WEBVTT - "Too Rich" Celebrities & The Adolescence Theory 0:00:10.622 --> 0:00:13.342 You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 0:00:13.822 --> 0:00:17.182 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:17.222 --> 0:00:18.782 that this podcast is recorded on. 0:00:19.902 --> 0:00:23.862 We've got the first generation of parents who were parenting 0:00:24.302 --> 0:00:27.342 issues that they never experienced. So when I was growing 0:00:27.422 --> 0:00:29.181 up and you were growing up Gen x's. 0:00:28.982 --> 0:00:30.981 Were growing up, it was like, Yeah, we did all the. 0:00:30.902 --> 0:00:34.181 Same naughty shit that our parents did. They have lived experience, 0:00:34.222 --> 0:00:36.702 and the things we were doing not even do we 0:00:36.742 --> 0:00:39.382 not have lived experience of this stuff. We don't even 0:00:39.462 --> 0:00:41.302 understand the words. 0:00:45.382 --> 0:00:47.942 Hello and welcome to Mama Mia. Out loud. It's what 0:00:47.982 --> 0:00:50.422 women are actually talking about on Monday, the twenty fourth 0:00:50.462 --> 0:00:52.102 of March. My name is Hollywayne Wright. 0:00:52.222 --> 0:00:54.822 My name's Mia Friedman, and today we are joined by 0:00:54.862 --> 0:00:55.742 Amelia Leicester. 0:00:55.862 --> 0:00:58.462 I think I was supposed to say that, Sorry, Amelia. 0:00:58.662 --> 0:01:01.502 Welcome Amelia Lester filling in for Jesse Steve. 0:01:01.622 --> 0:01:04.702 Thank you. Amelia is delighted to be here on. 0:01:04.782 --> 0:01:08.142 This show today. Luckily for you out loud, as we 0:01:08.222 --> 0:01:11.581 are here to bust some very important fake pyramid news. 0:01:11.782 --> 0:01:15.581 Welcome to the Anatomy of a conspiracy. Also the eighty 0:01:15.662 --> 0:01:19.702 twenty theory that everyone's madly googling after the TV phenomenon 0:01:19.782 --> 0:01:23.262 that is adolescence, and one of the stars of the 0:01:23.262 --> 0:01:26.581 White Lotus wants you to stop asking about his penis please, 0:01:27.022 --> 0:01:32.102 but first Mia. 0:01:30.222 --> 0:01:32.502 In case you missed it. Fresh from his stint at 0:01:32.542 --> 0:01:35.822 the Olympics, Snoop Dogg has a new job, and that 0:01:36.022 --> 0:01:40.582 is peace invoy between the royal brothers, William and Harry. 0:01:40.702 --> 0:01:43.142 The rapper has said that he would be happy this week. 0:01:42.942 --> 0:01:46.302 To act as a peacemaker between William and Harry because 0:01:46.342 --> 0:01:49.182 life is too short, as he said, and he said 0:01:49.222 --> 0:01:52.382 that he was willing to help heal that relationship between 0:01:52.622 --> 0:01:56.622 the estranged men. Well that's random, you may be thinking. 0:01:56.662 --> 0:01:59.622 Does he even know them? Well, yes, yes he actually does, 0:01:59.982 --> 0:02:02.382 he said. Harry and William I have known for a 0:02:02.382 --> 0:02:04.902 long time now. Harry asked me to perform at William's 0:02:04.902 --> 0:02:07.782 bachelor party, but I couldn't make it. Anything they want 0:02:07.822 --> 0:02:10.702 to perform at Now I am there. They are brothers, man. 0:02:10.901 --> 0:02:12.661 Anything that gets them in the same room and being 0:02:12.702 --> 0:02:14.102 brothers again will be worth it. 0:02:14.822 --> 0:02:17.621 Look Snoop has lived many lives. I think if anyone 0:02:17.702 --> 0:02:21.022 can bring the life experience necessary to heal this rift, 0:02:21.102 --> 0:02:22.982 it's Snoop. I don't know if you know this, but 0:02:23.582 --> 0:02:26.262 he was a member of a La gang in his 0:02:26.342 --> 0:02:28.702 twenties and actually was acquitted at first degree murder. 0:02:28.822 --> 0:02:30.702 I didn't know that, And who I knew is that 0:02:30.742 --> 0:02:32.302 he's Martha Stewart's new best friend. 0:02:32.502 --> 0:02:34.302 He is, but in his thirties he became a born 0:02:34.302 --> 0:02:37.782 again Christian. So he has lived many lives and you know, 0:02:37.942 --> 0:02:41.782 most recently he was in this controversial appearance at Trump's inauguration. 