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Speaker 1: It was one of those moments where I did wake

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Sees the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 2: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 2: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 2: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 2: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 2: explore the stories of those who found lives They adore, the.

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Speaker 3: Good, bad and ugly.

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Speaker 2: The best and worst day will bear all the facets

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Speaker 2: of seizing your yay. I'm Sarah Davidson or a spoonful

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Speaker 2: of Sarah, a lawyer turned entrepreneur who swapped the suits

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Speaker 2: bar Cza is a series of conversations on finding a

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Speaker 2: life you love and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy.

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Speaker 3: And fulfillment along the way.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I regret using certain phrases so much, because when

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Speaker 2: I really want to hammer something home, I've usually already

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Speaker 2: overdone it. So, for example, I really wanted to emphasize

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Speaker 2: what an incredible breath of fresh air today's guest is,

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Speaker 2: but I've probably said that many times before, So thank goodness,

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Speaker 2: you're about to hear from her yourself. As I know

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Speaker 2: you'll agree, she's truly one in a billion. If anyone's

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Speaker 2: Parthia could be said to truly veer off in totally

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Speaker 2: unexpected directions at every new chapter, it's Amy Stanton's. She

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Speaker 2: has the most fascinating story so far, and she's not

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Speaker 2: even thirty. If you've met her even once, she's someone

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Speaker 2: hot crack, and being who you truly are. You'd expect

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Speaker 2: I was surprised to learn that most of her earlier

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Speaker 2: competing on Survivor and House Rules, then starting an incredibly

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Speaker 2: Amy has well and truly proven her strength, talent and drive,

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Speaker 2: through another regular podcast guest, Samatha Gash, and recently spent

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I'm stoked to be here.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited to see you guys.

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Speaker 2: We have literally gone from being such a tight knit

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Speaker 1: When I saw your face, it just lit off. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I love you Aimes love so many special moments together. Well,

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Speaker 3: But you are.

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Speaker 1: You've definitely given me a big head. I could just

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Speaker 1: You're talking about me the most down to earth thing

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I think like, there's just so many

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Speaker 2: passionate about plumbing, and I followed my dad around to

434
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: his plumbing job. You know, Like, but you just kind

435
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: of stumbled into it after a few false starts and

436
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 2: then made the most of it and then just kept

437
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 2: going until the next chapter sort of arrived on your lap.

438
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: And I love that about you because it doesn't have

439
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 2: to be like you wake up with a lightning strike

440
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 2: of purpose and then you love every minute of your

441
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 2: career and the surest side that maybe it is time

442
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 2: for a new chapter is when you do look at

443
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: someone more senior than you and you don't want to

444
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: be them. And I like that you took that as like, hmm,

445
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: maybe like I don't need magnum, maybe I can go

446
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: do something else. And you're just such a great role

447
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: model for like giving things a red hot crack. If

448
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: you don't know what you're gonna you know what you

449
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: really want to do, You've got to do something in

450
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: the meantime. And I love that you just kept trying

451
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: stuff and doing different things, and even now you still

452
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: continue to do that. But you back then could never

453
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 2: have imagined what you would end up achieving. And that's

454
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: like I love that this is almost a way for

455
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 2: you to talk to people who are at old you

456
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: stage in their life and remind them like you can

457
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 2: get there. It just takes a lot of patience, a

458
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: lot of like growing a thick skin and living through

459
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: some really shit bits where you're like, wow, I've got

460
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 2: metal on my butt and everyone already thinks that a

461
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: lady trade is going to suck. And I like drove

462
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 2: through the fence in my first week.

463
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: I got a lot of women drivers. I know a

464
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: lot of that on site that day.

465
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: So was it something that you kind of loved when

466
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: you were there, but then got to the point where, like,

467
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: what drew.

468
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: You out of that chapter? Even if you had.

469
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: Fallen into something that you were good at, because I

470
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: know you were really good at it. You became like

471
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: an award winning plumber, You won awards for your skills.

472
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: What made you think, actually, I'm agitating for something new.

473
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a great question. I think a few

474
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: years after I started, I kind of thought to myself, look,

475
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to get an apprenticeship under my belt and

476
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: then go out and chase my dreams. And as bad

477
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: as it as is, and I know people don't like saying,

478
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 1: at least you have something to fall back on, my

479
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 1: mindset at the time was like, at least I can

480
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: do the walk of shame back to plumbing if all

481
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: else fails. And I've only done it twice, but I

482
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: don't think I'm going back ever again now. So, and

483
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: that's the whole thing about growing and learning. It's like, well,

484
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: sometimes you start up something and you do have to

485
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: go back for a solid income to you know, get

486
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: a house, sloan or something like that. In your first

487
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: years which is completely fine. It doesn't mean it's the

488
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: end of the day journey. It just means don't get

489
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: comfortable in that job. And for me, after I finished

490
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: my apprenticeship, I was still very materialistic. I was still

491
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 1: trying and that was to impress people. And I thought,

492
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: you know, being a plumber earning good money, and you know,

493
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: I was getting magnums every day, and I I was like,

494
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: I had a parlo like a forty grad car loan,

495
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: which obviously came with a forty grad you know car.

496
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: And then it got so bad, like I think I

497
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: was twenty one at the time when I bought my

498
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: first house with my ex partner, and I literally bought

499
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: it because I thought, in my head, oh, people are

500
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: going to think, oh, look at Amy's She's so cool.

501
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: She has a house. No one once said that, No

502
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: one must say that because she has a house, I said.

