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Speaker 3: The Quickie.

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Speaker 2: Australia might be known for sunshine, beaches and relax statitude,

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Speaker 2: but new data reveals some places are buckling under the

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Speaker 2: weight of anxiety. So where is Australia's most anxious city

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Speaker 2: and what's really going on there? Before we get there,

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Speaker 2: here's Clare Murphy with the latest from the Quickie newsroom

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Speaker 2: for Monday, October thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. The deal to release the final remaining hostages

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Speaker 1: two year war in the region appears to be coming.

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Speaker 3: To a close.

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Speaker 1: As part of the Donald Trump broke and cease fire deal,

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Speaker 1: HAMAS is due to release twenty live hostages held in

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Speaker 1: Gaza today. The bodies of twenty eight others are also

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Speaker 1: expected to be handed over, but a search may be

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Speaker 1: required to locate the bodies of those hostages who may

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Speaker 1: remain trapped under the rubble. Israel In Exchange will release

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Speaker 1: around two thousand Palestinians, including senior militants and those held

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Speaker 1: without charge under what is known as administrative detention. Israel

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Speaker 1: launched the military offensive on Gaza, which killed more than

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Speaker 1: with more than two hundred and fifty hostages taken. One

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Speaker 1: of those killed was Australian citizen Galic Carbone, whose brother

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Speaker 1: Danny Masnia, paid tribute to her late Sunday individual organized

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Speaker 1: by several Jewish groups in Sydney with thousands in attendance. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: hundreds of AID trucks have begun entering the Gaza Strip

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Speaker 1: from Egypt, bringing much needed food, water, shelter and medical

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Speaker 1: supplies to a population who've been left on the brink

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Speaker 1: of starvation. Millions of Australians have been cautioned not to

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Speaker 1: fall for bogus Quantus compensation claims after having their personal

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Speaker 1: information leaked online. The airline was one of six global

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Speaker 1: companies to have their data released at the weekend after

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Speaker 1: hackers made good on a ransom threat. Five point seven

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Speaker 1: million Quantas customers had their data compromise from one of

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Speaker 1: its offshore call centers that used Salesforce software. The details

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Speaker 1: accessed include full names, email addresses, and frequent fly details,

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Speaker 1: as well as business and home addresses, dates of birth,

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Speaker 1: phone numbers and gender. The data could potentially be used

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Speaker 1: for identity theft attacks, as it gives hackers more points

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Speaker 1: of verification. According to reports from UK media, Prince Andrew

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Speaker 1: February twenty eight, twenty eleven, the day after the well

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Speaker 1: friendship with Epstein in December twenty ten. To the Papers,

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Speaker 1: the Prince wrote in the message, I'm just as concerned

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Speaker 1: his public role in twenty nineteen amid the furor over

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Speaker 1: his friendship with the convicted billionaire pedophile. He later paid

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Speaker 1: who was trafficked by Epstein as a teenager, and who

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Speaker 1: Andrew claimed never to have met. Friends of actress Diane Keaton,

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Speaker 2: Unpacking anxiety across Australia. When it comes to picturing life

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Speaker 2: down under, the story we often sell ourselves is pretty dreamy,

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Speaker 2: anxiety and stress. A study based on anxiety related search

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Speaker 2: data ranked the Central Coast of New South Wales as

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Speaker 2: four point one two out of one hundred for work anxiety.

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Speaker 2: On average, there are nine hundred and fifty seven anxiety

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Speaker 2: way above the national average, so what's going on. Well,

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Speaker 2: it turns out it's not just the big capitals feeling

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Speaker 2: the pressure. Regional and commuter hubs places like the Central Coast.

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Speaker 2: New South Wales are outpacing even Sydney and Melbourne when

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Speaker 2: it comes to searches about anxiety. Those three places, by

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Speaker 2: Look to put a bit of context around this. Doctors

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Speaker 2: health reasons as a top factor in patient representations. That's

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Speaker 2: up ten percent since the survey began eight years ago.

