WEBVTT - Prince William Has Entered The Chat 0:00:08.234 --> 0:00:14.874 You're listening to a mom with mea podcast that's huge. 0:00:15.114 --> 0:00:16.314 Yeah, no, but it's all me and Andy. 0:00:16.314 --> 0:00:17.553 You're talking about what are you going to do to 0:00:17.634 --> 0:00:17.874 keep it? 0:00:17.914 --> 0:00:19.154 What have you got coming up and tell. 0:00:19.034 --> 0:00:21.834 The people tell you we can't beat you at your game. 0:00:21.874 --> 0:00:24.114 I'll just keep refreshing it till we get back there. Yeah, 0:00:24.554 --> 0:00:25.034 well done. 0:00:25.114 --> 0:00:28.154 Who was that Jesse was so referring to Hamish? 0:00:28.154 --> 0:00:31.714 Blake has finally released a statement conceded. 0:00:31.474 --> 0:00:35.994 Regarding our victory in the podcast Ranker where we did 0:00:36.193 --> 0:00:40.833 beat Hamish Nandy. They are usually number one. We got 0:00:40.913 --> 0:00:44.153 number one. It's of course completely irrelevant that they are 0:00:44.153 --> 0:00:44.833 on holidays, but. 0:00:44.913 --> 0:00:46.473 They haven't really been releasing them. 0:00:46.394 --> 0:00:48.434 No, and that Hamish has probably been laying by a 0:00:48.473 --> 0:00:49.954 pool with a cocktail. 0:00:50.114 --> 0:00:52.114 Do you know what I heard when I heard that? 0:00:52.434 --> 0:00:53.714 I heard a scared man. 0:00:53.874 --> 0:00:56.194 I heard a scared man too. I mean it was 0:00:57.234 --> 0:01:00.194 it was diplomatic. He'd clearly prepared that statement and really 0:01:00.234 --> 0:01:01.634 thought about what he was going to say. 0:01:01.754 --> 0:01:04.194 Yeah, it's clearly true that he and Andy spoke of 0:01:04.234 --> 0:01:04.714 nothing else. 0:01:04.874 --> 0:01:08.234 Yes, and it's clear that that certainly wasn't the. 0:01:08.154 --> 0:01:10.834 First he'd heard of the fact we beat him in 0:01:10.834 --> 0:01:13.074 the Red gun that maybe he's been a bit distracted. 0:01:13.634 --> 0:01:15.914 I would say he is a dignified loser. 0:01:16.074 --> 0:01:19.874 He's a dignified loser, and you're in our thoughts, Hamish. 0:01:19.474 --> 0:01:22.154 Yeah, better luck next month. Actually, I don't even think 0:01:22.154 --> 0:01:25.034 he's back next month. Better luck in July when you 0:01:25.114 --> 0:01:27.234 decide to come back for five minutes and you smash her. 0:01:27.514 --> 0:01:31.234 But anyway, out Loud as Welcome to Australia's number one podcast. 0:01:31.674 --> 0:01:35.074 We keep saying that until Hamish is our annual needs 0:01:35.074 --> 0:01:35.874 back to work. 0:01:36.114 --> 0:01:38.074 This is Mama Mire out Loud and it's what women 0:01:38.114 --> 0:01:41.314 are actually talking about. On Monday, the twenty third of February. 0:01:41.394 --> 0:01:43.953 I'm Holly Wayne Wright, I'm Jesse Stevens. 0:01:43.514 --> 0:01:46.114 And I'm Amelia Lester and here's. 0:01:45.914 --> 0:01:48.594 What's on our agenda for today. So Prince William was 0:01:48.634 --> 0:01:51.234 just at the bafter's right. Just happened just before we 0:01:51.274 --> 0:01:53.474 got on air, and someone asked him if it's in 0:01:53.554 --> 0:01:58.634 Hamnet and he gave a very understandable response to that. 0:01:58.914 --> 0:02:01.794 That suggests he's had maybe other things on his mind. 0:02:01.834 --> 0:02:04.194 He's not maybe in the mental yeah. 0:02:04.034 --> 0:02:06.954 Like I think perhaps the fact that his uncle may 0:02:06.954 --> 0:02:08.874 have just put him and his dad and everybody else 0:02:08.913 --> 0:02:11.353 out of a job, so we will be discussing the 0:02:11.394 --> 0:02:14.594 ongoing fallout from Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. 