1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,800 Speaker 1: This episode of CZA is brought to you by Stan 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: and their exclusive new series Everything I Know About Love, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: based on the best selling memoir by Dolly Alderton. If 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: you love the bowl type an younger, then this series 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: is for you, streaming now only on Stan. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: You do fear of oh shit, if I step out 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: of this, someone else can take my spot. So if 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 2: I step out of this, I'm not going to be 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: able to come back and catch up. And it's just 10 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: proven the pull in that if you do do it, 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: and you do take that time off, and you do 12 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 2: try and explore and expand, great things can come from that. 13 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: Just go for it, give it a go, and it 14 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,199 Speaker 2: doesn't work out, you've learnt something from it, and go 15 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: back again if you and try harder next time, or 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: use those mistakes as positives to learn and just and 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: give it go. 18 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to the C's the YA Podcast. Busy and happy 19 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what 20 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing we work, then we rest, but 21 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and 23 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found live say adore 24 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: the good, bad, and ugly. The best and worst day 25 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your yea. I'm 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned 27 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels to co found 28 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: matcha Maiden and matcha Milk Bar. Sez the Ya is 29 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: a series of conversations on finding a life you love 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: and exploring the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: the way. Lovely Neighborhood. I doubt there are many of 32 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: you listening who haven't drawled once or twice over Chris 33 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: Hemsworth's body before. I mean, you're only human, right, Well, 34 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: you may not have realized though you were actually drawling 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: over our guest for this week, yep. I am thrilled 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: to have Chris's legendary body double and professional stuntman, Bobby 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Holland Hanton on the show this week. Bobby has worked 38 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: on many major Hollywood blockbuster films including Thor, The Avengers, Batman, 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: Captain America, Wonder Woman, Mission Impossible, Star Wars, What Hasn't. 40 00:01:59,560 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: He Been In? 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: As well as hit TV show Game of Thrones, earning 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: him our host of awards, including eight Screen Actors Guild 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Awards and two Emmys. You know, I love having all 44 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: sorts of pathways on the show, and we all see 45 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: stunt doubles all the time, but I've never actually thought 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: about how you become one, So this chat was an 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: absolute blast. It kind of makes sense that Bobby's beginnings 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: were in gymnastics, starting as young as four, and then 49 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: building up to becoming a gold medallist for Great Britain 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: and competing all around the world, a career interesting and 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: multifaceted in itself that you'll hear all about. Plus, Bobby 52 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: isn't just a pretty face slush body. He's also just 53 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: this week released his first ever children's picture book, The 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: Adventures of Eddie and Flip Boy. He'll tell you more 55 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: about that exciting launch himself. So I am so excited 56 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: to introduce this week Bobby Holland handon, Bobby Dazzler. I 57 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: feel like that's your name in my brain. Welcome to 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: the show. 59 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: Thank you very much. It kind of is my name now, 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: it's been It's been my nickname for a very long time, 61 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: so I think everyone knows me as that for sure. 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, where did that come from? 63 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: Actually? Funny enough, really weird story. I was nineteen years old. 64 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: I was actually doing a pantomime in Southampton, local to 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 2: where I'm from, and I was playing an acrobat in 66 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: this pantomime and there was a sipe staff from our 67 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: huge show in UK Extenders. We got together and it 68 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 2: was kind of in the paper in the press, and 69 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: they called me the Bobby Dazlar and it's just stuck 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: since I was nineteen, So yeah, it's been a while. 71 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: I love it because you just dazzle everyone. 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: I'll take that for sure, that we can take. We 73 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: can go with that. That's fine. 74 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: Well, you might know already that a part of this 75 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: show is going back to those sort of early days 76 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: in Southampton. And you know, if people meet you right 77 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: now in your life, it's really easy to assume you 78 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: always knew where you were going and that this was 79 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: always your goal and it was a smooth sailing, and 80 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, ninety nine percent of the time it's not there. 81 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: But before we get into that, I'd love to ask 82 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: our little icebreaker, which is just what the most down 83 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: to worth thing is about you. And I think because 84 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: most people we do know you as Bobby Dazzler and 85 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: see you in movies and in Hollywood and doing all 86 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: these incredible things. It's hard to remember there's just a dude, 87 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: you know, behind the scenes. So what's something really normal 88 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: about you? 89 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: I think, if I'm honest, it's I'm just one big kid, 90 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: and I really I shouldn't. I'm a big kid adults body, 91 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: and I've got no intentions of growing up. I know 92 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: I have to at some point, no intentions doing it 93 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: right now. I love having fun. I love pranking my family, 94 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: friends and just just messing about. I probably mess about 95 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: too much. I would have to cob at some point. 96 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I think there is absolutely no such thing. If you 97 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: ever met my husband, you guys would get along like 98 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: a house on fire. He spent half of the wedding 99 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: last night throwing ice cubes and little limes in everyone 100 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: else's class. It was a great time. Yeah, he's really 101 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: really that sounds. 102 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: Exactly what my type of guy that is. That's what 103 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: I'll be doing as well. 104 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, well, you've definitely ended up in a path 105 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: yay as we call them. That very much suits that 106 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: kind of exciting, dynamic side of you. But can you 107 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: take us back to your earlier self, Like, what were 108 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: you like as a kid you know, what were your 109 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: first jobs or first kind of ideas of what you 110 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: wanted to be. I know you started in a very 111 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: different industry, which is so cool, Yeah. 112 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: Jim, I think as a kid, I mean, my mom's 113 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 2: happy to say this, one of those kids had so 114 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: much energy that it was I just didn't know how 115 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 2: to use it. So in some ways it I ended 116 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: up being naughty because I just had so much energy 117 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: to trying it rid of. And my sister, it's three 118 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: years older than me, and she started gymnastics when she 119 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: was seven and I was four, and my mum was like, look, 120 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: we've got to try something and get trying to dispurse 121 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: some of this energy. So I started gymnastics at a 122 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: very young age and it became very intensive, very quickly, 123 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 2: you know. And then fast forward to seventeen. At that 124 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: point I was comparing for Great Britain and I've been 125 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: doing gymnastics since I was four to seventeen, and it 126 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 2: was five six days a week, most of the time 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: between three and five hours a day. So I still, 128 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 2: even during that period, had way too much energy. And 129 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: I was training that much and I played a bit 130 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: of football as well, so if I didn't do gymnastics. 131 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 2: I'd hate to say where I'd be right now because 132 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: I had too much energy, way too much. 133 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: I love how you were, Like I did a bit 134 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: of football. You were like semi professional for Fareham Town 135 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: Football Club, like actually playing in a league. Just just 136 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: a little bit of football in there. 137 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was in like a short period of time. 138 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: But I really put that down to my body of 139 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: work as a gymnast from such a young age. It 140 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 2: just put me in great stead. When I gave up, 141 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 2: you know, everything that came a little bit easier because 142 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 2: of that. I was very fast, and I think, you know, 143 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: i'd recommend gymnastics to any child for a base for anything, 144 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 2: even if you don't want to take it to the 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: highest level. If you can get to a good standard, 146 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 2: it will literally put you in great stead for any 147 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: sport you want to do after that. Yeah. 148 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely. I was a ballerina when I was younger and 149 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: did that up until I was about fifteen or maybe fourteen. 150 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: Same thing like doing okay, yeah, yeah, like that whole 151 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: Like you start when you're three and you're like, alli's 152 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: a bit of fun and a good way to get 153 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: rid of some energy, and you know, calm, I kind 154 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: of borderline ADHD and then you get to like, you know, 155 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: it becomes a professional pathway really quickly. But it teaches 156 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: you so much discipline and how to manage yourself and 157 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: how to set goals, and you know, it's that formative 158 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: stuff that even if you don't go on to do 159 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: it later, it kind of stays with you for life. 160 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly, and that's when we're moving on to 161 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: this in a minute with a book. But that's exactly 162 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: what it does. Do it regardless of keeping you fit, 163 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 2: and you know, it gives you that very early on, 164 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: you know how to work hard, the work ethic, the discipline. 165 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: If you want to achieve something, you have to work 166 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: your ass off to achieve it. And you want to 167 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: be the best, you need to do more than most. 168 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's you know, it's very important for 169 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: like you said, life skills and you know, moving on 170 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: to anything you do, you know that you've already had 171 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: that as a young age and it's kind of embedded 172 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: in you. That's exactly how I feel, exactly what's happened 173 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: to me. 174 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: It's also really interesting that you know you're retired from 175 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: your first career, at seventeen. That's kind of most people 176 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: haven't even started their first job by seventeen, and you 177 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: already had an entire career and then retired and had 178 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, let go of that identity 179 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: and find a new one, which is really jarring and 180 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: something that most people aren't maybe brave enough to do 181 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: at all in their life, let alone so young. And 182 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: then you know multiple times, So what was that, Like 183 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: what made you decide that you were going to change direction? 184 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: I kind of imagine being seventeen and just deciding, like, 185 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: I've competed for my country, but I'm going to shift 186 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: my focus. And you know, you were performing you mentioned pantomimes. 187 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: I know that you were doing stunts, like starting to 188 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: kind of do stunts and a bit of modeling. So 189 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: how did you shift that goalpost at such a young age. 190 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: It actually wasn't in my foresight of what was going 191 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: to happen. It was kind of within a six month period. 