1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:23,874 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,994 --> 00:00:21,793 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to this Bill your daily pop 3 00:00:21,834 --> 00:00:22,473 Speaker 2: culture fix. 4 00:00:22,594 --> 00:00:24,514 Speaker 3: I'm Laura Brodney and I'm Cassanilakitch. 5 00:00:24,714 --> 00:00:27,474 Speaker 2: And coming up on the show today, Keith Urban allegedly 6 00:00:27,594 --> 00:00:29,434 Speaker 2: has a new girlfriend. We're going to get into that, 7 00:00:29,514 --> 00:00:32,314 Speaker 2: but also the very different ways that he and Nicole 8 00:00:32,354 --> 00:00:35,034 Speaker 2: Kidman are navigating their first year of divorce in the 9 00:00:35,074 --> 00:00:38,554 Speaker 2: public eye, because they've got very different playbooks that they're 10 00:00:38,594 --> 00:00:41,754 Speaker 2: working from. From everything we can see, Plus, we've got 11 00:00:41,793 --> 00:00:44,314 Speaker 2: the first look of Sophie Turner in the new Lara 12 00:00:44,394 --> 00:00:47,073 Speaker 2: Croft series and also the first trailer for her new 13 00:00:47,074 --> 00:00:49,354 Speaker 2: TV series with kitd Harrington. A lot to talk about there, 14 00:00:49,634 --> 00:00:51,874 Speaker 2: but with the Lara Croft photo there is a little 15 00:00:51,913 --> 00:00:53,754 Speaker 2: bit of a drama or a little bit of intrigue 16 00:00:53,794 --> 00:00:56,194 Speaker 2: maybe intrigues a better word, behind the scenes that we're 17 00:00:56,194 --> 00:00:56,834 Speaker 2: going to get into. 18 00:00:56,954 --> 00:01:00,474 Speaker 1: But first we have the twenty twenty six edition of 19 00:01:00,514 --> 00:01:02,834 Speaker 1: I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here at premiered 20 00:01:03,114 --> 00:01:06,034 Speaker 1: last night on Channel ten, and. 21 00:01:05,954 --> 00:01:08,394 Speaker 3: There's quite a few sort of big names in there. 22 00:01:08,434 --> 00:01:11,114 Speaker 1: But you know, as with every single year of I'm 23 00:01:11,154 --> 00:01:13,954 Speaker 1: a celeb we always get the who are these people. 24 00:01:14,394 --> 00:01:17,274 Speaker 2: Yeah, we look, we need to retire that because every 25 00:01:17,354 --> 00:01:19,354 Speaker 2: year there's all these guesses, and people will guess these 26 00:01:19,474 --> 00:01:22,474 Speaker 2: huge celebrity names. It's a bit like marsk Skit singer 27 00:01:22,514 --> 00:01:25,314 Speaker 2: when everyone's like, oh, it's Taylor Swift under that. Yeah, 28 00:01:25,314 --> 00:01:27,314 Speaker 2: and then it's like a neighbor star from ten years ago. 29 00:01:27,354 --> 00:01:28,834 Speaker 2: But the thing is, we know what the show is 30 00:01:28,834 --> 00:01:30,474 Speaker 2: going to be going into it. We know that celeb 31 00:01:30,594 --> 00:01:31,914 Speaker 2: is kind of like a bit of a catch all 32 00:01:31,954 --> 00:01:34,594 Speaker 2: for anyone with a slight kind of public profile. Yeah, 33 00:01:34,634 --> 00:01:35,994 Speaker 2: and that's okay, that's what the show is. 34 00:01:36,074 --> 00:01:37,154 Speaker 3: That's exactly right now. 35 00:01:37,194 --> 00:01:39,714 Speaker 1: It's a little bit different this year because this year 36 00:01:39,754 --> 00:01:42,154 Speaker 1: they actually pre recorded the entire series. 37 00:01:42,354 --> 00:01:43,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think about that? 38 00:01:44,194 --> 00:01:45,674 Speaker 3: So I think it's interesting. 39 00:01:45,714 --> 00:01:48,394 Speaker 1: I think it makes sense because as we know, live 40 00:01:48,434 --> 00:01:52,634 Speaker 1: production is going to cost more money significantly than you know, 41 00:01:52,714 --> 00:01:53,834 Speaker 1: a pre recorded one. 42 00:01:54,474 --> 00:01:55,674 Speaker 3: However, it was really interesting. 43 00:01:55,674 --> 00:01:58,594 Speaker 1: Tina Provos, who's obviously a friend of the show we're saying, 44 00:01:58,754 --> 00:02:03,154 Speaker 1: she posted on Instagram about how the removal of the 45 00:02:03,234 --> 00:02:06,794 Speaker 1: live makes her feel maybe more challenging for the contestants 46 00:02:06,834 --> 00:02:09,194 Speaker 1: because she felt like when she was in there she 47 00:02:09,274 --> 00:02:11,673 Speaker 1: had those live shows. It was like she had this 48 00:02:11,874 --> 00:02:15,314 Speaker 1: connection with them, she knew her family were watching, which 49 00:02:15,314 --> 00:02:15,914 Speaker 1: I actually. 50 00:02:15,674 --> 00:02:17,234 Speaker 3: Think is quite profound. 51 00:02:17,994 --> 00:02:18,913 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I. 52 00:02:18,834 --> 00:02:21,154 Speaker 3: Think it's interesting. It makes a lot of sense. 53 00:02:21,194 --> 00:02:24,194 Speaker 1: So basically what they've done now is they shot three 54 00:02:24,394 --> 00:02:28,834 Speaker 1: alternate endings for the series, so the final three shot 55 00:02:29,394 --> 00:02:32,634 Speaker 1: ending where they each won, the Australian public will still 56 00:02:32,674 --> 00:02:35,994 Speaker 1: get to choose and they'll just air the finale that 57 00:02:36,194 --> 00:02:39,554 Speaker 1: relates to got how many of them so poor? 58 00:02:39,914 --> 00:02:43,154 Speaker 2: Which is just a fairly common practice in the raality 59 00:02:43,194 --> 00:02:45,514 Speaker 2: TV world wherein now like it happens on shows like 60 00:02:45,554 --> 00:02:47,914 Speaker 2: with drag Race and stuff like that, at least the 61 00:02:47,954 --> 00:02:51,874 Speaker 2: Australian New Zealand version, where they'll film different ending so 62 00:02:51,914 --> 00:02:54,234 Speaker 2: you have it's like, okay, now pretend you want. I 63 00:02:54,354 --> 00:02:56,874 Speaker 2: have this huge celebration. Everyone's jumping up and down, and 64 00:02:56,874 --> 00:02:59,034 Speaker 2: now pretend you want. And often the winners don't know 65 00:02:59,154 --> 00:03:01,074 Speaker 2: until they're sitting on their couch with their family and 66 00:03:01,114 --> 00:03:03,953 Speaker 2: friends months and months and months later and they see 67 00:03:03,954 --> 00:03:08,034 Speaker 2: their pre recorded, acted out like version of them winning 68 00:03:08,074 --> 00:03:10,434 Speaker 2: on screen and they're like, oh, so I won while 69 00:03:10,474 --> 00:03:12,274 Speaker 2: I'm sitting here on the couch kind of thing. Yeah, 70 00:03:12,314 --> 00:03:14,714 Speaker 2: so I don't know, I understand like from a production 71 00:03:14,794 --> 00:03:16,474 Speaker 2: point of view while I do it. But like when 72 00:03:16,514 --> 00:03:18,633 Speaker 2: I was watching I'm a Celeb last night, I didn't 73 00:03:18,714 --> 00:03:21,794 Speaker 2: love it just because I think in previous years, especially 74 00:03:21,834 --> 00:03:24,394 Speaker 2: when they've like like dropping out of helicopters and stuff 75 00:03:24,434 --> 00:03:26,234 Speaker 2: like that, Like you're sitting at home watching it and 76 00:03:26,274 --> 00:03:28,394 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, this stuff is happening right 77 00:03:28,434 --> 00:03:30,834 Speaker 2: now that first time in camp, Like you're thinking, oh 78 00:03:30,834 --> 00:03:32,754 Speaker 2: my god, they're in that camp, they're getting into those 79 00:03:32,794 --> 00:03:35,474 Speaker 2: camp beds for the first time, they're realizing. You wake 80 00:03:35,554 --> 00:03:37,874 Speaker 2: up the next morning and you're like, what's happened overnight? 81 00:03:37,914 --> 00:03:40,034 Speaker 2: Like no one could have predicted because no one knows 82 00:03:40,034 --> 00:03:43,314 Speaker 2: it's live, Whereas now watching it, you're like, this happened 83 00:03:43,314 --> 00:03:45,274 Speaker 2: months ago. I was watching a lot of the different 84 00:03:45,274 --> 00:03:49,034 Speaker 2: contestants on social last night, filming themselves like really excitedly 85 00:03:49,114 --> 00:03:51,274 Speaker 2: understandably with their family and friends, sitting at home in 86 00:03:51,274 --> 00:03:52,554 Speaker 2: their couch and being like, oh my god, here's the 87 00:03:52,554 --> 00:03:54,954 Speaker 2: part where I come in or there's me, and like 88 00:03:55,274 --> 00:03:58,314 Speaker 2: it's still exciting, but it's lost the it's the danger element. 89 00:03:58,794 --> 00:04:01,234 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also that there is that connection when you're 90 00:04:01,234 --> 00:04:03,554 Speaker 1: watching it. It says ten am camp and it's like ten 91 00:04:03,594 --> 00:04:06,154 Speaker 1: pm here because obviously this time difference with South Africa. 92 00:04:06,234 --> 00:04:07,834 Speaker 3: But should we get into some of the celebs that. 93 00:04:07,874 --> 00:04:11,034 Speaker 1: Were on there. So obviously we always have a very 94 00:04:11,034 --> 00:04:15,634 Speaker 1: big international star every year they splurge the majority of 95 00:04:15,674 --> 00:04:19,593 Speaker 1: their talent budget on one particular stuff, and this year 96 00:04:20,154 --> 00:04:23,433 Speaker 1: we have Barry Williams. 