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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma mea podcast. Mama Mia acknowledges the

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Speaker 1: traditional owners of land and waters that this podcast is

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Speaker 1: recorded on.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy and I have known each other for like twenty

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Speaker 2: five thirty years, I think, so there was no feelings

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Speaker 2: for a really, really long time. So I was shocked

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Speaker 1: From Mamma Mia. You're listening to No Filter and I'm

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Speaker 1: Meya Friedman. You know, a few weeks ago I went

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Speaker 1: to the logis and you may have heard about it

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Speaker 1: because I posted so much on my socials and I

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Speaker 1: talked about it on Mama Mea out loud because well,

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Speaker 1: I don't get out much. And there's something about the cheesy,

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Speaker 1: homegrown nature of the logies that appeals to everyone over

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Speaker 1: the age of I don't know, probably around twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Gen Z's meanwhile, probably couldn't name a single person who

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Speaker 1: was on that Logi's red carpet, or locate a commercial

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Speaker 1: TV channel on their TV if they even have TV.

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Speaker 1: They probably just watch on their phones. But stop any

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Speaker 1: and I bet they will have heard of the show

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Speaker 1: Home and Away to Get You and there is no

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Speaker 1: more iconic star of this show than Nata Nikodimo, the

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Speaker 1: actress who's played the character of Leah for twenty four years,

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Speaker 1: since she was twenty three years old, so more than

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Speaker 1: half her life and a lot has happened to Leah

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Speaker 1: are like dog years. Her character has had a few

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Speaker 1: husbands dye in her She's had many love interests. She's

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Speaker 1: experienced racism and anxiety and single parenthood. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: been a busy time. And in the eight years that

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Speaker 1: her co star James Stewart has been playing the role

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Speaker 1: of Justin on Home and Away, AIDA's character and James's

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Speaker 1: characters have interacted and kind of circled each other in

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Speaker 1: the great tradition of soap operas, until they became romantically

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Speaker 2: I will always love you. You never gave ups, even

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Speaker 1: If you don't watch Home and Away, but you are

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Speaker 1: around my age. Probably the best comparison would be Scott

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Speaker 1: In real life, Ada was married for many years to

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Speaker 1: their names. I had to look them up because her

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Speaker 1: private life was not the stuff of gossip columns. It

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Speaker 1: they're on screen shep had spilled over to their real life.

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Speaker 1: So when Aida walked onto the Logi stage with James

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Speaker 1: The last time I spoke to Ada, three years ago

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Speaker 1: a lot can change in a woman's life when she

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Speaker 1: makes some hard choices and puts herself first. And that's

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Speaker 1: what this conversation is about. Ada looked more comfortable in

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Speaker 1: and I began our conversation by asking how she felt

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Speaker 2: I was like, I think I skipped it. You see

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Speaker 2: So you know, not that I'm comparing myself to Meryl

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Speaker 1: Do you mean exciting for the fans or exciting for

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Speaker 2: they're together, we all do, like if Yeah, that's just

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Speaker 2: what you do. But yes, it was I guess a

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Speaker 1: How do you decide when to talk about it publicly?

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Speaker 1: You're not someone who usually gets stalked by paparazzi, not

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Speaker 1: out of that spotlight, perhaps because you've been in it

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Speaker 1: famous that we know of. Yeah, like, how long did

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was that strategic. I just think

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Speaker 2: it was very new. We were just getting together. We

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Speaker 2: so we got papped kissing. I mean it was a

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Speaker 2: It looked like we so was anazac day. We were

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Speaker 2: the lights are on at the Ritz, and he just

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Speaker 1: Did you know that at the time that you'd been papped?

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Speaker 1: When you get papped as a famous person, are you

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Speaker 2: Arm It depends. In that case. We didn't know until

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Speaker 2: So I think we've been followed all day and which.

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Speaker 1: You get thinking feeling it's really really creepy.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean okay, everyone knew who needed to

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Speaker 1: Who was a person you told?

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Speaker 2: Oh geez, oh my best friends to mine? Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: You were shocked?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was shocked. Jimmy and I have known each

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Speaker 2: there was no feelings for a really really long time.

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Speaker 2: So I was shocked when I started having feelings. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: like all this time. So yes, like he was a

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Speaker 1: I mean you had to kiss and stuff as work friends, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is not what most people do with their work friends.

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Speaker 1: It's weird, but acting is weird.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, what's.

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Speaker 1: That like kissing someone who is just your mate? Is

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Speaker 1: it just like you feel nothing or you're a human

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh yeah it's a nice kiss or

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of weird how I don't feel anything.

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Speaker 2: I think it's because I've been doing that for nearly

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Speaker 2: thirty years, Like I've been acting that it is just

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Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like.

