1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:10,914 Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast. 2 00:00:19,594 --> 00:00:22,393 Speaker 2: Whoever said orange is a new pink but seriously. 3 00:00:21,994 --> 00:00:26,434 Speaker 3: Disturved laurels for spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have 4 00:00:26,514 --> 00:00:28,274 Speaker 3: to do it. You live for fashion. 5 00:00:30,594 --> 00:00:33,074 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 6 00:00:33,153 --> 00:00:36,793 Speaker 1: solves fashion problems and levels up your wardrobe. I'm Tomorrow Holland, 7 00:00:36,793 --> 00:00:39,393 Speaker 1: I'm the fashion editor here at Mamma Mia and I. 8 00:00:39,314 --> 00:00:43,154 Speaker 4: On listen to Picket, trend forecaster and content creator. Each 9 00:00:43,153 --> 00:00:45,993 Speaker 4: week we talk all things fashion, helping you decide what 10 00:00:46,193 --> 00:00:48,154 Speaker 4: is and isn't worth investing in. 11 00:00:48,553 --> 00:00:49,754 Speaker 3: Tam my friend, how are you? 12 00:00:50,114 --> 00:00:53,153 Speaker 1: I'm very well. I'm all shopped up. I went to 13 00:00:53,193 --> 00:00:55,914 Speaker 1: the shops this week, just my local shops. I hit 14 00:00:55,994 --> 00:00:58,713 Speaker 1: up like Target, Kmart, Best and Less. I found some 15 00:00:58,834 --> 00:01:00,074 Speaker 1: really really good stuff. 16 00:01:00,114 --> 00:01:02,554 Speaker 3: This is basics for winter were not. 17 00:01:02,434 --> 00:01:04,714 Speaker 1: At all basics Like I mean, I found a few 18 00:01:04,754 --> 00:01:07,234 Speaker 1: basic things, like I found a really great trench a 19 00:01:07,274 --> 00:01:09,594 Speaker 1: Target for like forty five dollars. I think it was 20 00:01:09,634 --> 00:01:12,594 Speaker 1: marked down amazing. Best and Less. I've said this a 21 00:01:12,594 --> 00:01:15,154 Speaker 1: few times, like they really their design team is on 22 00:01:15,274 --> 00:01:16,074 Speaker 1: a good run. 23 00:01:16,514 --> 00:01:19,554 Speaker 4: There's some really cute I almost want to drive to 24 00:01:19,634 --> 00:01:20,994 Speaker 4: a Best and Less to find one. 25 00:01:20,994 --> 00:01:24,634 Speaker 3: You've really talked it up. I have this jumper from 26 00:01:24,634 --> 00:01:25,154 Speaker 3: its beauty. 27 00:01:25,514 --> 00:01:28,074 Speaker 1: Wait, this is not a Best and Less. I'm wearing 28 00:01:28,154 --> 00:01:30,994 Speaker 1: a cashmere sweater. It's actually a friend of mine. He 29 00:01:31,034 --> 00:01:34,354 Speaker 1: has a brand called Estilo Imporio and they do beautiful 30 00:01:34,394 --> 00:01:36,994 Speaker 1: linen and they do really gorgeous cashmere. It's so yummy 31 00:01:36,994 --> 00:01:38,554 Speaker 1: and soft and snuff. 32 00:01:38,354 --> 00:01:40,794 Speaker 3: And the color of this beautiful butter Yeah but yellow. 33 00:01:40,954 --> 00:01:42,954 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a few years late to the trend, but 34 00:01:43,074 --> 00:01:43,714 Speaker 1: I'm wearing it. 35 00:01:43,754 --> 00:01:44,034 Speaker 4: Now. 36 00:01:44,194 --> 00:01:44,914 Speaker 1: What are you wearing? 37 00:01:44,914 --> 00:01:45,354 Speaker 3: A suit? 38 00:01:45,474 --> 00:01:45,874 Speaker 1: Is gray? 39 00:01:45,994 --> 00:01:47,674 Speaker 3: In a suit? This was a grabb and Go. 40 00:01:47,874 --> 00:01:51,034 Speaker 4: I love just suiting or just matching pants and tops 41 00:01:51,034 --> 00:01:52,634 Speaker 4: when i'm in a rush. But this is a very 42 00:01:52,674 --> 00:01:57,234 Speaker 4: old Victorian Woods gray oversized low rise suit actually just 43 00:01:57,274 --> 00:01:59,354 Speaker 4: with a cotton and white tak tea underneath. 44 00:01:59,354 --> 00:02:00,994 Speaker 1: And I know you say it's old, but it looks 45 00:02:01,034 --> 00:02:03,114 Speaker 1: like you could have bought that yesterday. It just looks 46 00:02:03,154 --> 00:02:03,794 Speaker 1: so fresh. 47 00:02:03,954 --> 00:02:07,914 Speaker 4: The best thing about just a gray meal tailor suit. 48 00:02:08,114 --> 00:02:09,394 Speaker 4: I get a lot aware out of it. 49 00:02:09,394 --> 00:02:10,514 Speaker 3: Mixing and matching as well. 50 00:02:10,754 --> 00:02:13,034 Speaker 1: It's beautiful, looks great. And you got your Salomon's on. 51 00:02:13,194 --> 00:02:15,274 Speaker 3: Solomon's, You've got your flip flops. 52 00:02:14,913 --> 00:02:17,474 Speaker 1: On nothing's changed here. 53 00:02:18,114 --> 00:02:20,994 Speaker 4: So this week we are talking all things fashion news, 54 00:02:21,034 --> 00:02:22,994 Speaker 4: what's been going on in the world of fashion, which 55 00:02:23,034 --> 00:02:26,074 Speaker 4: is our favorite topic, yay, And we're also looking at 56 00:02:26,114 --> 00:02:28,794 Speaker 4: a millennial shoe that is having a comeback. 57 00:02:28,834 --> 00:02:29,714 Speaker 3: Can you believe it? 58 00:02:29,714 --> 00:02:32,394 Speaker 4: It is definitely not the Solomons that I'm wearing here. 59 00:02:32,714 --> 00:02:34,074 Speaker 4: I cannot wait to talk about that. 60 00:02:34,274 --> 00:02:37,354 Speaker 1: I know same, And later in the episode in Bougie 61 00:02:37,434 --> 00:02:41,434 Speaker 1: to Budget, I am sharing a pant recommendation that's not jeans, 62 00:02:41,834 --> 00:02:43,794 Speaker 1: the new cool pant that everyone's wearing, and I've got 63 00:02:43,834 --> 00:02:47,074 Speaker 1: options starting at sixty five dollars, so stay tuned for that. 64 00:02:47,634 --> 00:02:49,913 Speaker 1: Let's kick off with a celebrity wedding that it would 65 00:02:49,954 --> 00:02:52,474 Speaker 1: be remiss of us not to talk about. We've unpacked 66 00:02:52,554 --> 00:02:55,714 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey. Now we need to talk 67 00:02:55,714 --> 00:02:59,674 Speaker 1: about Gabriette and the nineteen seventy five front man, Mattie Healy. 68 00:03:00,114 --> 00:03:01,994 Speaker 1: I don't know that much about him, but I don't 69 00:03:02,034 --> 00:03:04,514 Speaker 1: know about you. I am obsessed with her, absolutely. She 70 00:03:04,914 --> 00:03:07,594 Speaker 1: is such a cool girl, and I think it's really 71 00:03:07,714 --> 00:03:12,754 Speaker 1: interesting and possibly strategic that she got married like exactly 72 00:03:12,794 --> 00:03:13,834 Speaker 1: two weeks after. 73 00:03:14,194 --> 00:03:17,234 Speaker 4: Is strategic, I don't know, so for those who don't know, 74 00:03:17,354 --> 00:03:19,514 Speaker 4: he is the front man of What's the band the 75 00:03:19,594 --> 00:03:23,114 Speaker 4: nineteen seventy five, and he used to date Taylor Swift. Yeah, 76 00:03:23,154 --> 00:03:26,474 Speaker 4: and they had quite a tumultuous relationship. And she wrote 77 00:03:26,474 --> 00:03:30,154 Speaker 4: a song. Our producer told me this, who's very cluding 78 00:03:30,234 --> 00:03:30,834 Speaker 4: with the culture. 79 00:03:31,114 --> 00:03:34,034 Speaker 1: She wrote a song called Fortnite, which was a huge 80 00:03:34,034 --> 00:03:36,954 Speaker 1: smash hit, and that was allegedly about her relationship with 81 00:03:36,994 --> 00:03:40,394 Speaker 1: Matti Healy, this singer and everything that went on there. 82 00:03:40,474 --> 00:03:42,674 Speaker 1: And of course Matti Healy then went on to be 83 00:03:42,714 --> 00:03:44,834 Speaker 1: in a relationship with Gabriette and it all happened in 84 00:03:44,914 --> 00:03:48,354 Speaker 1: very close proximity and YadA, YadA, YadA. And now they've 85 00:03:48,394 --> 00:03:51,354 Speaker 1: gotten married two weeks after Taylor and Travis, So you know, 86 00:03:51,514 --> 00:03:53,354 Speaker 1: take from that what you will. That's right. 87 00:03:53,394 --> 00:03:56,794 Speaker 4: And for those who don't know Gabriette Bechdel, she is 88 00:03:56,874 --> 00:03:58,114 Speaker 4: a musician. 89 00:03:58,594 --> 00:04:01,274 Speaker 3: So she's the lead singer of Nasty Sherry. 90 00:04:01,594 --> 00:04:04,234 Speaker 4: I didn't know that, but this band was put together 91 00:04:04,274 --> 00:04:05,354 Speaker 4: by Charlie XCX. 92 00:04:05,634 --> 00:04:06,314 Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. 93 00:04:06,394 --> 00:04:07,754 Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's a whole. 94 00:04:07,554 --> 00:04:10,354 Speaker 4: Netflix documentary on her band, so that's interesting. 95 00:04:10,794 --> 00:04:12,794 Speaker 3: But she's also a renowned model. Is it cheap? 96 00:04:12,914 --> 00:04:13,074 Speaker 2: Yeah? 97 00:04:13,114 --> 00:04:15,834 Speaker 1: She walks all the top runway. She's amused for a 98 00:04:15,834 --> 00:04:18,953 Speaker 1: lot of designers, which brings us to her wedding, and 99 00:04:18,993 --> 00:04:21,313 Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting to contrast the fact that 100 00:04:21,313 --> 00:04:24,954 Speaker 1: we haven't seen anything from Taylor's wedding looks, and we've 101 00:04:24,953 --> 00:04:28,993 Speaker 1: seen all of Gabriette's wedding fittings and her you know, 102 00:04:29,073 --> 00:04:32,474 Speaker 1: the looks from the day because she's done interviews and 103 00:04:32,594 --> 00:04:35,873 Speaker 1: videos with with Vogue magazine, so we've really seen all 104 00:04:35,914 --> 00:04:37,074 Speaker 1: the detail. 105 00:04:36,794 --> 00:04:39,433 Speaker 4: And it's really nice seeing in the Vogue articles, some 106 00:04:39,474 --> 00:04:42,714 Speaker 4: beautiful sketches in the illustrations, right, and how it all 107 00:04:42,753 --> 00:04:43,553 Speaker 4: came to life. 108 00:04:43,594 --> 00:04:45,594 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the looks themselves. 