97 00:04:22,993 --> 00:04:26,113 Speaker 2: Yes, which I have no complaints off because obviously he 98 00:04:26,154 --> 00:04:29,313 Speaker 2: played Greg on Brady Bunch, the eldest brother and the 99 00:04:29,354 --> 00:04:32,713 Speaker 2: first heart throb for many people watching that series on 100 00:04:32,834 --> 00:04:36,073 Speaker 2: TV decades and decades ago. But also the actress who 101 00:04:36,113 --> 00:04:39,113 Speaker 2: played Marshall, who was like the girl equivalent of him 102 00:04:39,154 --> 00:04:41,273 Speaker 2: on the show. She was on I'm a Celeb many 103 00:04:41,313 --> 00:04:43,593 Speaker 2: years ago and she sees it break It was the 104 00:04:43,633 --> 00:04:47,513 Speaker 2: first season all the way back there, and people loved her. 105 00:04:47,553 --> 00:04:49,593 Speaker 2: She was like quite the breakout star because she was 106 00:04:49,633 --> 00:04:51,473 Speaker 2: just so crazy. So I feel like they're trying to 107 00:04:51,474 --> 00:04:53,113 Speaker 2: maybe going for that again, I know. 108 00:04:53,234 --> 00:04:55,513 Speaker 3: But it's interesting that they did like another. 109 00:04:55,594 --> 00:04:57,873 Speaker 2: Brady Bunch Brady Bunch, like go through the list of 110 00:04:58,073 --> 00:04:58,474 Speaker 2: could have. 111 00:04:58,474 --> 00:05:02,553 Speaker 1: On you know, family Ties or Cheers or yeah, you know, 112 00:05:02,753 --> 00:05:05,794 Speaker 1: use do some other like vintage sitcom. 113 00:05:05,914 --> 00:05:08,313 Speaker 3: So Bary Williams, he seems like Rachel Hunter. 114 00:05:08,873 --> 00:05:09,833 Speaker 2: Oh, I loved that. 115 00:05:10,234 --> 00:05:12,354 Speaker 3: I do love Rachel Hunter. 116 00:05:12,393 --> 00:05:14,393 Speaker 1: I think she's like obviously one of the most stunning 117 00:05:14,433 --> 00:05:17,473 Speaker 1: people in the world, and it was interesting last night 118 00:05:17,553 --> 00:05:19,193 Speaker 1: then telling her story, which she's like, oh, yes, my 119 00:05:19,234 --> 00:05:21,634 Speaker 1: first husband, Rod was in Rod Stewart. 120 00:05:21,714 --> 00:05:23,194 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's always those weird. 121 00:05:23,553 --> 00:05:24,873 Speaker 1: I think it would be strange for some of the 122 00:05:24,873 --> 00:05:28,234 Speaker 1: celebrities to Ana's high profile to hear that said in 123 00:05:28,313 --> 00:05:30,113 Speaker 1: such a like flippant way. 124 00:05:30,594 --> 00:05:32,073 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where like the shot go. 125 00:05:32,193 --> 00:05:33,953 Speaker 2: Oh, that woman has stories to tell. That's why I 126 00:05:33,993 --> 00:05:36,074 Speaker 2: was excited to see her, because it's fun to see 127 00:05:36,113 --> 00:05:38,393 Speaker 2: her back in the spotlight. But also it's like she 128 00:05:38,594 --> 00:05:41,993 Speaker 2: has seen some stuff from inside, like the deep, deep 129 00:05:42,073 --> 00:05:45,754 Speaker 2: kind of inner workings of like Hollywood and superstardom at 130 00:05:45,794 --> 00:05:49,273 Speaker 2: a time when there was no like phones taking photos, 131 00:05:49,274 --> 00:05:52,153 Speaker 2: everything being recorded, everything being like dissected on TikTok. So 132 00:05:52,234 --> 00:05:53,994 Speaker 2: I feel like she's going to share some stories from 133 00:05:53,993 --> 00:05:56,113 Speaker 2: the vault, and already she was like telling like these 134 00:05:56,154 --> 00:05:58,313 Speaker 2: amazing stories of how she was discovered in her early 135 00:05:58,354 --> 00:06:00,433 Speaker 2: days modeling and stuff. So I don't even need her 136 00:06:00,433 --> 00:06:02,474 Speaker 2: to cause drama. I could just sit and watch her 137 00:06:02,834 --> 00:06:04,193 Speaker 2: tell stories on that show. 138 00:06:04,354 --> 00:06:06,074 Speaker 3: Then we have a little nepo baby. 139 00:06:06,154 --> 00:06:08,833 Speaker 2: We have Mia for Oh yeah, she's there for the kids. 140 00:06:08,953 --> 00:06:10,794 Speaker 3: She's there for the kids, our little gen Za. 141 00:06:11,633 --> 00:06:15,193 Speaker 1: And Gary Sweet, who is at the other end of 142 00:06:15,234 --> 00:06:15,914 Speaker 1: the spectrup. 143 00:06:16,034 --> 00:06:17,914 Speaker 2: I was quite surprised he was the one I was 144 00:06:17,953 --> 00:06:20,073 Speaker 2: surprised to see. I was like, Gary Sweet. 145 00:06:20,354 --> 00:06:22,034 Speaker 1: Okay, for those who don't know who Gary Sweet is, 146 00:06:22,034 --> 00:06:23,954 Speaker 1: do you want to give us a quick like what is. 147 00:06:23,993 --> 00:06:27,713 Speaker 2: He was like every drama right, yeah, see like nineties 148 00:06:27,914 --> 00:06:30,474 Speaker 2: going into early two thousands, but a very dramatic actor. 149 00:06:30,714 --> 00:06:30,874 Speaker 3: Yes. 150 00:06:30,953 --> 00:06:33,474 Speaker 1: So I was talking to some of the ladies in 151 00:06:33,513 --> 00:06:37,674 Speaker 1: the office and they said that Gary Sweet was the 152 00:06:37,914 --> 00:06:38,634 Speaker 1: heart throb of. 153 00:06:38,594 --> 00:06:39,914 Speaker 3: The nineties, like the. 154 00:06:40,354 --> 00:06:42,433 Speaker 2: I missed that because I remember watching him as a kid. 155 00:06:42,474 --> 00:06:45,953 Speaker 1: But yes, we're like the old slightly older. Yeah, but 156 00:06:45,993 --> 00:06:48,154 Speaker 1: he was like, you know, the Tom. 157 00:06:48,034 --> 00:06:51,234 Speaker 3: Selleck of Australia, you know, just very very hot. 158 00:06:51,433 --> 00:06:53,194 Speaker 2: Yeah. I always just thought that maybe he was too 159 00:06:53,274 --> 00:06:55,553 Speaker 2: much of like, I'm a serious actor to do this, 160 00:06:55,873 --> 00:06:58,913 Speaker 2: but look, I mean, you know, you try something new. Plus, 161 00:06:59,034 --> 00:07:01,513 Speaker 2: they all get a massive paycheck, which is the other 162 00:07:01,553 --> 00:07:03,633 Speaker 2: thing for being on the show. Along with raising money 163 00:07:03,633 --> 00:07:05,753 Speaker 2: on their charities, they also get paid quite a bit. 164 00:07:05,873 --> 00:07:08,394 Speaker 2: So I just kind of like the. 165 00:07:08,354 --> 00:07:10,434 Speaker 1: One where they're like being buried alive and drowning in 166 00:07:10,474 --> 00:07:11,273 Speaker 1: that that made. 167 00:07:11,154 --> 00:07:14,234 Speaker 3: Me feel so physically ill just watching that. I just can't. 168 00:07:14,234 --> 00:07:15,393 Speaker 3: I know, there's safety precautions. 169 00:07:15,393 --> 00:07:17,554 Speaker 2: Out of all the celebrition shows like put me on 170 00:07:17,594 --> 00:07:19,634 Speaker 2: My Brother, put me on Dancing the Stars, don't put 171 00:07:19,634 --> 00:07:21,274 Speaker 2: me on this show. I don't want to touch anything, 172 00:07:21,393 --> 00:07:21,914 Speaker 2: see anything. 173 00:07:21,994 --> 00:07:25,194 Speaker 1: So also sharing a like camp, not having any privacy. 174 00:07:25,354 --> 00:07:26,514 Speaker 1: I need some alone time. 175 00:07:26,634 --> 00:07:29,033 Speaker 2: I would love the adventure aspect of it, but the 176 00:07:29,074 --> 00:07:31,153 Speaker 2: thing is like with adventuring, after like a week or so, 177 00:07:31,234 --> 00:07:33,314 Speaker 2: I need to go to a hotel room and like reset. 178 00:07:33,474 --> 00:07:34,354 Speaker 3: So Lampin can. 179 00:07:35,354 --> 00:07:38,634 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they have rats crawler over in that camp. 180 00:07:38,714 --> 00:07:40,434 Speaker 2: That's what I would do the challenges. I kind of 181 00:07:40,434 --> 00:07:41,514 Speaker 2: have a rat crawl over me and. 182 00:07:41,434 --> 00:07:42,114 Speaker 3: I know yuck. 183 00:07:42,194 --> 00:07:46,194 Speaker 1: Anyway, So we've also got Luke Bateman from BookTok Fame. 184 00:07:46,354 --> 00:07:48,994 Speaker 2: That was so clever of them, Like, I think they've 185 00:07:49,034 --> 00:07:50,713 Speaker 2: done a good job of kind of the casting of 186 00:07:50,754 --> 00:07:53,234 Speaker 2: getting like the Rachel Hunters and the Gary Sweets for 187 00:07:53,314 --> 00:07:56,034 Speaker 2: people on like one end of the age spectrum and 188 00:07:56,074 --> 00:07:58,514 Speaker 2: getting me out who's like got a big fan base 189 00:07:58,554 --> 00:08:01,674 Speaker 2: as like an online creator. But also Luke, because everyone's 190 00:08:01,714 --> 00:08:04,154 Speaker 2: in love with him, the booktalker. I know. Also there's 191 00:08:04,194 --> 00:08:05,754 Speaker 2: been some I think when you got a book deal, 192 00:08:05,794 --> 00:08:08,473 Speaker 2: there was that whole backlash against him, and some people 193 00:08:08,514 --> 00:08:10,994 Speaker 2: don't like him, but the bigger group of people I 194 00:08:10,994 --> 00:08:13,354 Speaker 2: think are obsessed, are in love with him, and I 195 00:08:13,393 --> 00:08:15,393 Speaker 2: think they'll be the ones who might vote him through 196 00:08:15,434 --> 00:08:17,474 Speaker 2: to the end when that public voting opens. 197 00:08:17,514 --> 00:08:19,594 Speaker 1: So it's interesting that when he walked into the camp 198 00:08:19,594 --> 00:08:21,914 Speaker 1: and they were all trying to start the fire, and 199 00:08:21,953 --> 00:08:22,594 Speaker 1: he's the one that. 200 00:08:22,594 --> 00:08:24,594 Speaker 3: Was like, oh, start this fire. Yeah, that was hot, 201 00:08:25,034 --> 00:08:26,714 Speaker 3: and he did it. He like struck it and he's 202 00:08:26,834 --> 00:08:28,834 Speaker 3: the first one. But it was kind of one of 203 00:08:28,874 --> 00:08:31,033 Speaker 3: those things where it's like, okay, little girls, let me 204 00:08:31,154 --> 00:08:33,274 Speaker 3: do the fire. That's how I felt when I saw her. 205 00:08:33,554 --> 00:08:35,473 Speaker 2: I was a bit divisive, but again I think I 206 00:08:35,514 --> 00:08:37,593 Speaker 2: think his fandom might kind of vote him through or 207 00:08:37,594 --> 00:08:39,754 Speaker 2: they'll be watching yes, which is like a good way 208 00:08:39,754 --> 00:08:41,434 Speaker 2: to get that audience in Okay, we've. 209 00:08:41,234 --> 00:08:42,594 Speaker 3: Also got Concerto Cristo. 