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Speaker 2: Well, like I said, no, but you've been you know

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Speaker 1: I've seen a kissing scene.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that hilarious?

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Speaker 1: That? Yeah? No, I don't like I haven't been on

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Speaker 1: the more intimate scene. Okay, is there isn't an intimacy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I've never had an intimacy coordinator,

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Speaker 2: think gets better, absolutely better. I think it's great that

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Speaker 1: Before there was an intimacy coordinator. I love how you

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Speaker 1: call it choreography. That's such an interesting way to put it.

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Speaker 1: Because you are your actors, You're moving and doing things

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Speaker 1: How did it used to happen before there was an

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Speaker 2: I think sometimes you just didn't. It was sort of

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Speaker 2: I don't think we had all of this. We didn't

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Speaker 2: your fellow actor beforehand and this is what I'm comfortable with,

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Speaker 2: But other than that, there wasn't a lot of talk.

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Speaker 2: or I am comfortable with whatever.

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Speaker 1: What might you not be comfortable with? What's an example

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Speaker 1: of what you wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: Be comfortable, Well, I wouldn't do any nudity that's.

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Speaker 2: That would never be proposed to you know, No, but

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Speaker 2: there might be I don't know, turning up to work

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Speaker 2: with you know, you could have just little pasty things

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Speaker 2: on your boobs and you know, I've never done that,

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Speaker 2: so actually I have. Oh there's something coming up where

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Speaker 2: our characters skinny dip. But again we were I was

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Speaker 2: wearing like a full swimming costume and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: That's the first time I've ever done something like that

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Speaker 2: as well. But yeah, I wouldn't be comfortable with being

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Speaker 2: touched in paces that I'm just not comfortable being touched

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Speaker 2: in with. Is that the right grammar? You know? And

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be doing like full on sex

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Speaker 1: No, can I ask when there's kissing, is there like

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Speaker 1: The decision to end that relationship after quite a long time.

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Speaker 1: You seem really happy. It's easy to lose your identity

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Speaker 2: Like so, okay, well what do I like to see?

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Speaker 1: The reel that you made with Jonas was so funny

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Speaker 1: really likes it now because he understands it and it's

435
00:21:51,285 --> 00:21:54,845
Speaker 1: kind of exciting to him that his mum's famous. Even

436
00:21:54,885 --> 00:21:57,685
Speaker 1: though he's never known anything different, he can see the

437
00:21:57,685 --> 00:22:00,165
Speaker 1: benefits of it now. And you said something like he's

438
00:22:00,165 --> 00:22:03,845
Speaker 1: got a real camera eye or his camera hungry or something. Yeah.

439
00:22:03,885 --> 00:22:06,725
Speaker 2: Well, well, I think back then what I was worried

440
00:22:06,725 --> 00:22:09,485
Speaker 2: about was that he was fame hungry like that. We

441
00:22:09,605 --> 00:22:12,285
Speaker 2: like liked it so much, but it was like really

442
00:22:12,325 --> 00:22:15,965
Speaker 2: important to it and he didn't understand. I don't want

443
00:22:16,045 --> 00:22:17,085
Speaker 2: him to grow up and go I want to be

444
00:22:17,125 --> 00:22:21,365
Speaker 2: a YouTube star, yeah, which he was saying that back then.

445
00:22:21,325 --> 00:22:23,045
Speaker 1: Because they're the celebrities that the kids have.

446
00:22:23,205 --> 00:22:26,765
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've seen watching YouTube or time what are

447
00:22:26,765 --> 00:22:29,365
Speaker 2: you watching Like it's weird what they watch?

448
00:22:29,485 --> 00:22:30,125
Speaker 1: But I was.

449
00:22:30,445 --> 00:22:34,325
Speaker 2: I don't think he was developed enough to understand all

450
00:22:34,405 --> 00:22:37,565
Speaker 2: of that. And I still he still doesn't have a phone.

451
00:22:38,005 --> 00:22:40,845
Speaker 2: That's the next thing that tigh school. Maybe I'm struggling

452
00:22:40,845 --> 00:22:44,085
Speaker 2: with really hard. Yeah, he just got the watch yesterday

453
00:22:44,445 --> 00:22:46,525
Speaker 2: where I can ring him. He doesn't have a phone,

454
00:22:46,565 --> 00:22:49,565
Speaker 2: so I'm still sort of trying to navigate all of that.

