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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm table Strano. This is Mumma MEA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quikie. What the heck is a honeypop pad?

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Speaker 2: And why are so many women posting about the on TikTok?

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Speaker 2: Ever thought of getting your lips filled? No, not those lips,

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Speaker 2: those lips. Today we're checking in on our vaginas to

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Speaker 2: see what's happening with the latest lavier trends and period

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Speaker 2: products and how they can impact our health. But first,

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Speaker 2: here's Claire Murphy with the latest from the Quickie Newsroom, Monday,

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Speaker 2: December sixteenth.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. In April two thousand and five, nine young

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Speaker 1: Australians made a decision that would forever change their lives

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Speaker 1: when they attempted to smuggle eight point three kilos of

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Speaker 1: heroin valued at approximately four million dollars, from Indonesia to Australia. Now,

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Speaker 1: nearly twenty years later, the five remaining members have been

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Speaker 1: allowed to return home, waking up this morning for their

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Speaker 1: Matthew Norman, ce Ye Chen, Martin Stephens, and Michael Shugaj

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Speaker 1: to Indonesia's new president for making it happen. Back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and five, the group we now refer to

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Speaker 1: Four members Scott Rush, Michael Sugaj, Martin Stephens, and Renee

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Speaker 1: Lawrence were apprehended at Dempasa Airport with heroines strapped to

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Speaker 1: The remaining members, Muren Sagramarin, ce Ye Chen, Matthew Norman,

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Speaker 1: The judicial process that followed saw varying sentences handed down.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Chan and Myrin Skamaran, identified as the ringleaders, received

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Speaker 1: the harshest penalties. Both handed death sentences. The remaining members

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Speaker 1: were initially sentenced to life imprisonment, though Renee Lawrence's sentence

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Speaker 1: in Australia, when the Indonesian President was visiting, she spoke

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Speaker 3: The message would be to put a plea towards him

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Speaker 3: if he could reconsider giving the boys that are still

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Speaker 1: In that interview, she said that she remained angry at

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Speaker 1: Australian authorities who tipped off Indonesian police about the smuggling ring.

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Speaker 1: The AFP would later say they didn't realize just how

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Speaker 3: apologize greatly for that, but they're still human. Everybody makes mistakes,

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Speaker 3: Everybody deserves the second chance.

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Speaker 1: After spending ten years on death row, despite numerous appeals

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Speaker 1: Australian government. Andrew Chan and Mara and Sukamarain were executed

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Speaker 1: their time in prison, both men had shown remarkable rehabilitation.

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Speaker 1: Chan became involved in pastoral care and started first did

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Speaker 1: and cooking classes, while Sukamarain established art programs and pursued

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Speaker 1: from cancer in twenty eighteen while serving his sentence. Renee Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: death of Holly Bowls and Bianca Jones after drinking methanol

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Speaker 1: Local authorities are investigating and consular assistance is being provided

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Speaker 1: for all of those who've been affected. Prince William has

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Speaker 1: sat down with IT head Lasso star Hannah Waddingham at

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Speaker 1: Jamie Fox has posted that the Devil is busy, but

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Speaker 2: That's what's going on in the world today. Next from

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Speaker 2: a cool, fresh minty crotches to puffing up your LaBier.

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Speaker 2: We do a vaginal check in to make sure we're

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Speaker 2: your female body list. Today, we're exploring a new trend

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Speaker 2: doing the rounds of cosmetic procedures known as the LaBier puff.

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Speaker 2: The latest problem area defined by whichever cosmetic surgeon decided

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Speaker 2: and the standard aging process. With modern pornography rarely showing

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Speaker 2: a woman with a single pubic care, the focus on

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Speaker 2: Labiaplastic rates have increased as women become concerned they're not

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Speaker 2: now a new procedure known as the labia puff is

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Speaker 2: designed to restore volume and fullness to the labia majora,

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Speaker 2: can be done in either of two ways. The first

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Speaker 2: then purified and carefully injected into the lapy majora at

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Speaker 2: it uses the patient's own tissue, reducing the risk of rejection. Alternatively,

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Speaker 2: higher on acid fillers can be used to add volume.

