1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:11,553 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,754 --> 00:00:19,393 Speaker 2: From Mom and Me. 3 00:00:19,474 --> 00:00:22,434 Speaker 1: I welcome to this bill, your daily pop culture fixed. 4 00:00:22,594 --> 00:00:25,714 Speaker 1: I'm Laura Brodnick, and I'm Tina Burke. Mama Me is 5 00:00:25,754 --> 00:00:28,834 Speaker 1: pop culture and social editor. So Tina is here for 6 00:00:28,954 --> 00:00:31,434 Speaker 1: two I would say equally important reasons. One is that 7 00:00:31,434 --> 00:00:33,834 Speaker 1: Emily is not here, and as much as I would 8 00:00:33,833 --> 00:00:36,593 Speaker 1: love to monologue into a microphone for a whole episode 9 00:00:36,594 --> 00:00:39,434 Speaker 1: by myself, I've been told that's not okay by our bosses. 10 00:00:39,754 --> 00:00:43,714 Speaker 1: And two, you have the inside track on one of 11 00:00:43,754 --> 00:00:47,514 Speaker 1: the biggest TV show releases of the last couple of years. 12 00:00:47,233 --> 00:00:48,233 Speaker 2: And it's out this week. 13 00:00:48,473 --> 00:00:50,833 Speaker 1: You got to watch the screeners ahead of everyone else. 14 00:00:50,873 --> 00:00:53,193 Speaker 1: You are deep in the fandom law you interviewed the 15 00:00:53,394 --> 00:00:56,834 Speaker 1: cast huge, So we're going to get into that. But first, 16 00:00:57,074 --> 00:00:59,234 Speaker 1: Emily is not physically here, nor is she in the 17 00:00:59,314 --> 00:01:02,514 Speaker 1: state currently, But she refused to be left out of 18 00:01:02,554 --> 00:01:06,354 Speaker 1: the episode because a movie that she loves premiere this 19 00:01:06,394 --> 00:01:07,794 Speaker 1: week and she got to see it, so it's in 20 00:01:07,874 --> 00:01:08,634 Speaker 1: cinemas now. 21 00:01:09,114 --> 00:01:10,074 Speaker 2: Zoutopia too. 22 00:01:10,634 --> 00:01:14,434 Speaker 3: Welcome to Partners in Crisis. I am your therapy animal 23 00:01:14,554 --> 00:01:18,994 Speaker 3: doctor fusby Greg. We talked about that. What are we 24 00:01:19,034 --> 00:01:26,234 Speaker 3: making Merlin uncomfortable. Yes, okay. Unfortunately, Karen has chosen to 25 00:01:26,234 --> 00:01:31,034 Speaker 3: see Joel's smile as a sign of aggression. Tackles down, Karen, Karen, 26 00:01:31,114 --> 00:01:31,794 Speaker 3: tackles down. 27 00:01:31,914 --> 00:01:35,154 Speaker 2: Someone get the host, funny Fox. 28 00:01:35,314 --> 00:01:38,434 Speaker 4: This is a make or break assignment failure, and I 29 00:01:38,474 --> 00:01:39,714 Speaker 4: will split you up. 30 00:01:39,874 --> 00:01:43,234 Speaker 1: No snake has set foot in Utopia in Forever, Hops, 31 00:01:43,314 --> 00:01:47,474 Speaker 1: mild Wild and Hops the Dream Team. 32 00:01:47,514 --> 00:01:51,794 Speaker 5: Sorry, Paul, sorryful. 33 00:01:52,954 --> 00:01:56,754 Speaker 1: The biggest cinematic release of twenty twenty. I forget your 34 00:01:56,834 --> 00:01:59,074 Speaker 1: Zootope fan. So here's what you and I here's well, 35 00:01:59,074 --> 00:02:01,234 Speaker 1: here's where I'm gonna judge you on that because you 36 00:02:01,274 --> 00:02:03,634 Speaker 1: say you love Zootopia. But this week you and I 37 00:02:03,674 --> 00:02:06,154 Speaker 1: had a little Sophie's choice to make because we went 38 00:02:06,234 --> 00:02:09,754 Speaker 1: invited to the prem of Zootopia too. We also got 39 00:02:09,794 --> 00:02:12,554 Speaker 1: invited by Netflix to the launch of the new season 40 00:02:12,554 --> 00:02:15,674 Speaker 1: of Stranger Things, where we could go to Sydney Harbor 41 00:02:15,754 --> 00:02:19,234 Speaker 1: and have a bevy of drinks and snacks and watch 42 00:02:19,314 --> 00:02:22,233 Speaker 1: this incredible installation that they did over the Harbor where 43 00:02:22,314 --> 00:02:25,794 Speaker 1: Vecna was literally floating over us. And because we're adults, 44 00:02:25,794 --> 00:02:27,314 Speaker 1: we chose to go to Strange Things. 45 00:02:27,554 --> 00:02:28,034 Speaker 2: We did. 46 00:02:28,314 --> 00:02:30,034 Speaker 1: It was a Sophie's choice. Of course, it was a 47 00:02:30,074 --> 00:02:30,794 Speaker 1: very big deal to me. 48 00:02:31,034 --> 00:02:32,994 Speaker 2: For me, I was like, I'm using and I. 49 00:02:33,114 --> 00:02:34,754 Speaker 1: Like to follow Laura everywhere she goes, so that was 50 00:02:34,794 --> 00:02:36,953 Speaker 1: an easy choice for me. But I had to see 51 00:02:36,954 --> 00:02:37,874 Speaker 1: stranger things through. 52 00:02:37,914 --> 00:02:38,114 Speaker 3: You know. 53 00:02:38,194 --> 00:02:40,234 Speaker 1: It was the end of a culmination of a personal 54 00:02:40,314 --> 00:02:42,234 Speaker 1: journey for me. And I can see Zutopia too in 55 00:02:42,274 --> 00:02:44,474 Speaker 1: my own time in the cinema. I can't recreate Vecna 56 00:02:44,554 --> 00:02:45,954 Speaker 1: on the Harbor, so true, and. 57 00:02:45,914 --> 00:02:46,674 Speaker 2: That is what I thought. 58 00:02:46,714 --> 00:02:49,634 Speaker 1: So Emily couldn't be here today, but she wanted to 59 00:02:49,714 --> 00:02:53,754 Speaker 1: give you the spillers her honest review of z Utopia two. 60 00:02:53,914 --> 00:02:57,114 Speaker 1: Coming into this movie as an absolute fan, so she 61 00:02:57,194 --> 00:03:00,274 Speaker 1: has sent us a voice note with her review and 62 00:03:00,554 --> 00:03:02,194 Speaker 1: you and I are hearing this for the first time. 63 00:03:02,314 --> 00:03:04,794 Speaker 1: So I don't know what's about to happen, guys, but 64 00:03:04,874 --> 00:03:06,594 Speaker 1: here we go. Emily Vernam So. 65 00:03:06,714 --> 00:03:12,114 Speaker 4: Yeah, I went to see Zotopia two. Firstly, the premiere 66 00:03:12,234 --> 00:03:15,234 Speaker 4: was amazing. They served as Pinacolades. Was a big fan 67 00:03:15,314 --> 00:03:20,234 Speaker 4: of that. So Zotopia too. What it's about. So we 68 00:03:20,354 --> 00:03:24,394 Speaker 4: still have Judy and Nick, the Bunny and the Fox, 69 00:03:25,034 --> 00:03:27,594 Speaker 4: and now they're both police officers and their partners and 70 00:03:27,634 --> 00:03:30,474 Speaker 4: they have to kind of work on their partnership because 71 00:03:30,474 --> 00:03:33,874 Speaker 4: they're like complete opposites. And then while they're working on 72 00:03:33,914 --> 00:03:37,074 Speaker 4: their professional relationship, they're also I guess working on their 73 00:03:37,114 --> 00:03:39,634 Speaker 4: personal relationship, although it's not as I don't think it's 74 00:03:39,674 --> 00:03:43,994 Speaker 4: as sexy as Zutopia one, but they are a bit flirty, 75 00:03:44,034 --> 00:03:47,794 Speaker 4: so you still you still get some elements of that. 76 00:03:47,994 --> 00:03:52,914 Speaker 4: But anyway, Zootopia too. So you know how there's mammals 77 00:03:52,994 --> 00:03:57,874 Speaker 4: in Zotopia, Well, all mammals can't live together because they 78 00:03:57,914 --> 00:04:02,514 Speaker 4: all come from different environments. Like polar bears can't live 79 00:04:02,674 --> 00:04:07,314 Speaker 4: with