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Speaker 1: From Mama Mia. Welcome to this bill, your daily pop

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Speaker 1: culture fix.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tina Burke and I'm Tina Previs and yes that's today.

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Speaker 2: We have two Tina two.

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Speaker 3: Tina's exciting. The day has finally come for both the fus.

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Speaker 1: That is because Laura Brodnick is on a very exciting,

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Speaker 1: top secret work trip right now, we can't really say

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Speaker 1: much about it, but everyone's going to have to stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for the updates on that because she is about

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Speaker 1: to interview some of the biggest stars. We're very jealous.

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Speaker 1: We're so jealous. This is like going to be a

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Speaker 1: professional problem. But we'll handle it with grace. We'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: Today we are talking about a scintillating new reality TV

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Speaker 1: interview and we're going to get into like all the

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes, juicy questions that everyone has ever wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask. And it's a good thing because we have

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Speaker 1: an expert in the room with us. And we are

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Speaker 1: also going to get into what you can expect from

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Speaker 1: eupourias season three. But first we need to talk about

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Speaker 1: a trailer that dropped this morning.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this is breaking news for anyone that.

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Speaker 4: Is invested in Devil Wears.

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Speaker 2: Prior to two.

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Speaker 3: We're only just shy of a month away from a

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Speaker 3: landing at the start of May.

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Speaker 1: I cannot believe it has rolled around that quick. I'm

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Speaker 1: seeing like all of the Getty photos rolling all of

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Speaker 1: the little Jucy bears, and now we actually know what

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Speaker 1: the story is going to be.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So now the final trailer has dropped Ford the

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Speaker 3: Devil wez Prida, which has come about after there's a

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Speaker 3: lot of speculation. I think in the first trailer a

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Speaker 3: lot of people didn't think that Miranda remembered Andy. But

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Speaker 3: now we get a bit more of an insight of

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Speaker 3: what we can expect.

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Speaker 4: So I used to have your job.

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Speaker 2: Little Staday got the good of Paris Fashion Week for

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Speaker 2: a bunch of princes from michell collection that year.

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Speaker 3: You still have all of it.

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Speaker 2: No, I gave it away what would have been a

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Speaker 2: bit much.

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Speaker 4: For a newsroom.

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Speaker 5: This is you.

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Speaker 1: Who gives a way.

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Speaker 4: You are here to help us through our current scoundal

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Speaker 4: click click, click, click everywhere. But I did not hire you.

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Speaker 4: And all I need to do is like my time,

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Speaker 4: until you've failed what you take the train do.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to make something of this job. You can

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Speaker 2: write a book, The definitive Miranda Prisley expos made the bridges,

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Speaker 2: I burn light my way.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, that's not what you're wearing to the dinner.

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Speaker 3: That's all.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So I am actually thrilled to understand what the hell

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Speaker 1: is going on because I was like, why doesn't she

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Speaker 1: remember her? And now I'm like, oh right, it was

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Speaker 1: just a bit. It's just Miranda being Miranda. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: basically Andy's back as features editor because there's some sort

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Speaker 1: of unknown crisis that Miranda has gotten herself into. I

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Speaker 1: do love that in the trailer we see like little

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Speaker 1: like Meme paused on.

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Speaker 3: The me me, there's something that was her lying the

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Speaker 1: It was like her as an Ai McDonald's work, and

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Speaker 1: it was like, would you like live with that?

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Speaker 2: Like that is how people would react if winter, Yes,

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Speaker 2: for sure.

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Speaker 1: But we also got like a glimpse into some of

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Speaker 1: the side characters. Simone Ashley.

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Speaker 4: I'm so excited to see her, I know this.

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Speaker 1: Especially after she was cut from that damn F one movie,

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Speaker 1: which I will never get over.

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Speaker 2: No, she's great, but she's here.

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Speaker 1: She's got a roll, and she as you all just heard,

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Speaker 1: she's kind of an assistant. She's got Andy's old job.

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Speaker 1: She's the assistant to Miranda Priestley, so she's going to

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Speaker 1: be very fashionable and very cool.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm excited about it, very excited.

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Speaker 1: What did you think of the fact that, like, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Miranda doesn't want her there, but second of

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Speaker 1: all the idea from a friend that she should write

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Speaker 4: So intrigued on how they're going to do this.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Andy always had a lot of respect

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Speaker 4: Is going to go down that path. But I like

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Speaker 3: Twist because I think from the first trailer it was

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Speaker 3: you know, the new world, new media, and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there's going to be elements of that, but I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of glad that they do have this twist coming into it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do think Andy always has the worst taste in friends, though,

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Speaker 1: because her friends say the craziest shit her in the

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Speaker 1: first film, and now there once again, like maybe you

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Speaker 1: should blow your career up and write.

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Speaker 2: It say, but like why not? Yeah, She's like, I

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Speaker 4: You should expose your boss.

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Speaker 1: I's I want to make something out of it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: just do a good job. Yeah, get another job on toowards.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, xposa, that's fine. One thing we

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Speaker 1: didn't see is Patrick Bramle. So he is the Aussie

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Speaker 1: actor who is going to be playing like Anne Hathaway's

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Speaker 1: love interest in this film, And there was a getty

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Speaker 1: footage of them running down the street and twirling. And

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Speaker 1: I want to know what's going to happen there, I know.

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Speaker 1: Do we think it's going to be like a hot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm interested to see where she's at, like in

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Speaker 3: her love life. Again, I feel like she has some

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Speaker 3: wonder if she's going to carry that into it.

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Speaker 4: We also have some rumors around.

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Speaker 3: Lady Gaga making a cameo, but we don't see her

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Speaker 3: of her new song with Doci.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think of the song the Little Glimmer?

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Speaker 4: It feels very sas do you know.

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Speaker 1: What it feels like to me, And this is now

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Speaker 1: how I feel about the whole movie. Do you remember

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Speaker 3: I don't think I remember what I was doing at

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Speaker 1: Ferky released a song and it was called Labels or

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Speaker 1: and it just meant like the whole movie just had

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Speaker 3: It has like a good beat, but if you listen

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Speaker 2: It is very You're like, wow, what is this? It's

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Speaker 2: called Runway, It's called.

