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Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to this spill your daily pop

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Speaker 1: I'm m Burnham and I'm Laura Brodnick.

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Speaker 2: Holy hell, do we have a broodly honest review for you.

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Speaker 2: We are talking about the latest installment of Bridget Jones

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Speaker 2: Mad About the Boy. I feel like we watched this

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Speaker 2: a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Three weeks, but it's been out in cinemas for two weeks,

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Speaker 1: so we wanted to give all of you two weeks

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Speaker 1: to go and see it, and judging by some of

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Speaker 1: the numbers that's done in the messages we've had from people,

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Speaker 1: you all have seen it. Which is good because in

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Speaker 1: our bridly honest reviews we go through every part of

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Speaker 1: the biggest new movie or TV show that everyone's talking about,

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Speaker 1: and we talk a lot about the ending, So spoilers

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Speaker 1: galore ahead, So many spoilers.

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Speaker 2: So if you haven't watched it yet, and make sure

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Speaker 2: you do watch it and then me dearly listen to

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Speaker 2: this episode. If you have watched it, well done.

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Speaker 1: So Bridget Jones Mad about the Boy is based on

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Speaker 1: the fourth novel that Helen Fielding has written about Bridget

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Speaker 1: Jones and the fourth movie. So, the first Bridget Jones

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Speaker 1: movie came back in two thousand and one, and I've

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Speaker 1: just got.

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Speaker 2: To say, someone feels so long ago.

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Speaker 1: I remember going with my friends for one of my

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Speaker 1: like when you get to go to the movies, like

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Speaker 1: School musical three Okay, different cinematic experiod.

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Speaker 2: Bit different. Oh, yours would have been iconic.

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Speaker 1: We were dying like we were just a bunch of

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Speaker 2: that was kind of what made me love everything that

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Speaker 1: And all of that. Yeah, exactly. And also Bridget Jones

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Speaker 1: the first movie, in my professional opinion, a perfect movie. Perfect.

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Speaker 2: I think with all that stuff that I feel like

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Speaker 1: Mark Darcy, the love interest of all the movies, like

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Speaker 1: you all of these beautiful glimmers of like the first movie,

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Speaker 1: And I almost think that if you've had the legacy

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Speaker 1: That's a whole no. No. Now they're writing too easily

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Speaker 1: on Nostoldier. The need to up the filmmaking Bridget Jones

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Speaker 2: and prejuice, which is as the iconic That should be

433
00:18:26,264 --> 00:18:28,504
Speaker 2: fine one of my weekend watches one day, but it's

434
00:18:28,544 --> 00:18:31,544
Speaker 2: like the same scene like of the man and the

435
00:18:31,584 --> 00:18:34,064
Speaker 2: white shirt and it's see through, except Leo would all

436
00:18:34,064 --> 00:18:35,504
Speaker 2: wore like a T shirt because I guess it'll be

437
00:18:35,504 --> 00:18:36,344
Speaker 2: weird if he wore.

438
00:18:36,184 --> 00:18:39,704
Speaker 1: Like a yeah, he just caught the process. And it's like.

439
00:18:39,704 --> 00:18:42,024
Speaker 2: Him diving into a pool to save a dog that's

440
00:18:42,104 --> 00:18:44,664
Speaker 2: clearly swimming, and like it's.

441
00:18:44,504 --> 00:18:47,304
Speaker 1: Clearly that little pool. It wasn't like I was like.

442
00:18:48,864 --> 00:18:51,424
Speaker 2: When he stood up and it came up to it's

443
00:18:51,464 --> 00:18:52,864
Speaker 2: like and I was like, why are you doing?

444
00:18:52,904 --> 00:18:57,184
Speaker 1: Fridge time? Why are you That's what made it so

445
00:18:57,224 --> 00:18:59,384
Speaker 1: funny and so good. It's the biggest overreaction, like you

446
00:18:59,384 --> 00:19:01,144
Speaker 1: didn't need to jump in the water and take your

447
00:19:01,184 --> 00:19:03,664
Speaker 1: shirt off, but we all appreciate that you did, and.

448
00:19:03,544 --> 00:19:06,304
Speaker 2: Like all the guests are just like pretty much clapping,

449
00:19:06,344 --> 00:19:08,824
Speaker 2: like planning applause. Where was I would have been there

450
00:19:08,864 --> 00:19:10,344
Speaker 2: and been like, oh, you got my dress a bit?

451
00:19:11,104 --> 00:19:12,064
Speaker 2: Did you really have to die?

452
00:19:12,784 --> 00:19:15,424
Speaker 1: If I saw Leo take a show, I'd applaud him,

453
00:19:15,504 --> 00:19:16,104
Speaker 1: that's for sure.

454
00:19:16,224 --> 00:19:19,864
Speaker 2: What I also like about Leo's character is that when

455
00:19:19,984 --> 00:19:24,184
Speaker 2: you see their relationship not work out, it's the most

456
00:19:24,264 --> 00:19:28,704
Speaker 2: realistic version of a twenty something year old man dating

457
00:19:29,184 --> 00:19:32,224
Speaker 2: where he really likes you until he doesn't. Yeah, and

458
00:19:32,304 --> 00:19:33,264
Speaker 2: that was literally it.

459
00:19:33,344 --> 00:19:35,824
Speaker 1: And then he doesn't have any kind of emotional or

460
00:19:36,224 --> 00:19:38,824
Speaker 1: societal standards of how to deal with something like that,

461
00:19:38,864 --> 00:19:40,984
Speaker 1: So that's why he just completely goes her and then

462
00:19:41,024 --> 00:19:42,744
Speaker 1: shows up at her place of work in front of

463
00:19:42,784 --> 00:19:46,104
Speaker 1: everyone to make a declaration. It's like no human thought

464
00:19:46,104 --> 00:19:47,624
Speaker 1: went into that whole process, and it.