rhinos because rhinos need heat and polar bears need cold. 80 00:04:07,634 --> 00:04:10,794 Speaker 4: So then this I think he's a snow cat. The 81 00:04:10,914 --> 00:04:15,354 Speaker 4: snow cat guy decides to make these big walls so 82 00:04:15,394 --> 00:04:17,914 Speaker 4: then all animals can live in harmony. So it's like 83 00:04:17,914 --> 00:04:21,113 Speaker 4: a quadrant. So you have like the desert area and 84 00:04:21,154 --> 00:04:24,913 Speaker 4: the snow area, and the jungle area and the water area, 85 00:04:25,234 --> 00:04:28,234 Speaker 4: and they can all live in harmony. But everyone forgets 86 00:04:28,234 --> 00:04:30,914 Speaker 4: about the reptiles. Where are the reptiles going to go? 87 00:04:31,354 --> 00:04:33,954 Speaker 4: So that is the whole I think I gave a 88 00:04:33,953 --> 00:04:36,834 Speaker 4: bit too much away. That's pretty much what the movie does, 89 00:04:36,993 --> 00:04:43,034 Speaker 4: is they have to find where the reptiles are going 90 00:04:43,113 --> 00:04:46,474 Speaker 4: to go. But I can't say too much because I'll 91 00:04:46,513 --> 00:04:49,394 Speaker 4: spoil it. So make sure you watch it because it's 92 00:04:49,553 --> 00:04:51,993 Speaker 4: really good. It happens to a business weekend. 93 00:04:52,354 --> 00:04:52,714 Speaker 2: Bye. 94 00:04:53,193 --> 00:04:55,753 Speaker 1: I'll drop on my sword here because I was the 95 00:04:55,753 --> 00:04:57,433 Speaker 1: one who said to Emily, Hey, you're not going to 96 00:04:57,513 --> 00:04:58,873 Speaker 1: be here, but you really want to do this review 97 00:04:58,914 --> 00:05:00,994 Speaker 1: send us a voice note, And I do regret that 98 00:05:01,113 --> 00:05:02,274 Speaker 1: for many reasons. 99 00:05:02,474 --> 00:05:04,634 Speaker 2: One thing about Emily Vernon that we love. 100 00:05:04,474 --> 00:05:07,873 Speaker 1: And also question is that she will watch entire movie 101 00:05:07,914 --> 00:05:09,833 Speaker 1: and it'll be her favorite movie, but she can't really 102 00:05:09,914 --> 00:05:11,993 Speaker 1: tell you the plot afterwards. And I feel like we 103 00:05:12,034 --> 00:05:14,833 Speaker 1: saw that here in her review of Zutopia Too good 104 00:05:14,834 --> 00:05:16,553 Speaker 1: to Know. There was good drinks at the premiere. Yeah, 105 00:05:16,594 --> 00:05:17,193 Speaker 1: that sounds fun. 106 00:05:17,274 --> 00:05:17,713 Speaker 2: Good note. 107 00:05:17,753 --> 00:05:20,594 Speaker 1: Not as sexy as the first one, huge animated children's 108 00:05:20,594 --> 00:05:22,514 Speaker 1: movie that it is. But the fox is so sexy 109 00:05:22,594 --> 00:05:25,234 Speaker 1: everyone's talking about Yeah. So okay, So this is where you, 110 00:05:25,274 --> 00:05:27,273 Speaker 1: as someone who has seen the first Utopia, I might 111 00:05:27,274 --> 00:05:29,113 Speaker 1: have to kind of jump in. I'm here, I'm ready. 112 00:05:29,234 --> 00:05:31,673 Speaker 1: First of all, who she uses the fox? The fox 113 00:05:31,753 --> 00:05:34,834 Speaker 1: is Jason Bateman. The Fox is Jason, Yeah, and that's 114 00:05:34,873 --> 00:05:37,234 Speaker 1: why he's hot because he's slinky and he's Jason Bait. 115 00:05:37,393 --> 00:05:40,234 Speaker 1: Yeah people are so sexy and wears to sunglasses. 116 00:05:40,513 --> 00:05:41,153 Speaker 2: Who wouldn't be? 117 00:05:41,154 --> 00:05:44,034 Speaker 1: But I get that. I mean for most millennials being 118 00:05:44,073 --> 00:05:45,753 Speaker 1: sexually attracted to a cartoon fox. 119 00:05:45,794 --> 00:05:46,674 Speaker 2: This is not our first. 120 00:05:46,474 --> 00:05:48,553 Speaker 1: Radio No, it's not. We've seen Robinhood. We've seen the 121 00:05:48,553 --> 00:05:51,513 Speaker 1: Disney classic Robin Hood. We know with the Hot Fox, 122 00:05:51,633 --> 00:05:54,234 Speaker 1: foxes can be sexy. Yeah, don't put that anywhere. 123 00:05:54,313 --> 00:05:54,674 Speaker 2: Don't put that. 124 00:05:55,393 --> 00:05:58,034 Speaker 1: Take it back to watch the Animals of farthing Wood. No, 125 00:05:58,274 --> 00:06:00,273 Speaker 1: oh my god, that is there a Hot Fox watch? 126 00:06:00,674 --> 00:06:03,433 Speaker 1: So it's about a family of hot fox It's actually 127 00:06:03,433 --> 00:06:06,914 Speaker 1: a very sad, beautifully crafted animated series that I thought 128 00:06:06,953 --> 00:06:09,754 Speaker 1: all millennials had watched as children. But there's a lot 129 00:06:09,753 --> 00:06:11,993 Speaker 1: of foxes and wolves and whatnot in that that are 130 00:06:12,034 --> 00:06:14,354 Speaker 1: very sexy. But okay, so yeah, so I guess it's 131 00:06:14,354 --> 00:06:18,393 Speaker 1: an ongoing thing. But yeah, so the First Utopia teut Okay, 132 00:06:18,433 --> 00:06:20,513 Speaker 1: she has kind of described an element of the First 133 00:06:21,393 --> 00:06:25,073 Speaker 1: Utopia to review the First Utopia. We do see that 134 00:06:25,354 --> 00:06:28,513 Speaker 1: basically this Zutopia world animals they all live together in 135 00:06:28,553 --> 00:06:31,113 Speaker 1: harmony and like, so the animals that might like be 136 00:06:31,193 --> 00:06:34,634 Speaker 1: predators and hunt down other animals. They're all well behaved 137 00:06:34,674 --> 00:06:37,113 Speaker 1: and good in society. Like we're not killing each other, 138 00:06:37,154 --> 00:06:39,433 Speaker 1: the lions aren't attacking you know, the zebras. None of 139 00:06:39,474 --> 00:06:46,193 Speaker 1: that's happening in Dutopia. So it's like a beautiful utopia. Zutopia. 140 00:06:44,073 --> 00:06:49,073 Speaker 1: That's what I got to do. Did you realize that 141 00:06:49,073 --> 00:06:51,113 Speaker 1: for the first time or did you think that I 142 00:06:51,154 --> 00:06:52,074 Speaker 1: wasn't picking that up? 143 00:06:52,393 --> 00:06:57,354 Speaker 2: A bit of both. You just realize that's what it's 144 00:06:57,393 --> 00:07:00,513 Speaker 2: called utopia. This movie's been up for like ten years. 145 00:07:00,594 --> 00:07:03,393 Speaker 2: I've never thought about this movie. I love this movie. 146 00:07:03,433 --> 00:07:05,073 Speaker 2: Shakira sings this song. It's so good. 147 00:07:05,594 --> 00:07:07,674 Speaker 1: I've never thought about that again. Okay, Wow, why is 148 00:07:07,714 --> 00:07:14,354 Speaker 1: it called Zutopia as a mystery for no one except you? 149 00:07:14,834 --> 00:07:19,674 Speaker 1: Cracks the case, Disney, I know. Okay, so that's the situation. However, 150 00:07:19,674 --> 00:07:21,874 Speaker 1: there's a lovely bunny. Her name is Judy Hops and 151 00:07:21,953 --> 00:07:25,754 Speaker 1: she always by voiced by Jennifer Goodwin. Yeah, incredible. I 152 00:07:25,794 --> 00:07:28,833 Speaker 1: just thought that so important because she's such an incredible actress. 153 00:07:28,834 --> 00:07:30,754 Speaker 1: There's Sonny movies. We loved her and he's just not 154 00:07:30,754 --> 00:07:34,074 Speaker 1: that into you. But most importantly that she was snow 155 00:07:34,074 --> 00:07:37,033 Speaker 1: White in One More Times TV series and She is 156 00:07:37,114 --> 00:07:39,914 Speaker 1: married to the guy who played Prince Charming in that series, 157 00:07:40,234 --> 00:07:42,634 Speaker 1: and they never bring their two sons to any events. 