WEBVTT - What Happened To Amanda Bynes? 0:00:11.464 --> 0:00:14.144 You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. 0:00:14.784 --> 0:00:18.664 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:18.744 --> 0:00:22.504 that this podcast is recorded on. Hello Spillers, it's Laura 0:00:22.504 --> 0:00:25.584 Brodnick here. So we need to talk about Amanda Bynes, 0:00:25.704 --> 0:00:28.984 who was a star on the Nickelodeon channel and a 0:00:29.144 --> 0:00:31.904 huge star of so many movies in the two thousands. 0:00:31.944 --> 0:00:35.064 You might know her from Water Girl Wants Hair Spray. 0:00:35.264 --> 0:00:37.664 She's the man. She was really on top of the 0:00:37.704 --> 0:00:41.184 world in terms of fan base and work, and then 0:00:41.424 --> 0:00:43.384 things in her life started to take a bit of 0:00:43.424 --> 0:00:46.424 an unexpected turn. And this is a story you're about 0:00:46.464 --> 0:00:49.064 to hear on another Mamma Mia podcast that we've dropped 0:00:49.064 --> 0:00:53.024 into your feed today. Extraordinary Stories. So this podcast takes 0:00:53.024 --> 0:00:56.464 a very deep look into Amanda's rise to fame from 0:00:56.504 --> 0:00:59.984 her childhood to the challenges that she faced both personally 0:01:00.104 --> 0:01:03.304 and in the industry. And it also really deep dives 0:01:03.384 --> 0:01:06.024 into how the tabloids treated her and you know, the 0:01:06.064 --> 0:01:09.104 different stories that some media outlets were telling compared to 0:01:09.144 --> 0:01:11.664 what was actually happening by high in the scenes. So 0:01:11.704 --> 0:01:13.824 if you want to know more about Amanda Bayne's story, 0:01:14.144 --> 0:01:16.264 enjoy this episode. And we will link to part two 0:01:16.264 --> 0:01:17.504 of it in the show notes. 0:01:20.184 --> 0:01:22.704 Four port of a gasoline tank on fire and a 0:01:22.784 --> 0:01:25.464 draveway avenue a daily fabulist at more in part. 0:01:26.344 --> 0:01:29.704 It's eight pm on a late July evening in twenty 0:01:29.904 --> 0:01:35.904 thirteen summer in California in Leafy Quiet, Thousand Oaks, a 0:01:35.944 --> 0:01:39.224 well to do town just north of la Residents have 0:01:39.304 --> 0:01:43.944 run outside their homes to see a suburban driveway engulfed 0:01:44.064 --> 0:01:48.024 in flames. The blaze is burning hot and high. Flames 0:01:48.024 --> 0:01:50.504 are shooting two meters into the air from a plastic 0:01:50.584 --> 0:01:52.344 tank that's beginning to melt. 0:01:52.464 --> 0:01:56.384 And the gasoline tank. Yeah, there's hire. It's all on 0:01:56.424 --> 0:01:58.024 a gasoline tank yet. I don't know if there's any 0:01:58.024 --> 0:02:03.544 more gasoline in it. But no, thanks, everybody is nobody injured, No, 0:02:03.544 --> 0:02:08.424 no one's injured. How close is it to the house. 0:02:07.104 --> 0:02:11.664 It's decently close. It's about I would say five feet. 0:02:12.384 --> 0:02:14.864 One witness sees a woman lying down on the footpath 0:02:14.984 --> 0:02:18.064 near the road. She has a long, disheveled blonde wig 0:02:18.104 --> 0:02:21.344 on and she's holding a small ginger dog. The left 0:02:21.424 --> 0:02:25.744 leg of her tracksuit pant is black burnt. She gets 0:02:25.824 --> 0:02:27.904 up and tries to hail a cab, but the witness 0:02:27.944 --> 0:02:31.064 stops her. She calls out that she has to go. 0:02:31.184 --> 0:02:33.704 The young woman says her dog is covered in petrol 0:02:33.904 --> 0:02:37.064 and has been singed in the fire, so she walks 0:02:37.104 --> 0:02:41.384 down the street and into a nearby bottle shop. Seemingly 0:02:41.544 --> 0:02:44.864 unaware of the commotion around her. The woman heads out 0:02:44.944 --> 0:02:46.944 to the back of the store and tries to wash 0:02:47.024 --> 0:02:50.184 the petrel off her small dog. The owner tells her 0:02:50.264 --> 0:02:53.864 to leave, and moments later she's picked up by police, 0:02:54.584 --> 0:02:58.944 who have some questions. What was she doing there? Did 0:02:58.944 --> 0:03:01.344 she know the people who lived at that house? Did 0:03:01.384 --> 0:03:04.784 she start the fire? Why would she do that? None 0:03:04.864 --> 0:03:06.384 of her answers make sense. 