1 00:00:11,104 --> 00:00:15,304 Speaker 1: So you're listening to a Muma Mia podcast. Mamma Mia 2 00:00:15,424 --> 00:00:19,024 Speaker 1: acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders that this 3 00:00:19,064 --> 00:00:26,984 Speaker 1: podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to the 4 00:00:27,024 --> 00:00:30,504 Speaker 1: Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnick. 5 00:00:30,184 --> 00:00:32,424 Speaker 2: And I'm Burnam. Happy super Bowl Day. 6 00:00:32,664 --> 00:00:34,784 Speaker 1: Happy super Bowl Day, the one day of the year 7 00:00:34,824 --> 00:00:36,904 Speaker 1: we talk about sports. We've just come from watching the 8 00:00:36,944 --> 00:00:39,984 Speaker 1: halftime show the first time the big TV in the 9 00:00:40,064 --> 00:00:44,584 Speaker 1: Mummea kitchen lounge area has a sports game blasting. Oh 10 00:00:44,664 --> 00:00:47,104 Speaker 1: so good, we'll watch the Super Bowl halftime show together. 11 00:00:47,184 --> 00:00:49,224 Speaker 1: You were front row, you were leaning forward. 12 00:00:49,464 --> 00:00:51,384 Speaker 3: I'm so glad I was in the front because there 13 00:00:51,424 --> 00:00:52,984 Speaker 3: are a lot of people who are watching who I 14 00:00:53,024 --> 00:00:56,624 Speaker 3: feel like have never seen Kendrick Lamar in their entire lives. 15 00:00:56,704 --> 00:00:58,664 Speaker 3: And the amount of questions I were coming from behind me. 16 00:00:58,704 --> 00:00:59,904 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not your time. 17 00:01:00,024 --> 00:01:04,064 Speaker 1: Yeah, You're like, I can't sometimes out of the kitchen sometimes, Yeah, exactly, 18 00:01:04,104 --> 00:01:05,664 Speaker 1: get out of the kitchen if you can't stand the heat. 19 00:01:07,344 --> 00:01:08,664 Speaker 1: And we were literally in the kitchen. 20 00:01:08,704 --> 00:01:09,504 Speaker 2: We were in the kitchen. 21 00:01:09,824 --> 00:01:12,744 Speaker 1: Yeah. When there's a huge pop culture moment happening and 22 00:01:12,784 --> 00:01:14,344 Speaker 1: we're watching in the office, and someone will come to 23 00:01:14,384 --> 00:01:16,824 Speaker 1: me and be like, so, who's nominated. I'm like, absolutely, 24 00:01:16,824 --> 00:01:20,784 Speaker 1: get away from me, leave us alone. You're paying us 25 00:01:20,784 --> 00:01:22,704 Speaker 1: to do this, so let us do it and leave us. 26 00:01:22,704 --> 00:01:24,824 Speaker 1: It's also that we have we can do the nuance 27 00:01:24,864 --> 00:01:26,504 Speaker 1: of the conversation. I don't have time to go back 28 00:01:26,504 --> 00:01:29,224 Speaker 1: to you and explain the genesis of this whole situation. Anyway, 29 00:01:29,264 --> 00:01:30,224 Speaker 1: this is our personal problem. 30 00:01:30,304 --> 00:01:32,464 Speaker 2: So like, who's scissor? Who's scissor? 31 00:01:32,664 --> 00:01:35,024 Speaker 1: Get out? Oh no, no one said that, did they? 32 00:01:36,144 --> 00:01:38,104 Speaker 1: Oh my god? All right, Well, obviously I've got a 33 00:01:38,104 --> 00:01:39,264 Speaker 1: few new enemies. 34 00:01:39,384 --> 00:01:41,464 Speaker 2: We've got a lot of enemies in our placere work. 35 00:01:41,624 --> 00:01:44,184 Speaker 1: Speaking of enemies, can I say one thing quickly about 36 00:01:44,184 --> 00:01:46,184 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl before we get into the halftime show 37 00:01:46,184 --> 00:01:48,864 Speaker 1: that you want to dissect? Obviously all eyes Aron Taylor 38 00:01:48,904 --> 00:01:52,064 Speaker 1: Swift coming into the event because Travis Kelsey is playing, 39 00:01:52,424 --> 00:01:54,584 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you the teens that are playing. But he's 40 00:01:53,944 --> 00:01:56,504 Speaker 1: a legal Okay, that's just Chiefs. Okay, great, thank you 41 00:01:56,504 --> 00:01:57,544 Speaker 1: for that. He's on the Chiefs. 42 00:01:57,704 --> 00:02:00,384 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, great, I know stuff about spot done. 43 00:02:00,584 --> 00:02:02,304 Speaker 1: And so there was already a lot of backlasher on 44 00:02:02,344 --> 00:02:04,264 Speaker 1: her outfit that she didn't look dressed up enough, which 45 00:02:04,264 --> 00:02:06,424 Speaker 1: I think would have happened either way. Taylor's always gets 46 00:02:06,464 --> 00:02:09,224 Speaker 1: back lasher and her outfit. But then I guess maybe 47 00:02:09,224 --> 00:02:11,224 Speaker 1: she was such a big figure in last year's Super Bowl, 48 00:02:11,304 --> 00:02:13,264 Speaker 1: like they showed more of Taylor Swift sometimes, and they 49 00:02:13,264 --> 00:02:15,824 Speaker 1: showed like the actual gay her and Blake Lively, her 50 00:02:15,864 --> 00:02:17,944 Speaker 1: and Ice Spice and Ice Spices, all of us being like, 51 00:02:17,944 --> 00:02:20,824 Speaker 1: I don't understand football. So this year, Tayler's is sitting 52 00:02:20,824 --> 00:02:22,344 Speaker 1: there and to her credit, she's seeing there minding her 53 00:02:22,344 --> 00:02:24,464 Speaker 1: own business, like she's literally doing nothing. They put her 54 00:02:24,504 --> 00:02:27,104 Speaker 1: up on the jumbo tron. She smiles politely, and the 55 00:02:27,224 --> 00:02:31,424 Speaker 1: whole stadium started booing, yeah, just see that. Yeah, And 56 00:02:31,464 --> 00:02:34,104 Speaker 1: then even Sarna Williams is tweeting like, don't worry Taylor, 57 00:02:34,184 --> 00:02:36,664 Speaker 1: leave her alone, stop booing, and everyone's like she's and 58 00:02:36,704 --> 00:02:40,464 Speaker 1: she smiles, but she looks really shocked. It's like, oh, okay, yeah, 59 00:02:41,064 --> 00:02:42,504 Speaker 1: woman's ever been booed like that before. 60 00:02:42,624 --> 00:02:43,904 Speaker 2: It was sad, it was bad. 61 00:02:44,024 --> 00:02:47,184 Speaker 3: I do want to say that I don't really follow 62 00:02:47,344 --> 00:02:51,544 Speaker 3: the NFL at all shocking, but I do know just 63 00:02:51,544 --> 00:02:56,624 Speaker 3: from like media and commentary that Eagles fans are ruthless. 64 00:02:57,064 --> 00:02:58,704 Speaker 1: Okay, like die Hard. 65 00:02:59,144 --> 00:03:01,424 Speaker 3: I kind of hope they win because imagine that it's 66 00:03:01,464 --> 00:03:03,984 Speaker 3: always sunny in Philadelphia episode that would yeah, you're really 67 00:03:04,384 --> 00:03:07,264 Speaker 3: and that Abbot's Elementary episode that would go off, So 68 00:03:07,304 --> 00:03:10,064 Speaker 3: that would be amazing recording. Right now they are winning. 69 00:03:10,544 --> 00:03:12,184 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so yeah, we don't know the score. 70 00:03:12,784 --> 00:03:14,784 Speaker 3: His Chiefs lose, I might be good because like she 71 00:03:14,864 --> 00:03:17,304 Speaker 3: lost the Grammys, he loses super Bowl. That might be 72 00:03:17,384 --> 00:03:20,104 Speaker 3: quite like Alge sequel. 73 00:03:20,144 --> 00:03:21,024 Speaker 2: They can be said together. 74 00:03:21,304 --> 00:03:22,984 Speaker 1: So that's the only bit of the sport we care 75 00:03:23,024 --> 00:03:25,384 Speaker 1: about getting to the halftime show, which is the big thing. 76 00:03:25,704 --> 00:03:28,184 Speaker 1: I know you were super focused on, like the hype 77 00:03:28,184 --> 00:03:30,064 Speaker 1: around and everything. Can you give us the recab. 78 00:03:29,864 --> 00:03:33,504 Speaker 3: Blocked everyone else from behind me out, and I was focusing. 79 00:03:33,024 --> 00:03:34,824 Speaker 1: On, especially the person who said, who sis us? Sorry? 