WEBVTT - April Theory & A Brand New Kink 0:00:10.622 --> 0:00:13.342 You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 0:00:13.822 --> 0:00:17.182 Mamma Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters 0:00:17.222 --> 0:00:22.101 that this podcast is recorded on. Men tend to really 0:00:22.262 --> 0:00:25.461 like practical jokes. If you think about the stories of 0:00:25.542 --> 0:00:27.861 movie stars who play practical jokes on each other and 0:00:27.862 --> 0:00:29.462 then they'd pressed to us that they'll be like, oh, 0:00:29.582 --> 0:00:32.022 Clooney was such a joker on set. He always did this, 0:00:32.182 --> 0:00:40.982 He always did that. It just makes everyone else look dumb. Hello, 0:00:41.142 --> 0:00:43.702 and welcome to Mama Mia. Out loud. It's what women 0:00:43.742 --> 0:00:46.782 are actually talking about on Wednesday, the second of April. 0:00:47.142 --> 0:00:48.502 My name is Holly Waynwright. 0:00:48.742 --> 0:00:51.062 I'm mea Friedman, and I'm mea Friedman. 0:00:51.182 --> 0:00:52.302 That's no Forril Fool's joke. 0:00:53.502 --> 0:00:56.942 That's funny. I do have something it's not an April 0:00:56.982 --> 0:00:59.102 Fool's joke, which is that, in case you missed it, 0:00:59.142 --> 0:00:59.702 we have merch. 0:00:59.862 --> 0:01:01.702 Out louders, No, now it sounds like an April for 0:01:02.062 --> 0:01:02.342 it's not. 0:01:02.502 --> 0:01:05.062 We finally have merch and it would be very elaborate 0:01:05.182 --> 0:01:08.021 April Fool's date because I'm wearing it now and we're 0:01:08.062 --> 0:01:10.462 all wearing it. Eagle eyed out there might have noticed 0:01:10.542 --> 0:01:13.502 if you saw the socials for Monday show or the 0:01:13.542 --> 0:01:14.982 picture that we put in the out loud. 0:01:14.822 --> 0:01:17.742 Who one day. We were so subtle, weren't we? We 0:01:17.742 --> 0:01:19.822 were so subtle, all standing there in front of all 0:01:19.822 --> 0:01:22.182 the merchants. Out louders in our Facebook group were like, 0:01:22.542 --> 0:01:23.782 I see March and. 0:01:23.662 --> 0:01:26.982 Then we're like, we're not telling you until Wednesday. We're 0:01:26.982 --> 0:01:29.902 so sneaky. We have done a collab with our favorite, 0:01:29.982 --> 0:01:33.101 one of our favorite local lady startup labels, Makou. She's 0:01:33.142 --> 0:01:37.982 designed a limited edition of four T shirts and bags 0:01:38.022 --> 0:01:40.182 and you can order any or all of them now 0:01:40.382 --> 0:01:43.301 at mamama out loud dot com dot au. Just click 0:01:43.382 --> 0:01:47.062 shop to get merch and when it arrives, make sure 0:01:47.102 --> 0:01:48.782 you tag us in photos of you wearing it, so 0:01:49.102 --> 0:01:49.542 I see you. 0:01:49.622 --> 0:01:51.582 Are we telling them about the TYPEO? Is that a 0:01:51.622 --> 0:01:53.462 thing we can tell our Oh yeah, people are so. 0:01:53.542 --> 0:01:56.582 If you order quickly, and if you've got eagle eyes, 0:01:57.022 --> 0:01:59.382 you will spot in one of the T shirts. I 0:01:59.422 --> 0:02:02.142 won't tell you which one. There is a typo that's 0:02:02.182 --> 0:02:06.102 so us So we were like, Holly of course spotted it, 0:02:06.782 --> 0:02:13.102 and I was proper to it. After it was printed 0:02:13.382 --> 0:02:16.382 and we went, oh dear, and then we went, well, 0:02:16.822 --> 0:02:19.422 let's just make a feature of our floor. 0:02:19.502 --> 0:02:19.702 Yep. 0:02:19.902 --> 0:02:20.941 We love to flearn here. 0:02:21.262 --> 0:02:23.181 Yes, and you know if you get one of those, 0:02:23.181 --> 0:02:25.702 because obviously when we print the next edition, we are 0:02:25.782 --> 0:02:27.662 going to change it, but. 0:02:27.822 --> 0:02:31.182 It'll be a collector item in It's true. I went 0:02:31.222 --> 0:02:33.142 to the gym the other day with my out Louder 0:02:33.181 --> 0:02:35.822 merch bag. Is it dicky to wear your own merch. 