0:03:07.264 --> 0:03:09.624 She got done for a dui for John Counder, the 0:03:09.624 --> 0:03:13.424 influence drive while under the influence drug possession, and then 0:03:13.464 --> 0:03:16.184 it was when she led a fire in a neighbour's 0:03:16.624 --> 0:03:21.144 backyard driveway or something had never really been explained why 0:03:21.184 --> 0:03:22.744 she did how she came to do that. 0:03:23.424 --> 0:03:26.424 The woman in the disheveled blonde wig at the center 0:03:26.544 --> 0:03:31.224 of the petrol fire is Amanda Vines. She's a twenty 0:03:31.264 --> 0:03:34.704 seven year old actor, once revered as comedy's next big thing, 0:03:35.304 --> 0:03:37.824 A young hopeful thought to have grown into a rare 0:03:37.864 --> 0:03:41.184 success story in a city of child stars gone rogue. 0:03:41.664 --> 0:03:46.264 But this latest crisis wasn't an isolated affair. Amanda Biynes 0:03:46.304 --> 0:03:51.104 had been publicly spiraling for months, and in private, her 0:03:51.144 --> 0:04:05.264 life had been unraveling for years. Welcome to episode one 0:04:05.384 --> 0:04:09.864 of extraordinary Stories, What happened to Amanda Bynes in the 0:04:09.904 --> 0:04:14.264 midnor Amanda Vines was a proper star for years. The 0:04:14.304 --> 0:04:17.744 former Nickelodeon child actor was loved for her goofy antics 0:04:17.744 --> 0:04:20.864 on kids' TV and for her comedic chops in teen 0:04:20.944 --> 0:04:24.144 movie roles. But just as her career was starting to 0:04:24.224 --> 0:04:27.744 mature when she was landing her roles with Hollywood heavyweights, 0:04:28.224 --> 0:04:33.664 Amanda Vines dropped off the radar. But before she disappeared completely, 0:04:34.184 --> 0:04:40.184 an erratic series of events unfolded. Frequent arrests, stories of drugs, booze, 0:04:40.384 --> 0:04:45.184 unpredictable behavior sparked a whole new level of paparazzi frenzy 0:04:45.304 --> 0:04:49.184 around Amanda. Adding fuel to the fire was her social 0:04:49.264 --> 0:04:54.584 media presence. In twenty thirteen, there were months of chaotic tweeting, 0:04:55.064 --> 0:04:59.224 often pointedly and painfully aimed at other famous names, all 0:04:59.344 --> 0:05:03.944 signals of a woman prepared to burn bridges. I'm Emma 0:05:03.944 --> 0:05:18.664 Gillespie and this is extraordinary stories. If you were growing 0:05:18.744 --> 0:05:22.464 up in the early two thousands, you probably watched Nickelodeon 0:05:22.504 --> 0:05:25.824 on your living room TV, or you might have desperately 0:05:25.864 --> 0:05:29.144 begged your parents to get Old Star or Foxtel Australia 0:05:29.144 --> 0:05:32.344 as PayTV of the era so you could watch it. 0:05:33.024 --> 0:05:35.224 Or maybe went over to your mate's house after school 0:05:35.224 --> 0:05:38.824 because she had Foxtail. Maybe you binged as much as 0:05:38.824 --> 0:05:41.344 you could on family holidays if you were lucky enough 0:05:41.384 --> 0:05:43.344 to stay at a motel with one of those big 0:05:43.384 --> 0:05:46.744 os star signs outside. It's hard to imagine with the 0:05:46.824 --> 0:05:50.504 rise of subscription video on demand services, but in those days, 0:05:51.024 --> 0:05:53.904 kids TV channels like the Disney Channel and cut Her 0:05:54.024 --> 0:05:59.144 Network were everything, and the king of those channels Nickelodeon, 0:05:59.864 --> 0:06:01.224 Nick Nick, Nick. 0:06:01.144 --> 0:06:06.824 Nick Nicola, Nick Nickick Nick Nick. 0:06:06.664 --> 0:06:13.184 Colonia, SpongeBob, Square Fans, Rugrats, Fairly Odd Parents, Cat Dog, 0:06:13.264 --> 0:06:17.344 The Wild, Thornberries, so many. The list goes on, and 0:06:17.384 --> 0:06:20.544 we couldn't get enough of it. But for fans, the 0:06:20.584 --> 0:06:24.544 real draw cards of Nickelodeon's programming didn't stop at the cartoons. 