80 00:03:34,904 --> 00:03:36,784 Speaker 1: Is that person being escorted from the building? Now? Can 81 00:03:36,784 --> 00:03:38,704 Speaker 1: we get out producing him to go and check on that? 82 00:03:38,864 --> 00:03:41,744 Speaker 1: Is that person being escorted out? And there's a thunderstorm outside? 83 00:03:41,784 --> 00:03:44,824 Speaker 1: We don't care escort around anyway? Was it a nail affair? 84 00:03:44,944 --> 00:03:45,464 Speaker 1: What do we think? 85 00:03:45,584 --> 00:03:48,464 Speaker 3: I thought it was a huge nail. I thought it 86 00:03:48,544 --> 00:03:52,064 Speaker 3: was so artistic and so well done. Firstly, I want 87 00:03:52,064 --> 00:03:54,744 Speaker 3: to call out the dancing crew. I'm not sure who 88 00:03:54,784 --> 00:03:57,984 Speaker 3: the dancers are. I know historically it's been the Royal Family. 89 00:03:58,024 --> 00:04:00,184 Speaker 3: I'm not sure who did the choreographer for this one. 90 00:04:00,464 --> 00:04:03,584 Speaker 3: They were incredible, like they gave it. They're all and 91 00:04:03,584 --> 00:04:06,344 Speaker 3: they were all wearing either red, white or blue hoodie 92 00:04:06,344 --> 00:04:09,744 Speaker 3: like the American colors. And their formation was absolutely brilliant 93 00:04:09,824 --> 00:04:13,664 Speaker 3: and reminded me of like the perfect like straight line 94 00:04:13,664 --> 00:04:16,264 Speaker 3: formation that Beyonce would use with her choreography. It was 95 00:04:16,304 --> 00:04:17,864 Speaker 3: so to the point where I was like, oh my god, 96 00:04:17,904 --> 00:04:18,624 Speaker 3: Beyonce's coming. 97 00:04:19,104 --> 00:04:21,384 Speaker 1: She did it. She didn't spoilers. She did Beyonce does 98 00:04:21,424 --> 00:04:21,904 Speaker 1: in cameo. 99 00:04:22,224 --> 00:04:24,184 Speaker 2: She doesn't she did for Coldplay though, no. 100 00:04:24,184 --> 00:04:26,064 Speaker 1: I know, but like not this stage of her career 101 00:04:26,144 --> 00:04:29,824 Speaker 1: where she's just want a Grammy. She's announcing her own tour, 102 00:04:29,944 --> 00:04:30,344 Speaker 1: it's all. 103 00:04:30,504 --> 00:04:33,064 Speaker 3: I was also really sad that Doci didn't make an appearance. 104 00:04:33,144 --> 00:04:35,424 Speaker 3: I really believe that rumored that she was going to come. 105 00:04:35,304 --> 00:04:37,744 Speaker 1: On stage too. That would have been so great coming 106 00:04:37,744 --> 00:04:40,144 Speaker 1: off like her big Grammy's moment. But you know, it 107 00:04:40,184 --> 00:04:41,184 Speaker 1: was still I like that. 108 00:04:41,184 --> 00:04:44,664 Speaker 3: He like really just went all in his breath. Control 109 00:04:44,744 --> 00:04:47,184 Speaker 3: is amazing. Kendrick Lamas, He's absolutely brilliant. 110 00:04:47,544 --> 00:04:48,664 Speaker 2: He's the first hip. 111 00:04:48,464 --> 00:04:51,184 Speaker 3: Hop artist to actually perform at the super Bowl and 112 00:04:51,184 --> 00:04:53,344 Speaker 3: he's just won five Grammy She's been the biggest Grammy 113 00:04:53,504 --> 00:04:54,864 Speaker 3: Award winner this year. 114 00:04:55,464 --> 00:04:56,584 Speaker 2: The actual like. 115 00:04:56,624 --> 00:04:59,904 Speaker 3: Show was so good. I love that it was emceed 116 00:05:00,184 --> 00:05:01,064 Speaker 3: by Samuel L. 117 00:05:01,144 --> 00:05:01,544 Speaker 1: Jackson. 118 00:05:01,664 --> 00:05:04,584 Speaker 2: I loved that he was having the best time. 119 00:05:04,464 --> 00:05:07,064 Speaker 1: But Samuel and everything, he was so good. 120 00:05:07,064 --> 00:05:08,624 Speaker 3: I thought it was just such a clever way to 121 00:05:08,704 --> 00:05:10,904 Speaker 3: kind of coordinate and also so I guess if you're 122 00:05:10,944 --> 00:05:14,344 Speaker 3: not familiar with Kendrick Lamar's music, Samuel L. Jackson acted 123 00:05:14,384 --> 00:05:17,504 Speaker 3: as like the coordinator to explain a lot that was happening. 124 00:05:17,824 --> 00:05:20,024 Speaker 3: I like that he did end up singing the disc 125 00:05:20,064 --> 00:05:22,464 Speaker 3: track that everyone was anticipating the most from Drake, which 126 00:05:22,544 --> 00:05:24,744 Speaker 3: is what he won the biggest Grammy score. But he 127 00:05:24,784 --> 00:05:27,424 Speaker 3: also teased that disk track throughout the whole show. 128 00:05:27,744 --> 00:05:28,904 Speaker 1: That's what everyone was leaning. 129 00:05:28,664 --> 00:05:30,744 Speaker 3: For until he played it right at the end. I 130 00:05:30,784 --> 00:05:32,824 Speaker 3: love the cameo by Serena Williams. 131 00:05:33,224 --> 00:05:35,104 Speaker 2: Did you see that? It was very sure. 132 00:05:35,264 --> 00:05:37,384 Speaker 3: She did a little dance. She loves dancing. She danced 133 00:05:37,384 --> 00:05:40,184 Speaker 3: for Beyonce in that music video. That was a direct 134 00:05:40,344 --> 00:05:44,064 Speaker 3: I think dig at Drake because in Kendrick Lamar's song 135 00:05:44,264 --> 00:05:46,104 Speaker 3: Not Like Us, the one that he was playing at 136 00:05:46,104 --> 00:05:48,664 Speaker 3: the end, there is a line about not speaking on 137 00:05:48,704 --> 00:05:52,224 Speaker 3: Serena because Drake had talked about previously how he dated Serena. 138 00:05:52,304 --> 00:05:54,224 Speaker 3: And I think the whole disc track, a lot of 139 00:05:54,224 --> 00:05:57,264 Speaker 3: it is about Kendrick wanting to protect everyone who's from 140 00:05:57,344 --> 00:06:00,344 Speaker 3: his area from Compton against like those words from people 141 00:06:00,384 --> 00:06:01,144 Speaker 3: outside of it. 142 00:06:01,584 --> 00:06:03,584 Speaker 1: Sorry, it's Serena Williams, the star of the super Bowl. 143 00:06:03,904 --> 00:06:06,424 Speaker 1: She's starring in the halftime show. She's defending Taylor slips, 144 00:06:06,424 --> 00:06:08,464 Speaker 1: she's getting a photo taken like she thinks she's the 145 00:06:08,464 --> 00:06:09,624 Speaker 1: breakout some to do. 146 00:06:10,424 --> 00:06:13,584 Speaker 2: He's so good, Scissa amazing. 147 00:06:14,064 --> 00:06:15,424 Speaker 3: We all knew she was going to come on. I 148 00:06:15,464 --> 00:06:18,224 Speaker 3: love the songs that they chose. I think his actual 149 00:06:18,264 --> 00:06:21,304 Speaker 3: performance and the dancing and the coordination and everything was 150 00:06:21,384 --> 00:06:24,344 Speaker 3: just so well done. He played the bangers like he 151 00:06:24,344 --> 00:06:26,544 Speaker 3: played the songs that everyone loved. Plus he played ones 152 00:06:26,544 --> 00:06:29,104 Speaker 3: that a lot of people people behind me did it. 153 00:06:30,144 --> 00:06:32,744 Speaker 1: Okay, we've made so many enemies in the office right now, 154 00:06:32,784 --> 00:06:33,944 Speaker 1: we can't leave the studio. 