465
00:19:47,624 --> 00:19:50,224
Speaker 2: Happens like that's so real, like where he would come

466
00:19:50,264 --> 00:19:52,624
Speaker 2: back and you just know if she would have gone

467
00:19:52,664 --> 00:19:54,264
Speaker 2: back with him, it would have happened again, and it

468
00:19:54,264 --> 00:19:56,424
Speaker 2: would have happened again and again and again, because that's

469
00:19:56,464 --> 00:19:59,024
Speaker 2: just what men like that are because they don't have

470
00:19:59,064 --> 00:20:03,744
Speaker 2: any strings attached. She's got work, career, kids, like family,

471
00:20:03,944 --> 00:20:08,264
Speaker 2: friends that she's having to navigate, and he has absolutely

472
00:20:08,304 --> 00:20:10,544
Speaker 2: no strings attached. So for him, this is like the

473
00:20:10,544 --> 00:20:12,984
Speaker 2: only big deal that's going on in his life, and

474
00:20:13,024 --> 00:20:15,304
Speaker 2: even that is too much, so he just removed himself

475
00:20:15,344 --> 00:20:15,624
Speaker 2: from it.

476
00:20:15,784 --> 00:20:21,144
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, Ah, so good, so good? Do we

477
00:20:21,184 --> 00:20:22,944
Speaker 1: want to talk about some of the cameos that were

478
00:20:22,984 --> 00:20:24,864
Speaker 1: in there, because there were quite a few of them.

479
00:20:25,184 --> 00:20:28,424
Speaker 2: I saw a cameo that I didn't quite get. Okay,

480
00:20:28,824 --> 00:20:30,424
Speaker 2: her neighbor Isler Fisher.

481
00:20:30,664 --> 00:20:32,824
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we have to talk about it, like,

482
00:20:32,864 --> 00:20:33,744
Speaker 1: because I.

483
00:20:33,464 --> 00:20:36,144
Speaker 2: Was researching and researching and no one could tell me why.

484
00:20:36,264 --> 00:20:39,104
Speaker 2: I like to tell you, Okay, why was Isler Fisher

485
00:20:39,144 --> 00:20:40,864
Speaker 2: in Bridget Jones for two seconds?

486
00:20:40,904 --> 00:20:43,664
Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. So Michael Morris actually has given

487
00:20:43,704 --> 00:20:45,624
Speaker 1: a couple of interviews at the premiere about this. We

488
00:20:45,704 --> 00:20:48,744
Speaker 1: finally have an answer. So in the book, that's a

489
00:20:48,784 --> 00:20:52,264
Speaker 1: bigger character of Bridget's neighbor. And so people thought when

490
00:20:52,304 --> 00:20:53,864
Speaker 1: it was announced that Eila Fisher was going to be

491
00:20:53,904 --> 00:20:55,664
Speaker 1: in the movie, that was such a big deal. She's

492
00:20:55,664 --> 00:20:58,424
Speaker 1: such a great comedy actress because her scene takes place

493
00:20:58,424 --> 00:21:00,464
Speaker 1: out on the streets. There was heaps of on set

494
00:21:00,504 --> 00:21:03,184
Speaker 1: photos released of her in her get up all that

495
00:21:03,224 --> 00:21:05,984
Speaker 1: sort of stuff, and so people were really excited. And

496
00:21:06,024 --> 00:21:08,104
Speaker 1: then you literally have this bullink and you'll miss a

497
00:21:08,184 --> 00:21:10,064
Speaker 1: cameo and I.

498
00:21:10,544 --> 00:21:12,624
Speaker 2: And she's also like a bit frazzle, like big hair,

499
00:21:12,784 --> 00:21:15,424
Speaker 2: like like moving around the lord wrangling kids. So if

500
00:21:15,464 --> 00:21:17,864
Speaker 2: you do not like honed in on it. You could

501
00:21:17,904 --> 00:21:19,304
Speaker 2: be anyone, yeah, exactly.

502
00:21:19,344 --> 00:21:22,264
Speaker 1: So when I saw that, I thought, well, surely she

503
00:21:22,384 --> 00:21:24,544
Speaker 1: has filmed a bigger part and it's been cut. It

504
00:21:24,584 --> 00:21:27,624
Speaker 1: happens sometimes whole roles get cut out. Sometimes, like you

505
00:21:27,704 --> 00:21:30,584
Speaker 1: film multiple scenes, only one goes in. And so when

506
00:21:30,584 --> 00:21:32,104
Speaker 1: I saw that, I thought we had build up of

507
00:21:32,144 --> 00:21:34,104
Speaker 1: isil of Fisher to be in one scene, and also

508
00:21:34,184 --> 00:21:35,824
Speaker 1: not just to be in even like a cute little

509
00:21:35,864 --> 00:21:38,624
Speaker 1: cameo role, more so just to be like a yeah,

510
00:21:38,664 --> 00:21:41,024
Speaker 1: like a confusing part of the story. But then the

511
00:21:41,104 --> 00:21:43,064
Speaker 1: director said at the premiere and when asked if they

512
00:21:43,064 --> 00:21:45,264
Speaker 1: had to cut her scenes, he said, no, no, no,

513
00:21:45,664 --> 00:21:48,504
Speaker 1: we would never cut anything that Eila Fisher did. How

514
00:21:48,504 --> 00:21:50,504
Speaker 1: could you even suggest such a thing, and then went

515
00:21:50,504 --> 00:21:52,024
Speaker 1: on to say that they were just so happy she

516
00:21:52,064 --> 00:21:53,984
Speaker 1: did them this huge favor to be in this one

517
00:21:54,024 --> 00:21:56,344
Speaker 1: small scene. And I was like, so, I understand if

518
00:21:56,344 --> 00:21:57,944
Speaker 1: you just had a fun little part, and you're like, oh,

519
00:21:57,944 --> 00:21:59,664
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be great if Eila Fisher did it, And

520
00:21:59,664 --> 00:22:02,024
Speaker 1: she loves the franchise, so she was happy to do it.

521
00:22:02,424 --> 00:22:04,904
Speaker 1: But it just came off very confusing and.