0:02:35.702 --> 0:02:38.662 No, that's funny because I wore out my Outlouder t 0:02:38.822 --> 0:02:41.222 shirt and when I walked into the office somebody said 0:02:41.222 --> 0:02:43.182 to me, oh, a fan of yourself. 0:02:45.702 --> 0:02:48.542 Like someone has to think of that. 0:02:48.502 --> 0:02:53.622 But yeah, now I feel very self conscious. On today's show, 0:02:54.022 --> 0:02:56.502 there are two types of people, and neither of them 0:02:56.542 --> 0:02:59.822 think practical jokes are funny. We have feedback for eightful 0:02:59.862 --> 0:03:05.382 the first also the stratispheric drama level of sharing custody 0:03:05.422 --> 0:03:09.822 with the world's most powerful unhinged men, and kink are 0:03:09.862 --> 0:03:12.662 having a moment in pop culture, and a confession on 0:03:12.742 --> 0:03:19.901 Gwyneth's lay. This podcast left us with questions. But first, Mia, in. 0:03:19.822 --> 0:03:21.942 Case you missed it, the Beatles are getting back together 0:03:22.382 --> 0:03:25.341 in see that coming movie form, and it's not actually them, 0:03:25.622 --> 0:03:27.862 which is why you probably didn't see it coming. I 0:03:27.862 --> 0:03:31.262 think two of them have died. Director Sam Mend's former 0:03:31.342 --> 0:03:34.862 husband of Kate Winslet, announced yesterday that he's making four 0:03:36.342 --> 0:03:37.462 describe some members. 0:03:37.502 --> 0:03:40.022 That's the most interesting fact I've learned today. I didn't 0:03:40.102 --> 0:03:40.702 know that is. 0:03:40.702 --> 0:03:43.902 An enormously successful and accomplished director, but hey. 0:03:43.942 --> 0:03:45.102 Yeah, it's out loud. 0:03:45.142 --> 0:03:48.982 That's how we wrong. He is making four separate movies, 0:03:49.022 --> 0:03:52.502 one focusing on each of the four band members through 0:03:52.542 --> 0:03:54.342 their point of view, and they'll all be dropping in 0:03:54.382 --> 0:03:57.542 cinemas in April twenty twenty eight in what is being 0:03:57.582 --> 0:04:01.101 called the first bingeable theatrical experience. 0:04:01.902 --> 0:04:04.742 I have I have a question for Holly because she's British, 0:04:04.782 --> 0:04:06.262 so clearly she's the closest to the Beatles. 0:04:06.262 --> 0:04:08.382 Do you want to know who's in it? Who's playing 0:04:08.422 --> 0:04:08.902 the Beatles? 0:04:08.902 --> 0:04:10.702 That's actually pretty it's a dreamcast. 0:04:10.822 --> 0:04:14.142 It is Paul Mescal as Paul McCartney, Paul Mescal from 0:04:14.182 --> 0:04:18.582 Normal People. Harris Dickinson is playing John Lennon. He was 0:04:18.622 --> 0:04:19.862 most recently in Baby Girl. 0:04:20.062 --> 0:04:22.821 I think he is so hot. I can't even that's 0:04:22.902 --> 0:04:23.182 the role. 0:04:23.222 --> 0:04:24.902 Everyone wants. You want to be John? 0:04:25.941 --> 0:04:26.741 Do you want to be Paul? 0:04:27.061 --> 0:04:27.741 You want to be John? 0:04:28.262 --> 0:04:28.502 Why? 0:04:28.902 --> 0:04:31.301 Because well, are you a Paul or are you a John? 0:04:31.541 --> 0:04:35.541 Is one of the world's longest running like poodle wolf situations, 0:04:36.301 --> 0:04:39.181 and you want to be John because's the main character. 0:04:39.861 --> 0:04:40.902 Yeah, he's the main. 0:04:40.782 --> 0:04:41.662 Character of the Beatles. 