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Speaker 1: So if you're doing a makeup or maybe driving your

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Speaker 1: you out bougie and budget product recommendations of the week.

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Speaker 1: Now look that we're all Bessie Leslie friends, best friends,

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Speaker 1: best you stick together. Today on the show, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about our approach to getting older. But first, Lucy, you

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Speaker 1: have some Glossier hit some missus for us.

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Speaker 2: I do. Glossier has launched into Mecca, which I know

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Speaker 2: most of our ubi's will already know because of the launch.

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Speaker 1: Oh so everywhere it was also like all over mainstream

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Speaker 3: They were talking about it on the ABC. I was like,

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Speaker 2: So look, it's not breaking news. But I wanted to

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Speaker 2: years and I've tried a lot of their products. I've

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Speaker 2: And I will say their stores overseas are an experience. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're really cool. Everything is like laid out like a showroom.

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Speaker 2: You don't necessarily take something off the shelf. You put

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Speaker 2: I collected it from this automatic conveyor belt. My little

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Speaker 3: With my things packed.

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Speaker 2: So it's really cool experience in the store. But it

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Speaker 2: now fits with her whole kind of aesthetic.

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Speaker 1: Aesthetic of everything being instagrammable, Like that's what the whole

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Speaker 2: I've tried a lot of their products, so hopefully I

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Speaker 1: Please, I've never tried any of their products huge, so

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Speaker 1: I'm like very excited to get the revested. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Okay, Lucy m Neville.

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Speaker 2: Can I just say it goes without saying. If I

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Speaker 2: I've all got different faves. So let's start with my

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Speaker 2: So it comes in three sizes, ranging from fifty three

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Speaker 2: full size. So pink pepper is the top note, and

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Speaker 2: But it's called you because it smells different on everyone.

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Speaker 2: And I thought this was so interesting. On the Mecha website,

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Speaker 2: and elbows for a longer, lasting, stronger cent Who sniffer

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Speaker 2: Generation G Matt lipstick. It was a little bit too

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Speaker 1: All right, Next up we are talking anti wrinkle injections.

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Speaker 1: Where do we stand on them and what does aging

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Speaker 1: gracefully even mean? In twenty twenty four, Lucy, I wanted

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Speaker 2: I haven't, but do you think you'll get them?

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Speaker 2: I sent off an email saying like, I'd love to

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Speaker 2: feeling a little bit insecure due to what we're shown

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Speaker 2: What kind of result did you want?

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to look like I hadn't had a kid,

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Speaker 1: that you slept, that I'd been sleeping properly eight hours

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Speaker 1: I probably would have got it done. Because she was

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Speaker 1: a medical doctor who did injectables on the side, just

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Speaker 1: as like an extra form of income. And she's also Spanish,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like Europeans have a different approach to aging.

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Speaker 1: And I looked at her and I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I just thought she was like naturally beautiful. But she

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Speaker 3: You've got a medical degree.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting contradiction. I think that we have to navigate. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Be the best product wins. I should have saved my

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Speaker 2: All right, kikes, it's time for our bougie and budget

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Speaker 2: recommendations slush picks of the week. What have you got

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Speaker 1: I think you love this. It's the kind collective hydrating

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Speaker 1: oil Classic Conditioning fourteen buccaroos from Big w Right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm a bit of a lip oil fan. I know

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Speaker 1: So that's mine for this week. What's yours?

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Speaker 2: Well, you do love your kidney beans. Mine is Paula's

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Speaker 3: Stop it.

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Speaker 2: I will be back in your ears tomorrow in her bag.

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Speaker 2: I'm going through the personal makeup routine of a huge

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Speaker 3: I'm not falling for the strick again. By you, Bye

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