109 00:04:45,633 --> 00:04:47,674 Speaker 3: Well, the interesting thing the looks plural there. 110 00:04:47,753 --> 00:04:51,113 Speaker 4: She had three different looks, which I guess is expected. 111 00:04:51,113 --> 00:04:53,234 Speaker 4: Now we'll get into trends as well within Bridle and 112 00:04:53,274 --> 00:04:55,113 Speaker 4: having multiple looks is one of those trends. 113 00:04:55,113 --> 00:04:57,794 Speaker 3: But she did have three looks within the fashion. 114 00:04:57,834 --> 00:05:00,914 Speaker 4: There was the pre wedding look, the wedding gown, and 115 00:05:00,953 --> 00:05:03,594 Speaker 4: then the after party look. Yes, so let's talk about 116 00:05:03,633 --> 00:05:06,874 Speaker 4: the first one. They all have this sort of dark romanticism, 117 00:05:07,594 --> 00:05:10,833 Speaker 4: beautiful gothic Dracula feel throughout them all. 118 00:05:10,714 --> 00:05:14,073 Speaker 1: Right, and I think that's really kind of her signature 119 00:05:14,354 --> 00:05:16,514 Speaker 1: vibe when it comes to her own personal style. 120 00:05:16,674 --> 00:05:16,914 Speaker 3: True. 121 00:05:16,953 --> 00:05:18,833 Speaker 1: What I love about these wedding looks is that there's 122 00:05:18,834 --> 00:05:22,633 Speaker 1: a bit of a cliche with weddings where brides tend 123 00:05:22,674 --> 00:05:25,274 Speaker 1: to sort of dress like what they think a bride 124 00:05:25,474 --> 00:05:28,234 Speaker 1: should look like, and that might be this ultra glamorous 125 00:05:28,313 --> 00:05:30,993 Speaker 1: version or this very bridal quote unquote version of what 126 00:05:31,034 --> 00:05:33,754 Speaker 1: they should look like. Whereas I love that Gabriette has 127 00:05:33,794 --> 00:05:36,914 Speaker 1: really leaned into her own style, just like you said, 128 00:05:37,034 --> 00:05:40,553 Speaker 1: dark romantic. Some people were even comparing her to that 129 00:05:40,674 --> 00:05:45,154 Speaker 1: Tim Burton Corpse Bride movie, and that's kind of her esthetics. 130 00:05:44,914 --> 00:05:48,113 Speaker 4: That's the aesthetic is so she's almost a reference point 131 00:05:48,113 --> 00:05:51,193 Speaker 4: in fashion for that indie Sly is gothic punk and 132 00:05:51,234 --> 00:05:53,193 Speaker 4: her band that I spoke about it is gothic. 133 00:05:53,474 --> 00:05:53,714 Speaker 2: Yes. 134 00:05:53,794 --> 00:05:59,033 Speaker 4: Well, Lee was the pre wedding look, and this is 135 00:05:59,034 --> 00:06:01,234 Speaker 4: her middle name, Lee, This is where the name came from. 136 00:06:01,274 --> 00:06:04,354 Speaker 3: It was a black and white dress. The black dress 137 00:06:04,393 --> 00:06:05,193 Speaker 3: was one of her own. 138 00:06:05,234 --> 00:06:08,553 Speaker 4: It was something old and it was a vintijmajella dress 139 00:06:09,113 --> 00:06:12,513 Speaker 4: which the designers then put some stark white chool underneath, 140 00:06:12,594 --> 00:06:13,993 Speaker 4: which I find I just want to note that it 141 00:06:14,034 --> 00:06:15,354 Speaker 4: was stark white, right. 142 00:06:15,313 --> 00:06:16,553 Speaker 1: Yeah, really beautiful. 143 00:06:16,633 --> 00:06:20,674 Speaker 4: Yeah, And she said that the inspiration came from her 144 00:06:20,794 --> 00:06:25,273 Speaker 4: love for Dracula and the musical Dracula. So she did 145 00:06:25,393 --> 00:06:29,993 Speaker 4: look quite like goth bridle. What if we say hauntedly 146 00:06:30,274 --> 00:06:35,074 Speaker 4: beautifully haunted, right, Yeah, she looked really good like herself, 147 00:06:35,433 --> 00:06:37,034 Speaker 4: like herself, And that's what she said. 148 00:06:37,073 --> 00:06:38,873 Speaker 3: She wasn't going to be the usual bride. 149 00:06:38,873 --> 00:06:40,873 Speaker 4: She said something like this along the lines of this 150 00:06:40,953 --> 00:06:42,873 Speaker 4: de vogue, like, it's very much her style. 151 00:06:42,953 --> 00:06:44,394 Speaker 3: I was wearing black, of course, she was going to 152 00:06:44,474 --> 00:06:45,594 Speaker 3: wear black for the first look. 153 00:06:46,234 --> 00:06:48,234 Speaker 1: And she said, bridal can be whatever you want it 154 00:06:48,274 --> 00:06:50,354 Speaker 1: to be. And I love that quote. I hope that 155 00:06:50,354 --> 00:06:54,313 Speaker 1: that resonates with brides to be everywhere. Then really, it 156 00:06:54,354 --> 00:06:57,273 Speaker 1: can be whatever you want, whatever you interpret it as. 157 00:06:57,753 --> 00:06:58,273 Speaker 3: Yeah. 158 00:06:58,313 --> 00:07:00,914 Speaker 1: So the second look, she wore a real sort of 159 00:07:00,953 --> 00:07:05,394 Speaker 1: mature expression of like an almost Victoriana gown. And it 160 00:07:05,474 --> 00:07:11,434 Speaker 1: was long sleeves, stressed tool beautiful structured bodice through the 161 00:07:11,514 --> 00:07:13,954 Speaker 1: through the hips with padding and then it went out. 162 00:07:13,994 --> 00:07:17,114 Speaker 1: It flared out into a traditional sort of gown, not 163 00:07:17,154 --> 00:07:19,994 Speaker 1: a fishtail really, but more of a sort of subtle flare. 164 00:07:20,194 --> 00:07:21,434 Speaker 3: I would wear this dress. 165 00:07:21,474 --> 00:07:24,314 Speaker 4: I was a sunny yest with this dress, and how 166 00:07:24,354 --> 00:07:26,834 Speaker 4: I mentioned the stark white chol with the first look, 167 00:07:26,874 --> 00:07:30,194 Speaker 4: This one looked like beautifully aged and weathered, right, yeah, 168 00:07:30,274 --> 00:07:32,234 Speaker 4: you know if you find like a really old vintage 169 00:07:32,234 --> 00:07:34,434 Speaker 4: white top, it's got that yellow tinging that's making this 170 00:07:34,514 --> 00:07:36,273 Speaker 4: dress sound really ugly, but like, do you know what 171 00:07:36,314 --> 00:07:38,833 Speaker 4: I mean? That really old look to it. It was 172 00:07:38,914 --> 00:07:41,593 Speaker 4: just old world vibe. She looked and felt a vintage. 173 00:07:41,794 --> 00:07:44,154 Speaker 4: And this one was called the Gabrielle because that's actually 174 00:07:44,194 --> 00:07:46,074 Speaker 4: her name. Gabrielle is her stage name. 175 00:07:46,114 --> 00:07:49,274 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, Gabriella, wasn't it. 176 00:07:49,314 --> 00:07:49,434 Speaker 2: Oh? 177 00:07:49,474 --> 00:07:56,393 Speaker 4: Sorry, yes, so Gabriella, Yeah, okay, Gabrielle, Gabriella, Gabrielle. And 178 00:07:56,434 --> 00:07:59,593 Speaker 4: then the last one was her fun after party look, 179 00:07:59,634 --> 00:08:02,074 Speaker 4: and this one was called the Heally, and this was 180 00:08:02,074 --> 00:08:04,833 Speaker 4: a two piece made out of a really nice buttery 181 00:08:05,074 --> 00:08:08,754 Speaker 4: lambskin leather with a top or a writing hat by 182 00:08:08,834 --> 00:08:09,754 Speaker 4: Stephen Jones. 183 00:08:10,074 --> 00:08:10,914 Speaker 3: And this was fun. 184 00:08:10,994 --> 00:08:12,634 Speaker 4: She was like, this is the outfit that I was 185 00:08:12,674 --> 00:08:14,674 Speaker 4: just ready to party and she wanted to walk in 186 00:08:14,714 --> 00:08:16,713 Speaker 4: with a bottle of champagne. And you could just get 187 00:08:16,754 --> 00:08:19,074 Speaker 4: that energy from this look. I like that it was 188 00:08:19,114 --> 00:08:21,393 Speaker 4: two piece that was a bit different. I also like 189 00:08:21,634 --> 00:08:22,354 Speaker 4: the leather. 190 00:08:22,554 --> 00:08:25,794 Speaker 1: The jaunty little top hat top hat. She said she 191 00:08:25,874 --> 00:08:29,794 Speaker 1: was getting kind of Nicole kidman Kylie Minogue vibes, which 192 00:08:29,834 --> 00:08:33,674 Speaker 1: I love. The call out to our Australian queens, so true. 193 00:08:33,914 --> 00:08:36,834 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the brand behind her bridle looks. So 194 00:08:37,194 --> 00:08:40,874 Speaker 1: you have probably heard this name around the internet because 195 00:08:40,874 --> 00:08:44,394 Speaker 1: it's everywhere right now, and it's quite a controversial one. 196 00:08:44,754 --> 00:08:48,514 Speaker 1: So it's called mattia Fical, which is a French term 197 00:08:48,594 --> 00:08:52,194 Speaker 1: that actually translates to fecal matter, So the bride war 198 00:08:52,794 --> 00:08:57,194 Speaker 1: fecal matter. But what that, Yeah, so that really speaks 199 00:08:57,274 --> 00:09:00,954 Speaker 1: to the kind of identity behind this brand. It's actually Canadian, 200 00:09:00,994 --> 00:09:04,674 Speaker 1: two Canadian designers, but they work at an attelier in Paris. 201 00:09:05,074 --> 00:09:09,274 Speaker 1: The brand is very subversive, been called dystopian. But what 202 00:09:09,474 --> 00:09:12,434 Speaker 1: really makes them unique is that their designs have a 203 00:09:12,674 --> 00:09:17,274 Speaker 1: mature sensibility about them. So their their high end handmade 204 00:09:17,314 --> 00:09:19,674 Speaker 1: designs and they do they're really known for sort of 205 00:09:19,754 --> 00:09:23,474 Speaker 1: distressed gowns and that kind of thing. Sarah Paulson wore 206 00:09:23,674 --> 00:09:27,514 Speaker 1: mattia Fical to the met Gala in a beautiful distressed 207 00:09:27,554 --> 00:09:31,874 Speaker 1: gray organza gown and most recently, one of the key 208 00:09:31,914 --> 00:09:35,074 Speaker 1: looks that we've seen from this brand is Zendaya for 209 00:09:35,394 --> 00:09:39,034 Speaker 1: the Odyssey Press to us, she was styled by law Roach, 210 00:09:39,114 --> 00:09:44,314 Speaker 1: of course, in this incredible Mattia fical gown with angel wings. 