155 00:06:34,304 --> 00:06:35,864 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think it just shows that you and 156 00:06:35,904 --> 00:06:38,584 Speaker 3: I it's a lesson learnt when it's award season. When 157 00:06:38,624 --> 00:06:41,904 Speaker 3: it's Super Bowl halftime shows, we're just watching it together. Yeah, 158 00:06:41,944 --> 00:06:43,744 Speaker 3: we're watching it together in our studio because we just 159 00:06:43,904 --> 00:06:45,304 Speaker 3: I think that you're the only person I can now 160 00:06:45,304 --> 00:06:45,984 Speaker 3: watch stuff with. 161 00:06:46,384 --> 00:06:47,984 Speaker 1: Well that's good because no one's going to want to 162 00:06:47,984 --> 00:06:49,264 Speaker 1: watch anything with us after this. 163 00:06:50,304 --> 00:06:52,824 Speaker 2: Sorry, don't fire us, but the truth had to be told. 164 00:06:55,144 --> 00:06:56,784 Speaker 1: And now when you to talk about my version of 165 00:06:56,824 --> 00:06:59,744 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, which is award season, which is so 166 00:06:59,824 --> 00:07:02,224 Speaker 1: many recently, we had so many and so many more 167 00:07:02,264 --> 00:07:04,824 Speaker 1: to go. So the Critics' Choice Awards was held over 168 00:07:04,864 --> 00:07:06,784 Speaker 1: the weekend. There was a little bit of back and 169 00:07:06,784 --> 00:07:09,104 Speaker 1: forth of whether it should take place or not because 170 00:07:09,144 --> 00:07:11,384 Speaker 1: of the LA fires, and some people were saying it 171 00:07:11,424 --> 00:07:14,224 Speaker 1: was really disrespectful when so many people lost their homes 172 00:07:14,264 --> 00:07:17,624 Speaker 1: and all their lives to have this big Hollywood Awards event. 173 00:07:18,024 --> 00:07:20,064 Speaker 1: And people have also been talking about like should they 174 00:07:20,104 --> 00:07:22,864 Speaker 1: cancel the Oscars, should they cancel the SAG Awards. But 175 00:07:22,904 --> 00:07:24,744 Speaker 1: I'm kind of of the opinion that you should keep 176 00:07:24,784 --> 00:07:26,824 Speaker 1: going on with these sort of award ceremonies. Not for 177 00:07:26,864 --> 00:07:29,464 Speaker 1: the celebrities involved, because they'll be fine, but just think 178 00:07:29,504 --> 00:07:32,424 Speaker 1: of all the people who like do the catering, who 179 00:07:32,704 --> 00:07:34,904 Speaker 1: do all the services that are around it, like their 180 00:07:34,904 --> 00:07:38,344 Speaker 1: hair and makeup assistance and the drivers, the security. Like 181 00:07:38,424 --> 00:07:39,944 Speaker 1: a lot of those people are in the gig economy 182 00:07:39,944 --> 00:07:42,784 Speaker 1: where they only get paid if they work the events. 183 00:07:42,864 --> 00:07:43,984 Speaker 1: So I was like, I don't think we should be 184 00:07:44,024 --> 00:07:46,544 Speaker 1: taking their income away from them. It's a stage to 185 00:07:46,544 --> 00:07:46,944 Speaker 1: the game. 186 00:07:46,864 --> 00:07:50,504 Speaker 3: Platform to like call out for donations. Yeah, everyone in 187 00:07:50,544 --> 00:07:51,544 Speaker 3: the world will be. 188 00:07:51,544 --> 00:07:54,744 Speaker 1: Watching exactly what they did the Grammys. Yeah, and they 189 00:07:54,784 --> 00:07:57,384 Speaker 1: had the first responders there, so a few exciting moments. 190 00:07:57,424 --> 00:08:00,464 Speaker 1: So obviously the Critics' Choice Awards doesn't really tell us 191 00:08:00,504 --> 00:08:02,384 Speaker 1: how the OSCARS is going to unfold because it's a 192 00:08:02,384 --> 00:08:05,664 Speaker 1: different voting body. But it does give Oscar voters, because 193 00:08:05,664 --> 00:08:07,504 Speaker 1: they've still got a few more weeks to vote, does 194 00:08:07,704 --> 00:08:09,344 Speaker 1: give them a little idea of like who will make 195 00:08:09,344 --> 00:08:11,944 Speaker 1: a great speech? You know, all that sort of stuff. 196 00:08:11,984 --> 00:08:14,104 Speaker 1: So a couple of exciting winners I went through and 197 00:08:14,144 --> 00:08:16,504 Speaker 1: I picked out like, who would Emily Vernon be excited about? 198 00:08:17,024 --> 00:08:19,384 Speaker 2: I love this So I didn't watch it sadly. 199 00:08:19,704 --> 00:08:20,864 Speaker 1: Well that's okay. I watched it for you. 200 00:08:20,944 --> 00:08:21,584 Speaker 2: Thank you so. 201 00:08:21,784 --> 00:08:24,824 Speaker 1: Best Picture. This was a real shock one of our 202 00:08:24,864 --> 00:08:27,784 Speaker 1: favorite movies that has been kind of ignored all award season, 203 00:08:27,864 --> 00:08:30,624 Speaker 1: finally got its due and that was Anora winning Best Picture. 204 00:08:31,544 --> 00:08:35,584 Speaker 2: It is such a good film. I'm so happy about. 205 00:08:35,264 --> 00:08:38,064 Speaker 1: That, so good. It's one of those movies remember last 206 00:08:38,104 --> 00:08:40,304 Speaker 1: year any Awards. I know last year when you and 207 00:08:40,384 --> 00:08:42,344 Speaker 1: I saw it and we sort of saw how excited 208 00:08:42,344 --> 00:08:44,584 Speaker 1: people were for it, I was thinking, this is just 209 00:08:44,624 --> 00:08:47,424 Speaker 1: going to sweep the Oscars. It's going to sweep award season. 210 00:08:47,424 --> 00:08:50,064 Speaker 1: It's going to be unstoppable. And it had that momentum 211 00:08:50,104 --> 00:08:51,944 Speaker 1: for a little while and then it kind of petered out. 212 00:08:51,944 --> 00:08:54,384 Speaker 1: And now like the Substance and Conclave have kind of 213 00:08:54,424 --> 00:08:56,224 Speaker 1: an Amelia pros which we'll get to have kind of 214 00:08:56,224 --> 00:08:56,784 Speaker 1: taken over. 215 00:08:57,384 --> 00:08:58,064 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 216 00:08:58,104 --> 00:09:00,304 Speaker 1: That is exciting. No one else has reported on this, 217 00:09:00,384 --> 00:09:03,184 Speaker 1: but I thought that you would care. Best Animated Series 218 00:09:03,464 --> 00:09:06,784 Speaker 1: went to X Men ninety seven. Oh my god, I 219 00:09:06,944 --> 00:09:10,944 Speaker 1: love actually I know, wait they won. They won Animated 220 00:09:11,024 --> 00:09:14,224 Speaker 1: Series again. Not a god. I completely forgot. You're so 221 00:09:14,344 --> 00:09:17,864 Speaker 1: bosted right now. Not a highly contested area, and no 222 00:09:17,904 --> 00:09:19,184 Speaker 1: one's reporting on it. But I was like, you know, 223 00:09:19,184 --> 00:09:21,544 Speaker 1: who's going to cary about that? Emily Vernon, Because Emily 224 00:09:21,584 --> 00:09:24,304 Speaker 1: and I both recommended this show last year as not 225 00:09:24,384 --> 00:09:26,744 Speaker 1: just a great animated show, but just an amazing show. 226 00:09:26,744 --> 00:09:28,264 Speaker 1: It's on Disney Plus if you haven't watched it. 227 00:09:28,384 --> 00:09:31,544 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is so good. I'm so excited. 228 00:09:32,264 --> 00:09:33,944 Speaker 1: I need to take a picture for something of you 229 00:09:33,984 --> 00:09:35,824 Speaker 1: for this Spillers. You're like sitting back in your chair, 230 00:09:35,864 --> 00:09:37,824 Speaker 1: your hands are on your head. You look so excited. 231 00:09:37,864 --> 00:09:38,424 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 232 00:09:38,504 --> 00:09:40,784 Speaker 2: Because now they might make another season. 233 00:09:40,704 --> 00:09:43,384 Speaker 1: Yes potentially. I mean they're not going to sleep Oscars. 234 00:09:43,624 --> 00:09:44,424 Speaker 2: I believe I missed that. 235 00:09:44,544 --> 00:09:46,104 Speaker 1: I know. I'm here to tell you to me. 236 00:09:46,424 --> 00:09:47,664 Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a good one. 237 00:09:47,744 --> 00:09:49,824 Speaker 1: So it was a pretty exciting award ceremony in terms 238 00:09:49,824 --> 00:09:51,744 Speaker 1: of like, it wasn't the same winners over and over 239 00:09:51,744 --> 00:09:54,304 Speaker 1: again as we've seen with other shows. Plus Chelsea Handler 240 00:09:54,344 --> 00:09:57,064 Speaker 1: was hosting, and she's always a great host. 241 00:09:57,304 --> 00:09:58,464 Speaker 2: Did she feel a bit hard? 242 00:09:58,744 --> 00:10:01,464 Speaker 1: She did a little bit. So she did make a 243 00:10:01,504 --> 00:10:05,624 Speaker 1: Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni joke off the bat. Obviously 244 00:10:05,624 --> 00:10:07,704 Speaker 1: they weren't there at anything at the moment, but it 245 00:10:07,784 --> 00:10:08,744 Speaker 1: is important. 