192 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: It was a very small gymnast until I hit about 193 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 2: between fourteen fifteen and had a huge growth spurt and 194 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: you know, within an eighteen month period, which most successful 195 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: gymnasts are small and I want to more until that 196 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: growth spart It put a lot of stress on my 197 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 2: lower back. And then I had a Russian coach that 198 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: left and went to America, so I, you know, I 199 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: lost my Russian coach, I had a back injury, and 200 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: I got to tour. It was like literally three major 201 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: major things that you do not want to happen to 202 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: you as a gymnast, and they happened in quick succession. 203 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: So it was a decision that needed to be made, 204 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 2: you know, and I wanted to turn my attention to football. 205 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: You know. I've always always loved it, always enjoyed it, 206 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: you know, but it was just had no time because 207 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: the Gramatics took that time up so much, didn't allow 208 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 2: me to play football. So it was really tough. And 209 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: at seventeen years old, you were kind of at that 210 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: age where you're, you know, just finishing school and you're 211 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 2: meeting girls and you're going up driving, and it was 212 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 2: I wasn't prepared for it. It was tough. It was 213 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: really tough, but I managed to you know, could have 214 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: quite easily gone down the wrong the wrong road, and 215 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: I managed to kind of gain football, turn it around 216 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: and then and then join an agency to do live shows. 217 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 2: So it kind of got me out of that that 218 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 2: period that could have been real bad. 219 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I think that's that's a really interesting 220 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: reminder that things like sport or physical activity or you know, 221 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: being part of a community or a team in some way, 222 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: especially at that formative age, can help ground you in 223 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: a sense of belonging or a sense of like distracting 224 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: you from all the other things you could be doing 225 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: that actually kind of save you from other pathways that 226 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: you could have gone down. So amazing that sport was 227 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 1: such a recurring theme for you before we move on 228 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: to sort of how you then trained full time to 229 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: do stunts, and you know, I think it's it's so 230 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: cool because it's one of those careers that we see 231 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: every day, but no one's really thought of how you 232 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: become a stunt man, like what is the career path 233 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: to do that? But first I wanted to ask, like, 234 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: it's currently this week is International Men's Health Week, and 235 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: I just randomly had this question about you know, it's 236 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: so cool now to be a gymnast and to do 237 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: all kinds of sport. You know, gyms in the Olympics, 238 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: it's you know, you know that the dudes are ripped 239 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: and like it's a really cool thing to do. But 240 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: I think when you're younger, it's very different to football. 241 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: You know, you're like wearing micra earlier than most guys do, 242 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: when you're doing kinds of different stretching. Did you find 243 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: that it was Did you get you know, teased at 244 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: all for doing it? Was it hard to kind of explain. 245 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 2: Massively when I was a kid, like, there wasn't as 246 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: many boy gymnasts. It just wasn't because you know exactly 247 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 2: that reason you do in that young age, you know, 248 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 2: girls did it, not many boys did it. It took it 249 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: took time for boys to get into it, and for 250 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: me to be wearing a leotide at school, you know that. 251 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 2: You know, I look bullied for that, and I think 252 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: I remember I get into about fifteen years old and 253 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 2: or fourteen years old, and I remember doing a back 254 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 2: summers on the playground and everyone's like, oh my god, 255 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 2: did everyone just see that? And then you become the 256 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: most popular kid in school. So it turns around pretty quickly. 257 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: But there was a period, you know, a good few 258 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: years where it was, you know, I didn't want to 259 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: go anymore. It pushed me to that point of you know, 260 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 2: I don't want to go gymestics, Moore. I don't want 261 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: to get teased anymore. And my mum was so amazing 262 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 2: in that respective. Just just trust me and just keep going, 263 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: keep going, this will pay off. Don't give up. You've 264 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: worked too hard for this to just you know, knock 265 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 2: it on the head. And now I look back and 266 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 2: I'm just so thankful that she made me continue, made 267 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 2: me go, because there were lots many times, you know, 268 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: I can't encount on my hands how many times I'd 269 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: kick and scream and not want to go, and she 270 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: just kept you know, she's stuck in there and said going. 271 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 2: And now you know, I can't thank her enough and 272 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: be sitting here now talking to you about, you know, 273 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: the things I'm proud of. So it's my mum. 274 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: I love that so much. I think it's you know, 275 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: in any career path that's a little bit different. You know, 276 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: it's it's not cool until one day it's cool, and 277 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: then suddenly everyone wants to be And I'm sure all 278 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: those friends from back then are like coming out of 279 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: the woodworks now, like, look what you've made of yourself 280 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: from gymnastics. That's amazing. But you do usually have to 281 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: go through a bit of time where no one gets it. 282 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's when it's so important to have 283 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: people like your mum or a good network or friends 284 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: who support you through it while it's not cool until 285 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: the day that it becomes cool. 286 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. And so I think there's a there 287 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: is something to be said about, you know, getting through 288 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 2: the adversity of going through that pressure of this isn't 289 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 2: people saying it's not call and you're a young kid, 290 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 2: and how to deal with that, And I think, you know, 291 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: it's never nice, And over time, I think you just 292 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: start to build, you know, you start to become a 293 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: stronger person from it. You know, I think there's not 294 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: enough said about that as well. You know that. You know, 295 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 2: I'm not saying, you know, promote people get bullied. I'm 296 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: just saying that when you go through adversity like that, 297 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: it makes you stronger. And if you can pick yourself 298 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: up and keep going, the benefits are they outweigh the 299 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 2: negatives in the end, I think. 300 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And I think one of the big themes 301 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: of this show is that you know, it's all about 302 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: joy and finding your ya, but no theory of joy 303 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: can ignore that actually it's usually the shittier bits that 304 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 1: get you closer to your joy because it teaches you want, 305 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: you know, all the skills you need to get there. 306 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: It teaches you resilience. And I think also like self 307 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: doubt is probably of all the nase ta that we 308 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: talk about, self doubt and imposter syndrome is probably the biggest. 309 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 1: But then on top of that, like we've all got 310 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: our own inner negative self talk, but then if you've 311 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: got outer people also bullying you and telling you what 312 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,719 Speaker 1: not to do, that's like a thousand times harder to 313 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: keep on your pathway and sticking to what you love. 314 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: But look what it did, the fact that you stuck 315 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: to it, Look what. 316 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: Has led to Yeah, and even still now like exactly 317 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: what you touched on them. And I'm you know, more 318 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: than you know. I'm happy to you know, not keep 319 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: this in all the time. But it's like, you know, 320 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: I doubt myself every single day. There's things I'm like, 321 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, to step outside your comfort zone. It's easy too, 322 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 2: and it's subconsciously you don't even think about it. You know, 323 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: I don't want to try that. Oh no, actually, on 324 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: my cow, I don't want to do that because you're 325 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 2: just that worry of failing, or that worry of not 326 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 2: being able to do it, or that worry of being 327 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: laughed at is is powerful if you can take a 328 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 2: step back sometimes and just say, look, if I don't 329 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: do this, I'm going to regred it down the line. 330 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: And if I you know, I think that as much 331 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 2: as you can. People say all the time, you know, failure. 332 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 2: I don't wants to fail, but failure is a is 333 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: a learning curve and it's you know, you'll be better 334 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: the next time. And if you fail again, it you 335 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: should learn from that and just keep learning and learn 336 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: and learning. And it's part of the reason about this book. 337 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: You know, it's never you know, I was never thought 338 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: about doing it ever. And then a friend of mine 339 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: and Tournette as you know, she said, why don't you 340 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: do this? And you know, now I'm you know, I've 341 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: got published in a book. It's out this during. So 342 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: it's just to try those things. It can be so 343 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: rewarding when you don't think it's just you're, like you said, 344 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 2: you've always got the inner self. That's the biggest battle, 345 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: you know, the battles against yourself all the time. 346 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's so reassuring to hear, like for 347 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: so many listeners to hear that someone at your level 348 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: who's done the coolest stuff at the highest levels in Hollywood, 349 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: like constantly hugely successful milestones, that you still get that 350 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: voice in your head when you try something new. I 351 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: think for a long time I was waiting for self 352 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: doubt to disappear, and I was like, I'm not successful 353 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: until it goes away. Now I'm like, you're not successful 354 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: until you can just ignore it. It never goes away, 355 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: you just get better. 356 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: But I still have that now, regardless of the job 357 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: at work, when I'm a stuntman, I have that every 358 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: single time, every single day, always always in there. We 359 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 2: manage to find ways to overcome that and battle it, 360 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: and that that reward is much stronger. 361 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: Totally. And I actually think the day that I turn 362 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: up to something and I don't have a little bit 363 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: of self doubt, I'm probably too complacent, Like I've probably 364 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm probably. 365 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: You don't care about it enough. 366 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah you're not invested. Yeah, totally. So the stunt man 367 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: you have become probably Hollywood's foremost stunt man. I mean 368 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: literally your resume is insane. Obviously most people will know 369 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: that you have body doubled your you know, Chris Hamsworth's 370 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: main body double. You've also been a stunt man for 371 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: Daniel Craig and Christian Bale in like the biggest coolest roles. 