424
Speaker 3: boobs are big enough. Like it is it's just pure

453
00:21:55,744 --> 00:22:00,064
Speaker 3: teenage girlhood fun. But it's also like this really lovely

454
00:22:00,144 --> 00:22:02,704
Speaker 3: moment of teaching you what friendship is at a young age.

455
00:22:02,744 --> 00:22:05,744
Speaker 3: I remember being in my early years of high school,

456
00:22:05,864 --> 00:22:07,544
Speaker 3: and up until that point, I don't think i'd never

457
00:22:07,584 --> 00:22:10,064
Speaker 3: actually given the concept of friendship that much thought. It

458
00:22:10,104 --> 00:22:11,744
Speaker 3: was just these are the people that are around me

459
00:22:11,784 --> 00:22:14,464
Speaker 3: by circumstance. They're my neighbors, they're the girls in my

460
00:22:14,544 --> 00:22:17,184
Speaker 3: netball team, like, of course we're friends. And it's only

461
00:22:17,184 --> 00:22:19,624
Speaker 3: as you get to high school and social dynamics start

462
00:22:19,664 --> 00:22:22,344
Speaker 3: to play out that you realize, oh, this is what

463
00:22:22,424 --> 00:22:25,184
Speaker 3: friendship is, and this is how you maintain a friendship,

464
00:22:25,264 --> 00:22:27,344
Speaker 3: and this is what's important in friendship, and this is

465
00:22:27,384 --> 00:22:30,304
Speaker 3: what would be something that would be considered crossing the lines,

466
00:22:30,424 --> 00:22:32,864
Speaker 3: like you know, going after the same boy that you like,

467
00:22:33,024 --> 00:22:35,664
Speaker 3: or ditching your girlfriends for a boy like that kind

468
00:22:35,704 --> 00:22:38,064
Speaker 3: of thing really plays out on screen here. It was

469
00:22:38,104 --> 00:22:40,344
Speaker 3: the first time that I'd really seen that and absorbed

470
00:22:40,344 --> 00:22:42,824
Speaker 3: it into my own world. I just love it so much.

471
00:22:42,904 --> 00:22:45,224
Speaker 3: Like if you haven't seen it, it's probably a bit

472
00:22:45,304 --> 00:22:47,224
Speaker 3: juvenile now if you're a grown woman, but I still

473
00:22:47,264 --> 00:22:48,304
Speaker 3: think it's worth a watch.

474
00:22:48,464 --> 00:22:51,144
Speaker 2: Did you read the book before you watched the movie?

475
00:22:51,384 --> 00:22:53,224
Speaker 3: No, I read the book after. I didn't realize this

476
00:22:53,344 --> 00:22:55,424
Speaker 3: was based on a book, And I should say the

477
00:22:55,424 --> 00:22:59,304
Speaker 3: book is phenomenal. The film is also phenomenal. It's directed

478
00:22:59,304 --> 00:23:01,304
Speaker 3: by Grinda Chater And if you don't know that name,

479
00:23:01,424 --> 00:23:03,624
Speaker 3: that is the woman who gave a spend it like Beckham,

480
00:23:03,664 --> 00:23:05,544
Speaker 3: So she is very much in that wheelhouse.

481
00:23:05,664 --> 00:23:08,824
Speaker 2: I just rewatched that movie the other day. Yeah, I

482
00:23:08,944 --> 00:23:09,864
Speaker 2: love that movie.

483
00:23:10,504 --> 00:23:12,784
Speaker 3: She followed it up with angus thongs and perfect snogging.

484
00:23:12,944 --> 00:23:13,984
Speaker 3: Cannot recommend more.

485
00:23:14,224 --> 00:23:16,104
Speaker 2: You have converted me. I might have to go and

486
00:23:16,264 --> 00:23:16,944
Speaker 2: do that one.

487
00:23:16,904 --> 00:23:19,664
Speaker 3: Caseenya, there's one book on this list that you and

488
00:23:19,704 --> 00:23:22,784
Speaker 3: I have both jotted down, so I'm keen to hear

489
00:23:22,824 --> 00:23:26,024
Speaker 3: your thoughts. So talking about The Great Gatsby, specifically the

490
00:23:26,184 --> 00:23:30,984
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen version starring one Leonardo DiCaprio. Now tell me

491
00:23:31,104 --> 00:23:33,584
Speaker 3: what's your experience with this book and then with the film?

