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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed and

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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to you Beauty, the daily podcast for

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Speaker 1: I'm Lee Camil, I'm Kelly McCarran. It is Monday, glorious

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Speaker 1: start to the week with a Q and A in

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Speaker 2: Someone likes Monday, Yeah, they do if they're listening to us.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's true. That's true. So on Mondays, we answer

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Speaker 2: your questions and then we give you a little tip, little.

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Speaker 1: Hat tip or trick. I couldn't help, but wonder ask

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Speaker 1: me anything. You ask many questions. Today We've got a

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Speaker 1: question about foundation that's the wrong shade, or skin care

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Speaker 1: that's not quite right. But first a question from Nedinka.

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Speaker 3: Hi Er. I had a question for Lee and Kelly

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Speaker 3: to hopefully explore and deep dive into. I was just

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Speaker 3: wondering if if you've tried the VT Cosmetics Reedle shot.

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Speaker 3: It's apparently a K Beauty alternative to skin needling. So,

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Speaker 3: as a breastfeeding mum was looking at whether this will

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Speaker 3: be something equivalent. Asked on the UBDD group as well,

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Speaker 3: and quite a few people said they were curious about it,

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Speaker 3: but no one had anything to report back. Thanks, would

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Speaker 3: love to hear what you guys think. Also absolutely love

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Speaker 3: the podcast. Thank you so much for bringing joy to

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Speaker 3: us every day every week.

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Speaker 2: Nodinka, I love you. This was such a specific and

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Speaker 2: cutting edge question, and you gave me a full day's word.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, and I didn't look into

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Speaker 1: it because I just trusted that Lee would. So please

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Speaker 1: tell me everyone Nedinker, everyone playing long at home? What

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Speaker 1: the hell they loved it.

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Speaker 2: So this is a product and therefore a I guess

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Speaker 2: technology that's really taken off this year cutting edge. So

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Speaker 2: the reedal Shot product contains what's called spicule. Spicules are

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Speaker 2: teeny almost microscopic, but not little needle like structures like

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Speaker 2: little little little and they are found in certain organisms,

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Speaker 2: most commonly a type of sea sponge. Oh So because

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Speaker 2: of that, I want you to think of this product

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Speaker 2: and I'll get into this product specifically in a moment,

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Speaker 2: but I want you to think of this product as

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Speaker 2: your exfoliation step purely because it's got this teeny tiny

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Speaker 2: thing that kind of wounds the skin because these teeny

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Speaker 2: tiny microscopic things have sharp edges, so it's technically a

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Speaker 2: form of physical exfoliation. The rest of the formula is

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Speaker 2: pretty kind of calming and good for you know, like

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Speaker 1: It kind of sounds at the moment like Apricott scrub.

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Speaker 2: But firstly, I did want to point out that needling

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Speaker 2: is breastfeeding safe. You just can't have the numbing cream.

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Speaker 2: So you can have needling, you just can't have numbing first.

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Speaker 2: So if you are you know you're looking for an alternative.

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Speaker 2: If you really want to go back to your needling,

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Speaker 2: go for it. Just don't have numbing cream.

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Speaker 1: You know, some people are funny about doing things though,

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Speaker 1: I mean maybe definitely not when you're pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I wouldn't when you're pregnant. But feeding's fine. But yes,

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Speaker 2: of course in there is the teeny teeny tiny spicules,

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Speaker 2: and then the ingredients are really interesting. So it's got

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Speaker 2: a very long ingredient list. I just pulled out the

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Speaker 1: No, no love you to go through them all.

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Speaker 2: Glycerine, so that's really good for your water retention in

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Speaker 2: your skin. A lot of people go, oh, glycerin, it's great,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of like an emollient, which means it's going

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Speaker 2: for softening and moisturizing. There's good old nicinamide, which we

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Speaker 2: all know, we love. It's a bee vitamin that's gonna

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Speaker 2: help with kind of pores and also moisturizing. Bit clarifying

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Speaker 2: ah janine that is an amino acid and an antioxidant,

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Speaker 2: so again hydration and protects from you know, visible signs

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Speaker 2: teeny tiny needles let's just call them that. They're not

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Speaker 2: I've read a lot of reviews. I've also ordered it.

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Speaker 2: So it goes in stages. There's the read or shot fifty,

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Speaker 2: I don't believe you can. But people on the internet

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Speaker 2: right you can? They say, incorporate it with your other skincare,

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Speaker 2: like your vitamin c's and your retinol. So you're going

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Speaker 2: that's another conversation altogether. You use it on clean, dry skin,

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Speaker 2: so it's your first step, and then what it's going

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Speaker 2: which needling does in Salem. So I do think spicule

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Speaker 2: They're calling it needling in a bottle, and I can

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Speaker 2: So it's really quite new. A lot of people say

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Speaker 1: That we've never heard of that thing before.