246 00:10:08,304 --> 00:10:12,064 Speaker 4: In times like these to have a just and that's 247 00:10:12,104 --> 00:10:15,864 Speaker 4: why I want to personally extend my gratitude to Justin 248 00:10:15,944 --> 00:10:22,464 Speaker 4: Baldoni and Blake lively, thank you for providing us with 249 00:10:22,544 --> 00:10:23,424 Speaker 4: that distraction. 250 00:10:23,744 --> 00:10:27,624 Speaker 1: I'm grateful. I think we're all grateful, and I think 251 00:10:27,664 --> 00:10:30,664 Speaker 1: we're good. Oh yeah, so she basically stop now, I 252 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,504 Speaker 1: think we can all agree it ends with us. Stopped 253 00:10:32,504 --> 00:10:34,704 Speaker 1: telling us information. So it was a pretty light joke. 254 00:10:34,744 --> 00:10:36,384 Speaker 1: It was pretty safe joke, but just the fact that 255 00:10:36,424 --> 00:10:39,064 Speaker 1: she touched it because a lot of people in Hollywood 256 00:10:39,144 --> 00:10:41,144 Speaker 1: haven't wanted to touch it, just because you know, it's 257 00:10:41,264 --> 00:10:43,624 Speaker 1: seen as taking a side, not something to joke about. 258 00:10:43,664 --> 00:10:46,064 Speaker 2: But Chelsea Handler just went, that's an open case as well. 259 00:10:46,464 --> 00:10:48,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. But she was basically like she didn't 260 00:10:48,664 --> 00:10:51,384 Speaker 1: take sides. She'd allude to people having sides in the room, 261 00:10:51,624 --> 00:10:53,544 Speaker 1: but she said, like, we're not taking sides. Are basically 262 00:10:53,584 --> 00:10:55,944 Speaker 1: just sick of hearing about it. I'm personally not sick 263 00:10:55,944 --> 00:10:57,984 Speaker 1: of hearing about it because we're invested, but I feel 264 00:10:57,984 --> 00:11:00,744 Speaker 1: like some people might be. She also made a few 265 00:11:00,824 --> 00:11:03,664 Speaker 1: jokes at the expense of the Wicked cast. First of all, 266 00:11:03,704 --> 00:11:06,384 Speaker 1: she gave this huge shout out to Cynthia Orrin. I 267 00:11:06,424 --> 00:11:07,344 Speaker 1: saw that on my TikTok. 268 00:11:07,384 --> 00:11:10,064 Speaker 2: It was such a beautiful like ode to Cynthia basis. 269 00:11:10,104 --> 00:11:12,144 Speaker 1: I was like, Chelsea Handler, you never talk like this 270 00:11:12,184 --> 00:11:14,624 Speaker 1: the Uoka, So she did that, but then she kind 271 00:11:14,624 --> 00:11:17,464 Speaker 1: of joked about the Wicked table and John m Chwo 272 00:11:17,504 --> 00:11:19,864 Speaker 1: won Best Director, which is also a big surprise because 273 00:11:19,904 --> 00:11:25,144 Speaker 1: he loved excited you're getting again because he was also 274 00:11:25,184 --> 00:11:27,744 Speaker 1: thought to maybe sweep award season and hasn't so far, 275 00:11:27,984 --> 00:11:29,904 Speaker 1: maybe for Wicked Part two, which is coming and he. 276 00:11:29,904 --> 00:11:31,904 Speaker 3: Deserves it, not just for Wicked, but like all of 277 00:11:31,944 --> 00:11:35,344 Speaker 3: his previous exactly really, so the cast were very excited 278 00:11:35,384 --> 00:11:35,704 Speaker 3: for him. 279 00:11:35,704 --> 00:11:38,344 Speaker 1: But then Chelsea Handler in her monologue, she was like, 280 00:11:38,344 --> 00:11:40,024 Speaker 1: I don't know about the rest of you, guys. I 281 00:11:40,064 --> 00:11:41,904 Speaker 1: loved the Wicked Press too. I loved how they were 282 00:11:41,904 --> 00:11:44,024 Speaker 1: all over each other. And then she goes, I remember 283 00:11:44,024 --> 00:11:48,064 Speaker 1: the first time I did, Molly. But then she made 284 00:11:48,064 --> 00:11:50,504 Speaker 1: a little reference to a little bit of a romance 285 00:11:50,544 --> 00:11:52,864 Speaker 1: that was happening in the cast, and the room went silent. 286 00:11:53,104 --> 00:11:55,424 Speaker 4: It's so nice to see some of our most beloved 287 00:11:55,504 --> 00:12:00,504 Speaker 4: child stars all grown up and thriving. Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez, and. 288 00:12:00,344 --> 00:12:10,544 Speaker 5: Arianna Grande are all nominated tonight, and now Arianna has 289 00:12:10,584 --> 00:12:12,064 Speaker 5: even found love with a munchkin. 290 00:12:13,024 --> 00:12:15,184 Speaker 3: Oh was that the first time that someone's called out 291 00:12:15,184 --> 00:12:17,064 Speaker 3: their relationship publicly like. 292 00:12:17,024 --> 00:12:19,384 Speaker 1: That, yeah, I mean again, it felt like, from our 293 00:12:19,424 --> 00:12:21,264 Speaker 1: point of view, it felt like a very tame joke 294 00:12:21,344 --> 00:12:23,144 Speaker 1: because we've been joking about her falling in love with 295 00:12:23,184 --> 00:12:25,864 Speaker 1: the Munchkin well since it happened filming over two years ago. 296 00:12:26,144 --> 00:12:27,904 Speaker 1: As you know, I've reneged on that because I met 297 00:12:27,904 --> 00:12:30,104 Speaker 1: that man in real life and he's lovely. But so 298 00:12:30,144 --> 00:12:31,944 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I get why she's like fallen 299 00:12:31,984 --> 00:12:33,984 Speaker 1: in love with him, But it's the first time it's 300 00:12:33,984 --> 00:12:35,984 Speaker 1: been said at like a big awards show in front 301 00:12:36,024 --> 00:12:37,984 Speaker 1: of them that I can see that we've had access to. 302 00:12:38,344 --> 00:12:40,424 Speaker 1: I think everyone else has really stayed away from that 303 00:12:40,504 --> 00:12:42,904 Speaker 1: kind of joke, And so it was kind of funny, 304 00:12:42,984 --> 00:12:44,904 Speaker 1: like as she was making the Molly joke, like Ariana 305 00:12:44,944 --> 00:12:47,584 Speaker 1: Grande was like had her hands buried in her face 306 00:12:47,624 --> 00:12:49,384 Speaker 1: and she was laughing though when she's going to Cynthia, 307 00:12:49,384 --> 00:12:52,584 Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh my god, and Cynthia's laughing and clapping, 308 00:12:52,624 --> 00:12:54,984 Speaker 1: and then they made the munchkin joke, and they both 309 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:57,224 Speaker 1: kind of just like Ethan and Arianna looked at each 310 00:12:57,224 --> 00:12:59,464 Speaker 1: other very strangely, and the room kind of seemed to 311 00:12:59,504 --> 00:13:02,224 Speaker 1: go quite quiet. Everyone's like, no, we don't talk about that. 312 00:13:02,984 --> 00:13:03,904 Speaker 2: Yeah, cringe. 313 00:13:04,384 --> 00:13:06,544 Speaker 1: The other exciting thing now, I know I was the 314 00:13:06,584 --> 00:13:08,904 Speaker 1: one who said, I didn't think that nobody wants this 315 00:13:08,984 --> 00:13:11,264 Speaker 1: should win all the acting awards that you'd maybe win 316 00:13:11,344 --> 00:13:13,744 Speaker 1: for writing, and it hasn't really won too much going 317 00:13:13,744 --> 00:13:16,984 Speaker 1: forward in this award season, they've wanted acting award in there. Yes, 318 00:13:17,064 --> 00:13:20,504 Speaker 1: Adam Brody won for Best Actor in a Comedy Series. 