455
00:22:50,245 --> 00:22:53,005
Speaker 2: I now do some videos with him because I think

456
00:22:53,005 --> 00:22:56,445
Speaker 2: he understands the difference. Don't let him see the likes,

457
00:22:56,805 --> 00:22:59,245
Speaker 2: don't let him understand all the other stuff that comes

458
00:22:59,325 --> 00:23:03,325
Speaker 2: with it. But it's how we behave at home. I'm

459
00:23:03,405 --> 00:23:06,285
Speaker 2: literally like, we laugh all the time and we do

460
00:23:06,325 --> 00:23:09,725
Speaker 2: the dumbest stuff and I kind of like really harassing

461
00:23:09,805 --> 00:23:10,325
Speaker 2: him as well.

462
00:23:10,525 --> 00:23:11,285
Speaker 1: Isn't it the best?

463
00:23:11,285 --> 00:23:15,645
Speaker 2: It's the best. So any opportunity where I can embarrass him.

464
00:23:15,565 --> 00:23:18,165
Speaker 1: By saying I actually find it really lay all day

465
00:23:18,165 --> 00:23:20,285
Speaker 1: on home and away because I know.

466
00:23:20,285 --> 00:23:24,805
Speaker 2: That that's really dorky. He was so embarrassing mum. But yeah,

467
00:23:24,845 --> 00:23:26,725
Speaker 2: so I find that stuff really funny. But I still

468
00:23:26,725 --> 00:23:29,285
Speaker 2: do live in it. I mainly do it because it

469
00:23:29,445 --> 00:23:32,645
Speaker 2: is our relationship, but also I get to embarrass him,

470
00:23:32,885 --> 00:23:33,885
Speaker 2: and it's so much.

471
00:23:33,725 --> 00:23:36,525
Speaker 1: Of who you are. Like, I don't put my kids

472
00:23:36,525 --> 00:23:38,565
Speaker 1: on social I didn't when they were little, not because

473
00:23:38,565 --> 00:23:41,605
Speaker 1: I judge anyone who does, but because not so much now.

474
00:23:41,645 --> 00:23:44,325
Speaker 1: But in the past, there's swirled quite a bit of

475
00:23:44,365 --> 00:23:47,085
Speaker 1: hate around me from certain places and trolls and stuff,

476
00:23:47,285 --> 00:23:49,365
Speaker 1: and I've just never wanted to expose them to that,

477
00:23:49,685 --> 00:23:52,765
Speaker 1: so I've just kept them away. But like, there's so

478
00:23:52,925 --> 00:23:55,325
Speaker 1: much a part of who I am and my identity

479
00:23:55,405 --> 00:23:58,565
Speaker 1: and my life that it feels like I'm not showing

480
00:23:58,565 --> 00:24:01,485
Speaker 1: my whole self. So I understand for you, because just

481
00:24:01,525 --> 00:24:04,485
Speaker 1: everyone loves you. It's beautiful to be able to show

482
00:24:04,525 --> 00:24:06,285
Speaker 1: that side of yourself, which is you as a mother.

483
00:24:06,525 --> 00:24:09,285
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I still think I have to guard it

484
00:24:09,485 --> 00:24:13,845
Speaker 2: a little bit. Like you know, sometimes at school people

485
00:24:13,885 --> 00:24:15,805
Speaker 2: do look me up, and there has been sort of

486
00:24:15,805 --> 00:24:19,525
Speaker 2: those moments where he gets really upset and they'll show

487
00:24:19,605 --> 00:24:21,205
Speaker 2: him stuff that they shouldn't be showing him.

488
00:24:21,285 --> 00:24:23,325
Speaker 1: What's the worst thing someone could google about you?

489
00:24:23,805 --> 00:24:26,965
Speaker 2: Oh? Well, the worst thing that happened to Jonas was

490
00:24:27,125 --> 00:24:30,205
Speaker 2: that they googled me and they found stuff about Harrison

491
00:24:30,405 --> 00:24:33,325
Speaker 2: and then they were talking to him about it, and

492
00:24:33,365 --> 00:24:36,325
Speaker 2: that came up again because we had the anniversary of

493
00:24:36,405 --> 00:24:39,605
Speaker 2: his passing not that long ago, and it happened again.

494
00:24:39,925 --> 00:24:43,965
Speaker 1: Harrison is Jonas's brother who you tragically lost when he

495
00:24:44,045 --> 00:24:47,685
Speaker 1: was still born. And Jonas knows about Harrison obviousness, of

496
00:24:47,765 --> 00:24:49,845
Speaker 1: course he does, but it's not something that he wants

497
00:24:49,925 --> 00:24:50,405
Speaker 1: to talk.

498
00:24:50,245 --> 00:24:53,365
Speaker 2: About, No, And he was really upset about it, and

499
00:24:54,125 --> 00:24:57,325
Speaker 2: and I was so upset that that happened again. But

500
00:24:57,365 --> 00:25:01,165
Speaker 2: I said, buddy, Wit, unfortunately, that's going to happen, you know,

501
00:25:01,205 --> 00:25:03,805
Speaker 2: and as you go into high school, it's going to happen.