0:02:41.902 --> 0:02:44.662 He went to the Crypto Ball and performed there, and 0:02:44.662 --> 0:02:47.502 that was very controversial because he previously said that black 0:02:47.582 --> 0:02:50.422 artists should not support Donald Trump, and now he's all 0:02:50.462 --> 0:02:52.822 in on Crypto. He's all in on Trump, So I 0:02:52.822 --> 0:02:55.622 mean he is someone who's capable of changing his mind. 0:02:55.782 --> 0:02:56.262 We know that. 0:02:56.422 --> 0:02:58.502 I also think he would be really fun over at 0:02:58.582 --> 0:03:00.982 lunch at Montecito. I think he'd have some ideas for 0:03:01.062 --> 0:03:03.542 Megan's garden and things that she could grow in the 0:03:03.542 --> 0:03:04.182 back garden. 0:03:04.342 --> 0:03:06.142 She could roll in a nice, juicy blunt. 0:03:06.462 --> 0:03:08.942 I think he'd like that, and I have high helps 0:03:08.982 --> 0:03:12.662 that he could, you know, have a peace summit between 0:03:12.702 --> 0:03:14.742 the two brothers. It needs to happen. I need a 0:03:14.782 --> 0:03:15.702 new chapter in that. 0:03:16.302 --> 0:03:18.782 Because you remember when Princess Kate tried it at Prince 0:03:18.782 --> 0:03:21.542 Philip's funeral. She's sort of. She brought them together as 0:03:21.542 --> 0:03:24.142 they were walking out, and then she purled back, and 0:03:24.181 --> 0:03:27.262 then William and Harry walked together for a few moments, 0:03:27.342 --> 0:03:29.501 but to no avail tense. 0:03:30.582 --> 0:03:34.182 The thing about out Louders is that we're a curious people. 0:03:34.622 --> 0:03:37.182 We like information, we like news, we like a little 0:03:37.182 --> 0:03:39.702 bit of gossip, and yes, sometimes we like to get 0:03:39.702 --> 0:03:43.502 swept up in an exciting conspiracy theory. That's why one 0:03:43.542 --> 0:03:45.822 of our number jumped into the out Louders Facebook group 0:03:45.822 --> 0:03:49.422 on the weekend and asked an innocent enough question about 0:03:49.742 --> 0:03:53.782 a secret world beneath the pyramids of Northern Africa. The 0:03:53.822 --> 0:03:56.142 post went like this, just went to a friend's house 0:03:56.182 --> 0:03:58.582 and she was telling me about this amazing underground system 0:03:58.582 --> 0:04:00.942 that's just been discovered under the pyramids a couple of 0:04:01.022 --> 0:04:03.142 days ago, and that it's breaking news. 0:04:03.582 --> 0:04:04.222 And wow. 0:04:04.542 --> 0:04:07.222 Then I take a look on CNN, BBC News dot 0:04:07.262 --> 0:04:10.062 com and ABC to find out more, but there's nothing 0:04:10.102 --> 0:04:13.862 to be found. Why wouldn't something like this beyond the 0:04:13.942 --> 0:04:15.542 mainstream media, she says. 0:04:15.622 --> 0:04:18.582 Was the friend snoop dog that would be great. 0:04:20.062 --> 0:04:22.782 Spoke to my husband and he knew about it, and said, 0:04:22.822 --> 0:04:25.501 the mainstream media don't want to publicize these sorts of 0:04:25.541 --> 0:04:29.541 discoveries now. Other outluders jumped in immediately, telling her that 0:04:29.582 --> 0:04:33.062 she and her friend and her husband presumably were victims 0:04:33.101 --> 0:04:35.421 of a conspiracy theory, and it's a theory that's been 0:04:35.462 --> 0:04:38.262 around for a while, but has recently had new life 0:04:38.301 --> 0:04:42.462 breathed into on TikTok, of course, where creators are posting 0:04:42.501 --> 0:04:45.061 lots of videos talking about a paper that declares there's 0:04:45.101 --> 0:04:49.621 a vast secret city underneath the Pyramids, exposed by satellite radar. 