210 00:08:42,914 --> 00:08:45,154 Speaker 2: I was really excited for her. I love her like 211 00:08:45,194 --> 00:08:47,554 Speaker 2: work on radio, I love her interviews, her junkerts, like 212 00:08:47,554 --> 00:08:50,234 Speaker 2: her Amy Pollit interview is like very iconic, So I 213 00:08:50,234 --> 00:08:52,474 Speaker 2: feel like she's going to add a lot of entertainment 214 00:08:52,514 --> 00:08:53,754 Speaker 2: and like lightness to the show. 215 00:08:53,954 --> 00:08:56,394 Speaker 1: She's got a nice amount of energy, like I quite 216 00:08:56,674 --> 00:09:00,314 Speaker 1: liked her sort of really bubbly, super like over the top, 217 00:09:00,554 --> 00:09:03,754 Speaker 1: you know, stumbling through the jung lito heels like I like. 218 00:09:03,754 --> 00:09:06,234 Speaker 2: This, yeah, in a little red dress, stumbling through me 219 00:09:06,274 --> 00:09:08,114 Speaker 2: if I wanted the jungle stumbling through. 220 00:09:08,274 --> 00:09:10,074 Speaker 3: And then we've of course got Danny Hunt. 221 00:09:10,474 --> 00:09:13,514 Speaker 2: Danny Hunes is very reliable on an Australian reality TV show, 222 00:09:13,594 --> 00:09:15,314 Speaker 2: Like she's done the circuits over the years, She's done 223 00:09:15,314 --> 00:09:17,394 Speaker 2: a lot of different reality TV Like she's kind of 224 00:09:17,394 --> 00:09:18,954 Speaker 2: the person you call and is like we need someone 225 00:09:18,954 --> 00:09:21,114 Speaker 2: who's gonna like deliver it in the camera. And I 226 00:09:21,114 --> 00:09:22,794 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people know her because she's 227 00:09:22,794 --> 00:09:23,834 Speaker 2: been on TV so much. 228 00:09:23,954 --> 00:09:26,354 Speaker 3: Okay, so the one that did kind of usually the 229 00:09:26,354 --> 00:09:29,114 Speaker 3: ones that flow me, like the AFL or football star. 230 00:09:29,314 --> 00:09:30,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, there's no idea. 231 00:09:30,674 --> 00:09:32,874 Speaker 3: So I think it's Dice and Hepple. 232 00:09:33,394 --> 00:09:34,114 Speaker 2: I don't know that, man. 233 00:09:34,274 --> 00:09:35,674 Speaker 3: I think he's an AFL player. 234 00:09:36,234 --> 00:09:38,354 Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's the thing is like I know 235 00:09:38,394 --> 00:09:41,234 Speaker 2: that we're not the mainstream, Like I'm sure, heaps of people. 236 00:09:41,514 --> 00:09:43,234 Speaker 2: I'm sure they can't know then. 237 00:09:43,394 --> 00:09:47,714 Speaker 1: And also Rebecca el Maloglu is also an ex homed. 238 00:09:47,474 --> 00:09:50,274 Speaker 2: Away style yeah, and neighbors. I think she's like like 239 00:09:50,274 --> 00:09:52,154 Speaker 2: they called her soap opera royalty, I think, and I 240 00:09:52,154 --> 00:09:52,954 Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that's fair. 241 00:09:53,114 --> 00:09:54,794 Speaker 1: I have to admit Rebecca was the one that kind 242 00:09:54,834 --> 00:09:57,034 Speaker 1: of flew over my head because I was never really 243 00:09:57,034 --> 00:09:58,634 Speaker 1: into like the Aussie soap. 244 00:09:58,674 --> 00:10:01,514 Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, she has been them a lot and 245 00:10:01,674 --> 00:10:03,634 Speaker 2: kind of like long running characters and stuff. So I 246 00:10:03,674 --> 00:10:06,554 Speaker 2: think again, it's like big fan base, different fan bases 247 00:10:06,594 --> 00:10:07,354 Speaker 2: they're drawing, so. 248 00:10:07,314 --> 00:10:08,714 Speaker 3: We've got some good ones in there. 249 00:10:08,754 --> 00:10:12,034 Speaker 1: I think it'll be a really nice like mix between people. 250 00:10:12,074 --> 00:10:15,554 Speaker 1: A couple of comedians, nath Valvo and Concerta are friends, 251 00:10:15,594 --> 00:10:18,234 Speaker 1: so there's that kind of you know, stand up comedian thing. 252 00:10:18,474 --> 00:10:20,634 Speaker 3: Stand up comedians always add like a bit of levity. 253 00:10:20,714 --> 00:10:21,914 Speaker 2: You need a few in the mix. 254 00:10:21,994 --> 00:10:22,154 Speaker 3: Yeah. 255 00:10:22,194 --> 00:10:23,914 Speaker 1: Do you know what they don't have this year? They 256 00:10:23,914 --> 00:10:27,034 Speaker 1: don't have an ex Master chef or a chef contestant. 257 00:10:27,194 --> 00:10:28,154 Speaker 3: Which we'll got. 258 00:10:28,834 --> 00:10:30,314 Speaker 2: We've still got a few more coming in this week's 259 00:10:30,314 --> 00:10:30,994 Speaker 2: Maybe they'll fly. 260 00:10:31,194 --> 00:10:33,794 Speaker 1: I feel like that's a really essential person to have 261 00:10:33,874 --> 00:10:35,953 Speaker 1: a camp like you always want to have a chef. 262 00:10:35,794 --> 00:10:37,634 Speaker 2: To turn the rice and beans into something. 263 00:10:37,594 --> 00:10:40,754 Speaker 1: To be able to actually give yourself something, you know. Yeah, 264 00:10:40,794 --> 00:10:44,593 Speaker 1: that would be my biggest My question here is where. 265 00:10:44,394 --> 00:10:46,314 Speaker 2: Is the chef they might be coming in this week 266 00:10:46,354 --> 00:10:48,474 Speaker 2: hopefully for them Nana. 267 00:10:49,194 --> 00:10:52,354 Speaker 1: So, Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman have obviously finalized their 268 00:10:52,394 --> 00:10:55,034 Speaker 1: divorce and there's been a few rumors floating around that 269 00:10:55,194 --> 00:10:58,394 Speaker 1: Keith Urban has found a new flame and it's kind 270 00:10:58,394 --> 00:11:01,034 Speaker 1: of hated up again this week. And her name is 271 00:11:01,114 --> 00:11:05,194 Speaker 1: Carlie Scott Collins and she is a also a country singer, 272 00:11:05,394 --> 00:11:10,194 Speaker 1: but she's twenty six, which is where people starting to question. Now, 273 00:11:10,354 --> 00:11:12,634 Speaker 1: we don't know this for sure, no one's confirmed it. 274 00:11:12,634 --> 00:11:16,794 Speaker 1: It's just still lots of little twitterings and questions about 275 00:11:16,834 --> 00:11:20,234 Speaker 1: this new potential flame. There were also rumors that he 276 00:11:20,274 --> 00:11:23,154 Speaker 1: potentially moved in with her, because obviously he's not in 277 00:11:23,194 --> 00:11:26,754 Speaker 1: the family home anymore. But it's really interesting to see 278 00:11:26,754 --> 00:11:31,994 Speaker 1: the reaction, the public reaction to Keith and this potential 279 00:11:32,074 --> 00:11:32,554 Speaker 1: new flame. 280 00:11:32,674 --> 00:11:32,994 Speaker 3: Carly. 281 00:11:33,434 --> 00:11:35,434 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got to say I do feel for her, 282 00:11:35,474 --> 00:11:38,874 Speaker 2: whether it's true or not, just because now that people 283 00:11:38,954 --> 00:11:41,754 Speaker 2: have her name and everyone's digging into like her life, 284 00:11:41,834 --> 00:11:44,114 Speaker 2: and she's you know, she's going to start being followed 285 00:11:44,154 --> 00:11:46,953 Speaker 2: to events by paparazzi and stuff like whether it's true 286 00:11:47,034 --> 00:11:49,114 Speaker 2: or not. Her life's been about to be blown up 287 00:11:49,394 --> 00:11:51,914 Speaker 2: in a really intense way. And we do know, especially 288 00:11:51,914 --> 00:11:54,074 Speaker 2: because there's so much love for Nicole Kim and there's 289 00:11:54,114 --> 00:11:56,354 Speaker 2: always like a bit of weird hatred for like the 290 00:11:56,394 --> 00:11:59,234 Speaker 2: younger woman who comes into a situation that a lot 291 00:11:59,234 --> 00:12:02,274 Speaker 2: of times people's like anger is unfairly targeted them. And 292 00:12:02,314 --> 00:12:04,594 Speaker 2: I can sort of feel that already happening. I can 293 00:12:04,634 --> 00:12:06,074 Speaker 2: feel it on the comments and things. 294 00:12:06,114 --> 00:12:08,354 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I I felt it innately in 295 00:12:08,434 --> 00:12:10,394 Speaker 1: me before I even realized it, Like I was like, 296 00:12:10,434 --> 00:12:12,874 Speaker 1: why do I all of a sudden really hate this girl? 297 00:12:12,954 --> 00:12:15,034 Speaker 3: And I don't even know who she is. She's probably a. 298 00:12:14,954 --> 00:12:17,794 Speaker 1: Really lovely girl, but it's like we've kind of been 299 00:12:18,434 --> 00:12:21,034 Speaker 1: not conditioned. But it's that sort of you want to 300 00:12:21,034 --> 00:12:24,754 Speaker 1: defend Nicole because everybody loves Nicole Kidman, but yeah, she's 301 00:12:24,874 --> 00:12:28,994 Speaker 1: she basically Back in December twenty twenty four, she was 302 00:12:29,514 --> 00:12:32,154 Speaker 1: part of the Hina Live tour with Keith Urbans, so 303 00:12:32,194 --> 00:12:34,874 Speaker 1: she toured with him. So they've known each other for 304 00:12:34,874 --> 00:12:37,434 Speaker 1: a while at the sort of start of last year, 305 00:12:37,674 --> 00:12:38,754 Speaker 1: she's started. 306 00:12:38,394 --> 00:12:41,154 Speaker 3: Touring with him. She posts about him on Instagram. 307 00:12:41,514 --> 00:12:44,554 Speaker 1: She's also just released an album called Flight Risk, so 308 00:12:44,594 --> 00:12:46,874 Speaker 1: that's out at the moment. But yeah, you're right, she's 309 00:12:46,914 --> 00:12:48,994 Speaker 1: going to be getting all of this attention on her. 310 00:12:49,354 --> 00:12:52,994 Speaker 1: But it is interesting also to see these different divorce playbooks. 