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Speaker 1: You're listening to Amma Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and borders

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on from Mama Mia. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Spill your daily pop culture fixed.

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Speaker 1: I mem vernon now Mash London, who.

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Speaker 2: You were back together? We actually got a message. I

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Speaker 2: got a little DM with them going. You and Ash

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Speaker 2: are so funny together. Stop it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know you and me were the same age,

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Speaker 3: so we just love all the same theme.

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Speaker 2: Age and the same living in the same stage.

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Speaker 1: But it's fine.

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Speaker 2: We have a fun show today because we're talking about

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Speaker 2: everything Disney. We're talking about all the new Disney movie

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Speaker 2: releases that were announced at the d twenty three summit.

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Speaker 2: Plus we're also going to be diving into Disney and

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Speaker 2: whether the entire company is ready to forgive some of

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Speaker 2: its falling stars.

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Speaker 3: Walt himself is going to come back from the dead

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Speaker 3: holding one arm up and then less smileys on her

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Speaker 3: shoulders and gate it is finished.

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Speaker 2: Jesus. Oh, that's exactly what I want. That's exactly what

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Speaker 2: I want them to do. But first, Ash, you have

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Speaker 2: some news from a former president.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she says, one of my favorite things

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Speaker 3: that Obama does every year because he is a bad bitch.

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Speaker 2: So I'm telling he'd love to be described as a

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Speaker 3: I would I could have got a third term if

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Speaker 3: you've got me on the campaign trip just walking out Google.

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Speaker 3: But was a bad bitch, so old me. Barak does

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Speaker 3: this every year. He puts out his summer playlists. He

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Speaker 3: also does books and films, so it's like he's all

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Speaker 3: over it. He should be hosting the spill, he should

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Speaker 3: be contract. Here's the thing, though, you'd think, oh, you know,

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Speaker 3: guy in his fifties politician or maybe sixties now, he's

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Speaker 3: not gonna have great taste in music. The man has

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Speaker 3: elite taste in music, Like it's unbelievable. As a music

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Speaker 3: broadcaster whose job it was to curate playlists for the radio,

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Speaker 3: I would look to these playlists back, oh I've never

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Speaker 3: heard that, and then I would discover new music. So

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Speaker 3: he's put his summer playlist and I know you've seen it.

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Speaker 1: I've seen you surprised by any inclusions.

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Speaker 2: I I am so embarrassed. So what he does, he's like,

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Speaker 2: he puts together a list and he just uploads him

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Speaker 2: on his Instagram, and that's like his little just look.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just writes it all dound.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like it's like it's like his version of

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Speaker 2: a newsletter exactly. I did see the music playlist. I

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Speaker 2: am so embarrassed that I don't know majority of the songs.

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Speaker 2: The only songs I did know were like songs that

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Speaker 2: like my dad listens to.

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Speaker 1: That makes sense, doesn't they given his age. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's like.

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Speaker 3: Norah Jones, like Nick Drake, like older Ratas, like some

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Speaker 3: Bob Dylan. But then you've got Charlie XCX three six

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Speaker 3: five and she like talks about having a line of coke,

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Speaker 3: Like all right, go off, Barack.

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Speaker 1: Like that surprised me.

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Speaker 2: He's in tune with the girls. He knows it's a

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Speaker 2: brat summer. It's a brat freaking summer. And that's why

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Speaker 2: I love this guy. Like I don't want to believe

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Speaker 2: that an intern did it for him. I just know

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Speaker 2: I know in the deepest parts of my soul that

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Speaker 2: Sasha and Malia are working over time to help them

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Speaker 2: with these playlists.

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Speaker 3: No one wants their dad to embarrass them, so I

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Speaker 3: that's like, what about this what about this, And he's

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Speaker 2: He also does like a book list of everything he's

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Speaker 2: been reading in the summer, and then he posted on

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Speaker 2: looking for new books, so let me know. So I

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Speaker 1: What did you tell him to read?

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Speaker 2: He told him. I said, wait, let me actually.