0:02:14.994 --> 0:02:18.994 Plus, we finally know what replaced the girl boss feminism 0:02:19.114 --> 0:02:22.754 of the twenty tens. It is the burnout feminism of 0:02:22.754 --> 0:02:25.194 the twenty twenties. But we want to know if that 0:02:25.234 --> 0:02:27.634 trend is actually really any better. 0:02:28.354 --> 0:02:30.874 And we all think we know what happened last week 0:02:30.914 --> 0:02:33.954 when Channel nine's Danika Mason went to air drunk from 0:02:33.994 --> 0:02:35.074 the Winter Olympics. 0:02:35.114 --> 0:02:37.754 But the truth is a little bit more complicated. 0:02:38.714 --> 0:02:42.794 But first, so as I say, Prince William, Princess Catherine, 0:02:42.794 --> 0:02:44.793 they're at the Baftis. They used to always go to 0:02:44.834 --> 0:02:46.514 the Baftis, but they haven't been for three years because 0:02:46.514 --> 0:02:49.794 of Catherine's health. Right, so this is a triumphant return 0:02:49.874 --> 0:02:52.154 to the red carpet, as the tablelats would say. She 0:02:52.234 --> 0:02:54.594 was wearing this gorgeous Gucci frog that she's born before 0:02:54.994 --> 0:02:59.194 I know she's recycling it, which is ace. But unlike 0:02:59.234 --> 0:03:01.314 previous years, when they step out of the car and 0:03:01.354 --> 0:03:03.994 onto the red carpet, they just get yelled at from 0:03:04.034 --> 0:03:07.274 all these paps, going is the monarchy in peril? Well 0:03:07.314 --> 0:03:10.034 you miss it all over William if you're don't about 0:03:10.074 --> 0:03:13.034 to resign and he's like, oh fuck. And then one 0:03:13.034 --> 0:03:15.994 of the journos asks him, have you seen Hamnet, which 0:03:16.074 --> 0:03:17.554 is a fair question. They knew it was going to 0:03:17.594 --> 0:03:19.594 win Big English movie, and he. 0:03:19.634 --> 0:03:21.514 Said, A famously sad movie. 0:03:21.594 --> 0:03:23.954 It's very sad emotional movie. I know lots of people 0:03:23.954 --> 0:03:26.994 who share Prince William's sentiment on this. He said, I 0:03:27.074 --> 0:03:29.554 need to be in quite a calm state. He said 0:03:29.634 --> 0:03:31.913 to watch it with um and I am not at 0:03:31.914 --> 0:03:34.914 the moment, so I will save it now. Fair lots 0:03:34.954 --> 0:03:36.994 of people feel that way about Hamnet. Kate was there, 0:03:37.034 --> 0:03:39.874 she was like, I've watched it, she said, cried. She 0:03:39.874 --> 0:03:41.714 had cried, mine is out my eyes when all puffy. 0:03:41.714 --> 0:03:44.714 I'm like me too, you too? Yeah? Anyway, why is 0:03:44.754 --> 0:03:47.234 William not calm? William is not calm because, as you 0:03:47.234 --> 0:03:49.714 would know if you listen to our special emergency episode 0:03:49.754 --> 0:03:53.674 on Friday, his uncle, formerly known as Prince Andrew, was 0:03:53.794 --> 0:03:56.714 arrested in the UK on Thursday, and the fallout for 0:03:56.794 --> 0:03:59.634 that has now led us to a place where people 0:03:59.634 --> 0:04:02.434 are saying, is this the end of the monarchy? Is 0:04:02.554 --> 0:04:04.914 King Charles about to abdicate? Jesse? Have you heard all 0:04:04.914 --> 0:04:06.074 