522
00:22:04,904 --> 00:22:08,624
Speaker 2: Weird, Like I think, what confused me is because she's

523
00:22:08,664 --> 00:22:12,064
Speaker 2: such a big actor that we all love, especially in Australia,

524
00:22:12,544 --> 00:22:14,544
Speaker 2: that when I saw her the whole movie, I was

525
00:22:14,584 --> 00:22:16,624
Speaker 2: just waiting for her to come back and she never did.

526
00:22:16,824 --> 00:22:19,184
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were waiting again. I believe she has a

527
00:22:19,264 --> 00:22:21,704
Speaker 1: much bigger part in the book, but you were waiting

528
00:22:21,704 --> 00:22:23,664
Speaker 1: for that cameo to have a bit of a payoff later,

529
00:22:23,744 --> 00:22:25,264
Speaker 1: for her to have some sort of like even if

530
00:22:25,304 --> 00:22:28,024
Speaker 1: it's just a little mums in the street moment with Bridget,

531
00:22:28,024 --> 00:22:30,624
Speaker 1: and she never came back, so it's just distracting. They

532
00:22:30,664 --> 00:22:32,664
Speaker 1: were really good about bringing all the other characters who

533
00:22:32,704 --> 00:22:34,584
Speaker 1: came back for a cameo at least felt like they

534
00:22:34,624 --> 00:22:36,224
Speaker 1: were very part of the plot because most of them

535
00:22:36,264 --> 00:22:38,824
Speaker 1: had been in all the other Bridget Jones movies. So

536
00:22:38,864 --> 00:22:42,384
Speaker 1: you had Sally Phillips, Shelley Henderson, and James Callis. Sally Phillips,

537
00:22:42,384 --> 00:22:44,544
Speaker 1: I just so fucking can love her, and I love

538
00:22:44,584 --> 00:22:46,384
Speaker 1: that she because she was an Australian premiere, because she

539
00:22:46,384 --> 00:22:48,544
Speaker 1: and and I are really close in real life. So

540
00:22:48,864 --> 00:22:52,584
Speaker 1: you have the Bridget's three best friends from the first movie. Also,

541
00:22:52,664 --> 00:22:53,984
Speaker 1: do you notice some of they did the cheers in

542
00:22:54,024 --> 00:22:56,944
Speaker 1: the bar? They were all blue cocktails. That was an

543
00:22:56,944 --> 00:22:58,904
Speaker 1: homage to the first movie where she makes the blue

544
00:22:58,944 --> 00:23:02,544
Speaker 1: string suit by mistake and mister Darcy comes in. I'm

545
00:23:02,704 --> 00:23:04,784
Speaker 1: finding all of these little what do you mean. I

546
00:23:04,824 --> 00:23:06,704
Speaker 1: watched the first movie and I watched this movie.

547
00:23:06,904 --> 00:23:08,624
Speaker 2: It's crazy that you made that connection.

548
00:23:08,864 --> 00:23:11,584
Speaker 1: It's not meant to be a seek. Oh my god,

549
00:23:12,784 --> 00:23:14,744
Speaker 1: it's just meant to be this. Like I said, every

550
00:23:14,824 --> 00:23:17,464
Speaker 1: moment of this new movie is hitting you over the

551
00:23:17,504 --> 00:23:21,184
Speaker 1: head with the first movie. And some might say cheap storytelling.

552
00:23:21,304 --> 00:23:24,584
Speaker 1: I say, you've earned it after twenty years. That's fine. Okay.

553
00:23:24,624 --> 00:23:26,384
Speaker 1: Do we want to move on to Hugh Grant before

554
00:23:26,384 --> 00:23:28,384
Speaker 1: we get into the ending and the love story here?

555
00:23:28,544 --> 00:23:33,144
Speaker 2: Grant? Oh, he is so good, so good, And I

556
00:23:33,344 --> 00:23:36,384
Speaker 2: was actually so happy, like I think he made this

557
00:23:36,464 --> 00:23:39,344
Speaker 2: movie for me, because yeah, because when I heard that

558
00:23:39,424 --> 00:23:41,624
Speaker 2: he was coming back into the movie, and because they

559
00:23:41,704 --> 00:23:43,864
Speaker 2: used him a lot in the trailer, I'm like, oh,

560
00:23:43,984 --> 00:23:46,024
Speaker 2: I hate it when they use like like a big

561
00:23:46,064 --> 00:23:47,864
Speaker 2: actor in the trailer because you feel like that that's

562
00:23:47,904 --> 00:23:49,424
Speaker 2: going to be the only scenes you see are the

563
00:23:49,424 --> 00:23:51,864
Speaker 2: ones in the trailer. He was in this movie quite

564
00:23:51,864 --> 00:23:52,144
Speaker 2: a lot.

565
00:23:52,224 --> 00:23:56,504
Speaker 1: Oh written, So I actually think Daniel Cleaver is one

566
00:23:56,544 --> 00:23:58,624
Speaker 1: of his greatest roles of all time from the original

567
00:23:58,624 --> 00:24:00,944
Speaker 1: Bridget Jones, because again, you've got to think that was

568
00:24:00,984 --> 00:24:03,424
Speaker 1: a huge departure for him at the time, Like he

569
00:24:03,464 --> 00:24:06,664
Speaker 1: hadn't always played the kind of goofy romcom guy, but

570
00:24:06,664 --> 00:24:09,144
Speaker 1: that's what he was really known for, the stuttering, goofy

571
00:24:09,544 --> 00:24:12,424
Speaker 1: romcom guy with like the foppish hair and the shy smile.

572
00:24:12,784 --> 00:24:15,504
Speaker 1: And him playing this absolute bad boy, which we now

573
00:24:15,504 --> 00:24:18,104
Speaker 1: know is much closer to his real life character, was

574
00:24:18,264 --> 00:24:21,664
Speaker 1: just I get felt quite groundbreaking at the time, and

575
00:24:21,904 --> 00:24:24,184
Speaker 1: I thought that he brought that same energy to this role.