211 00:09:44,714 --> 00:09:47,874 Speaker 1: And the story behind this gown is that it was 212 00:09:47,994 --> 00:09:51,234 Speaker 1: I think the finale look for their runway show two 213 00:09:51,354 --> 00:09:55,114 Speaker 1: years ago, and at the time, law Roach had asked 214 00:09:55,114 --> 00:09:57,834 Speaker 1: the brand to hold this look for Zendea. 215 00:09:57,554 --> 00:09:58,834 Speaker 3: For a future. 216 00:10:01,234 --> 00:10:03,634 Speaker 1: And they promised that to him and they said, Okay, 217 00:10:03,674 --> 00:10:06,194 Speaker 1: we'll hold it. Everyone wants this stress, but we'll hold 218 00:10:06,234 --> 00:10:08,794 Speaker 1: it for Zendeya. And true to their word, they did, 219 00:10:08,834 --> 00:10:14,034 Speaker 1: and they managed to execute this incredible looking. 220 00:10:12,554 --> 00:10:14,314 Speaker 3: About that like putting all your chips on it. 221 00:10:14,354 --> 00:10:16,714 Speaker 4: But Zendea two years ago was really at the height 222 00:10:16,754 --> 00:10:18,834 Speaker 4: of her career anyways, Like it was a pretty safe 223 00:10:18,834 --> 00:10:21,154 Speaker 4: bet right Challenges or June. 224 00:10:21,354 --> 00:10:24,274 Speaker 1: She was already doing this incredible method dressing. And you 225 00:10:24,314 --> 00:10:27,154 Speaker 1: could see then like the vision that law Roach must 226 00:10:27,154 --> 00:10:29,194 Speaker 1: have had. He would have known the Odyssey was coming 227 00:10:29,234 --> 00:10:31,674 Speaker 1: and known that she was playing the goddess Athena to 228 00:10:31,754 --> 00:10:33,953 Speaker 1: have that kind of foresight. But yeah, so that the 229 00:10:34,554 --> 00:10:37,514 Speaker 1: combination of Zendea wearing the brand now, Gabriette wearing the 230 00:10:37,514 --> 00:10:40,994 Speaker 1: brand and Lady Gagas worn Mattia for Carl recently, so 231 00:10:41,034 --> 00:10:44,154 Speaker 1: that you're kind of having this moment now where everyone 232 00:10:44,154 --> 00:10:45,554 Speaker 1: wants to wear this label. 233 00:10:45,394 --> 00:10:48,714 Speaker 4: And Mattia ficaal. They've got the collaboration with Christian Lubton. 234 00:10:48,874 --> 00:10:51,914 Speaker 4: So the shoes that Zendeia was wearing at the premiere, 235 00:10:52,154 --> 00:10:55,594 Speaker 4: it's this collaboration. It was that curved platform here, so 236 00:10:55,634 --> 00:10:58,314 Speaker 4: they were also the shoe that Gabriette wore. But what 237 00:10:58,474 --> 00:11:00,714 Speaker 4: I found at her wedding, actually it was this Lubton 238 00:11:01,034 --> 00:11:03,194 Speaker 4: shoe in collaboration with fequal matter. 239 00:11:03,234 --> 00:11:04,994 Speaker 3: I'm going to call it. You say it's so beautifully 240 00:11:05,154 --> 00:11:06,114 Speaker 3: do I mat? 241 00:11:07,114 --> 00:11:09,194 Speaker 1: I'm actually where everything sounds better in French ships. 242 00:11:09,314 --> 00:11:09,994 Speaker 3: That's so true. 243 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:13,154 Speaker 4: But I found it strange how these brands the name 244 00:11:13,274 --> 00:11:16,274 Speaker 4: hasn't really stopped them in their tracks. Brands like Christian 245 00:11:16,394 --> 00:11:18,594 Speaker 4: lu Baton are still partnering with them. They've still got 246 00:11:18,634 --> 00:11:22,074 Speaker 4: such relevancy and credibility within the industry, right even with 247 00:11:22,114 --> 00:11:22,794 Speaker 4: a name like that. 248 00:11:23,114 --> 00:11:24,034 Speaker 3: But I was looking into it. 249 00:11:24,074 --> 00:11:27,034 Speaker 4: They started as an art project, not a fashion brand, 250 00:11:27,114 --> 00:11:30,714 Speaker 4: and the whole point was to disrupt how consumers think 251 00:11:30,754 --> 00:11:31,714 Speaker 4: about fashion. 252 00:11:32,154 --> 00:11:36,034 Speaker 1: Even the look of the designers themselves has become quite iconic. 253 00:11:36,154 --> 00:11:40,754 Speaker 1: They wear this white face makeup with really dark, blacked 254 00:11:40,754 --> 00:11:44,074 Speaker 1: out eyes, They've got shaved heads, they wear these almost 255 00:11:44,154 --> 00:11:47,994 Speaker 1: like body modification pieces to make them look almost alien 256 00:11:48,154 --> 00:11:51,754 Speaker 1: like or other worldly in their personification of their own look. 257 00:11:52,034 --> 00:11:54,834 Speaker 1: And then the runway models that they cast, they also 258 00:11:55,154 --> 00:11:58,674 Speaker 1: have sort of made a point of having really diverse casting, 259 00:11:58,914 --> 00:12:02,514 Speaker 1: so they're doing some really interesting forward thinking things. 260 00:12:02,034 --> 00:12:02,874 Speaker 3: Such a cool brand. 261 00:12:02,954 --> 00:12:06,994 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And speaking of bridal trends and what's forecasted, 262 00:12:07,194 --> 00:12:10,994 Speaker 4: a lot of what she was doing, I'm sure fecal matter, 263 00:12:11,354 --> 00:12:15,194 Speaker 4: if you want to say the French word, they would 264 00:12:15,194 --> 00:12:17,274 Speaker 4: have gone to New York Bridle Fashion Week, which was 265 00:12:17,274 --> 00:12:17,834 Speaker 4: in April. 266 00:12:17,834 --> 00:12:19,154 Speaker 3: We saw a lot of these trends. 267 00:12:19,154 --> 00:12:21,394 Speaker 4: So a couple that will be seeing next year within 268 00:12:21,434 --> 00:12:25,274 Speaker 4: bridle fashion is the anti princess bride, So basically what 269 00:12:25,394 --> 00:12:29,074 Speaker 4: Gabriette's done, but turning the volume down a notch like yeah, her, 270 00:12:29,194 --> 00:12:32,314 Speaker 4: but on a lower dosage. So yeah, she's done some 271 00:12:32,394 --> 00:12:34,834 Speaker 4: amazing pieces of the top hat, the riding hat, whatnot. 272 00:12:34,954 --> 00:12:38,834 Speaker 4: But we'll be seeing more sort of asymmetric looks, draping, 273 00:12:38,994 --> 00:12:43,154 Speaker 4: deconstructed looks. So that's one thing with the anti princess bride. 274 00:12:43,394 --> 00:12:46,074 Speaker 4: Another one we'll be seeing is multiple fashion moments. So 275 00:12:46,434 --> 00:12:48,594 Speaker 4: I don't know, like I got married in twenty eighteen, 276 00:12:48,634 --> 00:12:49,554 Speaker 4: when did you get married? 277 00:12:50,394 --> 00:12:54,394 Speaker 3: I should know this off the Okay, take a lot 278 00:12:54,434 --> 00:12:55,074 Speaker 3: of millennials. 279 00:12:55,594 --> 00:12:56,394 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty two. 280 00:12:56,874 --> 00:13:00,994 Speaker 3: We really invested in the one dress, right, two looks. 281 00:13:00,674 --> 00:13:01,394 Speaker 2: Did you? Yeah? 282 00:13:01,474 --> 00:13:04,354 Speaker 1: I actually had a third that I didn't end up with. Yeah, 283 00:13:04,434 --> 00:13:07,554 Speaker 1: I know, right, yeah, No, I wanted to wear two 284 00:13:07,594 --> 00:13:10,194 Speaker 1: looks and my second was a two piece. Oh wow, 285 00:13:10,394 --> 00:13:12,874 Speaker 1: not lambskin leather with the top hat, but it was 286 00:13:12,914 --> 00:13:15,674 Speaker 1: like a more cat slightly more casual. We're also PARTI look. 287 00:13:16,154 --> 00:13:18,074 Speaker 4: Speaking of two piece is definitely going to be a 288 00:13:18,074 --> 00:13:21,954 Speaker 4: trend that we're seeing, more like a middiskirt version. But 289 00:13:22,314 --> 00:13:25,114 Speaker 4: Dannie l frankfl Farrer did a lot of two pieces. 290 00:13:25,154 --> 00:13:28,754 Speaker 4: Colors having a comeback as well within Flash, so colours 291 00:13:28,754 --> 00:13:33,234 Speaker 4: will be seeing is butter yellow, blush, pinks, reds, and 292 00:13:33,514 --> 00:13:37,074 Speaker 4: although Gabriette didn't quite touch on color. 293 00:13:36,994 --> 00:13:38,954 Speaker 1: I don't think that would have been her feet will. 294 00:13:38,874 --> 00:13:40,154 Speaker 3: Black I suppose was. 295 00:13:40,234 --> 00:13:43,714 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a colorpping outside of the normal usual bride realm. 296 00:13:43,994 --> 00:13:44,354 Speaker 3: But yeah. 297 00:13:44,474 --> 00:13:47,514 Speaker 4: Color, we saw a lot of almost like Jessica Vilia, 298 00:13:47,554 --> 00:13:49,714 Speaker 4: how she did that blush pink dress. That's what I'm 299 00:13:49,714 --> 00:13:52,114 Speaker 4: picturing without the whole princess bride look. 300 00:13:52,194 --> 00:13:52,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, like a. 301 00:13:52,714 --> 00:13:54,474 Speaker 1: Cool modern interpretation of color. 302 00:13:54,674 --> 00:13:57,154 Speaker 4: And then head pieces, so yeah, we've got the wide 303 00:13:57,154 --> 00:14:00,394 Speaker 4: brim hat like Juliefa. Oh yeah she had a hat, 304 00:14:00,594 --> 00:14:02,594 Speaker 4: and those beaded caps will be seen. 305 00:14:03,274 --> 00:14:05,394 Speaker 1: So yeah, you call a headband like I love like 306 00:14:05,434 --> 00:14:08,474 Speaker 1: a big you know, vel a headband or something like 307 00:14:08,514 --> 00:14:10,354 Speaker 1: that on a bride or an embellished one. 308 00:14:10,634 --> 00:14:13,354 Speaker 4: So in those back I know, but I do like 309 00:14:13,434 --> 00:14:15,994 Speaker 4: bridle as a category, like the low waist as well 310 00:14:16,114 --> 00:14:17,354 Speaker 4: she had with her maids. 