0:04:41.741 --> 0:04:45.702 Joseph Quinn is George Harrison, I don't know who he is. 0:04:47.342 --> 0:04:50.862 And Barry Kogan is Ringo Star. He had to. 0:04:50.821 --> 0:04:54.222 Be because I didn't realize that each one of these 0:04:54.342 --> 0:04:57.582 movies is told from their perspectives, and no one would 0:04:57.582 --> 0:04:59.741 go and see the Ringo one, no dissing Ringo. But 0:04:59.782 --> 0:05:03.142 he's the least interesting that so until you put Barry 0:05:03.222 --> 0:05:05.502 keg and then everyone goes, oh, yeah, now I need 0:05:05.541 --> 0:05:06.661 to see the Ringo version. 0:05:06.782 --> 0:05:09.941 So if you're counting your pennies for that time in 0:05:09.981 --> 0:05:12.582 a few years, the ones you're going to see number one, 0:05:12.582 --> 0:05:14.821 you're going to see John a couple. 0:05:14.621 --> 0:05:15.261 Of hundred dollars. 0:05:16.101 --> 0:05:19.181 This is actually genius, absolute genius. I'm not happy that 0:05:19.262 --> 0:05:22.301 I have to wait three years. But everybody's talking about 0:05:22.381 --> 0:05:24.942 cinema is dead. Cinema is dead except for the massive 0:05:25.061 --> 0:05:28.142 stunt things, and they tend to be Marvel movies, those 0:05:28.222 --> 0:05:30.582 kind of things. Baby, with the exception of Barbie, which 0:05:30.582 --> 0:05:33.141 obviously is a brilliant movie. A lot of those movies 0:05:33.181 --> 0:05:35.661 don't get a lot of credibility, Like they're not very good. 0:05:35.902 --> 0:05:40.981 I mean, you know, very artistically. What's the word critical, right, Yeah, 0:05:41.022 --> 0:05:43.541 they're seen as a bit cheap, even though they're the 0:05:43.621 --> 0:05:46.502 most expensive things that have ever been made. This is 0:05:46.541 --> 0:05:50.181 a great idea because it marries stunt with simultaneous release 0:05:50.222 --> 0:05:52.782 of four movies, biggest stars in the world, blah blah blah, 0:05:52.782 --> 0:05:57.222 with undoubted credibility. If you've got Sam Mendes directing and 0:05:57.301 --> 0:06:00.662 those actors playing these movies are going to be brilliant. 0:06:00.741 --> 0:06:03.582 Do you think they'll have a few per fore men? 0:06:04.621 --> 0:06:08.222 Because the thing is, if this was if this was 0:06:08.222 --> 0:06:10.662 a Spice Girl, then we'd cut five women. We would 0:06:10.702 --> 0:06:13.261 be holding our breath. Because the feud on the press 0:06:13.301 --> 0:06:16.261 tour is the new like, that's the biggest st. 0:06:16.262 --> 0:06:21.741 John famously clashed, particularly when Yo came into the picture. 0:06:22.101 --> 0:06:24.422 I'm popular opinion. I don't think I'll see any of them. 0:06:24.582 --> 0:06:25.902 I don't like the Beatles very much. 0:06:25.981 --> 0:06:29.741 I will see them all, all of them in like 0:06:29.782 --> 0:06:32.022 a very short period. Imagine the fuss about this. It's 0:06:32.061 --> 0:06:33.941 going to be like set aside a day you're going 0:06:34.022 --> 0:06:35.342 to be like, it's going to be a whole. 0:06:35.381 --> 0:06:37.422 I'll see Paul and John, and I'll decide whether I'll 0:06:37.421 --> 0:06:38.022 see the others. 0:06:40.181 --> 0:06:43.141 Feedback is a gift from both the perspective of a 0:06:43.181 --> 0:06:47.501 giver as well as the recipient. I have feedback for 0:06:47.541 --> 0:06:50.782 April Full's Day, and I'm worried that I'm being a killjoy, 0:06:50.861 --> 0:06:52.741 which is why I'm bringing it to the table today 0:06:52.782 --> 0:06:54.261 to unpack it with my friends. 0:06:54.782 --> 0:06:56.981 Because this did you get tricked yesterday? 0:06:56.981 --> 0:06:57.421 Babe? 0:06:58.142 --> 0:07:00.101 I wouldn't say I got tricked. I'm trying to be 0:07:00.101 --> 0:07:00.621 self aware. 