311 00:12:53,354 --> 00:12:55,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was when I was sort of like, once 312 00:12:55,114 --> 00:12:57,154 Speaker 2: the divorce has been finalized, which we know, like all 313 00:12:57,194 --> 00:12:59,154 Speaker 2: the papers have gone through court down and they both 314 00:12:59,354 --> 00:13:01,274 Speaker 2: it looks like Nickkeith and Cole had a lot of 315 00:13:01,354 --> 00:13:04,314 Speaker 2: kind of mediation, at least their lawyers did before anything 316 00:13:04,394 --> 00:13:06,554 Speaker 2: was made public, because it looks like they've already split 317 00:13:06,594 --> 00:13:08,954 Speaker 2: all of their ass sets down the line before the 318 00:13:08,994 --> 00:13:12,234 Speaker 2: divorce documents went through court were finalised. So it's all finalized. 319 00:13:12,234 --> 00:13:14,953 Speaker 2: Now they're officially divorced, their custody arrangement with their two 320 00:13:15,034 --> 00:13:17,394 Speaker 2: daughters is in place, all their assets have been divided, 321 00:13:17,794 --> 00:13:19,874 Speaker 2: and in the lead up to that's kind of interesting 322 00:13:19,914 --> 00:13:21,954 Speaker 2: when I was looking at like the two different ways 323 00:13:22,194 --> 00:13:25,434 Speaker 2: that they've presented themselves in the public eye. Because even 324 00:13:25,434 --> 00:13:28,114 Speaker 2: if you don't sort of set out to make a 325 00:13:28,194 --> 00:13:29,914 Speaker 2: stand of how you're going to look to the public 326 00:13:29,954 --> 00:13:32,434 Speaker 2: post divorce, especially a big divorce like this where it's 327 00:13:32,474 --> 00:13:34,874 Speaker 2: been like an over a decade long relationship and they're 328 00:13:34,914 --> 00:13:37,594 Speaker 2: both super famous. Even deciding not to do something is 329 00:13:37,594 --> 00:13:39,874 Speaker 2: still a choice of how you want the public to see. 330 00:13:40,114 --> 00:13:42,074 Speaker 2: So we've had Nicoll, on one hand, a lot of 331 00:13:42,074 --> 00:13:44,474 Speaker 2: people saying that she's won the divorce from the start, 332 00:13:44,554 --> 00:13:47,194 Speaker 2: because after the news was announced, she was like at 333 00:13:47,314 --> 00:13:50,154 Speaker 2: you know, couture fashion shows, and she was at events 334 00:13:50,234 --> 00:13:53,834 Speaker 2: and looking absolutely stunning. She had like the divorce bangs 335 00:13:53,874 --> 00:13:56,954 Speaker 2: cut and then recently being seen in Australia again not 336 00:13:57,034 --> 00:13:59,314 Speaker 2: at a public events, but like being seen out and 337 00:13:59,314 --> 00:14:02,554 Speaker 2: about in Australia just again looking really carefree and gorgeous, 338 00:14:02,834 --> 00:14:05,914 Speaker 2: always with her daughters. We know that she's got like 339 00:14:05,994 --> 00:14:08,634 Speaker 2: a big year of film and work ahead of her, 340 00:14:08,714 --> 00:14:12,514 Speaker 2: and so she's kind of been like that whole idea 341 00:14:12,594 --> 00:14:16,754 Speaker 2: of like revenge dressing, like after a divorce dress, you know, 342 00:14:16,754 --> 00:14:18,794 Speaker 2: not the cheat. The thing is she always looks stunning, 343 00:14:19,034 --> 00:14:21,634 Speaker 2: but it's kind of this more like at work events 344 00:14:21,674 --> 00:14:24,194 Speaker 2: she's looking really chic and sharp in a way she 345 00:14:24,234 --> 00:14:27,554 Speaker 2: hasn't before, and then in her personal life looking like 346 00:14:27,634 --> 00:14:30,394 Speaker 2: kind of like so carefree and happy, and so there's 347 00:14:30,434 --> 00:14:32,834 Speaker 2: this idea of like she's just working, looking after her 348 00:14:32,954 --> 00:14:35,234 Speaker 2: kids and looking amazing. And on the other side of that, 349 00:14:35,234 --> 00:14:37,874 Speaker 2: we have Keith Urban, who we haven't really heard a 350 00:14:37,874 --> 00:14:41,114 Speaker 2: lot from since the whole divorce. Like he's obviously he's 351 00:14:41,154 --> 00:14:43,954 Speaker 2: touring and playing shows and he sometimes speaks to the audience, 352 00:14:43,994 --> 00:14:46,434 Speaker 2: but he's kind of just like looks like he's almost 353 00:14:46,434 --> 00:14:48,994 Speaker 2: trying to keep a low profile. And now if like 354 00:14:49,034 --> 00:14:51,274 Speaker 2: all the tabloids are to be believed, he's hooked up 355 00:14:51,274 --> 00:14:54,674 Speaker 2: with this much younger star, they're shacking up together. It's 356 00:14:54,834 --> 00:14:56,394 Speaker 2: just and he's kind of like, I think his thing 357 00:14:56,474 --> 00:14:58,554 Speaker 2: is like kind of lay low and lay out of 358 00:14:58,554 --> 00:15:01,034 Speaker 2: the spotlight and keep working. But that's not going to 359 00:15:01,114 --> 00:15:04,474 Speaker 2: work because of this whole tabloid story that's blown up. 360 00:15:04,594 --> 00:15:06,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of get the vibe of like what 361 00:15:06,754 --> 00:15:11,714 Speaker 1: Nicole saying is I'm flourishing, I'm fine, I'm doing great, 362 00:15:11,794 --> 00:15:14,234 Speaker 1: I don't need a man, you know. It really gives 363 00:15:14,274 --> 00:15:17,434 Speaker 1: off that kind of energy. And then Keith, it's like, 364 00:15:18,114 --> 00:15:20,434 Speaker 1: look at this dear girl I'm dating. I still got her. 365 00:15:20,514 --> 00:15:23,194 Speaker 1: Look I'm good, I'm good, I'm still handsome, I still 366 00:15:23,194 --> 00:15:25,914 Speaker 1: can like offer something, and it kind of had me 367 00:15:25,994 --> 00:15:29,434 Speaker 1: thinking about the way that we see divorce and see, 368 00:15:29,554 --> 00:15:32,754 Speaker 1: you know, separation of men and women in the last 369 00:15:32,754 --> 00:15:35,914 Speaker 1: fifteen twenty years has really shifted, because if you think 370 00:15:35,914 --> 00:15:40,154 Speaker 1: about the way that women were portrayed during these divorces, 371 00:15:40,154 --> 00:15:43,794 Speaker 1: it was like she's too old. Now she's lost her currency, 372 00:15:43,914 --> 00:15:46,434 Speaker 1: her youth and her beauty and all of that that's gone, 373 00:15:46,714 --> 00:15:47,794 Speaker 1: Like she's divorced. 374 00:15:47,794 --> 00:15:48,474 Speaker 3: What she gonna do? 375 00:15:48,954 --> 00:15:51,914 Speaker 1: But then now you see that has really shift and 376 00:15:51,914 --> 00:15:53,874 Speaker 1: the man, oh you can go to another younger woman. 377 00:15:54,074 --> 00:15:56,634 Speaker 1: Men are aging, They just get better with age. Women 378 00:15:56,754 --> 00:15:57,674 Speaker 1: lose their beauty. 379 00:15:57,714 --> 00:15:58,274 Speaker 3: All of that. 380 00:15:58,274 --> 00:16:00,754 Speaker 1: That kind of that dialogue I feel like has really 381 00:16:00,754 --> 00:16:02,754 Speaker 1: shifted in the last like ten years. 382 00:16:03,514 --> 00:16:04,554 Speaker 3: You're looking now at. 383 00:16:04,714 --> 00:16:07,634 Speaker 1: It's kind of flipped. It's like this woman, I don't 384 00:16:07,674 --> 00:16:09,354 Speaker 1: need a man. I've got my own job, I make 385 00:16:09,354 --> 00:16:12,914 Speaker 1: my own money, I'm beautiful, I've got my children. 386 00:16:12,594 --> 00:16:13,674 Speaker 3: I am flourishing. 387 00:16:13,834 --> 00:16:16,074 Speaker 1: And then it's that, you know, the man, it's it's 388 00:16:16,234 --> 00:16:19,194 Speaker 1: almost looked on a little bit more, not as oh, 389 00:16:19,234 --> 00:16:20,914 Speaker 1: good on you, mate, you can still get a twenty 390 00:16:20,914 --> 00:16:21,594 Speaker 1: six year old. 391 00:16:21,754 --> 00:16:23,394 Speaker 3: It's that's a bit sad. 392 00:16:23,794 --> 00:16:24,594 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what I mean? 393 00:16:24,634 --> 00:16:26,514 Speaker 1: I really feel like there has been that shaft and 394 00:16:26,554 --> 00:16:28,514 Speaker 1: maybe it's like a bit of third wave feminism and 395 00:16:28,634 --> 00:16:31,394 Speaker 1: me too and all of this, but it just the 396 00:16:31,514 --> 00:16:36,154 Speaker 1: way that that reception from the public has really changed. 397 00:16:36,474 --> 00:16:39,274 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be interesting sort of if this is true, 398 00:16:39,314 --> 00:16:41,394 Speaker 2: because again we have no idea of knowing, and he's 399 00:16:41,394 --> 00:16:42,834 Speaker 2: not the kind of person who's going to like post 400 00:16:42,874 --> 00:16:45,114 Speaker 2: a statement and confirm or deny or anything like that. 401 00:16:45,514 --> 00:16:47,154 Speaker 2: But I guess like the first time we would know 402 00:16:47,274 --> 00:16:50,274 Speaker 2: is there's like really incriminating paparazzi shots of it. But 403 00:16:50,314 --> 00:16:51,874 Speaker 2: even if they're like they're in the same circle and 404 00:16:51,874 --> 00:16:54,114 Speaker 2: they're going on tour together and things like that, it's 405 00:16:54,114 --> 00:16:56,034 Speaker 2: even hard to know if like a paparazzi shot of 406 00:16:56,034 --> 00:16:58,554 Speaker 2: them going into a hotel or a restaurant or a 407 00:16:58,594 --> 00:17:01,874 Speaker 2: house even is like a confirmation that they're deity. I 408 00:17:01,874 --> 00:17:03,754 Speaker 2: guess it will kind of come down to, like if 409 00:17:04,033 --> 00:17:06,634 Speaker 2: we get footage of them like a kissing backstage or 410 00:17:06,674 --> 00:17:08,674 Speaker 2: a concert or something like that, or if they do 411 00:17:08,714 --> 00:17:12,033 Speaker 2: a red carpet together, which seems unlikely. But you know, 412 00:17:12,194 --> 00:17:15,313 Speaker 2: sometimes like after male stars of you know, have like 413 00:17:15,354 --> 00:17:18,954 Speaker 2: a younger girlfriend or like even just any age girlfriend, 414 00:17:19,194 --> 00:17:21,354 Speaker 2: they'll sort of wait a little bit and then sort 415 00:17:21,394 --> 00:17:24,314 Speaker 2: of do like a full roll out of their relationship 416 00:17:24,394 --> 00:17:26,634 Speaker 2: in a way that paints them in a