502
00:25:03,845 --> 00:25:06,285
Speaker 1: There's the kids being mean about it or they were

503
00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:08,845
Speaker 1: just like it just felt inappropriate, and he didn't want

504
00:25:08,885 --> 00:25:09,685
Speaker 1: to talk about about it.

505
00:25:11,005 --> 00:25:13,525
Speaker 2: I think it was a bit of both, Yeah, yeah

506
00:25:13,605 --> 00:25:16,125
Speaker 2: and yeah. So I just said, this's going to happen.

507
00:25:16,205 --> 00:25:18,325
Speaker 2: I think as he goes into high school, there's going

508
00:25:18,365 --> 00:25:20,245
Speaker 2: to be teenage boys that are going to google stuff

509
00:25:20,245 --> 00:25:21,405
Speaker 2: and they're going to say stuff to him.

510
00:25:21,405 --> 00:25:23,645
Speaker 1: At least there aren't nouds out of you around, you know,

511
00:25:23,885 --> 00:25:25,645
Speaker 1: like they could have been. Imagine that that.

512
00:25:25,605 --> 00:25:29,725
Speaker 2: Would exactly exactly. But we need a few lines. We

513
00:25:29,765 --> 00:25:32,205
Speaker 2: need a few lines that you say and that you're

514
00:25:32,245 --> 00:25:35,285
Speaker 2: prepared like that's going to happen, So let's prepare you

515
00:25:35,445 --> 00:25:38,685
Speaker 2: for it. But it's awful, like I've chosen this job

516
00:25:38,765 --> 00:25:41,725
Speaker 2: like he hasn't. But yeah, it's going to happen.

517
00:25:43,725 --> 00:25:47,205
Speaker 1: After this short break. How does they navigate fame the

518
00:25:47,285 --> 00:25:50,645
Speaker 1: perhaps and what do you do when your life becomes clickbait?

519
00:25:53,885 --> 00:25:56,565
Speaker 1: How it's fame changed. You've been famous for so long,

520
00:25:56,645 --> 00:25:59,645
Speaker 1: since you're a kid. And like back in the day,

521
00:25:59,845 --> 00:26:03,845
Speaker 1: it was very there were rules or there were guardrails

522
00:26:03,885 --> 00:26:07,965
Speaker 1: for it. Like famous people would sell stories about their

523
00:26:07,965 --> 00:26:11,165
Speaker 1: weddings or about their baby and they would be paid

524
00:26:11,165 --> 00:26:13,485
Speaker 1: for those and they were nice. Pictures would be done

525
00:26:13,605 --> 00:26:15,605
Speaker 1: and they would give an interview and the interview would

526
00:26:15,605 --> 00:26:19,805
Speaker 1: be nice, and it was all very controlled. Yes, and

527
00:26:19,885 --> 00:26:22,365
Speaker 1: now was it or wasn't it. No, that's how it

528
00:26:22,485 --> 00:26:23,285
Speaker 1: was from the outside.

529
00:26:23,445 --> 00:26:26,845
Speaker 2: Yeah, like yes, there was. But also like there was

530
00:26:26,885 --> 00:26:29,685
Speaker 2: more paps around. I think back then, and I think

531
00:26:29,685 --> 00:26:31,405
Speaker 2: there was more money to be made because there was

532
00:26:31,445 --> 00:26:32,365
Speaker 2: more mags out.

533
00:26:32,205 --> 00:26:34,405
Speaker 1: Before there was social media and you could control your

534
00:26:34,445 --> 00:26:37,045
Speaker 1: own Yeah, have your own voice out there.

535
00:26:37,165 --> 00:26:40,285
Speaker 2: So in one respect, now at least you can control

536
00:26:40,325 --> 00:26:44,165
Speaker 2: a little bit of it. There's less paps and unless

537
00:26:44,605 --> 00:26:48,325
Speaker 2: you know you're kissing your co star father Ritz. You're

538
00:26:48,325 --> 00:26:53,365
Speaker 2: not really getting followed, so it is quite controlled, I

539
00:26:53,405 --> 00:26:56,325
Speaker 2: think now as opposed to then. But you know everyone

540
00:26:56,325 --> 00:26:58,925
Speaker 2: didn't have camera phones back then. Oh yeah as well,

541
00:26:59,245 --> 00:26:59,925
Speaker 2: thank god?

542
00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:01,045
Speaker 1: Can you imagine?