492
00:23:33,784 --> 00:23:36,784
Speaker 1: Okay, So the book is like many of us read

493
00:23:37,184 --> 00:23:39,664
Speaker 1: in high school. It is kind of you know, the

494
00:23:39,784 --> 00:23:44,224
Speaker 1: classic Scott Fitzgerald. You have to read this at English

495
00:23:44,264 --> 00:23:47,064
Speaker 1: in high school. So that was kind of my experience

496
00:23:47,104 --> 00:23:50,584
Speaker 1: with it. But when it got the Basleerman treatment, that's

497
00:23:50,624 --> 00:23:54,664
Speaker 1: when I loved it because I am a bas Lerman obsessive.

498
00:23:55,264 --> 00:24:00,944
Speaker 3: Oh no, this is where we are going to split pads.

499
00:24:01,544 --> 00:24:06,384
Speaker 3: I maybe it is controversially cannot stand and I mean

500
00:24:06,544 --> 00:24:11,664
Speaker 3: cannot stand Basleerman films. This is the exception the Great Gatsby.

501
00:24:11,904 --> 00:24:15,544
Speaker 2: Oh my god, the Red Curtain trilogy. Well you didn't

502
00:24:15,624 --> 00:24:17,264
Speaker 2: like Molan Rouge.

503
00:24:17,064 --> 00:24:20,984
Speaker 3: Now I've got no time for it. Sorry, Australia, don't

504
00:24:21,024 --> 00:24:21,864
Speaker 3: want to sit through it.

505
00:24:22,064 --> 00:24:25,304
Speaker 2: I can'tot strictly what I can't like.

506
00:24:25,664 --> 00:24:30,464
Speaker 1: His style of filmmaking is just so special now it's

507
00:24:30,504 --> 00:24:31,064
Speaker 1: over the top.

508
00:24:31,304 --> 00:24:34,424
Speaker 2: Oh, I love it. It's like theatrical it is. We

509
00:24:34,504 --> 00:24:37,104
Speaker 2: have very different tastes, Dailor, we have.

510
00:24:37,384 --> 00:24:39,024
Speaker 3: Very differ but I'm glad that we can agree on

511
00:24:39,024 --> 00:24:41,104
Speaker 3: The Great Gatsby. And this is why I think Basilan

512
00:24:41,304 --> 00:24:43,144
Speaker 3: was the right person to do this adaptation.

513
00:24:43,344 --> 00:24:43,544
Speaker 1: Right.

514
00:24:43,864 --> 00:24:46,464
Speaker 3: So, the Great Gatsby f Scott Fitzgerald. It's written in

515
00:24:46,544 --> 00:24:49,064
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty five. It's written in the peak of what

516
00:24:49,224 --> 00:24:53,824
Speaker 3: is the Great Depression. It is the most fu to

517
00:24:54,864 --> 00:24:58,344
Speaker 3: the lower class out there. It is showing the exuberance.

518
00:24:58,384 --> 00:25:01,944
Speaker 3: It's showing somebody like Nick Carraway played by Toby Maguire,

519
00:25:01,944 --> 00:25:04,904
Speaker 3: who's wonderful in this, trying to break his way and

520
00:25:05,024 --> 00:25:08,104
Speaker 3: edge his way into this upper echelon of society. And

521
00:25:08,144 --> 00:25:09,904
Speaker 3: there's always going to be something that keeps him back

522
00:25:10,704 --> 00:25:14,064
Speaker 3: at that peak moment when people were experiencing it, and

523
00:25:14,344 --> 00:25:16,384
Speaker 3: for it to be such an over the top affair,

524
00:25:16,864 --> 00:25:19,544
Speaker 3: Basleerman is clearly the only person who could have made

525
00:25:19,584 --> 00:25:22,424
Speaker 3: this happen. Yes, there are a couple of other remakes

526
00:25:22,464 --> 00:25:25,824
Speaker 3: of The Great Gatsby, but speaking specifically about this one,

527
00:25:26,144 --> 00:25:27,904
Speaker 3: of course, this man is going to make this film.

528
00:25:27,944 --> 00:25:30,024
Speaker 3: He's so Ott it was the perfect fit.

529
00:25:30,304 --> 00:25:33,144
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the way that they did all of the

530
00:25:33,384 --> 00:25:36,144
Speaker 1: you know, the driving from Long Island to New York,

531
00:25:36,264 --> 00:25:39,904
Speaker 1: the party scenes was just so classic bas Lerman. And

532
00:25:40,224 --> 00:25:42,864
Speaker 1: what we got from that movie was the very classic

533
00:25:42,944 --> 00:25:47,344
Speaker 1: meme of Leonardo DiCaprio winking with a glass.

