WEBVTT - Amy Shark: “There’s No Way I Should’ve Made It” 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 I'm like not a woo woo kind of person, but 0:00:03.360 --> 0:00:07.040 I really truly believe that the universe has got a plan, 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:08.799 because there's no way I should be here. 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:11.200 There's no way I should have made it. 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:17.680 Amy Shark has spent almost twenty years making music. Long 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:21.080 before the ARIA awards, the number one albums and sold 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.640 out tours, there were years of day jobs, cover gigs, 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:30.520 unanswered demos, and wondering whether it was finally time to 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:35.320 give up. When a door changed everything, it looked like 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:41.040 the fairytale ending, but success brought its own challenges. After 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:44.919 years of relentless touring, writing, promoting, and always being on, 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:51.040 Amy found herself completely burnt out. Now with her fourth album, 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.320 Soft Pop, she says she's fallen in love with making 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:58.160 music again. In this conversation, Amy talks about growing up 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:03.400 on the Gold Coast, losing her precious grandmother, fame versus reality, 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.600 being married to her manager, and what it took to 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.360 find her way back to the thing she'd loved since 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:11.320 she was a little girl. 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:18.880 This is Amy Shark. Where have you been today? Amy? 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:19.880 Where? 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:22.280 Oh, where haven't I been? 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:22.760 I've been? 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.080 What you're doing? What do you do on a day 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:25.760 like today? 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:30.479 Well, today was just I mean, this last month has 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.600 just been pumped full of talking about this. 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:35.000 Record, your new album. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:41.920 Yeah, and I think like now it's so people have 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:46.680 so much happening that it's not it's hard to get 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.120 eyes on your project no matter who you are or 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.280 what you're doing, Like, it doesn't matter even if you're 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:54.680 a big dog like in the States or whatever. It's 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.440 like you have to just like if it's something you 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.520 want eyes on and you're proud of, I feel like 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:05.600 you have to go so much more extra now, right, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.840 is exhausting, But it's also that's why you have to 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:10.960 make sure you love what you've created and what you're 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:15.639 talking about well, because also I think you're so much 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.200 a part of the landscape in Australia. Amy Shark, by 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.120 the way, welcome to No Filter. 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.799 Thank you. We just ripped into it. That's right. 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.760 We were talking before about trying to make a splash. Yes, 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.120 you want your projects to be brought to the attention 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:35.280 of people, but there also is I think a tendency 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.560 in Australia. Maybe it's around the world, but it seems 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.200 to be an Australian thing that if you're a part 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.919 of the landscape which you have been, and it feels 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.360 that you have been longer than I think you actually 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:46.880 have been. 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:52.519 Yeah, Adoor is Adoor was ten years ago. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.440 Yeah, ten years ago this month, and I would say 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.560 it feels longer because it feels so familiar and like 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.640 it's just been a part of like so many people's soundtracks. 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:07.000 Yeah, it's crazy. I feel two things. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.600 I feel like it was yesterday because obviously it was 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.160 such a pivotal time in my life, and I, for 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:17.040 some reason, can remember my old life so well. But 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.640 then but then when I look at it, it feels 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:21.680 like an eternity. It feels like I've just done this 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.360 my whole life. So it's a real split feeling. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.280 When you say you remember your old life here, what 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.800 part of your old life do you remember, like childhood 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:40.200 or working more mean, yeah, we like ba before a 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:41.400 door is what we call it. 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:47.560 Just pedestrian life in nine to five job, get home, 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:51.640 have dinner, do the same thing the next day, talk 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:55.800 to the girls at work, have things booked in the calendar, 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:56.720 like a holiday. 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.960 Okay, you know what I mean, Like where there was 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.480 a normalitine Yeah, yeah. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:07.800 Yeah, I remember it very well, and I think it's 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.400 the one thing I miss a lot, Like. 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:20.520 But you were striving then to get somewhere with your music, 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:24.599 which I imagine is you want people to hear it. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:26.960 Yeah, I think, I mean. 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:33.600 I everything could stop tomorrow, and for me to have 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:35.839 an audience was all I wanted, Like. 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:39.440 To think I was. 