576
00:24:24,184 --> 00:24:26,224
Speaker 1: I love that he and Bridget are friends and that

577
00:24:26,264 --> 00:24:28,744
Speaker 1: his kids call him Uncle Daniel. And I also love

578
00:24:28,864 --> 00:24:31,304
Speaker 1: just his introduction that he's out of poetry reading answers

579
00:24:31,344 --> 00:24:33,344
Speaker 1: his phone and it's just because he's hooking up with

580
00:24:33,344 --> 00:24:35,224
Speaker 1: the young girl who's doing the poetry. And I say

581
00:24:35,264 --> 00:24:37,624
Speaker 1: young girl because she's like twenty and he's cleaning his

582
00:24:37,664 --> 00:24:40,144
Speaker 1: fifties or sixties, and you just see him be this

583
00:24:40,264 --> 00:24:42,704
Speaker 1: kind of dishevelled mess who is still going to like

584
00:24:42,744 --> 00:24:45,264
Speaker 1: help Bridge out when she needs it. So I loved that.

585
00:24:45,944 --> 00:24:49,144
Speaker 1: I hated the way they ended his character too, I

586
00:24:49,184 --> 00:24:51,264
Speaker 1: was like, I'm sorry to say that this doesn't have

587
00:24:51,304 --> 00:24:53,304
Speaker 1: to be a big moral lesson that if you don't

588
00:24:53,304 --> 00:24:55,584
Speaker 1: have children, you're a bad person who's going to regret

589
00:24:55,584 --> 00:24:59,144
Speaker 1: your life. Again, not everyone changes their personality when they

590
00:24:59,184 --> 00:25:04,304
Speaker 1: get older. Why could it. Daniel Cleaver still be a sexy,

591
00:25:04,424 --> 00:25:09,024
Speaker 1: terrible playboy in his sixties and that's just who he is,

592
00:25:09,064 --> 00:25:11,504
Speaker 1: and the people in his life, like Bridget just still

593
00:25:11,504 --> 00:25:13,224
Speaker 1: love him for it. Why do they have to give

594
00:25:13,264 --> 00:25:15,104
Speaker 1: him this whole story of like, oh no, no, he

595
00:25:15,144 --> 00:25:17,944
Speaker 1: has a son, so it's like, Okay, he's redeemable because

596
00:25:17,984 --> 00:25:20,584
Speaker 1: he has a child. Guys, he's not a bad person

597
00:25:20,704 --> 00:25:22,424
Speaker 1: because he has a child, Like you can still be

598
00:25:22,464 --> 00:25:25,104
Speaker 1: a bad person and have a child, and bringing his

599
00:25:25,184 --> 00:25:27,624
Speaker 1: son into the end of the movie and showing them

600
00:25:27,664 --> 00:25:30,504
Speaker 1: have a relationship like I guess lovely and again, these

601
00:25:30,504 --> 00:25:32,984
Speaker 1: are Helen Fielding's characters, so she gets to say what

602
00:25:33,064 --> 00:25:35,504
Speaker 1: happens to them. But I felt it was such a

603
00:25:35,624 --> 00:25:37,904
Speaker 1: like it was a dismissal of his character. And again

604
00:25:37,944 --> 00:25:39,664
Speaker 1: this thing that everyone has to be wrapped up in

605
00:25:39,704 --> 00:25:42,744
Speaker 1: this perfect bowl of like he was this really interesting character,

606
00:25:42,784 --> 00:25:44,744
Speaker 1: but don't worry, guys, he's actually a dad he loves

607
00:25:44,784 --> 00:25:46,864
Speaker 1: his kids, so he's a good person, Like he can

608
00:25:46,904 --> 00:25:49,904
Speaker 1: have a proper story ending just let him be a cat.

609
00:25:50,064 --> 00:25:52,464
Speaker 2: I hated that, and I think they should have ended

610
00:25:52,504 --> 00:25:55,304
Speaker 2: his storyline when he was in hospital, like.

611
00:25:55,304 --> 00:25:56,624
Speaker 1: Oh no, I wanted him to beat the New Y's

612
00:25:56,664 --> 00:25:57,304
Speaker 1: e party.

613
00:25:59,184 --> 00:26:01,904
Speaker 2: Party, but I think his storyline should have ended at

614
00:26:01,904 --> 00:26:04,664
Speaker 2: the hospital where he's seeing like he's just had like

615
00:26:04,744 --> 00:26:06,824
Speaker 2: this epiphany of what his life could be like. And

616
00:26:06,864 --> 00:26:09,544
Speaker 2: I think, like him just sitting in that moment and

617
00:26:09,664 --> 00:26:11,504
Speaker 2: us just not really sure what he's going to be

618
00:26:11,544 --> 00:26:13,704
Speaker 2: doing with that going forward would have been better than

619
00:26:14,024 --> 00:26:16,424
Speaker 2: doing the whole reunion with the sun and apparently like

620
00:26:16,464 --> 00:26:18,664
Speaker 2: his son's forgiven him in like a day after him

621
00:26:18,704 --> 00:26:20,984
Speaker 2: being out of his life and not even showing us

622
00:26:20,984 --> 00:26:23,864
Speaker 2: like how that relationship was mended. Like I think a

623
00:26:23,864 --> 00:26:26,184
Speaker 2: lot of corners were cut with his character. Yeah, and

624
00:26:26,184 --> 00:26:28,024
Speaker 2: it was such a good character, which is why I

625
00:26:28,064 --> 00:26:31,224
Speaker 2: hated that. It's like quickly, let's just fix this up

626
00:26:31,224 --> 00:26:32,224
Speaker 2: and then it's done.

627
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:35,064
Speaker 1: And I hated that, Yeah, exactly. It just felt again

628
00:26:35,064 --> 00:26:37,184
Speaker 1: like a cheap way to kind of tie his character

629
00:26:37,264 --> 00:26:38,944
Speaker 1: up in a boat when it didn't need to be that.