534
00:25:47,144 --> 00:25:49,584
Speaker 3: Yeah, holding up his bottle. Yeah, I mean I'm holding

535
00:25:49,664 --> 00:25:51,904
Speaker 3: up my bottle. It's in a champagne coup. But anyway,

536
00:25:52,184 --> 00:25:52,464
Speaker 3: so you.

537
00:25:52,504 --> 00:25:57,064
Speaker 1: Know, we got that like extravagance of the nineteen twenties

538
00:25:57,584 --> 00:26:00,224
Speaker 1: and then intercut with kind of the more gritty side

539
00:26:00,224 --> 00:26:01,024
Speaker 1: of it as well.

540
00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:03,544
Speaker 3: Do you know It's so funny is when f Scott

541
00:26:03,584 --> 00:26:07,384
Speaker 3: Fitzgerald died in the nineteen forty I think he died

542
00:26:07,424 --> 00:26:11,504
Speaker 3: in nineteen forty. He died with this sense of like failure,

543
00:26:11,584 --> 00:26:13,864
Speaker 3: that his work never cut through, that he was just

544
00:26:13,904 --> 00:26:18,384
Speaker 3: this epic loser. And to think that eighty odd, ninety

545
00:26:18,384 --> 00:26:21,824
Speaker 3: odd years later this film came out is just such

546
00:26:21,864 --> 00:26:24,064
Speaker 3: a shame. Like it's such that classic thing of like

547
00:26:24,144 --> 00:26:27,544
Speaker 3: people do these incredible things and don't even necessarily realize

548
00:26:27,584 --> 00:26:29,984
Speaker 3: how much of an impact they've had. Like I said, like,

549
00:26:30,024 --> 00:26:32,504
Speaker 3: it's just really sad that if Scott Fitzgerald died thinking

550
00:26:32,544 --> 00:26:35,184
Speaker 3: like his work amounted to nothing, and it became this

551
00:26:35,504 --> 00:26:38,704
Speaker 3: big ott film that is so beloved. I mean, you

552
00:26:38,744 --> 00:26:40,264
Speaker 3: and I. It's the one thing we agree on about

553
00:26:40,304 --> 00:26:43,984
Speaker 3: Basloman apparently, which is great. But I would also recommend

554
00:26:43,984 --> 00:26:46,704
Speaker 3: seeing the other version of this, like the Robert Redford

555
00:26:46,784 --> 00:26:49,184
Speaker 3: Mia Farrow I think that came out in the forties.

556
00:26:49,224 --> 00:26:50,744
Speaker 3: That was a great rendition as well.

557
00:26:51,064 --> 00:26:51,944
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.

558
00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:55,304
Speaker 1: It's interesting though. It's like, did you read it first

559
00:26:55,344 --> 00:26:58,064
Speaker 1: and then watch it? Or watch it and then read it.

560
00:26:58,064 --> 00:27:00,704
Speaker 1: It's a kind of a funny way to go into

561
00:27:01,184 --> 00:27:03,464
Speaker 1: the law of these characters.

562
00:27:03,624 --> 00:27:06,104
Speaker 2: With crazy rich Asians. Did you read it first and

563
00:27:06,144 --> 00:27:06,744
Speaker 2: then watch it?

564
00:27:07,144 --> 00:27:09,704
Speaker 3: No, I definitely watched it first. I didn't know this

565
00:27:09,824 --> 00:27:13,304
Speaker 3: was based on book series until a very long time

566
00:27:13,344 --> 00:27:15,424
Speaker 3: after the fact, and then once I had read the

567
00:27:15,424 --> 00:27:17,944
Speaker 3: first book, I was totally hooked. I read the entire

568
00:27:18,024 --> 00:27:20,104
Speaker 3: series in like the space of a month.

569
00:27:20,344 --> 00:27:23,944
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, because I did that with like Twilight, you know,

570
00:27:24,344 --> 00:27:27,024
Speaker 1: I watched the movies and then I read the books,

571
00:27:27,144 --> 00:27:29,664
Speaker 1: and like Hunger Games as well, like watch the movies

572
00:27:29,744 --> 00:27:32,824
Speaker 1: then read the books. But the other ones always have

573
00:27:32,944 --> 00:27:38,064
Speaker 1: been book first and then movies, slash TV series. Well, Taylor,

574
00:27:38,544 --> 00:27:40,744
Speaker 1: Now what we're going to do is go into some

575
00:27:40,824 --> 00:27:44,304
Speaker 1: of the books that we really want to see made

576
00:27:44,744 --> 00:27:49,224
Speaker 1: into movies or TV series. Eleanor Oliphant is completely fine.