503
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: Everyone was finding like, holy shit, she's twenty one with

504
00:26:54,800 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 2: a mortgage, Like where is no more magnums for you?

505
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: And then yeah, and it was kind of at that

506
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: stage of my is this the end? Like what now? Kids,

507
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: Like I've got you know, what do I do now?

508
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: I had, you know, a beautiful car house. I haven't

509
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: had a pet pig named Constable crackles.

510
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: I was like, you had it made And people.

511
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: Would have looked at me and been like, she's living

512
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: the ideal life. But really, deep down I was. I

513
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: was unfulfilled. I was not fulfilled. And it was one

514
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: of those moments where I did wake up one day

515
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: and I thought, no, this isn't me. I don't want

516
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: to live for the materialistic liabilities. I want to live

517
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: for the adventures and the experiences. And it was such

518
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: an aha moment that I just something inside me. I

519
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: sold everything I rocked up to sold. So the house

520
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: of the car, I wropped up to Mom and dads

521
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: with the pet pig and Dad's like no, no, no, no,

522
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: no no. And I'm like, what, Like we lived in

523
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: like suburbia, And I gave the pet pig to a

524
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: guy from work. He has a farm. And normally when

525
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: I tell people that I gave the pet pig to

526
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: a farm, they're like, so you killed him. I'm like, no,

527
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: like an actual farm, not the farm your parents tell you.

528
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: The rainbow farm at the end of the pot of

529
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: Gold where all the animals lived together in harmony.

530
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was just the beginning of where

531
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: I really felt myself. I felt, this is me, this

532
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: is my life, this is what I'm going to do now,

533
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm just free to go do what I want. And

534
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: I know that's when I started believing whatever happens happens,

535
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: everything will fall into place eventually.

536
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: Oh oh my gosh, absolutely, And I just think, like,

537
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: how crazy that you had everything that you had ever

538
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: dreamed of and all the things that most people still

539
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: measure success by so young, and all it did was

540
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 2: create stress and unhappiness and restriction for you.

541
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: But walking away from it all and.

542
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: Also having the balls to do that, because that's incredibly scary,

543
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: and to give away your pig, I mean, mate, that's huge.

544
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: Like you took a huge risk and absolutely changed your

545
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: life and started peeling back all the layers to reveal

546
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: like who Amy actually is underneath. And now that Amy

547
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 2: that I know that makes so much sense to me now,

548
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: but probably at the time it didn't make sense to anyone,

549
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: which is also even more impressive that you were like,

550
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to do it. I am going to walk

551
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: from Melbourne to Canberra tomorrow because I want to with

552
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: my alda bag of goods and no change of clothes

553
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: tell us about that.

554
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: I feel like this is a great chapter.

555
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: Come Next is my favorite one. It's logical, you know,

556
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: it's what you expect would come.

557
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: Next, obviously, like how would it not come next? And

558
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 4: it actually started kind of how the whole plumbing thing

559
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: started and the whole ars in the window mooning started.

560
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: It kind of started by someone saying, oh, you couldn't

561
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 4: walk to Canberra.

562
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: You couldn't do that. I don't even remember how we

563
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: kind of got on the subject. We're at the pub

564
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: a few lemonades later, and I don't know it, just

565
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: I started doing some hiking and someone kind of said

566
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: you couldn't do it, And another moment in my life

567
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: was just like why shouldn't I do it? Like what

568
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: why can't I do something crazy? And then I just

569
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: literally I it might have been two days later. I

570
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: packed my bag. I'm like, I'm just gonna I'm just

571
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: going to go for it, and I'm gonna post it

572
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: on Facebook that I'm walking to Camber because then I

573
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: have to Then I have to do it. And so

574
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: I remember walking down the driveway and my parents were

575
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: looking at me so worried about me, and I remember

576
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: turning to them and looking in their eyes and saying, Mom, Dad,

577
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: at least I'm not on drugs. I'm just walking.

578
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: Good perspective very important.

579
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: And they were like, oh, you know that supposed is right.

580
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: But within that experience, and it wasn't long after I

581
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: sold all my stuff, I did a bit of traveling.

582
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: But then within that experience it completely completely made me

583
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: realize and built me up to I can literally do anything.

584
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 1: I was walking, you know, in forty degree heat, sleeping

585
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: on the side of the road. I was by myself.

586
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: I think I was twenty twenty three at the time.

587
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I would sleep on the side of the road. My

588
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: bag got stolen. I had to walk three days in

589
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: my thongs. Literally no, that was so my actual bag

590
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: got stolen, so I had to use an Audi bag

591
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: and I couldn't even count. I would be so rich

592
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: now if the amount of people that pulled over on

593
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: the side of the road and be like are you okay?

594
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: Like are you lost? And they thought I was a

595
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: Swedish backpacker or a homeless person, and I'm like, I'm

596
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: oh good, I'm just gone for a walk. Like where

597
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: you're from, Like I'm from Lilida. I'm doing this for

598
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: fun and pop like and just the amount doing something

599
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: by yourself where you get to think a lot and

600
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: so hard. Like remember I would have like a solar

601
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: panel on my head to charge my phone and just

602
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: all this crazy stuff. One time I got lost in

603
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: the forest. I was going on a walk and then

604
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: I got lost in the forest and I thought I

605
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: was gonna die. I was only point in life I've

606
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: literally felt like I'm going to die in here. It

607
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: was Australia day at home, and I'm just picturing all

608
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: my friends getting drunk having fun, and I'm like, I'm

609
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: in a fucking forest. I've got hands of tuna, I've

610
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: got a couple of pudding cups, and I have no

611
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: idea where I am. And I could laugh about it now,

612
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: but I cried since three days straight, like I'm a goner.