372 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: You've got eight SAgs, like two Emmys. I think, like, 373 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the list is at you 374 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: know now, But an incredible, incredible career so far. But 375 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: you had to start somewhere. So how do you even 376 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: shift into this industry, let alone make it to where 377 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: you've got to? What was that kind of trajectory like 378 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: for you and what did you have to learn? Do 379 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: you just start throwing like yourself at stuff and then 380 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: see what happens if you bounce? 381 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: Well, it's so funny because I'm thirty eight. Next week 382 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: I started, you know, my first film was I was 383 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: twenty three. I feel fifty eight. 384 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: Well you've done a lot of bouncing off things, so 385 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: that's fair enough. 386 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. My first film, I was twenty three and 387 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: I stunt double for Daniel Craig and quant Maslis. My 388 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 2: first job. 389 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: That was your first job, my. 390 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: First ever job yet now and it was actually there's 391 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 2: a criteria here in the UK you have to qualify 392 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 2: in six disciplines. You can train from like a possible twelve, 393 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: but you have to qualify in like six skills. So gymnastics, trampolining, 394 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: high diving with three skills I already had from my 395 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: background anyway, so I just took the tests. So I'm 396 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 2: very lucky to already have three ticked off. And then 397 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: I did kickboxing to brown bout level you have to 398 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: have two amateur fights video as proof. And then I 399 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: did swimming and scuba diving, so that made up my 400 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 2: six skills. And just before I'd finished my six skills, 401 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 2: I had done four and had a phone call and 402 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: it was actually from the Stone cornintor Gary Powell, who was, 403 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: you know, a huge, huge coordinator, you know, and some 404 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 2: of the biggest movies. He did see a ray out 405 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: the Last four Bonds whatever it was, you know, he 406 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: calls me and says, oh, you know, we want you 407 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: to come in an audition to stunt double for James Bond. 408 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: And I thought it was a friend of mine that 409 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: was calling to take this. I was like, this is 410 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: a joke, right, So I kind of, you know, I 411 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: was making a joke back. I was like, you know, 412 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: who is this ridiculous, like asking me to do the 413 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 2: job that everyone wants to do is what I'm training for. 414 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: And the phone was went silent, and I'm like, oh shit, 415 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 2: this might be real. 416 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: I've just pissed off the actual contact. 417 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, sir, where'd you need me? He's up Monday, 418 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: nine O'clock's year there. So I come into Timer Studios 419 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: an audition. I ended up going back like three or 420 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: four I think it was four times for quite vigorous 421 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: audition process until he offered me the job and it 422 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 2: was supposed to be six weeks and ended up being 423 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 2: six months. And that was the start and fast forward 424 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: to this. But I actually didn't know anything about stunts 425 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 2: growing up as a kid, and I think it was 426 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: you know, it's unheard of back then, especially with social 427 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: media and the Internet and that type of thing. We 428 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 2: didn't have it. So my only goal as a kid 429 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: growing up when he goes to the Olympics. My hero 430 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: was a better Russian called Vitari Sherbo and he was 431 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: the Olympic gold medalist and I used to watch him 432 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: on TV. We recorded on VHS a step lay. We 433 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 2: record it if it was two recorded and I watched 434 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 2: it the next day. But he was my hero, and 435 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: I wanted to go gymnastics, That's all I had in it. 436 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 2: So I goes to the Olympics for genestics. That's all 437 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: I had in my mind. And I actually didn't even 438 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 2: stumble across stunts and know anything about stunt men until 439 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 2: I got to about twenty one, and I was doing 440 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 2: the high diving show at Lego Land in Windsor. I 441 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: actually know. So I was twenty and I watched Casino 442 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: Royal Daniel Craig's first Bond movie, and then I watched 443 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: the credits come up, and I never watched credits come 444 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: up with any movies, and I was like, oh, this, 445 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 2: this was so cool and how is this work? So 446 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: I watched the credits and I noticed there was a 447 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: name on there, Marvin Campbell, who used to be an 448 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: ex Olympian gymnast that I used to you know, he 449 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: was older than me, but I used to go to 450 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: Lilli Shrum and I used to see him and everyone 451 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 2: used to look, you know, that's that's Marvin. It's Marvin. 452 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, wait a minute, stunt Marvin. 453 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 2: I was like, it was a gymnast. So I then 454 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: researched it a little bit, found out how it works, 455 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: and in the UK we have which is called the BSR, 456 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: the British Stunt Register. So I looked at the criteria 457 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 2: and what I needed to do to train for the 458 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: Stunt Register, and then I just started training and it 459 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: was just it was new. I was like, oh, okay, 460 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: and then I started to rea such more and find 461 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: out more information. But now thanks to social media, thanks 462 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: to the Internet, thanks to stumb performers all over the 463 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: world being able to post and show their stuff at 464 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: what they do, it's now becoming more and more. We 465 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 2: still are crying out and desperate for stumb performers, especially 466 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 2: here in the UK because it's so so busy, especially 467 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 2: with streaming now and movies, that we don't have enough 468 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: stunt performers, so we're crying out for them. But you know, 469 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 2: when I got into it, there was you know, no 470 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 2: one really knew about it. 471 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's so cool, like we've all watched so 472 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: many stunt doubles and probably not even thought about the 473 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: fact that it wasn't the actual actor or actress themselves, 474 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: Like it's just this flies under the radar. But it's 475 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: so crucial and it's so cool that you didn't even 476 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: know about it until you're twenty one, which is when 477 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: most people think that they should have made their forever 478 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: decision about their life. You're finding out about a whole 479 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: new industry and then just kind of googling it off 480 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: the back of watching credits in a movie. Like I 481 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: think people get really siloed into like this is the 482 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: way that you find a career pathway, and this is 483 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: the way that you find a passion. But it can 484 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: come to you in like the weirdest roundabout ways and 485 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: you just look up, like how do you train? Most 486 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: people like I didn't know until I got you on 487 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: the show. I was like, how do you even become? 488 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: Like I didn't even know you could do a qualification 489 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: or that there were areas you have to qualifying. 490 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 2: And in the UK it's there is a criteria. In 491 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 2: the Australia there's a criteria, there's like a registered stunt register. 492 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: In the States there isn't, and the States have the 493 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: most performers on the planet, so it's but you know, 494 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: I guess it becomes word of mouth. But I think 495 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 2: for me to be able to want to because I mean, 496 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: I started doing live acrobatic shows and stunt shows when 497 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: I was nineteen, but I didn't really know anything about 498 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 2: the film and TV until I did a bit more. 499 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 2: And I think if I hadn't had my gymnastics background, 500 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 2: then I would not be doing the job doing today. 501 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: So I already, without me knowing it, I had already 502 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: I was. I was already building a and had a 503 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 2: physical degree in what I you know, which put me 504 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: in good in the best position I could ever wish 505 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 2: for to be a you know, a professional and successful 506 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: stump performer because with your mystics trampling in the high diving, 507 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: the awareness that it gives you spatial awareness and like 508 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 2: we talked about before, work ethic, knowing how you know, discipline, 509 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 2: working hard. Otherwise I wouldn't I wouldn't be doing it. 510 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: So although I, you know, I kind of fell in 511 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: my lap, but I checked out when I was twenty 512 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: one to film and TV. Without me knowing it, I 513 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 2: had already been training really for the since I was 514 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 2: four years old for this, you know. 515 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is so cool. That's like the essence of 516 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: this whole idea of your pathway that you know, you 517 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: don't know when the next chapter is around the corner, 518 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: But you just prepare yourself as best you can for 519 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: whatever comes next, based on what you're good at and 520 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: what you enjoy. And then and you're on the cusp 521 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: of like a whole new chap like a third chapter 522 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: that again I'm sure only recently you probably had no 523 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: idea was coming, which is again so excited that you 524 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: never stopped growing and that you can never stop like 525 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: reinventing yourself and doing new things. But before we get 526 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: to the book, I have to ask you some of 527 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: the like dish the dirt behind the scenes stuff that 528 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: I mean, most of us will just never have access 529 00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: to it or never have the chance to kind of 530 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: find out. So on set for example, when you knew 531 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: that you were going to be James Bond, Like what 532 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: the actual fuck? That's so cool? Do you spend a 533 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: lot of time with Daniel Craig. Do you have to 534 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: learn not only the stunts but like his body language. 535 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: Do you have to train to condition to change your 536 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: shape to be more like obviously like you've Daniel Craig 537 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: is different to Christian Bale is different to you know, 538 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: all the different like Chris, Like they've all got different bodies. 539 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: So how do you prepare to be a person? Do 540 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: you change your hair color? 541 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: Like? 542 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: How do you do all that stuff? 543 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, this is one of the other 544 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 2: things that I take so seriously and being a stunt 545 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: double for an actor is it's up to the stunt 546 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: performer to do this and take it upon themselves to 547 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: research the actor and watch their where they move and 548 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 2: the way they walk and the way they talk, all 549 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: of their menerisms. You know, that's part and parcel of 550 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 2: being a stunt double. It's not just being able to 551 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 2: do the stunts, but you need to do everything that. 552 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 2: In my eyes, you need to be able to try 553 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: and do everything that they do, which will make you 554 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 2: a better stunt performer. So time, at twenty three, I 555 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: was a lot smaller, more of a gymnast physique, a 556 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: lot slimmer. Daniel's so lean did it work perfect? But 557 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: now you know, I've been Chris is stunt double for 558 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 2: ten years and he's a man mountain. I've had to 559 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: build a lot of weight, you know, like a lot 560 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 2: of training, be in the gym most of the time, 561 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 2: so you know I'd be too big to double Daniel Craig. 