this abdication chat. 0:04:06.394 --> 0:04:06.634 Yeah. 0:04:06.674 --> 0:04:09.554 I listened to an emergency episode of Mummy out loud 0:04:09.594 --> 0:04:11.594 on Friday. I had not seen anything. I had not 0:04:11.634 --> 0:04:15.554 seen pictures, and then I listened to you explain it 0:04:15.594 --> 0:04:17.674 all to me. And I must say that when I 0:04:17.714 --> 0:04:21.914 saw William use the word calm, I thought it was 0:04:22.594 --> 0:04:26.234 very revealing because the keep calm and carry on is 0:04:26.274 --> 0:04:29.394 the royal mantra, and he was basically saying, I am 0:04:29.474 --> 0:04:34.193 not calm right now. I am completely thrown by this. 0:04:34.553 --> 0:04:37.274 I think that they've been very strategic in what they 0:04:37.313 --> 0:04:39.914 have and haven't said, but I can't imagine the family 0:04:40.433 --> 0:04:40.794 fall out. 0:04:41.393 --> 0:04:44.433 If you look at Charles's statement that he released after 0:04:44.474 --> 0:04:48.393 the arrest, it was a real departure from royal protocol, 0:04:48.433 --> 0:04:51.034 which is normally all about W and R and the 0:04:51.113 --> 0:04:55.473 royal WI. And his statement began, I have learned with 0:04:55.553 --> 0:05:00.153 the deepest concern the news about Andrew Mountbatten Windsor. That 0:05:00.234 --> 0:05:02.313 is not how you rever to your brother. No, you 0:05:02.354 --> 0:05:04.914 don't rever to your brother by aseful name. To me, 0:05:04.993 --> 0:05:07.073 it was giving the Mariah Carey. 0:05:07.234 --> 0:05:10.113 I don't know her mean yes, yeah, yeaheah, I don't 0:05:10.234 --> 0:05:11.593 know her vibes. 0:05:11.354 --> 0:05:13.674 But good luck with that, Charles, because so a bit 0:05:13.714 --> 0:05:16.754 of a recap on what's happened since so Andrew Mountbatten 0:05:16.753 --> 0:05:19.474 Windsor was arrested early on Thursday morning and he was 0:05:19.513 --> 0:05:22.354 taken to a police station in Question for around twelve. 0:05:22.034 --> 0:05:24.034 Hours, which means I had a lot of questions. 0:05:24.113 --> 0:05:26.953 Yes, he was not charged and he has not been charged, 0:05:27.234 --> 0:05:29.234 and it's important to note, of course, no charge is 0:05:29.313 --> 0:05:32.713 laid and obviously he's innocent till proven guilty. He was 0:05:32.753 --> 0:05:35.234 not cautioned, he was not bailed, he was just released. 0:05:36.154 --> 0:05:39.834 So there's that. But the arrest itself has been one 0:05:39.834 --> 0:05:42.553 of the biggest stories in the world, but particularly shocking 0:05:42.553 --> 0:05:44.553 for the royal family. Apparently King Charles didn't know it 0:05:44.674 --> 0:05:46.394 was going to happen. Nobody in the family knew it 0:05:46.474 --> 0:05:48.714 was going to happen. Andrew didn't, and that's you can 0:05:48.753 --> 0:05:52.354 see why. Obviously, if Scotland Yard had tipped Charles off 0:05:52.714 --> 0:05:55.034 and then Andrew was suddenly not home when the cops 0:05:55.034 --> 0:05:57.673 came knocking on the door, that would have been problem enough. 0:05:58.113 --> 0:06:00.873 Everybody's waiting now for the other shoe to drop. So 0:06:01.393 --> 0:06:04.153 the ripple effect of this is enormous and where we've 0:06:04.234 --> 0:06:06.953 landed today, which is this sort of is this really 0:06:06.953 --> 0:06:08.433 good to be the end of the monarchy? And everybody 0:06:08.513 --> 0:06:10.994 shouting at Prince William about it because there's a lot 0:06:10.993 --> 0:06:14.113 of reporting out there that this scandal is so big 0:06:14.154 --> 0:06:16.473 and goes so far and so deep into the monarchy 0:06:16.714 --> 0:06:20.873 that Charles may have no choice really but to maybe abdicate. 