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Speaker 2: to the Spill your daily pop culture fixed.
Speaker 1: I mem vernon now Mash London, who.
Speaker 2: You were back together? We actually got a message. I
Speaker 2: got a little DM with them going. You and Ash
Speaker 2: are so funny together. Stop it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know you and me were the same age,
Speaker 3: so we just love all the same theme.
Speaker 2: Age and the same living in the same stage.
Speaker 1: But it's fine.
Speaker 2: We have a fun show today because we're talking about
Speaker 2: everything Disney. We're talking about all the new Disney movie
Speaker 2: releases that were announced at the d twenty three summit.
Speaker 2: Plus we're also going to be diving into Disney and
Speaker 2: whether the entire company is ready to forgive some of
Speaker 2: its falling stars.
Speaker 3: Walt himself is going to come back from the dead
Speaker 3: holding one arm up and then less smileys on her
Speaker 3: shoulders and gate it is finished.
Speaker 2: Jesus. Oh, that's exactly what I want. That's exactly what
Speaker 2: I want them to do. But first, Ash, you have
Speaker 2: some news from a former president.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she says, one of my favorite things
Speaker 3: that Obama does every year because he is a bad bitch.
Speaker 2: So I'm telling he'd love to be described as a
Speaker 2: bad bitch.
Speaker 3: I would I could have got a third term if
Speaker 3: you've got me on the campaign trip just walking out Google.
Speaker 3: But was a bad bitch, so old me. Barak does
Speaker 3: this every year. He puts out his summer playlists. He
Speaker 3: also does books and films, so it's like he's all
Speaker 3: over it. He should be hosting the spill, he should
Speaker 3: be contract. Here's the thing, though, you'd think, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: guy in his fifties politician or maybe sixties now, he's
Speaker 3: not gonna have great taste in music. The man has
Speaker 3: elite taste in music, Like it's unbelievable. As a music
Speaker 3: broadcaster whose job it was to curate playlists for the radio,
Speaker 3: I would look to these playlists back, oh I've never
Speaker 3: heard that, and then I would discover new music. So
Speaker 3: he's put his summer playlist and I know you've seen it.
Speaker 1: I've seen you surprised by any inclusions.
Speaker 2: I I am so embarrassed. So what he does, he's like,
Speaker 2: he puts together a list and he just uploads him
Speaker 2: on his Instagram, and that's like his little just look.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just writes it all dound.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like it's like his version of
Speaker 2: a newsletter exactly. I did see the music playlist. I
Speaker 2: am so embarrassed that I don't know majority of the songs.
Speaker 2: The only songs I did know were like songs that
Speaker 2: like my dad listens to.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, doesn't they given his age. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's like.
Speaker 3: Norah Jones, like Nick Drake, like older Ratas, like some
Speaker 3: Bob Dylan. But then you've got Charlie XCX three six
Speaker 3: five and she like talks about having a line of coke,
Speaker 3: Like all right, go off, Barack.
Speaker 1: Like that surprised me.
Speaker 2: He's in tune with the girls. He knows it's a
Speaker 2: brat summer. It's a brat freaking summer. And that's why
Speaker 2: I love this guy. Like I don't want to believe
Speaker 2: that an intern did it for him. I just know
Speaker 2: I know in the deepest parts of my soul that
Speaker 2: Sasha and Malia are working over time to help them
Speaker 2: with these playlists.
Speaker 3: No one wants their dad to embarrass them, so I
Speaker 3: feel like it's been a bit of a collaboration. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's like, what about this what about this, And he's
Speaker 3: the genuinely liked the songs and then included them, but
Speaker 3: like even the older songs are like cool, man, the
Speaker 3: guy is so cool.
Speaker 2: He also does like a book list of everything he's
Speaker 2: been reading in the summer, and then he posted on
Speaker 2: Instagram on his Instagram stories and was like, I'm always
Speaker 2: looking for new books, so let me know. So I
Speaker 2: did DM him.
Speaker 1: What did you tell him to read?
Speaker 2: He told him. I said, wait, let me actually.
Speaker 1: Let me guess angest songs and perfect.
Speaker 2: Oh no, but I should suggest I should have. I said, Hi,
Speaker 2: mister Obama, I really, I really enjoyed everything I know
Speaker 2: about Love by Dolly Allison. Ask your daughters about it
Speaker 2: in brackets they'll know. We'd love to know your thoughts.
Speaker 2: So I've opened it up for him to continue the conversation,
Speaker 2: which he's asked.