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Speaker 1: Yes like the magazine. So yeah, it feels a bit cheesy,

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Speaker 1: but also that kind of seems to suit what we're doing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it almost not pokes. Fun is

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Speaker 3: probably the wrong way to say it, but it's totally fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you still get what you need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I feel like they're doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: Sex and the City movie, it's going to be about

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Speaker 1: like bringing the characters back, Like we know that, like

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Speaker 1: Nigel and Emily are back. We know there's going to

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Speaker 1: been doing it on the press tour right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so she was on the Stephen Colbert Show

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Speaker 3: and she had the Cyrillian blue sweater on, which is iconic.

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Speaker 1: Really, is it an okay time to admit that I

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Speaker 1: always thought that looked like a nice sweater. It is

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Speaker 1: a nice sweater.

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Speaker 2: I think that probably says more about us. That says

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Speaker 2: more about us. We're working around with my girls. That's

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Speaker 1: If anyone who's watching the podcast can see, I'm not

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Speaker 1: a Runway girl. Actually, the show that was I would

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Speaker 1: say one of the bigger shows of the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Euphoria is finally coming back for its third season. It

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Speaker 1: is dropping on Monday on HBO Max. It has been

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Speaker 1: a minute, so we have brought in an expert to

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Speaker 1: join myself and Tina Probus on the Spill today. For

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Speaker 1: anyone watching the vodcast, you can probably already see her.

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Speaker 2: It's Olivia James Damn.

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Speaker 1: So for anyone who doesn't know, Live is one of

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Speaker 1: the hosts of this season of Watch Party on Euphoria.

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Speaker 1: She's done a few watch parties if you guys have

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Speaker 1: had to listen out to her bridgeton episodes which were incredible.

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Speaker 1: Watch Party is the spills new TV binging podcast, and

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Speaker 1: it features Mom and me as host who were all

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Speaker 1: like obsessed with the show, which honestly just applies to

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Speaker 1: live and everything she cares about in her life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so nice. That's a nice compliment. Oh thanks.

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Speaker 2: Do I love things deeply?

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Speaker 1: She loves things with passion and gusto, much like she

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Speaker 1: loves hard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves hard hard.

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Speaker 1: We do. We're fangirls over here and so yeah much.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they don't like it, but I would refer to

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Speaker 1: Live and Tina as super fans of Euphoria.

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Speaker 2: The girls know everything.

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Speaker 4: I'll work with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I am, like I would say, a medium

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Speaker 1: fan of Euphoria. I saw it, I liked it, but

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Speaker 1: I think we need your expertise here to talk us

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Speaker 1: through it because there have been some new things, some

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Speaker 1: new trailers, some new interviews, lots going on. We need

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Speaker 1: to get up to speed, ye, Tina, that's what do

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Speaker 1: we need to know?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 3: So Zendaya, she sat down with her, Yes, yes, heard

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Speaker 3: of her, of her, which is another interesting thing about

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Speaker 3: this show, just because now that they're coming back, I

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Speaker 3: feel like all of the actors have just grown so

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Speaker 3: monumentally in Hollywood since the first inception. But yes, Zendeia

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Speaker 3: sat down with Drew Barrymore on her show, and Drew

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Speaker 3: has asked her, you know, do you think this is

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Speaker 3: going to be the last Euphoria?

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Speaker 2: And Zindre's this, I think so, And that's the tone,

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Speaker 2: that's the way she said it as well.

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Speaker 3: She sounded quite sad to inform us that it may

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Speaker 2: But I don't think she's sad, And that comes down

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Speaker 2: to the law that is within this show.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's fair, and also like can you imagine,

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Speaker 1: like you said, like they've grown exponentially in fame. Zudea

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Speaker 2: Exactly, And that is because they've done a five year

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Speaker 2: And yes, exactly they've grown up. They had already adults,

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Speaker 2: And then we see him say, my Maddie.

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Speaker 2: But I really don't think we're getting much of it.

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Speaker 2: the watch Party episode that well, that's clickbait leave and

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Speaker 2: I liked the clickbait, but how can you give the spillers? Yes,

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Speaker 2: so let's talk about Sidney, Sweeney and Zendea. Now, do you,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen like the rumors, you know that Sydney

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, So there is a feud on the table,

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Speaker 1: And then there's questions and division.

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Speaker 2: There's questions, and then people, obviously when something happens like that,

442
00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,600
Speaker 2: go into her history and they go, hmm, this is interesting.

443
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Speaker 2: You had a birthday party and there were people with

444
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Speaker 2: make America Greade again caps on.

445
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she was a registered Republican.

446
00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:41,920
Speaker 2: She was in the state of Florida.

447
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Speaker 1: Indeed, so people started digging all of that up right,

448
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,920
Speaker 1: people like hold On.

449
00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,560
Speaker 2: Sydney didn't dig that far because she's.

450
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Speaker 4: Not hiding it.

451
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, no, those pictures exactly she did, and

452
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,120
Speaker 2: she defended it like I'm just with my family. Yes,

453
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Speaker 2: she never said that, no, I don't support this. She

454
00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 2: did just say I'm just.

455
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Speaker 1: In the same interview where she was like, oh, they're

456
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 1: just jeans. I think she doubled down on Trump talking

457
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Speaker 1: about her as well.

458
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Speaker 3: Because at the tone, yes, there's something I think to

459
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Speaker 3: being an honor that he yes acknowledged.

460
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Speaker 2: That she is interesting. It seems that she enjoys people

461
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Speaker 2: that are American with blonde hair and bad views. Yes,

462
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Speaker 2: and that's that and what I would say about Zendea,

463
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,199
Speaker 2: she's the total opposite, right, She is very much the

464
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:34,040
Speaker 2: progressive voice of Hollywood, I would say, naturally, And she

465
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 2: actually made a comment when Trump was first elected. I

466
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Speaker 2: will tell you exactly what that quote is. She goes,

467
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Speaker 2: I guess I just never knew how many people in

468
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Speaker 2: this country don't love other people in this country. So

469
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Speaker 2: she has been very vocal on the opposite side. Yes,

470
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Speaker 2: now with that kind of evidence, I guess that's.