very kind 417 00:17:26,674 --> 00:17:28,914 Speaker 2: of happy light. And I guess like we think of 418 00:17:28,994 --> 00:17:33,553 Speaker 2: a yeah, I know, I know they have really become 419 00:17:33,594 --> 00:17:36,274 Speaker 2: the blueprint just because they did that in like such 420 00:17:36,314 --> 00:17:38,914 Speaker 2: a like they were they were barely hiding the fact 421 00:17:38,914 --> 00:17:41,114 Speaker 2: it was all set up. But it worked in such 422 00:17:41,114 --> 00:17:43,994 Speaker 2: a good way in terms of sort of distracting from 423 00:17:44,034 --> 00:17:47,034 Speaker 2: this narrative of them cheating on their spouses for such 424 00:17:47,074 --> 00:17:49,553 Speaker 2: a long time, because we obviously had the set up 425 00:17:49,634 --> 00:17:52,074 Speaker 2: paparazzi photos of them, and I know they would never 426 00:17:52,114 --> 00:17:55,314 Speaker 2: say they were set up, but like People Magazine photographer 427 00:17:55,474 --> 00:17:57,674 Speaker 2: was the only one there on the scene ready to go. 428 00:17:58,194 --> 00:18:00,634 Speaker 2: They've both given exclusives to People mag in the past, 429 00:18:00,634 --> 00:18:03,474 Speaker 2: so they have a relationship. There they're walking down the street, 430 00:18:03,474 --> 00:18:06,114 Speaker 2: they look so unbothered in a way that no celebrity 431 00:18:06,154 --> 00:18:09,994 Speaker 2: couple would like getting their photo taken if they if 432 00:18:09,994 --> 00:18:12,594 Speaker 2: they didn't know that the photographer was going to be 433 00:18:12,674 --> 00:18:15,594 Speaker 2: there and smiling, and the angles are perfect, and she's 434 00:18:15,674 --> 00:18:18,033 Speaker 2: dressed beautifully in their hair's done, which is such a 435 00:18:18,034 --> 00:18:20,674 Speaker 2: stark contrast to the paparazzi photos that were taken like 436 00:18:20,714 --> 00:18:24,114 Speaker 2: a few days later in an underground car park where 437 00:18:24,274 --> 00:18:26,474 Speaker 2: you can just tell that someone's done a long lens story. 438 00:18:26,514 --> 00:18:29,394 Speaker 2: And they did that a few months before they did 439 00:18:29,434 --> 00:18:33,034 Speaker 2: an official red carpet walk together and photos together, which 440 00:18:33,034 --> 00:18:35,273 Speaker 2: has now really cemented them. And once you've done those 441 00:18:35,314 --> 00:18:37,154 Speaker 2: two things, it's kind of like ripping the band aid off. 442 00:18:37,154 --> 00:18:39,034 Speaker 2: Then you can be seen in public together all the time. 443 00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:40,434 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. 444 00:18:40,514 --> 00:18:43,394 Speaker 1: I would like for people not to put hate on 445 00:18:43,474 --> 00:18:46,034 Speaker 1: this girl, but yeah, I did have to check myself. 446 00:18:46,274 --> 00:18:48,914 Speaker 1: I was like, why am I feeling negative ways towards 447 00:18:48,954 --> 00:18:51,714 Speaker 1: his poor wealth. She's just a woman, and if she 448 00:18:51,914 --> 00:18:55,554 Speaker 1: is dating him, so be it. Like, like, literally, I 449 00:18:55,594 --> 00:18:56,434 Speaker 1: think the other thing. 450 00:18:56,514 --> 00:18:57,073 Speaker 3: It's a cliche. 451 00:18:57,274 --> 00:18:58,674 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a clique, and that's why I think 452 00:18:58,674 --> 00:19:01,194 Speaker 2: people are being a bit irolly. I just imagine like 453 00:19:01,194 --> 00:19:02,914 Speaker 2: if Keith if none this is true, which it might 454 00:19:02,954 --> 00:19:04,793 Speaker 2: not be, and Keith Urban's just sitting in him in 455 00:19:04,834 --> 00:19:08,793 Speaker 2: like an apartment somewhere that he's renting, completely solo, completely alone, 456 00:19:08,834 --> 00:19:10,994 Speaker 2: being like I've literally done nothing, and now I'm being 457 00:19:11,114 --> 00:19:14,274 Speaker 2: ripped to shreds for being this cliche of a creepy 458 00:19:14,314 --> 00:19:17,594 Speaker 2: older man dating a woman who's like young enough almost 459 00:19:17,634 --> 00:19:20,554 Speaker 2: to be my daughter, which is again the most cliched 460 00:19:20,554 --> 00:19:22,714 Speaker 2: thing that any man, any man of any age, but 461 00:19:22,914 --> 00:19:25,594 Speaker 2: especially in that age in fifties, can do. But the 462 00:19:25,594 --> 00:19:27,114 Speaker 2: thing is, we've seen it so many times, so I 463 00:19:27,154 --> 00:19:29,794 Speaker 2: think people like are leaning towards it. But also I 464 00:19:29,794 --> 00:19:31,954 Speaker 2: don't know betnefit of the doubt. It might just all 465 00:19:31,994 --> 00:19:32,634 Speaker 2: be a story. 466 00:19:32,834 --> 00:19:34,914 Speaker 1: I do wonder where he's living, because I was thinking 467 00:19:34,914 --> 00:19:37,033 Speaker 1: about this when I was looking at their property portfolio, 468 00:19:37,074 --> 00:19:38,714 Speaker 1: because they've got a hell of a property. 469 00:19:38,994 --> 00:19:41,114 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think any I don't think he's if 470 00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:42,513 Speaker 2: he has moved in with his girlfriend. I don't think 471 00:19:42,514 --> 00:19:45,274 Speaker 2: it's because he's homeless. No, I think he's all right. 472 00:19:45,634 --> 00:19:47,874 Speaker 1: I'm like, can you imagine being on that beautiful you 473 00:19:47,914 --> 00:19:51,594 Speaker 1: know that this like multi acre estate, and then he's 474 00:19:51,594 --> 00:19:53,994 Speaker 1: just moved out, like just knocked all his girlfriends? 475 00:19:54,034 --> 00:19:55,434 Speaker 3: Don't be like, can I you for. 476 00:19:55,394 --> 00:19:57,274 Speaker 2: A while, And she's like, oh, I lose a boyfriends here? 477 00:19:57,634 --> 00:19:59,474 Speaker 2: Tell him? How do I tell him to leave and get. 478 00:19:59,954 --> 00:20:00,714 Speaker 3: Get a job. 479 00:20:01,194 --> 00:20:04,434 Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's where we're at with Nicole and Kimmen 480 00:20:04,554 --> 00:20:07,634 Speaker 2: and Keith Urban's divorce again. I think I do think 481 00:20:07,674 --> 00:20:10,194 Speaker 2: that after a while, this kind of intense interest in 482 00:20:10,234 --> 00:20:12,154 Speaker 2: what they're doing will peter out a little bit. It's 483 00:20:12,154 --> 00:20:14,634 Speaker 2: just because it's all been finalized. Obviously, they'll always be 484 00:20:14,754 --> 00:20:18,554 Speaker 2: crazy interest in whoever they're dating and the dynamic between them. 485 00:20:18,794 --> 00:20:20,914 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just hope for this young girl safe 486 00:20:20,954 --> 00:20:23,434 Speaker 2: that people, no matter if she's dating him or not, 487 00:20:23,674 --> 00:20:25,954 Speaker 2: that they just kind of give her some space and 488 00:20:26,034 --> 00:20:27,513 Speaker 2: just take it to the group chat. Guys, if you 489 00:20:27,514 --> 00:20:29,874 Speaker 2: need to say something, just don't say it online. Nana. 490 00:20:30,994 --> 00:20:33,114 Speaker 2: So it was a very good weekend and week in 491 00:20:33,154 --> 00:20:36,834 Speaker 2: fact to be Sophie Turner because she had two big 492 00:20:36,914 --> 00:20:39,234 Speaker 2: kind of hits of career news come out. We had 493 00:20:39,274 --> 00:20:41,314 Speaker 2: the release of the first trailer for her new movie, 494 00:20:41,434 --> 00:20:43,353 Speaker 2: The Dreadful Where did you watch it? 495 00:20:43,674 --> 00:20:44,314 Speaker 3: I did watch it? 496 00:20:44,514 --> 00:20:46,194 Speaker 2: You don't like Gora Horror? Did you like it? No, 497 00:20:46,434 --> 00:20:47,593 Speaker 2: it's not the movie for you. 498 00:20:47,674 --> 00:20:50,074 Speaker 1: I didn't like it like this, I didn't like the 499 00:20:50,394 --> 00:20:52,474 Speaker 1: Have you watched it? 500 00:20:52,634 --> 00:20:53,553 Speaker 2: I love the trailer? 501 00:20:53,634 --> 00:20:56,114 Speaker 1: Yeah, the trailer. It looks great. Okay, it's like said 502 00:20:56,154 --> 00:20:59,754 Speaker 1: in old timey England. They're all tucked away Sophie Turner 503 00:20:59,794 --> 00:21:02,234 Speaker 1: And is it her mum or her aunt? 504 00:21:02,394 --> 00:21:05,154 Speaker 2: Her mother in law, so it's her mother in medieval England. 505 00:21:06,154 --> 00:21:08,874 Speaker 2: Her husband gets killed, she's living with her mother in 506 00:21:08,954 --> 00:21:12,354 Speaker 2: law and they're like surviving on the outskirts of society. 507 00:21:12,594 --> 00:21:15,194 Speaker 2: And then a man from Anne's pass, so Ann is 508 00:21:15,314 --> 00:21:18,674 Speaker 2: Sophie Turner's character, returns, which is Kit Harrington. They go 509 00:21:18,834 --> 00:21:21,474 Speaker 2: and they kind of start to fall in love at 510 00:21:21,554 --> 00:21:23,874 Speaker 2: least have some sexy times, but then a curse threatens 511 00:21:23,914 --> 00:21:26,994 Speaker 2: to destroy them all and it's very very bloodthirsty. And 512 00:21:27,714 --> 00:21:29,714 Speaker 2: this is either very exciting or very gross to people. 513 00:21:29,714 --> 00:21:33,114 Speaker 2: As obviously, Kit Harrington and Sophie Turner played siblings on 514 00:21:33,394 --> 00:21:35,793 Speaker 2: Game of Thrones and now they're having a lot of 515 00:21:35,794 --> 00:21:38,234 Speaker 2: sex scenes on screen. And the fun part of that 516 00:21:38,394 --> 00:21:40,274 Speaker 2: is that Sophie Turner is the one who first saw 517 00:21:40,314 --> 00:21:43,714 Speaker 2: the script for The Dreadful and was reading it was like, oh, 518 00:21:43,754 --> 00:21:45,914 Speaker 2: this is so incredible. I love this movie. I want 519 00:21:45,914 --> 00:21:47,994 Speaker 2: to play this character. And then she sent the script 520 00:21:47,994 --> 00:21:50,474 Speaker 2: to Kit and said we need to do this together. 