577
00:27:49,384 --> 00:27:50,224
Speaker 3: That's a mouthful.

578
00:27:50,304 --> 00:27:52,824
Speaker 2: Have you read it? No again?

579
00:27:52,984 --> 00:27:56,704
Speaker 1: One of my absolute favorite books written by Gail Honeyman.

580
00:27:57,344 --> 00:28:02,104
Speaker 1: It is so quirky, spoken from the perspective of Eleanor.

581
00:28:02,584 --> 00:28:03,624
Speaker 2: She's a neurodiversion.

582
00:28:04,064 --> 00:28:07,344
Speaker 1: The way that Gail writes her perspective is so funny

583
00:28:07,424 --> 00:28:11,344
Speaker 1: and clever. So again, Hello Sunshine, have picked this up.

584
00:28:12,144 --> 00:28:14,744
Speaker 1: It's in pre production. It hasn't been.

585
00:28:14,624 --> 00:28:18,104
Speaker 2: Made yet, okay, but I am desperate.

586
00:28:17,824 --> 00:28:20,704
Speaker 1: For it to go onto screen because I would love

587
00:28:20,824 --> 00:28:21,744
Speaker 1: to see it play out.

588
00:28:21,904 --> 00:28:24,744
Speaker 3: Because SNYA is there like a Reese Witherspoon sponsorship. You

589
00:28:24,784 --> 00:28:26,424
Speaker 3: need to declare today do what.

590
00:28:26,584 --> 00:28:31,184
Speaker 1: I actually didn't realize how entwined they were until I

591
00:28:31,224 --> 00:28:35,224
Speaker 1: started writing my list. For some reason, maybe Reese and

592
00:28:35,264 --> 00:28:36,784
Speaker 1: I just have the same taste in books.

593
00:28:37,304 --> 00:28:40,584
Speaker 3: Maybe you do. Hey, one that is also in production,

594
00:28:40,704 --> 00:28:42,144
Speaker 3: And I don't want to linger on this for too

595
00:28:42,224 --> 00:28:43,904
Speaker 3: long because there is something else that I want to

596
00:28:43,904 --> 00:28:47,024
Speaker 3: get to. But I'm glad my mom died. Is Jeanette

597
00:28:47,064 --> 00:28:49,424
Speaker 3: mccurty's memoir. I can see you're jumping up and down.

598
00:28:49,464 --> 00:28:50,584
Speaker 3: You're excited about this too.

599
00:28:50,744 --> 00:28:52,224
Speaker 2: I'm literally fist pumping.

600
00:28:53,624 --> 00:28:56,944
Speaker 3: Yeah. I am usually exclusively a memoir lady. When I

601
00:28:56,984 --> 00:29:00,464
Speaker 3: read this memoir, I was completely obsessed. I think Janet

602
00:29:00,504 --> 00:29:04,504
Speaker 3: mccurty's life is equal parts fascinating and horrific. If you

603
00:29:04,504 --> 00:29:06,704
Speaker 3: don't know who she is, she was a child star

604
00:29:07,024 --> 00:29:09,984
Speaker 3: Nickelodeon IKLA. You can look it all up on the Internet,

605
00:29:10,384 --> 00:29:12,784
Speaker 3: and as the memoir suggests, she's glad her mom died.

606
00:29:12,864 --> 00:29:15,984
Speaker 3: She lived a pretty tumultuous life and relationship with her

607
00:29:16,064 --> 00:29:18,744
Speaker 3: mum as a child star growing up. It's in development

608
00:29:18,824 --> 00:29:22,624
Speaker 3: right now for Apple TV. Plus the show is inspired

609
00:29:22,624 --> 00:29:24,864
Speaker 3: by her memoir. She's going to serve as an executive

610
00:29:24,904 --> 00:29:28,064
Speaker 3: producer and a showrunner. Jennifer Aniston has been cast to

611
00:29:28,064 --> 00:29:30,424
Speaker 3: play the mother figure, so I cannot wait for that

612
00:29:30,504 --> 00:29:32,184
Speaker 3: to come out. I'm going to need to borrow someone's

613
00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:34,744
Speaker 3: Apple TV login to watch it. But you and I

614
00:29:34,784 --> 00:29:36,784
Speaker 3: both equally excited for this by the sound of it.

615
00:29:36,944 --> 00:29:37,424
Speaker 2: Very much.

616
00:29:37,464 --> 00:29:39,504
Speaker 1: And if you don't really feel like reading, this is

617
00:29:39,504 --> 00:29:42,464
Speaker 1: a great one to do as an audiobook. Yes, because

618
00:29:42,504 --> 00:29:45,824
Speaker 1: Jeanett mccurty actually reads it, so it's even more personal.