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Speaker 3: The pressures are real, all adding up.

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Speaker 2: Life might look idyllic from the outside, but for many

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Speaker 2: so do the challenges. Longer commutes, more competition for jobs,

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Speaker 2: the capital cities like Sydney and Melbourne do feature on

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Speaker 2: the anxiety rankings, the daily grind of regional living is

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Speaker 2: topped by places like Ballarat and Victoria and Rockhampton in Queensland. Bendigo,

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Speaker 2: Bendigo put the call out for a separate mental health

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Speaker 2: Belinda Preston is a clinical psychologist base there. Belinda the

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Speaker 2: Central Coast has topped this list of our most anxious Aussies.

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Speaker 2: Does that ring true to what you're seeing in clinic?

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Speaker 4: Definitely. We're very busy as health professionals just trying to

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Speaker 2: There's this common trend that during the height of COVID

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Speaker 2: Do these kind of new figures, this new list of

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Speaker 2: where the most anxious places in Australia are, Does that

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Speaker 2: research suggest that we're seeing a continuation since the pandemic

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Speaker 4: I think the pandemic actually brought out people's mental health problems,

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Speaker 4: domestic violence rate increased. And then I think after the pandemic,

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Speaker 4: people are still suffering, whether they're able to get in

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Speaker 2: Butlinda, you're a local to the Central Coast, You've lived

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Speaker 2: there for quite a long time now, Yes, what can

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Speaker 2: experiencing anxiety more so in your neck.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a beautiful place to live, and as

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Speaker 4: we find the work life balance can be quite difficult

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Speaker 2: Because you've lived there for quite a while now, Belinda,

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Speaker 4: There's definitely not a decline of mental health. I think

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Speaker 2: What's contributing to people's mental health? And I guess that

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Speaker 3: Those living in regional areas.

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Speaker 2: We saw that surprisingly this list that's come out, the

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Speaker 4: Yes, so I finished my internship actually living out at

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Speaker 4: that people come to the Central Coast for the lifestyle,

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Speaker 4: I think then people struggling with their work life balance,

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Speaker 4: A lot of them can't get employed on the Central

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Speaker 4: may be flying in, flying out, doing a lot of

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Speaker 4: think that drops people's quality of life. They're not around

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Speaker 4: their families as much. Mental health is affecting everywhere in Australia.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting that the coast areas just outside of Sydney,

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Speaker 4: like Woollongong and Central Coast are actually suffering the most.

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Speaker 2: You touched on something really interesting there. And maybe something

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Speaker 2: that people do sometimes forget or maybe take for granted

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Speaker 2: is when you move out of an area where you've

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Speaker 2: It sounds like that might be a contributing factor as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think definitely, And like people might have further

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Speaker 4: distances to travel to families, so they might not have

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Speaker 4: but yes, they're leaving families that might be in Sydney

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Speaker 2: Regardless of where people might live in Australia, Belinda, if

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Speaker 2: But if someone listening right now is thinking I am

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Speaker 4: I think the first step is to engage with a GP.

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Speaker 4: If you don't have a general practicing doctor, that you

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Speaker 4: have a long standing history with I would definitely encourage

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Speaker 4: and recommend that people find support from a really good doctor.

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Speaker 4: Doctors are then likely going to refer out to people

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Speaker 4: like me as registered psychologists or other allied health professionals

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Speaker 4: on the mental Health Care Plan, which the government has

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Speaker 4: ten Medicare rebates that you can receive per calendar year

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Speaker 3: But to get into your.

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Speaker 4: Question more, I think on a personal basis, to get

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Speaker 4: eat three healthy meals a day. Mindfulness, a lot of

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Speaker 4: people think is just breathing, but to actually do deep

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Speaker 4: looping over and over in your head. Try and lay

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Speaker 4: has some great free read resources, and just letting go

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Speaker 4: are things that I actually do myself to manage to

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Speaker 4: the support to others as a psychologist.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with

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Speaker 2: us today. Look if this conversation has stirred up any

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