471
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Speaker 3: Not really alone though, because it's very hard say in

472
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Speaker 3: real life when you have opposing views with maybe someone

473
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Speaker 3: in your self call, there may be a bit of tension,

474
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Speaker 3: but like, for the most part, I guess you if

475
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 3: someone's a friend, you're like, okay. If you're a public figure,

476
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 3: then you actually have to like kind of sever a

477
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 3: relationship because otherwise it will still come across that you're

478
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Speaker 3: standing by it like dynamic between the friendship.

479
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Speaker 2: That is so true, and that is what has been

480
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Speaker 2: said reportedly online, not from Zendea, not from I mean

481
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Speaker 2: from anonymous sources, but they say it's really difficult for

482
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Speaker 2: Zendea because if they're on a red carpet and she's

483
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Speaker 2: seen standing next to Sydney Sweeney, that in itself, yeah,

484
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Speaker 2: say it's.

485
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Speaker 1: Like an endorsement exactly, yes, which comes up all the

486
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Speaker 1: time with like Glen Powell and Sydney Sweeney. People often

487
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Speaker 1: bring that up because he is an actor who's kind

488
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 1: of gotten away with not saying anything really ever, like

489
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Speaker 1: he's never declared, and then he then hangs out with

490
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Speaker 1: like people like Sweeney and people are like, wait, are

491
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 1: you view jeans? He loves dream so like that kind

492
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: of feels like the tough spot for the Euphoria cast,

493
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Speaker 1: where like, if they hang out with Sydney Sweeney, they're

494
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Speaker 1: seen as maybe endorsing her views, but if they don't

495
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Speaker 1: hang out with her, they also probably are like getting

496
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Speaker 1: I had seen a little bit of like accusations that

497
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Speaker 1: people weren't standing by her or they were bullying her

498
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Speaker 1: because of her views, which I was like, I don't

499
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Speaker 1: think that's roight, no.

500
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Speaker 2: But I do think that it is interesting that the

501
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: only person that is standing by or is seeing publicly

502
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Speaker 2: with her is Jacob Beldi and he's not American. Interesting,

503
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: so I'm like, okay, not that, and he's also a man,

504
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 2: which you know, as you said, they get away with

505
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: all of it, but I do think it's probably the

506
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 2: like Jacob has the least in the game there.

507
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, okay, So there's like rumors that maybe that's

508
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: caused quite a bit of tension between them.

509
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, that is the kind of foundation of why

510
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,959
Speaker 2: there would be a feud in the first place. And

511
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: then there was kind of situations that happened throughout the

512
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 2: promo for season three, including the fact that there was

513
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Speaker 2: a behind the scenes teaser posted by HBO Euphoria of

514
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 2: all the women in the cast of Euphoria except Sydney Sweeney,

515
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 2: and I think that's quite a big deal. It is

516
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 2: a massive deal. And people are saying, oh, you know,

517
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: she's just busy exactly.

518
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense because this is a huge moment

519
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 3: like this, the return has been coming for years.

520
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: Surely it can find a date exactly. And they were like,

521
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 2: the lead. Yeah, yeah, she's one of the most Like

522
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Speaker 2: I think I would have been like maybe if it

523
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 2: was like mord Apatow. Yeah, but because it's Sydney, I'm like, no, no, no.

524
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Speaker 1: Especially because from what I've seen, they're really trying to

525
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: build Sidney Cassie as a lead this time.

526
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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. She is a huge focus of this season.

527
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 2: And that is like, that is exactly like why it's

528
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: a bit iffy.

529
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Speaker 1: Okay.

530
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's pretty much what's been going on.

531
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Speaker 5: Now.

532
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Speaker 2: There is a side piece to this, apparently. Sydney Sweeney

533
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 2: was also seen liking First Traps of Tom Holland a

534
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: few years ago on Twitter. I don't think that day

535
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: I would care about that at all. Well well, well, well.

536
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 4: Don't know, maybe she's grown up.

537
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, maybe that would annoy me.

538
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: Maybe she was like that's my man.

539
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 4: Posting first trap, first trap, what do we consider it?

540
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: This is just him on Twitter and tweets of other

541
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: people saying Tom Holland is so damp fine like Sydney Sweeney.

542
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: She tapped that, like really she tapped that. She did

543
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: and apparently apparently that might have been a bit of a.

544
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: Because wasn't there also, like, I mean, I know this

545
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 1: because I love celebrity drama, but like z and Tom

546
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: had like dated and then she was on Euphorian and

547
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: then she dated Jacob A Lordie and Tom was on

548
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 1: the set of Euphoria season two, and like so maybe, okay,

549
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: maybe that is a bit more like juicy insulatious.

550
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: I like it. You like that as your theory? Yeah,

551
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: I like it, But that's outed a bit of space.

552
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, Live, We've loved having you on the show because

553
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: like just a ray of like sunshine and fresh air

554
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: and also intriguing thoughts you and always a theory always

555
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: won in your back pocket.

556
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: Well, the drama of show is honestly nearly better than

557
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: the show itself, and I believe it. Saying so much nuts,

558
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 2: it's crazy, that's just the tip of the iceberg. I'm serious.

559
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm serious, and.

560
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: You're unpacking it all for everyone on Watch Party, all

561
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 1: of it, all of it, all of it. When when

562
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: can people listen to Watch Party tell us about that?

563
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: Well, we've got one episode out now for the whole

564
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 2: recap of everything you need to know, including all the drama,

565
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: and then we have an episode dropping every week after

566
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Speaker 2: each Euphoria episode.

567
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't wait. Well for everyone who

568
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: wants to catch up, the links will be in our

569
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: show notes. So something that came out over the weekend

570
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 1: was an exciting new interview to maybe some people myself included. Yes,

571
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: but it was a feature interview on People Magazine with

572
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Speaker 1: Survivor US host and executive producer Jeff Post. Do you

573
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 1: know Jeff Prost and do you know Survivor Tina?

574
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 3: But I don't know him.

575
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: I don't know him personally, but I know of him. Yes,

576
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: I know of him.

577
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: That's like a fun fact for me. He's very attractive. Yes,

578
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: if any spillers don't know for checking out.

579
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: But he was doing a People.

580
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: Magazine interview because it is the fiftieth season of Survivor

581
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: has been on the air for twenty five seas and

582
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 1: fifty seasons which is just nuts.

583
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 2: That's like a love crazy that it's lapped itself.