0:06:24.944 --> 0:06:28.264 They were ensemble shows and sketch comedies that cast young 0:06:28.424 --> 0:06:38.824 up and coming actors, including a series called All That 0:06:41.864 --> 0:06:59.464 Keenan and Kell and later The Amanda Show. For the 0:06:59.464 --> 0:07:02.984 most part, Ananda Bynd's journey to fame is pretty typical 0:07:03.024 --> 0:07:05.664 of that child star narrative we've come to know. She 0:07:05.784 --> 0:07:08.304 was living a fairly normal life as the youngest of 0:07:08.384 --> 0:07:12.864 three kids with her parents in Oaks, California. She'd always 0:07:12.904 --> 0:07:17.104 loved performing and was in local stage productions. By age seven, 0:07:17.424 --> 0:07:20.664 Amanda's parents got her an agent and she'd started booking 0:07:20.664 --> 0:07:25.144 television commercials. Her big break, though, came when she was 0:07:25.224 --> 0:07:28.064 ten years old at a kid's comedy camp in LA 0:07:28.744 --> 0:07:31.744 when she was spotted by a Nickelodeon producer. 0:07:32.144 --> 0:07:36.904 My DearS al was blowing me, slow down, take it easy, 0:07:37.464 --> 0:07:38.584 take a breather. 0:07:38.944 --> 0:07:41.584 Hang a loose, chill out, take a break. 0:07:43.584 --> 0:07:45.264 Why did I wanted chick a? 0:07:45.344 --> 0:07:45.984 Bring you home? 0:07:48.384 --> 0:07:49.544 Want a school for. 0:07:51.144 --> 0:07:53.904 That's one of her first stand up gigs ever, And 0:07:53.944 --> 0:07:55.824 you can hear in this talk show interview from when 0:07:55.864 --> 0:07:58.784 she was twelve in nineteen ninety nine that even back 0:07:58.824 --> 0:08:03.464 then she had charisma and a big personality, which meant 0:08:03.504 --> 0:08:05.144 she could hold her own in the spotlight. 0:08:06.104 --> 0:08:07.864 And then there was like a graduation night, and that's 0:08:07.864 --> 0:08:10.544 where the producers of the show, like Brian Robinson Dan 0:08:10.544 --> 0:08:12.224 Schneider came on the show and they told me there 0:08:12.384 --> 0:08:12.864 and that was it. 0:08:12.904 --> 0:08:15.904 You just got discovered right after the comedy care Yeah. 0:08:15.464 --> 0:08:17.384 Your dad in show business. You say, he knows you well. 0:08:17.424 --> 0:08:19.744 He likes to do comedy and so, you know, I've 0:08:19.744 --> 0:08:21.504 always liked, liked doing comedy, so you know. 0:08:21.504 --> 0:08:23.704 He would he what does he do for a living. 0:08:23.784 --> 0:08:29.304 He's a dentist. So yeah, well my dad, you know, 0:08:29.344 --> 0:08:30.184 he makes everybody laugh. 0:08:30.224 --> 0:08:30.664 So that's school. 0:08:30.704 --> 0:08:32.144 So they don't like mind going to the dentist. 0:08:32.224 --> 0:08:33.664 Yeah, I'm gonna go to a commercial. You want to 0:08:33.704 --> 0:08:37.304 keep talking, you can keep talking, Okay, I want to 0:08:37.304 --> 0:08:37.824 talk to you more. 0:08:38.384 --> 0:08:39.824 Amanda Bynes, I'll be back with more of. 0:08:42.984 --> 0:08:45.264 But a few years after her role in the ensemble 0:08:45.344 --> 0:08:48.984 cast of All That, Amanda's big personality scored her something 0:08:49.024 --> 0:08:52.744 most performers don't see in the entire careers. She was 0:08:52.784 --> 0:08:55.864 plucked out and told by the Nickelodeon producers that they 0:08:55.904 --> 0:09:00.944 wanted to frame an entire series around her. She would 0:09:00.984 --> 0:09:05.144 have the starring role in her very own show, The 0:09:05.224 --> 0:09:09.544 Amanda Show. Laura Brodnick is the entertainment editor at Mamma 0:09:09.624 --> 0:09:12.784 Maya and the host of pop culture podcast This Bill. 0:09:13.184 --> 0:09:17.064 She says the ensemble show had broad appeal to millennials. 