158 00:07:42,674 --> 00:07:44,754 Speaker 1: They keep them out of Hollywood. Their faces never seen. 159 00:07:44,994 --> 00:07:47,514 Speaker 1: And she brought them to the Zutopia two premiere because 160 00:07:47,554 --> 00:07:49,514 Speaker 1: she was like, this is for all of us. Cancel 161 00:07:49,554 --> 00:07:51,233 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But like, I think they actually 162 00:07:51,274 --> 00:07:52,673 Speaker 1: voiced characters, the two kids. 163 00:07:52,674 --> 00:07:53,034 Speaker 3: I think. 164 00:07:54,594 --> 00:07:55,994 Speaker 2: To do a little bit. Yeah, yeah, a little, a 165 00:07:56,034 --> 00:07:58,833 Speaker 2: little something. That's my inn. So she voices Judy, Yeah, 166 00:07:59,234 --> 00:08:00,234 Speaker 2: hops rabbit a. 167 00:08:00,194 --> 00:08:02,914 Speaker 1: Buddy, and she do you know why she's called Judy 168 00:08:02,914 --> 00:08:06,393 Speaker 1: Hobbs or has alluded to that one? I did pick 169 00:08:06,514 --> 00:08:09,474 Speaker 1: up that's subtlety disticking. I got that one. And so 170 00:08:09,514 --> 00:08:11,314 Speaker 1: she's always dreamed of being a police officer. She wants 171 00:08:11,354 --> 00:08:12,793 Speaker 1: to fight crime and make the world a better place. 172 00:08:12,834 --> 00:08:15,393 Speaker 1: She's really idealistic. And then she goes to the big 173 00:08:15,434 --> 00:08:17,714 Speaker 1: city and she know, you know, defies expectations and then 174 00:08:17,714 --> 00:08:19,634 Speaker 1: she becomes a police officer and she gets to go 175 00:08:19,674 --> 00:08:22,794 Speaker 1: to Zutopia, to the Metropolis and being the biggest precinct. 176 00:08:23,074 --> 00:08:24,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's all very exciting. 177 00:08:24,314 --> 00:08:25,914 Speaker 1: She was top of her class, but everyone still sees 178 00:08:25,953 --> 00:08:28,273 Speaker 1: her as like a dumb bunny, like, sorry, you're just 179 00:08:28,274 --> 00:08:29,234 Speaker 1: a little bunny. 180 00:08:29,754 --> 00:08:31,714 Speaker 2: To realize Utopia was such a feminist tale. 181 00:08:31,874 --> 00:08:34,994 Speaker 1: Yeah, such an interesting one. 182 00:08:37,674 --> 00:08:39,674 Speaker 2: But then she does go through the faction. 183 00:08:39,754 --> 00:08:41,714 Speaker 1: So in the first movie you see kind of like 184 00:08:41,954 --> 00:08:43,874 Speaker 1: if you're a polar bear, you live in the snowy section. 185 00:08:43,914 --> 00:08:46,994 Speaker 1: They have a winter section, a summer section. Honestly, watching 186 00:08:47,034 --> 00:08:49,034 Speaker 1: the train go through all the sections in the first 187 00:08:49,074 --> 00:08:52,114 Speaker 1: movie as Shakira plays and she's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, 188 00:08:52,714 --> 00:08:54,634 Speaker 1: I'm not glad to see, but I did. It's really 189 00:08:54,714 --> 00:08:56,154 Speaker 1: nice and you see all the vibes. So I guess 190 00:08:56,154 --> 00:08:58,314 Speaker 1: they thought that everyone really liked that scene and that 191 00:08:58,354 --> 00:09:01,154 Speaker 1: maybe this time we'd get more into like wherever I lives, 192 00:09:01,274 --> 00:09:03,794 Speaker 1: because last time it was about the predators were being 193 00:09:03,874 --> 00:09:07,474 Speaker 1: shot with trunk guns and it was like micro a 194 00:09:07,554 --> 00:09:09,754 Speaker 1: kids movie. Yeah, it was like microdosing them to turn 195 00:09:09,794 --> 00:09:12,114 Speaker 1: into like predators and like attack. So it was all 196 00:09:12,154 --> 00:09:14,514 Speaker 1: like a hidden agenda from what was her name? She 197 00:09:14,594 --> 00:09:16,354 Speaker 1: was a little sheep and she worked in government and 198 00:09:17,234 --> 00:09:19,154 Speaker 1: just spoils Utopia for people haven't seen it. 199 00:09:19,554 --> 00:09:20,474 Speaker 2: Maybe let's cut that. 200 00:09:22,874 --> 00:09:25,074 Speaker 1: But so yeah, then this one had like crime and 201 00:09:25,074 --> 00:09:26,634 Speaker 1: they were solving a crime, so she teamed up with 202 00:09:26,634 --> 00:09:28,314 Speaker 1: the sly fox who was not a police officer, and 203 00:09:28,394 --> 00:09:29,834 Speaker 1: everyone sees Fox as a slide. 204 00:09:29,834 --> 00:09:30,474 Speaker 2: There's a lot of like. 205 00:09:30,434 --> 00:09:33,314 Speaker 1: Inherent racism in the animal community and these movies, and 206 00:09:33,354 --> 00:09:35,634 Speaker 1: it sounds like that fleeds into Utopia too, because now 207 00:09:35,674 --> 00:09:38,674 Speaker 1: it's the reptiles. Yeah, and they were left out, so 208 00:09:38,714 --> 00:09:40,394 Speaker 1: now we're seeing what to do with the reptiles. 209 00:09:40,554 --> 00:09:42,914 Speaker 2: Is I guess is Utopia too? Okay? 210 00:09:42,914 --> 00:09:44,954 Speaker 1: A huge question from me as someone who hasn't seen 211 00:09:45,194 --> 00:09:48,714 Speaker 1: near the Utopia and also might never do the bunny 212 00:09:48,754 --> 00:09:49,874 Speaker 1: and the fox hook up. 213 00:09:50,434 --> 00:09:51,274 Speaker 2: Is there a love story? 214 00:09:51,314 --> 00:09:54,714 Speaker 1: That's yes, so there's a flirt there's a flirtation chip 215 00:09:54,794 --> 00:09:57,194 Speaker 1: and we never Yeah, it was. 216 00:09:59,394 --> 00:09:59,914 Speaker 2: It's so good. 217 00:10:00,114 --> 00:10:02,714 Speaker 1: It was enemies to lovers, neither believed in each other. 218 00:10:03,114 --> 00:10:05,394 Speaker 1: What could we say? Ends with a big situation. He 219 00:10:05,434 --> 00:10:07,274 Speaker 1: gets like he's like, I'm gonna be a cop too? 220 00:10:07,354 --> 00:10:10,314 Speaker 2: Why not? I'm a detective? Yeah, and then we see 221 00:10:10,354 --> 00:10:11,354 Speaker 2: that they like each other. 222 00:10:11,954 --> 00:10:14,594 Speaker 1: And then I guess in this movie maybe maybe more 223 00:10:14,714 --> 00:10:15,514 Speaker 1: maybe romance and. 224 00:10:15,874 --> 00:10:17,074 Speaker 2: Really left that out of her review. 