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Speaker 2: This option requires about thirty minutes to complete and uses

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Speaker 2: The standard side effects include redness of the injection site,

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Speaker 2: ten days. The outcome varies, though depending on the method

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Speaker 2: you choose. Fat transfer is generally permanent and immediately noticeable,

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Speaker 2: although some fat cells can be absorbed by the body.

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Speaker 2: The dermal filler option, though, is also instant, but temporary,

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Speaker 2: and requires touch ups every nine to twelve months. In Australia,

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Speaker 2: While specific labia puffing costs can vary related intimate area

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Speaker 2: procedures typically range from the four thousand dollar mark all

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Speaker 2: this procedure when performed for purely cosm reasons. So what

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Speaker 2: other regions? Claire Murphy caught up with doctor Nicole Stamatopolis.

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Speaker 1: Doctor, thank you so much for joining us today. Can

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Speaker 1: we start off with LaBier puffing? And I believe that

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Speaker 1: the reason behind it, and what the medical professionals who

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Speaker 4: Is that actually true?

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Speaker 5: It's not something that I've particularly thought about, to be honest,

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Speaker 5: guess they probably won't go to a plastic surgeon for that.

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Speaker 4: Kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: I guess with any part of the body, with time

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Speaker 5: and with age, you do lose some integrity of the skin.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know that necessarily the LaBier are affected

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Speaker 5: the vagina in general. So I wouldn't necessarily think it's

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Speaker 5: something that's as coon skin on the face when you

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Speaker 5: look at it in context of aging. Potentially, yes, but

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Speaker 5: not for the reasons that normally it is to do

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Speaker 5: with the rest of the skin.

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Speaker 1: Well, can we talk about these cosmetic procedures, because there

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Speaker 1: seems to be two ways that you can do this

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Speaker 1: laba puffing, and one is to take fat from another

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Speaker 1: and the other is to use a feeler like you

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Speaker 1: talk about what the potential risks of both of those

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Speaker 5: I think it's always very tricky in the pereneal area

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Speaker 5: because there's lots of nerve endings, and there's lots of sensitivity,

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Speaker 5: and anything that we do down there can have impact

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Speaker 5: arousal and for intercourse. So I think that's first of all,

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Speaker 5: something that needs to be known, that anything that happens

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Speaker 4: I'd like to know what the evidence is around.

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Speaker 5: How safe those products are to actually inject in that space,

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Speaker 5: because the volva in the vaginal area is not like

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Speaker 4: So I suspect those.

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Speaker 5: Things still apply for that area, and I would expect

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Speaker 1: Can we that took about what changes your labor go

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Speaker 4: To be another reason why you're more sensitive as.

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Speaker 1: Just finally, on this topic, how do you feel about

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Speaker 5: I think it's very personal about how people feel. And

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Speaker 5: I think my biggest issue with people who have labia

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Speaker 4: Bunch of normal. What your normal is is not somebody else's.

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Speaker 5: And if it's coming from a partner, let me tell

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Speaker 4: So they need some perspective, you think.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So the other vaginally related trend that's been kicking

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Speaker 3: I felt like I put mentha down there, like I

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Speaker 4: Why do I feel a sensation?

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Speaker 1: Why do I feel a minty, fresh flavor.

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Speaker 4: Coming from the pus. What is going on?

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Speaker 1: I was so confused, felt I'm gonna put her lip

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Speaker 3: Now it is confused with meant, but I was not

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Speaker 2: The company Honeypot was founded by a black woman in

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Speaker 2: One version is known for its distinctive cooling sensation created

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Speaker 2: by the use of menthol and other essential oils and experience.

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Speaker 2: Some are found helpful in relieving period discomfort, while others

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Speaker 1: Doctor, can you see any benefit in having essential oils

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Speaker 1: Women have become increasingly skeptical of pads and tampons in

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Speaker 4: I would expect there'd.

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Speaker 5: Be some kind of I mean, I was a pharmacist before,

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Speaker 4: Get the absorptive factor to it. So that's one thing.

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Speaker 5: The menstrual cup has become quite popular with patients, but

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