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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello there, Quiki friends, Taylor dropping in with a

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Speaker 2: special Sunday treat for you. In case he missed it,

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Speaker 2: We have a brand new podcast here at Mamma Mia.

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Speaker 2: It's called Unleashed. From the brilliant mind of Mia Friedman.

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Speaker 2: This new pod is for gen X women who want

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Speaker 2: a laugh. Literally, that's how she keeps describing it to us.

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Speaker 2: So we sat down with me to tell us all

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Speaker 2: about it, including the bonkers lineup of hosts. And because

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Speaker 2: this is the Quiki, we did put me as news

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Speaker 2: knowledge of recent generational.

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Speaker 1: Headlines to the test.

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Speaker 3: Things got.

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Speaker 2: Competitive. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Quiki. Today we are joined

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Speaker 1: myself and Taylor Strano, who are the hosts of your

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Speaker 1: show by our boss, Mia Friedman, because she told us

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Speaker 1: we had you know, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Ah, I did a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Me and Friedman joins us today. Hello, Hello, Hi, Now

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Speaker 1: you're here today because we're talking about our brand new

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Speaker 1: show on the network, which is called Unleashed. But you

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Speaker 1: want to make it very clear, and it's very obviously

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Speaker 1: if you're watching this on our social media that you

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Speaker 1: are not hosting this show because your hat.

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Speaker 3: Says producer, It says producer.

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Speaker 2: It took a minute to get there. They're like, you

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Speaker 2: fired yourself from the show. I really did so.

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Speaker 3: I did so. I was originally going to be on

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Speaker 3: they don't need me. It's my producer era.

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Speaker 1: So you are embracing this, not just hat wires, but

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Speaker 1: you are coming on here today to tell us a

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Speaker 1: little bit about the show itself, who is involved, and

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Speaker 1: what it means, because from what I've been told, Unleashed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're really going to not like to hear this,

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Speaker 3: either of you. But there is a big push away

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Speaker 3: exactly clearly not now. I thought i'd announced that the

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Speaker 3: Quiki is ending. No, not on this show, obviously, but

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Speaker 3: there is a general fatigue with the news cycle being

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Speaker 3: pretty grim, and I think that the last few years,

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Speaker 3: they want to rest until tomorrow's news, like back in

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Speaker 3: the olden days when you used to read a newspaper

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Speaker 1: Is the Seinfeld of podcasts.

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Speaker 1: What's the show about?

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Speaker 3: It's about nothing. I'm not a huge Siginfeld fan, but

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Speaker 3: So what I started to do, what I did and

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Speaker 3: Yes gus for gen X women who want to laugh.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who's on the show?

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Speaker 2: So the first thing I did this is bad of

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Speaker 3: It's so funny because when I was doing a couple

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Speaker 1: We're just in a new sense. Don't add any journalists

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you are here representing gen X today, Yes,

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Speaker 1: saman Taylor Stano, you are family in millennial territory.

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Speaker 2: Well, firmly is probably the wrong word. I am on

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Speaker 3: Typical that you need your own name yep, for sure

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So can you first of all, me, I Freeman,

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Speaker 3: So, because I'm the producer of this show, I then

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Speaker 1: So, I'd say they look quite a lot like other

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Speaker 3: ME say that because back to the inappropriate nature of

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Speaker 1: Okay, amazing, aren't we prepared?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or today's generational showdown? Your first question? In recent

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Speaker 2: This only because we are so in the weeds of

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Speaker 1: the finn Review found if you are male, aged over

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Speaker 1: Oh wow?

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Speaker 2: What is it that happens in that weird little gap

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Speaker 2: where are they turning?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's interesting, but it's a funny thing

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Speaker 1: because there's this idea that as you age, you become

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Speaker 3: They're calling it the older Daughter economy. So she's going

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Speaker 1: Nice gen X parents, very good. The financial award millennials

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Speaker 2: That's not a sexy prize. I want to return that, Okay.

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Speaker 3: Oh, these would these would be a Oh so, I

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Speaker 1: That is one of the hands, because there's.

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Speaker 3: I was surprised to see Milania's nails being so long.

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Speaker 1: No, so, Donald is a boomer, but the person who's

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's not a bunker. This doesn't read a bunker

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Speaker 1: That the half a point to mea friedman. It is

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Speaker 2: Oh, I do know who this is?

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Speaker 1: Okay Taylor, because she's maybe like.

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Speaker 2: The only person in this world to align herself so

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Speaker 1: She recently made headlines because she attended one of his

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Speaker 4: I am probably the president's number one fan.

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Speaker 1: And that's not going to change.

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Speaker 4: And the hate or where people have to say it

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, Okay, of course it will leave it on

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Speaker 3: I better not say anything main about his hands because

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Speaker 1: We're not letting.

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Speaker 3: Luckily, I never wanted to go to Disneyland.

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Speaker 1: Okay, your final question? Which musician slash actress recently made

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Speaker 1: is it Jessica Simpson? No, Oh, that's.

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Speaker 3: I know that Rihanna hasn't put out an album for

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Speaker 1: And I don't this person is also an actress and

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Speaker 3: Not Lindsay Loewen. It is not Lindy Harris Hilton married.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah she is.

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Speaker 3: Well, that was Mandy Moore, but Megan the.

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Speaker 3: You know she stay.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she's saying, need to sit down.

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Speaker 1: Well there you go.

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Speaker 2: That is the your pop culture blind spot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, drink so bonus mooint if you can name the

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Speaker 3: Hailey.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the other week, straight off the bat. Look, I'm

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Speaker 3: Look, it was touch and go whether that first episode

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Speaker 3: you try wrangling six women with very big day jobs

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Speaker 3: It's like hurting cats or putting smoke in a bag.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't understand that reference.

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Speaker 3: I'm too millennial for well, no one's loud smoke anymore,

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Speaker 1: That is so true. Okay, thank you Mia Friedman for

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Speaker 2: Okay, so, for the sake of keeping my job and

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Speaker 1: For more for I'm un leash.

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Speaker 2: You can head to the link in our show notes below.

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Speaker 2: Episode one is out right now and join us back

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Speaker 2: here tomorrow, Claire. We'll have all the latest news headlines

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Speaker 2: for your morning news update. As always, the Quickie is

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