0:04:50.222 --> 0:04:53.382 The reason that our out louder could not find this, however, 0:04:53.621 --> 0:04:56.582 on those credible news sites, is that it has widely 0:04:56.662 --> 0:05:01.941 been debunked. Leading egyptologists and archaeologists who've worked in this 0:05:02.022 --> 0:05:05.822 field for decades say it's impossible, and scientists out the 0:05:05.861 --> 0:05:10.941 accuracy of the supposed like radar be or whatever that 0:05:10.981 --> 0:05:13.861 have been shot down from satellites apparently to expose this. 0:05:13.941 --> 0:05:17.182 They say that's impossible. It couldn't penetrate that far underground, 0:05:17.582 --> 0:05:18.101 and they're. 0:05:17.902 --> 0:05:19.821 Trying to say that there's a city under there, like 0:05:19.861 --> 0:05:20.662 with people in it. 0:05:20.741 --> 0:05:23.221 I don't think they're saying there are people, but they're saying, 0:05:23.301 --> 0:05:27.541 it's like a whole world of chambers and cities. This 0:05:27.582 --> 0:05:29.301 is one of the interesting points about it me because 0:05:29.301 --> 0:05:33.141 I'm like, why do we care so much any people there? 0:05:33.541 --> 0:05:39.461 Because the QAnon had that conspiracy theory years ago about 0:05:39.501 --> 0:05:42.781 these underground tunnels through New York being used to washing 0:05:42.902 --> 0:05:44.261 children to Washington. 0:05:44.501 --> 0:05:45.501 There was a pizza shop. 0:05:45.861 --> 0:05:46.741 Oh, that's right, they. 0:05:46.621 --> 0:05:49.541 Were being used to smuggle children who were being trafficked. 0:05:50.022 --> 0:05:52.821 So people do like a tunnel conspiracy. 0:05:52.222 --> 0:05:52.701 They do. 0:05:53.022 --> 0:05:55.662 And I want to know, particularly from Amelia Lester, why 0:05:55.702 --> 0:05:58.662 we're so keen to believe these days that the truth 0:05:58.782 --> 0:06:02.062 is being hidden from us, whether it's about secret cities 0:06:02.181 --> 0:06:06.022 under deserts or tunnels in New York City, And why 0:06:06.061 --> 0:06:08.421 does everybody really want to believe conspiracy? 0:06:08.421 --> 0:06:11.021 Because sometimes the truth is being hidden from us. And 0:06:11.061 --> 0:06:13.541 I bring this as a card carrying member of the 0:06:13.582 --> 0:06:17.902 mainstream media, but sometimes the mainstream media hides things from people. 0:06:18.101 --> 0:06:20.301 And the example I'm going to bring up here is 0:06:20.702 --> 0:06:23.622 at the beginning of the COVID pandemic, when we were 0:06:23.662 --> 0:06:28.021 told by epidemiologists quoted in mainstream outlets that masks did 0:06:28.022 --> 0:06:31.421 not work, that you had to get medical masks professionally fitted, 0:06:31.462 --> 0:06:34.262 otherwise they wouldn't work. And it turns out, just a 0:06:34.301 --> 0:06:36.741 couple of weeks later, it was revealed that the reason 0:06:36.821 --> 0:06:39.662 why that was reported that way was because they were 0:06:39.662 --> 0:06:42.662 trying to save masks for healthcare workers, which is all 0:06:42.702 --> 0:06:45.381 well and good, love a healthcare worker. But the problem 0:06:45.501 --> 0:06:48.541 is that the media just very credulously reported this idea 0:06:48.582 --> 0:06:50.901 that masks didn't work, when we now know, of course, 0:06:50.902 --> 0:06:52.142 that masks do work. 0:06:52.582 --> 0:06:54.501 I'm going to pick you up on that now because 0:06:54.741 --> 0:06:57.861 I think that two things. Really when people talk about 0:06:57.861 --> 0:07:00.941 the mainstream media keeping things from us, as you say, 0:07:01.061 --> 0:07:05.301 the mainstream media is everything from the Project to Kyle 0:07:05.342 --> 0:07:08.342 and Jackie O to us to the New York Times. Right, 0:07:08.421 --> 0:07:12.782 it's a pretty broad show. And unless it's going to spam, 0:07:13.102 --> 0:07:17.502 I've missed the invitations to the mainstream media meetings where 0:07:17.502 --> 0:07:20.581 we're told by I don't know governments what we can 0:07:20.622 --> 0:07:23.342 and can't write about. And what I do know is 0:07:23.381 --> 0:07:27.822 that journalists and the mainstream media, who are accountable to 0:07:27.902 --> 0:07:30.062 things like deformation. 