630
00:26:39,104 --> 00:26:41,344
Speaker 1: Like some people are just the same all the way

631
00:26:41,384 --> 00:26:43,984
Speaker 1: through their lives. And that's what makes interesting characters. And

632
00:26:44,024 --> 00:26:45,704
Speaker 1: that's the characters you want to see in a movie,

633
00:26:46,024 --> 00:26:48,824
Speaker 1: not every person saying like, oh, I'm really sorry for

634
00:26:48,864 --> 00:26:50,984
Speaker 1: everything I did for the past three movies. I'm going

635
00:26:51,024 --> 00:26:52,704
Speaker 1: to be a different person, Like I don't want that.

636
00:26:52,904 --> 00:26:54,304
Speaker 1: But apart from that, great loved him.

637
00:26:54,464 --> 00:26:56,944
Speaker 2: The other person I wanted to talk about was Jim

638
00:26:56,984 --> 00:26:58,584
Speaker 2: Bowman as the dad.

639
00:26:58,984 --> 00:27:03,864
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cried, I died in that scene, I think,

640
00:27:04,384 --> 00:27:06,904
Speaker 3: And actually Holly wayn Wright speaks about this a lot

641
00:27:06,944 --> 00:27:09,984
Speaker 3: about being in that like Sandwich generation where you have

642
00:27:10,584 --> 00:27:14,064
Speaker 3: kids to look after, but you're also looking after your parents.

643
00:27:14,664 --> 00:27:17,064
Speaker 2: And my parents are in that generation as well, because

644
00:27:17,064 --> 00:27:19,144
Speaker 2: I'm still a child. Yeah, you need a while looking

645
00:27:19,184 --> 00:27:22,744
Speaker 2: after and they're also looking after their parents, and it's

646
00:27:22,784 --> 00:27:24,824
Speaker 2: one of those situations. And I think that scene of

647
00:27:24,864 --> 00:27:28,184
Speaker 2: her just like looking at that photo and like remembering

648
00:27:28,224 --> 00:27:30,784
Speaker 2: the last happy moment she had with her dad before

649
00:27:30,904 --> 00:27:33,384
Speaker 2: he passed away, and then her just sitting on the

650
00:27:33,424 --> 00:27:37,024
Speaker 2: couch by herself with her wine and trying to open Netflix.

651
00:27:37,624 --> 00:27:39,424
Speaker 2: And then they quickly made a joke about that, but

652
00:27:39,544 --> 00:27:41,464
Speaker 2: just like her in that little bit of a moment

653
00:27:41,544 --> 00:27:45,984
Speaker 2: where she just feels so alone, and it's one of

654
00:27:45,984 --> 00:27:49,464
Speaker 2: those situations that must be so hard to have kids

655
00:27:49,504 --> 00:27:52,264
Speaker 2: and have people who are so reliant on your happiness

656
00:27:52,384 --> 00:27:54,784
Speaker 2: for you to always be happy and always be put

657
00:27:54,824 --> 00:27:58,424
Speaker 2: together and always like be there for them, and you

658
00:27:58,464 --> 00:28:01,704
Speaker 2: don't have that for yourself anymore. And I'm like, oh,

659
00:28:02,024 --> 00:28:04,064
Speaker 2: just that one scene with like looking at that photo

660
00:28:04,184 --> 00:28:06,104
Speaker 2: just like broke me down completely.

661
00:28:06,664 --> 00:28:09,104
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh look, there was so many. It's so funny

662
00:28:09,104 --> 00:28:10,624
Speaker 1: because after I went to the premiere, I was in

663
00:28:10,664 --> 00:28:12,304
Speaker 1: a group chat with all my friends who just love

664
00:28:12,344 --> 00:28:14,744
Speaker 1: Bridget Jones so much, and I was saying to them, like,

665
00:28:14,824 --> 00:28:17,504
Speaker 1: I know the exact moments where you guys are gonna cry,

666
00:28:17,784 --> 00:28:19,544
Speaker 1: so come back to me afterwards. We'll talk about it.

667
00:28:19,584 --> 00:28:21,464
Speaker 1: In our whole group chat. Of my friends were chatting

668
00:28:21,504 --> 00:28:23,784
Speaker 1: about it, and I thought the way that they honored

669
00:28:23,864 --> 00:28:26,344
Speaker 1: Mark Darcy throughout the movie was really beautiful, like not

670
00:28:26,384 --> 00:28:29,464
Speaker 1: only having Colin Firth in some of the scenes, but

671
00:28:29,544 --> 00:28:31,544
Speaker 1: just all the little I didn't love the aur thing,

672
00:28:31,624 --> 00:28:33,744
Speaker 1: I gotta say, but also maybe it was nice symbolism

673
00:28:33,784 --> 00:28:35,864
Speaker 1: for the kids just kind of have that in their heads.

674
00:28:35,984 --> 00:28:38,424
Speaker 1: I thought one of the most beautiful touches to remembering

675
00:28:38,584 --> 00:28:43,464
Speaker 1: don't cry. So remembering Mark was that in every movie,

676
00:28:43,864 --> 00:28:48,224
Speaker 1: Bridget Jones wears a classic Tiffany and Co Heart necklace. Yeah,

677
00:28:48,384 --> 00:28:51,304
Speaker 1: it's a little movie, the little necklace she's got in

678
00:28:51,344 --> 00:28:53,584
Speaker 1: every movie, and she's wearing it again in this movie.

679
00:28:53,944 --> 00:28:56,304
Speaker 1: But in this movie they added a little D little

680
00:28:56,384 --> 00:29:00,024
Speaker 1: D charm for Darcy, so she's wearing him also. In

681
00:29:00,064 --> 00:29:03,744
Speaker 1: all the moments, she's wearing him on her heart, except

682
00:29:03,784 --> 00:29:05,784
Speaker 1: for the New Year's Eve scene where she's taken it

683
00:29:05,824 --> 00:29:08,224
Speaker 1: off because obviously she's got a new boyfriend.

684
00:29:07,824 --> 00:29:09,824
Speaker 2: There but it's bad luck.