0:09:16.624 --> 0:09:19.344 So she would obviously come and host it almost like 0:09:19.904 --> 0:09:21.984 I guess very loosely to describe it as almost a 0:09:22.104 --> 0:09:24.184 kid's Saturday Night Live. So she would come out and 0:09:24.184 --> 0:09:26.464 do a bit of an opening oneolog with jokes. There 0:09:26.504 --> 0:09:28.944 would be sketches and skits where she would star as 0:09:28.944 --> 0:09:31.584 different characters. She would often bring the same character out 0:09:31.624 --> 0:09:34.384 multiple times so people got to know them. They would 0:09:34.384 --> 0:09:36.624 sometimes be guest stars, and it was this really kind 0:09:36.664 --> 0:09:40.944 of wholesome content that became the backbone of the Nickelodeon network, 0:09:40.984 --> 0:09:43.104 which at the time and I guess very much still 0:09:43.264 --> 0:09:45.944 is the main source of children's entertainment on TV. 0:09:49.344 --> 0:09:54.984 Oh Man, this is an excellent past silent Angels for Amanda. 0:09:55.344 --> 0:09:58.824 Amanda's fans related to her on screen persona never the 0:09:58.904 --> 0:10:01.464 mean girl or in the popular group. She had a 0:10:01.504 --> 0:10:04.424 down to earth quality that really struck a chord with 0:10:04.504 --> 0:10:05.704 her tween aged audience. 0:10:05.904 --> 0:10:09.064 Think there was just a wholesomeness to her. There was 0:10:09.144 --> 0:10:11.624 and also just her del livery. She had a really 0:10:11.784 --> 0:10:15.264 intense comic ability to make fun of herself and was 0:10:15.304 --> 0:10:17.584 a very good character actress, which is something that you 0:10:17.624 --> 0:10:20.064 really saw later on when she became a movie star 0:10:20.144 --> 0:10:23.264 as well, is that she was able to embody these characters. 0:10:23.824 --> 0:10:25.664 And they used to have a live audience for the 0:10:25.664 --> 0:10:28.144 Amanda Show, so when she came out, you could kind 0:10:28.144 --> 0:10:30.304 of see the audience would which was all kids pretty 0:10:30.384 --> 0:10:32.784 much up on their feet, cheering and smiling for her 0:10:32.824 --> 0:10:35.984 before she had even started her first joke. So once 0:10:36.024 --> 0:10:38.704 she kind of built up that cult following, and also 0:10:38.744 --> 0:10:41.024 that show began to replay and people would buy all 0:10:41.064 --> 0:10:44.184 the merchandise for it, it was almost like she became 0:10:44.384 --> 0:10:47.104 a brand, and that's why people just continually fell in 0:10:47.104 --> 0:10:47.584 love with her. 0:10:49.824 --> 0:10:52.064 Even though she's been out of the limelight for quite 0:10:52.104 --> 0:10:55.544 a while, there still seems to be an enduring affection 0:10:55.704 --> 0:10:58.384 from her fans for a time in their childhoods when 0:10:58.424 --> 0:11:02.264 they idolized Amanda. Here's what a bunch of millennials had 0:11:02.304 --> 0:11:02.664 to say. 0:11:02.864 --> 0:11:05.984 I was obsessed with Amanda Vines. I thought she was 0:11:06.064 --> 0:11:09.504 the queen of Nickelodeon, and I would literally sit in 0:11:09.504 --> 0:11:12.264 front of the TV and watch her religiously in the 0:11:12.304 --> 0:11:15.584 Amanda Show. I just thought she was so talented and 0:11:15.624 --> 0:11:18.384 so incredible because she would never fail to make me 0:11:18.464 --> 0:11:20.704 laugh no matter what character she was playing. 