543
00:27:01,045 --> 00:27:04,445
Speaker 2: Thank god? Like when we were growing up, you know,

544
00:27:04,845 --> 00:27:08,125
Speaker 2: we were all sixteen seventeen eighteen, like we all went

545
00:27:08,165 --> 00:27:10,965
Speaker 2: to nightclub like, thank god that there isn't. But now

546
00:27:11,005 --> 00:27:13,165
Speaker 2: wherever you are people can take Like you're in Coles,

547
00:27:13,285 --> 00:27:14,725
Speaker 2: people are taking a photo of you.

548
00:27:14,765 --> 00:27:16,125
Speaker 1: What do you do when that happens?

549
00:27:16,605 --> 00:27:17,525
Speaker 2: I always take a photo?

550
00:27:18,125 --> 00:27:19,845
Speaker 1: What do you mean? Oh no, I don't mean when

551
00:27:19,845 --> 00:27:21,685
Speaker 1: they come up. But if do people come up and

552
00:27:21,685 --> 00:27:23,885
Speaker 1: say can I have a selfie? Or are they do

553
00:27:23,965 --> 00:27:25,205
Speaker 1: people do that sneaky thing?

554
00:27:25,285 --> 00:27:28,085
Speaker 2: I do see the sneaky thing? Is that shit you

555
00:27:28,085 --> 00:27:30,205
Speaker 2: you'll get? Does? I think it's a little bit rude,

556
00:27:30,365 --> 00:27:33,045
Speaker 2: But I never say anything, do you know? I don't

557
00:27:33,045 --> 00:27:34,885
Speaker 2: know if I've told you this story last time? But okay,

558
00:27:34,885 --> 00:27:37,885
Speaker 2: So my beautiful friend li Ma Grangeer plays Irene on

559
00:27:38,005 --> 00:27:41,125
Speaker 2: Home and Away. Love her to bits, but she gets

560
00:27:41,125 --> 00:27:43,805
Speaker 2: the shits a lot. Like you know, if people just

561
00:27:43,925 --> 00:27:46,005
Speaker 2: she'll say no, if she's not up for a photo.

562
00:27:46,765 --> 00:27:48,965
Speaker 2: It's so great. She'll say no, we'll be at the

563
00:27:49,005 --> 00:27:50,205
Speaker 2: airport waiting for our lugi.

564
00:27:50,485 --> 00:27:51,925
Speaker 1: How does she do it? Nah?

565
00:27:52,125 --> 00:27:53,845
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm just not up for it, darb n not

566
00:27:53,885 --> 00:27:56,885
Speaker 2: doing it. Stuff like that, And I'm like, oh, I'll

567
00:27:56,885 --> 00:27:58,925
Speaker 2: do it. Whatever you want. You want to take a photo,

568
00:27:58,965 --> 00:27:59,685
Speaker 2: I'll take a photo.

569
00:28:00,085 --> 00:28:02,525
Speaker 1: Can I carry a bag to it? I'll do it.

570
00:28:02,605 --> 00:28:05,405
Speaker 2: I always over compensate. Or if they call her Irene,

571
00:28:05,525 --> 00:28:09,005
Speaker 2: my name's Lynn, I'm like, oh, I don't care what

572
00:28:09,045 --> 00:28:11,365
Speaker 2: you call Literally could call me whatever you want. I'm

573
00:28:11,365 --> 00:28:15,445
Speaker 2: always doing that. Anyway, we were in Melbourne watching Wicked

574
00:28:15,645 --> 00:28:18,205
Speaker 2: and I think it's a Princess Theater or something. Anyway, intermission,

575
00:28:18,605 --> 00:28:21,405
Speaker 2: we're waiting for the loop and there's one line. It's

576
00:28:21,445 --> 00:28:25,645
Speaker 2: a long line and it's like this narrow corridor right,

577
00:28:25,885 --> 00:28:29,085
Speaker 2: you can't move, And there was these girls in front

578
00:28:29,125 --> 00:28:31,565
Speaker 2: of us and they were doing the sly little thing

579
00:28:31,725 --> 00:28:36,605
Speaker 2: taking a photo. Lynn lost her ship, like she lost

580
00:28:36,645 --> 00:28:39,965
Speaker 2: her ship. You know, I can see what you're doing.

581
00:28:40,045 --> 00:28:43,485
Speaker 2: Do you realize how rhythm? And she's lost her ship.

582
00:28:44,045 --> 00:28:47,845
Speaker 2: The problem was then we had nowhere to go. We

583
00:28:47,845 --> 00:28:52,005
Speaker 2: were still in the line. We could through and then

584
00:28:52,005 --> 00:28:55,445
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, I should have done that. You shouldn't

585
00:28:55,445 --> 00:28:55,805
Speaker 2: have done that.