311 00:14:17,634 --> 00:14:19,354 Speaker 1: I can see that being big. Yeah. 312 00:14:19,394 --> 00:14:22,314 Speaker 4: And then we've got the autumn Winter New York Bridal 313 00:14:22,314 --> 00:14:24,474 Speaker 4: fashion Week happening in October, so we could even touch 314 00:14:24,514 --> 00:14:25,274 Speaker 4: on that on the phone. 315 00:14:26,434 --> 00:14:31,154 Speaker 1: We will see, well she nailed it. Thanks for sharing, Gabrielle. 316 00:14:31,194 --> 00:14:32,154 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. 317 00:14:32,234 --> 00:14:32,434 Speaker 2: Yeah. 318 00:14:33,834 --> 00:14:38,074 Speaker 1: Speaking of celebrity weddings, shall we touch upon a spice 319 00:14:38,114 --> 00:14:41,074 Speaker 1: girl wedding that happened for our millennial audience. This is 320 00:14:41,114 --> 00:14:44,034 Speaker 1: a big moment. El C got married in Australia, So 321 00:14:44,154 --> 00:14:46,954 Speaker 1: sporty spice had a wedding to an Australian man. I 322 00:14:46,954 --> 00:14:48,074 Speaker 1: don't know anything about him. 323 00:14:48,194 --> 00:14:50,674 Speaker 3: Do you had no idea it was a trainer or 324 00:14:50,714 --> 00:14:52,514 Speaker 3: something or in Australia. 325 00:14:52,794 --> 00:14:55,474 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know where it happened. I don't know 326 00:14:55,514 --> 00:14:59,314 Speaker 1: the details, but I do know that she it was 327 00:14:59,394 --> 00:15:04,194 Speaker 1: here and she wore a Victoria Beckham dress and she 328 00:15:04,394 --> 00:15:07,994 Speaker 1: told vote she and Victoria spoke to Vogue again and 329 00:15:08,234 --> 00:15:10,954 Speaker 1: the way that this came about. Victoria couldn't be at 330 00:15:10,954 --> 00:15:12,634 Speaker 1: the wedding because she was at the World Cup with 331 00:15:12,674 --> 00:15:16,514 Speaker 1: her husband, so she wanted to be there in spirit. 332 00:15:16,914 --> 00:15:20,354 Speaker 1: Melcy had actually said that she ordered a Victoria Beckham 333 00:15:20,354 --> 00:15:23,354 Speaker 1: address but couldn't get it altered the one she wanted 334 00:15:23,354 --> 00:15:27,274 Speaker 1: altered in time. Victoria had that exact dress hanging in 335 00:15:27,354 --> 00:15:32,114 Speaker 1: her wardrobe, so she lent it to Melsie and she 336 00:15:32,154 --> 00:15:34,794 Speaker 1: wore it on the day. Like what I mean, do 337 00:15:34,834 --> 00:15:37,034 Speaker 1: you be first of all, you're a pr like you 338 00:15:37,354 --> 00:15:39,274 Speaker 1: understand what do you think that's true? 339 00:15:39,394 --> 00:15:41,914 Speaker 3: My head went there, but I do actually believe it. Yeah, 340 00:15:42,034 --> 00:15:43,634 Speaker 3: those friends is this like? 341 00:15:43,794 --> 00:15:45,794 Speaker 4: But I don't think she'd have any interest in doing 342 00:15:45,834 --> 00:15:47,354 Speaker 4: some like pr spin on this Like. 343 00:15:47,394 --> 00:15:49,554 Speaker 3: I just think they're mates. That's exactly right. 344 00:15:49,674 --> 00:15:50,394 Speaker 1: Evenly amazing. 345 00:15:50,474 --> 00:15:51,514 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that cool. 346 00:15:51,754 --> 00:15:54,034 Speaker 1: And it was like a slip an embellished slip dress, 347 00:15:54,074 --> 00:15:57,194 Speaker 1: which was beautiful and casual and really you know, form fitting, 348 00:15:57,274 --> 00:16:00,514 Speaker 1: and yeah, just I think very like if Gabriette was 349 00:16:00,594 --> 00:16:04,394 Speaker 1: the ott, like, you know, a big bridal moment. This 350 00:16:04,554 --> 00:16:08,154 Speaker 1: was very understated and elegant and just kind of cool, 351 00:16:08,234 --> 00:16:09,034 Speaker 1: casual bride. 352 00:16:09,154 --> 00:16:13,394 Speaker 4: We've had such big weddings, haven't we, celebrity weddings. 353 00:16:13,474 --> 00:16:18,554 Speaker 3: Yeah, I really do. I obsessed. 354 00:16:18,914 --> 00:16:22,034 Speaker 4: So on the topic of millennials, Tam, after the break, 355 00:16:22,034 --> 00:16:23,714 Speaker 4: I want to hear all about this term that you 356 00:16:23,794 --> 00:16:27,074 Speaker 4: told me about millennial ache, what that means, and also 357 00:16:27,114 --> 00:16:29,554 Speaker 4: these millennial sneakers that are having a comeback. 358 00:16:29,634 --> 00:16:30,234 Speaker 3: I'm scared. 359 00:16:30,994 --> 00:16:41,154 Speaker 2: We'll be right back after the break. 360 00:16:48,314 --> 00:16:49,994 Speaker 1: I want to talk about a term that I've been 361 00:16:50,034 --> 00:16:54,194 Speaker 1: seeing around a little bit. It's called millennial ache. And 362 00:16:54,314 --> 00:16:56,274 Speaker 1: let me break it down a bit first, because it 363 00:16:56,314 --> 00:16:58,314 Speaker 1: was new to me. It's something that I think ad 364 00:16:58,314 --> 00:17:02,234 Speaker 1: Week might have coined. Okay, So it's basically about how 365 00:17:02,434 --> 00:17:07,553 Speaker 1: jen Z specifically that demographic are longing for this analogue era, 366 00:17:07,874 --> 00:17:11,194 Speaker 1: the millennial era that they perhaps never experienced, or maybe 367 00:17:11,194 --> 00:17:15,714 Speaker 1: they only experienced through like an older sister adjacent to 368 00:17:16,114 --> 00:17:20,274 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, and it's about like yearning for this nostalgic 369 00:17:20,354 --> 00:17:22,874 Speaker 1: time when things were simpler. We were offline. I mean 370 00:17:22,914 --> 00:17:26,234 Speaker 1: we're millennials, right we are, so we were offline or 371 00:17:26,354 --> 00:17:28,674 Speaker 1: we were only kind of just starting to be online 372 00:17:28,674 --> 00:17:33,474 Speaker 1: in very sort of you know new ways MSN, Chat, Messenger, 373 00:17:33,594 --> 00:17:36,313 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, my Space the beginnings of that. But we 374 00:17:36,354 --> 00:17:38,954 Speaker 1: had our flip phones, we lived in our bedrooms, and 375 00:17:38,994 --> 00:17:41,914 Speaker 1: we were cutting out magazines and making collages and all 376 00:17:41,914 --> 00:17:44,834 Speaker 1: of that leads to a very sort of nostalgic look 377 00:17:44,874 --> 00:17:47,834 Speaker 1: and feel that gen Z are wanting to tap into. 378 00:17:47,954 --> 00:17:51,114 Speaker 1: And basically Adwik was saying that smart brands now are 379 00:17:51,114 --> 00:17:55,754 Speaker 1: tapping into that and creating marketing campaigns and buzz and 380 00:17:55,914 --> 00:17:59,154 Speaker 1: using that to sell products. And something that I want 381 00:17:59,154 --> 00:18:01,754 Speaker 1: to bring to the pod because it's had a huge 382 00:18:01,834 --> 00:18:04,194 Speaker 1: sort of cultural moment in the past few weeks, is 383 00:18:04,234 --> 00:18:08,273 Speaker 1: the Hailey bieber Denim collaboration with Gap. And this is 384 00:18:08,354 --> 00:18:11,474 Speaker 1: like the millennial age in a nutshell, right, So in 385 00:18:11,474 --> 00:18:13,314 Speaker 1: case you missed it, you probably didn't, But in case 386 00:18:13,354 --> 00:18:16,314 Speaker 1: you missed it, Hailey Beebel was revealed as the new 387 00:18:16,634 --> 00:18:19,914 Speaker 1: face of Gap, and specifically she worked on a collection 388 00:18:20,154 --> 00:18:24,834 Speaker 1: with Gap two pieces denim right in different colourways. There 389 00:18:24,914 --> 00:18:27,594 Speaker 1: was a wider leg jean and there was a straighter 390 00:18:27,794 --> 00:18:32,034 Speaker 1: geen I believe, two styles. And it was revealed through 391 00:18:32,074 --> 00:18:35,554 Speaker 1: social media with this great campaign where basically you see 392 00:18:35,554 --> 00:18:39,514 Speaker 1: an old school CD player and you see Haley come 393 00:18:39,514 --> 00:18:42,954 Speaker 1: and switch it on and the Cranberry starts playing Linger 394 00:18:42,994 --> 00:18:46,513 Speaker 1: from the Cranberry's iconic song starts playing. She's sitting in 395 00:18:46,554 --> 00:18:48,954 Speaker 1: a clear bubble chair. I think we all had one 396 00:18:48,954 --> 00:18:52,313 Speaker 1: of those, sitting in a clear chair. She sort of 397 00:18:52,354 --> 00:18:55,154 Speaker 1: turns around and she goes and tries on these jeans 398 00:18:55,234 --> 00:18:58,474 Speaker 1: in her what feels like her bedroom, and then I 399 00:18:58,474 --> 00:19:00,834 Speaker 1: think she see her like sign her signature or something 400 00:19:00,914 --> 00:19:04,514 Speaker 1: like that. But the genes themselves have Hailey's signature sewn 401 00:19:04,594 --> 00:19:08,114 Speaker 1: into the back pocket. And it's nineteen ninety six is 402 00:19:08,234 --> 00:19:10,114 Speaker 1: the name of the collection, I think, And it's about 403 00:19:10,154 --> 00:19:12,394 Speaker 1: the year that Haley was born, and it's about an 404 00:19:12,554 --> 00:19:15,714 Speaker 1: iconic era for Gap, right, And people are saying, this 405 00:19:15,874 --> 00:19:18,994 Speaker 1: is really, you know, a really smart move for Gap 406 00:19:19,034 --> 00:19:22,314 Speaker 1: to kind of own this this time and this sort 407 00:19:22,354 --> 00:19:23,954 Speaker 1: of space right now. 408 00:19:23,914 --> 00:19:27,234 Speaker 4: Yo, because Gap do incredible things, right I'm just thinking 409 00:19:27,274 --> 00:19:30,954 Speaker 4: they've always got that heritage being in a heritage American brand, 410 00:19:31,354 --> 00:19:34,674 Speaker 4: but they're sort of seen as the outlet brand, right, 411 