Speaker 1: So I'm just read Good Material, her latest book.
Speaker 2: I did read good Material?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Finished? D and left it?
Speaker 2: Really I thought that that's actually my favorite book of hers.
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love.
Speaker 1: That's why I love books.
Speaker 2: Man, Like you just don't know what you're gonna get. No, no,
Speaker 2: but your gongy. This is now a book podcast.
Speaker 1: I would love it to be.
Speaker 2: So the D twenty three summit took place a few
Speaker 2: days ago, and I didn't actually know what that meant.
Speaker 2: It's neither.
Speaker 3: I didn't know they had a summit, man, But now
Speaker 3: it makes sense that would have a So I thought.
Speaker 2: It was like some weird like Star Wars terminology about
Speaker 2: like like.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw on the news the
Speaker 3: other day. I actually put the physical news on, like
Speaker 3: the channels. I think it was gonna do with the Olympics.
Speaker 3: There was a crossover and it had in some way
Speaker 3: in a westfield in Melbourne, there was a Disney pop
Speaker 3: up and people had come from all over Australia to
Speaker 3: get is like collectible Disney cards. So I think it
Speaker 3: was all part of the same Disney situation. They were
Speaker 3: just like ral and everyone else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Disney adults are a big, big, big thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Power, you guys, all power.
Speaker 2: So the D twenty three is a massive convention that
Speaker 2: takes place. It's actually made by the Official Fan Club
Speaker 2: of Disney. Oh really, which is insane. And now it's
Speaker 2: become this big thing where Disney use it as a
Speaker 2: way of like showing what they have coming up. It's
Speaker 2: also like a big awards ceremony. They have massive celebrities
Speaker 2: come in, like ex Disney celebrities, new celebrities that are
Speaker 2: coming into Disney. It's just like a big convention, similar
Speaker 2: to how comic Con is and how Marvel uses comic
Speaker 2: Con to like showcase what they have coming up. That's
Speaker 2: kind of what D twenty three is. The latest one
Speaker 2: took place a few days ago and some of the
Speaker 2: big announcements are get ready for this. Everyone who's into Disney,
Speaker 2: You're gonna die. I remember that.
Speaker 3: I'm a mother of a toddler, so I probably will
Speaker 3: be very excited about whatever.
Speaker 2: I have a twenty eight year old woman who's also
Speaker 2: the same page. So some films that are coming up
Speaker 2: is Toy Story five.
Speaker 3: I think we can do with that another Toy Story
Speaker 3: just quietly. But they all kind of merge into one
Speaker 3: big film. For me after the first one, you're just
Speaker 3: like Frozen three put it in my veins. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I wasn't part of the Frozen some gang like.
Speaker 2: I had to watch it as an adult, and I
Speaker 2: didn't really get a bit. I guess I understand the Lord.
Speaker 3: Every song you just you could start playing that field.
Speaker 3: But any point within the ninety minutes, and I would
Speaker 3: be able to within a second on the dialogue. On
Speaker 3: the songs, it's my son, who's now over frozen frozen
Speaker 3: for a good seven months. He wouldn't walk around. He
Speaker 3: would only gallop around and say that he was writing
Speaker 3: s fen.
Speaker 1: It was so swe beautiful.
Speaker 3: And Cobblestone three it's finn.
Speaker 1: I like the oh Laft number one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, classic and Incredibles three, which I am so excited about.
Speaker 2: I'm a big Incredibles girl.
Speaker 3: Love the Incredibles. That's fun, that's fine. Good on them,
Speaker 3: three big ones making cash. And then there's Avatar as well.
Speaker 3: And I did some deep diving into Avatar because I
Speaker 3: was like, I feel like a lot of money has
Speaker 3: been made on Avatar, and I was not wrong. So
Speaker 3: Avatar one, which was like forever Ago, was the highest
Speaker 3: grossing film of all time. Yeah, I'm imagining that Titanic
Speaker 3: was one before that. Also James Cameron, and then James
Speaker 3: Cameron did Avatar, and then Avatar two was the third
Speaker 3: highest grossing film of all time. He's making bank. This
Speaker 3: is just a director.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He made over three hundred million dollars from the first
Speaker 3: film alone.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. That is too much money.
Speaker 3: I believe it's a four or five movie deal that's happening.
Speaker 2: Interesting because it's what's called Fire and Ash, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: and I don't I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in it about me in the fire.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's Ash. It's fire and Ash London, Ash London,
Speaker 2: ash buckets London.