319 00:13:20,584 --> 00:13:22,184 Speaker 2: Oh my god, who did he beat out? He would 320 00:13:22,184 --> 00:13:22,504 Speaker 2: have been in. 321 00:13:22,544 --> 00:13:24,824 Speaker 1: Out, like yeah, a whole bunch of people. But it 322 00:13:24,864 --> 00:13:26,704 Speaker 1: was quite cute because he's sitting at the nobody wants 323 00:13:26,704 --> 00:13:30,024 Speaker 1: his table, obviously, and they all erupted in like cheers 324 00:13:30,024 --> 00:13:32,464 Speaker 1: and screams. And then he got up on stage and 325 00:13:32,504 --> 00:13:34,344 Speaker 1: you know how he and late me story, I'm not 326 00:13:34,504 --> 00:13:37,544 Speaker 1: super public, like they've been walking a few award show 327 00:13:37,584 --> 00:13:40,184 Speaker 1: red carpets together recently, but they really never talk about 328 00:13:40,224 --> 00:13:42,744 Speaker 1: their relationship or put it out there in any way. 329 00:13:42,984 --> 00:13:44,464 Speaker 1: And then he got up on stage and said this, 330 00:13:44,544 --> 00:13:47,224 Speaker 1: and even my cold dead heart was like warmed a little. 331 00:13:47,224 --> 00:13:53,304 Speaker 6: And my darling, darling darling wife laden, thank you, thank 332 00:13:53,384 --> 00:13:57,504 Speaker 6: you for sharing this life with me and this journey 333 00:13:57,544 --> 00:13:58,984 Speaker 6: with me. Thank you for a family. 334 00:13:59,704 --> 00:14:01,464 Speaker 1: Love you with all my heart and I'm a bit 335 00:14:01,504 --> 00:14:04,824 Speaker 1: of a sat But the cutest part came she was 336 00:14:04,904 --> 00:14:07,664 Speaker 1: really crying. I mean they've had a traumatic few weeks 337 00:14:07,704 --> 00:14:10,304 Speaker 1: since the last award show. Their entire house, their entire 338 00:14:10,464 --> 00:14:12,424 Speaker 1: house went down yet along with I know, with lots 339 00:14:12,464 --> 00:14:14,304 Speaker 1: of other people, but it would still make you feel 340 00:14:14,624 --> 00:14:17,664 Speaker 1: really sad. Yeah, So she was really crying in the audience. 341 00:14:17,744 --> 00:14:19,784 Speaker 1: And then when he got back down to the table, 342 00:14:20,184 --> 00:14:22,384 Speaker 1: I'm such a creep, but I'm so sorry. They had 343 00:14:22,424 --> 00:14:25,424 Speaker 1: the most passionate kiss when after like five hours I 344 00:14:25,464 --> 00:14:28,544 Speaker 1: think I've ever seen anyone have it made every TV 345 00:14:28,664 --> 00:14:30,384 Speaker 1: kiss he's ever had, and she's in her head just 346 00:14:30,424 --> 00:14:34,584 Speaker 1: look like absolutely nothing. When I was watching, and I'm like, damn, 347 00:14:34,624 --> 00:14:35,704 Speaker 1: that is a good kiss. 348 00:14:36,024 --> 00:14:38,424 Speaker 2: Do you think they've planned it? No, in spare at 349 00:14:38,424 --> 00:14:38,984 Speaker 2: the moment. 350 00:14:38,944 --> 00:14:41,104 Speaker 1: No, I just yeah, he came down to the table. No, 351 00:14:41,144 --> 00:14:42,944 Speaker 1: they're just married in love and he was on stage 352 00:14:42,944 --> 00:14:45,424 Speaker 1: talking about his love for her so publicly for the 353 00:14:45,464 --> 00:14:47,904 Speaker 1: first time. She's sitting at the table and she's like 354 00:14:47,944 --> 00:14:51,304 Speaker 1: got tears running down her perfect face, like wet kiss. Yeah, 355 00:14:51,304 --> 00:14:52,664 Speaker 1: and then he came up and it's kind of cluse. 356 00:14:52,744 --> 00:14:55,304 Speaker 1: She just such a group She just kind of like 357 00:14:55,464 --> 00:14:57,864 Speaker 1: fell into him and they had It's a kind of 358 00:14:57,944 --> 00:15:00,744 Speaker 1: kiss that people don't do on TV because they're worried 359 00:15:00,784 --> 00:15:02,744 Speaker 1: to look bad on camera, you know, like when people 360 00:15:02,744 --> 00:15:04,864 Speaker 1: are doing TV kisses, they have to hold their mouths 361 00:15:04,904 --> 00:15:06,344 Speaker 1: back a little bit and they have to get the 362 00:15:06,384 --> 00:15:10,264 Speaker 1: camera to yep, you can't kiss how you would normally kiss, 363 00:15:10,384 --> 00:15:13,144 Speaker 1: because you lose each other's faces. So that was just 364 00:15:13,144 --> 00:15:15,384 Speaker 1: a real kiss. And I don't know who uploaded it 365 00:15:15,384 --> 00:15:17,384 Speaker 1: and who'd got that sneaky moment, but it was like 366 00:15:17,464 --> 00:15:18,904 Speaker 1: the most romantic thing I've ever seen. 367 00:15:19,024 --> 00:15:22,184 Speaker 2: Oh that's so cute, so cute. 368 00:15:22,984 --> 00:15:26,264 Speaker 1: So the other interesting winner of the night was Zoe Saldana, 369 00:15:26,304 --> 00:15:28,544 Speaker 1: who won for Best Supporting Actress in a Film for 370 00:15:28,624 --> 00:15:31,864 Speaker 1: Amelia Perez, and also Demi Moore won for Best Actress, 371 00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:34,504 Speaker 1: So they're kind of locked for those categories now like 372 00:15:34,544 --> 00:15:38,544 Speaker 1: for a while, pretty much just from how everything's going 373 00:15:38,584 --> 00:15:40,944 Speaker 1: with all the different voting bodies that lead up to 374 00:15:40,984 --> 00:15:44,984 Speaker 1: it choice exactly, and especially if they win the SAD 375 00:15:45,024 --> 00:15:46,664 Speaker 1: because that's the best way to tell who's going to 376 00:15:46,744 --> 00:15:49,024 Speaker 1: win an Oscar because it has the biggest voting crossover 377 00:15:49,104 --> 00:15:51,224 Speaker 1: of the two bodies. So yess that's a done deal, 378 00:15:51,264 --> 00:15:53,664 Speaker 1: which is nice. So Zoe Saldana got up and it 379 00:15:53,704 --> 00:15:55,544 Speaker 1: was so funny because she had to call it her 380 00:15:55,584 --> 00:15:58,744 Speaker 1: husband for stepping out of the room back from the bathroom. 381 00:15:58,784 --> 00:16:02,984 Speaker 3: He went to the bathroom. 382 00:16:03,264 --> 00:16:07,904 Speaker 1: Why would he go to the bar? I guess like 383 00:16:07,984 --> 00:16:10,144 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't know her category was coming up next to. 384 00:16:10,664 --> 00:16:11,864 Speaker 2: There's no way you wouldn't know. 385 00:16:12,064 --> 00:16:13,584 Speaker 1: I feel like they'd come over and make sure the 386 00:16:13,624 --> 00:16:15,744 Speaker 1: nominees are in their places because a lot of people 387 00:16:15,784 --> 00:16:17,824 Speaker 1: go outside when it's not their category to the bar 388 00:16:17,944 --> 00:16:20,064 Speaker 1: or bathrooms and like all the good stuff happens outside 389 00:16:20,064 --> 00:16:20,344 Speaker 1: the room. 390 00:16:20,464 --> 00:16:22,584 Speaker 3: That's something my mum would do, Like, I know my 391 00:16:22,704 --> 00:16:24,184 Speaker 3: mom does it all the time. Can I tell a 392 00:16:24,224 --> 00:16:26,744 Speaker 3: quick side story. Yeah, the other day we were at 393 00:16:26,744 --> 00:16:29,304 Speaker 3: a polarates class. We got there ten minutes early. Yeah, 394 00:16:29,304 --> 00:16:30,744 Speaker 3: She's like, I really need to go bathroom. I was like, 395 00:16:30,784 --> 00:16:33,424 Speaker 3: go now, she didn't go. We get in the party's 396 00:16:33,424 --> 00:16:35,264 Speaker 3: class just before the classmen to start. She's like, I'm 397 00:16:35,264 --> 00:16:36,664 Speaker 3: just going to run out and go to the bathroom. 