0:07:00.662 --> 0:07:02.822 This is my tenth year in media, and maybe I've 0:07:02.861 --> 0:07:06.381 become jaded, right, but I think I'm done with April 0:07:06.381 --> 0:07:11.102 Full's Day. Yesterday my social media Walter April Fool's Day pranks, 0:07:11.222 --> 0:07:15.302 and I didn't even understand half of them. Brands love 0:07:16.182 --> 0:07:19.302 and April Fool's Day joke, and there were some were 0:07:19.342 --> 0:07:22.901 there many decent ones. Dyson did the airbrow. 0:07:23.102 --> 0:07:27.462 I saw that that was clever. I almost tried to buy. 0:07:27.381 --> 0:07:28.461 See this is a problem. 0:07:28.542 --> 0:07:30.502 Think of how many people did try and buy that. 0:07:30.742 --> 0:07:32.222 It was like a little I don't even know what 0:07:32.222 --> 0:07:33.821 it was, but it was like to dry and fluff 0:07:33.862 --> 0:07:35.582 and shape your eyebrows, and it was like. 0:07:35.542 --> 0:07:37.542 A teeny weeny little hair dry. 0:07:37.422 --> 0:07:40.542 I love a little gadget, and Mac did a clear 0:07:40.702 --> 0:07:42.302 foundation and I was like, may I would buy that 0:07:42.342 --> 0:07:42.902 In an instant. 0:07:46.582 --> 0:07:50.422 Jack sent us chocolate covered Jacks, which that's. 0:07:50.582 --> 0:07:52.262 Clean funny about them. 0:07:52.502 --> 0:07:53.702 They were just delicious. 0:07:53.742 --> 0:07:56.742 They're seriously a fantastic product that now I can't buy, 0:07:56.902 --> 0:08:00.062 so now I'm annoyed. Set Then there was the school 0:08:00.062 --> 0:08:03.182 who played this prank on their students. 0:08:03.022 --> 0:08:06.262 Morning, Year eleven. I hope we are all well this morning. 0:08:06.702 --> 0:08:10.341 I have some really significant news. This new will affect 0:08:10.381 --> 0:08:14.942 you all directly and will impact your HC and graduation dates. 0:08:14.982 --> 0:08:19.222 With this said, a mandatory year thirteen has been added 0:08:19.222 --> 0:08:23.582 to your educational pathway and therefore you will no longer 0:08:23.622 --> 0:08:27.102 be graduating in twenty twenty six. You will now be 0:08:27.222 --> 0:08:33.742 graduating in twenty twenty seven. Thank you for it is 0:08:33.782 --> 0:08:39.942 compulsory that you complete your thirteenth year. Here is one 0:08:40.062 --> 0:08:42.662 other five compiece of information I need to share with you. 0:08:43.142 --> 0:08:46.502 Woollongong High School of the Performing Arts this year was 0:08:46.542 --> 0:08:49.982 selected to be a part of the twenty twenty five 0:08:50.262 --> 0:08:51.782 April Fool's Day Joke. 0:08:56.182 --> 0:08:57.982 Got Up I love. 0:08:58.102 --> 0:08:58.942 I actually love that. 0:08:59.102 --> 0:09:01.182 I like that one schools deserve more fun. 0:09:01.302 --> 0:09:02.822 I think we can all agree. I think that's fun, 0:09:02.902 --> 0:09:05.902 and I'll allow that broadly. The wall to wall pranks, 0:09:05.942 --> 0:09:08.342 I'm not into it. And it got me thinking about 0:09:08.382 --> 0:09:12.102 how some people are prank people. They love a practical joke, 0:09:12.342 --> 0:09:14.502 and then there are people like me who have absolutely 0:09:14.542 --> 0:09:15.422 no patience for it. 0:09:15.982 --> 0:09:19.222 Am I jaded? Or does April Fool's Day grind your 0:09:19.262 --> 0:09:19.782 gears a bit? 0:09:20.222 --> 0:09:20.542 Holly? 0:09:21.102 --> 0:09:24.222 I can't stand them. I'm the same as you, absolutely 0:09:24.302 --> 0:09:27.662 And I think it's because ultimately, there's always a bot 0:09:27.702 --> 0:09:30.182 of the joke in practical jokes, right, And I'm going 0:09:30.262 --> 0:09:34.582 to generalize enormously. Men tend to really like practical jokes. 