562 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 2: Now I'd have to go away for six months or 563 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 2: maybe not six months, three months and lose a lot 564 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: of weight and just go running on the street a 565 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: lot more cardio. But it's fine. Getting the job as 566 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 2: a stunt performer, it's then it's fine. It's an amazing 567 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: achievement to get the job, but it's about keeping it. 568 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: It's more important once you've got it. You're now in 569 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 2: the light of people watching. So it's up to you 570 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 2: to continue to grow and try and be the be 571 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: the best time performer you can be, and monitor watch 572 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 2: those actors and how they do things. And you know, 573 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 2: that's what I've been doing every time I've stunt doubled 574 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: with an actor, and that's what I do with Chris 575 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: and I have done for ten years. So you know, 576 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: it's weird. I'll watch them and analyze the way they 577 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: do it everything. So it's I think it's so important. 578 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: I think anyway for a something forward. 579 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: To do that, it's so cool. It's like the same 580 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: thing is when an actor is playing someone really famous 581 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: that they go and watch all of their news interviews 582 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: and everything they've ever done to kind of mimic their 583 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: voice and mimic you know, you're doing the same thing 584 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: in preparation to be the seamlessly step in to be 585 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: someone that is so cool. 586 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 587 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: Do you have any hardest scenes you've ever done? And 588 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: then favorite scenes you've ever done across all the movie like, 589 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you've been in seriously some incredible blockbusters. Are 590 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: any of your absolute favorites and then you're absolute hardest. 591 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I stunt double for Batman Christian Baane in The 592 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: Dark Knight Rises with Chris Nolan, who is you know, 593 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 2: one of my favorite directors on the planet. A very 594 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: good friend of mine was to stunt a arranger called 595 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: Buster Reeves. He was doubling Bain. He actually double Christian 596 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 2: band on the first two I double Christian and Batman 597 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 2: on the last one, and he was doubling Bain because 598 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 2: he was the fight arranger. He had to choreograph this 599 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 2: big fight sequence between and Batman and it was in 600 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: the streets, in the streets of New York, up the stairs, 601 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: and it was one hundred and fourteen move fight that 602 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: we had to remember choreography. At that point in my career, 603 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: I was twenty five, I think twenty five going into 604 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: twenty six or just turn twenty six, so I still 605 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: fairly knew, you know, and fighting at the time was 606 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: not something I'd done a massive amount of on screen, 607 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: but learning from him, and I've learned from some of 608 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 2: the best fight guys on the planet. Luckily for me, 609 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: another good friend of mine, Ben Cook, is also an 610 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: amazing fight guy. So just to learn that choreography and 611 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 2: make sure it's on time, it's almost a you know, 612 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: it's like a dance. You're doing a dance with someone, 613 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: and you know, the more you do it, the more repetition, 614 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: the more you rehearse it, you get to know their 615 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: you know the way they move. And so that was 616 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: something I'm very proud of it. It was something that like 617 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 2: to again step out my comfort zone. You know, my 618 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 2: speciality is gymnastic, trampling, high diving, and then I'm doing 619 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 2: something it's not and that self doubt comes in and 620 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: you know, shit that maybe they used the guys and 621 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: known for being the best fight guys. It was so 622 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 2: good in that and he'd say to me, listen for 623 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: every faith in you that you can do this, just 624 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: work hard and you know, listen to what I'm saying. 625 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: We'll do this together. And by the end. It was amazing, 626 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 2: absolutely amazing. We can remember the fights. We did it 627 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: all in one take once, like the whole thing, you know, 628 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. It was like one hundred degrees in the 629 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 2: batsuit and it was so hot, and we did the 630 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: whole lot. It was incredible. So I'm very proud of that, 631 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 2: you know. And at the end of that movie, or 632 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 2: halfway through the movie, it was actually the end of 633 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: our shoot, because sometimes they shoot out of schedule. We 634 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 2: were in New York and the sun was setting and 635 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: we climb, we actually free climb up the Manhattan Bridge 636 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: and I was standing on the Manhattan Bridge in the 637 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,199 Speaker 2: batsuit while Smolan was circling at three sixty with my 638 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: boss with a camera on it in the helicopter while 639 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: I was standing in the batsuit. And it's the iconic 640 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 2: shot of him regaining his strength back and becoming Batman again, 641 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 2: and it was me up there. And so the last 642 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: time that that suit was warm. It goes into the 643 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: Batman Museum, and because Christian Band had finished all of 644 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: his scenes in the suit at that point, it's almost 645 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: like the last shot of the movie. For me. It 646 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: was an amazing moment that you couldn't have written it 647 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: was incredible for me to do that, you know, and 648 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 2: that was not maybe the hardest stunt in the world, 649 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 2: but has something to be very proud of and go, 650 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 2: this is incredible and there's not often you get to 651 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: do that, and then you know, watch a shot on 652 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: the film and you're like, that's me. It's like, I'm 653 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 2: very proud of that, and you know, and then we 654 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: fast forward to extraction and there's a stunt we did 655 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: I won the Tourist World Stunt Award for the Hardest 656 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: Hit where me and another guy, another stunt guy, we 657 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: come off the balcony onto the awning, we hit the truck, 658 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: we hit the road, we stand up. There's a bit 659 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: of a fight that I get hit by a car 660 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: and we do that as one section and it just 661 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: won this year or last year of the Tourist Stunt 662 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: the awards for hardest Hit and we won Best Fight 663 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 2: as well, so you know, massively proud. And they're on 664 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: completely different ends of the spectrum where it's you know, 665 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: the fight is something that's you know, it's more of 666 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 2: a dance, and then you go into something where it's 667 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: bash bash crash, and it's you know, it could be 668 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 2: way more dangerous. You can hurt yourself a lot more. 669 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: But I actually felt more comfortable in that zone than 670 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: I did in the fight. So I just needed to 671 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 2: bring my fight stuff up, believe in myself, keep rehearsing, 672 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: have it in my head, you know. And now I've 673 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: fast forward, I've done don't do lots and lots of 674 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: fight stuff. 675 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: That is so cool. Is there a real difference between 676 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: actors in how much they want to do themselves versus 677 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: how much they get you to do, Like, how do 678 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: they choose and how do you balance that out? 679 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: I think I can only speak from my experience with 680 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: you know, with the actors I've worked with, but you know, 681 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: for example, with Chris, with him for ten years, he 682 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 2: is more athletic than most. Don't rights if he wasn't 683 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 2: a successful actor, it would be an incredible stunt. He 684 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 2: can do everything. But I think what we try and do, 685 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: and especially nowadays, is that the actor will say, you know, 686 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 2: I want to do everything. But then it comes down to, 687 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 2: you know, trying to really be strategic on this film 688 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: to say they say, we've got four months to shoot 689 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: this movie. Five months. We have action unit, which is 690 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: where we do the stunt, second unit where they've got 691 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: a splinter unit where they do pick up shots, and 692 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: then you've also got main unit, the talking heads unit, 693 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 2: the acting unit. So you have someone the second idea 694 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: being the trailer like scheduling him how we can get 695 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: the actor over to this unit where we do this. 696 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: That's it's a real it's a big, big engine and 697 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: people a machine for for all these things, these to 698 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: tick all these boxes and get you know, all these 699 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: cogs to work. And it also comes down to an 700 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: insurance thing, like if Chris was to say, you know, 701 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: you know he's and he's very good at the stone 702 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: coordinators and mean and the relationship I've got with him, 703 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: This one's I don't think you need to do this one. 704 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: It's either going to be a big hit and I 705 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: can do it's fine, or it's just not worth you 706 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: you know, twisting an ank or rolling the knee whatever 707 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: it is. Then to be sidelined for two months, three months. 708 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: Then the production company has to stop and then the 709 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 2: production then are in. You know, they've they've got a 710 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: targets to meet dates to me, So that becomes a 711 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: money thing, you know, you know, lose a lot of money. 712 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: If your actors out for three months and they've got 713 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: a release date, that's now get pushed. Locations that you've 714 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: got in that time friend, they are you know, we 715 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: can't use that location in two months because another film's 716 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 2: got it. There's so many working elements that people don't 717 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: see in the background to make things work. So it's 718 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 2: really important to bring you know, the best team you 719 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: know together as possible, you know, and make everything work together. 720 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: And so that's you know, as a stunt double, I'll 721 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: go and work an action unit while Chris is doing 722 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: like a very intensive acting scene, and then we'll then 723 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: grab pieces we need for him close ups in the 724 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: action scene. You know, it might be a week or 725 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 2: two weeks later. And if you're teaching the fights, teach 726 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 2: other actors or the fights in the choreography. So it 727 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 2: really comes into it's about being strategic, Like it's just 728 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: not worth an actor getting injured for you know, and 729 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 2: then you know, being out for three months. 