398 00:16:36,744 --> 00:16:39,704 Speaker 1: You're like mom, mom, and well classes your mom and 399 00:16:39,824 --> 00:16:42,664 Speaker 1: Zolie Seldana's husband have a similar issue. So it's so 400 00:16:42,704 --> 00:16:44,304 Speaker 1: funny how she was just calling her out. Then she 401 00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:47,064 Speaker 1: went on as well, they're very cute by the way, 402 00:16:47,144 --> 00:16:50,064 Speaker 1: He's like, he's very hot artist. They have three boys, 403 00:16:50,064 --> 00:16:52,784 Speaker 1: and he took her last name. Oh, I was very cute. 404 00:16:52,944 --> 00:16:53,504 Speaker 2: Nice last name. 405 00:16:53,584 --> 00:16:55,424 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a nice last name. So the other 406 00:16:55,424 --> 00:16:57,344 Speaker 1: thing about Zoey cell Dana's win, I mean a lot 407 00:16:57,344 --> 00:16:58,424 Speaker 1: of people are very excited that. 408 00:16:58,504 --> 00:17:01,384 Speaker 3: I was actually quite surprised that she won, not because 409 00:17:01,584 --> 00:17:04,184 Speaker 3: of like her performance or anything. I haven't actually watched 410 00:17:04,184 --> 00:17:06,504 Speaker 3: the film, but because of everything that's going on with. 411 00:17:06,504 --> 00:17:09,024 Speaker 1: The film in general. That's the interesting thing that she 412 00:17:09,104 --> 00:17:11,304 Speaker 1: obviously didn't get in to. But there is quite a 413 00:17:11,344 --> 00:17:13,784 Speaker 1: lot of drama happening around Amelia Perez at the moment, 414 00:17:13,824 --> 00:17:15,784 Speaker 1: and she has already spoken a little bit on it, 415 00:17:15,984 --> 00:17:18,344 Speaker 1: not at the Critics' Choice Awards where she won. It's 416 00:17:18,344 --> 00:17:20,544 Speaker 1: just hard because she's having one of those Awards season 417 00:17:20,624 --> 00:17:23,104 Speaker 1: runs where everyone's like, oh, we should give it to 418 00:17:23,184 --> 00:17:25,344 Speaker 1: zoe Seldana because she's a great actress and she's been 419 00:17:25,384 --> 00:17:27,464 Speaker 1: around for a long time, but this isn't her best 420 00:17:27,504 --> 00:17:29,984 Speaker 1: role and this movie is like, there's a lot of 421 00:17:29,984 --> 00:17:32,424 Speaker 1: content around this movie and now a lot of real 422 00:17:32,464 --> 00:17:34,984 Speaker 1: life drama. So at first, it felt like this big 423 00:17:35,024 --> 00:17:38,824 Speaker 1: fairytale story with Amelia Perez. Aside from so many critics 424 00:17:38,824 --> 00:17:41,864 Speaker 1: and people hating it, it was this big success story 425 00:17:41,904 --> 00:17:44,824 Speaker 1: for a foreign film that had this CASTI so it's 426 00:17:44,864 --> 00:17:47,504 Speaker 1: like Zoe Saldana and Selena Goatman and all these people 427 00:17:47,544 --> 00:17:49,264 Speaker 1: that people love who were like so excited they were 428 00:17:49,304 --> 00:17:52,144 Speaker 1: getting awards bars it started winning all of the awards, 429 00:17:52,144 --> 00:17:55,664 Speaker 1: but like most importantly Krla Sophia Gascon, who is the 430 00:17:55,704 --> 00:17:58,544 Speaker 1: lead actress in the movie, is the first openly trans 431 00:17:58,584 --> 00:18:01,304 Speaker 1: performer to be nominated for an Oscar but also to 432 00:18:01,384 --> 00:18:03,224 Speaker 1: win a lot of these awards, So it was really 433 00:18:03,264 --> 00:18:07,944 Speaker 1: seen as this huge trailblazing thing to have Krla be 434 00:18:08,144 --> 00:18:10,104 Speaker 1: so front and center, to be having all this critical 435 00:18:11,064 --> 00:18:14,304 Speaker 1: and then Amelia Perez got thirteen Oscar nominations, so one 436 00:18:14,344 --> 00:18:17,144 Speaker 1: of the most nominated films, definitely the most Oscar nominated 437 00:18:17,184 --> 00:18:20,144 Speaker 1: film of this year, but also just overall, like you know, 438 00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:22,304 Speaker 1: setting records all this sort of stuff, and then it 439 00:18:22,384 --> 00:18:25,064 Speaker 1: seemed like Amelia Pereres was just a lock to win 440 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:29,344 Speaker 1: all the Oscars, especially Best Picture. And then some tweets 441 00:18:29,384 --> 00:18:34,264 Speaker 1: that Carlo Sophia Gascon had previously posted on Twitter started 442 00:18:34,264 --> 00:18:36,784 Speaker 1: going viral. So it was a journalist who went back 443 00:18:36,824 --> 00:18:39,744 Speaker 1: through Carla's Twitter account to find all of these different 444 00:18:39,864 --> 00:18:44,064 Speaker 1: really offensive tweets. Interestingly, before that, she was already starting 445 00:18:44,104 --> 00:18:46,064 Speaker 1: to get in it, which is why I think people 446 00:18:46,104 --> 00:18:48,064 Speaker 1: really started digging, is that she was already starting to 447 00:18:48,104 --> 00:18:50,184 Speaker 1: get in a little bit of trouble. She was accused 448 00:18:50,224 --> 00:18:54,304 Speaker 1: of violating the OSCAR rules around bad talking fellow nominees 449 00:18:54,344 --> 00:18:56,824 Speaker 1: and trying to like disrupt their campaigns. 450 00:18:56,624 --> 00:18:57,624 Speaker 2: About what she was doing. 451 00:18:57,944 --> 00:19:00,744 Speaker 1: Well, she says no. So what happened was that she 452 00:19:00,864 --> 00:19:03,824 Speaker 1: made some statements about the Best Actress Oscar ees and 453 00:19:03,984 --> 00:19:07,024 Speaker 1: it looked like she was accusing you know, Fernando Torres, 454 00:19:07,064 --> 00:19:10,304 Speaker 1: who's also nominated and gave a really outstanding performance, is 455 00:19:10,464 --> 00:19:14,344 Speaker 1: also nominated for Best Actress. And Carla was giving an 456 00:19:14,424 --> 00:19:17,864 Speaker 1: interview where she was talking about, well, people think she 457 00:19:17,904 --> 00:19:20,784 Speaker 1: was talking about Fernanda trying to diminish her work, and 458 00:19:20,824 --> 00:19:23,024 Speaker 1: she said, well, I don't like a social media teams 459 00:19:23,064 --> 00:19:25,224 Speaker 1: and people who work with these people trying to diminish 460 00:19:25,264 --> 00:19:28,064 Speaker 1: our work, like me my movie that doesn't lead anywhere. 461 00:19:28,464 --> 00:19:31,344 Speaker 1: And then she got called out later on with people saying, like, 462 00:19:31,464 --> 00:19:33,904 Speaker 1: you're bad talking Fernanda. You're not allowed to do that. 463 00:19:33,944 --> 00:19:36,704 Speaker 1: Here's the thing with the Oscars race. You can sabotage 464 00:19:36,824 --> 00:19:40,064 Speaker 1: someone else and spread you know, rumors and stuff about 465 00:19:40,104 --> 00:19:43,184 Speaker 1: them and potentially turn people against them, but you got 466 00:19:43,224 --> 00:19:44,704 Speaker 1: to do it behind the scenes. You can't do it 467 00:19:44,704 --> 00:19:48,224 Speaker 1: in interviews where she was bad talking her. Then she 468 00:19:48,264 --> 00:19:50,304 Speaker 1: got called out for it, and people said, you're violating 469 00:19:50,304 --> 00:19:53,584 Speaker 1: the Oscars campaign. So you can't like openly campaign for it. 470 00:19:53,624 --> 00:19:55,464 Speaker 1: You can't be like put up posters, been like vote 471 00:19:55,464 --> 00:19:57,224 Speaker 1: for me, like people have got in trouble for that. 472 00:19:57,304 --> 00:20:01,344 Speaker 1: You can't bad talk fellow contestants. So then Carla came 473 00:20:01,384 --> 00:20:03,264 Speaker 1: out and said, I have never at any points at 474 00:20:03,304 --> 00:20:06,544 Speaker 1: anything bad about Fernanda Torres or her movie. However, there 475 00:20:06,584 --> 00:20:09,664 Speaker 1: are people working with Fernanda Torres tearing me and Amelia 476 00:20:09,704 --> 00:20:13,344 Speaker 1: Preys down. That speaks more to their movie than mine. 477 00:20:13,464 --> 00:20:15,384 Speaker 1: And then she came out and said that when she 478 00:20:15,464 --> 00:20:18,624 Speaker 1: was accused of trying to like break the Oscar nominations rules, 479 00:20:19,104 --> 00:20:22,424 Speaker 1: she said that this is false information and it's trying 480 00:20:22,464 --> 00:20:25,624 Speaker 1: to like undercut her achievement basically, so that she. 481 00:20:25,584 --> 00:20:28,104 Speaker 2: Started doing that, which is what got people dig. 482 00:20:28,104 --> 00:20:30,264 Speaker 1: Which is what I think got people digging because they're like, oh, 483 00:20:30,304 --> 00:20:32,864 Speaker 1: there's this best actress, like not front Runner because like 484 00:20:32,904 --> 00:20:35,104 Speaker 1: people think Denny Moore is gonna win, but also the 485 00:20:35,144 --> 00:20:38,544 Speaker 1: first trans performer to be nominated like actress in that category. 