685
00:29:10,464 --> 00:29:12,824
Speaker 1: No, But then you notice it's around Mabel's neck, her daughter,

686
00:29:12,864 --> 00:29:14,504
Speaker 1: So I didn't even notice that.

687
00:29:14,784 --> 00:29:17,384
Speaker 2: Yeah.

688
00:29:17,424 --> 00:29:19,864
Speaker 1: And the other big moment that I got really terious

689
00:29:19,864 --> 00:29:23,464
Speaker 1: when they went off with the balloons to that balloon.

690
00:29:23,264 --> 00:29:26,824
Speaker 2: Scene, and I think just that whole scene was so sad.

691
00:29:26,864 --> 00:29:29,664
Speaker 2: But what made me like actually cry in that scene

692
00:29:30,224 --> 00:29:33,384
Speaker 2: was when they were walking back to the house because

693
00:29:33,424 --> 00:29:36,264
Speaker 2: I think because her kids are obviously so young, so

694
00:29:36,304 --> 00:29:39,544
Speaker 2: they probably they're probably definitely really sad, but it's like

695
00:29:39,704 --> 00:29:42,704
Speaker 2: that kind of child sadness where then you you don't

696
00:29:42,824 --> 00:29:45,864
Speaker 2: feel like sad for your parents, like you feel sad

697
00:29:45,864 --> 00:29:49,144
Speaker 2: for yourself because you're like mom and Dad don't get sad,

698
00:29:49,224 --> 00:29:51,744
Speaker 2: Like they don't cry, they're fine, And just her like

699
00:29:51,824 --> 00:29:53,624
Speaker 2: kind of being like jolly and walking back to the

700
00:29:53,664 --> 00:29:56,704
Speaker 2: house again where you feel like she's probably like crumbling

701
00:29:56,744 --> 00:29:59,304
Speaker 2: on the inn, but she has to say it's wrong

702
00:29:59,344 --> 00:29:59,864
Speaker 2: for them.

703
00:30:00,744 --> 00:30:02,704
Speaker 1: Yeah, because she knows that Billy's feeling a loss of

704
00:30:02,744 --> 00:30:05,224
Speaker 1: his dad so much. And then there's that really sad

705
00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:07,304
Speaker 1: scene where she's like and Mabel doesn't even know him,

706
00:30:07,424 --> 00:30:09,544
Speaker 1: Like what am I? She doesn't remember him? So you

707
00:30:09,544 --> 00:30:12,064
Speaker 1: know that this kind of like this movie as much

708
00:30:12,064 --> 00:30:13,824
Speaker 1: as I'm sort of talking about it, like relying on

709
00:30:13,904 --> 00:30:16,224
Speaker 1: nostalgia and stuff, what it did really well as a

710
00:30:16,264 --> 00:30:20,064
Speaker 1: standalone element was just show all the different facets of grief.

711
00:30:20,184 --> 00:30:22,224
Speaker 1: Like you see her have anger, you see her have

712
00:30:22,304 --> 00:30:24,904
Speaker 1: this real sorrow, You see her have acceptance. You see

713
00:30:24,944 --> 00:30:26,744
Speaker 1: her kind of throw everything out the window and have

714
00:30:26,784 --> 00:30:29,384
Speaker 1: this like wild time to sort of remove herself from

715
00:30:29,384 --> 00:30:32,224
Speaker 1: the situation. And then you see her also sometimes just

716
00:30:32,304 --> 00:30:34,144
Speaker 1: not being like the perfect mother to her kids and

717
00:30:34,184 --> 00:30:36,904
Speaker 1: like locking herself away, because that's very realistic as well,

718
00:30:37,224 --> 00:30:39,504
Speaker 1: and all these different facets of like grief and how

719
00:30:39,544 --> 00:30:41,584
Speaker 1: you move on. So I think in that I was like,

720
00:30:41,664 --> 00:30:43,424
Speaker 1: oh my god, Bridge Jones, you guys knocked it out

721
00:30:43,424 --> 00:30:46,344
Speaker 1: of the park with this, Yeah, okay, getting onto the

722
00:30:46,504 --> 00:30:50,904
Speaker 1: ending and the romance. So it was always going to

723
00:30:50,984 --> 00:30:53,024
Speaker 1: be hard to bring in that person who would not

724
00:30:53,144 --> 00:30:56,224
Speaker 1: replace marked Us because obviously no one can but bring

725
00:30:56,224 --> 00:30:59,024
Speaker 1: in someone to this franchise that has been so hooked

726
00:30:59,064 --> 00:31:01,464
Speaker 1: on this one man, and to bring in another leading

727
00:31:01,504 --> 00:31:04,064
Speaker 1: man to kind of end the story on him because

728
00:31:04,104 --> 00:31:06,024
Speaker 1: they've said they're probably not going to do another movie.

729
00:31:06,304 --> 00:31:09,824
Speaker 1: And so I think the casting of Chutel Edge of

730
00:31:09,864 --> 00:31:12,824
Speaker 1: four was really important because you're already going into it

731
00:31:12,864 --> 00:31:14,064
Speaker 1: being like, okay, I'm open to this.