730 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so crazy. Do you ever watch back scenes 731 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: where they've cut in close ups of his face and 732 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: then you're doing stuff and you do you ever like 733 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: not actually know which one of you It is, like 734 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: if there's bits where he kind of does some of it. 735 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, I always know what's me 736 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: and I always know what's him, and the same with 737 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: him as well. I think weirdly we both know him. 738 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: I think most actors and some doubles do because you 739 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 2: know that sequence that you did, Yeah, and I just know, 740 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, I always have to watch playback at what 741 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: I've done and you know I don't like that piece. 742 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: I should have done that better. I can do this 743 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: a bit different. So you analyze things and break it 744 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: down such small increments that I know, I know what 745 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 2: stuff's mean and I know what stuff's in. But there 746 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: are you know, listen, there's there's been times where we 747 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: both have gone is that mear you? But it might 748 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 2: be a real flash, a very very small, small moment. 749 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: But you know, I think it's luckily. Luckily for me, 750 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 2: I've got away over it for ten years with him. 751 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: So, yeah, they are the loveliest guys ever. Were you 752 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: how they do their New Year's party every year? 753 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 754 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: We went to one. We went to two of them. 755 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: Because our have you met Mark Philip Pelli. 756 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: Mark Philip Early, I don't think I have, Because if 757 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: you if you go to two of them. You just 758 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 2: didn't go to this year as well, because I went 759 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 2: to this year's one, but not the two years before. 760 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, have we went in twenty Oh my gosh, I 761 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: can't even remember the one in San Diego in La 762 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: Joya and then the Byron won the year before that. 763 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, so with Tedne Michelle who was in 764 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: San Diego with it? Michelle? 765 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: Then yeah was it? Were you there the gold Mine? 766 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: No? I wasn't there for that, but I was just 767 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 2: there for the We just went to I Beefa this year, 768 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 2: just gone for. 769 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: New Year amazing. So our one, our business partner in 770 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: our cafe, Mark Philippelli. He's really good friends with Craig 771 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: and Leoni and by default the boys because they used 772 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: to live across the road from his first cafe, and 773 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: so we ended up at the La Joya party and 774 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: then in Byron and they're just like you think they're 775 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: going to be the nicest guys ever, but they are 776 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: all time, Yeah, like even better than you can ever imagine. 777 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 1: So friendly. 778 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: Craigan Loans. They're like my second parents, are they really? Yeah? 779 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: They're literally Craigan Loans are like you know, I'll see 780 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: loans in for the thor premiere and then I think 781 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 2: she's coming to Europe, so I'll hang out with there 782 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: hopefully at some point wherever she you know, she ends 783 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: up and depends all right work schedule. But they was 784 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: calling me their fourth son, so. 785 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: You could totally be at handsworth. They please send them 786 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: our love. They're just the loveliest family and I love that, 787 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, all their school friends come with them, like 788 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: Zochi and stuff like that. 789 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 2: Yes, they're not family, yeah for me? 790 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh so good. 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I think it's interesting again, 807 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: like sometimes when you hit a dream, especially when you 808 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: didn't even know that you were going to have how 809 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: do you know when there's a new chapter coming up? 810 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 1: Like you know, you don't want to ever not challenge 811 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: yourself when there's a chance to do something new, but 812 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 1: you also, you know, don't want to throw away something 813 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: that you're doing that's amazing. How did you decide to 814 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: do a children's book? 815 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 3: Like? 816 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: Where on earth did that come from? Out of all 817 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: of this? Like you're in Hollywood? Why did you just 818 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: write a book? 819 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: It came from? And this is me going back to, 820 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 2: you know, being a kid and being naughty and I 821 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,760 Speaker 2: was terrible at school. Just wasn't academic. It's not something 822 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: I was good at. And if you know, I think 823 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 2: as kids, if you're not if you're not good at it, 824 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: straight away, you don't want to do it because you're 825 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: you know, you want to do things that you're good at. 826 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: And I just wasn't very good at and you know, 827 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: very open to say that, you know, I wish I 828 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 2: did better, I wish I listened more. Just wasn't my thing. 829 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: But I just had in my mind that I don't 830 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 2: need to go. I want to go to the Olympics, 831 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 2: and look how that can go wrong. You know, Okay, 832 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 2: It's put me in great step for what I do now, 833 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: and I would never take it back. But there's many 834 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 2: times about we talk about self doubt and things that 835 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 2: I should know that I don't and if I had 836 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 2: been better at score, I would know, and I think 837 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: what actually happened, and it was a rule I don't know. 838 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,280 Speaker 2: For me is I had major back surgery after extraction 839 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 2: one in twenty nineteen. March twenty nineteen, I had huge 840 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: back surgery. So I have two titanium discs at my 841 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 2: lower level L four L five S one level. And 842 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 2: we kind of planned that with Chris's schedule because after extraction, 843 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: you'd been working so hard for so many years. He 844 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: wanted to take the best part of a year off. 845 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: This surgery was going to be between six to eight 846 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: nine months of recovery and throughout my career. Luckily for me, 847 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: you know, I'm not complaining about this, but you know, 848 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: I hadn't had any time off, and it got to 849 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 2: that point I was like, Okay, now it's time to 850 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 2: have this surgery because it's just getting worse and worse 851 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: and worse. And my discs they degenerated, and they got 852 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 2: so bad that they were literally just vertebrae on vertebrae. 853 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 2: They'd gone through every stage of the generation on the 854 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: discs that you know. I spoke to a surgeon and 855 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 2: he said, look, come to me. We'll cut you open, 856 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: we'll put too tight a and this in there, and 857 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: you'll be back to doing what you do at the 858 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 2: highest level within six to nine months. And I was 859 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 2: just like, look, this is a no brainer. Chris is 860 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 2: going to take some time off. It's going to get 861 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 2: me fit again. I can go back to my job hopefully. 862 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 2: But what you don't prepare yourself for. I knew it 863 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 2: was going to be physically difficult to rehab and recover. 864 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,439 Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be difficult. I didn't 865 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: realize how if it would be. But hand in hand 866 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 2: with that, if not worse, was how difficult it be mentally. 867 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 2: I really did not prepare myself for that. I didn't 868 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: know and I think self doubt kicks in when you're 869 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 2: so busy all the time. You have this surgery and 870 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 2: you're not mobile, you can't move, and that's my bread 871 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: and butter, that's me, that's that part of who I 872 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 2: am is my job, and I'm very proud of that. 873 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 2: But then it kind of sets in the self doubt. 874 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: There's so much time on your hands. Shit, what happens 875 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 2: if this has gone wrong? Because I would, you know, 876 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: and I'm a worrier anyway, so you know, I'd text 877 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: my surgeon. I'd be like, this has happened, Like you know, 878 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: it doesn't oh if it was walked down the stairs, 879 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 2: and he's like, don't worry, don't worry. It's part of 880 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: the process. Your body's getting used to this. But you 881 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: just you know, I was sleepless night. There was in 882 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: so much pain. Was there a lot of painkillers to 883 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: try and and they don't help. And I know I 884 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: was that Lewis end. They really didn't know what I'd 885 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 2: do in it. And I think that was when for 886 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 2: the first time for me, it felt like, shit, if 887 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 2: this does go wrong and I can't go back to 888 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: what I do, then what will I do? And not 889 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,959 Speaker 2: to say that I chose to write this book because 890 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: I thought I was going to be the next JK. Rowling. 891 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 2: Because that's not the case yet. Yeah, it was more. 892 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 2: I laid in bed and Antoinette, you know, a very 893 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 2: good friend of mine, she was the Center publicist at 894 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 2: the time. She just said to me, because she's you know, 895 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: she's so upbeat, and she's so like you know, and 896 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 2: that's what I love about it. She's so positive. She's like, 897 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 2: what do you write a book like? It was like 898 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: something that could could be done easily. And I was, 899 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 2: what do you mean walking on? I think I can 900 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 2: barely spell my name? What do you mean write a 901 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 2: book like this is? You know? And she's like, you 902 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: know what she said to me, I love She said, Listen, 903 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: no one cares at this stage if you make some 904 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: spending mistakes. Well the Puncholli is not right, you know, no 905 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: one really cares about that. It's about the story you 906 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 2: have in your head that you can just write down, 907 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 2: and your experiences you've drawn on to become a successful 908 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: stump with woman, the things that happen as a young 909 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: kid growing up in their self doubt and all those type 910 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: of things. And I kind of That's what I sat 911 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 2: back and thought, Okay, I'm not really although you've writ 912 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: in the book it's not. It's basically just drawing on experiences. 913 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: And then what would motivate me? What? What wouldn't want 914 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 2: to make me do something that I can help inspire 915 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 2: other people and other children. And my stepdaughter Taylor you know, 916 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: inspired me. My little nephew Eddie. 917 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:35,479 Speaker 1: Oh it's named after him. 918 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. The book is called the Adventures of Flip Boy 919 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,879 Speaker 2: and Eddie, and that's my nephew. I sent our illustrator 920 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 2: the pictures of him and she basically made, you know, 921 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: made him come to life. But it was kind of 922 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: I could draw from experiences from them and how kids 923 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 2: are today and then how I was as a kid. 924 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,480 Speaker 2: And I think a blessing disguise for us. When we 925 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: were kids, we didn't have internet, we didn't have phones, 926 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: we didn't have iPads, we didn't have any of that. 927 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 2: We have laptops, So what would we do with reboard? 928 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 2: You go out and you play your mates, you'd run around. 