225 00:10:17,074 --> 00:10:19,474 Speaker 1: It was like she's really explaining the factions of polar 226 00:10:19,474 --> 00:10:21,794 Speaker 1: bears and not telling us that the animal's hookups, So like, 227 00:10:21,834 --> 00:10:24,634 Speaker 1: did you know, lizards have blood, they warm blooded. I 228 00:10:24,674 --> 00:10:29,354 Speaker 1: don't know, so Zutopia too, Adam Cinemas. Now, I think 229 00:10:29,394 --> 00:10:31,394 Speaker 1: people are very excited for this because it was a 230 00:10:31,514 --> 00:10:34,514 Speaker 1: huge critical and box office success when it came out, 231 00:10:34,594 --> 00:10:36,434 Speaker 1: and people have been waiting and waiting and waiting with 232 00:10:36,474 --> 00:10:38,953 Speaker 1: Beta Bath of the sequel. I know Jennifer good One 233 00:10:38,954 --> 00:10:41,034 Speaker 1: just because I follow what she does. She always gets 234 00:10:41,074 --> 00:10:42,954 Speaker 1: asked about an interviews over the years when she's been 235 00:10:42,994 --> 00:10:45,754 Speaker 1: releasing movies and TV shows and things, and she always said, 236 00:10:45,754 --> 00:10:47,994 Speaker 1: I would love to do it, but there's nothing in 237 00:10:47,994 --> 00:10:49,554 Speaker 1: the works of the moment, and then it took so 238 00:10:49,594 --> 00:10:50,914 Speaker 1: long for it to come out. So I think this 239 00:10:50,994 --> 00:10:53,234 Speaker 1: is like like very exciting for fans. And we know 240 00:10:53,274 --> 00:10:55,754 Speaker 1: I'm something of a Disney adult myself, but like I've 241 00:10:55,754 --> 00:10:57,914 Speaker 1: seen a lot of the Disney adults I follow on TikTok. 242 00:10:57,954 --> 00:10:59,794 Speaker 1: They all got to do the early screenings and they 243 00:10:59,834 --> 00:11:01,594 Speaker 1: are blown away by the film. 244 00:11:01,714 --> 00:11:04,914 Speaker 2: They're loving it. They say animation is back. Well there 245 00:11:04,914 --> 00:11:05,274 Speaker 2: you go. 246 00:11:05,274 --> 00:11:07,834 Speaker 1: The TikTokers and Emily Vernon two thumbs up from them, 247 00:11:08,354 --> 00:11:09,954 Speaker 1: not from us. We haven't seen it, but they go 248 00:11:10,034 --> 00:11:14,834 Speaker 1: a recommendation. Okay, Well, moving on to the real reason 249 00:11:14,874 --> 00:11:17,634 Speaker 1: Tinerberg is here not just to explain the intricacies of 250 00:11:17,834 --> 00:11:22,474 Speaker 1: online animated animal hookups, which is the fact that the 251 00:11:22,554 --> 00:11:25,474 Speaker 1: new season of Stranger Things, the first half of the 252 00:11:25,514 --> 00:11:28,994 Speaker 1: new season, is finally here. We have a plan. 253 00:11:29,674 --> 00:11:30,434 Speaker 5: It's a bit insane. 254 00:11:31,834 --> 00:11:32,834 Speaker 1: Yeah, what could go wrong? 255 00:11:33,154 --> 00:11:36,554 Speaker 2: No idea, but I think we should find out everyone in. 256 00:11:38,834 --> 00:11:40,474 Speaker 4: I want to see Vector's heart on a platter. 257 00:11:43,074 --> 00:11:44,114 Speaker 3: He knows where we are. 258 00:11:48,394 --> 00:11:51,274 Speaker 1: And you got to go finally here, And I have 259 00:11:51,314 --> 00:11:53,914 Speaker 1: waited for this day for so long. Yeah, how long 260 00:11:53,914 --> 00:11:56,514 Speaker 1: has it been between seasons? This season five? Right, this 261 00:11:56,594 --> 00:11:59,954 Speaker 1: is season five and it's been three years. The cars 262 00:11:59,954 --> 00:12:02,754 Speaker 1: were joking that there are some shows. Yeah, that wasn't 263 00:12:02,794 --> 00:12:05,194 Speaker 1: my summer I Turned Pretty. My book was joking about 264 00:12:05,194 --> 00:12:07,514 Speaker 1: the entirety of the summer I Turned Pretty. Has happened 265 00:12:07,514 --> 00:12:09,074 Speaker 1: while we waited for Strange while we were on a 266 00:12:09,074 --> 00:12:11,114 Speaker 1: break from Stranger Things, while we were on a break, 267 00:12:11,154 --> 00:12:14,154 Speaker 1: So you could forgive people for not remembering anything at all, 268 00:12:14,234 --> 00:12:16,474 Speaker 1: And like, you know that Netflix is really like dialing 269 00:12:16,554 --> 00:12:18,554 Speaker 1: in on that because they keep doing like recaps with 270 00:12:18,594 --> 00:12:20,714 Speaker 1: the cast and like trying to make sure everyone remembers 271 00:12:20,714 --> 00:12:23,154 Speaker 1: everyone's across what happened three years ago. Well, it was 272 00:12:23,234 --> 00:12:26,234 Speaker 1: this huge cultural moment, and it was when the show started. 273 00:12:26,434 --> 00:12:29,674 Speaker 1: But I think last season in particular, with the song 274 00:12:29,834 --> 00:12:32,674 Speaker 1: choices and where the characters went and being able to 275 00:12:32,714 --> 00:12:35,234 Speaker 1: sort of see more of Vecna's storyline, it became this 276 00:12:35,354 --> 00:12:37,874 Speaker 1: huge cultural moment. I know this is a really hard 277 00:12:37,874 --> 00:12:39,754 Speaker 1: thing to do, but for people who haven't watched it 278 00:12:39,794 --> 00:12:42,074 Speaker 1: in three years and have no memory of what happened, 279 00:12:42,194 --> 00:12:44,274 Speaker 1: can you give us like a inkling of where we 280 00:12:44,354 --> 00:12:45,594 Speaker 1: left off in the last season. 281 00:12:45,914 --> 00:12:46,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, just what. 282 00:12:46,554 --> 00:12:49,234 Speaker 1: People need to know going into the new season. When 283 00:12:49,274 --> 00:12:51,674 Speaker 1: I tried to think about this, I then started describing No. 284 00:12:51,754 --> 00:12:53,034 Speaker 1: But if I'm going to talk about season four an 285 00:12:53,074 --> 00:12:54,874 Speaker 1: instra worst Season three, no, No, I. 286 00:12:54,794 --> 00:12:55,274 Speaker 2: Can do it. 287 00:12:55,514 --> 00:12:58,274 Speaker 1: So season four was pretty much picking up in the 288 00:12:58,314 --> 00:13:01,314 Speaker 1: aftermath of this big summer they all had. I'll just 289 00:13:01,314 --> 00:13:03,394 Speaker 1: call it the big summer of Seson three, and that 290 00:13:03,474 --> 00:13:05,554 Speaker 1: was where we really saw the mind flawer and that 291 00:13:05,634 --> 00:13:07,994 Speaker 1: was like the next reveal of Mom's Right Season one 292 00:13:07,994 --> 00:13:11,714 Speaker 1: and season two Demigrgan's Demi Dogs, and then season three 293 00:13:11,834 --> 00:13:13,274 Speaker 1: is where we get the mind Player and it's like 294 00:13:13,354 --> 00:13:15,994 Speaker 1: infiltrating people's minds and it's big and scary. The really 295 00:13:16,034 --> 00:13:18,514 Speaker 1: big monster with the arms. Yeah, Cyril, in case you're 296 00:13:18,514 --> 00:13:20,554 Speaker 1: literally like, I don't recall it all. And that was 297 00:13:20,554 --> 00:13:22,914 Speaker 1: how Billy, which is Max's brother, that's how he died 298 00:13:23,074 --> 00:13:24,394 Speaker 1: was at the hands of the mind player. 299 00:13:24,554 --> 00:13:27,834 Speaker 2: I interviewed the actor who played him for that, right. 300 00:13:27,954 --> 00:13:29,074 Speaker 2: Yeah he was. 301 00:13:32,234 --> 00:13:34,954 Speaker 1: No, he was I would say, lovely, polite, just dead 302 00:13:34,994 --> 00:13:35,674 Speaker 1: behind the eyes. 303 00:13:35,714 --> 00:13:36,754 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I just meant a do. 304 00:13:37,034 --> 00:13:38,674 Speaker 1: We took a kick photo together. Afterwards you put his 305 00:13:38,754 --> 00:13:40,434 Speaker 1: arm around me, and I'm like, well, maybe you're fine. 306 00:13:40,354 --> 00:13:42,834 Speaker 2: Maybe not. Everyone needs to be smart and engaging. It's 307 00:13:43,314 --> 00:13:44,474 Speaker 2: no true, that's so true. 308 00:13:44,714 --> 00:13:47,474 Speaker 1: So season four was very much about, like Max is 309 00:13:47,474 --> 00:13:50,394 Speaker 1: in a state of obvious trauma and depression about the 310 00:13:50,434 --> 00:13:52,314 Speaker 1: fact that she's lost her brother to this monster. A 311 00:13:52,314 --> 00:13:54,474 Speaker 1: lot of people don't obviously, the town doesn't know what's 312 00:13:54,514 --> 00:13:56,954 Speaker 1: really happened. So she kind of really turns in on 313 00:13:56,994 --> 00:13:59,314 Speaker 1: herself and the group's all really worried about her, and 314 00:13:59,354 --> 00:14:03,514 Speaker 1: so she becomes one of the victims of this mysterious situation. 