0:09:34.582 --> 0:09:37.502 If you think about I always think about the stories 0:09:37.502 --> 0:09:39.902 of movie stars who play practical jokes on each other 0:09:39.942 --> 0:09:41.582 and in the press tours that will be like, oh, 0:09:41.702 --> 0:09:43.382 Clooney was such a joker on set. 0:09:43.502 --> 0:09:45.022 He always did this, he always did that. 0:09:45.302 --> 0:09:47.742 It's like lols if you George Clooney, but it just 0:09:47.782 --> 0:09:50.622 makes everyone else look dumb. And I wonder if women 0:09:50.782 --> 0:09:54.542 are kind of used to being belittled a bit in 0:09:54.582 --> 0:09:57.502 a way that maybe men aren't so we're very sensitive 0:09:57.542 --> 0:10:01.262 and I'm told to laugh. It's just a joke. Stop 0:10:01.262 --> 0:10:01.782 taking this off. 0:10:01.822 --> 0:10:04.342 So seriously, you know what, because I think the practical 0:10:04.462 --> 0:10:07.422 joke famously Leonardo DiCaprio and Jonah Hill. There are all 0:10:07.422 --> 0:10:09.222 these videos and they're quite funny the way that they 0:10:09.662 --> 0:10:12.302 kind of paying each other and praying each other. But 0:10:12.382 --> 0:10:15.542 practical jokes are about power, right, So if you're in 0:10:15.622 --> 0:10:18.382 a workplace, you can't pull a practical joke on your boss. 0:10:18.382 --> 0:10:18.942 You know you can't. 0:10:19.382 --> 0:10:22.822 You can too, it's too risky. You can with maybe 0:10:22.862 --> 0:10:27.622 a coworker. And I think that that's it. That it's 0:10:27.702 --> 0:10:31.942 like the butt of the joke is the audience or 0:10:31.982 --> 0:10:33.261 the person who's confused. 0:10:33.302 --> 0:10:34.582 There is always a butt, isn't there. 0:10:34.662 --> 0:10:37.902 There's always a butt, and it's not you. And the 0:10:37.942 --> 0:10:40.502 other thing about April Fool's lie, that's not true. 0:10:40.542 --> 0:10:44.262 So one time at Mum Maya, someone had the idea 0:10:44.262 --> 0:10:47.742 of making an announcement or doing an article about how 0:10:48.382 --> 0:10:50.622 I changed my name from me a freedman to me 0:10:50.702 --> 0:10:57.742 a freed woman because my idea, but we published it. 0:10:57.782 --> 0:10:59.462 So the butt of the joke was on me really 0:10:59.582 --> 0:11:01.782 because it was like, oh maybe that with button the 0:11:01.862 --> 0:11:04.342 joke was on people who believed it anyway, completely backfired 0:11:04.382 --> 0:11:08.142 because six months later people were still saying to me, like, 0:11:08.182 --> 0:11:11.582 my friends, did you really change your name? And I 0:11:11.622 --> 0:11:15.182 was like no, because the problem is unless the payoff, 0:11:15.222 --> 0:11:18.142 like in that video about the Department of Education, and 0:11:18.182 --> 0:11:21.062 in that context, the payoff came immediately, so. 0:11:21.062 --> 0:11:22.542 You saw it all together. 0:11:22.782 --> 0:11:25.142 But even when I was flicking through Instagram last night 0:11:25.142 --> 0:11:27.342 and I saw the dice in one I read the 0:11:27.382 --> 0:11:30.062 caption because I thought, wait, is this and then I 0:11:30.102 --> 0:11:32.542 had to go and look read all the comments to 0:11:32.702 --> 0:11:35.702 check if it was in April Fool's Day joke. So 0:11:35.942 --> 0:11:38.422 if you don't have that payoff straight away, it can 0:11:38.462 --> 0:11:39.222 be a bit confusing. 0:11:39.302 --> 0:11:42.742 I wonder if practical jokes generally are a bit out 0:11:42.742 --> 0:11:45.702 of fashion, right, because I mean those ones are not 0:11:45.782 --> 0:11:49.062 they don't have a visual victim. But if you think 0:11:49.102 --> 0:11:52.382 about the shows that were massive for a while, like 0:11:52.542 --> 0:11:57.182 Punked and Candid Camera, which were all about tricking somebody 0:11:57.262 --> 0:11:59.942 famous or not famous for quite a long period of 0:11:59.942 --> 0:12:05.342 time and then revealing to them, and it was very cringey. 