929 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: Is you know you were naturally fit as kids, because 930 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 2: it actually didn't matter that when you were kids, because 931 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 2: we didn't know much about nutrition back then either it 932 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 2: was more about you could the energy that you'd burn off. 933 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 2: It didn't matter what you ate. And I was then 934 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 2: training in gymnastics and doing so much so I could 935 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: get away of eat wherever I wanted, and again not 936 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: knowing much about what you should and shouldn't need. So 937 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 2: I just thought to myself, we have to obviously stick 938 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: with the times. You're never going to get away from technology. 939 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: And it is an amazing thing, but how can we 940 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 2: go back to some of the basics that we had 941 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 2: as kids and intertwine that with you know, technology, And 942 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 2: it's such a fun book about discipline, knowing if you 943 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 2: you know, if you work hard at something, you will 944 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 2: achieve something and that makes you feel good. At the 945 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: back of the book there's very basic tips on nutrition 946 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: and basic tips on like a little training program you 947 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: can do in your bedroom, star jumps, touch jumps, squad 948 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: push ups, like basic things that any kid can do 949 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 2: at home, but they just don't know. You know, you 950 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: can do it with your parents. You're going to find 951 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 2: and you don't have to be outside to do it. 952 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,360 Speaker 2: And there's just at the back of the books have 953 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 2: those little natural a sorry, those little you know, informative 954 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,879 Speaker 2: little bits of information. They're very basic that kids can 955 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 2: do is, you know, be on your iPad for an hour, 956 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 2: but then you're going to do this little program for 957 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,959 Speaker 2: ten to fifteen minutes, and you know, eat a little 958 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 2: bit better, and you know, be a bit more disciplined. 959 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 2: At home. Your Mauma should have Go and brush your 960 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 2: hair and brush your teeth and tidy your room. Go 961 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: and do it like you know, it's part and parcel 962 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 2: of you know. So you know, Eddie and the Book 963 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: joins a martial arts class and gymnastics class because Flip 964 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 2: Boy is his hero, and he watches him on the 965 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: TV and on his iPad. That's all he does. And 966 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 2: he sees Flipboy doing all these tricks and because he's 967 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: a young kid and one must be able to do 968 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: that because Flipbod does, he doesn't understand that you have 969 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: to work hard to get to that stage. So he 970 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: hurts himself and then he gets upset. He's like, why 971 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 2: am I hurting myself doing this? And he bumps into 972 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,919 Speaker 2: Flip Boy and he's give him a little pep talk 973 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 2: of you can't just look at something and think you 974 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 2: can do it. You've got to work hard at it. 975 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 2: And then in six months he's now training and because 976 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 2: of he's gone to the gym and he's starting to 977 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 2: learn to be more disciplined. He's training, he's getting results. 978 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: That goes so hand in hand with you know, Eddie, 979 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 2: you've got gymnastics in a minute, tidier room, yet mun trumpstairs, 980 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 2: tiny's his room like he's got some kind of routine. 981 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 2: And it's about kids having routines. And you know, just 982 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 2: we all know that by eating better and exercise and 983 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 2: just basic health and fitness is so good for you, 984 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 2: not just physically but mentally as well. We all know that. 985 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 2: It just it releads the doorphins in your mind and 986 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 2: your upbeat. You have more energy. We know that. And 987 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 2: I think this book is just a very basic for 988 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 2: kids that between six and six and twelve years old 989 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: that don't have heroes that they can look up to. 990 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 2: I want them to look up to Flipball and say 991 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: that's who I want to be and it's and it 992 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they then go on and do something else. 993 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: I can promise that by doing that from such a 994 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 2: young age, or doing that as a kid, it will 995 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 2: put you in good stead to do anything else that 996 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 2: you want to do and that is a fun book 997 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: and it's just to get kids to be as more 998 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 2: active and healthy as possible. That's that's my main aim 999 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 2: for this book. So that's why they decided in the end, 1000 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,879 Speaker 2: you know, with the black back in from Antoinette, to 1001 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 2: give it a go. And it was me again, as 1002 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 2: an adult, do I do this? Do I step up? 1003 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: So I'm a comfort zone. You know, I'm successful at 1004 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 2: what I do now. You know, I've worked so hard 1005 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,480 Speaker 2: to get to there and gone through so many obstacles 1006 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 2: and adversity to get to there. Do I know want 1007 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 2: to strip it back and try something else and then 1008 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 2: get you know, turned down for that? It's you know, 1009 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: but I'm so thankful I did. It's the best thing, 1010 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, I ever did. And you know, I've got 1011 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 2: so many things that in the pipeline. We've got a 1012 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 2: great synopsis for you know. You know, if this book 1013 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 2: does well, we're going to bring a superhero girl into 1014 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 2: it and we can make it, you know, maybe book 1015 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 2: two and three, maybe make it a TV show. You know, 1016 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 2: I want to make it. You know, I want to 1017 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 2: try and make bring Flip Boy to life and Eddie 1018 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 2: as much as possible. So it was something I wanted to, 1019 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 2: you know, give back a little bit in a way. 1020 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: I love that so much. It's really interesting that this 1021 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: came up sort of in the week of men's health work, 1022 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: because I think one of the things that is the 1023 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: theme about conversations for men and any of the things 1024 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: that they go through in their health and wellness and 1025 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: mental health and wellness is to start the conversation when 1026 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 1: they're younger, to talk to them when they boys, like 1027 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: how do we teach our boys how to do that? 1028 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: And young girls as well, but particularly you know in 1029 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,120 Speaker 1: mental health week that it's it's interesting that talking to 1030 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: kids about basic things when they're younger and giving them 1031 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,399 Speaker 1: the resources to get excited about being well and fit 1032 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: and active and drawing on the superhero thing because for 1033 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: older boys, older men, but also sort of teenage boys 1034 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: and stuff, like you as a superhero doing stunts is 1035 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 1: is straightforward. But for a younger boy like Flip Boy 1036 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,000 Speaker 1: being the superhero, it's so beautiful that you've translated it 1037 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: into a really fun and exciting and so wholesome. I mean, 1038 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: how sweet that little Eddy's like watching Flip Boy on 1039 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: his on his iPad and it's modern but it does 1040 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: kind of draw on your own childhood. I think it's 1041 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: so exciting, like one an amazing thank you so much. 1042 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, hopefully it does great. And I can 1043 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 2: you know, just sem my step daughter Taylor, she'll be 1044 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 2: she'll be the superhero girl and the next one. 1045 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: Hopefully, oh my gosh, and you know what it's So 1046 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: the last section of the podcast is playta, which is 1047 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: the whole idea that you know, outside of your working 1048 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: identity and your productive identity, which is what we just 1049 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: talked about, stripping back who you are when you're at 1050 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: work and you're kicking goals, and you know, we get 1051 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: so wrapped up in success being you know what we do, 1052 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: being who we are, and not having any identity outside 1053 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,280 Speaker 1: of that. So it's interesting to me that this idea, 1054 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: like the biggest new idea you've had in the last what, 1055 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, how long you've been doing stunts fifteen years, 1056 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: was when you took a break from it. You know, 1057 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: you couldn't you didn't have space to have a fresh 1058 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: idea until you step away. And I think maybe you 1059 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: don't need to take a year off or like ten 1060 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: months to have a surgery to do that. But I 1061 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,959 Speaker 1: think people think that if they take a step back, 1062 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,480 Speaker 1: they'll they won't be able to catch up, or they'll 1063 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: fall behind, or you know that you just need to 1064 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,879 Speaker 1: be go, go go all the time. But my best 1065 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: ideas are always when I take a weekend off or 1066 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: a week off or a day off, like it's getting 1067 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: distance that you get fresh ideas and perspective. And that's 1068 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: when this idea came to you, when you couldn't do 1069 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 1: anything else. I find that really interesting. 1070 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's so true, Sah, because I probably if 1071 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 2: I hadn't earn it bad back and I didn't need 1072 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 2: the surgery, then this wouldn't the book wouldn't be here. 1073 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 2: It is exactly that, because you do fear of oh shit, 1074 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: if I step out of this, someone else can take 1075 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 2: my spot. So you know, if I step out of this, 1076 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to come back and 1077 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: catch up. It's exactly right what you said, and it's 1078 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,719 Speaker 2: just proof that proof in the pudd in that if 1079 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: you do do it, and you do take that time off, 1080 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,279 Speaker 2: and you do try and explore and expand, great things 1081 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 2: can come from that. And I think this time round again, 1082 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 2: you know, I finished extraction two with Chris and the 1083 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 2: team in Prague at the end of March. You know, 1084 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,160 Speaker 2: it's time to take a little bit of time out 1085 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 2: because we you know, hopefully this year we have a 1086 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 2: few of us film coming out as our acting dabut 1087 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 2: as well as doing our own stunts. Yeah, an action 1088 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 2: comedy called School Fight, which is so much fun, so funny. 1089 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 2: We actually shot it and again it was it was 1090 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 2: just after I wrote Flip Boy. You know, it wasn't 1091 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 2: working with Chris. I couldn't be too physical. So my 1092 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 2: friend who was a very good friend of mine, Damian Waters. 1093 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 2: He's like a YouTube pioneer. He was five time world 1094 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 2: champion tumbler. He's doubled for Captain America in right Stunts. 