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Speaker 2: And they say that their sicker reedle is like a

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Speaker 2: form of silica, a natural mineral that stimulates the skin.

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Speaker 2: So it depends on the product, but we're going to

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Speaker 2: see a lot of this spicule skincare come out of Asia.

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Speaker 2: Everywhere I've ordered it, I'll report back. Give it a crack.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't really have active skincare ingredients. It's just that

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Speaker 2: a lot of K beauty J beauty websites, So shop around.

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Speaker 2: Please don't start with seven hundred. A lot of the

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Speaker 2: forums I read, we're like, ah, I started with seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: People are so silly. Sometimes I get why they think, oh,

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's it, so don't do that. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: harmful ingredients. However, if you're expecting consult with your healthcare provider,

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Speaker 2: they say nothing about feeding. But people have said it

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Speaker 2: so it sounds pretty damn great. Also, users have said

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Speaker 2: you're gonna want to add some hydration after, so they've

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Speaker 2: used a sheet mask or something very so again, in

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Speaker 2: your head, think of it like your exfoliation step, like

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Speaker 2: and the care afterwards is the same. Good luck to

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Speaker 2: anyone that tries it. Me included. I shall report back.

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Speaker 1: Coming up after the break. We offer our advice for

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Speaker 1: products you've purchased that aren't right for you and what

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Speaker 4: Hi, ladies love the pod, just wondering, so what do

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Speaker 4: you do with products that don't work for you or

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Speaker 4: the wrong shade? How do you dispose of them or

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Speaker 4: how do you repurpose them?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? All right?

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Speaker 1: Well, that was a pretty simple question.

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Speaker 2: I think, well, well, my answer is very why don't

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Speaker 1: Anything that doesn't work for me? Firstly, the wrong shade.

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Speaker 1: I think that when you've been in the industry, you know,

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Speaker 1: be the wrong shade. Yeah, I don't know. It's very

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Speaker 1: rare thing, very rare that I would open something that's

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Speaker 2: I agree with you there. I mean, we've got little

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Speaker 2: buzzy bees always buzzing, and I'm going I've got anything, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, And I'm like, oh my god, please help yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 1: So that was that answer that I'm like, is there

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Speaker 2: I've got some suggestions. Say you've bought a foundation that's

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Speaker 2: the wrong shade. Firstly, if you can't get to store

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Speaker 2: and get shade matched, use finndation dot com. It is

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Speaker 2: a product by a door beauty. You go in, you

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Speaker 2: punch in some foundations that you've already got, and it

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Speaker 2: tells you the shade it thinks you will be in

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Speaker 2: the new foundation. You want, then you order online, it arrives,

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Speaker 2: it's not great, it's not perfect shade. You can get

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Speaker 2: drops that will lighten or darken. I've got some recommendation

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Speaker 2: La Girl Pro matt mixing pigment in white. So it's

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Speaker 2: literally a drop of white foundation twenty nine to ninety

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Speaker 2: foundation that's too dark, even if it's the tiniest drop.

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Speaker 2: turn the whole formulation into that Bys Foundation adjuster. It's

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Speaker 2: called Lightner sixteen dollars on cut to the day. Again,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you just added a tiny bit on the

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Speaker 2: flip side. If you need to make a foundation darker.

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Speaker 1: Lord, how long is a piece of string well bombing

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Speaker 1: drops everywhere? If you that's true.

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Speaker 2: I do have a bronzing drop, but this one is

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Speaker 2: literally like a correct or. So the NYX Professional Makeup

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Speaker 2: Total Control Pro Drop Controllable Coverage Foundation. It just comes

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Speaker 2: in very very deep shades. You would add a tiny

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Speaker 2: bit so it can't die. It's essentially, yeah, just pigment.

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Speaker 2: Whereas the other week I mentioned the Revolution bright light

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Speaker 2: We've got a little tip each and mine involves fake

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Speaker 2: show you so, Kelly. Yes, I sometimes get questions on

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Speaker 1: I've always been a little bit confused by inner rim liner, okay,

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Speaker 2: I haven't even opened it.

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Speaker 1: Take it. But you use three at a time.

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Speaker 2: Now, Kelly, what is your tip this week? Because you've

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Speaker 1: I want you to guess what my little tip is

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Speaker 2: By minis because everything's a mini from what I see. No,

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind every Lly it is Advent

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Speaker 2: They one each day. You obviously just go and open that.

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Speaker 1: You think I did open them all, but it was research, Okay,

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