0:12:05.502 --> 0:12:08.622 Like massive celebrities like Justin Timberlake and people like that 0:12:09.142 --> 0:12:13.622 were disposed at their rawst by that because as we 0:12:13.702 --> 0:12:16.542 discovered when we did a little prank this week at work, 0:12:16.702 --> 0:12:18.422 that you will all find out about if you come 0:12:18.462 --> 0:12:21.582 to the live show, you can't fake anything in that 0:12:21.622 --> 0:12:27.022 moment way. And I wonder if now, with social media 0:12:27.102 --> 0:12:30.462 being so prevalent, we say that's made us more authentic, 0:12:30.502 --> 0:12:34.702 but actually it means we curate ourselves very carefully, and 0:12:34.902 --> 0:12:39.062 also we know how easily weaponized any moment of embarrassment 0:12:39.142 --> 0:12:41.582 is so like for a teenager, like a video, a 0:12:41.622 --> 0:12:44.502 quick video of you tripping over something or whatever will 0:12:44.502 --> 0:12:47.102 be sent around the school in a hot minute, and 0:12:47.142 --> 0:12:49.302 you will be a massive butt of a joke that's 0:12:49.382 --> 0:12:51.342 mortifying for you. You know, so in a way that 0:12:51.342 --> 0:12:52.582 that didn't used to be the case. 0:12:52.782 --> 0:12:54.942 I don't think practical jokes are out of fashion. I'm 0:12:54.982 --> 0:12:58.382 thinking about impractical jokers the show with the Inspired Unemployed 0:12:58.422 --> 0:13:00.942 that recently was on Paramount and that had an audience. 0:13:00.942 --> 0:13:03.422 I would say most of them were men est But 0:13:03.702 --> 0:13:06.742 I reckon it's got something to do with the social 0:13:06.782 --> 0:13:11.062 media element because the for fools Day jokes had been 0:13:11.062 --> 0:13:13.462 co opted by brand since about the nineteen twenties, right, 0:13:13.822 --> 0:13:16.382 But when we saw a billboard or when we saw 0:13:16.422 --> 0:13:18.942 an ad for something, there was an innate sense of 0:13:18.982 --> 0:13:22.502 trust and therefore it was a flip to then go oh, 0:13:22.542 --> 0:13:24.902 I've been tricked, and it was a sign of brand 0:13:25.062 --> 0:13:28.502 trust like car brands used to do it, that they 0:13:28.542 --> 0:13:31.542 could be bold enough to on a day trick their audience. 0:13:31.822 --> 0:13:35.662 Now we are always being tricked. I go on to 0:13:35.742 --> 0:13:38.022 my social media and there is a no innate sense 0:13:38.022 --> 0:13:41.062 of trust. I'm already on my guard. I'm already expecting 0:13:41.062 --> 0:13:44.622 to be hoodwinked because of fake news, misinformation out of 0:13:44.702 --> 0:13:45.222 those things. 0:13:45.222 --> 0:13:48.782 But you mentioned that show on Paramount Plus cast your 0:13:48.782 --> 0:13:53.662 mind back when they worked with those Australian feminists who 0:13:53.782 --> 0:13:56.622 lured their audience there to come and watch this panel 0:13:56.742 --> 0:13:58.982 or debate, and then it turned out to be a 0:13:59.062 --> 0:14:02.702 joke and there was massive backlatch against those women and 0:14:02.742 --> 0:14:05.702 the inspired on employed guys because the butt of the 0:14:05.822 --> 0:14:09.182 joke was the audience. Yes, and they found massively betrayed. 0:14:09.702 --> 0:14:12.062 Very sensitive to it because it can be weaponized in 0:14:12.102 --> 0:14:15.342 a way. Your embarrassment can be weaponized in a way 0:14:15.382 --> 0:14:17.902 that it couldn't be back then, right, So as I say, 0:14:18.102 --> 0:14:22.142 your sort of embarrassed reaction to suddenly being revealed that 0:14:22.142 --> 0:14:25.942 you've been tricked, can suddenly travel everywhere. 0:14:25.502 --> 0:14:27.542 In a heartbeat in a way that it couldn't before. 