613
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah that was three days, wasn't it, Like you were

614
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: fully didn't see anyone again until three days later.

615
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: And then on the third day, I was like, Okay,

616
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: if I just walk one way, if I just walk straight,

617
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure to come out somewhere. And then this treelopper

618
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,239
Speaker 1: came and they it was getting dark and they had

619
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: their headlights on and they're like, what are you doing.

620
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god. It was like a movie.

621
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm also been in it for three days.

622
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: I've had three cans of tuna. It was just like crazy.

623
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: And then he took me back to his house and

624
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: then talk about the kindness of a stranger. I literally

625
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: got in the car with some treelopper that could have

626
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: been a murderer.

627
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a murder podcast, and I'm making

628
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: why did you go into podcasting?

629
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: But I had no other options, and you know, they

630
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: made me dinner and then I was on my way

631
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: and it was just such an experience of like I

632
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: can do anything and it doesn't have to make sense

633
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: why I do it. And that's why I kind of

634
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: tell everyone and get everyone out there. Just do something crazy.

635
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 1: Take your annual leave, go on or walk, go camping

636
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: by yourself. Just do something that is completely out of

637
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: your comfort zone and you won't even know how fi.

638
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: You could just change. You could wake up with a

639
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: completely new perspective on everything. And that's what happened to me.

640
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: And once I finally got to Canberra, I was kind

641
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: of got there and I'm like, there's not much going

642
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: on here. There's nothing happening in Camebra. Why did I

643
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: choose camera?

644
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 3: Why did you choose camera? I'm like, why did you

645
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: choose something? Like, I don't know.

646
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: Why didn't you walk back in the other direction, like

647
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 2: fly to camera, walk back to Melbourne.

648
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: Look, I don't know, I don't know. I just wanted

649
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: to go and I'm like, camera, I'm heading towards you.

650
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: Cindy's a bit far. Cambra will do hands. From that

651
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: point on, like, I was just constantly building my strength

652
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: and it just truly shows that if you do something

653
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: completely out of the ordinary, you don't know where it's

654
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 1: going to take you. And for me, from that experience,

655
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 1: I just started noticing more and more opportunities. And instead

656
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: of being so down on myself that I was stupid

657
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: and I can't do anything, it's like, did I can?

658
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: If I can do this, I can do anything, and

659
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm just going to look out for opportunities find them.

660
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: And then that's when everything started to come my way

661
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: because I was so much more confident in my own skin.

662
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: And you are such an amazing example that you can

663
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: actually change your entire narrative at any time in your life,

664
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: like you didn't intrinsically have this thirst for risk and

665
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: adventure when you were younger, like you were shy, you

666
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: were racked with self doubt. And I think people really

667
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: silo themselves into personality types and think, oh, well, I

668
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: could never be like that because look how adventurous amy is.

669
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: But you didn't start that way, like until this trip.

670
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: You were so like you said, down on yourself and

671
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: you had like I imagine, more imposter syndrome than the

672
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: average person has ever had and still now are absolutely

673
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 2: living your dreams because that changed the way that you see.

674
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: Yourself and your life path.

675
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: And I think that's just it should spark like a

676
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: fire and everyone listening that anyone can do it anytime,

677
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: Like what's the worst that will happen. You've got nothing

678
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 2: to lose, improving to yourself that you can do something

679
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: you didn't think you could do.

680
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and just take that step out of just

681
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: your ordinary day of going to work and doing this.

682
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people think if they, you know, skip

683
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: a day of work, or they God help us go

684
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: on a holiday for a month or something, that the

685
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: whole world is going to explain. It's like, these are

686
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: the staff These are the adventures that you're going to

687
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: remember for the rest of your life. You just need

688
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: to take the plunge, get out there and do something different,

689
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: no matter what it is.

690
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's just such good advice.

691
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: This is why I think you need to speak to

692
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: like every school and in every platform, like you need

693
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 2: to live in a soapbox to just spread this message

694
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: because like everyone needs to hear more of it and.

695
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: To see what you've done.

696
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 2: Even in the short time since that walk, Like I

697
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 2: can't even imagine what lies ahead. There's just so much

698
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: excitement coming your way now that you have kind of

699
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 2: changed your mindset towards abundance and confidence that you'll make

700
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: at work. So I mean, you've since been on survivor

701
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: on house rules, You've started a business that is booming,

702
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: Like not many businesses came out of COVID booming, but

703
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: tiny days. You're how many different places do you have?

704
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: Now?

705
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 3: Is you and your brother?

706
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: Yes, me and my brother, So we're we're on our

707
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: fourth and yeah, completely loving, loving the journey. But as

708
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: you know, and what I've realized, so many things go

709
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: wrong and then you just start to realize, I'm just

710
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: going to bloody, enjoy this ride is the moment you're like,

711
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: all right, who cares kind of me?

712
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: So how did that start? Firstly, how did you get

713
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: back from camera?

714
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: And then how did you start to translate all of

715
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: those big revelations too. I'm going to start a business,

716
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to go on reality TV. I'm going to

717
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: change my life become a business owner, and then I'm

718
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: going to be a speaker.