521 00:21:50,474 --> 00:21:52,194 Speaker 2: This is amazing, and he's like, I'm soph don't you 522 00:21:52,234 --> 00:21:54,234 Speaker 2: think it's gonna be weird that we're having sex scenes? 523 00:21:54,274 --> 00:21:56,034 Speaker 2: And she I think she said, oh, I hadn't really 524 00:21:56,074 --> 00:21:58,273 Speaker 2: clocked that or hadn't really thought of it. She was 525 00:21:58,354 --> 00:21:59,874 Speaker 2: just like thinking of them acting together. 526 00:22:00,034 --> 00:22:02,634 Speaker 1: I have to say, watching it on screen, I got 527 00:22:02,674 --> 00:22:04,513 Speaker 1: the ick, did you It bothered me. 528 00:22:04,634 --> 00:22:05,474 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of hot. 529 00:22:05,594 --> 00:22:06,194 Speaker 3: It bothered me. 530 00:22:07,114 --> 00:22:08,674 Speaker 2: I did not pulled aside game of fine. 531 00:22:09,114 --> 00:22:11,954 Speaker 1: I think because it's been it was so many years 532 00:22:11,954 --> 00:22:14,954 Speaker 1: of watching Game of Thrones and seeing that relationship between 533 00:22:15,354 --> 00:22:17,513 Speaker 1: John Snow and Science and stuck like they out of 534 00:22:17,554 --> 00:22:20,794 Speaker 1: all of the siblings, that relationship was such a lovely one, 535 00:22:20,834 --> 00:22:22,194 Speaker 1: and obviously. 536 00:22:21,714 --> 00:22:23,994 Speaker 2: With because they had the big they were like in 537 00:22:24,034 --> 00:22:26,194 Speaker 2: the first season had a very disconnected and her character 538 00:22:26,234 --> 00:22:28,034 Speaker 2: didn't like him. But then one of my favorite Game 539 00:22:28,034 --> 00:22:30,434 Speaker 2: of Thrones moments is where they finally come together all 540 00:22:30,434 --> 00:22:32,434 Speaker 2: those years and they run to each other and the 541 00:22:32,474 --> 00:22:34,554 Speaker 2: Snow and she he like lifts her up in our eyes. 542 00:22:34,994 --> 00:22:36,554 Speaker 2: So like the rest of our family be dead. 543 00:22:36,594 --> 00:22:39,314 Speaker 1: I know, everybody dies before they've like finally reached yeah, 544 00:22:39,394 --> 00:22:40,194 Speaker 1: their sibling and. 545 00:22:40,154 --> 00:22:41,954 Speaker 2: All you find it more. I don't find it creepy 546 00:22:41,954 --> 00:22:43,434 Speaker 2: because of the Game of Thrones thing. I find it 547 00:22:43,434 --> 00:22:45,154 Speaker 2: more creepy because they kind of act like brother and 548 00:22:45,154 --> 00:22:47,114 Speaker 2: sister in real life. But I guess that's also just 549 00:22:47,194 --> 00:22:49,314 Speaker 2: kind of acting. Sophie did say she wanted to throw 550 00:22:49,354 --> 00:22:49,994 Speaker 2: up afterwards. 551 00:22:50,074 --> 00:22:52,273 Speaker 1: Yeah, she did say kissing me apparently both of them 552 00:22:52,314 --> 00:22:54,954 Speaker 1: were wretching during the scenes, which I think maybe was 553 00:22:54,994 --> 00:22:57,634 Speaker 1: also sitting in my head, but it does it. 554 00:22:57,834 --> 00:22:58,914 Speaker 3: It's hard when. 555 00:22:58,714 --> 00:23:01,273 Speaker 1: You know certain stars for so long, you know them 556 00:23:01,394 --> 00:23:03,474 Speaker 1: so well, and this other thing to remove that, and 557 00:23:03,514 --> 00:23:05,914 Speaker 1: particularly because it feels like the same kind of era. 558 00:23:06,634 --> 00:23:08,194 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? Yeah, they look like 559 00:23:08,234 --> 00:23:09,234 Speaker 2: their characters for Game of. 560 00:23:09,714 --> 00:23:12,274 Speaker 1: It's not it's a bit different obviously, but it's got 561 00:23:12,314 --> 00:23:15,674 Speaker 1: that same medieval CREATI even old vibe. But the other 562 00:23:15,714 --> 00:23:18,154 Speaker 1: thing is Sophie Turner is also going to be starring 563 00:23:18,314 --> 00:23:20,994 Speaker 1: in the Lara Croft series that is going to be 564 00:23:21,034 --> 00:23:24,033 Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime now. It's being written and co created 565 00:23:24,034 --> 00:23:27,033 Speaker 1: by Phoebe waller Bridge. But the first photo that we 566 00:23:27,114 --> 00:23:30,074 Speaker 1: saw of her, people were really like, Okay, great, she's 567 00:23:30,114 --> 00:23:31,273 Speaker 1: gonna be Lara Croft. 568 00:23:31,994 --> 00:23:33,793 Speaker 3: But there were some like U. 569 00:23:33,874 --> 00:23:36,354 Speaker 2: There's always I think, because that is just such a 570 00:23:36,754 --> 00:23:40,354 Speaker 2: iconic character, obviously from the games and then from the movie. 571 00:23:40,394 --> 00:23:42,273 Speaker 2: So you have Angelina Jolie, which I think a lot 572 00:23:42,274 --> 00:23:45,834 Speaker 2: of people still think has the ultimate on screen Lara Croft, 573 00:23:46,314 --> 00:23:49,114 Speaker 2: with her version of that character, and then we had 574 00:23:49,154 --> 00:23:52,594 Speaker 2: Alicia Vakanda, who resurrected the character a few years later. 575 00:23:52,914 --> 00:23:55,114 Speaker 2: I quite liked that movie. I wrote a positive review 576 00:23:55,114 --> 00:23:57,273 Speaker 2: of it. I don't think anyone else did. Yeah, it 577 00:23:57,314 --> 00:23:58,554 Speaker 2: was kind of like, well some people did. It was 578 00:23:58,554 --> 00:23:59,874 Speaker 2: a bit of hit and miss I thought she did 579 00:23:59,914 --> 00:24:00,594 Speaker 2: quite a good job. 580 00:24:00,674 --> 00:24:03,714 Speaker 1: So I remember I actually played tomb Rodel when I 581 00:24:03,754 --> 00:24:07,794 Speaker 1: was younger, and I remember watching the first Angelina version 582 00:24:07,834 --> 00:24:09,954 Speaker 1: and being like, yeah, she's she's Laracraft. And then I 583 00:24:10,034 --> 00:24:12,954 Speaker 1: remember playing the game with my older brother and I 584 00:24:12,954 --> 00:24:14,634 Speaker 1: was like, there is such a focus on the way 585 00:24:14,674 --> 00:24:18,074 Speaker 1: this woman's boobs move, Like every single time you would 586 00:24:18,114 --> 00:24:22,434 Speaker 1: make her jump, like the boobs would be very obviously bouncing. 587 00:24:23,234 --> 00:24:25,114 Speaker 1: And it was such a funny thing because I think 588 00:24:25,154 --> 00:24:30,314 Speaker 1: obviously video games generally are geared towards boys and you know, teenagers, 589 00:24:30,994 --> 00:24:33,914 Speaker 1: and because Lara Croft was like the first one of 590 00:24:33,954 --> 00:24:37,674 Speaker 1: the first female led games, she was very iconic because 591 00:24:37,674 --> 00:24:39,834 Speaker 1: of that. But the reason boys were playing that game 592 00:24:39,914 --> 00:24:41,314 Speaker 1: is because Lara Croft was hot. 593 00:24:41,554 --> 00:24:43,714 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The boobs in Lara Croft are always like 594 00:24:43,714 --> 00:24:45,754 Speaker 2: they should be getting a Supporting Act nomination, like in 595 00:24:45,794 --> 00:24:48,114 Speaker 2: all the movies, because they are sort of seen as 596 00:24:48,154 --> 00:24:50,034 Speaker 2: like the second and third character. 597 00:24:49,834 --> 00:24:50,354 Speaker 3: I saw it. 598 00:24:50,634 --> 00:24:52,793 Speaker 1: I saw someone say her boobs up big enough to 599 00:24:52,794 --> 00:24:54,474 Speaker 1: be Laura, which is so so me. 600 00:24:55,114 --> 00:24:56,954 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't love some of that. I mean there 601 00:24:56,994 --> 00:24:59,793 Speaker 2: was I saw a lot of really excited commentary about it, 602 00:24:59,794 --> 00:25:03,674 Speaker 2: because obviously people love Sophie Turner and people love this character, 603 00:25:03,714 --> 00:25:05,794 Speaker 2: so they're excited to see it. But it's the same 604 00:25:05,794 --> 00:25:08,714 Speaker 2: thing when there's any kind of conic character. It's the 605 00:25:08,754 --> 00:25:10,634 Speaker 2: same thing we see with like a Disney princess. When 606 00:25:10,634 --> 00:25:12,914 Speaker 2: people see the live of action, they start saying like, oh, 607 00:25:12,954 --> 00:25:14,914 Speaker 2: but wasn't her plat on the other side, or like, 608 00:25:14,994 --> 00:25:18,114 Speaker 2: weren't her eyes dark blue instead of hazel? Like people 609 00:25:18,154 --> 00:25:20,594 Speaker 2: get very nickpicky of wanting to look the person to 610 00:25:20,594 --> 00:25:23,354 Speaker 2: look exactly like the picture they've seen. And so yeah, 611 00:25:23,474 --> 00:25:25,554 Speaker 2: some of the commentary I saw the Sophie Turner along 612 00:25:25,594 --> 00:25:28,034 Speaker 2: with the good stuff. Was she yet her boobs aren't 613 00:25:28,034 --> 00:25:30,794 Speaker 2: big enough, She's not smoldering enough. I saw from a 614 00:25:30,794 --> 00:25:33,274 Speaker 2: lot of people She's not sexy enough. I don't quite 615 00:25:33,274 --> 00:25:35,114 Speaker 2: believe that. I also don't know if you can tell 616 00:25:35,154 --> 00:25:38,234 Speaker 2: from a picture like I would make my judgment on 617 00:25:38,274 --> 00:25:39,714 Speaker 2: whether she or not she's a good Lara Croft when 618 00:25:39,754 --> 00:25:41,754 Speaker 2: I see her as the character, because anyone can stand 619 00:25:41,834 --> 00:25:44,154 Speaker 2: It's like a Halloween picture. Anyone can stand in a 620 00:25:44,154 --> 00:25:46,994 Speaker 2: costume and pose and have a docted photo, go up 621 00:25:47,034 --> 00:25:49,954 Speaker 2: and kind of be an okay Lara Croft. Like, I 622 00:25:49,954 --> 00:25:52,593 Speaker 2: think it'll come down to how she comes across on screen. 