0:11:20.864 --> 0:11:24.104 I watched The Amanda Byn Show when I was around ten, eleven, 0:11:24.144 --> 0:11:28.384 and twelve, and I absolutely loved it because at the time, 0:11:28.464 --> 0:11:31.224 she just seemed like the most relatable girl on TV. 0:11:31.944 --> 0:11:34.864 It just seemed like you could be her friend, or 0:11:34.944 --> 0:11:38.544 she'd be your friend. She was funny. She wasn't afraid 0:11:38.544 --> 0:11:40.784 to make fun of herself or be a bit silly 0:11:40.864 --> 0:11:43.784 and goofy, which I think is exactly what you need 0:11:44.304 --> 0:11:46.464 at that time in your life. 0:11:46.624 --> 0:11:50.304 I never felt that Amanda was too cool or different 0:11:50.304 --> 0:11:54.024 from me. She had that thing that feels really special. 0:11:54.224 --> 0:11:56.424 It was like she was a young Jennifer Aniston. 0:11:56.544 --> 0:11:59.864 Even The show was a huge success for Nickelodeon and 0:11:59.904 --> 0:12:04.504 for Amanda, who quickly rose to child star status. As 0:12:04.544 --> 0:12:07.384 relatable as she was to kids, Amanda was also gaining 0:12:07.624 --> 0:12:11.344 serious star power, carving out of space herself as one 0:12:11.344 --> 0:12:15.904 of the original Nickelodeon stars the same place names like 0:12:16.024 --> 0:12:19.944 Ariana Grande, Melissa Joan Hart, and Emma Roberts got their starts. 0:12:20.544 --> 0:12:23.384 Though Amanda was young, she'd made a name for herself 0:12:23.824 --> 0:12:29.144 as a talent with serious comedic chops. Kathie Lee Giffard, 0:12:29.144 --> 0:12:31.984 a former host on a US morning TV show, worked 0:12:32.024 --> 0:12:35.224 with Amanda at the time and recalled how she had 0:12:35.304 --> 0:12:37.304 an old school quality to her acting. 0:12:37.664 --> 0:12:38.384 But you worked with. 0:12:38.344 --> 0:12:40.904 Her a long time ago, did I did when she 0:12:40.984 --> 0:12:44.544 had her Amanda Show on Nickelodeon, and found her to 0:12:44.624 --> 0:12:48.464 be so unbelievably refreshing in that for inst of all, 0:12:49.024 --> 0:12:52.904 she's so so talented, so funny. Working with her, I 0:12:52.944 --> 0:12:55.944 felt like it was like what Lucille Ball must have 0:12:55.944 --> 0:12:56.224 been like. 0:12:56.304 --> 0:12:56.704 Early on. 0:12:57.424 --> 0:12:59.704 It was that good, and her family was all around 0:12:59.744 --> 0:13:02.664 her and they all seemed very, very grounded. 0:13:02.904 --> 0:13:05.864 But after three seasons on the show, at age fifteen, 0:13:06.104 --> 0:13:08.544 Amanda was ready for something new. She told The New 0:13:08.624 --> 0:13:10.584 York Times that she knew she didn't want to be 0:13:10.584 --> 0:13:13.904 a Nickelodeon kid when she was thirty, and so she 0:13:13.984 --> 0:13:17.824 began the transition from child star into grown up, real 0:13:17.904 --> 0:13:21.824 life actor. In two thousand and two, Amanda made her 0:13:21.864 --> 0:13:25.824 debut in the children's adventure comedy Big Fat Liar, alongside 0:13:25.944 --> 0:13:28.584 Frankie MOONI is remember that kid from Malcolm in the 0:13:28.624 --> 0:13:33.264 Middle him, Amanda played his best friend, Slash Quirky sidekick, 0:13:33.344 --> 0:13:35.984 while he gave Paul Giamati, who played the bad guy, 0:13:36.424 --> 0:13:41.024 his comeuppance. Overall, it was a commercial success, but as 0:13:41.104 --> 0:13:45.424 Laura Brodnick says, it was Amanda's first leading role. Afterwards, 0:13:45.624 --> 0:13:48.944 when she really started to earn herself that industry cred. 0:13:49.224 --> 0:13:51.424 Her first kind of big leading role was in the 0:13:51.424 --> 0:13:53.864 two thousand and three movie What a Girl Wants, an 0:13:53.904 --> 0:13:57.184 absolute classics still to this day, I would say. And 0:13:57.224 --> 0:13:59.464 the interesting thing is is that even though she had 0:13:59.464 --> 0:14:02.864 that huge on screen TV fame, it doesn't always translate 0:14:02.944 --> 0:14:06.304 for actresses around that time into being able to actually 0:14:06.344 --> 0:14:09.304 anchor a movie and promote it. And the stakes are 0:14:09.344 --> 0:14:11.504 so much higher and there's much more money at stake. 