719
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: Well, I actually when I was on the Walk, I

720
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: applied for Survivor because a lot of my mates are like, oh,

721
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: you have to go on this show, and I hadn't

722
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: watched it before, and I just pulled out the camera

723
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: and I swear I just had to say, I'm a plumber,

724
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: i haven't showered in three weeks, and I'm on the

725
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: side of the road walking to Canberra and they're like,

726
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: she's on She's on the show.

727
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 3: Easy. Easy.

728
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 1: So when I got home, oh, well, I had choked

729
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: a lot of the way home, and then I met

730
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: up with my partner at the time and we went

731
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: up to Cosiosco and then I got home and then

732
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: from there I did a bit of traveling around in

733
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: the verre and then I went on Survivor I remember

734
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: actually I was in the middle of doing like all

735
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: the auditions and I didn't want to tell anyone. I

736
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: thought I'd curse myself if I told people that I

737
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: was in the auditions, and my parents and stuff thought

738
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 1: I was like traveling around Australia and for no joke,

739
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks I was like hiding in

740
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: my van down at Phillip Island and traveling around just

741
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: Victoria because I had to go over these auditions and

742
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: my mom would call me and be like, oh, where

743
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: are you, and I I suppose I was getting me

744
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 1: ready for Survivor I because I didn't want to tell

745
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: her because I thought I'd curse myself. I was like, oh,

746
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: I'm just at this spot. I'd look at a man

747
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: like near one hundred k's out of Adelaide, and I

748
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: said this spot and I was like, I forgot where

749
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: it was. He's like, oh, you're not there, are You'm like, why,

750
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: what's wrong with this? He's like and he told me

751
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: this story about how this young girl got raped and

752
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: murdered there like twenty years ago. And I'm like, oh, no,

753
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: I'll be fine, and I'm leaving tomorrow. And really I

754
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 1: was like twenty k's from home.

755
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: Just hiding it around the corner.

756
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: It was such a stupid thing to do, but I

757
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: just had it in my head. If I tell people,

758
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: it might not happen. And then I got on and

759
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: I went to SAMO. I had no idea about the show.

760
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: If anyone watches it, I just had no idea about it.

761
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: I rocked up in like half a T shirt, literally

762
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: in short cho I'm like, hey, guys, like, ayy, where's

763
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: your joper? I'm like, why would I need a jumper?

764
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: And it was full on like you you're sleeping in

765
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: the mud. Everyone's talking about you, like if you're not

766
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: mentally strong. The game is just insane. And as you

767
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of might know, I'm the type of person who

768
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: goes i'd do something. I'd do the adventure. And then

769
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: I move on and I'm like, all right, what's next?

770
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: That was fun. I don't dwell on it that I got.

771
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: I think I got eliminated fifth and it was funny.

772
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: I'm best friends with guy now who got me boot

773
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: who you no ideas?

774
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 4: Like?

775
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: I remember this. These two guys were on the beach

776
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: talking obviously about how they're going to get me out.

777
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: I walked up to them and I'm like like, hey, guys,

778
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And I'm like, oh, weather,

779
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh sleep, yeah, the weather.

780
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't bring a jumper. Yeah.

781
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: And I think half my reason that I knew people

782
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: wanted that so bad. They it was their dream to

783
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: go on Survivor, and for me it was just another adventure.

784
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: And I probably mucked my game up because I kept

785
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: telling people. I'm like, I'm just here so I can

786
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: get drunk in Jury Villa, and They're all looking at.

787
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 3: I love you.

788
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, now, especially now that I know you better,

789
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 2: like I didn't know you before you went on. Now,

790
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god. She just like there's no game.

791
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: I'd be exactly the same. I have no poker face.

792
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: I just tell everyone everything. I can't keep a secret

793
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: to say my life, Like, I can keep secrets, but

794
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: I can't like pretend that I'm feeling something I'm not.

795
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: I'd be so bad. I'd just be like, hi, I

796
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: voted you out.

797
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: I don't so like that. And it just you. I

798
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: think people have to go into that show and you

799
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: have to be a bloody good actor because you have

800
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: to turn on and but you're constantly paranoid. So when

801
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: I got I'm not a victored. Sorry, I've been wanting

802
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: to be started to go. When I got brooded, I

803
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: was like, it was all good. It was honestly, I'm like, oh, sweet,

804
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: that's awesome. That means a bigger opportunity is coming for me,

805
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: or I'm huge on this happens for a reason that

806
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: didn't go that way. I didn't win for a reason.

807
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: I got to go to the Philippines for six weeks

808
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: after that and drink coconuts on the beach. But I

809
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: got to like actually eat and sleep in a hotel.

810
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: So I wasn't disappointed. I wasn't. I was like, oh,

811
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: it was more like that was an awesome journey. What's next?

812
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: And I think in anything like that where you might

813
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: be so excited to achieve a goal or well whatever,

814
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: getting on reality TV or starting a business, but as

815
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, so when you get the goal, yeah you're

816
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: excited about it. It might be a week or two weeks

817
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: or two months, but then it's like it just becomes

818
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: your day to day life and it goes down and

819
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: it fizzits a bit. So it's always for me, what's

820
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: the next thing I can do, and after I'd travel

821
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: with my brother and the Philippines after I got booted

822
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: from Survivor. We both He was actually an ex accountant

823
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: and kind of the same pathways you. He was so

824
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: smart and he was so good at what he did,

825
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: being a chry to account it. But he was like me,

826
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, this isn't me, Like, I want to

827
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: do something else. I think there's more to life for me.