0:07:29.622 --> 0:07:31.902 Laws, like libel laws, press. 0:07:31.582 --> 0:07:38.062 Counsel adjudications, sometimes we don't report things until. 0:07:37.782 --> 0:07:38.862 There are enough facts. 0:07:39.022 --> 0:07:42.302 When you say credulously, and I think COVID is like 0:07:42.702 --> 0:07:45.502 a very specific thing that we'd never lived through a 0:07:45.502 --> 0:07:48.342 pandemic before, and it's so easy to have twenty twenty hindsight. 0:07:48.742 --> 0:07:51.662 And similarly, everyone said it came from a bat and 0:07:51.782 --> 0:07:53.782 the markets, and now it seems like it came from 0:07:53.821 --> 0:07:57.662 a lab. Sometimes you write or you report what you 0:07:57.782 --> 0:08:00.622 know and what you can verify at the time, and 0:08:00.702 --> 0:08:04.142 when more information comes out, well then you report that. 0:08:04.182 --> 0:08:07.062 It doesn't mean you were lying back then covering something out. 0:08:07.142 --> 0:08:09.182 I've got a more recent example. I knew you were 0:08:09.222 --> 0:08:11.582 going to say that about COVID. So did you hear 0:08:11.582 --> 0:08:14.462 about the drones last year? So did you hear you 0:08:14.462 --> 0:08:16.781 were trying to get me? And I just could sometimes 0:08:16.782 --> 0:08:19.302 I throw you tidbits in our chat and hope that 0:08:19.342 --> 0:08:19.902 you'll sort of. 0:08:21.622 --> 0:08:23.182 You were like that pebbal is not for me. 0:08:23.422 --> 0:08:25.662 So in November and December of last year, there were 0:08:25.702 --> 0:08:28.422 these drone sidings on the US East Coast, and I 0:08:28.502 --> 0:08:31.662 had a number of friends and family losing their minds, 0:08:32.022 --> 0:08:34.822 thinking that these drones were harbingers of doom. They kept 0:08:34.862 --> 0:08:36.982 seeing them at night. There were lots of them. I 0:08:36.982 --> 0:08:40.462 saw videos of them, and politicians were getting in on 0:08:40.502 --> 0:08:42.982 it too. This New Jersey politician said that the drones 0:08:42.982 --> 0:08:46.542 were coming from Iran, from the Iranian mothership. Another one 0:08:46.582 --> 0:08:50.342 other sheep, yeah, that's obviously a technical term. Another one 0:08:50.582 --> 0:08:53.182 said there was a non trivial chance that China could 0:08:53.182 --> 0:08:56.302 be involved in the drones. And even the FBI said 0:08:56.302 --> 0:08:58.182 they did not know where the drones were coming from. 0:08:58.222 --> 0:09:00.422 So it was kind of fun to start speculating about 0:09:00.462 --> 0:09:02.462 where these drones were coming from and why they were 0:09:02.462 --> 0:09:06.342 suddenly appearing everywhere. The government didn't really say much. There 0:09:06.382 --> 0:09:09.182 was this FBI thing, and then everyone was speculating that 0:09:09.342 --> 0:09:11.662 war was about to start. They truly didn't know. But 0:09:11.782 --> 0:09:15.422 then just a couple of weeks ago, President Chump's new 0:09:15.422 --> 0:09:19.262 Press secretary, Caroline Leave, it came out and she said 0:09:19.382 --> 0:09:23.022 that the drones were governmental and that they were doing research. 0:09:23.342 --> 0:09:26.102 What kind of resent, Well, she didn't really say. And 0:09:26.142 --> 0:09:28.422 also why did we have to wait until now to 0:09:28.502 --> 0:09:30.342 hear what the drones were about? 0:09:30.702 --> 0:09:33.142 But that's not about the media. That's about the well. 0:09:33.182 --> 0:09:35.742 At the time, there were these explainers in the New 0:09:35.822 --> 0:09:38.462 York Times, that Washington Post and elsewhere saying there's nothing 0:09:38.462 --> 0:09:40.462 to see here, the drones are nothing. It's like, well, 0:09:40.502 --> 0:09:41.902 the drones are clearly something. 