00:19:34,754 --> 00:19:37,554 Speaker 4: that sort of outlet store like they've kind of would 412 00:19:37,554 --> 00:19:38,234 Speaker 4: you agree with that? 413 00:19:38,354 --> 00:19:41,234 Speaker 1: Well, I think recently they've had a real resurgence since 414 00:19:41,274 --> 00:19:44,553 Speaker 1: they hired Zach. They hired the designer, Zach Posen to 415 00:19:44,594 --> 00:19:46,834 Speaker 1: be I believe, the creative director, so that was sort 416 00:19:46,874 --> 00:19:50,194 Speaker 1: of the first step in reimagining what the brand could be. 417 00:19:50,554 --> 00:19:54,234 Speaker 1: Then they've done great collaborations with Cat's Eye, and there 418 00:19:54,354 --> 00:19:55,273 Speaker 1: was who else did. 419 00:19:55,154 --> 00:19:59,314 Speaker 4: Kendal Jenna, They did Gweneth Peltrow, and they did Kendall 420 00:19:59,354 --> 00:20:02,554 Speaker 4: and Victoria Beckham recently, but the whole brands had this 421 00:20:02,674 --> 00:20:07,634 Speaker 4: like revival, right, So yeah, choosing Halle Beaver, incredible marketing 422 00:20:07,714 --> 00:20:10,793 Speaker 4: campaign which I love. This was only in the US, 423 00:20:11,114 --> 00:20:13,154 Speaker 4: but they're on stock x. You can buy them here 424 00:20:13,154 --> 00:20:14,074 Speaker 4: in Australia and buy. 425 00:20:13,954 --> 00:20:16,874 Speaker 1: The genes and that we should say the genes sold 426 00:20:16,874 --> 00:20:18,754 Speaker 1: out in a hot minute, like they were gone in 427 00:20:18,754 --> 00:20:21,874 Speaker 1: a flash. People were racing out to get these styles. 428 00:20:21,914 --> 00:20:24,514 Speaker 1: People were doing. You know, there were heaps of tiktoks 429 00:20:24,554 --> 00:20:27,634 Speaker 1: and instagrams on the jeans. I want to just pause 430 00:20:27,634 --> 00:20:29,714 Speaker 1: for a minute on millennial Ache, just to we're going 431 00:20:29,754 --> 00:20:30,594 Speaker 1: to get further into that. 432 00:20:30,674 --> 00:20:31,194 Speaker 3: But do you think you. 433 00:20:31,194 --> 00:20:31,994 Speaker 1: Would have bought them? 434 00:20:32,234 --> 00:20:34,954 Speaker 4: I wanted to because Hailey's name was on it, and 435 00:20:34,994 --> 00:20:37,114 Speaker 4: we could talk about that later and how she's a 436 00:20:37,114 --> 00:20:39,313 Speaker 4: bit of a safe bet commercially. But yeah, no, they 437 00:20:39,354 --> 00:20:42,834 Speaker 4: weren't necessarily the wide leg It's not something I was 438 00:20:42,874 --> 00:20:45,354 Speaker 4: like desperately wanting. Yeah, and I think there were two 439 00:20:45,434 --> 00:20:47,394 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars on stock X. I was like, no, 440 00:20:47,514 --> 00:20:51,513 Speaker 4: I'm okay, whereas the Victoria Beck and Ones I wanted okay. 441 00:20:51,714 --> 00:20:51,954 Speaker 3: Yeah. 442 00:20:52,314 --> 00:20:55,034 Speaker 1: It's interesting because, like you said, Haley is a safe bet, 443 00:20:55,194 --> 00:20:58,394 Speaker 1: you know, to drive a style like that. It's genius 444 00:20:58,434 --> 00:21:01,594 Speaker 1: from a marketing perspective. I love that they just did 445 00:21:01,634 --> 00:21:04,034 Speaker 1: a small quantity. They didn't do a full collection. They 446 00:21:04,074 --> 00:21:06,314 Speaker 1: just did this one gene knowing that it would sell through. 447 00:21:06,474 --> 00:21:09,274 Speaker 4: I guess like in terms of the economy right now, 448 00:21:09,314 --> 00:21:12,674 Speaker 4: it is a safe bet to be using Hailey right Like, 449 00:21:12,874 --> 00:21:15,754 Speaker 4: public sentiment is very high for Hailey. 450 00:21:16,154 --> 00:21:18,394 Speaker 3: Imagine using there's no risk involved there. 451 00:21:18,554 --> 00:21:21,354 Speaker 1: No, and Hailey as well, just coming back to this term, 452 00:21:21,434 --> 00:21:25,634 Speaker 1: this millennial ache, she is really interesting because there's very 453 00:21:25,634 --> 00:21:29,874 Speaker 1: few celebrities I think with her sort of fashion cachet 454 00:21:30,114 --> 00:21:33,714 Speaker 1: to cross over the millennial and the gen z market. See, 455 00:21:33,754 --> 00:21:37,074 Speaker 1: she manages to capture both. Right, we love her as 456 00:21:37,114 --> 00:21:39,994 Speaker 1: millennials and we want to be her. Jen Zed aspire 457 00:21:40,074 --> 00:21:42,874 Speaker 1: to be like her, So she manages to speak to 458 00:21:42,954 --> 00:21:47,114 Speaker 1: both markets. So that's why she is such a safe person. 459 00:21:47,074 --> 00:21:52,434 Speaker 4: Aspirational yet relatable. Like she's incredibly beautiful. But what I 460 00:21:52,554 --> 00:21:54,833 Speaker 4: love about Hailey she's had Jack. I don't know how 461 00:21:55,034 --> 00:21:56,273 Speaker 4: Jack is now one or two years off. 462 00:21:56,434 --> 00:21:59,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, she speaks to our generation that might be starting 463 00:21:59,194 --> 00:22:02,394 Speaker 1: to have kids. But she also can sell product. Do 464 00:22:02,434 --> 00:22:04,474 Speaker 1: you know if you look at road beauty I know 465 00:22:04,474 --> 00:22:07,754 Speaker 1: we're a fashion podcast. Brief segue into beauty code is 466 00:22:07,834 --> 00:22:11,074 Speaker 1: marketable for all ages, right. There are women buying that 467 00:22:11,114 --> 00:22:13,754 Speaker 1: in their midlife. There are women buying that when they're 468 00:22:13,754 --> 00:22:16,194 Speaker 1: just starting to purchase beauty products in their coming out 469 00:22:16,194 --> 00:22:20,273 Speaker 1: of their teens. So it's provides access and aspiration at 470 00:22:20,314 --> 00:22:22,914 Speaker 1: an accessible prispect, which is why gap was such a 471 00:22:22,954 --> 00:22:23,474 Speaker 1: smart move. 472 00:22:23,714 --> 00:22:25,994 Speaker 4: So true, it's a little bit like have you seen 473 00:22:26,034 --> 00:22:29,794 Speaker 4: the sub el Ferguson collaboration here on home Soil in Australia. 474 00:22:29,994 --> 00:22:33,234 Speaker 4: I did see this across my feen, so that's actually 475 00:22:33,554 --> 00:22:36,794 Speaker 4: available now. It's a recent collaboration sub the den and 476 00:22:36,914 --> 00:22:41,114 Speaker 4: brand has partnered with our mega Australian influencer el Ferguson. 477 00:22:40,834 --> 00:22:43,434 Speaker 1: And I think Subie is also like, that's a millennial 478 00:22:43,474 --> 00:22:46,154 Speaker 1: brand that's had a revival lately. And they've tapped L 479 00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:50,274 Speaker 1: in a very similar way to get tapping Haley Bib. 480 00:22:50,274 --> 00:22:52,394 Speaker 3: And they've actually used L before Sube. 481 00:22:52,634 --> 00:22:55,954 Speaker 4: So this is almost volume two doing another collection, so 482 00:22:55,994 --> 00:23:00,194 Speaker 4: it was almost right. So it's interesting, just safe bets 483 00:23:00,274 --> 00:23:05,634 Speaker 4: using well known, well liked people creating safe collections. 484 00:23:05,674 --> 00:23:09,114 Speaker 1: I suppose Mail's are millennial, that's right. Yeah, I love this, 485 00:23:09,234 --> 00:23:11,273 Speaker 1: I really you know what I think is so funny 486 00:23:11,274 --> 00:23:15,954 Speaker 1: about this. As a fashion reporter, I've been writing articles 487 00:23:15,994 --> 00:23:19,674 Speaker 1: for years now about gen Z canceling millennial trends. Like 488 00:23:19,754 --> 00:23:22,793 Speaker 1: it was side parts and it was skinny jeans, and 489 00:23:22,834 --> 00:23:25,354 Speaker 1: now they're coming for our shoes and they're coming for 490 00:23:25,434 --> 00:23:31,874 Speaker 1: our blazers, the millennial pool. Right, what's that one? 491 00:23:31,994 --> 00:23:32,114 Speaker 2: Oh? 492 00:23:32,314 --> 00:23:34,754 Speaker 4: Just like we delayed, so we're not used to like 493 00:23:34,874 --> 00:23:38,074 Speaker 4: the instant talking. We delay before we start, we press record, 494 00:23:38,474 --> 00:23:41,513 Speaker 4: wait to see the light and then start talking Oh okay. 495 00:23:41,314 --> 00:23:43,714 Speaker 3: So pausing the millennial pout as well. 496 00:23:43,874 --> 00:23:45,954 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the power Yeah yeah yeah. But you know, 497 00:23:46,554 --> 00:23:49,554 Speaker 1: so the millennial tuck. I wrote a whole article about 498 00:23:49,554 --> 00:23:51,754 Speaker 1: how we're not allowed to tuck in our our knits 499 00:23:51,794 --> 00:23:54,394 Speaker 1: into our pants anymore and our T shirts. I'm sorry, 500 00:23:54,394 --> 00:23:55,033 Speaker 1: that's the hill. 501 00:23:54,914 --> 00:23:55,394 Speaker 3: I'll die on. 502 00:23:55,714 --> 00:23:58,194 Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing that forever. But I think 503 00:23:58,194 --> 00:24:01,834 Speaker 1: it's so funny that gen Zed was canceling everything about 504 00:24:01,914 --> 00:24:02,874 Speaker 1: us for a couple of years. 505 00:24:02,914 --> 00:24:03,914 Speaker 3: And you know what I mean. 506 00:24:04,274 --> 00:24:06,754 Speaker 1: Now it's all about the ache turn to tap into 507 00:24:06,794 --> 00:24:10,554 Speaker 1: Millenni lifestyle and rituals and the things that made our 508 00:24:10,634 --> 00:24:13,394 Speaker 1: ear iconic. I'm just really glad we're getting our moment. 509 00:24:13,634 --> 00:24:15,634 Speaker 3: Okay, So I love a sneaker. 510 00:24:16,074 --> 00:24:19,194 Speaker 4: Can you tell me about the millennial sneaker that's having 511 00:24:19,194 --> 00:24:19,794 Speaker 4: a comeback? 