0:14:11.864 --> 0:14:15.344 And even though the movie itself didn't get great reviews, 0:14:15.384 --> 0:14:18.184 like the critical reception wasn't great, what it did do 0:14:18.304 --> 0:14:20.824 was actually open quite strongly at the box office. I 0:14:20.824 --> 0:14:23.144 think it opened at number two at the time, which 0:14:23.184 --> 0:14:26.224 at the time those movie ratings before streaming services, that 0:14:26.344 --> 0:14:29.304 was a huge deal. The movie had to have success 0:14:29.384 --> 0:14:31.304 in the first week for it to be considered an 0:14:31.344 --> 0:14:34.424 overall success. So the fact that this smaller movie opened 0:14:34.424 --> 0:14:36.984 at number two was a big deal, and the reception 0:14:37.064 --> 0:14:40.664 to her in that leading role was pretty much hugely popular, 0:14:40.744 --> 0:14:42.944 so critics were saying, look, the movie's not that great, 0:14:43.424 --> 0:14:46.504 Paul Colin Firth's not that good, but Amanda Bynes is 0:14:46.504 --> 0:14:49.104 a movie star, and you saw her get a much 0:14:49.144 --> 0:14:52.704 bigger international audience, and also with the kind of older 0:14:52.784 --> 0:14:55.384 teenage young adult demographic who might not have seen The 0:14:55.384 --> 0:14:57.544 Amanda Show or maybe we're just a bit too old 0:14:57.544 --> 0:15:00.784 for Nickelodeon also fell in love with her in that movie, 0:15:00.824 --> 0:15:03.144 so it kind of cemented her as a box office 0:15:03.144 --> 0:15:04.024 star right out. 0:15:03.864 --> 0:15:04.224 Of the gate. 0:15:06.144 --> 0:15:11.104 Suddenly, Amanda Vines was everywhere, having scored dozen of nominations 0:15:11.104 --> 0:15:14.264 and wins at Teen Choice Awards. She landed another role 0:15:14.344 --> 0:15:17.584 in a Warner Brothers sitcom called What I Like About You, 0:15:18.024 --> 0:15:21.024 co starring with ninety soap star Jenny Garth from Beverly 0:15:21.104 --> 0:15:24.464 Hills nine O two one zero. From there, Amanda became 0:15:24.584 --> 0:15:27.424 part of a posse of young actresses rising through the 0:15:27.424 --> 0:15:31.344 Hollywood ranks. In two thousand and three, she and eight 0:15:31.464 --> 0:15:34.264 other teen starlets of the day posed for a Vanity 0:15:34.304 --> 0:15:36.984 Fair piece called Its Raining Teens. 0:15:37.224 --> 0:15:39.904 The photo shoot for the issue on stands Next Tuesday 0:15:40.104 --> 0:15:43.504 brought together the hottest most bankable teenage titans in the 0:15:43.544 --> 0:15:47.424 business get Getting the Tree from Mary Kate and Ashley 0:15:47.464 --> 0:15:50.824 to Amanda Vines, Hillary Duff to Mandy Moore. The shoot 0:15:50.904 --> 0:15:53.544 marked the first time most of these teen queens had 0:15:53.584 --> 0:15:54.144 ever met. 0:15:55.024 --> 0:15:58.824 Styled in various shades of pink, the Olsen Twins, Mandy Moore, 0:15:58.944 --> 0:16:03.664 Lindy Loewen, Alexis Bledell, Evan, Rachel Wood, Raven Simone, and 0:16:03.824 --> 0:16:08.064 Hillary Duff filled a fold out cover spread in the magazine, 0:16:08.544 --> 0:16:11.664 a bit like a collection of Barbie doll It was 0:16:11.904 --> 0:16:16.704 the pinnacle of teen pop culture. The story itself was 0:16:16.824 --> 0:16:18.824 a series of q and as, with each of them 0:16:19.144 --> 0:16:22.544 asking all the important questions of these teen stars, what 0:16:22.664 --> 0:16:25.904 their favorite lip gloss was, how many juicy cature outfits 0:16:25.944 --> 0:16:30.584 they had heavy stuff For the record, seventeen year old 0:16:30.584 --> 0:16:34.064 Amanda had eight tracksuits and her favorite lip gloss was 0:16:34.104 --> 0:16:38.104 long com juicy tubes. She also revealed who she looked 0:16:38.184 --> 0:16:38.424 up