0:09:42.142 --> 0:09:44.662 The thing is, though, is that sometimes we don't need 0:09:44.702 --> 0:09:46.982 to know straight away right And this is often the 0:09:47.062 --> 0:09:52.142 tension between governments, you know, lawmakers, courts, police, etc. And 0:09:52.302 --> 0:09:54.582 us annoying journalists who are always like, tell us, tell us, 0:09:54.582 --> 0:09:56.182 tell us, we're going to dig until we find out, 0:09:56.222 --> 0:09:59.022 and they're like, we're figuring it out. It's probably better 0:09:59.062 --> 0:10:00.902 you don't all know right now. This might not be 0:10:00.982 --> 0:10:03.022 the case with the drones. I don't know, but maybe 0:10:03.062 --> 0:10:05.062 it took a while to figure out where they were 0:10:05.102 --> 0:10:06.062 coming from and so on. 0:10:06.142 --> 0:10:06.742 Like the masks. 0:10:06.782 --> 0:10:09.702 Is a good point where Mia makes the point that 0:10:09.782 --> 0:10:12.702 in the pandemic we were all moving so quickly. There's 0:10:12.742 --> 0:10:14.782 a lot of yelling now about but they told us this, 0:10:14.822 --> 0:10:16.302 and they told us that, but a lot of those 0:10:16.342 --> 0:10:18.382 experts were learning on the job. We're not learning on 0:10:18.422 --> 0:10:21.222 the job, but the research was coming in thick and fast. 0:10:21.302 --> 0:10:23.382 Remember when we had to sing Happy Birthday while washing 0:10:23.382 --> 0:10:25.462 your hands. 0:10:25.502 --> 0:10:27.822 I'm still meant to happy washing your hands. 0:10:27.862 --> 0:10:31.022 It might turn out that there is a secret chamber 0:10:31.222 --> 0:10:33.582 under the pyramids, yea geezer, It might turn. 0:10:33.462 --> 0:10:35.582 To be honest. What I heard from you, Holly, was 0:10:35.622 --> 0:10:38.382 that they don't yet have the radar to penetrate beneath 0:10:38.382 --> 0:10:40.902 the pyramids, not that they have denied that the exact 0:10:41.742 --> 0:10:42.622 The reason. 0:10:42.302 --> 0:10:45.342 That the BBC isn't saying yes, definitely a you know, 0:10:45.462 --> 0:10:47.502 a city, and CNN I was saying yes, it definitely 0:10:47.542 --> 0:10:50.142 a city is because the scientists and everyone are going, 0:10:50.422 --> 0:10:54.222 we can't verify that yet. So it's a signal of 0:10:54.262 --> 0:10:59.302 the impatience between a rumor becoming fact that now we 0:10:59.582 --> 0:11:02.902 jump on that space in between and call it conspiracy. 0:11:03.102 --> 0:11:05.822 Yes, I just think that we in the media probably 0:11:05.902 --> 0:11:07.942 do need to do a better job of admitting when 0:11:07.942 --> 0:11:11.142 we don't know something, when one expert has told us 0:11:11.142 --> 0:11:13.822 something but they're still learning on the job. We didn't 0:11:13.862 --> 0:11:16.702 know back in COVID Times that the epidemiologists quoted saying 0:11:16.742 --> 0:11:19.022 that mass didn't work. We're learning on the job. Of course, 0:11:19.062 --> 0:11:20.822 now that you say it makes perfect sense, but at 0:11:20.822 --> 0:11:23.262 the time that was presented as gospel to us. 0:11:23.542 --> 0:11:27.422 What always strikes me is the naivety of people believing 0:11:27.422 --> 0:11:31.342 that if the media had this amazing story about you know, 0:11:31.542 --> 0:11:37.062 cabals of Hollywood elites eating children, or city under their 0:11:37.062 --> 0:11:42.262 ground or Chinese drones, the media would be cloring over 0:11:42.302 --> 0:11:46.022 each other to report that right, because from the point 0:11:46.022 --> 0:11:48.262 of view of journalists, everybody wants to break a great story. 