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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm Taylor Strano. This is MMA MEA's twice daily

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Speaker 2: news podcast, The Quickie.

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Speaker 3: What do you tell a kid under.

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Speaker 2: You could just tell them it's against the law. The

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Speaker 2: Australian government has just announced the video sharing platform in

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Speaker 2: its social media band for kids, set to come into

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Speaker 2: effect later this year. Plus, the movie industry can't seem

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Speaker 2: to stop with the sequels and reboots. Is this good?

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Speaker 4: Bad?

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Speaker 2: Or just business? Before we get there, here's Claire Murphy

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Speaker 2: with the latest from the Quickie newsroom for Thursday, July

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Speaker 1: Thanks Taylor. A powerful magnitude eight point eight earthquake off

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Speaker 1: Rusha's far eastern Campchuka Coast has trigger tsunami warnings as

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Speaker 1: far away as French, Polynesia and Chile, and was followed

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Speaker 1: The shallow quake damaged buildings and injured several people in

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Speaker 1: eastern seaboard, devastated by a nine point zero magnitude earthquake

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Speaker 1: and tsunami in twenty eleven were ordered to leave, as

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Speaker 1: were residents in parts of Hawaii. Authorities in Japan, Hawaii,

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Speaker 1: and Russia have now downgraded their tsunami warnings. Russian scientists

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Speaker 1: say the quake in Kamchatka was the most powerful to

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Speaker 1: flooding the port and a fish processing plant in the

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Speaker 1: town of Severo Kiilsk, sweeping vessels from their moorings. Verified

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Speaker 1: drone footage shows the town's entire shorelines submerged, with taller

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Speaker 1: buildings and some storage facilities surrounded by water. The Klutchevskoy

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Speaker 1: volcano on Russia's Kamchuka Peninsula began erupting after the quakes.

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Speaker 1: A flow of lava observed descending down its western slope.

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Speaker 1: Located about four hundred and fifty kilometers north of the

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Speaker 1: regional capital, Petro Pavlos Kamchatsky Klutchevskoy is one of the

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Speaker 1: highest volcanoes in the world. The property at the center

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Speaker 1: of a deadly mushroom lunch has been restrained by the court.

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Speaker 1: After Aaron Patterson was found guilty of triple murder, Victorian

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court Justice Michelle quickly granted the confiscation application over

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Speaker 1: Pattison's Leon Gathera property. Following a closed court hearing earlier

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Speaker 1: this is to ensure that if any family members of

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Speaker 1: Miss Pattison's victims apply for compensation or restitution, the property

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Speaker 1: the court. Pattison was found guilty of murdering her former

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Speaker 1: Heather's husband Ian. The jury found she deliberately served the

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Speaker 1: Two people have been seriously injured after a minibus transporting

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Speaker 2: Twenty Thanks Claire Next YouTube added to the social media blacklist.

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Speaker 2: We're just four months away from a huge shakeup in

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Speaker 2: how Australian kids use social media. The national ban on

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Speaker 2: under sixteen's having accounts is about to get even stricter.

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Speaker 2: From December tenth, it will be against the law for

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Speaker 2: This we already knew. As of yesterday, though the list

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Speaker 2: Now If a platform doesn't comply, the government can hit

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Speaker 2: If you ask YouTube, they say they're not a social

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Speaker 5: Following advice from the e Safety Commissioner, young people under

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Speaker 2: Enforcement and the rollout of these age verification steps are

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Speaker 2: platforms like YouTube are still accessible even without an account.

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Speaker 2: As a reminder, the social media ban will be applicable

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Speaker 2: YouTube Kids, the child friendly version of the platform designed

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Speaker 2: specifically for under thirteens that has age appropriate videos and

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Speaker 2: parental controls will still exist. And for parents of teens

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Speaker 2: features offered on other platforms like Instagram's teen accounts, which

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Speaker 2: our show notes. For families and kids, it's a major

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Speaker 2: shift the tech companies. It's a new era of regulation

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Speaker 2: another platform added to the list of those barred for

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Speaker 2: under sixteens, just in time for when summer holidays begin. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I am almost scared to ask this next question. Do

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Speaker 2: we really need all these sequels and reboots? In the

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Speaker 2: twenty fifth anniversary. Writer and director Grinda Chater has confirmed

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Speaker 2: our favorite sporty girls, those ones juggling aspirations of professional

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Speaker 2: sport and cultural obligation, will be back for Bend It

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Speaker 2: Like Beckham two in twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Even these mosquito bites would look like juicy, juicy mangos.

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, nearly twenty years since fashion's most terrifying

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Speaker 2: But why do we keep remaking and rebooting our favorite

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Speaker 3: Obviously not always the case, a lot of them have recently,

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Speaker 3: It's hard because I am very, very guilty of seeing

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think obviously, like production knows if you're

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Speaker 3: No from you. Are you ready? I'm scared?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, Okay, this one we heard about already this week.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is one of my favorite movies of all time.

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Speaker 2: go on, Well, there's a book, so I'm cool with it.

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Speaker 2: The author continued the story. I know what's happening.

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Speaker 2: Okay, this one is confirmed. It's actually going to be

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Speaker 2: Thirteen going on, thirty no, and ten Things I Hate

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking some time to feed your mind with

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Speaker 2: The Quickie is produced by me Taylor Strano, and Clare Murphy,

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