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.160 So addicted to it back then, for nobody like eleven 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:47.760 people on MySpace, and then to think that, oh no, 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.240 no matter what I do now, for the rest of 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.280 my career, I will have I will have a pocket 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:58.039 of people interested in what I do. And that's incredible feeling. 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:01.800 But sometimes that feeling it's not enough to carry you. 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.800 Yeah, I get I have been through that. 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.240 I went through that at the beginning of my career 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.200 where I was like, Okay, I've done that, so now 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:12.839 I want to do this. I've played this, so now 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.880 I want bigger and I've done this, so now I 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:18.599 want bigger And then and then you fall apart, and 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:22.920 then you I just randomly, just one day so freaking 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:27.600 grateful for the life you have. And it's I don't know, 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:32.159 it's funny. It's just like you have to really go 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.200 through it and you never can predict what's going to 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.640 happen to you, and you never can predict how you're 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.600 going to be mentally through the whole, you know, adventure 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.000 of being an artist. 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:48.000 Correct, and especially because I was thinking about you, You 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.680 don't have the insulation of being in a band. 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.400 There's not like other pillars that you can lean on. 0:05:55.400 --> 0:06:00.920 All of the grind comes and all of the artistry 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:05.440 comes from you. Yes, like that takes a big engine. Yeah, 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:08.560 did you always have the big engine? Like when you 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.960 were little? When you were when you were little, where 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.479 did you first recognize that you had that? 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:22.480 Uh? I think it was a lot of my grandparents. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:25.800 Like I had three NaN's, you know, I had my 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:30.360 mom's mom, my dad's mom, and then my stepdad's mom, 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:35.200 and they were all so encouraging and like I was 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:38.080 a bit of a character, hey, because like I loved 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.200 acting and I loved movies and I could remember scripts 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.159 like that, you know, and I could do voices and 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.960 I would I don't know, And also spend a lot 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.520 of time on my own growing up because mom dad 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:52.200 had to work, and. 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.000 Your parents were really young when they had you. 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:59.400 Yeah, they were like nineteen, right, and they didn't want 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.160 me just living with my nan because I think my 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:03.680 mom thought she would never give me back if I 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.840 just stayed with her. So I was in kindy like 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.960 as a baby. So I've been forced to like be 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.560 a people person since I was like born, you know, 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.560 like be around people and read rooms and reading. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:20.720 Situations and yeah, like just yeah, so yeah, do. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.320 You think that was innate in you or do you 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.880 think it's something that you developed through circumstance. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:33.520 That's a good question. I don't know. I think I 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.119 know my mom definitely isn't. 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.440 She's just like not a confident person, Like she can't 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:45.280 even handle what I do for a job. Like my dad, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.800 from what I know, can and from what I remember, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:56.040 is quite confident person. So probably from him, but yeah, 0:07:56.160 --> 0:08:00.520 probably also just just. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.600 Being a lone ranger and just like working it out 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:03.120 on my own. 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.840 I think that if this has got to happen, I'm 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:07.880 going to have to make it happen. 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:08.720 Yeah. Yeah. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:10.720 I was talking to someone the other day about playing 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.640 guitar and they're like, oh, like, you know, getting lessons 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:15.040 or whatever. 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.080 It's like I did get lessons, but not many. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.520 But if it really was up to me to get 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.000 good at guitar because I didn't have parents being like 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.840 go and practice your guitar. It was more like I 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:27.920 don't know why you're wasting your time on guitar, like 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.520 go and read or go and like you know, learn something. 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:36.719 And but you had that drive. Yeah, yeah, I was 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:39.560 just addicted to playing guitar. Who was musical in your family? 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:43.400 No one, none of the nana's no my my name 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.200 used to like sing like badly, I think, just to 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:50.600 make us laugh. But like Oper was this winny that 0:08:50.840 --> 0:08:54.400 was your mom's yes, mom. Yeah, and she kind of 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.960 showed me all the classics, like all the like Rogers 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:01.880 and Hammerstein and like Singing in the Rain and h Yeah, 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:05.200 I learned a lot just from the movies she would 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:06.640 show me as a kid. 