512 00:24:20,594 --> 00:24:25,874 Speaker 1: This is iconic. So I mean at school, talking millennials, 513 00:24:25,914 --> 00:24:30,874 Speaker 1: we all wore like Vans. Superba was a big one, right, 514 00:24:30,954 --> 00:24:35,154 Speaker 1: remember these sneakers, like a white canvas sneakery. It's been 515 00:24:35,354 --> 00:24:39,514 Speaker 1: chunky sneakers. It's been your new Balance, your Salomon's hiking sneakers, 516 00:24:39,554 --> 00:24:42,114 Speaker 1: all of these. But we're coming back, you know how 517 00:24:42,394 --> 00:24:44,914 Speaker 1: sneakers have been getting like lower and lower to the ground. 518 00:24:44,954 --> 00:24:47,914 Speaker 1: This sort of low profile shape has been coming back. 519 00:24:47,914 --> 00:24:49,834 Speaker 1: I mean, you're a sneakerhead, you know more about this 520 00:24:49,914 --> 00:24:54,033 Speaker 1: than me. But we're reaching the kind of logical end point, 521 00:24:54,194 --> 00:24:58,594 Speaker 1: the final boss of the low sneaker, which is the 522 00:24:58,794 --> 00:25:04,234 Speaker 1: return to the original like canvas white climsul This is happening, 523 00:25:04,594 --> 00:25:06,674 Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying this, Like I was kind 524 00:25:06,674 --> 00:25:08,714 Speaker 1: of noticed seeing this and seeing rumblings of it. But 525 00:25:08,754 --> 00:25:11,954 Speaker 1: then I saw some reporting across different websites. I saw 526 00:25:11,994 --> 00:25:14,874 Speaker 1: The Times reported, I saw Vogue report it. So we're 527 00:25:14,914 --> 00:25:17,994 Speaker 1: gonna have like a a kid's summer. 528 00:25:18,274 --> 00:25:20,714 Speaker 4: Yeah, can you believe it isn't funny like you were 529 00:25:20,714 --> 00:25:23,553 Speaker 4: saying like it just the profile was getting lower and lower. 530 00:25:23,594 --> 00:25:26,194 Speaker 3: The pendulum has completed its swim. 531 00:25:26,034 --> 00:25:28,434 Speaker 1: It has this is a tennis shoe. 532 00:25:28,554 --> 00:25:30,474 Speaker 3: Yeah, lops. Actually it's done. 533 00:25:30,474 --> 00:25:33,914 Speaker 1: Lot follies. Oh that was man, You have just unlocked 534 00:25:33,914 --> 00:25:35,834 Speaker 1: something in my like tween brain. 535 00:25:37,274 --> 00:25:39,474 Speaker 3: In these shoes, they was so cool for a. 536 00:25:39,434 --> 00:25:41,994 Speaker 1: Minute, there weren't they. And then I remember in like 537 00:25:42,154 --> 00:25:46,234 Speaker 1: the naughties, like mid naughties, it was the superbos because 538 00:25:46,274 --> 00:25:49,794 Speaker 1: like Alexi Chung was wearing them and then we had 539 00:25:49,914 --> 00:25:53,834 Speaker 1: of course Converse all Stars. Did you wear like I 540 00:25:53,874 --> 00:25:55,394 Speaker 1: feel like you were one or the other. Did you 541 00:25:55,394 --> 00:25:57,033 Speaker 1: wear the high tops or the low tops? 542 00:25:57,274 --> 00:26:00,514 Speaker 3: I think I tried doing high tops, but it was yeah, 543 00:26:00,554 --> 00:26:01,634 Speaker 3: they didn't. I didn't suit me. 544 00:26:01,834 --> 00:26:03,634 Speaker 1: Yes, same. Do you think they'll come back? 545 00:26:03,914 --> 00:26:05,034 Speaker 3: I think everything does. 546 00:26:05,114 --> 00:26:05,274 Speaker 2: Yeah. 547 00:26:05,314 --> 00:26:07,594 Speaker 4: Because yet they say with shoes in terms of that 548 00:26:07,754 --> 00:26:09,594 Speaker 4: we always do about cyclical fashion. 549 00:26:10,154 --> 00:26:10,874 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 550 00:26:11,114 --> 00:26:13,714 Speaker 4: They normally say it's about a four to six year 551 00:26:13,794 --> 00:26:16,474 Speaker 4: trend cycle within shoes, so it's a bit longer than 552 00:26:16,514 --> 00:26:19,914 Speaker 4: within just fashion. They say that bags, shoes and denim, 553 00:26:19,954 --> 00:26:22,274 Speaker 4: it's a longer trend cycle. And I guess because you're 554 00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:25,273 Speaker 4: wearing the more you get more wearability. 555 00:26:24,594 --> 00:26:25,514 Speaker 3: Out of them. I suppose. 556 00:26:25,914 --> 00:26:27,954 Speaker 4: But don't you think it has taken around four or 557 00:26:27,954 --> 00:26:31,914 Speaker 4: five years. We did have that big, chunky loafer and 558 00:26:31,954 --> 00:26:34,793 Speaker 4: it has taken roughly about four or five years to 559 00:26:34,834 --> 00:26:38,194 Speaker 4: get down to like the lowest slim. It's not even 560 00:26:38,194 --> 00:26:40,754 Speaker 4: a sneaker anymore. It's more a ballet flat that a sneaker. 561 00:26:41,194 --> 00:26:42,513 Speaker 4: Let's talk about out of the ground. 562 00:26:42,634 --> 00:26:45,874 Speaker 1: Why that's happened. So some of the sort of forces 563 00:26:45,914 --> 00:26:49,434 Speaker 1: behind this. One of the big ones is Selene under 564 00:26:49,594 --> 00:26:53,234 Speaker 1: the new creative director Michael ryder So at one of 565 00:26:53,274 --> 00:26:54,994 Speaker 1: the recent runway shows. I want to say it was 566 00:26:55,034 --> 00:26:58,674 Speaker 1: Spring Summer twenty twenty six. Maybe check me on that, 567 00:26:58,794 --> 00:27:02,674 Speaker 1: but anyway, for his recent runway collections, he's been showing 568 00:27:02,954 --> 00:27:07,114 Speaker 1: these white leather They're not even like sneakers. They're more 569 00:27:07,274 --> 00:27:11,034 Speaker 1: like a jazz shoe. They're like a leather plimsle basically. 570 00:27:11,354 --> 00:27:13,313 Speaker 1: And I remember when I saw these on the runway, 571 00:27:13,354 --> 00:27:15,594 Speaker 1: they felt a little bit jarring. I was like ugh, 572 00:27:15,714 --> 00:27:18,954 Speaker 1: and then I was like oh, and then I was like, oh, 573 00:27:18,994 --> 00:27:21,513 Speaker 1: like this is this is new, this is going to 574 00:27:21,554 --> 00:27:23,994 Speaker 1: be a thing. And then all the fashion reporting was 575 00:27:24,034 --> 00:27:26,514 Speaker 1: talking about from the shows was talking about these shoes 576 00:27:26,594 --> 00:27:30,394 Speaker 1: how fresh they felt, because if fashion critics and reporters 577 00:27:30,434 --> 00:27:33,354 Speaker 1: love anything, it's like a new thing. It's like, oh, 578 00:27:33,394 --> 00:27:35,874 Speaker 1: we're doing this now. And then there was Prata. I 579 00:27:35,874 --> 00:27:39,513 Speaker 1: think Spring summer twenty six also showed white canvas sneakers, 580 00:27:39,874 --> 00:27:43,994 Speaker 1: and that's where the traction began. Phoebe Philo has been 581 00:27:44,034 --> 00:27:48,114 Speaker 1: showing these sort of plim soul esque sneakers or these 582 00:27:48,194 --> 00:27:51,354 Speaker 1: actually more like Vans inspired sneakers for a while. 583 00:27:51,434 --> 00:27:53,434 Speaker 4: I love how you said the word jarring, because they 584 00:27:53,474 --> 00:27:56,674 Speaker 4: are even like the speedcats or the sneak a readers 585 00:27:56,714 --> 00:27:59,434 Speaker 4: that we were seeing, they've slowly made their way down. 586 00:27:59,474 --> 00:28:00,834 Speaker 3: They have been jarring and now. 587 00:28:00,714 --> 00:28:03,594 Speaker 4: Looking at the Selene or Phoebe Filoy like, ooh, that's strange, 588 00:28:03,634 --> 00:28:05,634 Speaker 4: almost like a boxer shoe. I actually liked how you 589 00:28:05,674 --> 00:28:09,034 Speaker 4: called it a jazz shoe, the jas shoes we were. 590 00:28:08,874 --> 00:28:10,033 Speaker 3: Growing up doing dance. 591 00:28:10,314 --> 00:28:12,914 Speaker 4: But yeah, they are jarring, but they will become the norm. 592 00:28:13,074 --> 00:28:14,793 Speaker 4: This is this is this is it, this has happening. 593 00:28:14,834 --> 00:28:15,874 Speaker 1: How you're gonna wear them? 594 00:28:16,114 --> 00:28:21,994 Speaker 3: Probably? I love a trend at this moment. 595 00:28:22,114 --> 00:28:26,234 Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels interesting, and I think you're either a 596 00:28:26,394 --> 00:28:28,754 Speaker 4: like I've actually got some Derby shoes that I'm bringing 597 00:28:28,794 --> 00:28:31,114 Speaker 4: later to the pod in bougie de budget sort of 598 00:28:31,154 --> 00:28:34,034 Speaker 4: like you know, you've got your plim soul Derby shoe 599 00:28:34,074 --> 00:28:39,314 Speaker 4: just another word or style of low profile, thin variation 600 00:28:39,354 --> 00:28:39,794 Speaker 4: of a shoe. 601 00:28:39,874 --> 00:28:41,634 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, do you know I think if I'm going 602 00:28:41,714 --> 00:28:45,714 Speaker 1: to wear any of them, I would go back to, like, yeah, 603 00:28:45,754 --> 00:28:50,554 Speaker 1: like a slip on Van's shoe like a skate shoe. 604 00:28:50,954 --> 00:28:53,354 Speaker 1: In a fashioning way. I can see that Vans is 605 00:28:53,394 --> 00:28:55,674 Speaker 1: on a bit of a generational run right now. Like 606 00:28:55,714 --> 00:28:59,394 Speaker 1: they've been doing some really cool stuff I've seen coming 607 00:28:59,434 --> 00:29:01,554 Speaker 1: out of Like some of the creators I follow that 608 00:29:01,634 --> 00:29:03,634 Speaker 1: do like sneaker reporting and that sort of thing, have 609 00:29:03,714 --> 00:29:07,714 Speaker 1: been talking about Vans really cool designs on the sho shoes, 610 00:29:08,234 --> 00:29:11,594 Speaker 1: not like stripped back, like interesting patterns, embellishment, that kind 611 00:29:11,634 --> 00:29:13,634 Speaker 1: of thing. I think Vans is about to come up again. 