315 00:14:03,594 --> 00:14:05,474 Speaker 1: So they all know what the upside down is, but 316 00:14:05,514 --> 00:14:08,154 Speaker 1: what they don't understand is why some stuff starts happening 317 00:14:08,194 --> 00:14:10,554 Speaker 1: in the town. So that's how we sort of meet Eddie, 318 00:14:10,714 --> 00:14:13,354 Speaker 1: who all of our favorite team boys become friends with Eddie, 319 00:14:13,354 --> 00:14:15,634 Speaker 1: which was played by Joseph Quinn, who, yeah, since this 320 00:14:15,714 --> 00:14:17,714 Speaker 1: came out, has gone on to have a flourishing career. 321 00:14:17,914 --> 00:14:20,034 Speaker 1: Oh I do I know about that because I interviewed 322 00:14:20,074 --> 00:14:22,834 Speaker 1: him for a Fantastic four and he also didn't really 323 00:14:24,234 --> 00:14:25,074 Speaker 1: Can I just say. 324 00:14:25,034 --> 00:14:27,554 Speaker 2: Sometimes things boys not happy with Lauren? 325 00:14:28,354 --> 00:14:30,314 Speaker 1: No, no, he was lovely to you, but he just 326 00:14:30,394 --> 00:14:32,074 Speaker 1: was a bit dead by thee Yeah, they do. 327 00:14:32,154 --> 00:14:33,914 Speaker 2: And you know what, they'd flown to Australia. They were like, 328 00:14:33,914 --> 00:14:34,554 Speaker 2: we've had no no, no. 329 00:14:34,874 --> 00:14:36,514 Speaker 1: Yeah, all these men, I'm going to say lovely because 330 00:14:36,514 --> 00:14:39,114 Speaker 1: I have interviewed some jerks, so they're not on the Joys, 331 00:14:39,114 --> 00:14:40,794 Speaker 1: They're not on the jerk list. They're just like a 332 00:14:40,794 --> 00:14:44,074 Speaker 1: bit kind of subdued an interview, which I get that, 333 00:14:44,114 --> 00:14:46,714 Speaker 1: we get it was exactly fine but lovely Joseph Quinn 334 00:14:46,754 --> 00:14:49,074 Speaker 1: don't come for me. Yeah, but again, like massive career 335 00:14:49,114 --> 00:14:51,234 Speaker 1: since then. But so he became Eddie, which was this 336 00:14:51,394 --> 00:14:53,514 Speaker 1: character that every single girl in the world who was 337 00:14:53,514 --> 00:14:55,354 Speaker 1: a stranger things fan fell in love with and really 338 00:14:55,394 --> 00:14:57,754 Speaker 1: blew up, like with the chrissy wake up nonsense. But 339 00:14:58,234 --> 00:15:00,034 Speaker 1: how he came into it was the fact that he 340 00:15:00,074 --> 00:15:02,834 Speaker 1: saw Chrissy, one of our first victims. In season four, 341 00:15:03,634 --> 00:15:06,474 Speaker 1: we really delved into like body horror, like next yeah, 342 00:15:06,914 --> 00:15:10,034 Speaker 1: like horrifying. It was so good, It was so incredibly 343 00:15:10,034 --> 00:15:12,954 Speaker 1: well done for the body horrogon right, so and just yeah. 344 00:15:13,234 --> 00:15:13,914 Speaker 2: So terrifying. 345 00:15:13,914 --> 00:15:15,714 Speaker 1: And the show has always obviously been scary, but it 346 00:15:16,074 --> 00:15:17,994 Speaker 1: was a different place for us, and so we tried 347 00:15:18,034 --> 00:15:20,434 Speaker 1: to essentially as fans, work out what the hell's going on? 348 00:15:20,634 --> 00:15:22,754 Speaker 1: This girl's just died, who's she, who's he? 349 00:15:22,794 --> 00:15:23,434 Speaker 2: What's happening? 350 00:15:23,914 --> 00:15:26,634 Speaker 1: And over the course of season four, I think they 351 00:15:26,634 --> 00:15:28,514 Speaker 1: did a really phenomenal job of it. But they brought 352 00:15:28,554 --> 00:15:31,954 Speaker 1: together a few central storylines that we'd been slowly getting towards. 353 00:15:32,114 --> 00:15:34,274 Speaker 1: So we went back in time and saw what happened 354 00:15:34,274 --> 00:15:36,114 Speaker 1: with eleven when she was in the lab when she 355 00:15:36,194 --> 00:15:38,994 Speaker 1: was younger, and we met this mysterious blonde man played 356 00:15:38,994 --> 00:15:42,594 Speaker 1: by Jamie Campbell Bauer and his name was Number one 357 00:15:42,674 --> 00:15:45,154 Speaker 1: and we didn't know who he was. And then we 358 00:15:45,154 --> 00:15:48,794 Speaker 1: were simultaneously investigating our journalist Nancy. She was going into like, 359 00:15:49,034 --> 00:15:51,474 Speaker 1: who is Henry Krele, what's this story about? How does 360 00:15:51,474 --> 00:15:53,834 Speaker 1: it link to everything? And then we've also got people 361 00:15:53,914 --> 00:15:56,074 Speaker 1: like Chrissy. We had a few other victims around town, 362 00:15:56,114 --> 00:15:59,234 Speaker 1: and eventually Max being taken to the upside Down by 363 00:15:59,234 --> 00:16:01,234 Speaker 1: this creepy man named Vecna who's trying to kill all 364 00:16:01,234 --> 00:16:01,714 Speaker 1: of them, and. 365 00:16:01,674 --> 00:16:03,274 Speaker 2: We're like, how does this all tie together? 366 00:16:03,714 --> 00:16:06,154 Speaker 1: And Season four culminates with us finding out that this 367 00:16:06,274 --> 00:16:09,714 Speaker 1: is all the same person, yeah, and that one is 368 00:16:10,074 --> 00:16:13,314 Speaker 1: Henry Creole and that he had been born with powers, 369 00:16:13,434 --> 00:16:16,154 Speaker 1: was sadistic, killed his family, was taken in by these 370 00:16:16,194 --> 00:16:18,474 Speaker 1: researchers and they used him to model all of their 371 00:16:18,554 --> 00:16:21,114 Speaker 1: numbers that they created, which is how Eleven was turned 372 00:16:21,114 --> 00:16:25,674 Speaker 1: into like the magical ethereal being with superpowers. And it 373 00:16:25,794 --> 00:16:28,234 Speaker 1: was Eleven who had banished him to the upside down, 374 00:16:28,474 --> 00:16:30,994 Speaker 1: and it turned out that by her doing that, so 375 00:16:31,074 --> 00:16:34,194 Speaker 1: he tricked her into releasing his powers. When he did, 376 00:16:34,234 --> 00:16:36,754 Speaker 1: he killed everyone who was in the Hawkens Lab, and 377 00:16:36,794 --> 00:16:39,394 Speaker 1: then she then banished him to the upside down, so 378 00:16:39,434 --> 00:16:41,874 Speaker 1: she created the portal. She's the one who sent him there, 379 00:16:41,914 --> 00:16:43,794 Speaker 1: and then he was sent there as this like disfigured 380 00:16:43,794 --> 00:16:46,514 Speaker 1: monster loss his powers, gained them back, and then that's 381 00:16:46,514 --> 00:16:50,354 Speaker 1: how he's been slowly like terrorizing the town and his 382 00:16:50,994 --> 00:16:53,714 Speaker 1: powers have been chatteled into things like the demic organs 383 00:16:53,794 --> 00:16:57,114 Speaker 1: like the mind flower got the so many monsters like 384 00:16:57,194 --> 00:17:00,634 Speaker 1: the mind Flawer, and he's now culminated all of this 385 00:17:00,874 --> 00:17:03,794 Speaker 1: into wanting to take over Hawkens. So he's picked his 386 00:17:03,874 --> 00:17:05,794 Speaker 1: four people as a way to like open a gate, 387 00:17:05,874 --> 00:17:08,914 Speaker 1: open a portal to get the other world underneath. So 388 00:17:08,954 --> 00:17:12,754 Speaker 1: it's a very it's really hard to explain. And then 389 00:17:13,074 --> 00:17:14,394 Speaker 1: Hopper was in Russia. 