828
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: So he quit and he did the whole traveling for

829
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: four years, and we realized our passions areligned, and one

830
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: night we sat down. At the time, I was running

831
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: how to adult courses for like just teenagers and stuff,

832
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: just workshops to teach them the skills that they don't

833
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: learn in high school and things like that, because I

834
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: didn't learn that much in high school of life skills.

835
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: I did not know you did that.

836
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: Did you teach a lot the moon in their science classes?

837
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: Here is how you get expelled?

838
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: And not many people did not. I did it for

839
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: a couple of years, just purely out of it. I

840
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: didn't want to make any money out of it. I

841
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: just purely wanted to show kids that there's more to

842
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: life than the textbooks. And there's more skills that are

843
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: going to get you a lot further in life than

844
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: knowing algebra. So one week it might be just like

845
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: no talking about drugs and alcohol like And I never said,

846
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: oh I'm a genius, I'm a psychiatrist. It was just

847
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: so the kids could relate to me. I'm not their mom,

848
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: I'm not their teacher. Let's just have a chat, talk

849
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 1: about things, talk about the outside world after school. And

850
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: one of my classes was like out your passions in

851
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: life and how you're going to turn them into your purpose.

852
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: And it wasn't the whole thing of, oh, you need

853
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: to turn your skateboarding passion into a job, because we

854
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: all know then you'll probably end up hating skateboarding after that, absolutely,

855
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: But it was what are you good at and what

856
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: do you like doing, what do you get up and

857
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 1: like doing, and how can you turn it into more

858
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: than yourself. I wasn't going to get up in the

859
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: morning and be like, yes, I get to build a

860
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: tiny house today. It's more like, yes, I get to

861
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: create these amazing places where people can come unwind, get

862
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: away from their bosses, spend time with their loved ones.

863
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: And that's what got me up in the morning and

864
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: how man Ben created that. We kind of we just

865
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: sat down and we wrote, all right, what are we

866
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: good at? What are our passions? And it was you know,

867
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: the environment, doing things with our hands, building holidays, and

868
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: from that it eventually into why don't we build tiny

869
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: houses We've got the skill set for it and then

870
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: rent them out as B and b's And that's how

871
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: Tiny Stay started. And yeah, we're just growing and growing

872
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: every day. So it's such a beautiful thing to look

873
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: back on from where I was, you know, ten fifteen

874
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: years ago. I never would have dreamed this would be

875
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: my life now.

876
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, but isn't that the best?

877
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: I mean, this is why I take time to go

878
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 2: through all the earlier parts that sometimes people are like,

879
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: that's not what I do now, Like why do you

880
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: need to talk about it so much? And it's because

881
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 2: I'm like, people need to be reminded that you didn't

882
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 2: know that you would end up here.

883
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: That's the point.

884
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 2: That's why it's so exciting that you didn't wake up

885
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: one day and go, I want to build tiny houses.

886
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: And that's what makes me excited every day. It's like

887
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 2: you had to grow into figuring out where your passions

888
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: and your skills and your talents kind of you know,

889
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 2: merged in the middle. And you're so right to about

890
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: the fact that sometimes if you do just look for

891
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: purely what you're passionate about and you make that a job,

892
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: that does kill the joy for some people. So maybe

893
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: it's not just things that you purely love. Maybe it

894
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: is also like something you can offer someone else. And

895
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 2: I love that you framed it around like you love

896
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: not the physical bit that's your job. We don't have

897
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: to love our job every day. You love the experience

898
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: you create for someone else. And it's more about the

899
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: connection side of thing that I think makes people really happy.

900
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: Because if you are just tying it to things, like

901
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 2: you know, monetary goals or tangible things, then you're right,

902
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: you get over it really quickly and it doesn't last.

903
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: So I love that so much, and I'm so so

904
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: excited for you that this is where you are and

905
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 2: that it's booming and growing and everything's just unraveling exactly

906
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: as it should.

907
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's so true. And as I was kind

908
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: of saying before, you do face challenges every day with it.

909
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: But I think if you think more about why you're

910
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: doing it rather than the challenges can It completely changes it.

911
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: And one small thing I did, and I only started

912
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: doing this, probably a few weeks ago, to be a

913
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: very to do list. I would wake up in the morning,

914
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: wake up at three thirty in the morning. It's ridiculous,

915
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: do not try it. But I would write down on

916
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: my in my diary. I'd be like, Okay, what do

917
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: I need to do today? And then yeah, then I

918
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: started changing it to how do I want to feel today?

919
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: What do I what gets me excited? And it has

920
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: I've only been doing it for a few weeks, but

921
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: it's completely changed. It's more like my life isn't just

922
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: a to do list. I want to feel motivated, energized,

923
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: to feel energized, I want to go to the gym

924
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 1: in the morning, I want to do this, And it

925
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: was kind of I don't know. It completely changes your

926
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: perspective of the day ahead. Rather than just like, oh, crap,

927
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: I've got a message you know so and so from

928
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: PR and do this and do that. You're just growing

929
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: every day, like no one really knows what they're doing,

930
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: no one has no idea. But if you enjoy it,

931
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: you're halfway there.

932
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: Oh, that's so true, and you're right, like, we do

933
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 2: treat our lives very much as a to do list

934
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: and then wonder why there's no joy at the end

935
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: of it. And you look back, I can think I

936
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: sacrificed so much of the important things in life for

937
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: that to do list that you know, decades later you're like,

938
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 2: I don't even care.

939
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 3: About that to do list.