1095 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 2: He wrote and directed this film and asked me to 1096 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 2: play the lead villain and then we've got my two 1097 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 2: other buddies for the two leads in it. And it 1098 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 2: would ended up being the best experience of my whole 1099 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: entire life. And I wouldn't have done that again if 1100 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 2: I hadn't have had that back surgery and taking a 1101 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 2: bit of time out, because would have been doing a 1102 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 2: big blockbuster movie. And we just made it ourselves. We 1103 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 2: actually made it. You know, they put up the money 1104 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 2: for it to make it, but it's a very low 1105 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 2: budget and I think when you see it you'll just 1106 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: be like, holy shit. 1107 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: Wow. 1108 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: You know, Matthew Vaughan is on board. He picked it up, 1109 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 2: he loved what he saw, and you know it's been 1110 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 2: finished in post to the highest level. So you know, 1111 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 2: I'm excited for that. And I think I took some 1112 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 2: time off after extraction in March because hopefully, you know, 1113 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 2: we have the meetings, we're trying to pull things together 1114 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: to make another one, and that's what we want to 1115 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,480 Speaker 2: do now. So you know, two amazing things have come 1116 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 2: out of taking a step back, and it was only 1117 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 2: because of the injury and that time on my own 1118 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,359 Speaker 2: to really reflect and try other things that these two 1119 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 2: new huge adventures could you know, be life changing. So yeah, 1120 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 2: I think if anyone can learn anything from this podcast 1121 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 2: today is yeah, just go for it, give it a go, 1122 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,759 Speaker 2: and it doesn't work out, you've learnt something from it, 1123 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 2: and go back again if you and try harder next time, 1124 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 2: or use those mistakes as positives to learn and just 1125 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: and give it go. I mean, I'm so glad I 1126 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 2: gave both of those things a go and you know, 1127 00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 2: there's some big things happening. 1128 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: In the Hope, so exciting. And I think also like 1129 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: the idea that you know, often you find yourself in 1130 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: a really tough time, like with your back, you know, 1131 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: not being able to do anything, and all the things 1132 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: that make you you and that make you feel good 1133 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,959 Speaker 1: having those stripped away. It was like a forced way 1134 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: to create space. But once you've had that experience, you realize, 1135 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: I can actually choose to put that space in my life. 1136 00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 1: I can actually choose to kind of build into my 1137 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: schedule time to play, time to give my brain a 1138 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,720 Speaker 1: break so that I can have these new ideas more, 1139 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 1: because otherwise you just get on that productivity hamster wheel 1140 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 1: and you do the same thing over and over and 1141 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: it might be something really good, but you don't know 1142 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: what you're missing out on. Until you know you actually do, 1143 00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: you just give it a go. So you mentioned you've 1144 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 1: taken a little bit of time off after years of 1145 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: not having any time off, which again is amazing that 1146 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: you've been in such demand, but now that you are 1147 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: kind of building in a bit of downtime, a bit 1148 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: of time for play. You mentioned you have a step daughter, 1149 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 1: and I imagine being around children kind of brings that 1150 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: you know as adults ahead is like what am I 1151 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,839 Speaker 1: doing next year? And five years time? As my five 1152 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: year plan? But kids are so like in the now? 1153 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,200 Speaker 1: How do you play? What do you do when you're 1154 00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 1: just like, you don't care about the productive outcome, You're 1155 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: not worried about success. You're just for the pure joy 1156 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: of life. What do you do? Do you watch? Do 1157 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 1: you watch Netflix? Like? Do you want to watch TV? 1158 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 1: Are you done with TV? 1159 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 2: You know what's so funny because people are always like, wow, 1160 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 2: you know it, stunt guy, adrenaline junkie, and you love 1161 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 2: to you must be when you're not working, you can 1162 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 2: out skydiving, work type of stuff. I think because I've 1163 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 2: been so busy for fifteen years and it's long, long days, 1164 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 2: long hours, you know, just going out for a nice 1165 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,520 Speaker 2: relaxing dinner and a glass of wine and a great 1166 00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,840 Speaker 2: bit of food, and you know, hanging out with friends 1167 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 2: and chilling out and resting and watching I watch football 1168 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 2: and I love the UFC and all these things that 1169 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 2: I don't really get to do as much of when 1170 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,279 Speaker 2: I'm working six days a week. Sometimes sometimes I have 1171 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 2: to you're up at four or five thirty in the 1172 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 2: up between four and five in the morning, drive to 1173 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 2: the studio, hair and makeup, you don't finished, or eight 1174 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,720 Speaker 2: or nine, you've got a train, just go to you basically, 1175 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 2: come at, eat and go at it. Very committed to 1176 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,440 Speaker 2: the job, so on downtime I actually try and especially 1177 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 2: at the beginning of part of the downtime, depending on 1178 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 2: how long I've got is I want to just relax 1179 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 2: and chill out, the do the simple things and you know, 1180 00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,799 Speaker 2: see friends have nice dinners, catch up with people that 1181 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,479 Speaker 2: haven't been able to, you know, see for a while. 1182 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 2: And then you know, depending on how long I've got off, 1183 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: you know, I have a nice little hole of their 1184 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,680 Speaker 2: way relax in and you know, maybe again and come back. 1185 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 2: And I'm going to go and do this. This is 1186 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 2: a good adventure. I want to go and try and 1187 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:46,959 Speaker 2: do this. And I think, you know, I'm very lucky 1188 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 2: to be able to do that as well financially, because 1189 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 2: I've worked so hard and so much. You know, you 1190 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 2: can get to do some great things. So I actually 1191 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 2: probably chill out, which people don't think or may not 1192 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 2: think that these hide you know, octane stunt people that 1193 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 2: love jumping around like Craze did it on my time off. 1194 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,800 Speaker 2: It's that I want to do the opposite. 1195 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like the last thing you want to do. Yeah. 1196 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,760 Speaker 1: I think that's also the case for a lot of people. 1197 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: Is like the what they do as a job, they 1198 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 1: love it, but as soon as they've got time off, 1199 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: like you want to do the opposite of that thing, 1200 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: because you just you get so much of it that 1201 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: you need to unwind and like and let your body break. 1202 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 1: Like your body must get so tired. 1203 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, recover from a few injuries and knocks, 1204 00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 2: and you know, I'll still go and train. I'll go 1205 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,880 Speaker 2: and keep maintenance on the body. And you know, if 1206 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 2: I can get down to the gym and doing it 1207 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 2: with gymnastics to brush up some skills or go kick 1208 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 2: boxing or boxing or whatever it is, get the gym 1209 00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 2: and still try and eat as healthily as possibly can 1210 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 2: on my downtime. You know, I might have told you 1211 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 2: a little bit more chocolate and crisps and whatever, but 1212 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 2: generally it's it's great to have that downtime to like 1213 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 2: you said, rest your mind, your body and then recoup 1214 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 2: and then come back strong with it. I think it's important. 1215 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 2: Downtime is so Important's underrated. 1216 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,880 Speaker 1: Do you find this is another random question I just 1217 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: thought of now in light of this Men's Men's Health Week. 1218 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,840 Speaker 1: My husband was an athlete. He was at Luffbra actually, 1219 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,400 Speaker 1: which is how he knew the lads from this wedding, 1220 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: and was a hurdler and then retired when he was 1221 00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,920 Speaker 1: got constantly injured. And one of the things that's been 1222 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: really like that was really hard in the transition that 1223 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: often you don't kind of get sports psychologied out of 1224 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: is you know, you're getting your skin rolls measured every 1225 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: two minutes, and the pressure on your physical appearance is 1226 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: so high, let alone when then you're in Hollywood all 1227 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: the time. It's interesting that there's so much discussion among 1228 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: women with body dysmorphia and confidence and all that kind 1229 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 1: of thing, but it's not really spoken about that much 1230 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: for men, even though there is as much pressure for 1231 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: men to have an eight pack all the time. And 1232 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: then add that you're playing Batman and you know, like 1233 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: James Bond and and you know whatever Chris is, do 1234 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,799 Speaker 1: you thaw like you know you've got to Does that 1235 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: ever get to you? You find that difficult when you 1236 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: do want to rest, but you're like, but I need 1237 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: to get to the gym or I can't like eat 1238 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: these because do you find. 1239 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 2: That it's very hard? I would be I'm not going 1240 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,760 Speaker 2: to lie, very very hard. It's my last fifteen years 1241 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,919 Speaker 2: is to train to look like someone else. 1242 00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so is. 1243 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,600 Speaker 2: It part of me now? And sometimes my friends and 1244 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,840 Speaker 2: I help, don't worry. It's not going to matter, you have. 1245 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't, I can't, you know, I need 1246 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,360 Speaker 2: to stay on level ground so it can give myself, 1247 00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 2: you know, a six week period to ever lose weight 1248 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 2: or put it on like it really is and listen. 1249 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 2: I think, once this is all over, I'm going to 1250 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,880 Speaker 2: be really really fat, and I'll enjoy it. I'll enjoy it. 1251 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 2: I'll just be like I deserve this because the whole 1252 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 2: career has been you know, exactly that calorie counting, watching 1253 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,320 Speaker 2: you wait, trying to look like someone else. Let's be honest, 1254 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 2: Dublin Chris Hemsworth for the last ten years, like they've 1255 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,359 Speaker 2: got the best Physeke in Hollywood. It's just not really 1256 00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 2: nice for me to be like, shit, why did it 1257 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 2: have to be him? You know, It's like it's so tough, 1258 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 2: you know, and it's it takes a lot of real 1259 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 2: power and discipline, and like I said, I'm I'm there 1260 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 2: near as strict as i'd like to be, because sometimes 1261 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know what a bit of chocolate 1262 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 2: and it's like crav it and you have it. You know, 1263 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 2: it's tough. I think I've been lucky that I've like 1264 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 2: I go back to the gymnastic days that I had 1265 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 2: that great skeleton of work that I could build around, 1266 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 2: and I know that if I really do turn it 1267 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 2: up and become real strict, I can get results very quickly. 1268 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 2: But they also go very quickly as well if you 1269 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: don't if you don't watch what you eat. So it's 1270 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,160 Speaker 2: one hundred percent like Pott dysmorphia has been a big 1271 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 2: thing in my career for sure. 1272 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so interesting because for you know, for the 1273 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: average lay person, it's kind of like, you know what, 1274 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,200 Speaker 1: no one's kind of notice like no one sees me naked, 1275 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, like no one is going to tell if 1276 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: I put on like half a kilo. For you, it's 1277 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: like no, I mean, like millions of people are going 1278 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: to see my bart every day. I can imagine the 1279 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,480 Speaker 1: stakes are so much higher, it would be it will 1280 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: be really hard but obviously not without benefits either, And 1281 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,880 Speaker 1: I can't wait to see you blow out afterwards. 1282 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 2: You'll just be like, ah, enjoy it, enjoy it well. 1283 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,279 Speaker 1: Second last question, just to finish out, what are three 1284 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 1: interesting things about you that don't normally come up in 1285 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,279 Speaker 1: conversation or interviews, like weird allergies or sleeping habits or 1286 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: tattoos like who people who live with you would know them, 1287 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: but no one else would know. 1288 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 2: I think I didn't know this. But when I sleep, 1289 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 2: I kick around a lot, which I I don't know 1290 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 2: if that's. 1291 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 1: Like doing a fight scene in your sleep. 