584
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely wild. So he has shared some like juicy

585
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: insider info about like what goes on behind the scenes

586
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: of the show. I have to tell you the headline

587
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,959
Speaker 1: of the article because like I just kind of sometimes

588
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: dream of what it would be like to work at

589
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: People magazine and write these things.

590
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Speaker 2: It must be fun, it must be a good time.

591
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: The article is titled the Real Love Island question Mark

592
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 1: Survivor crew romances have led to sixty seven babies and

593
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: now kids live on location in Fiji brackets exclusive.

594
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: But that is wild, Like what a headline.

595
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: It's like we told you everything now please read And

596
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: I did, but pretty much all Survivor fans would know,

597
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: like Boston Robin Amber, one of the show's like most

598
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: iconic couple. There were two contestants fell in love. People

599
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: love them. It's happened in Australia as well. But what

600
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: he's revealed in this interview is actually that like behind

601
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: the scenes is where the real love has blossomed. So

602
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Speaker 1: throughout the fifty seasons and twenty five years of US Survivor,

603
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: sixty seven babies have come from crew members whose relationships.

604
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: Started on set. That is insane.

605
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: It is a wild amount of babies. That's like a

606
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: better success rate than Pather wants a wife.

607
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: I think growing their own they're growing their own community

608
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 3: of people, but they grow production.

609
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 2: Team generator, so that's where the come.

610
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, like now, several of these children are like

611
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: kind of growing off his FIGI partly, so they travel

612
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: to Fiji to live at the base camp while their

613
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: parents work on the show. And Jeff has said that

614
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: at any given time there might be between like seven

615
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: and thirteen kids running around, and he said, like many

616
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: of them are quote unquote like working as crew. So

617
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: they're like trialing out a challenge, acting as standards or

618
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Speaker 1: like the Jeff's assistant.

619
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Speaker 3: Yeah, allowed, they're trialing the challenges they look had.

620
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Speaker 2: I feel like that's a questionable.

621
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he means like they're trialing the challenges of like

622
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: where you like throw a beanbag. I hope that's it

623
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: and not the one where you get like dragged, Yes, water,

624
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: that feels like a problem. But there is a TV blogger.

625
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: Her brand is Emily watches TV, and she's kind of

626
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: unpacked for us. This interview and some of the Survivor romances,

627
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: So we're going to take a look right now.

628
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Speaker 5: This is Survivor co executive producer Britney Crapper and her

629
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 5: husband Riley. Brittany started working on Survivor in twenty eleven.

630
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 5: She arrived in Samoa and she met Riley the same

631
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 5: night he was working in the art department. A week later,

632
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 5: they went on their first official date in the catering

633
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: department and they've.

634
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: Been together ever since.

635
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 5: They worked on the show together while they dated, while

636
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 5: they got married, and while they had kids, and their

637
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 5: kids come with them to Fiji every year. This is

638
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 5: Riley Ranvill and her husband David. Riley arrived on set

639
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 5: at Survivor in two thousand and three and she met David,

640
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: who was working in post production at the time. In

641
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 5: the article, Riley talks about the fact that she really

642
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 5: wasn't even thinking about having kids because she was focused

643
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 5: on her career until Jeff probes theydd a point to

644
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 5: be like have kids and Ringham Here. The article talks

645
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 5: about that when Jeff became show runner of Survivor, one

646
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 5: of the first things he did was update the family

647
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 5: policy to ensure that crew members could have family members

648
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 5: and kids with them while they're on set, on site

649
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 5: in these places for months of the year. Riley talked

650
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 5: about that when she had her first daughter, Jeff was

651
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 5: actually asking her where is she? Why are you bringing

652
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 5: her to rehearsals. Why isn't she out here all your

653
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 5: testing stuff? Bring her around. She made the point, I

654
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 5: always want to ask first, to make sure, and Jeff said,

655
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 5: consider this approving every single time. You can always have

656
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Speaker 5: them here.

657
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: I love that they're like a little not little, it's huge.

658
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Oh my tribe.

659
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 2: That's good branding. They should do something, yeah, immediately.

660
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: But when you think about it, it kind of it

661
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: does make sense that so many people behind the scenes

662
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: of like men fallen in love because like, I don't

663
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: know what the statistic is, but people fall in love

664
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: with their coworkers all the time.

665
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: Then I meet so much juicy drama as well. Oh yeah,

666
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: a lot that doesn't work. I would love I would

667
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: love to tell all of the survivor.

668
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: But it does make.

669
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: Sense because, yeah, you're spending so much time together doing

670
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: this thing on like in a remote location, which is

671
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: also like the premise of a lot of reality TV

672
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: series like Love Island. Yes, you're literally being shoved into

673
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: this unique situation that no one else really could understand,

674
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: and so you bond and you like maybe trauma bonded

675
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: thev but sure you get together, and then you have

676
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: a kid, and then you bring that kid to film

677
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: with you. Obviously a lot of people were surprised by this,

678
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: and it did get us thinking that, like, we've got

679
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: a reality TV expert in the building and spoiler.

680
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: A little, it's me.

681
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: And you have told us that you actually still get

682
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: asked questions all of the time about like the behind

683
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: the scenes stuff that goes on from the shows that

684
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: you've been on. For any spillers who don't know, hit

685
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: us with what you've done.

686
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 3: I have had a little bit of time in the

687
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: reality TV machine, So I have done Love Island Australia

688
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: season three, I.

689
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: Have done You've done you one.

690
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: I won Love Island Australia season three and then came

691
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: back into the villa for Loveland Australian season four. I

692
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: also had a stint on Love Island Games, which is

693
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 3: like a US iteration. So it's interesting to kind of

694
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: see the difference between like a US production and Australia,

695
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 3: because I think there are some differences there.

696
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 4: And then switching it up, No more Love Island for me.

697
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 3: I went on I'm a celebrity to get me out

698
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: of here Australia a little bit different, which is.

699
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: One of the wildest ones I think to do it

700
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: must be. I mean, I know you've done like those ones. Yeah,

701
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: but surely I'm a celebrit'es like the craziest.

702
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: I always thought that I would have a shot at Survivor,

703
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: and then after I did, I'm a celeb I thought

704
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 3: not for.

705
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: Me, No, no bad jungle experience.