390 00:17:14,594 --> 00:17:15,914 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a side pop. 391 00:17:16,034 --> 00:17:18,234 Speaker 1: We had a Russian prison side plot, but it's very 392 00:17:18,314 --> 00:17:19,954 Speaker 1: much about this monster and how like it was all 393 00:17:19,994 --> 00:17:22,154 Speaker 1: of these big reveals and it brought together all of 394 00:17:22,194 --> 00:17:25,594 Speaker 1: these stories and where we ended was the gang all 395 00:17:25,834 --> 00:17:27,434 Speaker 1: you know, went to the upside down. There was this 396 00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:31,874 Speaker 1: really complicated, convoluted plan to kill Wechner and Nancy was 397 00:17:31,914 --> 00:17:33,834 Speaker 1: once again wielding a gun. We had a gun, we 398 00:17:33,834 --> 00:17:36,994 Speaker 1: had fire, we had everything. We tried to kill him 399 00:17:37,234 --> 00:17:40,234 Speaker 1: the gang like maybe we did. And at the very 400 00:17:40,354 --> 00:17:43,874 Speaker 1: end of season four, Will told Mike, I know he's 401 00:17:43,874 --> 00:17:45,914 Speaker 1: not dead, like I can feel him. We're back in 402 00:17:45,954 --> 00:17:49,434 Speaker 1: Hawkins because another side plot they'd gone to California. We're 403 00:17:49,474 --> 00:17:51,114 Speaker 1: back in Hawkins and he goes, I'm here, I can 404 00:17:51,154 --> 00:17:53,194 Speaker 1: feel him. I know he's not dead, he's biting his time, 405 00:17:53,234 --> 00:17:55,154 Speaker 1: and now I know how he thinks. And it's like, 406 00:17:55,514 --> 00:17:58,313 Speaker 1: now we're all terrified for will what's gonna happen? Then 407 00:17:58,354 --> 00:18:00,314 Speaker 1: the group will come out and there's some random shit 408 00:18:00,394 --> 00:18:02,514 Speaker 1: falling from this guy. Well yeah, it's like the upside 409 00:18:02,514 --> 00:18:05,034 Speaker 1: down is merging in the real world. And then also 410 00:18:05,114 --> 00:18:07,594 Speaker 1: Max is like in a coma from that homer from 411 00:18:07,594 --> 00:18:10,554 Speaker 1: her vecnortech. But so they saved Max in a way 412 00:18:10,634 --> 00:18:13,234 Speaker 1: by realizing that like music was her connector to the world, 413 00:18:13,234 --> 00:18:15,354 Speaker 1: and so they played obviously we all know, they played 414 00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:17,593 Speaker 1: Running Up That Hill by Cape Bush Cultural Women and 415 00:18:17,634 --> 00:18:19,314 Speaker 1: in such a beautiful way where they like really got 416 00:18:19,314 --> 00:18:21,594 Speaker 1: the stranger things violins in there. The like edit of 417 00:18:21,634 --> 00:18:24,474 Speaker 1: that song is fantastic. And so she's in a coma 418 00:18:24,474 --> 00:18:25,954 Speaker 1: and we don't know what's going to happen to her. 419 00:18:26,234 --> 00:18:28,754 Speaker 1: But essentially now all of Hawkins knows something's going on 420 00:18:28,874 --> 00:18:30,954 Speaker 1: because it's no longer just the gang. It's no longer 421 00:18:31,074 --> 00:18:32,914 Speaker 1: just like Copper and Joyce being in on the tee. 422 00:18:33,234 --> 00:18:35,794 Speaker 1: Everyone in town knows. So that's where we left off. Well, 423 00:18:35,794 --> 00:18:37,513 Speaker 1: first of all, well done. I find a lot to 424 00:18:37,674 --> 00:18:40,114 Speaker 1: everyone if I butchered that was That was a lot 425 00:18:40,154 --> 00:18:42,354 Speaker 1: to tell, So the stakes could not be higher now 426 00:18:42,474 --> 00:18:45,674 Speaker 1: coming into season five, which is the final season, we 427 00:18:45,674 --> 00:18:48,154 Speaker 1: should also say as well of Stranger Things. 428 00:18:48,234 --> 00:18:48,793 Speaker 2: So it's quite. 429 00:18:48,674 --> 00:18:50,474 Speaker 1: Emotional because we've watched a lot of these actors when 430 00:18:50,514 --> 00:18:53,474 Speaker 1: they were daily little kids to now being full blown adults. 431 00:18:53,914 --> 00:18:56,594 Speaker 2: So you interviewed a lot of. 432 00:18:56,514 --> 00:18:59,874 Speaker 1: The main cast members, and is any little tidbits you 433 00:18:59,914 --> 00:19:03,154 Speaker 1: can share from that to tell us about what we 434 00:19:03,154 --> 00:19:06,033 Speaker 1: can expect this new season. Yes, so I spoke with 435 00:19:06,274 --> 00:19:08,074 Speaker 1: I like to call them the Gang of teens, but 436 00:19:08,114 --> 00:19:08,994 Speaker 1: we're all thirty two. 437 00:19:10,594 --> 00:19:12,273 Speaker 2: But you know, actually Maya Hawk's not. 438 00:19:12,354 --> 00:19:12,434 Speaker 3: So. 439 00:19:12,474 --> 00:19:16,434 Speaker 1: I spoke with Joe Keary, who plays Steve Harrington. Oh, okay, 440 00:19:16,474 --> 00:19:18,874 Speaker 1: everyone's just in love with that man, and I'm so 441 00:19:18,954 --> 00:19:21,674 Speaker 1: happy about it. And I am too too. He's one 442 00:19:21,674 --> 00:19:24,634 Speaker 1: of my favorites, like the weedy guys, but I'm into him. 443 00:19:24,674 --> 00:19:26,994 Speaker 2: Oh he's so beautiful. I love him so much. So 444 00:19:27,034 --> 00:19:27,754 Speaker 2: I spoke to him. 445 00:19:27,954 --> 00:19:32,354 Speaker 1: Charlie Heaton, who plays Jonathan Byers, Fine, he's a lovely boy. 446 00:19:32,674 --> 00:19:34,914 Speaker 1: We spoke with Maya Hawk who plays Robin, and we 447 00:19:34,994 --> 00:19:37,954 Speaker 1: spoke with Natalia Dyer who plays Nancy. So we spoke 448 00:19:37,994 --> 00:19:41,154 Speaker 1: to all four of them. It was crazy. It was 449 00:19:41,274 --> 00:19:43,194 Speaker 1: at a nice casual nine am, So I actually quite 450 00:19:43,234 --> 00:19:44,714 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, so I got to wake up and 451 00:19:44,754 --> 00:19:46,994 Speaker 1: just like panic for hours and excited. And so we 452 00:19:47,034 --> 00:19:48,954 Speaker 1: spoke to them about the fact that obviously the show 453 00:19:49,034 --> 00:19:50,634 Speaker 1: is coming to an end, and I'd gotten to see 454 00:19:50,674 --> 00:19:52,754 Speaker 1: a few of the episodes before we spoke. But obviously 455 00:19:52,794 --> 00:19:54,634 Speaker 1: it's kind of a hard thing to ask people about 456 00:19:54,634 --> 00:19:57,513 Speaker 1: when you've got like a handful of minutes over zoom 457 00:19:57,514 --> 00:19:59,234 Speaker 1: and they're all in a chair and like the other 458 00:19:59,314 --> 00:20:01,834 Speaker 1: side of the world, like you know all about that obviously, 459 00:20:02,274 --> 00:20:04,274 Speaker 1: and you're just sitting in your house the most excited 460 00:20:04,314 --> 00:20:06,793 Speaker 1: you ever been, like ready to talk to them. So 461 00:20:06,834 --> 00:20:09,074 Speaker 1: the thing that I wanted to get their perspectives on is, like, 462 00:20:09,074 --> 00:20:11,594 Speaker 1: like you said, we've watched this show now for a decade, 463 00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:14,794 Speaker 1: and as much as they weren't the children children right 464 00:20:14,834 --> 00:20:16,674 Speaker 1: like they were the teens and then Maya joined in 465 00:20:16,714 --> 00:20:19,634 Speaker 1: season three, but they have grown up with this show 466 00:20:19,634 --> 00:20:21,513 Speaker 1: and it's been the thing that launched their careers and 467 00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:23,594 Speaker 1: it's been the thing that they've really given their time 468 00:20:23,634 --> 00:20:25,594 Speaker 1: to and I guess like a lot of years of 469 00:20:25,634 --> 00:20:27,793 Speaker 1: their lives because what we see is like, Okay, the 470 00:20:27,794 --> 00:20:29,914 Speaker 1: show's taken forever, but they've obviously gone into like the 471 00:20:29,914 --> 00:20:31,474 Speaker 1: script reading and then their film and then they come 472 00:20:31,474 --> 00:20:32,834 Speaker 1: out here and they do all their junkets and they 473 00:20:32,914 --> 00:20:34,793 Speaker 1: do everything. So I just spoke to them about how 474 00:20:34,794 --> 00:20:38,594 Speaker 1: they actually personally felt about their characters' storylines, because I 475 00:20:38,674 --> 00:20:40,513 Speaker 1: think when some of these big shows end, like you 476 00:20:40,554 --> 00:20:42,394 Speaker 1: see with like Amelia Clark and Game of Throats, she 477 00:20:42,434 --> 00:20:45,714 Speaker 1: was so unhappy with how her character ended. And we 478 00:20:45,794 --> 00:20:47,874 Speaker 1: obviously have a lot of fan theories floating around about 479 00:20:47,874 --> 00:20:50,833 Speaker 1: like who could die. People think Steve might die. Everyone 480 00:20:51,114 --> 00:20:54,154 Speaker 1: everyone Steve's gonna die that or Jonathan's gonna die, Like 481 00:20:54,194 --> 00:20:57,954 Speaker 1: they're like one of those boys dead as two boys 482 00:20:57,954 --> 00:21:00,194 Speaker 1: not walking out of there, two boys not living. So 483 00:21:00,194 --> 00:21:02,594 Speaker 1: obviously spoke to them about that, and Charlie Heaton said 484 00:21:02,594 --> 00:21:04,634 Speaker 1: that he felt really satisfied about the way that they 485 00:21:04,714 --> 00:21:06,434 Speaker 1: ended the show. He said, like he knows how hard 486 00:21:06,434 --> 00:21:09,274 Speaker 1: it is to type together, but that for so many 487 00:21:09,314 --> 00:21:11,834 Speaker 1: storylines and additions of like new characters and things that 488 00:21:11,834 --> 00:21:13,954 Speaker 1: were going on, that he just felt really satisfied about 489 00:21:13,954 --> 00:21:15,834 Speaker 1: the fact that they were able to end the show 490 00:21:15,954 --> 00:21:19,074 Speaker 1: in a way that felt like they wrapped it up perfectly. 491 00:21:19,794 --> 00:21:20,594 Speaker 2: My boy Steve. 492 00:21:22,154 --> 00:21:23,994 Speaker 1: Joe said that he just felt like Steve was really 493 00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:25,314 Speaker 1: in the thick of it, but that he was really 494 00:21:25,354 --> 00:21:27,714 Speaker 1: happy to see how the pressure of the circumstances had 495 00:21:27,754 --> 00:21:30,593 Speaker 1: started to boil over into Steve's life and how quickly 496 00:21:30,634 --> 00:21:32,634 Speaker 1: that all kicks off for him, and the fact that 497 00:21:32,834 --> 00:21:35,313 Speaker 1: we see him deal with some I guess more and 498 00:21:35,474 --> 00:21:37,874 Speaker 1: having seen the episodes like some more serious themes, as 499 00:21:37,954 --> 00:21:40,714 Speaker 1: always were always on those serious themes, but we start 500 00:21:40,754 --> 00:21:42,754 Speaker 1: to see it really grow in the tension and the 501 00:21:42,834 --> 00:21:47,754 Speaker 1: relationship between him and Dustin off the back of last season, 502 00:21:47,834 --> 00:21:50,834 Speaker 1: because obviously Dustin's feeling quite sad and emotional the loss 503 00:21:50,834 --> 00:21:53,273 Speaker 1: of Eddiemunson and so he's in a weird place. And 504 00:21:53,314 --> 00:21:56,033 Speaker 1: for Maya, she gave a really exciting insight, which is 505 00:21:56,074 --> 00:21:57,914 Speaker 1: that she got to act with some of her favorite 506 00:21:57,994 --> 00:22:00,273 Speaker 1: characters on the show who she's never shared scenes with before, 507 00:22:00,594 --> 00:22:02,114 Speaker 1: and she said it was really special and fun and 508 00:22:02,114 --> 00:22:03,994 Speaker 1: that the balance was cool because she got to feel 509 00:22:03,994 --> 00:22:05,634 Speaker 1: like Robin was a real part of the group. And 510 00:22:05,674 --> 00:22:07,714 Speaker 1: she said that as an actress, she also felt that, 511 00:22:07,794 --> 00:22:10,033 Speaker 1: like as Maya, she let go of the idea that 512 00:22:10,074 --> 00:22:12,154 Speaker 1: she was a new kid too, so both in character 513 00:22:12,154 --> 00:22:13,754 Speaker 1: and in person, she felt like on the set this 514 00:22:13,834 --> 00:22:16,634 Speaker 1: time around that she'd actually gotten to really be you 515 00:22:16,674 --> 00:22:18,354 Speaker 1: know what of the gang. Yeah, that was something that 516 00:22:18,394 --> 00:22:20,634 Speaker 1: was maybe missing for her in the earlier seasons. But 517 00:22:20,714 --> 00:22:22,434 Speaker 1: what we do know about the fact that she's like 518 00:22:22,594 --> 00:22:25,114 Speaker 1: getting to hang out with someone else is that that 519 00:22:25,194 --> 00:22:26,914 Speaker 1: person is going to be Will. 520 00:22:27,874 --> 00:22:28,474 Speaker 2: Ah. 521 00:22:28,514 --> 00:22:30,834 Speaker 1: So we've seen photos of them on set together, whether 522 00:22:30,914 --> 00:22:32,674 Speaker 1: or not you've kind of seen any of the episodes 523 00:22:32,714 --> 00:22:34,834 Speaker 1: yet now that they've dropped, like, we know that they're 524 00:22:34,874 --> 00:22:36,674 Speaker 1: hanging out a lot together, and we know that Robin 525 00:22:36,794 --> 00:22:38,794 Speaker 1: is a gay character. And we also know that many 526 00:22:38,834 --> 00:22:41,954 Speaker 1: of the theories and speculations are that this season is 527 00:22:41,954 --> 00:22:43,474 Speaker 1: going to have a lot to do with the idea 528 00:22:43,474 --> 00:22:46,114 Speaker 1: of Will struggling with his sexuality, right and the fact 529 00:22:46,114 --> 00:22:47,674 Speaker 1: that he does have a very big crush on his 530 00:22:47,714 --> 00:22:50,594 Speaker 1: best friend Mike. Yes, yes, because that's been like seeded 531 00:22:50,634 --> 00:22:53,074 Speaker 1: through the seasons, and so like Robin could die into that. 532 00:22:53,474 --> 00:22:55,874 Speaker 2: Oh so interesting. So many personal stakes and life or 533 00:22:55,954 --> 00:22:56,634 Speaker 2: death stakes there. 