732
00:31:14,544 --> 00:31:18,544
Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved his character so much. And I loved

733
00:31:18,544 --> 00:31:22,184
Speaker 2: his character because, like we all knew that they were

734
00:31:22,184 --> 00:31:25,024
Speaker 2: going to end up together like from the start. But

735
00:31:25,144 --> 00:31:27,704
Speaker 2: I like how they made him just I don't know

736
00:31:27,744 --> 00:31:31,224
Speaker 2: how to explain it. They just made him so simple

737
00:31:32,024 --> 00:31:36,544
Speaker 2: in a way where he's not like mysterious and he's

738
00:31:36,584 --> 00:31:39,184
Speaker 2: not like overtly like he's still the most good looking

739
00:31:39,184 --> 00:31:42,784
Speaker 2: man in the whole movie, he's like not like overtly sexy,

740
00:31:43,104 --> 00:31:44,944
Speaker 2: and he's like he takes his top of later on

741
00:31:45,224 --> 00:31:47,304
Speaker 2: she's got like a full six. She's like, I'm hello,

742
00:31:47,544 --> 00:31:50,064
Speaker 2: all of our faces, Oh my god. And he's just

743
00:31:50,104 --> 00:31:52,864
Speaker 2: like very much like very like brunt and honest, and

744
00:31:52,904 --> 00:31:55,904
Speaker 2: then you just see her become attracted to a man

745
00:31:56,104 --> 00:31:59,064
Speaker 2: for the first time through kindness rather than from what

746
00:31:59,104 --> 00:32:00,984
Speaker 2: he just looks like straight up. And I thought that

747
00:32:01,064 --> 00:32:01,744
Speaker 2: was really cute.

748
00:32:01,904 --> 00:32:04,544
Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved that. And again it kind of mirrors.

749
00:32:04,664 --> 00:32:06,304
Speaker 1: It's not as much as a love triangle as the

750
00:32:06,344 --> 00:32:09,024
Speaker 1: first movie, but the two leading men in this so

751
00:32:09,184 --> 00:32:11,864
Speaker 1: mister Walla cart is almost like the mister Darcy of

752
00:32:11,864 --> 00:32:15,064
Speaker 1: the movie, where at first he's really like abrupt and

753
00:32:15,184 --> 00:32:17,624
Speaker 1: really like business and like kind of like you know,

754
00:32:17,744 --> 00:32:19,984
Speaker 1: speaks very curtly to Bridget and doesn't really give her

755
00:32:19,984 --> 00:32:22,184
Speaker 1: the time of day, and there's kind of like you're

756
00:32:22,184 --> 00:32:24,744
Speaker 1: just like gross, like he's obviously we're all in love

757
00:32:24,744 --> 00:32:25,024
Speaker 1: with him.

758
00:32:25,064 --> 00:32:27,264
Speaker 2: But I always just imagine whenever I think of him

759
00:32:27,304 --> 00:32:30,304
Speaker 2: as like just the playboy bunny scene when she's dressed up.

760
00:32:30,504 --> 00:32:37,104
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what again a perfect movie. Whereas Roster kind

761
00:32:37,104 --> 00:32:39,144
Speaker 1: of takes on the Daniel Cleaver a role a little

762
00:32:39,144 --> 00:32:41,824
Speaker 1: bit where he's the fun, good looking cat like you

763
00:32:41,864 --> 00:32:43,704
Speaker 1: want him at the party, with your friends, you're having

764
00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:45,824
Speaker 1: wild sex with him all those things. At the end

765
00:32:45,824 --> 00:32:49,424
Speaker 1: of the day when he ignores you, it's cool, yeah, yeah, exactly,

766
00:32:49,664 --> 00:32:52,024
Speaker 1: but you don't want to be in relationship with him

767
00:32:52,024 --> 00:32:53,824
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. So I found that's

768
00:32:53,864 --> 00:32:55,784
Speaker 1: how they kind of brought over mister Wallerker. I didn't

769
00:32:55,784 --> 00:32:57,064
Speaker 1: even know what his first name is, to be honest,

770
00:32:57,104 --> 00:32:59,344
Speaker 1: because she called him mister wall Remember at the end

771
00:32:59,344 --> 00:33:03,264
Speaker 1: of the movie, he's like, call me whatever, first name Jeohn, No,

772
00:33:03,984 --> 00:33:06,304
Speaker 1: he's mister Waller me and I'm okay with that. I

773
00:33:06,344 --> 00:33:08,144
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of really lovely done because it's

774
00:33:08,184 --> 00:33:10,664
Speaker 1: a bit of a slow burn romance, which is where's

775
00:33:10,664 --> 00:33:12,344
Speaker 1: my favorite kind? And like they kind of have this

776
00:33:12,424 --> 00:33:15,504
Speaker 1: very formal relationship. Then then they come a bit more chatty.

777
00:33:15,704 --> 00:33:17,704
Speaker 1: He's behind her and the shot buying all the condoms,

778
00:33:17,744 --> 00:33:20,064
Speaker 1: which I thought was have a good weekend, missus Darcy.

779
00:33:21,744 --> 00:33:22,984
Speaker 1: And then I think when they have that sort of

780
00:33:23,024 --> 00:33:26,144
Speaker 1: moment when they're camping, is just like a really lovely,

781
00:33:26,184 --> 00:33:29,144
Speaker 1: full circle moment, but obviously the loveliest moment. Did you

782
00:33:29,184 --> 00:33:31,184
Speaker 1: cry this bit too? When he helps Billy do the

783
00:33:31,224 --> 00:33:32,624
Speaker 1: song for the talent show.

784
00:33:32,864 --> 00:33:34,384
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot about them.

785
00:33:34,624 --> 00:33:37,224
Speaker 1: It cuts to Colin Firth being like he was filmed

786
00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:39,624
Speaker 1: like in the room and the biggest thing is he's

787
00:33:39,664 --> 00:33:44,664
Speaker 1: wearing the reindeer jumper from the Turkey curry buffet. That

788
00:33:45,184 --> 00:33:45,864
Speaker 1: are you gonna cry now?

789
00:33:46,144 --> 00:33:48,224
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like then you just see her. She's like

790
00:33:48,264 --> 00:33:50,104
Speaker 2: she obviously had her babysit that with her.

791
00:33:50,024 --> 00:33:53,064
Speaker 1: But her nanny Nanny that's Tandaway Newton's daughter.

792
00:33:53,784 --> 00:33:56,784
Speaker 2: She was in Parker The Last of Us, but like

793
00:33:56,904 --> 00:33:59,544
Speaker 2: as like the single mom, Like she's just watching her

794
00:33:59,584 --> 00:34:01,304
Speaker 2: kids and it's one of those situations where you just

795
00:34:01,344 --> 00:34:03,704
Speaker 2: want someone to really enjoy it with. And then when

796
00:34:03,704 --> 00:34:05,704
Speaker 2: she looks to her right, he's standing there and I.