586
00:28:55,845 --> 00:28:57,645
Speaker 1: People must lose their ship when they see the two

587
00:28:57,685 --> 00:29:00,245
Speaker 1: of you together, because I imagine when you buy yourself,

588
00:29:00,245 --> 00:29:02,445
Speaker 1: it's easier for you to get around, is it or not?

589
00:29:02,685 --> 00:29:04,085
Speaker 1: I meantinctive.

590
00:29:04,445 --> 00:29:08,845
Speaker 2: So I've got this tunnel vision thing where I don't see.

591
00:29:08,925 --> 00:29:11,005
Speaker 1: All of that, and you don't see people seeing you.

592
00:29:11,165 --> 00:29:14,525
Speaker 2: I don't. So it's annoying actually because you're not looking

593
00:29:14,565 --> 00:29:17,005
Speaker 2: at everything. But that's what I love. When I go

594
00:29:17,045 --> 00:29:19,845
Speaker 2: to Europe or the States or whatever, I could just

595
00:29:19,925 --> 00:29:23,165
Speaker 2: I just look. I look at everything, and people are

596
00:29:23,245 --> 00:29:25,365
Speaker 2: rude to me. But people not rude, but they're just normal.

597
00:29:25,525 --> 00:29:26,685
Speaker 1: That must feel refreshing.

598
00:29:26,725 --> 00:29:29,405
Speaker 2: It away so good, it's so good. But also I

599
00:29:29,445 --> 00:29:32,005
Speaker 2: realize how much I get away with, like how nice

600
00:29:32,045 --> 00:29:32,685
Speaker 2: people are.

601
00:29:33,285 --> 00:29:35,605
Speaker 1: So you get excellent customer service. You're like, so, what

602
00:29:35,645 --> 00:29:37,605
Speaker 1: do you mean it's bad customer service?

603
00:29:38,605 --> 00:29:42,245
Speaker 2: Adam driving say with this because he's so nice and

604
00:29:43,005 --> 00:29:46,205
Speaker 2: it's because you're beautiful. No, it's not, it's not. You're

605
00:29:46,205 --> 00:29:49,205
Speaker 2: a girl, and you know he was just being nice.

606
00:29:49,445 --> 00:29:51,725
Speaker 2: I understand what that means. Now, So look I don't

607
00:29:51,805 --> 00:29:53,965
Speaker 2: I don't notice it. As she was saying to you

608
00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:57,165
Speaker 2: the other day, so now it's like a Davil wormy.

609
00:29:57,245 --> 00:30:00,765
Speaker 1: Yeah, like when you go out together people laying.

610
00:30:00,845 --> 00:30:03,965
Speaker 2: The other week, it was actually quite interesting how different

611
00:30:03,965 --> 00:30:07,725
Speaker 2: it was. Again, we don't realize here in city so much,

612
00:30:07,765 --> 00:30:10,205
Speaker 2: but yeah, it was. This is a double whemming.

613
00:30:10,805 --> 00:30:12,925
Speaker 1: Does that make you think twice before you go out?

614
00:30:13,485 --> 00:30:16,205
Speaker 2: No, I'm never gonna do that. No, no, I'm never

615
00:30:16,205 --> 00:30:18,645
Speaker 2: gonna do that. Never have done that. The only thing

616
00:30:18,645 --> 00:30:20,125
Speaker 2: that does give me the shits is when the paps

617
00:30:20,125 --> 00:30:23,365
Speaker 2: take photos of our kids. I don't like that. All

618
00:30:23,485 --> 00:30:26,045
Speaker 2: the other day we were like getting out of an

619
00:30:26,125 --> 00:30:29,325
Speaker 2: uber so being a Queensland had a really late night,

620
00:30:29,605 --> 00:30:32,805
Speaker 2: like still had eight hours. I'm like, literally my eyes

621
00:30:32,965 --> 00:30:36,005
Speaker 2: take I don't know until mid day to wake up

622
00:30:36,045 --> 00:30:39,125
Speaker 2: these days, like i'me so puffy anyway, got out of

623
00:30:39,125 --> 00:30:42,565
Speaker 2: the uber and I can't see properly anymore. I really

624
00:30:42,605 --> 00:30:45,445
Speaker 2: need glasses all the time. So I was just like

625
00:30:45,605 --> 00:30:48,445
Speaker 2: looking across the road at something going that's a really

626
00:30:48,485 --> 00:30:52,485
Speaker 2: interesting come I realized that it was photo.

627
00:30:52,725 --> 00:30:54,365
Speaker 1: I shouldn't laugh. I should never have clicked on that.

628
00:30:54,285 --> 00:30:57,245
Speaker 2: St it was so bad and it was like eating

629
00:30:57,285 --> 00:31:01,245
Speaker 2: Nicko Demo reveals those shoes have puffy face After surgery

630
00:31:01,285 --> 00:31:04,525
Speaker 2: and body transformation. I'm like, what was my body like beforehand?