623 00:25:53,074 --> 00:25:55,994 Speaker 2: And they said the casting for Lara Croft was quite 624 00:25:56,034 --> 00:25:58,114 Speaker 2: extensive and they saw a lot of actresses, which I 625 00:25:58,114 --> 00:26:00,754 Speaker 2: believe because this series is gonna live and die on 626 00:26:00,794 --> 00:26:02,714 Speaker 2: whether or not that lead actress can carry it. So 627 00:26:02,794 --> 00:26:05,194 Speaker 2: I feel like if everyone thought that she was the 628 00:26:05,194 --> 00:26:06,954 Speaker 2: best choice, she must have something. 629 00:26:07,194 --> 00:26:09,033 Speaker 1: I think she's an excellent actor. I do think she 630 00:26:09,074 --> 00:26:11,394 Speaker 1: can definitely pull it off. I like that it's, you know, 631 00:26:11,554 --> 00:26:14,714 Speaker 1: it kind of is moving from that gene Gray that she. 632 00:26:14,594 --> 00:26:16,314 Speaker 3: Did with xamating kind of getting that kind. 633 00:26:16,194 --> 00:26:19,674 Speaker 1: Of superhero ish action vibe from it. 634 00:26:19,674 --> 00:26:21,274 Speaker 3: It's quite these two very different. 635 00:26:21,274 --> 00:26:24,914 Speaker 1: You're either doing period dramas or you're doing superheroes. 636 00:26:25,154 --> 00:26:27,353 Speaker 3: But I think she's I think she looks gorgeous. I 637 00:26:27,434 --> 00:26:29,674 Speaker 3: love the costume. I like the little gloves that she's 638 00:26:29,714 --> 00:26:29,994 Speaker 3: got on. 639 00:26:30,274 --> 00:26:32,794 Speaker 1: We've gone back to a high necked tank top, which 640 00:26:32,834 --> 00:26:35,594 Speaker 1: I prefer to the low neck that Alicia Evercanda had, 641 00:26:36,394 --> 00:26:39,474 Speaker 1: and I like, we've got our classic slutstrand. 642 00:26:39,354 --> 00:26:42,034 Speaker 2: Important, historically accurate, historically accurate. 643 00:26:42,114 --> 00:26:45,914 Speaker 1: But for so many people, Angelina Jolie is just such 644 00:26:45,954 --> 00:26:46,474 Speaker 1: a like. 645 00:26:46,834 --> 00:26:48,874 Speaker 3: The personification. 646 00:26:49,954 --> 00:26:52,674 Speaker 2: Exactly. That's so it's hard to move past. It's hard 647 00:26:52,634 --> 00:26:54,994 Speaker 2: to choose to fill exactly. So, but I'm excited to 648 00:26:54,994 --> 00:26:56,754 Speaker 2: watch it. I'm definitely gonna watch it, and I'll sort 649 00:26:56,754 --> 00:26:59,434 Speaker 2: of reserve my judgment till then. The other thing I 650 00:26:59,434 --> 00:27:01,394 Speaker 2: thought interesting is like the kind of like a bit 651 00:27:01,394 --> 00:27:03,754 Speaker 2: of intrigue behind it. And as you said, this is 652 00:27:03,914 --> 00:27:06,474 Speaker 2: created by Phoebe waller Bridge, who people would know from 653 00:27:06,634 --> 00:27:09,834 Speaker 2: Flea back her incredible TV show that she created. Wrote 654 00:27:09,954 --> 00:27:12,634 Speaker 2: Start In won many awards. She was also like the 655 00:27:12,634 --> 00:27:15,594 Speaker 2: creative force behind Killing Eve. She started in Indiana. Jones 656 00:27:16,074 --> 00:27:18,154 Speaker 2: Co wrote No Time to Die Like She's had a 657 00:27:18,234 --> 00:27:22,194 Speaker 2: very yeah, huge, Like her career is so interest because 658 00:27:22,234 --> 00:27:24,674 Speaker 2: she jumps back and forth between these like and she 659 00:27:24,754 --> 00:27:27,634 Speaker 2: did that show Run with merret Reever and Domal Gleeson, 660 00:27:27,714 --> 00:27:29,553 Speaker 2: which is so good if anyone hasn't seen it. She 661 00:27:29,594 --> 00:27:32,874 Speaker 2: kind of jumps between this like prestige, smaller indie TV 662 00:27:33,074 --> 00:27:36,394 Speaker 2: and these like crazy big blockbusters. But the interesting thing 663 00:27:36,474 --> 00:27:39,793 Speaker 2: here is back in twenty nineteen when she was like, 664 00:27:39,834 --> 00:27:41,553 Speaker 2: she's still an girl, but then she was like the 665 00:27:42,234 --> 00:27:44,954 Speaker 2: girl because that was huge. Yeah, everyone was talking about 666 00:27:44,994 --> 00:27:47,674 Speaker 2: her as like the future of the entertainment industry and 667 00:27:47,754 --> 00:27:50,194 Speaker 2: so off the back of that, she signed a twenty 668 00:27:50,274 --> 00:27:53,154 Speaker 2: million a year, twenty million a year deal with Amazon 669 00:27:53,274 --> 00:27:57,034 Speaker 2: Studios to create content, and you know, Starr and things, 670 00:27:57,114 --> 00:28:00,273 Speaker 2: create things and the first big and it started strong. 671 00:28:00,314 --> 00:28:03,474 Speaker 2: Her first big title was meant to be a series 672 00:28:03,634 --> 00:28:05,314 Speaker 2: based off Mister and Missus Smith. 673 00:28:05,434 --> 00:28:07,754 Speaker 3: Funnily enough, also and Angela. 674 00:28:09,594 --> 00:28:11,634 Speaker 2: Oh my god, get Phoebe waller Bridge and Angela and 675 00:28:11,714 --> 00:28:12,634 Speaker 2: Joli in a movie together. 676 00:28:12,714 --> 00:28:13,033 Speaker 3: I love that. 677 00:28:13,194 --> 00:28:15,513 Speaker 2: Obviously fans of each other. That's all I want right 678 00:28:15,514 --> 00:28:18,474 Speaker 2: now is to see them together with Donald Glover. And 679 00:28:18,554 --> 00:28:20,553 Speaker 2: everyone was like, how could this go wrong? There was 680 00:28:20,594 --> 00:28:23,513 Speaker 2: so much hype for it. It's Donald Glover and Phoebe 681 00:28:23,554 --> 00:28:26,634 Speaker 2: waller Bridge. People love them together. They're both so creative. 682 00:28:26,954 --> 00:28:28,674 Speaker 2: This is going to be hot and amazing. It's going 683 00:28:28,754 --> 00:28:31,594 Speaker 2: to be the show. And then Phee waller Bridge left 684 00:28:31,594 --> 00:28:34,714 Speaker 2: the project because of creative differences. That's all we know 685 00:28:34,914 --> 00:28:37,194 Speaker 2: that she and Donald and like the team had creative 686 00:28:37,194 --> 00:28:38,594 Speaker 2: differences and she walked away. 687 00:28:38,714 --> 00:28:41,794 Speaker 1: It reminds Yeah, that phrase creative differences is like the 688 00:28:41,874 --> 00:28:43,714 Speaker 1: irreconcilable differences. 689 00:28:43,234 --> 00:28:45,714 Speaker 3: In a divorce. Like, yeah, it's kind of like a catch. 690 00:28:45,434 --> 00:28:48,794 Speaker 2: All for what's going on. So again, the nosy side 691 00:28:48,794 --> 00:28:50,634 Speaker 2: of me would just love to know what happened. But 692 00:28:51,114 --> 00:28:53,754 Speaker 2: I almost do think because they like Donald and Phoebe 693 00:28:53,754 --> 00:28:55,394 Speaker 2: from what we know of them, are used to being 694 00:28:55,434 --> 00:28:58,714 Speaker 2: like the creative force in their projects, the showrunner and 695 00:28:58,754 --> 00:29:01,394 Speaker 2: I sometimes it's why Tina Fan and Amy Poula said 696 00:29:01,394 --> 00:29:03,394 Speaker 2: that they don't make TV shows together because they're both 697 00:29:03,474 --> 00:29:06,594 Speaker 2: used to being the top dog. Yeah, from a creative force, 698 00:29:06,634 --> 00:29:09,074 Speaker 2: So they can two together, but they can't make TV together. 699 00:29:09,114 --> 00:29:10,274 Speaker 2: And I wonder if that's the same thing. 700 00:29:10,434 --> 00:29:12,914 Speaker 3: What was it? It was Atlanta? Was Donald Glover's show? Was 701 00:29:12,914 --> 00:29:13,474 Speaker 3: that Atlanta? 702 00:29:13,634 --> 00:29:14,314 Speaker 2: Is that the right show? 703 00:29:14,354 --> 00:29:19,074 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so he's again he's incredibly talented, obviously wonderful musician, 704 00:29:19,154 --> 00:29:21,554 Speaker 1: But that to me makes a lot of sense if 705 00:29:21,594 --> 00:29:24,674 Speaker 1: you're used to sort of having things your way. But yeah, 706 00:29:24,714 --> 00:29:26,794 Speaker 1: she left that project that didn't end up happening, and 707 00:29:26,794 --> 00:29:29,954 Speaker 1: then there hasn't really been any other projects. 708 00:29:29,554 --> 00:29:30,994 Speaker 3: Except for a docuseries. 709 00:29:31,274 --> 00:29:32,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, so she did that. So that's the kind of 710 00:29:32,794 --> 00:29:35,434 Speaker 2: thing that a lot of places have reported over the years. 711 00:29:35,474 --> 00:29:37,914 Speaker 2: It's kind of been this mystery of like the Phoebe 712 00:29:37,954 --> 00:29:41,274 Speaker 2: waller Bridge multimillion dollar Amazon mystery. Is it like Deadline, 713 00:29:41,354 --> 00:29:45,234 Speaker 2: Hollywood Reporter and The Guardian and all these places have 714 00:29:45,394 --> 00:29:47,394 Speaker 2: like kind of really been following this story. And I've 715 00:29:47,434 --> 00:29:49,234 Speaker 2: always thought it was really interesting as well, is that 716 00:29:49,554 --> 00:29:52,634 Speaker 2: she then sort of didn't appear to be putting out 717 00:29:52,674 --> 00:29:54,754 Speaker 2: any content for many years, and I think that then 718 00:29:54,914 --> 00:29:58,274 Speaker 2: there was reports they did rework the deal, but The 719 00:29:58,314 --> 00:30:01,594 Speaker 2: Guardian was like, well, in short, waller Bridge has collected 720 00:30:01,594 --> 00:30:04,354 Speaker 2: sixty million from Amazon over the last few years without 721 00:30:04,394 --> 00:30:05,794 Speaker 2: ever making a new show. 722 00:30:05,874 --> 00:30:06,074 Speaker 1: Good. 723 00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:09,434 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I mean, exactly great work if you can 724 00:30:09,554 --> 00:30:09,794 Speaker 2: get it. 725 00:30:10,114 --> 00:30:11,354 Speaker 3: I love that for her. 726 00:30:11,474 --> 00:30:13,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guess that's how Also that's just 727 00:30:13,554 --> 00:30:15,754 Speaker 2: also how like production and things works. And again she 728 00:30:15,834 --> 00:30:17,674 Speaker 2: might have been doing more behind the scenes, we don't know, 729 00:30:17,754 --> 00:30:19,674 Speaker 2: but that was kind of that was a narrative out there. 