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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast. Good morning, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Quikie. I'm Claire Murphy. Thinking of traveling to the

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Speaker 1: UK or Island in the near future. Maybe you've already

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Speaker 1: bought a ticket. First, you better make sure you've checked

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Speaker 1: whether you're a duel citizen or not, because from tomorrow

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Speaker 1: it changes whether you can even leave the country. We'll

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Speaker 1: fill you in on the new passport rules at kick

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Speaker 1: in on February twenty five, but first, here's the latest

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Speaker 1: from the Quickie newsroom with Tarlie Blackman.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Claire. British police have arrested Peter Mandelsson, a senior

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Speaker 2: labor figure and former UK ambassador to the United States,

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Speaker 2: over alleged misconduct linked to his past ties with Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 2: London's Metropolitan Police said officers detained a seventy two year

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Speaker 2: old man at a North London address on suspicion of

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Speaker 2: misconduct in public office. Police did not formally name him,

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Speaker 2: but British media have identified the suspect as Mandelssohn. Investigators

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Speaker 2: are examining claims he passed sensitive government information to Epstein

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Speaker 2: about fifteen years ago. He does not face any sexual

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Speaker 2: misconduct allegations. The arrest comes days after the former Prince Andrew,

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Speaker 2: also known as Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, was arrested over similar allegations.

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Speaker 2: Australia's Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi has written to UK Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister Kirs Stamer backing moves to reduce Andrew from the

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Speaker 2: line of succession. Andrew is eighth in line to the

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Speaker 2: throne held by King Charles. Mandelsson was dismissed from his

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Speaker 2: ambassadorial post in September after emails showed he stayed in

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Speaker 2: contact with Epstein. Following Epstein's two thousand and eight conviction.

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Speaker 2: Police opened their investigation after further US documents were released.

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Speaker 2: Last month, a bus traveling from Pokora to Katmandu in

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Speaker 2: Nepal crashed off the Prithvi Highway after midnight on Monday,

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Speaker 2: killing nineteen people, including a twenty four year old British national,

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Speaker 2: and injuring twenty five others. The bus rolled down a

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Speaker 2: fast flowing Trischelai River, about eighty kilometers west of Katmandu.

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Speaker 2: Only nine bodies have been identified so far among the

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Speaker 2: injured are a Chinese national being treated at Katmandu's National

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Speaker 2: Trauma Center and a twenty seven year old New Zealander

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Speaker 2: with minor injuries. Another Chinese passenger is reported missing. According

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Speaker 2: to authorities, rescuers arrived quickly, pulling survivors from the wreckage

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Speaker 2: and taking them to hospitals. Police are investigating the cause.

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Speaker 2: Bus accidents are common in Nepal due to narrow mountain

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Speaker 2: roads and poorly maintained vehicles. The Trump Organization has announced

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Speaker 2: plans to build its first Australian project, a Trump International

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Speaker 2: Hotel and Tower on the Gold Coast. The company said

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Speaker 2: the tower would rise in surface paradise and become a

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Speaker 2: landmark beachfront development. Its local partner, Altus Property Group claims

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Speaker 2: Gold Coast Acting Mayor Mark Hamill said a formal development

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Speaker 2: application must be submitted before council approval. Developer David Young's

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Speaker 2: would include a luxury hotel, apartments, retail space and hospitality venues,

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Speaker 2: with construction targeted to begin this year. The BBC has

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Speaker 2: The incident occurred Sunday at London's Royal Festival Hall as

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Speaker 2: Visual Effects Award. The BBC said the language came from

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Speaker 2: warning of strong and offensive language and explaining that Turette

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Speaker 2: syndrome is a disability involving uncontrollable tics. The broadcast later

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Speaker 2: apologized for any offense caused. The slur, which had been

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Speaker 2: audible on BBC iPlayer, has now been removed. Lily Collins

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Speaker 2: about the making of the nineteen sixty one classic Breakfast

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Speaker 2: at Tiffany's. She'll also produce, bringing a personal passion to

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Speaker 2: the project. The movie is based on Sam Watson's book

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Speaker 2: Truman Capoti wanted Marilyn Monroe for hollygo Lightly and a

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Speaker 2: appear as characters. Imagine Entertainment and producers including Brian Grazer

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Speaker 1: Thanks Tari Next, new passport rules are starting tomorrow for

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Speaker 1: Traveling to the UK means different things to different Aussies.

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Speaker 1: For expats, it's heading home to see loved ones. For

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Speaker 3: I was born and grew up in England and I'm

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Speaker 1: But for a large number of Australians from tomorrow, your

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Speaker 1: The British government has brought in new rules that means

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Speaker 1: This doesn't only apply to Australian departure points either, it

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Speaker 1: for the return journey home. Ruth says she's not surprised

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Speaker 3: When I've been asked to border control at the airport

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Speaker 3: then it's been quite spiky about well why aren't you

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Speaker 1: These new rules are known as the UK Home Officers,

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Speaker 1: the British government, explaining that it brings Australia into line

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Speaker 3: I do you think it's a bit of a money grab.

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Speaker 3: It's really expensive, particularly when you We're a family of five,

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Speaker 1: The thing is too you may also be a UK

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Speaker 3: I'm a citizen of three different countries, so Australia, Britain

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Speaker 1: And you're an Irish citizen by your family, yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So when I was born, I automatically became an Irish citizen,

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Speaker 1: So how do you find out what you need to

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Speaker 1: the online checks. You may need to supply some documents

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Speaker 1: You can also renounce your UK citizenship. You have to

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Speaker 1: We'll put the links to the Smart Traveler and UK

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Speaker 1: you to travel. Thanks for taking the time to feed

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Speaker 1: your mind with us today. The Quikie is produced by

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Speaker 1: me Claire Murphy, Taylor Strano and Tarlie Blackman. Our Group

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Speaker 1: executive producer is a Larier Brophy, with audio production by

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Speaker 1: Lou Hill. Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land

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Speaker 1: and waters that this podcast is recorded on