612 00:29:13,714 --> 00:29:16,274 Speaker 4: So you'll do Vans, I reckon I would. I think 613 00:29:16,314 --> 00:29:18,074 Speaker 4: I'll do the converse all stars. 614 00:29:18,154 --> 00:29:22,074 Speaker 1: I think, Okay, well let's see, let's meet back here 615 00:29:22,074 --> 00:29:24,434 Speaker 1: and confer in a few weeks and see what we're wearing. 616 00:29:24,514 --> 00:29:26,394 Speaker 3: And I just make a prediction. Actually, you mentioned the 617 00:29:26,474 --> 00:29:27,114 Speaker 3: high tops. 618 00:29:27,194 --> 00:29:29,434 Speaker 4: I think when the pendulum starts to sweek, so in 619 00:29:29,474 --> 00:29:31,914 Speaker 4: four or five years, we'll be talking about high chops again. 620 00:29:31,994 --> 00:29:33,274 Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to take that long? 621 00:29:33,434 --> 00:29:33,794 Speaker 4: Rah? 622 00:29:34,474 --> 00:29:36,674 Speaker 1: Yeah, it Margo Robbie who wore something. 623 00:29:37,154 --> 00:29:41,234 Speaker 4: He said that, I'm talking like Nike high Tops, not Converse, 624 00:29:41,314 --> 00:29:42,834 Speaker 4: but that any sort of variation. 625 00:29:42,994 --> 00:29:44,754 Speaker 3: I know what you're going to go back to. 626 00:29:45,034 --> 00:29:47,434 Speaker 1: Well, maybe Margot will expedite things and will take a 627 00:29:47,514 --> 00:29:51,154 Speaker 1: couple less years. We will see, as it will keep 628 00:29:51,194 --> 00:29:51,794 Speaker 1: you posted. 629 00:29:52,434 --> 00:29:55,914 Speaker 4: So do you remember the nostalgic brand, Kate's Fade. 630 00:29:56,274 --> 00:29:59,154 Speaker 1: Yeah, I do know the name. The name is quite iconic, 631 00:29:59,194 --> 00:30:00,954 Speaker 1: but all it kind of conjuous for me is like 632 00:30:01,914 --> 00:30:06,434 Speaker 1: girly printed tote bags and maybe like scarves and things. 633 00:30:06,474 --> 00:30:09,394 Speaker 4: That's right, it was. It's very like Upper east Side, 634 00:30:09,434 --> 00:30:11,434 Speaker 4: New York. The late Kate Dear Kate. 635 00:30:11,314 --> 00:30:12,314 Speaker 1: Space giving gossip. 636 00:30:12,434 --> 00:30:13,714 Speaker 3: It's giving gossip girl. 637 00:30:13,954 --> 00:30:19,074 Speaker 4: Created these beautiful, quirky bags and they created this incredible brand, 638 00:30:19,154 --> 00:30:20,954 Speaker 4: but it's sort of got off the radar the past 639 00:30:20,994 --> 00:30:22,594 Speaker 4: sort of ten years or so, so I really just 640 00:30:22,594 --> 00:30:24,914 Speaker 4: wanted to quickly ring to Mike. The Kate Spade has 641 00:30:24,914 --> 00:30:28,034 Speaker 4: now appointed Jonathan Saunders as the creative director. 642 00:30:28,834 --> 00:30:33,994 Speaker 1: Wow, Jonathan's Saunders is quite like a revered name in fashion. 643 00:30:34,234 --> 00:30:37,394 Speaker 4: He was off the radar as well, right, hen't. He's amazing. 644 00:30:37,434 --> 00:30:38,074 Speaker 4: He's incredible. 645 00:30:38,114 --> 00:30:40,994 Speaker 3: He's actually Scottish, but he's a really well known UK designer. 646 00:30:41,434 --> 00:30:45,114 Speaker 3: He's worked with and other stories. He was at Alexander McQueen. 647 00:30:45,154 --> 00:30:50,234 Speaker 1: Calvin Klein, Poucci, a few other names. Yeah, he's known 648 00:30:50,274 --> 00:30:52,714 Speaker 1: for Prince predominantly, Yes. 649 00:30:52,674 --> 00:30:56,394 Speaker 4: Doing that silk print, really beautiful looks. I thought with McQueen, 650 00:30:56,514 --> 00:31:00,154 Speaker 4: he didn't actually do that skull iconic McQueen's skull print scarf. 651 00:31:00,234 --> 00:31:02,514 Speaker 1: It was a it was like a bird of Paradise. 652 00:31:05,034 --> 00:31:08,394 Speaker 4: It was a twenty twenty three Somemer Birds of Paradise 653 00:31:08,434 --> 00:31:12,194 Speaker 4: collection was his print. Yeah, so he's got a really 654 00:31:12,234 --> 00:31:15,514 Speaker 4: incredible resume. But he's newly been appointed with Kate Spade, 655 00:31:15,514 --> 00:31:18,274 Speaker 4: which is incredible news for the brand because it sort 656 00:31:18,274 --> 00:31:21,034 Speaker 4: of went sort of it was forgotten for a little while. 657 00:31:21,234 --> 00:31:24,194 Speaker 4: And what I find interesting about that is Kate Spade 658 00:31:24,354 --> 00:31:26,994 Speaker 4: was the creative director up until two thousand and six. 659 00:31:27,074 --> 00:31:28,354 Speaker 3: Tragically she passed away. 660 00:31:28,794 --> 00:31:31,914 Speaker 4: But then they got Devorah Lloyd, a female creative directory 661 00:31:31,914 --> 00:31:34,954 Speaker 4: and who I love. She's from Banana Republic and Birbery. 662 00:31:35,354 --> 00:31:37,834 Speaker 4: She did incredible things with the brand. But then the 663 00:31:37,954 --> 00:31:42,434 Speaker 4: brand was taken over by Tapestry, who also owned Coach. 664 00:31:42,794 --> 00:31:45,834 Speaker 4: They purchased the brand for two point four billion dollars 665 00:31:46,314 --> 00:31:47,634 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. 666 00:31:48,074 --> 00:31:51,274 Speaker 1: That's quite a big gamble, isn't it ye money brand? 667 00:31:51,274 --> 00:31:54,114 Speaker 4: For what was really interesting about this story, they decided 668 00:31:54,154 --> 00:31:56,834 Speaker 4: to have no creative director. So there's been no creative 669 00:31:56,834 --> 00:31:59,274 Speaker 4: director for six years with Kate Spade, and I think 670 00:31:59,274 --> 00:32:01,914 Speaker 4: that answers why it feels like it's a forgotten brand. 671 00:32:02,354 --> 00:32:04,594 Speaker 4: They left it up to the in house designers to 672 00:32:04,634 --> 00:32:06,754 Speaker 4: sort of work together and work on the brand. 673 00:32:07,194 --> 00:32:09,874 Speaker 1: Lacked leadership or like a focus. 674 00:32:10,234 --> 00:32:10,954 Speaker 3: Yeah. 675 00:32:10,994 --> 00:32:14,714 Speaker 4: So having now Jonathan Saunders at the Helm as creative director, 676 00:32:14,754 --> 00:32:16,434 Speaker 4: it's going to be really exciting to see where Kate 677 00:32:16,514 --> 00:32:20,234 Speaker 4: Space goes a bit of a revival, yeah, and online 678 00:32:20,354 --> 00:32:22,994 Speaker 4: public sentiments really exciting. There's been a little bit around 679 00:32:23,034 --> 00:32:26,314 Speaker 4: why could we have a female creative director, But all 680 00:32:26,314 --> 00:32:29,394 Speaker 4: in all, they're excited to see the quirkiness come back. 681 00:32:29,434 --> 00:32:31,474 Speaker 4: I think it was quite commercialized for a while. 682 00:32:31,594 --> 00:32:34,114 Speaker 1: Well maybe you can follow the coach playbook of you know, 683 00:32:34,154 --> 00:32:37,314 Speaker 1: being fresh and new and attractive to a younger market again. 684 00:32:37,714 --> 00:32:40,554 Speaker 3: Because they have had such a comeback, haven't mayde indeed? 685 00:32:40,674 --> 00:32:43,874 Speaker 4: And being owned by Tapestry, I guess that's what they've 686 00:32:43,874 --> 00:32:45,034 Speaker 4: got in mind, right. 687 00:32:44,834 --> 00:32:46,794 Speaker 1: They've invested. Let's see where it goes. 688 00:32:46,914 --> 00:32:50,034 Speaker 4: Yeah, so watch this space all right, So stick around 689 00:32:50,074 --> 00:32:52,754 Speaker 4: because after the break, we have Bougie to Budget where 690 00:32:52,794 --> 00:32:55,594 Speaker 4: we both bring an item and look at three variations 691 00:32:55,634 --> 00:32:56,274 Speaker 4: in pricewood. 692 00:33:14,274 --> 00:33:18,314 Speaker 3: It's very expensive. How wondred percent? 693 00:33:19,674 --> 00:33:21,714 Speaker 4: All right, tam So Bougie to budget, tell me what 694 00:33:21,754 --> 00:33:23,034 Speaker 4: have you brought to the pot today. 695 00:33:23,434 --> 00:33:25,994 Speaker 1: I have been looking for something that I can wear 696 00:33:26,034 --> 00:33:28,554 Speaker 1: that's not jeans. I'm getting a bit fatigued by them. 697 00:33:28,594 --> 00:33:32,474 Speaker 1: And all the cool girls I'm seeing are wearing cargo pants. 698 00:33:32,834 --> 00:33:34,794 Speaker 1: And I'd like to say, like cargoes not as you 699 00:33:34,834 --> 00:33:36,634 Speaker 1: know them, but it really is as you know them. 700 00:33:36,714 --> 00:33:41,834 Speaker 1: It's like a true utility pant, like a proper car 701 00:33:41,954 --> 00:33:44,554 Speaker 1: ky pockets sort of situations. 702 00:33:44,714 --> 00:33:49,034 Speaker 3: A full on millennial episode, isn't it I used to love. 703 00:33:49,434 --> 00:33:51,874 Speaker 1: We just keep coming back there, don't It feels really 704 00:33:51,914 --> 00:33:54,874 Speaker 1: safe for me? Yes, So I want to talk about 705 00:33:54,914 --> 00:33:58,314 Speaker 1: cool cargos, and I love this style. I think, you know, 706 00:33:58,394 --> 00:34:00,514 Speaker 1: I think it's just a really inclusive style of pant 707 00:34:00,554 --> 00:34:02,434 Speaker 1: as well. I've seen like women of all shapes and 708 00:34:02,434 --> 00:34:05,354 Speaker 1: sizes wearing this pant and absolutely rocking them. So I've 709 00:34:05,354 --> 00:34:07,314 Speaker 1: got three options for you. I'm going to start with 710 00:34:07,354 --> 00:34:10,953 Speaker 1: a really affordable pair I've found from Next. They are 711 00:34:11,074 --> 00:34:14,794 Speaker 1: the khaki green barrel leg cargo trousers and they're sixty 712 00:34:14,834 --> 00:34:17,794 Speaker 1: five dollars, which is a great rice point. These are 713 00:34:17,834 --> 00:34:20,674 Speaker 1: like a light green sort of sage color, not a 714 00:34:20,714 --> 00:34:23,954 Speaker 1: true khaki, and there are a barrel cut but quite 715 00:34:24,034 --> 00:34:27,714 Speaker 1: streamlined with pockets. This is a really great silhouette that 716 00:34:27,714 --> 00:34:30,274 Speaker 1: would suit anyone. They actually have a great size range 717 00:34:30,274 --> 00:34:32,154 Speaker 1: in these. They go up to a size twenty with 718 00:34:32,274 --> 00:34:35,554 Speaker 1: a tall range as well for those longer legged ladies. 