0:11:48.422 --> 0:11:51.902 But also media organizations want to get exclusives because that 0:11:51.942 --> 0:11:55.062 makes traffic, which you can want to monetize. And you know, 0:11:55.142 --> 0:11:58.302 in this attention economy, the idea that the media are 0:11:58.822 --> 0:12:02.302 suppressing things because someone's told us to. 0:12:02.582 --> 0:12:04.382 Yeah, I don't think they're suppressing it, but I think 0:12:04.422 --> 0:12:07.342 sometimes there's not a lot of admission of humility, like 0:12:07.462 --> 0:12:10.182 we don't know versus nothing to say. Do you hear, folks, 0:12:10.182 --> 0:12:12.222 there's no underground city. I don't know. I'm hanging out 0:12:12.222 --> 0:12:13.062 for the underground city. 0:12:13.102 --> 0:12:15.502 It sounds fun in a moment. 0:12:15.822 --> 0:12:18.502 What is the eighty twenty theory and why is the 0:12:18.502 --> 0:12:25.781 world googling it? After watching Adolescence, Tina. 0:12:25.542 --> 0:12:27.742 Fey wants celebrities to stay in that lane and stop 0:12:27.822 --> 0:12:30.382 starting side hustles. She does not want to buy Natalie 0:12:30.422 --> 0:12:34.942 Portman's vegan shoes, Beyonce's shampoo, Cameron diaz Is organic wine, 0:12:35.142 --> 0:12:38.862 Jennifer Anderson's shampoo, j Loo's alcoholic sprits. 0:12:39.302 --> 0:12:40.142 The list goes on. 0:12:40.302 --> 0:12:43.381 Here's what she says on Amy Polla's new podcast after 0:12:43.462 --> 0:12:45.782 Amy said to her that she had great hair and 0:12:45.782 --> 0:12:47.382 should start her own haircut line. 0:12:47.422 --> 0:12:49.982 But you have incredible hair. I feel like you should 0:12:49.982 --> 0:12:52.702 have a hair campaign. And also I always pushing you 0:12:52.742 --> 0:12:56.542 to have a glass line. Why do you not have clouds? 0:12:56.862 --> 0:12:59.381 I don't have a glasses line because I have to say, 0:12:59.702 --> 0:13:03.902 you hate money. I have a problem with rich people 0:13:04.142 --> 0:13:07.342 having a side hustle. Yeah, do you mean like a podcasting? 0:13:07.542 --> 0:13:09.542 No, this is your doing work. I'm saying if you 0:13:09.862 --> 0:13:12.261 if you sold, like, where would my line be for you? 0:13:12.302 --> 0:13:13.462 Where would I draw the line? 0:13:14.262 --> 0:13:14.462 Yeah? 0:13:14.502 --> 0:13:16.222 I know you mean like if I had if I 0:13:16.262 --> 0:13:19.261 had a rose, if you yeah, you know. 0:13:19.262 --> 0:13:22.222 If you already have like two hundred million dollars and 0:13:22.222 --> 0:13:25.222 you're like, also, I need you to be Tina. 0:13:25.382 --> 0:13:27.702 That is this is where you have to learn from 0:13:27.782 --> 0:13:28.062 gen Z. 0:13:28.222 --> 0:13:30.261 I'm sorry, and we have to They don't care, they don't, 0:13:30.302 --> 0:13:30.582 they don't. 0:13:30.862 --> 0:13:32.422 They don't judge it, judge it. 0:13:32.462 --> 0:13:35.261 Well, get you should stop because this is the thing 0:13:35.302 --> 0:13:37.742 that you have to have a million, you have to 0:13:37.782 --> 0:13:40.062 have glasses amiliar? 0:13:40.182 --> 0:13:41.902 Is it very gen x to be? 0:13:42.022 --> 0:13:44.302 I mean I love a side hustle obviously, so it 0:13:44.342 --> 0:13:46.302 doesn't apply to me. But do you think that. 0:13:46.662 --> 0:13:49.182 Yeah, the idea of selling out is classic gen X, 0:13:49.742 --> 0:13:51.742 and I think it's part of why we've seen such 0:13:51.742 --> 0:13:55.942 a big backlash against Ryan Reynolds and Blake Lively. I mean, yes, 0:13:56.022 --> 0:13:58.702 there's the texts of it all, but also Ryan Reynolds 0:13:58.742 --> 0:14:01.702 has been selling his gin for a long time now. 0:14:02.022 --> 0:14:05.062 His wife, Blake Lively, sells hair care and also an 0:14:05.102 --> 0:14:07.862 alcoholic beverages line. She doesn't drink, by the way, neither 0:14:07.942 --> 0:14:10.702 is j Loo, who also has a drenk. Jlo was 0:14:10.702 --> 0:14:12.382 also the one who told us that she uses olive 0:14:12.422 --> 0:14:14.422 oil on her skin until she wanted to sell us 0:14:14.422 --> 0:14:18.142 the skincare line. I'm over it. I love that Tina 0:14:18.182 --> 0:14:18.822 Fair is saying this. 0:14:19.142 --> 0:14:21.822 I agree it's funny because I'm sure it is gen X, 0:14:21.862 --> 0:14:23.342 but I do judge it because I'm