940
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: Really, it's you have to enjoy the journey and all

941
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 2: those little moments of joy in between. So that leads

942
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: really nicely into like the middle section is n Ata,

943
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: which is the challenges you face along the way, and

944
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: I think you've really beautifully kind of acknowledged all of

945
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 2: those in among all the highlights, which is not the

946
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: way most people tell their stories. So I really appreciate

947
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: that you're really upfront about that. But the last section

948
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 2: is your playta, which is the part where you do

949
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: acknowledge that you can't just work and die. Even if

950
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: you love your job, there has to be a part

951
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: of you that's reserved for just pure fun and enjoyment

952
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: and energy and excitement that makes you, you know, what

953
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: are the things you do that aren't related to your

954
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: work that let your brain switch off so you don't

955
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: burn out from your work and that just you do

956
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: even if they might feel like a waste of time,

957
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: but because you enjoy them.

958
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so not like that just makes me smile

959
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 1: thinking about like all the beautiful things we have in

960
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: our life that we can do that isn't completely to

961
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: do with the grinds, And one of them for me

962
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: is definitely hiking, and but being by myself hiking. You know,

963
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: I love my partner or my friends and my family,

964
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: but I just I love spending time by myself, you know,

965
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: switching the throne to do not disturb and just going

966
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 1: for a hike, and kind of having days instead of

967
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: constantly you know, six days a week or whatever it

968
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: is as a business owner. It used to be seven.

969
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: But being like I don't have to do this every day,

970
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: maybe some days I won't put it on my alum

971
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: and I'll just go with the flow. If I want

972
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: to sit there and watch Netflix for six hours, I'll

973
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: do it. Like my life doesn't have to be like that.

974
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: And so it's kind of having the freedom to be like,

975
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: I don't know what I want to do today, I'll

976
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: go for a hike, I'll watch Netflix and then something

977
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: that kind of used to be a real passion of mine,

978
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: which was doing DIY and fixing things, but then it

979
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: slowly started to turn and kind of talking about the

980
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: whole skateboarding thing turned into another side of my career

981
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: for me and constantly filming content for it. So it

982
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: was great, but it took the joy out a little

983
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: bit because I wasn't just doing it freely. So sometimes

984
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 1: I just like to take the time. As much as

985
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: I love filming it and creating videos, it's good to

986
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: just put the phone away and do things that I

987
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: don't have to post on social media and make things

988
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: that are purely just for me, rather than doing it

989
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: with someone else or for someone else or for the

990
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,919
Speaker 1: world to see. Oh, I don't have to show them

991
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 1: my whole life and everything I do.

992
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 3: Totally.

993
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: And I think that's something that can be a bit

994
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 2: confusing for some people when they do have a passion

995
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: that they really love, and then they do make it

996
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: their job because they think you have to be passionate

997
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: about your job all the time, and then it does

998
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: kill the joy when they have a deadline or a

999
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: brief or someone else's creative idea, you know, super imposed

1000
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 2: over the top of it. And I think that's one

1001
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 2: thing I probably went really hard on when I first

1002
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 2: started CZA and now try and scale back a little bit,

1003
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 2: is that the joy you find, it's wonderful if you

1004
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: can find that in your job, but it doesn't have

1005
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 2: to be at work. Like for some people it will

1006
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 2: never be at work. And it's okay if you do

1007
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 2: your job nine to five because it pays bills and

1008
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 2: that's it. As long as it doesn't make you unhappy.

1009
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: You can find your joy outside of work, and maybe

1010
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 2: that's just where it belongs for you. Like the balance

1011
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: is going to look different for everyone, but some things

1012
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: are really precious and you do want to keep them where.

1013
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 3: They are joyful for you.

1014
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: And like it's okay to be like, I don't want

1015
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: to do that as a job today or any time,

1016
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 2: but I love that you do still do your DIY projects,

1017
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: but you do some that are just for you because

1018
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: that's so important for you to keep that alive.

1019
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and it's so true. Everyone needs to create

1020
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: time in their schedules for just doing what makes life

1021
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: life and makes them happy. And yeah, that's so true.

1022
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: I think one of the things I loved so much

1023
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: about our trip recently was that even though there were

1024
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 2: eight women and then two guys and then the guides,

1025
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,479
Speaker 2: we spent like big chunks of that day walking really

1026
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 2: separate from each other. Like we had wonderful conversations at

1027
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 2: points like at lunchtime, or if we kind of broke

1028
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: off into different clusters of who was feeling faster or

1029
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: slower on particular days. But we also spent hours in silence.

1030
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 2: And I don't do that very often, but I think

1031
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: learning to appreciate your own company inside your own head

1032
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 2: is one of the most valuable things you can do.

1033
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: It's really uncomfortable to begin with, Like the first few

1034
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: days you spend by yourself, I can imagine when you

1035
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: started walking, you're just like, without the noise and distraction

1036
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: of people and conversation, it's like a lot of shit

1037
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 2: in your brain that starts to come to the surface.

1038
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: But it's good for you to process that.

1039
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true. And at the start of anything

1040
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: spending time by yourself, you constantly got stuff going on

1041
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 1: in your head. But the more you do it, and

1042
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: the more you take the time to be by yourself

1043
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: and reflect on the day or reflect on everything, show

1044
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: your gratitude. It just puts you at peace and that

1045
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: I never thought one of my favorite things to do

1046
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: in the world that I'd be passionate about would be

1047
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 1: just be alone and by myself and like go for

1048
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 1: a walk.