619
00:29:46,064 --> 00:29:48,704
Speaker 3: One hundred percent agree with that. The one that I

620
00:29:48,744 --> 00:29:51,384
Speaker 3: would desperately love to see on screen. You know how,

621
00:29:51,424 --> 00:29:54,824
Speaker 3: sometimes when you're reading a book and you can see

622
00:29:54,904 --> 00:29:56,544
Speaker 3: what that book is going to look like, you can

623
00:29:56,624 --> 00:29:59,784
Speaker 3: visualize how that would play out on TV or film.

624
00:30:00,184 --> 00:30:02,624
Speaker 3: This is one for me. It's called How to Solve

625
00:30:02,664 --> 00:30:05,624
Speaker 3: Your Own Murder. It's from Kristin Perrien and it is

626
00:30:05,664 --> 00:30:07,784
Speaker 3: book one in a series that she's been working on

627
00:30:07,824 --> 00:30:10,584
Speaker 3: called The Castle Noll Files. The reason as as soon

628
00:30:10,584 --> 00:30:12,664
Speaker 3: as I started reading this that I could immediately see

629
00:30:12,664 --> 00:30:14,784
Speaker 3: how it would play out on screen is the book

630
00:30:14,864 --> 00:30:18,984
Speaker 3: is written in two different time periods. So the protagonist,

631
00:30:18,984 --> 00:30:23,064
Speaker 3: Annie Adams is a young woman from London. She has

632
00:30:23,064 --> 00:30:26,864
Speaker 3: an estranged aunt, great Aunt Francis, and once Aunt Francis

633
00:30:26,904 --> 00:30:29,544
Speaker 3: dies in the first book, there's a massive fortune to

634
00:30:29,584 --> 00:30:32,144
Speaker 3: be had. Great Aunt Francis has no other kids, she's

635
00:30:32,184 --> 00:30:35,464
Speaker 3: got no other relatives. Everything stands to be inherited by

636
00:30:35,464 --> 00:30:39,304
Speaker 3: Annie if she can solve her murder. Great Aunt Francis

637
00:30:39,344 --> 00:30:42,704
Speaker 3: is murdered by the way. So basically this book cuts

638
00:30:42,744 --> 00:30:45,464
Speaker 3: between two time periods, the sixties when great Aunt Francis

639
00:30:45,464 --> 00:30:48,344
Speaker 3: gets her fortune told. Fortune tell her she's going to die,

640
00:30:48,384 --> 00:30:51,184
Speaker 3: She's going to be murdered, and she basically lives her life,

641
00:30:51,224 --> 00:30:54,024
Speaker 3: setting up what is to be like the longest ever

642
00:30:54,144 --> 00:30:57,944
Speaker 3: murder mystery case of all time. And then Annie blows in.

643
00:30:57,944 --> 00:31:01,624
Speaker 3: In modern day, she works through Aunt Francis's old files,

644
00:31:01,704 --> 00:31:04,944
Speaker 3: eventually figuring out who murdered her if she does. I

645
00:31:04,944 --> 00:31:06,904
Speaker 3: don't want to give it too much away, but there

646
00:31:06,904 --> 00:31:08,584
Speaker 3: are like four books in this series, so you can

647
00:31:08,624 --> 00:31:11,424
Speaker 3: probably figure it out from that. It cuts between these

648
00:31:11,424 --> 00:31:14,024
Speaker 3: two time periods. Like I said, it's set in this beautiful,

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Speaker 3: small country town in England. She lives in this big

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Speaker 3: manner at the top of a hill. The local townspeople

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Speaker 3: aren't necessarily sure of her. They kind of thought Great

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Speaker 3: Aunt Francis was a bit of a batty old lady,

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Speaker 3: and then Annie comes to town and everything changes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so those are some of the ones that we

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Speaker 1: really want to see. If you guys have any others,

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Speaker 1: please send us a DM.

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Speaker 2: We would love to know. And just a little caveat here.

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Speaker 1: We didn't include the obvious ones like Lord of the

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Speaker 1: Rings or Gamers Drones on purpose. We wanted to do

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Speaker 1: someone's that were a little bit different apart.

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Speaker 2: From Big Little Eyes of course.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to the Spill today

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Speaker 1: and thank you Taylor for joining us. Don't forget to

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Speaker 1: feed for all of us celeb headlines at eight am

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Speaker 1: tomorrow with Morning Tea and then back with another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Spill at three pm.

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Speaker 3: Bye Bye,