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Speaker 1: this podcast is recorded on from Mamma Mia. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Spill your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodney

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Speaker 1: and I'm m Burnham. And today is we can watch

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Speaker 1: because it is Friday, where Emily and I bring you

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Speaker 1: the best new TV shows and movies of the week

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Speaker 1: that are coming out. But first we've got some new

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Speaker 1: recommendations of new TV shows that have just come out

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Speaker 1: this week. But you have a little movie wreck you

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Speaker 2: I did have a little movie wreck. It's not a

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Speaker 1: It's okay. I can be totally with.

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Speaker 2: The rules I made. I'm getting travel because I'm breaking

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Speaker 2: the rules. Came out in twenty twenty three. It's called

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Speaker 2: joy Ride. I feel like you've watched it, but we

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Speaker 1: No, I haven't watched it. I keep meaning to. Can

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Speaker 1: I tell you why I drove into make enemies? I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to make enemies? Okay, but I wasn't invited

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Speaker 1: to screening, but everyone else I know was, But I'm not.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch the movies. Haven't had a chance, and

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Speaker 2: So I watched it when I first came out on

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Speaker 2: So it's about these four best friends who travel to

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Speaker 2: So it's Ashley Park.

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Speaker 1: My god, as you know, one of my favorite actress

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Speaker 2: I feel like these movies are like so up my

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. So say the name

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Speaker 1: Yes, So put those all into an article and if

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Speaker 2: But anyway, Jeremy Allen White, yeah, pacifically.

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Speaker 1: Season four of Hacks has premiered on stand today, April eleven,

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Speaker 1: brand new season. I feel like we've been waiting forever,

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Speaker 1: So if you're not across Hacks, and can I just say,

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to be angry, and I don't mean

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Speaker 1: I have been yelling about this show for four years.

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Speaker 1: If you're not watching Hacks by now, there is something

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Speaker 1: think about the choices that you're making for your life. Really,

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Speaker 1: because you're the one. What I know you don't watched it,

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Speaker 1: acceptance speeches when they win Emmy. It does seem like

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Speaker 1: a great shot. I agree you so differently right now?

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Speaker 1: I just thought, because I've been yelling at you to

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Speaker 1: reviews over the year saying Hacks is. This is the

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Speaker 1: There's these articles anyway? Anyway, Well, you know what, this

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Speaker 1: work anyway, Hacks, honestly can't look at you right now. Stops.

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Speaker 1: I've never been so disappointed in a human being.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the turn's really change.

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Speaker 1: I know. I was so excited because I thought we

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Speaker 2: Pretended I had. Let's go back in time.

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Speaker 1: Na damage is done, the moment our friendship, Well, now

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Speaker 1: So there's going to be some obviously. So Hacks is

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Speaker 1: the incredible Gene smart In not just like the role

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Speaker 1: and so they get paired together. It's this whole kind

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Speaker 1: kind of like shows their dynamic. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: there because of like some black mail and their relationship

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Speaker 1: It's also the first time that their power dynamic is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Honestly, once you start, you will just not be

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Speaker 1: able to turn this show off. Okay, you in particular

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Speaker 1: All episodes are there. And if you like Emily and

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have one more recommendation that follows the rules.

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Speaker 2: It's out this week. After two full years, we've finally

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Speaker 1: That's all Moss, who is the leader of the show

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Speaker 1: season five, I feel like it was a massive cliffhanger.

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Speaker 1: We see that she has escaped from Gilliad. She's like

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Speaker 2: Like very archaic, strict way of how women should behave

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Speaker 2: pretty sure I like that last episode she gets like

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Speaker 1: Their dynamic in this first episode thing is crazy incredible,

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Speaker 2: To arc is crazy. She goes from villain to saint

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Speaker 2: Really said to see how this final season ends, because

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Speaker 2: Margaret Atwood's book A Handmaid's Tale, and then Margaret Atward's

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Speaker 1: So I think it would have not. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: I don't think we can get a happy ending because

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Speaker 1: That's the main storyline I care about having sort of

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Speaker 2: so well, and I'm very nervous for this next season.

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Speaker 2: But come wait, so Handmaid's Tale. The first three episodes

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Speaker 2: are out right now. You can watch it on SBS

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Speaker 2: on demand. Thank you so much for listening to this episode.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you tune back in at three pm for

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Speaker 2: a very special, brutally honest review. This bill is produced

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Speaker 2: by ned Green with sound production by Scott Johnick and

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Speaker 2: we will see you soon.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye bye