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.640 And then along the way that has informed a lot 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.960 of your music, which is really interesting. The duet that 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.560 you did with Keith Urban, the Love Songs one so 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:27.800 beautiful and so almost otherworldly of another time. Yeah, that's intrigued. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:31.080 I can think mister Sharon for some of those chords. Yeah, 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.360 and he knows that classics. Yeah right, he's really into 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.160 that as well. Yeah, he just knows how to make 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:38.760 that sound. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.280 But so when you were little and so you're growing 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:47.680 up you're on the gold host. What was your family 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:51.680 structure like because your dad wasn't around or he left 0:09:51.720 --> 0:09:55.440 when you were pretty little. Yeah, it's so I did 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:56.920 not know this about you, by the way. 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.080 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like it actually was 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:07.040 me and my dad at the start, and the timing 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.200 like the it's it's such a hard thing to work out. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:14.480 But basically I was with my dad and my name 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.800 his mom. She was so young when they had me, 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.400 so and mom wasn't in the best way and like 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.080 so yeah, so I was living with my dad and 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.840 then he got remarried blah blah blah, a lot. 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:32.680 Of stuff that family get into. 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.760 But and then my mom we went up having to 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.000 go to court side like a lawyer at the age 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:42.080 of like nine really, and then I went and lived 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:47.520 with my mom and my stepdad and but but through 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.600 all that time I was spending a lot of time 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:50.840 with my nan as well with Winnie. 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.079 So she was like your norse. 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:57.319 She's yeah, just the pillar through the whole, through my 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:00.960 whole life. Thank God for that, I know. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:05.600 I know, so I I see it as lucky now. 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.240 I used to think, oh, man, like I really bombed 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:12.520 out with my situation sometimes, you know, when you're looking 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:13.040 your wounds. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.240 But I'm so lucky that I had her. Yeah. 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:19.600 And then when you so, at what point did music 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:26.080 become like your other constant? It was it was high school. 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.280 I wasn't. Yeah, I was pretty late to it. 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:33.520 Well, I mean I was in an era where if 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.320 you didn't sound like Mariah Carey or you know, like 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.760 I went to primary school with Ricky Lee, yeah, and 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:45.320 high school. But she was a year above me. So 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:49.880 when I heard her voice, I was like, I don't 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.560 sound like that. I cannot sound like that. Did she 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:53.199 sing at school? 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:53.800 Yeah? 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.000 So you heard her yeah, and it was like it 0:11:57.040 --> 0:11:58.719 was like whoa man? Like it was. 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:02.400 It was crazy, so like at a school concert or yeah, 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.480 like you just do the musicals and stuff like that. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:08.760 And for me, I was just like, man, imagine having 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.199 a voice like that. And then and in my young 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.120 little head, I was like, oh, I wasn't born with that, 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.359 like you know, even people when I watch them play guitar. 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.120 I was like, oh, I'm not. 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:22.080 It's funny because in my head I still to this 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.400 day believe you're born with a voice. I don't think 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.319 you can. Actually, I don't know if you could actually 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:27.880 learn that. 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.280 I am so happy to hear you say that, because 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.760 a lot of singers say anyone can. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:36.400 Say anyone can play guitar, you can practice your ass 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:39.640 off and you can become a shredder, right, But I 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.120 don't believe that with singing. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:45.559 I think you are born with something. But your voice 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.319 has not been a shortcoming of yours. 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:54.080 I just have learned to work with what I have, right, 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.000 Like it's just more of a medium for me. My 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:01.720 voice is like I don't get me wrong, Like I 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.320 know how to convey an emotion now and I know 0:13:05.400 --> 0:13:08.120 how to use it, but I'm not like a you know, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.320 I can't do it kinds of runs and stuff like that. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.680 Okay, so I just work with what I have. But 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:17.760 even so, I remember once again the Keith Urban song. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.439 How different your voice sounded in that? Yeah, it sounded 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:25.400 like to me as a punter. I was working commercial radio, 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:30.040 so I've heard a lot of your voice sounded really different. Yeah, 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.840 that was ed. Ed made me go right up and 0:13:32.920 --> 0:13:37.480 I really didn't want to. And how do you do that? Like, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.000 what's that process? 