Speaker 3: I'm just going to be painting myself in blue splashing
Speaker 3: around in the water.
Speaker 2: It's crazy how they've announced this third film because there
Speaker 2: was a massive gap between the first and second film.
Speaker 3: No, but I think that's just James Cameron's way. I
Speaker 3: think he's just a bit like weird like that, Like
Speaker 3: it takes a really long time.
Speaker 1: He does a lot of research.
Speaker 3: The films cost like two three, four hundred million dollars
Speaker 3: to make, like it's unbelievable. But like on the opening weekend,
Speaker 3: I think internationally made a billion dollars in ticket sale, so.
Speaker 1: They get the money back.
Speaker 3: But when there's that much money being thrown around and
Speaker 3: that many animators and you know, Kate Windsor had to
Speaker 3: learn how to hold her breath underwater for like eight
Speaker 3: minutes or something.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous. Oh, that takes time.
Speaker 2: It does take time. We're waiting on Kate, We'll wait.
Speaker 3: He saw the footage where she like goes underwater I
Speaker 3: have training pool.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Watch it's amazing and she holds her breath for like
Speaker 3: Jesus comes up and I don't know if it's eight minutes.
Speaker 1: But I think it's a lot. It's like one of
Speaker 1: those big as numbers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she ended up becoming a fish.
Speaker 1: She grew gills, she grew kills and scales.
Speaker 2: They also gave a deeper look into the new Linking
Speaker 2: movie Mafussa, which shows Mafussa's life before he spoilers.
Speaker 1: All right, you know, I fast forward that scene.
Speaker 2: Still, it's so sad. I'm excited for that one because
Speaker 2: it also has Blue Ivy in. It's just like Beyonce Real.
Speaker 3: It's not Northwest because we need to see less of
Speaker 3: Northwest singing Yes and more of Blue.
Speaker 2: Eyes all Blue Ivy. And also lind Manuel Miranda who
Speaker 2: did the music, is introducing a new song for that.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: And let's be honest, all of the kids stuff that
Speaker 3: lind Manuel has done is amazing, Like Moana.
Speaker 2: Hellois, Moana el Kanto canto so good amazing.
Speaker 1: And then we've got Freaky of Friday as well.
Speaker 3: I'm so excited about because Chad Michael Murray, Jamie Lee,
Speaker 3: Curtis and Lilo all involved. I watched some of the
Speaker 3: press junkets for Freaky Friday.
Speaker 1: How good is Lindsay looking?
Speaker 2: She's like incredible. I remember the last time I heard
Speaker 2: about her was when she was actually in Australia judging
Speaker 2: the Mass Singer and then she went out and then
Speaker 2: she came back and did the Irish wish.
Speaker 1: That movie, oh ten out of ten percent, it's so good.
Speaker 2: And then then I think after watching that movie, I
Speaker 2: was like, she's back.
Speaker 3: She back, and I think that Fix actually gave her
Speaker 3: like a deal. She's going to do a couple of them.
Speaker 3: So she got the money back. The bank accounts haarted growing.
Speaker 3: She looks amazing. He's a bit of audio with Jamie
Speaker 3: Lee and Lindsay explaining some of the differences, how the
Speaker 3: characters have grown full the second vision.
Speaker 1: How is this going to work this time?
Speaker 2: How is it gonna be freakier?
Speaker 4: What a good way to bring up the new title
Speaker 4: film Freakier Friday.
Speaker 1: It's freakier, it is freakier. Yeah, there's different kinds of switches.
Speaker 1: I'm a mom now right to a teenager. That makes
Speaker 1: me a grandma. A freaky scene.
Speaker 3: Okay, so are you two switching bodies again?
Speaker 4: Telling you who you's switching with?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 4: But people switch people because it's a body switch comedy.
Speaker 4: But it's actually it's freakier, it's funnier, it's much more
Speaker 4: emotional because you know there's more at stake. I'm now
Speaker 4: a grandma. She's a mom, she has a child. There's marriage,
Speaker 4: there's loss, They're all of the things that make this
Speaker 4: story so relatable to people.
Speaker 2: I am so freaky excited trying to make it, trying
Speaker 2: to make it. I'm so excited for this. I was
Speaker 2: a bit too young for the original. It's not even
Speaker 2: the original, right, Like the original is a remake, I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the first.