706
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 4: I just don't think. I have to say those people

707
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 4: are tough.

708
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: Those people are tough, and I also feel like that's

709
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: why they go on it again so much, because once

710
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: you've done.

711
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: That, normal life isn't enough.

712
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: Normal life isn't enough. But you'd also be addicted to it.

713
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: But it's such a like what are you going to do?

714
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: Go sit on a beach and like build a fort,

715
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: so you need to be on a show. It's like

716
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: otherwise it's just strange. But you know what, maybe we

717
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: can get you back around to survival one day. It's

718
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: enough time in like the city and then you want

719
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 1: to get Outah, yeah, let's figure out how to do

720
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: that for you.

721
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: That's my next project.

722
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: But something that we did want to talk about is

723
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: the fact that you get asked all of the time

724
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: about these different shows that you've done, and so I

725
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 1: thought we could have a little bit of a like

726
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: Tina Probs spills yeah, behind the scenes of reality TV,

727
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: and that you can let us know sort of. I

728
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: guess all the things, all the burning questions that a knowledge.

729
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: I do have a question, is there something that you

730
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: get asked a lot?

731
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 3: Well, I think a lot of people mostly reckon as

732
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: me from Love Island, Australia, So even people who don't

733
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 3: have any knowledge of the show or they've never seen.

734
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: It before, they'll always ask did you find love?

735
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 3: Which I find an irritating question because at the time

736
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: I thought I did. But obviously I'm not married now,

737
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 3: so maybe I do need to get a I need

738
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: to get a production role on Survivor. But that's like

739
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: the number one question that I get asked is if

740
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 3: I found love?

741
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: And you're like, well, no, famously it was on television,

742
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: No Google a dog, No, okay. Do people ask you

743
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: for like advice if they should go on.

744
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god so much?

745
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: And it's all this guys, really DMS.

746
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: From people that I know, and they will just be like,

747
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: I've been asked to go on. I'm like, you've just

748
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 3: been you've been asked to go on? Yeah, they're just

749
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: asking you.

750
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: Don't want to do it because they do m right.

751
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: They like there's obviously the online forum where you can

752
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: like sign up and pretty application in. But then the

753
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 3: casting producers do reach out on DM to like so

754
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: many people, and I'm sure they probably go through like

755
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: your network and like your following. So I find like

756
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: a lot of people I know of do all like

757
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: people that I follow and things like that. Like I

758
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: know that they get asked and they get reached out to,

759
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: so that's one way that they go about it. But

760
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 3: then you'll still go through like the audition process as well.

761
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you tell us like what that audition process is?

762
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Kind of like like how long does it go for?

763
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 4: It's actually really short. Okay, some people say it's so long.

764
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: It goes over a long span of time, But I

765
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: really feel like they didn't know enough about me.

766
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm sure. So you first fell out a form.

767
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: Online about you, and then if they're interested, you'll then

768
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 3: do a video audition, which I did on.

769
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: My birthday with a cruiser in my hand?

770
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: Do you think that's why you got And it's actually on.

771
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: The internet somewhere, that audition and it's so extremely cringe

772
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: like it's like a version of myself, Like I don't

773
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: know her.

774
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: I think I was just because it was a wiry

775
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: ant it twenty.

776
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a while ago. And when was it

777
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: would have been in twenty twenty one.

778
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: Okay, so while ago I did cover that season four work,

779
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: can I remember it?

780
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: But I was like, when was that?

781
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 4: It's a long time ago?

782
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: Is a blur? Yeh?

783
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Feel some go.

784
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: Do you think there's like one thing you did in

785
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: your audition that you're like, this is why I got it?

786
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 3: That's what people always ask as well, like what can

787
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: I do with my don't stand out?

788
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

789
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: But I think you just have to be yourself, Yeah,

790
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 3: because if you're anything that you're not, it's going to

791
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 3: show later on. So after you do the video application,

792
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 3: they will then bring you on to an in person

793
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: interview and everybody goes on.

794
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: The same day.

795
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: I remember sitting in a room there's like five other

796
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: girls in the room or all just like sitting there

797
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: like waiting.

798
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: It's like the weirdest job interview of all time.

799
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 4: Strange, yeah, I know.

800
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: And then you'll go in and chat with a couple

801
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: of the producers and then from there you'll take some

802
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: photos and if they like you, then there's another layer

803
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: with the execs, and that interview is filmed. They ask

804
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: you about your dating life, like what you like to do,

805
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: a bit about like what you're like in certain dating scenarios,

806
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: things like that, just trying to like get a lot

807
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: of conversation at of you. That's all filmed and that's it,

808
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 3: and and that video is like what they have on file.

809
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: And then I think it maybe.

810
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: Took a couple of months, like three to four months

811
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: later I had like the answer, but I feel like

812
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: that's like not a lot Like what if I was

813
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: just having a good day yea.

814
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: And in fact boring television?

815
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well obviously, you know, because you ended up doing

816
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot of TV and you were great television. Did

817
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: you ever have like a moment beforehand because obviously in

818
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: that audition process, I'm sure they're asking you questions and

819
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: you've got to be quite honest. Were you like I'm

820
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: about to be on TV and like this is how honest.

821
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: I want to be about who I am or you, like,

822
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: I can't do this if I'm just not like one

823
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: hundred percent authentic and honest about everything that's going on.

824
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: I don't think I really thought about it that much. Yeah,

825
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: I love that.

826
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

827
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 4: I don't think I had much of like a filter already.

828
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't someone that was like super private about

829
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: things when it came to dating, Like I was always

830
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: like quite an open book. So I didn't really have

831
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 3: that like level of reservation. But I think there are

832
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,760
Speaker 3: definitely people that go into it like not really knowing

833
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 3: the show back to back, And I think a lot

834
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 3: of guys go on Love Island they don't realize like

835
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: what they're even doing.

836
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: It's like, I'm just here to think that show.

837
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Sometimes the way they the things that they say on camera,

838
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: something that I think everyone always wants to know is

839
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: like the way that shows are edited. Do you ever

840
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: feel in the moment or did you ever feel on

841
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: any show you've ever been on, like, oh my gosh,

842
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: they're editing this to make me look like the bad guy,

843
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: or they're editing this or producing this segment to make

844
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: me say this thing.