to. 0:16:38.704 --> 0:16:40.744 Asked her who her idol was, and she said Jennifer 0:16:40.744 --> 0:16:42.384 Aniston and I looked at her. 0:16:42.424 --> 0:16:44.744 I was like, wow, she actually does have a very 0:16:44.824 --> 0:16:46.464 much a jen Anison quad. 0:16:46.784 --> 0:16:50.344 Amanda Stark kept rising over the next few years, then 0:16:50.504 --> 0:16:54.184 a decade after she started show business, she landed her 0:16:54.264 --> 0:16:58.224 breakout role in two thousand and six, she was cast 0:16:58.264 --> 0:17:02.584 in teen classic She's the Man? Do quants Olibya? 0:17:02.784 --> 0:17:04.744 Do you think she is? 0:17:04.824 --> 0:17:05.784 Who wants the best? 0:17:05.864 --> 0:17:07.024 Gen? Hasn't he cute? 0:17:07.104 --> 0:17:07.744 How you doing? 0:17:07.904 --> 0:17:07.984 Bee? 0:17:08.704 --> 0:17:08.824 Who? 0:17:09.304 --> 0:17:10.184 Who is really by? 0:17:10.704 --> 0:17:14.184 Whose brother is dating Monique? So she hates Olivia who's 0:17:14.304 --> 0:17:14.944 dating Duke? 0:17:15.144 --> 0:17:16.824 To make Sebastion jealous? 0:17:16.824 --> 0:17:20.104 What does your can't tell you which one would you 0:17:20.184 --> 0:17:20.624 rather see? 0:17:20.784 --> 0:17:21.224 Naked? 0:17:22.544 --> 0:17:24.904 If you've made it this far into the podcast, I'm 0:17:24.944 --> 0:17:28.104 going to assume you've seen this film, because this retelling 0:17:28.144 --> 0:17:31.264 of Shakespeare's Twelfth Night, set in an American high school 0:17:31.304 --> 0:17:35.744 soccer team, has become Amanda Bin's most iconic on camera performance. 0:17:36.384 --> 0:17:39.584 As with the original play, the character she plays, Viola, 0:17:39.904 --> 0:17:43.224 must disguise herself as a boy in the modern take, 0:17:43.544 --> 0:17:46.824 a love triangle ensues, and a bunch of just iconic 0:17:46.904 --> 0:17:47.504 one liners. 0:17:47.584 --> 0:17:48.264 Who are you play? 0:17:48.344 --> 0:17:49.064 The beautiful game? 0:17:49.344 --> 0:17:49.504 Bro? 0:17:50.344 --> 0:17:52.064 Brothers? Brother? 0:17:52.304 --> 0:17:52.624 You know? 0:17:52.744 --> 0:17:53.064 Bruh? 0:17:53.064 --> 0:17:53.304 Okay? 0:17:53.464 --> 0:17:56.384 Why do you have tampons in your boot? 0:17:57.184 --> 0:17:58.464 I get really bad nosebleeds? 0:17:58.664 --> 0:18:00.384 Do you like it? 0:18:00.544 --> 0:18:00.824 Gees? 0:18:01.544 --> 0:18:02.144 Well? Why yes? 0:18:02.224 --> 0:18:02.504 I do? 0:18:02.944 --> 0:18:03.904 My favorite Scuda. 0:18:04.544 --> 0:18:07.384 The movie also introduced a brand new leading man into 0:18:07.384 --> 0:18:11.984 Hollywood who went by the name of Channing, which I'm 0:18:12.064 --> 0:18:15.184 sure we're all pretty thankful for too. But the film 0:18:15.264 --> 0:18:18.144 itself had clout well before Amanda was cast in it. 0:18:18.704 --> 0:18:22.064 The script writers Kristin Smith and Karen McCulla lutts, with 0:18:22.224 --> 0:18:26.224 the same female duo responsible for Legally Blonde and the 0:18:26.304 --> 0:18:30.464 nineteen ninety nine smash hitteenth flick Ten Things I Hate 0:18:30.504 --> 0:18:33.784 About You, which of course launched the careers of Heath 0:18:33.864 --> 0:18:38.024 Ledger and Julia Stiles. As the writers recalled during a 0:18:38.064 --> 0:18:41.344 guest seminar at the University of California a few years ago, 0:18:41.704 --> 0:18:44.264 they were impressed with what Amanda was able to bring 0:18:44.304 --> 0:18:47.064 to the lines on the page. What are your favorite 0:18:47.104 --> 0:18:51.704 lines in She's the Man? I got a lectum and 0:18:51.744 --> 0:18:59.384 knowledge makes me that the cheers conversation, Yeah, that was 0:18:59.384 --> 0:19:03.664 really I like, good at Thanks. Who's my favorite? 0:19:04.144 --> 0:19:05.944 She's so brilliant in that movie. 0:19:06.064 --> 0:19:08.464 She's It's such a surreal perform. 