631
00:31:05,365 --> 00:31:06,965
Speaker 1: I was looking at the only way I was looking

632
00:31:06,965 --> 00:31:09,645
Speaker 1: at that today because I was like doing my research.

633
00:31:09,725 --> 00:31:12,245
Speaker 1: And firstly, it was so unfair. I mean, that's why

634
00:31:12,285 --> 00:31:15,085
Speaker 1: Mum and Me doesn't ever publish capa photos, which looks

635
00:31:15,325 --> 00:31:18,365
Speaker 1: terrible though, because it's just about humiliating women and stalking them,

636
00:31:18,365 --> 00:31:21,285
Speaker 1: which is mess up. Yeah, and then monetizing that, which

637
00:31:21,325 --> 00:31:24,405
Speaker 1: is just awful. And with the whole story was that

638
00:31:24,445 --> 00:31:28,205
Speaker 1: you were puffy and that something body transformation. I'm like,

639
00:31:28,245 --> 00:31:31,045
Speaker 1: what surgery? And then it was all about how you'd

640
00:31:31,245 --> 00:31:34,245
Speaker 1: acknowledged years ago that you'd had a boob job.

641
00:31:34,405 --> 00:31:36,765
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like years ago, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

642
00:31:36,765 --> 00:31:39,005
Speaker 1: And the occasionally you get botox yeeah yeah, and I do.

643
00:31:39,245 --> 00:31:42,765
Speaker 2: I did get botox, same, but I wasn't puffy from

644
00:31:42,845 --> 00:31:45,645
Speaker 2: anything that I did to my face. I was just tired,

645
00:31:45,885 --> 00:31:48,125
Speaker 2: and it was so they.

646
00:31:47,965 --> 00:31:50,645
Speaker 1: Once called my stomach confronting, and it's like, it's just

647
00:31:50,685 --> 00:31:53,765
Speaker 1: my stomach. I'm sorry if it's confronting. It's so awful

648
00:31:53,925 --> 00:31:55,285
Speaker 1: the way they talk about women, it.

649
00:31:55,325 --> 00:31:58,765
Speaker 2: Really is awful. And actually I showed Simone, my best friend,

650
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Speaker 2: the photos and she's like, oh, oh, I mean first

651
00:32:03,525 --> 00:32:06,125
Speaker 2: she was angry. She's like, can't you sue them? Like

652
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Speaker 2: oh really, I mean as if like which, because how

653
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:11,485
Speaker 2: do you they you were just tired, And I'm like,

654
00:32:11,685 --> 00:32:13,765
Speaker 2: but I do not really bad. It's actually quite funny,

655
00:32:13,805 --> 00:32:16,165
Speaker 2: like you do look bad. Yeah, you have to laugh.

656
00:32:16,445 --> 00:32:18,645
Speaker 2: But then the scout was in that photo. And that's

657
00:32:18,685 --> 00:32:21,445
Speaker 2: what I don't like because I'm thinking, say, Jimmy's scared

658
00:32:21,525 --> 00:32:25,405
Speaker 2: daughter and she's twelve as well, Jonas is twelve. I

659
00:32:25,525 --> 00:32:27,445
Speaker 2: just don't like that stuff. But again, it is what

660
00:32:27,565 --> 00:32:27,845
Speaker 2: it is.

661
00:32:28,005 --> 00:32:29,685
Speaker 1: There are laws in some countries that you have to

662
00:32:29,685 --> 00:32:30,885
Speaker 1: blur out the faces of the kids.

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Speaker 2: I don't you're not here. When Jonas was really young

664
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Speaker 2: and perhaps would follow me and it was like quite

665
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Speaker 2: dangerous or or like he'd be in my front yard

666
00:32:39,685 --> 00:32:42,765
Speaker 2: and there'd be photos and I'd ring the police because

667
00:32:42,765 --> 00:32:45,165
Speaker 2: there was like three cars, two cars, like it's actually

668
00:32:45,245 --> 00:32:47,805
Speaker 2: quite scary. It's stalk or they follow they're following us

669
00:32:47,885 --> 00:32:50,805
Speaker 2: and he's getting scared. They can't do anything about it,

670
00:32:50,845 --> 00:32:54,005
Speaker 2: which is so weird to me that that can't happen.

671
00:32:54,125 --> 00:32:56,765
Speaker 2: Take photos of me, just don't take photos of my kids.