1049
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: But here we are, and I think that's really healthy

1050
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: because a lot of people are scared of their own

1051
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: company or like scared of what they'll feel if they

1052
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 2: slow down for a second. But that kind of need

1053
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: for just momentum and constant distraction is actually where people

1054
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: burn out. Like that's how people get sick and overworked

1055
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 2: because there's.

1056
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: Just too much adrenaline all the time. But sitting with

1057
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 3: your own stuff is like it's so.

1058
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 1: Important, so so so good.

1059
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: Well, to finish up, second last question is three interesting

1060
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: things about you that don't normally come up in conversation.

1061
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: And you're like a pretty open share which I love

1062
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: about you, so it's probably harder for people who share,

1063
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: like who are pretty chill about being open. But what

1064
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: are three things that like people don't normally know about you?

1065
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a good question. I tell everyone everything.

1066
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 2: I know when they're saying, but like, what's something that

1067
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 2: someone who like, maybe we would after having spent like

1068
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 2: five or six days in really close quarters, like little

1069
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: habits or funny quirks or like party tricks or allergies,

1070
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,439
Speaker 2: you know, all those.

1071
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to think it's so many after we get

1072
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: off the podcast, I should have looked at that question.

1073
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: I think one of the things is, as much as

1074
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm kind of out there and love talking and all

1075
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,439
Speaker 1: this this kind of thing, I love listening, And when

1076
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm in a bigger setting, it's always like I would

1077
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: much prefer to listen to someone else and listen to

1078
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: what someone else is doing with their life. And then

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00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: instead of talking about me, like my mum is she's

1080
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: like my biggest fan ever. Everywhere we go, it's like,

1081
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, and it's always like no, like I

1082
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: don't I don't know, just talking to other people about

1083
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I wouldn't care if no one knew

1084
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: anything about me, But if I could talk to someone

1085
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: else and hear their stories and what they're up to,

1086
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: and what you do is a podcast, so it's just amazing.

1087
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: And that's one of my things. I do like being

1088
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: just you know, turning off for a bit and listening

1089
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: to other people and then oh, I like as much

1090
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: as I've been on reality TV. I actually hate watching TV.

1091
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: I've just started watching Big Brother. But I think in

1092
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: my head, I'm like, oh my god, how many hours

1093
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: of am I wasting watching this? But I don't watch

1094
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: movies that much. I'll do it because Kate Kate does it.

1095
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: I don't watch TV that much. I'm like, I don't

1096
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: know what do I do with my life? I don't know.

1097
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, like even movies and stuff. I just don't.

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00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 3: Is it because you get fidgety? Like do you want

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00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: to do stuff?

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00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's just like oh god. I always like I

1101
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 1: walk into a movie theater be like, Okay, how long

1102
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: does this go for? And then I don't.

1103
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: It's You're like me, He's like, this is like prison.

1104
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: I can't do it because the same time, I'm like,

1105
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: that's the point. You're already doing one activity. You don't

1106
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: need to do three. It's like, nah, we're leaving, let's

1107
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: just watch it. We can download it.

1108
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: It's fine, So true, so true.

1109
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: So what do you do do you do?

1110
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: Like?

1111
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 3: Do you like board games or do you read?

1112
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: I've just started getting onto board games. I'm trying to

1113
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: read more. I've started your book. I love it. Yeah,

1114
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: I started on the trip and I've been slowly reading it.

1115
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: I tell you. The funniest thing actually take off my

1116
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: third thing that I completely don't know now. I was

1117
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: on the phone to my mom before and she's like,

1118
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: what are you doing this stuff to do? And I'm like, oh,

1119
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm just got this podcast. She's like, oh, yeah, what's

1120
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: it called. I'm like, oh, sees the Yay. And she's like,

1121
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: Seize the Day. And I'm like, no, seize the yay.

1122
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: And she's like, what do you mean. I'm like, seize

1123
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: the yay. She's like the day. I'm like the yay.

1124
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: And when on the LA five minutes, she's like I

1125
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: don't understand. I'm like, oh my god, like yay and

1126
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: she's like, gay, it sees the game.

1127
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna try, Mom, I can't even do

1128
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: you know what happens Actually quite often that I have

1129
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: to spell it because people like they think I'm it's

1130
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: cease like cease the ya, like end the joy. I'm

1131
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 2: like no, no, like see the day, but yay.

1132
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 3: It takes me a really long time to get it

1133
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 3: out there.

1134
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what, I should just wear it

1135
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: on me, just so I can just even have to

1136
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 2: explain just like this is it.

1137
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 3: And I've started getting.

1138
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 2: From like automated email chains and stuff emails that are

1139
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: like dear ces or like dear the ya.

1140
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: All the time with tiny stage I got dear Tiny.

1141
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: I get it all the time.

1142
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,919
Speaker 2: Sure, But then I'm like, you know, there's some really

1143
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 2: quirky names out there, Like I don't blame them.

1144
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 3: It makes sense. You never know these days.

1145
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, after this podcast is going to be

1146
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 2: like the biggest baby name of twenty twenty one because

1147
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 2: no one's got any names for us but haven't been

1148
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: used like a million times.

1149
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: It's not actually that bad seas.

1150
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 3: I mean, it's kind of like a medical condition if

1151
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 3: you see. So it's like not great.

1152
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 2: I don't think it's like the most loving nice. The

1153
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: very last question, since I love quotes so much as

1154
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: you know, what is your favorite quote?