845
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 3: I think I was lucky with the show, so that

846
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: I went on with Love Island Australia and I'm a Celebrity,

847
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: Get me out of here. Because something that production tells

848
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 3: you before you go into it, it's like a little

849
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 3: bit of a selling point, is that it's not a

850
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: show like Maths where there is a really long lead time.

851
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 3: It's essentially edited like day by day. Even if it's

852
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: not live. They still have the same capacity for the

853
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 3: shows that they're turning around, so the editor will be

854
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: like overnight like especially when I was doing them like

855
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 3: I'm a Celebrity, was live, so whatever happened that day

856
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 3: is airing the next day and similar to my experiences

857
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: on Love Island. And because of that, there isn't like

858
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: a strong narrative.

859
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: Obviously.

860
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: The role of a producer is to pick up a

861
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: story line, yeah, and make it interesting for people. It's

862
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 3: not always to like call people out or make someone

863
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: the bad guys just to make good TV. But you

864
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: notice it a little bit less in a show like

865
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 3: Love in Australia because that person that may be the

866
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: bad guy is changing week on week and it can

867
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 3: always change the move. But something like Maths, where there

868
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 3: is so much time for the final edit, they can

869
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: kind of decide where they want to go, what's the

870
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: most interesting storyline, and really drive And I think that's

871
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 3: something we've kind of seen on Maths this year.

872
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: Yes.

873
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: And also I think with Maths, which is just such

874
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: a good example, is like they also have that audience

875
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: feedback in real time, but they've got like out like

876
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: so much footage to work with that they can go

877
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: cool this week everyone kind of seems to be turning

878
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: on this person, so we can play that up in

879
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: their character. Whereas you're right, if you've got one day

880
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: to turn it around, you don't have the time to

881
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: really get into that level of like the audience detail

882
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: and the edit.

883
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: You can't have to just pick one or the other

884
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: and choose you reddit and trust it.

885
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, that's like absolutely wild. Did you ever

886
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: have to refilm anything awkward?

887
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: I don't think so. I feel like it was all.

888
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: I feel like I had a really like candid experience. Yeah.

889
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: Only when I did Love Island games. That was when

890
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 3: I noticed a difference in the production. Love Island Australia

891
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 3: is like go and.

892
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: Behill free because some people say producers made me do this.

893
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: I'm like, you don't have to do it, though someone

894
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 3: suggests something like why do you have a conversation?

895
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 4: You don't have to do it.

896
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: My dad, who knows nothing about reality and how it works,

897
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: loves to say that when we would have to watch

898
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: it together, like he's like, well, they can't put words

899
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: in your mouth. I'm like, well, actually they kind of can.

900
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: With Frankensteiner. Yeah, however, you're right like, yeah.

901
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 3: You don't.

902
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: You kind of don't have to do something.

903
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: You don't have to do something if you don't want

904
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: to do it.

905
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 3: But if you're bored and it seems like a good opportunity,

906
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: then some people they do go and do it.

907
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so did you find that like with the

908
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: US one, they'd kind of be like, oh, go back

909
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: and do this.

910
00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

911
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: I remember at one point they would just say the

912
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: pots are boiling, and that meant there was like too

913
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: many conversations going on at once and they wanted to

914
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: focus on one conversation or something that was happening, and

915
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 3: the producers would just like walk through and everyone like

916
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 3: this was like an all star of sorts, like people

917
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: who had all been on Love Island before. So I

918
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: think the premise is a bit different, like you're there

919
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: to do something different from me.

920
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: I stepped in. I was like, I'm not going to

921
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 2: meet anyone here.

922
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 3: So I think everyone's kind of more aware that they're

923
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: on a reality show. You're happy to just stop talking

924
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: when they're like stop it was just weird.

925
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: So they would just like walk through and be like, Okay,

926
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: this compo's done.

927
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 2: Yep.

928
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 4: They'd be like you're done. Or maybe it's just the

929
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 4: combos I'm having. They're like this is boring.

930
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I do love the pots of boiling. Let's

931
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 2: like that.

932
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: Bring in the planning meeting in the morning. Did you

933
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: have like days off when you're filming? Yes, And are

934
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: you allowed to like talk to each other and like

935
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: still hang out or are you not meant to do

936
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 1: that because it's like you're not being filmed.

937
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 3: This is one that definitely gets asked a lot. So

938
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 3: we have dark days, which.

939
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: Just sounds like so I know, like me sitting in

940
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: a room like.

941
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Dark days, You're like, I have those. We will relates.

942
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 3: And essentially that's the time where the crew like changes over. Yeah,

943
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 3: they get a little bit of a break. It's usually

944
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: like a day or a couple of days.

945
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: People have to go on.

946
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where they go on their dates.

947
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: That's for the real, the real romance, real romance.

948
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so they go on and break and you guys

949
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: just chill.

950
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: So the girls and boys will be split up. The

951
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 3: girls will either stay in the villa and then the

952
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: boys will go to the hotel or vice versa. If

953
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: you're in the hotel, you're all in separate rooms. You

954
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: get a us B of movies.

955
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: You pretty much just sleep and eat.

956
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: You get a USB of movies.

957
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

958
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 3: So when I did Love Island, because it was like

959
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: live at the time, it was essentially live. Yes, before

960
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: you went in, there was a little bit of a

961
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: quarantine period and for me, because it was near COVID,

962
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 3: that was really long.

963
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 4: There was a COVID scares.

964
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: So I had about three weeks with no phone, no computer,

965
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 3: no TV, and no access to like any kind of contact.

966
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: So I had a USB of like hundreds of movies.

967
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: And a season of Survivor just to bring it all

968
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 3: back home circle. Yeah, it's trying to get tactics for

969
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: Love Island watching Surviva.

970
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 2: So you just kind of had that to entertain yourself.

971
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: A little staring at the water, you're in like solitary

972
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: confinement pretty much.

973
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 4: I was like, are they trying to make me crazy?

974
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: Were allowed to quit tide, you had you had an

975
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 3: hour with a chaperone, go for a little walk.

976
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: We were in Byron, so go a little Byron walk in.

977
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, dark days don't sound fun, no, so when

978
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 3: you were in the villa, they were actually quite fun.

979
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 4: They'd weren't allowed to talk about any of the show.

980
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: You can progress any conversations that would progress the plot.