like, what you 0:14:23.382 --> 0:14:26.582 get paid. Don't mean Tina Faye, but some a another 0:14:26.782 --> 0:14:29.502 movie star. You get paid thirty million dollars a movie 0:14:29.622 --> 0:14:33.662 and you need girose line. But then maybe ordinary people 0:14:33.662 --> 0:14:37.222 don't understand how expensive their lives are. Because you're right 0:14:37.222 --> 0:14:39.942 about Ryan Reynolds, but he doesn't only have gin. He 0:14:39.982 --> 0:14:43.702 also has a phone company. Oh yeah, that's a football team. 0:14:44.022 --> 0:14:46.582 He owns the world. We live, just live in Ryan 0:14:46.622 --> 0:14:48.822 Reynolds's world, and like sometimes I'm. 0:14:48.742 --> 0:14:53.182 Like as Ashton Kutcher, who is now he made some 0:14:53.222 --> 0:14:55.422 money through acting, but now he's made most of his 0:14:55.462 --> 0:14:56.942 money through his venture capital firm. 0:14:57.022 --> 0:15:00.702 But that's very different to selling me a sprits. I mean, 0:15:01.262 --> 0:15:04.982 Chris Hemsworth has a fitness app, Galgodott has a boxed 0:15:05.022 --> 0:15:08.862 macaroni cheese company. Scarlet your Hansen has a popcorn st 0:15:09.022 --> 0:15:12.702 and she's got getting caved in Paris. I don't understand 0:15:13.022 --> 0:15:16.022 the problem. It's like, for so long, famous people and 0:15:16.062 --> 0:15:19.862 particularly women, were used to make money for other people 0:15:20.062 --> 0:15:23.582 by being the faces of other people's businesses, and now 0:15:23.982 --> 0:15:28.182 these celebrities are saying, well, I'm not in control necessarily 0:15:28.222 --> 0:15:31.422 of my fame. And also particularly for the women, it's 0:15:31.462 --> 0:15:33.982 a tough world out there for a woman getting older, 0:15:34.142 --> 0:15:38.142 so I want a side hustle to use my own brain. 0:15:39.942 --> 0:15:41.862 It's not a tough world for a man out there 0:15:41.862 --> 0:15:42.542 when he's older. 0:15:42.582 --> 0:15:46.102 It's the Kardashian's fault because when the Kardashians became famous, 0:15:46.102 --> 0:15:48.222 and people used to say, but what do they do? 0:15:48.342 --> 0:15:51.022 No one says that anymore because they sprook things. That's 0:15:51.062 --> 0:15:53.462 what they do, but in the day they were spooking 0:15:53.502 --> 0:15:55.662 public toilets to remember that when there was the time. 0:15:55.742 --> 0:15:58.582 I still sometimes do they still take money for posts, 0:15:58.582 --> 0:16:00.182 But then there are also a lot of them are 0:16:00.182 --> 0:16:02.622 billionaires in their own right because the businesses that they've 0:16:02.622 --> 0:16:05.462 still like Skims and Kylie cost. 0:16:05.142 --> 0:16:07.022 And maybe that's where we draw the line. When the 0:16:07.062 --> 0:16:10.542 company comes across as standing on it so on two feet, 0:16:10.782 --> 0:16:13.462 I think we forgive it more so. Skims is an example, 0:16:13.542 --> 0:16:17.222 now has a billion dollar valuation. Selena Gomez's Rare Beauty 0:16:17.462 --> 0:16:19.702 is now a billion dollar company, and we all accept 0:16:19.742 --> 0:16:22.142 that that's the best liquid blush there is. When it's 0:16:22.142 --> 0:16:23.982 a good company, I think we forgive it. 0:16:24.142 --> 0:16:26.742 J Loo and Britney Spears have both made more money 0:16:26.822 --> 0:16:28.782 out of the perfumes with their names on them than 0:16:28.822 --> 0:16:32.662 anything else in their careers, so it definitely works. But 0:16:32.742 --> 0:16:35.742 it feels like I think what pay is saying is like, 0:16:35.862 --> 0:16:37.942 how many things do you need to put your name on? 0:16:38.142 --> 0:16:40.302 And I'm sure you're right that it's a gen x judgment. 