1155
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: My favorite quote? I have it in front of it.

1156
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: It's literally on my thing. You are the author of

1157
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: your own life. And as much as it's quite simple,

1158
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: it really puts into my perspective of like, no matter

1159
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: what happens to me every day, I can't live in

1160
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: reaction to if something goes wrong, and that's huge for me.

1161
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: And I used to always live in reaction and the moment,

1162
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: I kind of shift my perspective of like I control

1163
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,080
Speaker 1: how I feel. And it even comes down to things like, oh,

1164
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, if your partner doesn't say something that you

1165
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: know you don't like and you go have you cry

1166
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: or you start a fight or whatever, It's like, what

1167
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: is the point of that? Like what are you achieving

1168
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: in any situation about anything? It's like if the car

1169
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: crashes into me, I'm literally I'll be like hah, Like

1170
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: I remember when I was driving around Australia, but I

1171
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: actually made it to Adelaide and I wasn't just in

1172
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: my backyard. I got to Adelaide finally, and then this

1173
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: car crashed into me and my van was written off

1174
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: and that was going to be the start to this

1175
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: huge journey. And as much as it's crazy, it didn't

1176
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: bother me. I was like, oh, well, like that sucks,

1177
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: but why would I What is the point? Yes, I

1178
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: get angry and I get frustrated, get sad, but I've

1179
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: learned to kind of teach myself to snap out of

1180
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: it and be like Amy, that's not going to serve you.

1181
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: So constantly thinking, I write my own story, I'm responsible

1182
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: for everything. It's yeah, it's been. It's been an absolute

1183
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: life changes for me.

1184
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: Oh that's such a good one and something I think

1185
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 2: about all the time that I think you can clearly

1186
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 2: see people who haven't grasped how much control they have,

1187
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: because obviously there are things in life you can't control.

1188
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: I mean, like the last eighteen months have shown us

1189
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 2: more than ever that there are uncertainties that will always

1190
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: be there. But that's only ever half the picture, Like

1191
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: how much it affects you that half of the equation

1192
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: is up to you. And I think until you actually

1193
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: grasp that, you can't change it. But I love that

1194
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: that's your reminder that actually, every day I choose, I

1195
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 2: don't choose this side, but I choose that side. And yeah,

1196
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 2: you know that that other quote, the way that people

1197
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: say life is ten percent what happens to you, ninety

1198
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 2: percent what you make of it.

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01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 3: I think that's so true.

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01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 2: And the more you remind yourself of that, the more

1201
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: you don't sit back and think, oh, I'll just let

1202
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: it all wash over me. It'd be like, I'm not

1203
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 2: going to let that wreck my day.

1204
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, there's people out there with there's lots worse

1205
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: situations than you. And that quote you just said. It's

1206
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: funny because I say that all the time as well.

1207
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 1: But I change the percentages every time because I never

1208
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: know what the quote is. I'm like, yeah, it's ninety five.

1209
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: Then other times I'm like it's eighty three point two percent.

1210
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: I got that off, And it always constantly changes a percentage.

1211
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: I even say the wrong way around my life is

1212
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: ninety percent what happens to you and it's only ten percent. Fuck,

1213
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 2: that's not the right one. What a great ad for

1214
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 2: the show, Aims. Thank you so so much for sharing

1215
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: your amazing story. Every time I leave your company, I

1216
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: feel so uplifted and joyful and excited about life. You're

1217
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: just such a bundle of energy and an absolute little powerhouse.

1218
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: And I'm so glad to have you as a friend.

1219
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. I'm so glad to have viewers.

1220
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 1: I feel like we're just after that trip, We're just

1221
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: it's amazing, how like what we spent a week together,

1222
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: and I feel I have known you my whole life.

1223
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: I mean, wants to take a shit on a mountain together,

1224
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 2: just kind of go back from that.

1225
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: You and that it's so true and when you put

1226
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: yourself in those experiences with people is yeah, it's amazing.

1227
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm so glad to have you as a friend. Now.

1228
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet Paul one day soon.

1229
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I know he's looking at he like.

1230
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: We thought we were going to do this in person, guys,

1231
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 2: and Paul got really excited and it was like, yeah,

1232
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: I'll come in your podcast. Not for the podcast, it's

1233
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: because I get to meet Paul. And then we had

1234
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 2: to do it online.

1235
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: I was like, shit, sorry, I think I would have

1236
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: got so distracted though you would have lost you halfway

1237
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: my phone.

1238
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: Nothing would happen.

1239
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, love, and I will make

1240
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 2: sure to put links to tiny stays in the show notes,

1241
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 2: even though I know it's probably they're all booked out

1242
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: like weekdays and weekends, aren't they for ages?

1243
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Yeah, we're so stoked, but sure someone can

1244
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: get in somewhere ahead.

1245
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 3: Thank you so much love, No way, sir, have a

1246
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: good day.

1247
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: Am I right? The freshest of breath of air and

1248
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: legend of a human who truly makes the most of

1249
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: every opportunity in life and brings joy to all those

1250
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,959
Speaker 2: around her in the process. I hope you guys loved

1251
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: Amy as much as I do, and if you did,

1252
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: please let her know by sharing the episode with some

1253
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 2: reflections or takeaways, tagging at Amy Kate Stanton. I've popped

1254
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: a link to her business, Tiny Stays in the show

1255
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: notes too. I highly recommend you check them out for

1256
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 2: a beautiful little escape. Have an amazing week, and hope

1257
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: you're all seizing your ya.