981
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 3: You to hold that and there would be like chaperones

982
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 3: in there to be like stop your mouths, stop them okay.

983
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: So you could just talk about like the films you've

984
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: been watching on you.

985
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: Everything else, because there's so much you usually don't talk

986
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 3: about because it's like you don't think, like your families

987
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 3: and those kind of background conversation.

988
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: So you were allowed to talk about like personal story.

989
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could talk about anything that didn't progress the

990
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: plot was like fine. They would bring a TV and

991
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: we would have snacks. That was honestly like Big Girls sleepover.

992
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: Sounds like a fun vibe.

993
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: That's kind of fun. I would maybe sign up for

994
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Love Island just for the dark days. Yea, dark days

995
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: are good like that sounds good. Yeah, the rest of

996
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: it sounds stressful. Dark days actually sound all right. I

997
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: like that. In terms of the hosts, Now, you've obviously

998
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: done some different shows, how much do you actually see

999
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: the hosts?

1000
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: Not a lot.

1001
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 3: They like walk in like Sofi Monk like love her,

1002
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: though they obviously have their earpiece in, like they have

1003
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 3: their like lines to them, but they're just like legends. Like, so,

1004
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 3: I think we got a lot more time with her

1005
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: compared to like Robert Irwin and Julian Morris. I think

1006
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 3: because I'm a celeb is live, so those moments, like

1007
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 3: you would see them kind of standing outside and then

1008
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: they would run in kind of say who's got doing

1009
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 3: a trial?

1010
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: And then run just have to eat bugs?

1011
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah exactly.

1012
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 3: But so if we got more time with her, she's

1013
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 3: just like so down to earth and like funny.

1014
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1015
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 4: So she was always great.

1016
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: And was she like allowed to kind of give you

1017
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: guys advice and stuff off camera or was it all

1018
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 1: just very like we're on camera and we have our

1019
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,479
Speaker 1: segments and then she's got a scurry away.

1020
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 4: How much advice could she give?

1021
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,240
Speaker 2: So she was kind.

1022
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 1: Of just like being very funny and like as the host.

1023
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: It was funny and like she had like little quips

1024
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: and things to say.

1025
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: I quite drink that's.

1026
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: All her as well.

1027
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like she would sit down and have a

1028
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: chat with us.

1029
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 3: I remember she was like telling how she met her

1030
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: partner when she was filming Love Island on the plane back.

1031
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: They were like sitting in business class together, and she

1032
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 3: said they were having some drinks and she actually said

1033
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 3: that she loved him, like the first time they met,

1034
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: like on the plane.

1035
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 4: I don't know how much it meant.

1036
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: There were a few glasses of champagne. I like that.

1037
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: See inside scoops from the host.

1038
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: I love that.

1039
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: So you have obviously done two, like well multiple seasons

1040
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: of Love Island in the last games, but two kind

1041
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: of very different things, one being Love Island and one

1042
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: being I'm a st Left, which I'm a still leb.

1043
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: I would say it's my personal nightmare of a show.

1044
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't think if I was a reality star I

1045
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: could ever do that. I really wanted to do things.

1046
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: I look like a good like tech, but I think

1047
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: you've got like a real like can do attitude.

1048
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Yay, like let's try a.

1049
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 3: Thing.

1050
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, I think you nailed it.

1051
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: But I do want to know, like the obviously very

1052
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: different shows, but they also do require like a lot

1053
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: from you as the person who's on there, and I'd

1054
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: love to know, like what was the psychological support like

1055
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: kind of before, during, and after the shoots.

1056
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because the production company across lovel And

1057
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 3: Australia and I'm a celeb are actually the same.

1058
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: So it's the same process a lot of the same people.

1059
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice, yeah with them again.

1060
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like so many familiar faces amongst the producers

1061
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: and also the psychologists that they have. So the process

1062
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 3: is prior to going onto Lavele and Australia, you will

1063
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: do a psychological evaluation, like a lot of tests, like

1064
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: you literally like would do one which is like on

1065
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 3: a computer. It's like five hundred questions which seem rogue,

1066
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: but I'm sure they indicate something. They will be like

1067
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: how likely you to jump over a fence if it

1068
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: was like right in front of you right now, or

1069
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 3: like if if you could like just random thing random.

1070
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 2: Things implicating something to them?

1071
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, to like kind of work out what kind

1072
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: of like personality you are. I get to read on

1073
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: who you are. You're also like you know, run through

1074
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 3: a bit of your background with the psychologists, and I

1075
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: guess they give the all clear at some point and

1076
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: then that that CYC will be behind the scenes working

1077
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 3: really closely with producers. And I remember having a conversation

1078
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: with the psychologist who was always like lovely and I

1079
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: like loved him. I feel like we were just like banter.

1080
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 3: So I don't know how helpful that was to me,

1081
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 3: but he was saying that, you know, he will only

1082
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: intervene and come in when you were kind of like spiraling,

1083
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: so like everyone kind of like you say, you're in

1084
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 3: the center of the circle and there are like different

1085
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 3: rings around you of like levels of like your stress,

1086
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: the average person, the normal person. When you're like managing

1087
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 3: something healthily, like you may go to the outer edges

1088
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: inspire a little bit, but you should be able to

1089
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,240
Speaker 3: bring yourself back down to center. Yeah, and if you can't,

1090
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 3: then that's where they'll like intervene and offer a level

1091
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 3: of help. I've seen a lot of people sparring low

1092
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: and I have never seen them intervene, So.

1093
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know what it is.

1094
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 4: They always spiral back eventually.

1095
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: Okay, But you felt like there was like, was there

1096
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: support afterwards? Like yeah, you guys got off. It kind

1097
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 1: of carries on, so there.

1098
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: Is an after care, so they'll do like a I

1099
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 3: think it starts like maybe like a month after, then

1100
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: a six month after, and a year after check up,

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00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 3: and then because I kept doing the Milan just wasn't

1102
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 3: trying to check ups. You'll come at a random time,

1103
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: You'll be like, hello, who's that. We're just checking up

1104
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: and you're like, I'm fine, okay. I think I was

1105
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: really lucky in my experience. I think I had a

1106
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 3: really good group around me, and I did have a

1107
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: really positive experience, so I didn't really need to use

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00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 3: any of the services, but there is a level of

1109
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: care if you need to access some sessions afterwards, they

1110
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: do offer that. And then going into I'm Celebrity, it

1111
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 3: was the same six so we have a chat before

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Speaker 3: we go in. I remember my bigger concern was just

1113
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 3: like I was convinced my ex was going to be

1114
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 3: there again, because for anyone that follows whole island, that

1115
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: just kept happening to me, I genuinely was fearful that

1116
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: they had to they had to give the orc cleander.