Speaker 2: Film with Linday Lohan and Jamie Lee Curtis, I was
Speaker 2: a bit too young, so I watched it when I
Speaker 2: was a bit older. Immediately became obsessed and, like everyone else,
Speaker 2: had a massive crush on Chad Michael Murray. And the
Speaker 2: fact that Who has also.
Speaker 3: Been relegated to the depths of Netflix Christmas films.
Speaker 1: Some real stinkers Slash.
Speaker 3: I love them so much to put him in my veins,
Speaker 3: So I'm glad that he's going to have a big
Speaker 3: screen return, and.
Speaker 1: Also like it's funny like Josh Hart and at his back.
Speaker 3: Again, you're probably a bit too young for him, but
Speaker 3: he was a teen heart of around the same time.
Speaker 2: I remember he was just he had a.
Speaker 3: Cameo in The Bear and now he's going to be
Speaker 3: back on the big screen after kind of leaving Hollywood.
Speaker 1: So I'm loving all the return of these heart throbs.
Speaker 2: Yes, the introduction of Freakier Friday. Plus also for me,
Speaker 2: the Incredibles three. It kind of makes me think about, like,
Speaker 2: who are these movies for, because I'm like, these are
Speaker 2: for me, And I think Disney's being so clever with
Speaker 2: having these massive gaps between the first and like the sequel,
Speaker 2: because I watched, for example, The Incredibles when I was
Speaker 2: really young. It was like a kid's movie for me.
Speaker 2: And then Incredibles too when I went to see it
Speaker 2: in cinema, I was an adult with my sister who's
Speaker 2: also an adult, and we were just in a sea
Speaker 2: of all adults plus like kids.
Speaker 1: It's so cool, and you're right, it's so clever.
Speaker 3: It's and now with like so many more films being
Speaker 3: made and less money being made on movie like ticket
Speaker 3: salesand stuff with streaming, does he have to be clever
Speaker 3: about it?
Speaker 1: They need as many eyeballs as possible.
Speaker 2: And you can tell what their jokes and stuff they use,
Speaker 2: like it's not just for kids, like they have like
Speaker 2: some sly adult jokes in there. They're being really smart
Speaker 2: with like the content in general.
Speaker 1: And it's clever.
Speaker 2: I think it's just Yeah, even all these like Frozen three,
Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch now because I know that, like
Speaker 2: it's gonna be also.
Speaker 3: For me, Yeah, because I love Frozen too. People like
Speaker 3: it's not that good yet it is.
Speaker 1: I was about to say the same thing.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I don't sing ash and it's
Speaker 2: going to be stuck in our hands forever.
Speaker 3: No, oh good.
Speaker 2: After the break, we are talking about a very special
Speaker 2: award that Marley Cyrus received at the D twenty three
Speaker 2: summit and what it means.
Speaker 3: So we've been talking about the D twenty three, which
Speaker 3: I'm assuming is like, does that mean twenty twenty three
Speaker 3: and every year it's like D twenty two, D twenty one,
Speaker 3: or we just.
Speaker 2: Look I was trying to figure this out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows. It's no Disney issue.
Speaker 3: So we've already talked about the films that they've announced
Speaker 3: all that stuff, but also every year they give away
Speaker 3: this Disney Legends Awards all sorts of people who have
Speaker 3: like contributed to the success and the spirit of Disney.
Speaker 1: So some recent.
Speaker 3: Awardees Alan Pompeo, Patrick Dempsey from Greg's Anatomy, Jonathan Groff
Speaker 3: Musical Superstar, I Didner Menzell, Christen Bell, Josh Gadd, Chadwig Boseman,
Speaker 3: and then James Cameron, Harrison Ford, Jamie Lee Curtis with
Speaker 3: this year, as well as alcohol.
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus. It's surprising, m.
Speaker 3: Because you know, Miley and Disney for the last couple
Speaker 3: of years don't kind of seem to go very well
Speaker 3: in the same sent tense.
Speaker 4: I definitely wasn't created and allowed, But if I was,
Speaker 4: there must have been a bug in the system which
Speaker 4: caused me to malfunction.
Speaker 3: Somewhere between the years of twenty thirteen and sixteen.
Speaker 2: She's so cute. You could tell she was genuinely so
Speaker 2: happy to receive that award. She was so emotional, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is a summit that I've not even
Speaker 2: heard of before today, and she is so proud to
Speaker 2: be receiving this, like, what is it, legendary dis yinder Ward,
Speaker 2: yinder Ward.