719 00:34:35,674 --> 00:34:39,634 Speaker 1: Lucky you. So yeah, sixty five dollars incredible. For my 720 00:34:39,754 --> 00:34:41,834 Speaker 1: mid range, I wanted to go with something a little 721 00:34:41,874 --> 00:34:45,074 Speaker 1: bit more sort of fashion forward in the silhouette. So 722 00:34:45,234 --> 00:34:48,834 Speaker 1: the brand that I found is by Dylan. It's actually 723 00:34:48,914 --> 00:34:52,594 Speaker 1: spelt b Y and then d y Ln. It's a 724 00:34:52,594 --> 00:34:54,594 Speaker 1: bit of a cool brand to know about. On the 725 00:34:54,834 --> 00:34:58,754 Speaker 1: iconic this is like a lower rise cargo pant, still 726 00:34:58,754 --> 00:35:01,873 Speaker 1: that utility feel with the pockets, but it's in this 727 00:35:01,954 --> 00:35:05,834 Speaker 1: really like mustity shade which they call hemp, so something 728 00:35:05,834 --> 00:35:08,834 Speaker 1: a bit different from your khaki. These are really really cool. 729 00:35:08,874 --> 00:35:11,714 Speaker 1: These are one hundred and forty nine dollars nice. And 730 00:35:11,754 --> 00:35:15,194 Speaker 1: then for my bougie I have found a really great 731 00:35:15,394 --> 00:35:20,114 Speaker 1: true khaki cargo pant from a brand called Camilla Coelo 732 00:35:20,354 --> 00:35:23,754 Speaker 1: on Revolve. It's the GG pant and it's three hundred 733 00:35:23,754 --> 00:35:26,634 Speaker 1: and seventy eight dollars fifty nine. And this is like 734 00:35:26,674 --> 00:35:29,914 Speaker 1: a quite a slouchy barrel cut but into a wide 735 00:35:29,994 --> 00:35:33,194 Speaker 1: leg they're olive green, they're one hundred percent cotton. I 736 00:35:33,194 --> 00:35:35,714 Speaker 1: think if you're gonna invest in this style of pant like, 737 00:35:35,754 --> 00:35:37,994 Speaker 1: you're gonna wear them a lot for years to come. 738 00:35:38,274 --> 00:35:39,274 Speaker 1: This is a great find. 739 00:35:39,514 --> 00:35:41,594 Speaker 3: I love those last ones, the boogie ones. 740 00:35:41,754 --> 00:35:43,314 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're super super cold. 741 00:35:43,394 --> 00:35:44,274 Speaker 3: I'd love to get just. 742 00:35:44,274 --> 00:35:47,314 Speaker 1: With a little cropped tea or like a you know, 743 00:35:47,634 --> 00:35:50,473 Speaker 1: a shirt tied around the waist. Like I'm really digging this. 744 00:35:50,514 --> 00:35:51,474 Speaker 3: Vibe and perfect. 745 00:35:51,474 --> 00:35:54,714 Speaker 4: Now I'm moving into or starting to think about spring right. 746 00:35:54,554 --> 00:35:58,394 Speaker 1: Well, this trend is going to translate straight into into shorts, 747 00:35:58,434 --> 00:36:00,913 Speaker 1: cargo shorts, they're coming. We'll talk about them in a 748 00:36:00,954 --> 00:36:01,834 Speaker 1: future episode. 749 00:36:01,914 --> 00:36:02,874 Speaker 3: Let me tell you. 750 00:36:03,274 --> 00:36:05,554 Speaker 4: What I've brought to Bougie to budget is the Darby 751 00:36:05,674 --> 00:36:08,954 Speaker 4: shoe and actually thinking about spring and what to invest in. 752 00:36:09,034 --> 00:36:11,754 Speaker 4: I feel like, yes, we're in the bleak winter right now, 753 00:36:11,994 --> 00:36:13,433 Speaker 4: but if you're going to invest in a shoe, a 754 00:36:13,474 --> 00:36:16,114 Speaker 4: Derby shoe, it kind of will take you through to 755 00:36:16,314 --> 00:36:18,114 Speaker 4: the spring summer months. 756 00:36:18,194 --> 00:36:18,634 Speaker 1: Nice. 757 00:36:18,754 --> 00:36:21,754 Speaker 4: So a Derby shoe. We've been speaking about pim soles. 758 00:36:21,794 --> 00:36:24,314 Speaker 4: It's a very similar. It's almost a cousin to a 759 00:36:24,354 --> 00:36:27,554 Speaker 4: pim sole. It's that low profile. But what defines a 760 00:36:27,594 --> 00:36:31,114 Speaker 4: Derby shoe or a Derby shoe is the open lacing system, 761 00:36:31,354 --> 00:36:33,914 Speaker 4: so where the islet flaps on the. 762 00:36:33,794 --> 00:36:35,873 Speaker 3: Front are exposed if that makes sense. 763 00:36:35,874 --> 00:36:42,154 Speaker 1: If you it flaps, no, sorry, like a thorn. 764 00:36:42,194 --> 00:36:44,433 Speaker 4: But what so you don't normally how you lace your 765 00:36:44,474 --> 00:36:47,834 Speaker 4: shoes up the inside, so it's exposed. I guess it's 766 00:36:47,874 --> 00:36:51,234 Speaker 4: exposing how you lace your shaer so the islets are 767 00:36:51,274 --> 00:36:52,114 Speaker 4: exposed on that. 768 00:36:53,954 --> 00:36:55,954 Speaker 1: I was like, where are the flaps? Got it? Okay? 769 00:36:55,994 --> 00:36:59,074 Speaker 4: But the flaps normally touched him under the shoe, but 770 00:36:59,114 --> 00:37:02,034 Speaker 4: they're exposed to make a Derby shoe, so it's almost 771 00:37:02,074 --> 00:37:05,154 Speaker 4: like a Chelsea boot. Like the definition is a Derby shoe, 772 00:37:05,194 --> 00:37:08,154 Speaker 4: but it could also be like just a ballet shoe 773 00:37:08,154 --> 00:37:09,794 Speaker 4: that's got the lace off at the front. 774 00:37:09,874 --> 00:37:11,593 Speaker 1: Yeah cool, yeah, okay, So what have you found? 775 00:37:11,634 --> 00:37:14,914 Speaker 4: I've got three pairs. My budget is actually my favorite 776 00:37:14,954 --> 00:37:17,954 Speaker 4: one from Zara. It's a really beautiful caramel Swede color. 777 00:37:18,274 --> 00:37:20,954 Speaker 4: It's actually one hundred percent cow leather for one hundred 778 00:37:20,954 --> 00:37:22,234 Speaker 4: and five dollars on Zara. 779 00:37:22,434 --> 00:37:22,634 Speaker 2: Cheep. 780 00:37:22,834 --> 00:37:25,873 Speaker 3: Yeah right, considering it's one hundred percent leather as well. 781 00:37:26,594 --> 00:37:28,913 Speaker 4: My mid range is at Charles and Keith, a great 782 00:37:28,954 --> 00:37:31,634 Speaker 4: brand that we both love for shoes. This one is 783 00:37:31,674 --> 00:37:34,834 Speaker 4: the Piffer Darby shoe in chalk, so just a slight 784 00:37:34,914 --> 00:37:38,034 Speaker 4: I guess it's a white and this one's one hundred 785 00:37:38,074 --> 00:37:40,033 Speaker 4: and forty nine dollars, so this is more just a. 786 00:37:39,954 --> 00:37:42,594 Speaker 3: Style aesthetic look. If you'd prefer the darker or the white. 787 00:37:42,674 --> 00:37:45,154 Speaker 1: These are very much giving that Selene shoe, aren't they? 788 00:37:45,434 --> 00:37:48,794 Speaker 4: Those ones definitely are, that's right. So Bougie is from 789 00:37:48,794 --> 00:37:52,913 Speaker 4: a Korean brand called w Concept. They're really interesting brand online. 790 00:37:53,114 --> 00:37:56,234 Speaker 4: This one comes in a white crunch style, so it's 791 00:37:56,274 --> 00:37:58,274 Speaker 4: just got a little bit more material at the front 792 00:37:58,274 --> 00:38:00,433 Speaker 4: of the shoe. Crunch style sort of lace off at 793 00:38:00,434 --> 00:38:03,593 Speaker 4: the front. Very cool silhouette. Looks like a cool girl 794 00:38:03,594 --> 00:38:06,354 Speaker 4: it girl's shoe. This one's two hundred and fifty. 795 00:38:06,074 --> 00:38:08,073 Speaker 1: Dollars, okay, not breaking the bank. 796 00:38:09,554 --> 00:38:10,194 Speaker 3: Yeah, and an. 797 00:38:10,114 --> 00:38:12,674 Speaker 4: Interesting shoe to dabble in if you're a bit over 798 00:38:12,714 --> 00:38:14,873 Speaker 4: a dad sneaker. If it's a bit too chunky for 799 00:38:14,914 --> 00:38:17,553 Speaker 4: you but you're not a ballet flat girl, this could 800 00:38:17,594 --> 00:38:18,834 Speaker 4: be a really good option for you. 801 00:38:19,154 --> 00:38:23,634 Speaker 1: Ah in between love that good picks this week, So 802 00:38:23,754 --> 00:38:26,074 Speaker 1: if you want all the links mentioned in today's show, 803 00:38:26,114 --> 00:38:28,194 Speaker 1: they will be at the bottom of our show notes. 804 00:38:28,514 --> 00:38:30,634 Speaker 4: And it's also worth mentioning here on pod that we 805 00:38:30,674 --> 00:38:33,674 Speaker 4: have an amazing newsletter that goes out each week, then 806 00:38:33,714 --> 00:38:34,914 Speaker 4: Nothing to Wear Newsletter. 807 00:38:34,954 --> 00:38:36,354 Speaker 3: It's a free resource and. 808 00:38:36,314 --> 00:38:38,553 Speaker 4: It is written by the incredible Tam Holland, who's sitting 809 00:38:38,634 --> 00:38:39,234 Speaker 4: right next to me. 810 00:38:39,554 --> 00:38:41,034 Speaker 3: We talk all things fashion. 811 00:38:41,354 --> 00:38:45,873 Speaker 4: I've got some critical thinking in there, shopping tips and 812 00:38:45,914 --> 00:38:48,354 Speaker 4: advice and styling trends and tips as well. 813 00:38:48,434 --> 00:38:51,034 Speaker 3: So sign up to that one, the Nothing to Wear Newsletter. 814 00:38:51,354 --> 00:38:53,274 Speaker 1: Thank you, my friend, and make sure you're following us 815 00:38:53,274 --> 00:38:56,434 Speaker 1: on YouTube, Instagram and TikTok to see even more Nothing 816 00:38:56,474 --> 00:38:58,634 Speaker 1: to Wear content. 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