672
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Speaker 1: It's almost like if someone was doing that without a

673
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Speaker 1: camera and selling the photos, it would be called stalking. Yeah,

674
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Speaker 1: because they've got a camera and they're selling the photos

675
00:33:05,405 --> 00:33:08,125
Speaker 1: and making money out of it, it's suddenly just a job.

676
00:33:08,245 --> 00:33:09,885
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so when the.

677
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Speaker 1: Police can't do anything. I've heard this from a lot

678
00:33:11,765 --> 00:33:12,165
Speaker 1: of women.

679
00:33:12,325 --> 00:33:17,245
Speaker 2: Weird and also very threatening. Lends stuff as well. How

680
00:33:17,285 --> 00:33:18,485
Speaker 2: long have you been watching me?

681
00:33:18,805 --> 00:33:19,165
Speaker 1: Yeah?

682
00:33:19,205 --> 00:33:23,365
Speaker 2: What have you seen? Like anyway? Again, I mean the industry.

683
00:33:23,445 --> 00:33:25,845
Speaker 2: I once, you know, it was one of those celebrities

684
00:33:25,885 --> 00:33:28,685
Speaker 2: that sold stories, sold my wedding, all that sort of stuff.

685
00:33:29,245 --> 00:33:31,205
Speaker 2: But at what point do I have to keep making

686
00:33:31,245 --> 00:33:32,805
Speaker 2: excuses for that?

687
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Speaker 1: But you're right, like it's your right to decide if

688
00:33:37,285 --> 00:33:40,925
Speaker 1: you're going to sell a picture of yourself or publish

689
00:33:40,965 --> 00:33:44,725
Speaker 1: a picture of yourself. When someone does it without your consent, yeah,

690
00:33:44,765 --> 00:33:45,445
Speaker 1: it's yucky.

691
00:33:45,565 --> 00:33:49,165
Speaker 2: It's really yucky. It really is yuckyh Yeah. And even

692
00:33:49,205 --> 00:33:51,605
Speaker 2: at work there was a day where because you know,

693
00:33:51,685 --> 00:33:54,445
Speaker 2: Lea doesn't wear bikinis. But I was like about three

694
00:33:54,525 --> 00:33:56,685
Speaker 2: or four years ago, I mean, oh okay, the odd

695
00:33:56,765 --> 00:33:59,245
Speaker 2: time you can put me in a bikini. And then

696
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Speaker 2: there was this one.

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Speaker 1: Day, how do you decide Lee's your character, of course, yeah,

698
00:34:02,885 --> 00:34:07,245
Speaker 1: how do you decide? But you're at the position where

699
00:34:07,285 --> 00:34:10,245
Speaker 1: you can say, do you ever get a script and

700
00:34:10,445 --> 00:34:12,965
Speaker 1: just go, I'm not wearing that. I'm not saying that,

701
00:34:13,045 --> 00:34:15,725
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that to a point, Yeah, what is

702
00:34:15,765 --> 00:34:18,885
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you would because it's your character,

703
00:34:18,965 --> 00:34:21,085
Speaker 1: but it's also you, right, So what are the kinds

704
00:34:21,125 --> 00:34:22,325
Speaker 1: of things that you would draw the line?

705
00:34:22,365 --> 00:34:24,685
Speaker 2: Oh, look, if I was feeling uncomfortable, for example, if

706
00:34:24,725 --> 00:34:26,925
Speaker 2: there was any sort of nud or anything that I

707
00:34:27,005 --> 00:34:31,365
Speaker 2: wasn't comfortable with, if there was a bikini scene. And also, look,

708
00:34:31,405 --> 00:34:33,565
Speaker 2: we are the keeper of our characters. I mean I've

709
00:34:33,605 --> 00:34:35,845
Speaker 2: been playing me or I think for twenty three years. Yeah,

710
00:34:35,845 --> 00:34:37,765
Speaker 2: so there'll be some things that might come out of

711
00:34:38,045 --> 00:34:39,605
Speaker 2: written with that down, I go.

712
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Speaker 1: Oh. I had more questions for Ada. I wanted to

713
00:34:45,285 --> 00:34:49,605
Speaker 1: ask her about getting older and perimenopause. She's forty seven now,

714
00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:54,165
Speaker 1: and also trying to relate to teenage kids that feeling

715
00:34:54,805 --> 00:34:58,685
Speaker 1: of your parents aging, your kids are aging away from you,

716
00:34:59,605 --> 00:35:03,245
Speaker 1: And what was it like when Ada and James really

717
00:35:03,285 --> 00:35:05,525
Speaker 1: did start seeing each other, and how did they tell

718
00:35:05,605 --> 00:35:08,645
Speaker 1: their castmates? Do they have to disclose it to hr.

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Speaker 1: You can find all of this out in Part two

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Speaker 1: of our conversation. There's a link in the show notes