1292 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that's because of the job. 1293 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 2: It's so much like and I go home and I 1294 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 2: go to sleep, and I'm still like kicking around. I 1295 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 2: don't I don't know why I do it. Obviously don't 1296 00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 2: know I do it, So that would definitely be one 1297 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 2: of them. And I think, you know, some people say 1298 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 2: to me fidget, and I get, you know, fidget in 1299 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 2: my in my sleep. But even when I'm you know, 1300 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 2: watching a film, or I'll slap my leg or lift 1301 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 2: my leg like I'm always moving. I can't just sit 1302 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 2: down and relax. So that's that's quite funny. I just 1303 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 2: I guess that's just because it's my whole life has 1304 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 2: been that, you know, and I guess people you know again, 1305 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 2: just I want to probably relax more than most and 1306 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,600 Speaker 2: I will. I'll binge and watch, you know, if something's 1307 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,439 Speaker 2: really good on Netflix or whatever the show may be. 1308 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 2: I'm happy to sit and watch like six episodes in 1309 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,040 Speaker 2: one go and you know, eat a bag of the 1310 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,759 Speaker 2: egos like it's I'd actually say it's probably one. I mean, 1311 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 2: I listen. I love going out for lovely dinners, like 1312 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 2: Noboo is my favorite restaurant on the planet. Same, it's 1313 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 2: my favorite on the planet. I love. That's why I 1314 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 2: love to do, is go for nice dinners. I have 1315 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 2: a nice glass or one whatever. But I'm quite as happy, 1316 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,919 Speaker 2: just as happy sometimes to you know, get a tie 1317 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,319 Speaker 2: takeaway or whatever at home and have a beer and 1318 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 2: what like in the comfort of your home, like go 1319 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 2: into the cinema. Again, I love doing that, but you 1320 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 2: know you do at home. You can just pause it, 1321 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 2: you can you can go and do something, you can 1322 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 2: go to the bathroom, you can come back here the 1323 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 2: comfort own of your own home. I think comfort, I 1324 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 2: think for me is really important. Comfort for sure, that's 1325 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 2: I think that's probably the third thing is comfort. 1326 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you and my husband are so similar. 1327 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm watching a movie, but you know, he 1328 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: doesn't like cinemas because he can't do eight hundred other 1329 00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,759 Speaker 1: things at the same time as watching the movie. When 1330 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: is it cinema? He's got to only watch the movie, 1331 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: whereas at home is like building a lego, drilling some 1332 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 1: like making some shed from scratch, and like also like 1333 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,600 Speaker 1: research and I don't know, he's doing like eight hundred 1334 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 1: things at once all the time. It's like, what I'm chilling. 1335 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:18,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, you are not chilling, you're doing any other things. Also, 1336 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,000 Speaker 1: have you stated that there's a Nobu hotel in London? 1337 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got You've got so You've got Portman Square, 1338 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 2: which is the dob Hotel. There's one in Shortage but 1339 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 2: shut at the moment. I don't watch shut And I 1340 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 2: think then there's one in Park Lane. So I think 1341 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 2: in London we've got three no boos and ones closed down. 1342 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,720 Speaker 2: They are opening a new one soon. 1343 00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: I did not know they had a hotel. It's like, 1344 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,520 Speaker 1: does that mean that room service is Noboo? Because wow, 1345 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: is it actually? Shut up? 1346 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 2: It is. 1347 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, We've got two nights at the end, 1348 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, we haven't bold acommodation yet. I'm like, oh, 1349 00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: should we say the black cord is like my favorite 1350 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: dish in the world. 1351 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, the black cod Yeah, but they now do black 1352 00:57:55,640 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 2: cod croquettes. Stop, trust me, go to the port Square 1353 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 2: is the neighbor hotel? Important Square is incredible? 1354 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh my god, totally doing that. Oh, I'm so excited. 1355 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: Two last questions. The first one is your favorite quote, 1356 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: and the second one is when and where can we 1357 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:11,919 Speaker 1: get the book? 1358 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 2: Okay, favorite quote would have to be I think it's 1359 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 2: tattoo on my arm? Do stuff have fun? Be nice? 1360 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 1361 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 2: I love it? And basically the whole Hemsworth crew has it. Leone, 1362 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 2: He's got it. She's got that Tattooedi's got it, As 1363 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 2: has got it. I've got it, like we've the whole 1364 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,080 Speaker 2: group has got that tattooed somewhere on their body. Do 1365 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 2: stuff have fun? Be nice? 1366 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:36,440 Speaker 3: Oh? 1367 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: I love that. That is so you guys just simple 1368 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: but just have a good life. 1369 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 2: So effective. 1370 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,880 Speaker 1: Also, can you get a tattoo without Chris getting it 1371 00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: in the same spot? Like, do you guys have to 1372 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,000 Speaker 1: coordinate that or do you just get them all covered? 1373 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got a wholese leave that I just decided 1374 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 2: halfway through Doublin. I think after like the year three 1375 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 2: or four, I want yet sleeve and he's like, the 1376 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 2: fuck are you talking about? I just always wanted one, Like, 1377 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 2: but the makeup so good at covering them up. They've 1378 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 2: got the special tattoo cover now and they can get like, 1379 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 2: you know, they can get that covered in twenty five 1380 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: thirty minutes. It's covered and they put this spray solution 1381 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 2: and it stays, you know, covered all day and then 1382 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,800 Speaker 2: you have, you know, go and wash off. I mean, listen, 1383 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,120 Speaker 2: it's funny because whenever I get a new one, because 1384 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,800 Speaker 2: I went from like having a little band, then I 1385 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 2: did the three quarter, then I went down to the wrist, 1386 00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 2: and then I did the hand and you just never stop. 1387 00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 2: But people are just like it was so funny when 1388 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 2: I said to the boys, I'm going to get the 1389 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,160 Speaker 2: hand and they're like, do you know what about tatoo? 1390 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,200 Speaker 2: And I'm like, hold on it. Do You're not realize 1391 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 2: for the last five years I've got my whole arm done. 1392 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,280 Speaker 2: Doesn't really matter if you get that one little bit 1393 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 2: done on my hand, Is it really gonna matter that 1394 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 2: it's going to take an extra two minutes to cover 1395 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 2: that if they cover that? So's that was my kind 1396 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 2: of thing behind it. But some days I'm not lying it. 1397 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 2: Some days you kind of go off, Now it's going 1398 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 2: to take thirty minutes or whatever. So me and Chris 1399 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 2: haven't got the saying, well, he's got a couple now, 1400 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,439 Speaker 2: but they're not the same ones. But yeah, I think 1401 01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 2: I'm actually in the process of getting some taken off. 1402 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 2: So I think I'm kind of helping out again now 1403 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,439 Speaker 2: because I'm taking some away and the ones that I 1404 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, and it makes myself a bit that way. 1405 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,360 Speaker 1: If he gets one, do you then have to get that, 1406 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: so you get all yours hidden, and then you have 1407 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,840 Speaker 1: to get he's added on. 1408 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Only if it's for the for the film and the scene. 1409 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 2: So his his ones that he's got that are actually 1410 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 2: his real tattoos, they're never really in the film. Okay, 1411 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 2: they get covered up himself. If we have tattoos, they 1412 01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 2: cover him and then for the film we've got to 1413 01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 2: put the other tattoos on top. 1414 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh my gosh, imagine before they had that makeup. 1415 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 1: You just wouldn't be out of body double unless you 1416 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,080 Speaker 1: had nothing on your skin. You couldn't get a tattoo 1417 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:40,439 Speaker 1: at all. 1418 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 2: No, No, yeah, exactly, I shouldn't do it. I shouldn't. 1419 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 2: I'm just very fortunate. I've got someone like Chris in 1420 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 2: my corner. That's you know, I'm in his contract, being 1421 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 2: in his contract for ten years, and he's like, look, 1422 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 2: that's my stand double, so this is what I want. 1423 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 2: Kind of lets me. You know, that means okay, well 1424 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 2: we have to cover it. Because if it is a 1425 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 2: choice and I wasn't with him, I'm sure production we'd 1426 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 2: be like, let's get someone else that we don't have 1427 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 2: to cover tattoos, like I think that would. So I 1428 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 2: think I'll be quite lucky. 1429 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,000 Speaker 1: I love that you're a writer in this contract, like 1430 01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 1: you want me? You get Bobby Sos. 1431 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the best. He's the great, great human on 1432 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,479 Speaker 2: the planet. We've you know, it's one of my best powers. 1433 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,800 Speaker 2: We've been working together for so long. I think we've 1434 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 2: done fifteen films together. We get on so well, and 1435 01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 2: he's just so law and you know he's like, that's 1436 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 2: that's my stung guy. And you know we're going to 1437 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,400 Speaker 2: take care of him. He's amazing, he's the best. 1438 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Oh, he's a good egg. It's a great egg. And finally, 1439 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,960 Speaker 1: where can we get the Adventures of Flipper and Eddie? 1440 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 2: So The Adventures of Eddie and Flip Boy. You can 1441 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 2: get it on sale on the twentieth of June. It's 1442 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 2: fifteen ninety nine online book Toopia, Amazon Books, QBD shops, 1443 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 2: dye Marks, Readings, most of the good book stores Amaze 1444 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 2: from the twentieth of June. So hopefully if this one 1445 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 2: does well, we get to make a few more. 1446 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 1: Oh how exciting. Well, this won't be coming out until 1447 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,720 Speaker 1: after that date, so I'll make sure to pop a 1448 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 1: link in the show notes for anyone who's listening who 1449 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,160 Speaker 1: wants to get a copy and see some of the 1450 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, teasers and illustrations and how exciting. Congratulations, Thank 1451 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,760 Speaker 1: you very much, Thank you for having me. Gosh, I 1452 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,640 Speaker 1: pinch myself all the time at the people this show 1453 01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 1: has connected me with. What a cool story Bobby has 1454 01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:16,439 Speaker 1: and the children's book is a pure delight, So much 1455 01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: platio going on there. Of course, I'm guessing you'll also 1456 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: want some visuals of human actions, so along with where 1457 01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,560 Speaker 1: you can get the book. There are show reels and 1458 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,760 Speaker 1: more links in the show notes. As always, please thank 1459 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,080 Speaker 1: Bobby for his time and energy sharing the episode. Screenshot 1460 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: it right now, right now while you're listening, and tag 1461 01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: at Bobby Dazzler eighty four and us so we can 1462 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: keep growing the neighborhood as far and wide as possible. 1463 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: I hope you are all having an amazing week and 1464 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 1: are seizing your yea