486 00:20:38,584 --> 00:20:40,184 Speaker 1: So it was this huge thing and part of like 487 00:20:40,224 --> 00:20:41,904 Speaker 1: one of the most talked about movies of the year. 488 00:20:42,344 --> 00:20:44,464 Speaker 1: And then she was accused of trying to tamper with 489 00:20:44,504 --> 00:20:46,744 Speaker 1: the Oscar race. So obviously a lot of journalists like, 490 00:20:46,784 --> 00:20:49,824 Speaker 1: there's a story here, and then one particular journalist was 491 00:20:49,864 --> 00:20:52,384 Speaker 1: started going right back through her tweets, like on X 492 00:20:52,424 --> 00:20:55,424 Speaker 1: as it's now called, and found that all these tweets 493 00:20:55,544 --> 00:21:00,864 Speaker 1: really offensive, racist, islamophobic tweets about different things, but also 494 00:21:00,984 --> 00:21:04,664 Speaker 1: even about the Oscars, Like she'd previously tweeted about the Oscars. 495 00:21:04,944 --> 00:21:06,624 Speaker 1: More and more of the oscars are looking like a 496 00:21:06,664 --> 00:21:10,024 Speaker 1: ceremony for intendent and protest films. I don't know if 497 00:21:10,024 --> 00:21:12,624 Speaker 1: I was watching an Afro Korean festival, a Black Lives 498 00:21:12,624 --> 00:21:16,144 Speaker 1: Meta demonstration or the eight m apart from that, an ugly, 499 00:21:16,264 --> 00:21:19,584 Speaker 1: ugly gala. And then oh my god, yeah, I won't 500 00:21:19,584 --> 00:21:20,824 Speaker 1: go too into it because some of the stuff is 501 00:21:20,824 --> 00:21:23,624 Speaker 1: pretty terrible. But she also said this during the pandemic 502 00:21:23,944 --> 00:21:27,224 Speaker 1: the Chinese vaccine apart from the mandatory chip, comes with 503 00:21:27,304 --> 00:21:29,904 Speaker 1: two spring rolls, a cat that moves its hand, two 504 00:21:29,944 --> 00:21:33,464 Speaker 1: plastic flowers, a pop up lantern, three telephone lines, and 505 00:21:33,504 --> 00:21:37,024 Speaker 1: one euro for your first controlled purchase. Okay, And then 506 00:21:37,064 --> 00:21:38,944 Speaker 1: she went on saying some stuff about China, saying, so 507 00:21:38,984 --> 00:21:41,584 Speaker 1: many scientists in the world making bombs, so many scholars 508 00:21:41,584 --> 00:21:45,024 Speaker 1: constructing objects from space, so many medical factories, and there's 509 00:21:45,064 --> 00:21:46,944 Speaker 1: no one who can get in line with this Chinese shit. 510 00:21:47,424 --> 00:21:49,144 Speaker 1: In the end, it was a tremendous show for a 511 00:21:49,144 --> 00:21:52,384 Speaker 1: new variant of flu avian or coronavirus. She went on 512 00:21:52,424 --> 00:21:54,984 Speaker 1: to say, like a lot of other really islamophobic tweets 513 00:21:55,024 --> 00:21:56,904 Speaker 1: and a lot of things about the Black Lives Matter 514 00:21:56,944 --> 00:21:57,864 Speaker 1: movement and George. 515 00:21:57,624 --> 00:22:01,744 Speaker 3: George Floyd, so yeah, a lot of racist comments, extremely. 516 00:22:01,304 --> 00:22:03,584 Speaker 1: Colleking, m drug adult and all this sort of stuff. 517 00:22:03,624 --> 00:22:06,544 Speaker 1: So basically, then she came out when all of that 518 00:22:06,664 --> 00:22:09,344 Speaker 1: really blew up and said one said. She said people 519 00:22:09,384 --> 00:22:11,224 Speaker 1: were trying to bring her down and destroy her and 520 00:22:11,264 --> 00:22:12,544 Speaker 1: this is a targeted campaign. 521 00:22:12,664 --> 00:22:15,104 Speaker 2: And she also hasn't come to like the award shows either. 522 00:22:15,264 --> 00:22:17,584 Speaker 1: Yeah, she said it has been taken out of context. Well, 523 00:22:17,624 --> 00:22:19,544 Speaker 1: she kind of goes out of context. She's gone back 524 00:22:19,544 --> 00:22:21,264 Speaker 1: and forth a few times. A few times she sort 525 00:22:21,264 --> 00:22:23,504 Speaker 1: of said like, I'm really sorry for what's happened, and 526 00:22:23,544 --> 00:22:24,984 Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm trying to be better, but then 527 00:22:24,984 --> 00:22:27,504 Speaker 1: she'll also say that it's a campaign against her and 528 00:22:27,504 --> 00:22:29,224 Speaker 1: it's been taken out of context, and she kind of 529 00:22:29,224 --> 00:22:32,104 Speaker 1: is going back and forth between the two things. And 530 00:22:32,184 --> 00:22:34,744 Speaker 1: so what it's now been alleged is that because obviously 531 00:22:34,744 --> 00:22:36,944 Speaker 1: this is a Netflix movie and they were really you know, 532 00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:40,384 Speaker 1: pushing it to be their first major Oscar success, to 533 00:22:40,424 --> 00:22:42,664 Speaker 1: sweep the awards, and they have put a lot of 534 00:22:42,704 --> 00:22:46,104 Speaker 1: money behind all the campaigns, but particularly behind Carla's campaign, 535 00:22:46,624 --> 00:22:47,544 Speaker 1: and now it's. 536 00:22:47,304 --> 00:22:48,144 Speaker 2: Like they've taken her up. 537 00:22:48,264 --> 00:22:48,464 Speaker 6: Now. 538 00:22:48,864 --> 00:22:51,624 Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's thought that she's been really removed from it, 539 00:22:51,664 --> 00:22:54,624 Speaker 1: and they're like trying to exclude her from the Oscar 540 00:22:54,664 --> 00:22:58,264 Speaker 1: campaign because they're quite worried it'll hurt their chances because 541 00:22:58,304 --> 00:23:01,624 Speaker 1: Oscar voting doesn't close till the eighteenth of February, so 542 00:23:01,664 --> 00:23:03,504 Speaker 1: we still have a bit of time. And this has 543 00:23:03,544 --> 00:23:05,984 Speaker 1: been happening for it like at least two weeks already, 544 00:23:06,104 --> 00:23:06,464 Speaker 1: which is. 545 00:23:06,464 --> 00:23:09,464 Speaker 3: Also something that we should criticize, right, Like I think 546 00:23:09,464 --> 00:23:12,504 Speaker 3: I've seen so many tiktoks of people who are part 547 00:23:12,544 --> 00:23:15,344 Speaker 3: of the Amelia Perez movie saying that they're not having 548 00:23:15,344 --> 00:23:17,784 Speaker 3: anything to do with her and taking her off. But like, 549 00:23:18,304 --> 00:23:21,064 Speaker 3: we have to really analyze the reason why, and I 550 00:23:21,064 --> 00:23:22,984 Speaker 3: think the main reason why is exactly what we said, 551 00:23:23,024 --> 00:23:25,024 Speaker 3: is because it's going to hurt that Oscar campaign, not 552 00:23:25,064 --> 00:23:26,304 Speaker 3: because it's the right thing to. 553 00:23:26,184 --> 00:23:28,504 Speaker 1: Do, oh one hundred percent. So it's always Soldane has 554 00:23:28,504 --> 00:23:30,384 Speaker 1: been asked about it a few times and she hasn't 555 00:23:30,424 --> 00:23:32,784 Speaker 1: really said too much, but she was at a London 556 00:23:32,824 --> 