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00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 2: Let me know, he's not going to be there.

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00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: I had the sack feel like, but that's good that

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00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: they actually did like address it.

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Speaker 4: They will probably like get over it. This isn't going

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00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 4: to be interesting if you say this.

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00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 3: Father, I'm genuinely more fearful than needing a maggot.

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair enough. I can't imagine anything worse.

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Speaker 2: Stuck in the jungle, were doing this again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not doing it again, not again, leave me

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00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: alone this time. That's so true because also when I'm

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00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: a celeb, like, you don't know who's going to be there,

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00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: so you're just like that would add a level of anxiety.

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00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: And because you have that quarantine as well before you

1131
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 3: go in, it's less strict.

1132
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Speaker 4: Than like the Love Island one.

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00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, I was just sitting there at my

1134
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 3: wall being like please God, no, no, that's the worst.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: I love that they.

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00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: Clarified it before you went in, and I think, like,

1138
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure you get asked this all of the time.

1139
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: It's the number one thing that comes up around reality TV.

1140
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: But something everyone always wants to know is like do

1141
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 1: pre juicers manipulate contestants? Like do they whisper little gossips

1142
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: in your ear to try to get you to say something.

1143
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: Do they kind of keep like the alcohol flowing until

1144
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: someone's snabs. People have a lot of theories about like

1145
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: what goes on with producers and contestants. Do they force

1146
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: you to say anything? Give us the kind of scoop

1147
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: on that.

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00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: My view is it seems to always be the people

1149
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: have the bad edit, the absolutely wrong like, yeah, no

1150
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: one who's a good edit, a good editor? I'm doing

1151
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 3: again air quotes will blame producers for like a good edit.

1152
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 3: I guess why would you've got no cause to I

1153
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 3: do you think mostly the role of a producer is

1154
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 3: to get the storyline out and get there where it

1155
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: needs to go quickly, and so you do need to

1156
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: kind of move people along. So on the one hand,

1157
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: you could say I was manipulated to do this, but

1158
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 3: I think it's also in the framing and if you've

1159
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 3: never done a reality show before, you won't notice it.

1160
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: And like I remember being told once the sign of

1161
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 3: a good producers that you don't notice in reality TV

1162
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: that you're being produced.

1163
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, And I think it should be subtle.

1164
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 3: So say you go into like the beach hut in lovee,

1165
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: which is like the diary room, the confessional.

1166
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: And you say you asked a question, they would be

1167
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 4: like Tina.

1168
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 3: Burke already hypothetical name, John is looking so hot tonight.

1169
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 3: What do you think about that? And then you will

1170
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 3: be required to answer that in a full sentence because obviously,

1171
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 3: as if you're at home, you need the context. So

1172
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: you're encouraged to answer in a full sentence anything you are,

1173
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: so then you would naturally answer John is looking really

1174
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 3: hot tonight.

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00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 2: I felt x y Z. So now it seems like

1176
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: it's your thought, but.

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Speaker 1: It actually wasn't your thought. No, that's trippy.

1178
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 3: So I think that's where a lot of even in maths,

1179
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: I assume they're saying like they're making a statement, but

1180
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 3: it may have necessarily been their own thought which started it.

1181
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: That's so true because you do watch it and you

1182
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: listen sometimes and you go, whoy on earth would that

1183
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: person say that?

1184
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: Like how did you get how did you get there?

1185
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: Or like why in this moment in time did you

1186
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: say this crazy thing on camera? But it makes sense

1187
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: if you kind of have to repeat the full sentence

1188
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: back and now I'm going to be watching for.

1189
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 4: It, you'll notice it every time in the.

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00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: Way they say it too, They'll kind of say something

1191
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: and then they just like give a like oh, but

1192
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: like you know, she's fine.

1193
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: Why did you even bring that up in the first place.

1194
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: I really, I really notice it in I'm a Celeb.

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00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: I guess everyone has like different styles, but I noticed

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00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 3: it at the start when producers were asking me questions.

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00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: And I think because it's a kind of show where

1198
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 3: not everything's about me, and I'm like, I think in

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Speaker 3: Love Island it's always about you, not necessarily me as

1200
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: a person, but like it's about your dating life, so

1201
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: you can answer things quite naturally.

1202
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 4: But in I'm a Celeb, there's other like plot points.

1203
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: It's not about dating, it's just about things going on

1204
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 3: in the jungle. So some of the questions I just

1205
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 3: didn't relate to. But I noticed very overtly like where

1206
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: the story was, and I just found it hard. Not

1207
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: like I felt like I was being manipulated. I just

1208
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 3: was very conscious of it. And I feel like that's

1209
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 3: once you're conscious of it, it's hard to answer things

1210
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 3: that you don't naturally want.

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Speaker 4: To talk about.

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00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you find that you would get like stuck? Ever?

1213
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just kept getting stuck and because you're hungry,

1214
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 3: you're not eating, you're tired and exhausted.

1215
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 4: And like I I.

1216
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: Remember at one point saying I can't answer these questions

1217
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: like this, and then it changed from there. I'm not

1218
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: trying to give you bad I'm not trying to like

1219
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: give you bad answers, but I'm just like not going

1220
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: to respond well to this.

1221
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Speaker 2: I was quite frustrated. I think I was hungry. Yeah,

1222
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Speaker 2: I think everyone would be hungry.

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Speaker 1: On enough. Okay, I've loved this so much. Thank you

1224
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Speaker 1: very much. I have a million more questions. We're going

1225
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Speaker 1: to ask them off there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much for listening to the Spill today.

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Speaker 3: at seven am with Morning Tea hosted by the wonderful

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Speaker 3: Ash London. The Spill is produced by minishe Iswarn, with

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Speaker 3: video production by Michael Keane.

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Speaker 4: Bye Bye