730 00:30:19,714 --> 00:30:22,594 Speaker 2: It's like Phoebe waller Bridge has like disappeared a little bit, 731 00:30:23,194 --> 00:30:25,394 Speaker 2: and she's getting all this money from Amazon and where 732 00:30:25,394 --> 00:30:27,954 Speaker 2: are all these things? And it's kind of interesting because 733 00:30:28,034 --> 00:30:31,954 Speaker 2: obviously the only other kind of very public example of 734 00:30:31,994 --> 00:30:35,714 Speaker 2: this that we have is the Prince Harry meganmarkelled multi 735 00:30:35,794 --> 00:30:39,034 Speaker 2: year Netflix steel worth about one hundred million that they 736 00:30:39,074 --> 00:30:42,914 Speaker 2: signed back in twenty twenty and then didn't really produce 737 00:30:43,194 --> 00:30:45,954 Speaker 2: a lot of content or didn't really kind of there 738 00:30:45,994 --> 00:30:47,874 Speaker 2: was all these stories that like and some people at 739 00:30:47,954 --> 00:30:50,274 Speaker 2: Netflix and Spotify and stuff have called them grifters and 740 00:30:50,274 --> 00:30:52,434 Speaker 2: all that sort of stuff. Well that was Spotify, not Netflix, 741 00:30:52,674 --> 00:30:55,474 Speaker 2: trying to be with our multi billion dollar businesses who 742 00:30:55,514 --> 00:30:58,434 Speaker 2: we attribute quotes to. But there was that whole thing 743 00:30:58,474 --> 00:31:01,394 Speaker 2: of like Megan Markle and Prince Harry, but in particular 744 00:31:01,434 --> 00:31:04,474 Speaker 2: Megan Markle because everyone always centers on her this idea 745 00:31:04,514 --> 00:31:07,634 Speaker 2: that she had taken this huge paycheck from these companies 746 00:31:07,674 --> 00:31:10,394 Speaker 2: and then was creating no content, and that was like 747 00:31:10,474 --> 00:31:14,034 Speaker 2: this huge negative story that followed her around and really 748 00:31:14,074 --> 00:31:17,314 Speaker 2: turn people against her and has been really pushing that 749 00:31:18,074 --> 00:31:21,474 Speaker 2: really negative public persona of her. And on the other hand, 750 00:31:21,474 --> 00:31:23,234 Speaker 2: you've got Phoebe Woller Bridge who has kind of done 751 00:31:23,274 --> 00:31:25,714 Speaker 2: the same thing. No shade to either of these women, Like, 752 00:31:25,754 --> 00:31:28,234 Speaker 2: I honestly think there's more happening behind the scenes. 753 00:31:27,994 --> 00:31:31,194 Speaker 1: But for me, the difference is Phoebe waller Bridge is 754 00:31:31,314 --> 00:31:34,754 Speaker 1: a like a talented creative coming from fleaback. It's like that, 755 00:31:35,114 --> 00:31:37,514 Speaker 1: you know, started from the bottom, now are here kind 756 00:31:37,554 --> 00:31:41,234 Speaker 1: of thing, whereas Meghan and Harry are from well, Harry 757 00:31:41,594 --> 00:31:46,394 Speaker 1: is from the establishment, we're from somewhere that is a 758 00:31:46,474 --> 00:31:49,154 Speaker 1: ton of money, Like you were earning you own like 759 00:31:49,194 --> 00:31:52,714 Speaker 1: half of England and the UK and have all this 760 00:31:52,794 --> 00:31:55,074 Speaker 1: property and you know you've got all this money from 761 00:31:55,114 --> 00:31:58,874 Speaker 1: that side of your life, you know, Mega Markele being successful. 762 00:31:58,314 --> 00:31:59,834 Speaker 3: In suits and all of that. 763 00:31:59,834 --> 00:32:02,394 Speaker 2: That to me, I feel like is the potentially Obviously 764 00:32:02,394 --> 00:32:04,554 Speaker 2: there's that kind of weighted background there. But at the 765 00:32:04,594 --> 00:32:05,994 Speaker 2: same time, I think I think a lot of people 766 00:32:05,994 --> 00:32:07,674 Speaker 2: aren't even looking that deep into But I think it's 767 00:32:07,674 --> 00:32:09,994 Speaker 2: like you see Phoebe waller Bridge have this deal and 768 00:32:10,034 --> 00:32:12,234 Speaker 2: you see Meghan Markle go through the same things. But 769 00:32:12,354 --> 00:32:15,314 Speaker 2: because the public perception is that we like feed waller Bridge, 770 00:32:15,314 --> 00:32:18,314 Speaker 2: she's smart and funny, whatever she wants to do, we'll 771 00:32:18,354 --> 00:32:21,034 Speaker 2: give her a pass that didn't get afforded to Meghan 772 00:32:21,074 --> 00:32:23,234 Speaker 2: Markel in the same way when everyone was like she's 773 00:32:23,274 --> 00:32:26,274 Speaker 2: a theft, she's a grifter, she's like trying to take 774 00:32:26,314 --> 00:32:29,394 Speaker 2: down the entertainment industry. She's so lazy, all these things 775 00:32:29,594 --> 00:32:31,554 Speaker 2: that I don't think she'll ever really be able to 776 00:32:31,554 --> 00:32:33,234 Speaker 2: shake off. And it's what was interesting, how you can 777 00:32:33,314 --> 00:32:36,674 Speaker 2: have two similar narratives where we don't have the backgrounds 778 00:32:36,674 --> 00:32:38,394 Speaker 2: on either of them, so we can we've only got 779 00:32:38,474 --> 00:32:41,634 Speaker 2: very surface level, but just how the public can decide 780 00:32:41,674 --> 00:32:46,194 Speaker 2: who's a genius and who's like a grifter essentially from 781 00:32:46,234 --> 00:32:47,154 Speaker 2: the same information. 782 00:32:47,514 --> 00:32:50,274 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I feel that, but I think that's because 783 00:32:50,394 --> 00:32:52,434 Speaker 1: everybody just loves to hate Megan Markle. 784 00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:54,514 Speaker 2: Yeah, it always comes and that is what every single 785 00:32:54,634 --> 00:32:56,714 Speaker 2: story around her and the whole world comes back to. 786 00:32:56,834 --> 00:32:59,754 Speaker 1: She's she's become the scapegoat and like the reason for 787 00:33:00,074 --> 00:33:02,914 Speaker 1: every single issue within the royal family. 788 00:33:03,074 --> 00:33:06,154 Speaker 2: I think it's because Phoebe's funny and Meghan's earnest, and 789 00:33:06,314 --> 00:33:08,794 Speaker 2: we do turn against funny women, but like we just 790 00:33:08,874 --> 00:33:11,754 Speaker 2: hate ernest. The public like hates ernest women from the start, 791 00:33:11,834 --> 00:33:13,914 Speaker 2: and I think that's kind of like take out all 792 00:33:13,954 --> 00:33:15,994 Speaker 2: the royal stuff and like that's kind of where it 793 00:33:16,034 --> 00:33:18,314 Speaker 2: comes down to. And of course with Megan mark all 794 00:33:18,314 --> 00:33:20,754 Speaker 2: the hate towards her is always very racially motivated, and 795 00:33:20,794 --> 00:33:23,554 Speaker 2: that's something important to remember. But yeah, so that's the 796 00:33:23,594 --> 00:33:25,194 Speaker 2: kind of story. So, I mean, there's a lot writing 797 00:33:25,234 --> 00:33:27,794 Speaker 2: on this lower Croft series. When I was looking at it, 798 00:33:27,834 --> 00:33:29,954 Speaker 2: I was like, there's the whole Sophie thing, there's the legacy, 799 00:33:29,954 --> 00:33:31,954 Speaker 2: there's the Phoebe waller Bridge of it all. Like it's 800 00:33:31,954 --> 00:33:32,554 Speaker 2: a lot happening. 801 00:33:32,634 --> 00:33:35,714 Speaker 3: I mean, I love that the tomb rated series. 802 00:33:36,074 --> 00:33:37,794 Speaker 1: You know again, I said that play the games, So 803 00:33:37,874 --> 00:33:40,394 Speaker 1: I'm excited for it and I think that if Phoebe 804 00:33:40,434 --> 00:33:43,074 Speaker 1: waller Bridge can bring her talent to it, that it'll 805 00:33:43,114 --> 00:33:46,594 Speaker 1: be really great. I think what will happen though, is 806 00:33:46,594 --> 00:33:49,634 Speaker 1: that the really die hard game of fans of it. Again, 807 00:33:49,754 --> 00:33:53,114 Speaker 1: remember this is primarily men. There may be a slightly 808 00:33:53,114 --> 00:33:55,514 Speaker 1: different lens on the character. 809 00:33:55,794 --> 00:33:57,114 Speaker 2: They might review vombit or something. 810 00:33:57,274 --> 00:33:59,754 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I think it becomes like more of a 811 00:33:59,754 --> 00:34:02,434 Speaker 1: feminist character rather than like this sex. 812 00:34:02,234 --> 00:34:03,354 Speaker 3: Symbol that the Whig. 813 00:34:04,114 --> 00:34:06,194 Speaker 1: And maybe I'm generalizing here, but that's just kind of 814 00:34:06,194 --> 00:34:06,834 Speaker 1: what's in my head. 815 00:34:07,154 --> 00:34:08,953 Speaker 2: So we have no air date for the new tomb 816 00:34:09,034 --> 00:34:12,034 Speaker 2: Rad Lara Croft series. Yeah, we know they're going into production, 817 00:34:12,154 --> 00:34:14,354 Speaker 2: so it'll probably be next year. But yes, we'll keep 818 00:34:14,393 --> 00:34:14,794 Speaker 2: you posting. 819 00:34:14,794 --> 00:34:16,993 Speaker 1: And we had the first trailer thank you so much 820 00:34:16,994 --> 00:34:19,194 Speaker 1: for listening to the Spill today. Don't forget to follow 821 00:34:19,274 --> 00:34:22,674 Speaker 1: us on socials. We've popped links in the show notes. 822 00:34:22,994 --> 00:34:25,034 Speaker 1: We'll be back in your feedbright and early tomorrow morning 823 00:34:25,034 --> 00:34:27,914 Speaker 1: with Morning Tea. Ash London has all the entertainment headlines 824 00:34:27,954 --> 00:34:30,554 Speaker 1: to start your day. 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