00:23:34,904 Speaker 1: event and a Q and A for the film and 557 00:23:34,984 --> 00:23:37,064 Speaker 1: she was said, it makes me really sad. I don't 558 00:23:37,064 --> 00:23:39,784 Speaker 1: support it. I don't have any tolerance for any negative 559 00:23:39,864 --> 00:23:42,464 Speaker 1: rhetoric towards people of any group. She didn't think go 560 00:23:42,504 --> 00:23:44,504 Speaker 1: on to say that her personal experience with everyone in 561 00:23:44,544 --> 00:23:47,944 Speaker 1: the film was very positive, but she understands that this 562 00:23:48,064 --> 00:23:51,144 Speaker 1: is really upsetting and also it's potentially really hurt her 563 00:23:51,264 --> 00:23:53,184 Speaker 1: Oscar campaign as well. Like I think she'll be the 564 00:23:53,304 --> 00:23:55,864 Speaker 1: only one to be okay in it, but it has 565 00:23:56,104 --> 00:23:59,424 Speaker 1: hurt the overall movies. Events and then the director Jacques 566 00:23:59,464 --> 00:24:02,784 Speaker 1: Auditard said of Khla and he was a bit more 567 00:24:02,944 --> 00:24:05,304 Speaker 1: forthcoming said, I haven't spoken to her, and I don't 568 00:24:05,344 --> 00:24:07,824 Speaker 1: want to. She's in a self destructive approach that I 569 00:24:07,864 --> 00:24:10,144 Speaker 1: can't interfere with. And I really don't understand why she's 570 00:24:10,344 --> 00:24:13,824 Speaker 1: continuing from his point of view too, like she was 571 00:24:13,864 --> 00:24:15,784 Speaker 1: meant to be on a flight for this big awards season, 572 00:24:15,824 --> 00:24:17,624 Speaker 1: Like before the Critics Choice Awards, there was like a 573 00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:19,224 Speaker 1: big luncheon. There was meant to be a big event, 574 00:24:19,304 --> 00:24:21,104 Speaker 1: and Carla has been absent from all of that. 575 00:24:21,184 --> 00:24:23,144 Speaker 2: And she's like such a prominent character in the movie. 576 00:24:23,224 --> 00:24:25,024 Speaker 1: She's the leader of the movie, and so much is 577 00:24:25,064 --> 00:24:27,904 Speaker 1: hooked on her. And now so much of the Oscar 578 00:24:28,024 --> 00:24:32,344 Speaker 1: campaign is in this moment now before voting closes, where 579 00:24:32,504 --> 00:24:35,424 Speaker 1: you have all the different events and like the luncheons 580 00:24:35,464 --> 00:24:38,224 Speaker 1: and the panels and the SAgs and all that sort 581 00:24:38,224 --> 00:24:40,464 Speaker 1: of stuff, and the Critics Choice and you have all 582 00:24:40,544 --> 00:24:42,544 Speaker 1: the people who are voting in that room, so you 583 00:24:42,544 --> 00:24:44,384 Speaker 1: can go and talk to them and shmooths them. Like 584 00:24:44,664 --> 00:24:46,864 Speaker 1: a lot of people who really report and like the 585 00:24:46,864 --> 00:24:50,464 Speaker 1: intricacies of how an Oscar race works have said that, 586 00:24:50,544 --> 00:24:52,864 Speaker 1: like awards can be won and lost in those rooms, 587 00:24:52,864 --> 00:24:55,544 Speaker 1: at those luncheons, at those talks at those dinners in 588 00:24:55,584 --> 00:24:57,984 Speaker 1: the lead up to the Oscars if you don't campaign correctly, 589 00:24:58,344 --> 00:25:00,144 Speaker 1: and then now not only is she not there and 590 00:25:00,184 --> 00:25:02,584 Speaker 1: all her cast and crew are angry won't speak to her, 591 00:25:02,824 --> 00:25:05,464 Speaker 1: but there's this whole ugliness happening around her tweets. 592 00:25:05,824 --> 00:25:09,384 Speaker 3: God, it sounds quite frustrating. And the thing is, though, 593 00:25:09,424 --> 00:25:11,704 Speaker 3: I feel like Amelia Pereirees as a movie as a 594 00:25:11,704 --> 00:25:15,784 Speaker 3: whole has been criticized oh ye, way, like regardless of 595 00:25:15,824 --> 00:25:19,344 Speaker 3: everything that Carl has done in terms of like representation 596 00:25:19,904 --> 00:25:22,944 Speaker 3: and like the diversity of the cast and crew. But 597 00:25:23,184 --> 00:25:26,144 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, this has just tipped it over the edge. 598 00:25:26,224 --> 00:25:29,384 Speaker 3: But I do hope that this hasn't impacted Zoe's in. 599 00:25:30,024 --> 00:25:31,984 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it will. I'm also kind of 600 00:25:31,984 --> 00:25:33,944 Speaker 1: like less worried about Zoe. I mean, I don't think 601 00:25:33,944 --> 00:25:36,584 Speaker 1: she should win for this movie, but I think she's 602 00:25:36,624 --> 00:25:40,064 Speaker 1: had a really long, impressive career. But also I don't 603 00:25:40,064 --> 00:25:41,944 Speaker 1: know she's been in the highest gracing movies of the world. 604 00:25:42,144 --> 00:25:42,904 Speaker 2: But she's fine. 605 00:25:42,944 --> 00:25:44,624 Speaker 1: Part of me is like, the money is the reward, 606 00:25:44,664 --> 00:25:48,824 Speaker 1: Like you'll be okay Avatar, Yeah, no, give it to 607 00:25:48,864 --> 00:25:51,344 Speaker 1: her for Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh yeah, she's actually 608 00:25:51,504 --> 00:25:54,184 Speaker 1: great enough. I was so on board with her getting 609 00:25:54,264 --> 00:25:58,144 Speaker 1: an Oscar for Gomora. I mean, she didn't say that, 610 00:25:58,224 --> 00:26:00,824 Speaker 1: but that's I know. I'm more upset about the fact 611 00:26:00,824 --> 00:26:04,544 Speaker 1: that the oscars are still really not inclusive on so 612 00:26:04,664 --> 00:26:07,144 Speaker 1: many levels. And this is the first time an openly 613 00:26:07,224 --> 00:26:11,024 Speaker 1: transactress has been nominated for this award, and that is 614 00:26:11,064 --> 00:26:12,784 Speaker 1: such a huge thing, and that would have meant so 615 00:26:12,864 --> 00:26:14,424 Speaker 1: much to so many people. And what it should have 616 00:26:14,504 --> 00:26:17,944 Speaker 1: done is open the door for transactresses to be not 617 00:26:18,024 --> 00:26:20,504 Speaker 1: only in movies about that experience, but you know, be 618 00:26:20,624 --> 00:26:23,624 Speaker 1: in rom coms, being dramas, be in Marvel movies. And 619 00:26:23,984 --> 00:26:25,624 Speaker 1: it should have been this big thing and now it's 620 00:26:25,664 --> 00:26:29,784 Speaker 1: all being completely overshadowed because yeah, because of all this 621 00:26:30,024 --> 00:26:32,104 Speaker 1: backlash and tweets and everything, and it's like you can't 622 00:26:32,104 --> 00:26:36,104 Speaker 1: hold a whole community accountable, ye for one person's actions. 623 00:26:36,104 --> 00:26:38,304 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's was meant to be this big history 624 00:26:38,344 --> 00:26:40,584 Speaker 1: making moment, So I hate that it's unfolding like this. 625 00:26:40,744 --> 00:26:43,984 Speaker 1: But hopefully like there'll be more actresses and actors in 626 00:26:44,024 --> 00:26:46,424 Speaker 1: those categories coming through, but yeah, it's not looking good. 627 00:26:46,464 --> 00:26:47,224 Speaker 1: Familiar prayers. 628 00:26:47,664 --> 00:26:50,144 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening to the spill today. 629 00:26:50,224 --> 00:26:51,864 Speaker 3: If you want to see any of the videos from 630 00:26:51,984 --> 00:26:54,824 Speaker 3: critics choice, we've supposed that all over our Instagram page. 631 00:26:54,864 --> 00:26:57,584 Speaker 3: You can follow us at The Spill podcast and comment 632 00:26:57,704 --> 00:27:00,024 Speaker 3: let us know what you think. 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