534 00:22:56,674 --> 00:22:57,074 Speaker 5: Yeah. 535 00:22:57,114 --> 00:22:59,114 Speaker 1: Okay, So to finish up, I just want to ask you, 536 00:22:59,154 --> 00:23:02,554 Speaker 1: so you're a Stranger Things super fan, you have now 537 00:23:02,594 --> 00:23:04,474 Speaker 1: watched the first lot of the new episodes a couple 538 00:23:04,514 --> 00:23:05,874 Speaker 1: of times because you want to walk to him early. 539 00:23:06,434 --> 00:23:09,874 Speaker 1: You're very spoiler free, but it's hard. I almost like 540 00:23:10,234 --> 00:23:14,314 Speaker 1: a little brilli honest of you, quick rapid fire like thoughts, opinions, vibes. 541 00:23:14,354 --> 00:23:17,114 Speaker 1: What do the people need to know? Okay? I understand 542 00:23:17,114 --> 00:23:18,754 Speaker 1: that a lot of people who were really big fans 543 00:23:18,754 --> 00:23:21,754 Speaker 1: of season one it was so tonally different, right, like, 544 00:23:21,794 --> 00:23:24,154 Speaker 1: it couldn't have been possible for them to keep that going. 545 00:23:24,274 --> 00:23:25,274 Speaker 2: What I will. 546 00:23:25,074 --> 00:23:27,474 Speaker 1: Say is that the Duffer brothers have said they never 547 00:23:27,554 --> 00:23:30,073 Speaker 1: really knew with season one where it would get to, right, 548 00:23:30,114 --> 00:23:31,914 Speaker 1: They didn't know how big it could possibly get, because 549 00:23:31,954 --> 00:23:33,553 Speaker 1: you couldn't. It was an indie project. It they'd been 550 00:23:33,554 --> 00:23:36,833 Speaker 1: rejected a bunch of times. Netflix finally picked it up 551 00:23:36,834 --> 00:23:39,394 Speaker 1: with Shorn Leeby's buy in, and so they had a 552 00:23:39,474 --> 00:23:41,394 Speaker 1: vision of what they wanted the end to be, but 553 00:23:41,434 --> 00:23:43,353 Speaker 1: they didn't have all the parts worked out. And they 554 00:23:43,354 --> 00:23:46,074 Speaker 1: said they have worked so hard to ensure that in 555 00:23:46,154 --> 00:23:49,354 Speaker 1: season five they wrap everything up properly, that there's nothing 556 00:23:49,394 --> 00:23:51,954 Speaker 1: missed that they don't turn around and go we never 557 00:23:51,994 --> 00:23:54,313 Speaker 1: addressed why this thing happened or why this thing happened, 558 00:23:54,354 --> 00:23:56,594 Speaker 1: so they said a round. Season two, they really started 559 00:23:56,594 --> 00:23:58,353 Speaker 1: to figure out where it was going. And what I 560 00:23:58,354 --> 00:24:00,553 Speaker 1: feel about the episodes that I've seen so far is like, 561 00:24:01,114 --> 00:24:03,674 Speaker 1: I'm just so impressed. I'm so impressed by how we've 562 00:24:03,674 --> 00:24:07,793 Speaker 1: tied together different topics that I can't talk of. The 563 00:24:07,914 --> 00:24:10,514 Speaker 1: scale is massive. It's unlike anything we've seen them do before. 564 00:24:10,554 --> 00:24:12,194 Speaker 1: And I know that some people who, yeah, like I 565 00:24:12,234 --> 00:24:14,634 Speaker 1: was saying, enjoyed season one, don't like how big and 566 00:24:14,674 --> 00:24:16,594 Speaker 1: grand it got. That like it no longer felt like, 567 00:24:16,594 --> 00:24:18,353 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of kids on their bikes out 568 00:24:18,394 --> 00:24:20,553 Speaker 1: running a monster and you know, playing D and D 569 00:24:20,634 --> 00:24:22,634 Speaker 1: in the basement, and that that's what so many people 570 00:24:22,714 --> 00:24:25,074 Speaker 1: loved about it. But the scale of this one is 571 00:24:25,114 --> 00:24:28,154 Speaker 1: just enormous. I think the cgi A budget didn't exist. 572 00:24:28,314 --> 00:24:30,154 Speaker 1: I just think they went go for gold. I think 573 00:24:30,274 --> 00:24:32,114 Speaker 1: the practical effects are fantastic. 574 00:24:32,394 --> 00:24:32,594 Speaker 3: Good. 575 00:24:32,794 --> 00:24:35,513 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're really seeing amazing storylines for everyone. 576 00:24:35,594 --> 00:24:37,354 Speaker 1: The pacing is a little difficult when you've got this 577 00:24:37,514 --> 00:24:40,154 Speaker 1: many main characters and this many main plot lines, but 578 00:24:40,194 --> 00:24:43,434 Speaker 1: it's so entertaining, and I will say that we're really 579 00:24:43,434 --> 00:24:47,074 Speaker 1: going to dive into the characters traumas this season. The 580 00:24:47,154 --> 00:24:50,714 Speaker 1: horror is fantastic. I think you major horror fans are 581 00:24:50,714 --> 00:24:52,634 Speaker 1: going to be wowed by some of the things that 582 00:24:52,634 --> 00:24:55,034 Speaker 1: have happened. None of us have seen the next part 583 00:24:55,074 --> 00:24:56,833 Speaker 1: and the big grand finale, but I really think they 584 00:24:56,834 --> 00:24:58,714 Speaker 1: are on the right track to absolutely nail the landing. 585 00:24:58,994 --> 00:25:01,314 Speaker 1: So the first four episodes, which is Part one, are 586 00:25:01,354 --> 00:25:04,594 Speaker 1: out on Netflix now. Then we're getting the next three, 587 00:25:04,674 --> 00:25:07,273 Speaker 1: which is in Part two, on Charismas Day, which the 588 00:25:07,314 --> 00:25:10,114 Speaker 1: cast we're like, good luck with that, and then we 589 00:25:10,154 --> 00:25:12,434 Speaker 1: are getting the finale on New Year's Eve, and they're 590 00:25:12,474 --> 00:25:15,114 Speaker 1: doing cinematic releases in some parts of the world as 591 00:25:15,114 --> 00:25:16,234 Speaker 1: well as a Netflix stop. 592 00:25:16,394 --> 00:25:19,154 Speaker 2: Okay love that. Well, yes, strange things dive in this 593 00:25:19,194 --> 00:25:20,793 Speaker 2: Weekend kids. There's your full review. 594 00:25:21,114 --> 00:25:22,994 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for listening to this special 595 00:25:22,994 --> 00:25:25,394 Speaker 1: episode of Weekend Watch. Thank you Tina for coming and 596 00:25:25,434 --> 00:25:28,874 Speaker 1: sharing all your fandom and celebrity connections. And we will 597 00:25:28,914 --> 00:25:31,434 Speaker 1: be back in your feed at three pm this afternoon 598 00:25:31,874 --> 00:25:34,874 Speaker 1: for one of the most important episodes. 599 00:25:34,354 --> 00:25:35,634 Speaker 2: Of the year that we have released. 600 00:25:35,674 --> 00:25:38,874 Speaker 1: It is our brutally honest review of Wicked for good 601 00:25:39,394 --> 00:25:42,194 Speaker 1: M's back and we say some things we probably shouldn't 602 00:25:42,194 --> 00:25:44,434 Speaker 1: have recorded, but it gets deep, it gets emotional, so 603 00:25:44,754 --> 00:25:47,273 Speaker 1: be looking for that in your feed at three pm today. 604 00:25:47,554 --> 00:25:50,354 Speaker 1: The Spill is produced by Minishi Esworm with sound production 605 00:25:50,434 --> 00:25:52,994 Speaker 1: by Scott Stronik. 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