0:14:27.582 --> 0:14:30.062 So I think it's riskier, the stakes are much higher. 0:14:30.142 --> 0:14:32.302 Yeah, and I think too that we feel like we're 0:14:32.302 --> 0:14:34.742 being tricked all the time. We almost feel like we're 0:14:34.742 --> 0:14:37.542 living in an April Fool's Day prank, Like what's happening 0:14:37.542 --> 0:14:37.982 in the US. 0:14:38.022 --> 0:14:39.782 It's like every day feels like an. 0:14:39.742 --> 0:14:40.462 April Foll's Day. 0:14:41.502 --> 0:14:43.262 Mc donaldson. Yeah, all of that. 0:14:43.622 --> 0:14:46.302 You just look at it and then someone makes another 0:14:46.382 --> 0:14:48.742 joke and you're sort of like, can we not trust 0:14:48.782 --> 0:14:49.462 anything anymore? 0:14:49.502 --> 0:14:51.422 Can I imagine what the Trump White House might have 0:14:51.422 --> 0:14:53.142 come up with for April Full's Day? 0:14:53.542 --> 0:14:55.782 Every day is April Full's Day. It's like a MoMA mayor. 0:14:55.782 --> 0:14:58.262 Every day's International Women's Day there every day. 0:14:58.942 --> 0:15:00.782 You know, the strict rules of April Full's Day is 0:15:00.822 --> 0:15:03.102 it only goes to the midday. You're only allowed to 0:15:03.102 --> 0:15:03.502 make joke. 0:15:03.782 --> 0:15:04.262 What is that? 0:15:04.382 --> 0:15:06.142 I don't know, But the strict rules of it are 0:15:06.262 --> 0:15:07.302 is it's a morning thing. 0:15:07.382 --> 0:15:10.342 You know why because by the afternoon we're exp This 0:15:10.422 --> 0:15:11.582 is the thing about human too. 0:15:11.662 --> 0:15:11.942 Prise. 0:15:12.142 --> 0:15:14.942 Humor relies on surprise. So now you get to kind 0:15:14.942 --> 0:15:18.142 of April one. You go look at it and Australian's 0:15:18.462 --> 0:15:21.302 theory Australians hate it more than everyone else because we 0:15:21.382 --> 0:15:23.702 have two days of it because of time zions. 0:15:24.062 --> 0:15:24.742 That's true. 0:15:24.862 --> 0:15:26.782 We have it and we go no no, no, no no, 0:15:26.822 --> 0:15:29.902 and then the US is like, we're releasing in you and. 0:15:29.862 --> 0:15:31.982 We're like, oh, we've been dealing with this brown. 0:15:33.702 --> 0:15:35.822 Practical jokes they used to used to be like a 0:15:35.862 --> 0:15:38.742 real thing of radio right. Yeah, but they always make 0:15:38.782 --> 0:15:42.502 the person look good or they're the butt of the 0:15:42.582 --> 0:15:44.862 joke and im practical jokes. In their defense, they are 0:15:44.902 --> 0:15:47.542 often the butt, So like, what's an example, Well, in 0:15:47.622 --> 0:15:50.182 practical jokes, they're never cruel and they never humiliate people. 0:15:50.182 --> 0:15:53.262 That's not their brand. No, Well, Hamish and Andy would 0:15:53.302 --> 0:15:55.622 call someone one of their most viral videos saying, will 0:15:55.622 --> 0:15:56.942 you be a reference for me? 0:15:57.022 --> 0:15:57.902 I know, I don't know you. 0:16:00.302 --> 0:16:00.902 James speaking? 0:16:01.062 --> 0:16:01.382 OK? 0:16:01.622 --> 0:16:01.822 Mate? 0:16:01.822 --> 0:16:05.582 Sorry, my name's Tim. How are you mate? I wonder 0:16:05.582 --> 0:16:07.982 if you can help me out of a slightly sticky situation. 0:16:08.182 --> 0:16:10.822 I'm just about to go into a job interview at 0:16:10.822 --> 0:16:11.942 an accounting firm. 0:16:12.302 --> 0:16:12.822 I don't know why. 0:16:12.902 --> 0:16:14.662 I Just've written down a random number and I just 0:16:14.662 --> 0:16:16.222 like to call it to see if it's a real thing. 0:16:16.302 --> 0:16:18.302 It's your number. But then it's occurred to me they 0:16:18.342 --> 0:16:19.982 might call it, but I doubt they will. But if 0:16:20.022 --> 0:16:22.062 someone calls you and says, do you know Tim Barnard? 