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Speaker 1: Let me guess angest songs and perfect.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, but I should suggest I should have. I said, Hi,

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Speaker 2: mister Obama, I really, I really enjoyed everything I know

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Speaker 2: about Love by Dolly Allison. Ask your daughters about it

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Speaker 2: in brackets they'll know. We'd love to know your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: So I've opened it up for him to continue the conversation,

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Speaker 1: So I'm just read Good Material, her latest book.

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Speaker 2: I did read good Material?

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Speaker 2: Really I thought that that's actually my favorite book of hers.

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 1: That's why I love books.

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Speaker 2: but your gongy. This is now a book podcast.

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Speaker 2: So the D twenty three summit took place a few

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Speaker 3: I didn't know they had a summit, man, But now

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Speaker 2: It was like some weird like Star Wars terminology about

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Speaker 3: the channels. I think it was gonna do with the Olympics.

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Speaker 3: There was a crossover and it had in some way

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Disney adults are a big, big, big thing.

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Speaker 2: So the D twenty three is a massive convention that

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Speaker 2: also like a big awards ceremony. They have massive celebrities

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Speaker 2: Con to like showcase what they have coming up. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of what D twenty three is. The latest one

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Speaker 2: I have a twenty eight year old woman who's also

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Speaker 2: See, I wasn't part of the Frozen some gang like.

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Speaker 3: Every song you just you could start playing that field.

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Speaker 3: But any point within the ninety minutes, and I would

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Speaker 3: Love the Incredibles. That's fun, that's fine. Good on them,

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Speaker 3: three big ones making cash. And then there's Avatar as well.

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Speaker 3: And I did some deep diving into Avatar because I

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Speaker 3: Avatar one, which was like forever Ago, was the highest

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Speaker 3: He made over three hundred million dollars from the first

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Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. That is too much money.

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Speaker 3: I believe it's a four or five movie deal that's happening.

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Speaker 2: Interesting because it's what's called Fire and Ash, right, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're in it about me in the fire.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's Ash. It's fire and Ash London, Ash London,

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to be painting myself in blue splashing

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Speaker 2: It's crazy how they've announced this third film because there

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Speaker 3: No, but I think that's just James Cameron's way. I

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Speaker 3: The films cost like two three, four hundred million dollars

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Speaker 3: But when there's that much money being thrown around and

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous. Oh, that takes time.

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Speaker 2: It does take time. We're waiting on Kate, We'll wait.

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Speaker 3: He saw the footage where she like goes underwater I

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Speaker 3: Watch it's amazing and she holds her breath for like

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Speaker 3: Jesus comes up and I don't know if it's eight minutes.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's a lot. It's like one of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like she ended up becoming a fish.

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Speaker 1: She grew gills, she grew kills and scales.

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Speaker 2: They also gave a deeper look into the new Linking

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Speaker 2: movie Mafussa, which shows Mafussa's life before he spoilers.

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Speaker 1: All right, you know, I fast forward that scene.

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Speaker 2: Still, it's so sad. I'm excited for that one because

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Speaker 2: it also has Blue Ivy in. It's just like Beyonce Real.

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Speaker 3: It's not Northwest because we need to see less of

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: And let's be honest, all of the kids stuff that

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Speaker 1: And then we've got Freaky of Friday as well.

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Speaker 3: I'm so excited about because Chad Michael Murray, Jamie Lee,

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Speaker 1: How good is Lindsay looking?

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Speaker 1: It's freakier, it is freakier. Yeah, there's different kinds of switches.

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Speaker 2: And you can tell what their jokes and stuff they use,

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Speaker 3: So we've been talking about the D twenty three, which

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Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus. It's surprising, m.

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Speaker 3: Somewhere between the years of twenty thirteen and sixteen.

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Speaker 3: So Miley, we loved twenty thirteen, Mile, But I think

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Speaker 3: Well, she started when she was thirteen, like all those

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Speaker 1: Like if we think about it, she was thirteen when Hannamon.

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Speaker 3: I suppose she did have like her dad's billy race ye,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like now that their audiences from the first time

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's working because, like I said, I'm going

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Speaker 1: Totally, and we'll look down at them like you.

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Speaker 2: No, you don't know the law behind us, know.

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Speaker 1: You are just hopping on a bandwagin Well.

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