Speaker 3: And I think I love the fact that she just
Speaker 3: addressed the elephant in the room, which was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, which is when she was working on stage
Speaker 3: with Robin Thick. You know, she was trying really hard
Speaker 3: to kind of distance herself from that like little girl
Speaker 3: Disney kind of image, But that doesn't change the fact
Speaker 3: that it kind of really set her up for life.
Speaker 3: But do just want to say that Miley still be
Speaker 3: proud of that era. Wrecking Ball was one of the
Speaker 3: greatest pop songs.
Speaker 2: The Bangers era was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bangers was literally said what it was on the packet.
Speaker 1: It was full of bangers.
Speaker 3: So Miley, we loved twenty thirteen, Mile, But I think
Speaker 3: it's interesting that she brought it up in her speech.
Speaker 2: It's also interesting because looking at the list that you
Speaker 2: ran off with, like all the other legends, she seems
Speaker 2: like significantly younger than the rest of them.
Speaker 3: Well, she started when she was thirteen, like all those
Speaker 3: other people probably got started twenties after her, So it
Speaker 3: kind of makes sense.
Speaker 1: Like if we think about it, she was thirteen when Hannamon.
Speaker 3: She became Hannah Montana, which is, you know, like twenty
Speaker 3: years ago, so it's twenty years on. It's also probably
Speaker 3: started twenty years ago as well.
Speaker 2: It's scary also the way she started, like it sounds
Speaker 2: like my worst nightmare. She if you've watched Ana Moontana,
Speaker 2: if you grew up with Hannah Montana like I did.
Speaker 2: Like when the show first starts, like the first episode,
Speaker 2: you just see clips of her performing at sold out stadiums,
Speaker 2: and ever since that day, like even now as an adult,
Speaker 2: I always think about, how do they do that? Like
Speaker 2: did they have some crazy technology that like.
Speaker 1: Maybe I just read to think about it today. She
Speaker 1: actually had.
Speaker 2: So she performed as like the supporting act for the
Speaker 2: Cheetah Girls when the Cheeta Girls were a big thing.
Speaker 2: So the cheater Girls' movies happened, and then they went
Speaker 2: touring around like America as actual concerts, and she was
Speaker 2: a supporting act. No one knew who she was. That
Speaker 2: she just had to do it to the film for
Speaker 2: her show and like pretend like go hey and everyone's
Speaker 2: going hey, and like imagine doing that to an audience
Speaker 2: has no idea who you were. She had to perform
Speaker 2: like in front of like people at mauls like shopping centers.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I didn't put on free concerts and
Speaker 3: like forced people to cove just to get some footage.
Speaker 2: And I just always think about it, like, imagine that
Speaker 2: was me thirteen years old at like Parramatta Westfield.
Speaker 3: My dream is a thirteen year old I would have
Speaker 3: loved that form in front of like these moms and
Speaker 3: dads trying to buy their groceries.
Speaker 1: Yes, get it all.
Speaker 3: I suppose she did have like her dad's billy race ye,
Speaker 3: and yet he wasn't like the biggest.
Speaker 1: Star ever, but you know he was.
Speaker 3: He was established, So I get the sense that she
Speaker 3: was probably used to kind of show bis et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera.
Speaker 1: But look, thirteen years old.
Speaker 3: I just if I had any sense of pressure at thirteen,
Speaker 3: and any sense of like my life being recorded and
Speaker 3: then brought up to like haunt me twenty years later,
Speaker 3: like oh yeah, like no, thank you.
Speaker 2: It's also really taling with both her and Lindsay Lohan
Speaker 2: being at this D twenty three summit. It feels like
Speaker 2: Disney has done a full three sixty on them as
Speaker 2: people in a way of like saying that giving them
Speaker 2: these big shots like Lindsay introducing Freak of Friday with
Speaker 2: legend Jamie Lee Curtis giving Miley the Award, it feels
Speaker 2: like a bit of like an insidious way of like
Speaker 2: forgiving them for like taint I guess again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like now that their audiences from the first time
Speaker 3: old enough and have kids, let's welcome them back into
Speaker 3: the fold and try and once again squeeze as much
Speaker 3: money as we can out of our little cash cows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's working because, like I said, I'm going
Speaker 2: to be there watching these movies as well as all
Speaker 2: of these kids who going to see it for the
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 1: Totally, and we'll look down at them like you.
Speaker 2: No, you don't know the law behind us, know.
Speaker 1: You are just hopping on a bandwagin Well.
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