0:16:23.182 --> 0:16:23.542 Can you. 0:16:25.942 --> 0:16:27.902 I'm going for a job at an accounting firm, but 0:16:28.022 --> 0:16:30.142 just say that, I'm just going to put you down 0:16:30.142 --> 0:16:31.102 as a personal reference. 0:16:31.662 --> 0:16:33.262 Yes, over my. 0:16:33.302 --> 0:16:35.142 Back, blah blah blah, Okay, a river bike. 0:16:35.542 --> 0:16:36.262 I've got your covered. 0:16:36.382 --> 0:16:36.942 Is that all right? 0:16:38.182 --> 0:16:40.782 And this guy went to great lengths to be a 0:16:40.822 --> 0:16:44.702 reference for Hamish Nandy and was dubbed the nicest guy right, 0:16:45.022 --> 0:16:47.862 dubbed the nicest guy in Australia. That you kind of go, oh, 0:16:47.862 --> 0:16:51.182 this makes me feel good, Whereas when I see people 0:16:51.222 --> 0:16:55.822 who have been humiliated, I just kind of I remember 0:16:55.862 --> 0:16:58.262 being at school and there was a trick pulled on 0:16:58.262 --> 0:16:59.822 one of our classes, I think for like a muck 0:16:59.902 --> 0:17:03.542 update thing, and we were filmed and they said afterwards 0:17:03.542 --> 0:17:03.942 they were. 0:17:03.782 --> 0:17:05.182 Like, we should have seen your face. 0:17:05.182 --> 0:17:07.582 You should have seen I hated that feeling. I just went, 0:17:07.662 --> 0:17:10.102 I don't like nobody to that joke. 0:17:10.262 --> 0:17:11.102 She so vulnerable. 0:17:11.142 --> 0:17:14.502 The worst one is speaking of vulnerable is when people 0:17:14.581 --> 0:17:17.821 scare you there's a certain type of person who likes 0:17:17.861 --> 0:17:20.742 going to pop out, pop out. But do you also 0:17:20.782 --> 0:17:22.901 remember when people used to come up behind you and 0:17:22.942 --> 0:17:25.901 put their hands over your eyes, And I think it 0:17:26.022 --> 0:17:28.981 took a lot of women getting very distressed by that. 0:17:29.821 --> 0:17:33.021 People don't do that anymore, luckily, because I hate that. 0:17:33.101 --> 0:17:35.262 I just even walk around my house and get startled 0:17:35.262 --> 0:17:37.341 by members of my own family, even with them out 0:17:37.422 --> 0:17:38.421 not trying to scare me. 0:17:38.982 --> 0:17:41.821 While we're on April, a little bit more feedback, since 0:17:41.821 --> 0:17:45.061 the month has only just been a few days ago. 0:17:45.182 --> 0:17:48.061 I signed up for a ten day meditation challenge online. 0:17:48.101 --> 0:17:51.421 I made it to day three, right, and then I 0:17:51.502 --> 0:17:54.142 looked at the date and they went, ah, I'm right 0:17:54.222 --> 0:17:57.341 on time. I'm having a little April moment, like that 0:17:57.621 --> 0:17:59.701 moment of the year where you go, I'm going to 0:17:59.742 --> 0:18:02.461 get everything sorted out because you've started in January. You 0:18:02.502 --> 0:18:04.742 were like, we've got word of the year, We've set things. 0:18:04.782 --> 0:18:06.742 Then you live for three months, everything goes to shit, 0:18:06.982 --> 0:18:10.341 and then you reset your reset and it's a thing. 0:18:10.542 --> 0:18:12.821 So there's a thing called April theory, and it's the 0:18:12.861 --> 0:18:15.422 idea and it's you know, all over TikTok and everything 0:18:15.661 --> 0:18:18.182 that April is actually the start of the new year 0:18:18.222 --> 0:18:21.222 in a way, so it's the season shift for a start, 0:18:21.222 --> 0:18:23.702 whichever hemisphere you're in, it's the season shift from one 0:18:23.702 --> 0:18:26.742 of the main character seasons to one of the side 0:18:26.861 --> 0:18:30.622 character seasons. There's something star shifting, you know. I never 0:18:30.702 --> 0:18:33.742 understand that it's eight aries season. 0:18:33.861 --> 0:18:36.982