797
00:34:05,704 --> 00:34:09,624
Speaker 1: Was like, and that is at the end of the day.

798
00:34:09,664 --> 00:34:12,104
Speaker 1: You're like, it's so small moments of like it's like

799
00:34:12,144 --> 00:34:15,104
Speaker 1: going back to pride and prejudice when that version of

800
00:34:15,104 --> 00:34:18,104
Speaker 1: mister Darcy goes and saves Elizabeth's sister from ruin and

801
00:34:18,144 --> 00:34:20,144
Speaker 1: like you know, pays for the marriage and stuff. And

802
00:34:20,184 --> 00:34:22,624
Speaker 1: then in Bridget Jones where he goes and sorts everything

803
00:34:22,624 --> 00:34:24,824
Speaker 1: out for her mum, and then in this it's a

804
00:34:24,824 --> 00:34:27,384
Speaker 1: different thing, but it's mister Wallaker also helping Billy through

805
00:34:27,384 --> 00:34:29,344
Speaker 1: what he's going through and helping and have this moment,

806
00:34:29,624 --> 00:34:31,384
Speaker 1: and that's when she falls in love with him because

807
00:34:31,384 --> 00:34:33,984
Speaker 1: she realizes that he's done something for her so completely

808
00:34:34,024 --> 00:34:37,864
Speaker 1: selfless and such a beautiful outcome, which is why she

809
00:34:37,944 --> 00:34:40,384
Speaker 1: fell in love with Mark Darcy in the first place,

810
00:34:40,384 --> 00:34:42,784
Speaker 1: which kind of gives you that moment to have her

811
00:34:42,824 --> 00:34:44,624
Speaker 1: fall in love with him. I've thought it's have been

812
00:34:44,664 --> 00:34:46,584
Speaker 1: intense how they tried to recreate like you know in

813
00:34:46,624 --> 00:34:48,384
Speaker 1: the original movie she runs out in the snow and

814
00:34:48,464 --> 00:34:48,904
Speaker 1: chases y.

815
00:34:48,984 --> 00:34:50,464
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a bit offered by then.

816
00:34:51,064 --> 00:34:53,984
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I didn't mind it, and I

817
00:34:54,024 --> 00:34:55,664
Speaker 1: was like, look, we've come this. Take me to the

818
00:34:55,664 --> 00:34:57,544
Speaker 1: party Saints. I was like, we've come this file, let's

819
00:34:57,544 --> 00:35:00,144
Speaker 1: go toget. So the costumes actually thought about not putting

820
00:35:00,184 --> 00:35:02,264
Speaker 1: her an underwrotter jump because that wouldn't have fitted the scene,

821
00:35:02,824 --> 00:35:05,464
Speaker 1: putting her in the exact same sort of coloring and everything,

822
00:35:05,464 --> 00:35:07,264
Speaker 1: and they do to an extent, like she's wearing the

823
00:35:07,304 --> 00:35:09,224
Speaker 1: same sort of kind of muted top that she's wearing

824
00:35:09,304 --> 00:35:12,424
Speaker 1: that snow scene, but it's more just the physical activity

825
00:35:12,504 --> 00:35:15,224
Speaker 1: than the outfit that's meant to mirror that scene. But yeah,

826
00:35:15,264 --> 00:35:16,784
Speaker 1: you see her chase him through the street in the

827
00:35:16,824 --> 00:35:19,144
Speaker 1: snow and they had their first kiss. And again it's

828
00:35:19,304 --> 00:35:21,984
Speaker 1: very heavy handed looking into the first movie, but by

829
00:35:21,984 --> 00:35:24,304
Speaker 1: that stage I was like, it's fine, it's the last movie.

830
00:35:24,344 --> 00:35:26,504
Speaker 1: They can do what they want. Yeah, and again that's

831
00:35:26,544 --> 00:35:28,264
Speaker 1: all all there for. We're there to have that kind

832
00:35:28,304 --> 00:35:30,984
Speaker 1: of last hit of romance with Bridget Jones. So final

833
00:35:31,024 --> 00:35:32,984
Speaker 1: thoughts on the movie, Yeah, nay. I feel like it's

834
00:35:32,984 --> 00:35:34,224
Speaker 1: a bit of yay from you the whole movie.

835
00:35:34,344 --> 00:35:37,024
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a yay from me. My order are favorites.

836
00:35:37,144 --> 00:35:39,784
Speaker 2: It goes one, two, four.

837
00:35:39,784 --> 00:35:45,144
Speaker 1: Three, Oh okay. I was like, surely that's I know.

838
00:35:45,184 --> 00:35:46,904
Speaker 1: I nearly had a moment where I was like, do

839
00:35:46,984 --> 00:35:50,424
Speaker 1: I put four before two? Yeah? Maybe? But we all

840
00:35:50,424 --> 00:35:53,744
Speaker 1: know last, Yeah, we all know. Yeah. So if you're

841
00:35:53,744 --> 00:35:55,544
Speaker 1: a massive Bridge Jones fan, I mean you're probably seen

842
00:35:55,584 --> 00:35:57,424
Speaker 1: all the movies, but you could just kind of skip three.

843
00:35:57,824 --> 00:36:02,184
Speaker 1: Just read we read the Wikipedia entry. You'll be fine.

844
00:36:02,664 --> 00:36:05,064
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to this bill today.

845
00:36:05,104 --> 00:36:06,904
Speaker 2: If you love our episodes where we do our breudly

846
00:36:06,904 --> 00:36:10,184
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847
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848
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849
00:36:15,904 --> 00:36:17,664
Speaker 2: give that a listen. You can scroll up in your

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Speaker 2: feed to find it, or we will put a link

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Speaker 2: in our show notes. The Spill is produced by Kimberly

852
00:36:21,984 --> 00:36:24,344
Speaker 2: Bradish with sound production by Scott Stronik and we'll be

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