0:16:40.422 --> 0:16:42.422 I'd buy some of her glasses. I wish she'd launch 0:16:42.422 --> 0:16:43.142 a glasses line. 0:16:43.142 --> 0:16:44.342 I'm selfish that she hasn't. 0:16:45.382 --> 0:16:47.782 This next topic is one that makes me really uncomfortable 0:16:47.822 --> 0:16:49.702 to talk about it, but we have to talk about 0:16:49.742 --> 0:16:53.182 it because everyone is talking about it right now. And 0:16:53.502 --> 0:16:56.462 it's the eighty twenty rule. This is a rule of 0:16:56.502 --> 0:16:59.382 in cells online, who believe that eighty percent of women 0:16:59.702 --> 0:17:03.062 are attracted to twenty percent of men. The phrase apparently 0:17:03.102 --> 0:17:06.582 comes from economics. It's from an Italian economist who observed 0:17:06.622 --> 0:17:08.702 at the beginning of the twentieth century that just twenty 0:17:08.742 --> 0:17:11.502 percent of Italian owned eighty percent of land. But in 0:17:11.542 --> 0:17:13.701 recent years in cells have really grabbed hold of this 0:17:13.861 --> 0:17:16.782 and they use this theory to justify why they deserve 0:17:16.861 --> 0:17:19.101 sex from women, because they say that twenty percent of 0:17:19.141 --> 0:17:22.262 men are alphas or chads in their parlance, and they 0:17:22.302 --> 0:17:25.101 get all the sexual opportunities, while the eighty percent of 0:17:25.141 --> 0:17:28.421 men who are not chads don't get any love from women, 0:17:28.502 --> 0:17:31.101 and therefore they can coerce women into sex. 0:17:31.302 --> 0:17:33.621 So it's like the eighty twenty rule of you wear 0:17:33.661 --> 0:17:36.141 twenty percent of your clothes eighty percent of the time. 0:17:36.341 --> 0:17:39.821 It's like that sort of more depressed and impressive. And 0:17:39.942 --> 0:17:43.901 the reason why suddenly everyone's talking about the eighty twenty 0:17:43.942 --> 0:17:47.422 rule is because of this show on Netflix called adolescence. 0:17:48.022 --> 0:17:51.782 This show has triggered a huge conversation about the radicalization 0:17:51.861 --> 0:17:54.862 of young men, how they turn into in cells, why 0:17:55.101 --> 0:17:58.461 young men are committing violence against women, why misogynistic violence 0:17:58.502 --> 0:18:01.101 is on the rise. I haven't watched this show. I 0:18:01.141 --> 0:18:04.061 don't think I ever will watch it, but I'm grateful 0:18:04.141 --> 0:18:06.422 to the star and co writer of the show, Stephen Grain, 0:18:06.462 --> 0:18:08.542 because I think he has kicked off a very important 0:18:08.581 --> 0:18:10.981 conversation at a world that not a lot of us 0:18:11.022 --> 0:18:13.621 know a lot about. I want to share with you 0:18:13.742 --> 0:18:16.581 a clip of him on Jimmy Fallon Show recently talking 0:18:16.621 --> 0:18:18.341 about why he made the show. 0:18:18.702 --> 0:18:21.821 It's a young boy who kills a young girl. I'm 0:18:21.861 --> 0:18:24.542 not doing any spoilers because we found out straight away, 0:18:24.542 --> 0:18:26.022 and as a collective, we didn't want it to be 0:18:26.061 --> 0:18:27.862 a who done it? We wanted it to be more 0:18:27.861 --> 0:18:29.742 of a why why he did it? You know what 0:18:29.782 --> 0:18:31.782 I mean? So what we kind of did was I 0:18:32.262 --> 0:18:34.302 watched I read an article in the paper. It was 0:18:34.302 --> 0:18:36.302 about a young boy who stabbed a young girl to death. 0:18:36.502 --> 0:18:38.221 And then there was a couple of months later on 0:18:38.262 --> 0:18:40.821 the news there was a piece about a young boy 0:18:40.861 --> 0:18:42.821 who stabbed a young girl to death. And these were 0:18:42.861 --> 0:18:46.302 the opposite ends of the country. And I just, if 0:18:46.302 --> 0:18:48.661 I'm really honest with you, Jim, I just hate my 0:18:48.702 --> 0:18:51.422 heart and I just think kind of a society we're 0:18:51.422 --> 0:18:53.901 living in at the moment where young boys are stabbing 0:18:53.942 --> 0:18:57.341 young girls and you know that beautiful saying it takes 0:18:57.702 --> 0:19:00.422 a village to raise a child. Well, I just thought, 0:19:00.422 --> 0:19:02.821