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:43.480 Well, I go to my comfort zone, which was card 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:46.280 in the moment, and it's like what about like card 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:46.880 in the mall. 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.040 And I was like, oh. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.720 Man, and then just I can do it totally fine 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:57.920 now because I've done it like a million times on tour. 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:01.840 But at the start I was like I can't do that, 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.880 and he's like, can you just did it? 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:04.440 So just do it? 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:04.960 Do it again. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.880 And then it's so funny now that it's just like, yeah, 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:12.520 I can actually get there perfectly fine now. 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:17.480 So it's crazy and Amy Shark, what did that teach you? Yeah, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.800 but it's still within my talents, you know what I mean, Like, 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:25.480 it's still I can get there, but I don't you 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.920 know what I mean. It's not gonna I'm never just 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.560 gonna sound like Guy Sebastian or Rikili or just now 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.680 boy you know what I mean, or Delta. It's like 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:38.600 that though that style isn't isn't me, which is why 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.640 I was so lucky that I got into alternative music, 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:45.920 because if I didn't listen to Silverchair and put that 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:48.840 together like in a minute, yeah, it doesn't tell it 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.200 and you realize then yeah, there was a moment where 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:56.200 you went, oh, I can do what exists in me. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.600 Yeah, Well, I just was hearing things on the radio 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.800 and song I liked. I was like, this is cool, 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:03.880 Like I love the sound of this, and even alanas 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.600 I was like, well that's a different voice. And I 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.840 think that subconsciously was like a bit of a yeah. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.360 The penny kind of dropped like oh okay, maybe yeah. 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:16.680 I don't know, there's different voices out there. 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.760 It's interesting, though, because a lot of people grow up 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.360 and have a dream or want to do something. But 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:29.440 I think there's something in the person that goes, I'm 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:33.200 going to do this. What was the moment for you 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:37.040 where you went this is the thing for me? 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.680 Can you remember? Like is that a critical defining moment? 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.640 Do you know what It's weird is I never felt 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.080 that I just loved writing songs. I don't think I 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.920 ever because I always had jobs, because I never I 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.160 didn't grow up with parents going you can do whatever 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:54.200 you want. Believe in yourself, you can do it, go 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.680 reach for the stars. It was like, hey, I don't 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.000 know what you're thinking, but you need to get either 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:03.000 get a job or go to you. So it wasn't 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.240 in my blood to think that big. 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.080 It just wasn't, you know. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.000 So I was always I was always focused on where 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.920 my money is going to come from to pay bill 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:17.360 to survive. You know, I was just being I've always 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.360 been a realist, Like I've always been, like, you know, 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.800 not not much of a dreamer. Obviously the dreams were there, 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.720 but it was like pretty suppressed. All I knew was 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:29.960 I love this. I love what I'm doing right now 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:33.920 in my bedroom making this sound and challenging myself and 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:39.120 like and coming out with weird and wacky words that 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:43.840 go with this guitar, right, and then carry a feeling, Yeah, 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:45.480 that carry a feeling. And then I had I was 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.560 in this girl band, and I love the feeling of 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:47.960 this band. 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.360 Like it was just like loud and we punky. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.360 Yeah, it was super punky. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:57.600 And and it was just like the most purest fun 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.240 I don't believe that. Like we joked around like, oh, 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.000 we're the big spand in the world, but I don't 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.199 think anyone cared to be. I don't think any of 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.800 us really were like, oh, it's like we'll get this 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:09.719 done and then we've got to get a manager. Like 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.160 we just honestly really loved the sound of our own ship, 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.679 just like this is so sick. It wasn't until I 0:17:16.680 --> 0:17:19.960 met Shane that he was like you, You're like really good, 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.359 Like you should I don't know, you should book some 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:25.080 gigs or something like, And like. 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.000 Where did you meet him? 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.520 He was in our friend group, ah with the girl 0:17:33.600 --> 0:17:37.359 band group or like we kind of yeah, he was 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:38.560 Gold Coast boy as well. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.600 Yes, yeah, yeah he was. 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:46.520 He was dating my friend's older sister, which we really 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:50.639 don't have to hang on. 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.640 Is it going to be an Amy Sharks game. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.879 I've already I've already three albums four albums out of 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:57.879 this story, so it's okay. 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.360 And then you, but there was obvious see connection and 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:07.879 he saw something that's interesting because aside from an attraction 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:13.600 to you, he saw the music in you. 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.600 Yeah, oh that's amazing. 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:20.159 Yeah it really was. Yeah, before you really even recognized 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.680 it as a vital force in yourself. 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.080 Yeah, it took someone like him, you know, I was 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:28.439 three years older. It was like this, you know, cool dude, 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.560 had great taste in music and had a car and 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:35.600 like and everyone loves Shane. Yeah yeah, and to have 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.680 someone like him at the time listen to this CD 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.600 I must have given to him or he got somehow 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.120 and be like, oh no, I like it. I think 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:49.760 this is a good song. You know, I can't believe 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.800 you wrote this, like you know, what do you mean 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.119 you wrote wrote this? Like he even he was like what, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:59.320 So that's all I really needed to be like, oh, okay, 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.280 maybe I'll keep going like because that that obviously, that's 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.240 a nice feeling. Anyone would love that feeling, Yeah, of 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:06.520 someone saying something is good. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.840 You're listening to no filter more with Amy Shark in 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:18.640 just a moment. It's very hard to when you've done 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:24.080 something artistically to present it to someone else, like it's 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:28.480 a very exposing Yeah, it's it's a form of nudity. 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:29.680 It's soul nudity. 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.960 Uh huh. And to have someone go, oh my god, 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:35.840 you're naked and beautiful is incredible. 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:37.520 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:40.800 So and that was necessary like that for me to 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.920 keep going because like I like. 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.760 I remember putting our band on at home. 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:51.439 I just and I don't blame her because it was 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.119 just a different time and you know, my mom was 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.840 like obviously trying to work, and you know, but I 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.359 just remember her coming home like, oh, turn that off. 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:02.320 You know, god, what is that? 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.280 And I and if she only knew just how. 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.240 Much I remember that, And. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:12.639 But you know, God, I look back now, and I'm like, 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.639 people are just going through it and to have kids 0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.440 and to do you know, so you know, God knows 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:21.399 what she was probably going through that day and not 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:27.720 much more than a child herself. Really, yeah exactly, but 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.480 that's full on. Yeah yeah, going through chat with my 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:35.480 dad and just like whatever. So but but yeah, so 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:40.000 you really remember the people that are like interested, Well, 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:41.520 Shane was more than interested. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:46.200 Yes, very I mean and you married him. 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.680 How long after you meet him? 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:55.119 Ah? It was it was probably like seven years or 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:56.280 something after I can. 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:59.320 Yeah, we're friends for a while. And then were you 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.199 working together then? Were you doing the n Real video? 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:04.679 Making the video? 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.920 Okay about I had so many lives because you also 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:14.879 know Jack Lawrence, my mate from that Yes drama. 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.280 Yeah you know he was working on a footy ground 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:18.720 as well. 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.000 Yeah JK, yeah JK. 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.679 He used to do something yeah and yeah yeah. 0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:25.919 Yeah I remember him. 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:31.600 Yeah, God, and he was always like all these when 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:36.400 you when we first started playing your song ador, he 0:21:36.520 --> 0:21:38.800 was always like I always knew it. 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:40.359 There was always something about that. 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.199 He helped me a lot at different radio, like just 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:46.480 trying to plug it. And yeah, so many people did, 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:50.400 like I have some people in my life that I've 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.520 worked with that. You know, I've had so many different 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:57.520 jobs and they've all come to like my gigs over 0:21:57.560 --> 0:21:59.760 the years, you know, and there might be like ten 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.920 there or whatever like's it was never anything amazing. 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.040 It was just like a little EP launch or. 0:22:06.080 --> 0:22:08.560 I don't know how to gig it at the NVY 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:10.280 Hotel or so, I don't know whatever. 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.880 Always around the Gold Coast, a few in Brisbane. 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:16.119 But yeah, and it's just it's so funny to me 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:20.240 because there would be so many people around Australia that 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:24.200 are like, oh, yeah, I remember that girl, she was 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.440