0:19:09.864 --> 0:19:10.824 Here's law again. 0:19:10.944 --> 0:19:13.344 People still quote that role, you know, people say that's 0:19:13.344 --> 0:19:15.064 why they fell in love with Chatting Tatum and he 0:19:15.104 --> 0:19:17.184 went to have one a big career, and it kind 0:19:17.224 --> 0:19:19.984 of showed her that she could be that more comedic actress. 0:19:20.264 --> 0:19:22.624 And when that movie came out, people were saying, she's 0:19:22.664 --> 0:19:25.264 the next Cameron Diaz, She's the next Stree Barrymore, She's 0:19:25.304 --> 0:19:26.944 the next Reese with a Spoon. Like they thought she 0:19:26.984 --> 0:19:28.904 was going to kind of jump to that next level 0:19:29.264 --> 0:19:31.984 and start headlining those big blockbuster movies. 0:19:33.984 --> 0:19:37.064 But what would become her most loved movie role triggered 0:19:37.184 --> 0:19:40.904 something dark inside Amanda. Even in the press too interviews 0:19:40.904 --> 0:19:43.504 she did with Channing Tatum at the time, it's clear 0:19:43.544 --> 0:19:47.904 to see that the role, the switching between genders, didn't 0:19:47.904 --> 0:19:48.784 sit well with her. 0:19:49.264 --> 0:19:51.544 Now, between takes or when you were at lunch and things, 0:19:51.544 --> 0:19:53.664 did you kind of keep it up as a guy 0:19:53.704 --> 0:19:54.544 when you're dressed up? 0:19:54.664 --> 0:19:56.864 I was so tired I think of doing the voice 0:19:56.904 --> 0:19:58.824 that you know, like I wouldn't do it at that point. 0:19:58.864 --> 0:20:02.184 But but it was really fun. And I even when 0:20:02.224 --> 0:20:04.304 I was off like dressing, even when I was a guy. 0:20:04.384 --> 0:20:06.464 I mean, even though it was uncomfortable, I still had fun. 0:20:06.504 --> 0:20:08.384 And I wish I was a girl the whole time 0:20:08.384 --> 0:20:11.104 because then it was me. But but that's what makes 0:20:11.104 --> 0:20:11.944 this movie different. 0:20:12.424 --> 0:20:15.704 But if she was feeling uncomfortable, she wasn't showing it. 0:20:16.304 --> 0:20:18.984 In fact, Amanda was so good at hiding the cracks 0:20:19.024 --> 0:20:21.864 that were starting to form. She presented to the world 0:20:21.904 --> 0:20:26.104 as this perfect, happy, good girl, and that good girl 0:20:26.144 --> 0:20:30.024 image came up over and over again in interviews, even 0:20:30.064 --> 0:20:33.384 by our own Rove McManus when Amanda flew to Sydney 0:20:33.464 --> 0:20:35.664 to promote She's the man on Rove Live. 0:20:36.504 --> 0:20:38.984 You're a nineteen twenty year old here, you're living in 0:20:38.984 --> 0:20:42.864 Hollywood or living the life of a Hollywood star. How 0:20:42.984 --> 0:20:45.784 is it that you get to avoid all that kind 0:20:45.784 --> 0:20:48.504 of tabloid stuff, all that You see a lot of 0:20:49.104 --> 0:20:52.064 young starlets in Hollywood who fall off the tracks. How 0:20:52.064 --> 0:20:53.624 have you managed to avoid all of that? 0:20:54.984 --> 0:20:58.424 You know, I think there are so many girls who 0:20:58.544 --> 0:21:00.784 go to parties and like are photographed doing it and 0:21:01.104 --> 0:21:03.824 sort of I think they feed off of it, and 0:21:03.864 --> 0:21:06.984 I think it makes them feel like, you know, more 0:21:07.024 --> 0:21:09.184 of it, like more of a celebrity or something, and 0:21:09.224 --> 0:21:10.904 it just that's not who I am. And I feel 0:21:10.944 --> 0:21:12.744 like you don't need one more. You know, There's so 0:21:12.744 --> 0:21:14.944 many girls who are doing that, So I'm going like 0:21:14.984 --> 0:21:16.904 the other route and I want to just sort of, 0:21:17.264 --> 0:21:19.224 you know, try to be a good role model for kids. 0:21:19.224 --> 0:21:22.184 And you know, still grow up but sort of you know, 0:21:22.264 --> 0:21:25.544