0:06:21.034 --> 0:06:23.433 Can I ask you about that, because when I've seen 0:06:23.474 --> 0:06:27.553 whispers of that and reports saying that there's maybe a 0:06:27.594 --> 0:06:29.354 push for him to abdicate, or that it might be 0:06:29.354 --> 0:06:32.873 something he chooses to do on his own accord, why like, 0:06:32.953 --> 0:06:34.553 what does this have to do with Charles? 0:06:34.674 --> 0:06:37.594 So the reason is this didn't come from nowhere. This 0:06:37.633 --> 0:06:40.953 has obviously that Andrew business has been an open secret, 0:06:40.993 --> 0:06:43.154 like different levels of it. It's important to note that 0:06:43.193 --> 0:06:46.674 what he was arrested for misconduct in public office, and 0:06:46.714 --> 0:06:49.674 as we've talked about on Friday's emergency meeting, what he 0:06:49.714 --> 0:06:52.553 appears to have been arrested for are the allegations that 0:06:52.594 --> 0:06:55.193 came out in the latest drop of the Epstein files 0:06:55.474 --> 0:06:58.713 that while he was Special Trade Envoy for Great Britain, 0:06:59.154 --> 0:07:03.474 he was emailing Epstein and the allegedly sharing very sensitive 0:07:03.513 --> 0:07:06.553 information that was good for Epstein and his pals things 0:07:06.553 --> 0:07:09.554 that you should share. So that is what he was 0:07:09.594 --> 0:07:13.914 actually arrested for. In twenty twenty two, Andrew reached an 0:07:13.953 --> 0:07:16.554 out of court settlement with Virginia Giffrey in a US 0:07:16.634 --> 0:07:19.754 civil case which involved an undisclosed payout of a very 0:07:19.874 --> 0:07:22.713 large sum of money and no admission of guilt on 0:07:22.754 --> 0:07:25.394 his part. That money is widely believed to have come 0:07:25.434 --> 0:07:28.273 from the Queen, from King Charles, from his family. Basically, 0:07:28.314 --> 0:07:30.914 he didn't have twelve million pounds lying around, so there 0:07:30.953 --> 0:07:33.634 are a lot of lot of speculation that how much 0:07:33.634 --> 0:07:35.754 did everybody know and how much did they enable him. 0:07:36.274 --> 0:07:38.634 There is a journalist and an author called Andrew Lowney 0:07:38.714 --> 0:07:42.194 who wrote the book about Andrew and Fergie last year 0:07:42.234 --> 0:07:44.234 that became almost a bit of a catalyst for all 0:07:44.274 --> 0:07:46.434 of this. And he was interviewed by the Quickie this 0:07:46.514 --> 0:07:48.794 morning and this is what he said about the problem 0:07:48.834 --> 0:07:49.794 that Charles faces. 0:07:50.274 --> 0:07:54.394 I have counterless stories in my book entitled in My Research, 0:07:54.594 --> 0:07:57.074 of people going and complaining to the Palace, to the 0:07:57.154 --> 0:07:59.954 Queen's private secretary and being sent away with a flea 0:07:59.994 --> 0:08:02.994 in the ear. And these are intelligence officials, the heads 0:08:03.034 --> 0:08:05.714 of the Foreign Office, and others. So I do think 0:08:05.754 --> 0:08:07.834 this scandal is getting very close to the crown and 0:08:07.874 --> 0:08:10.953 it may well lead to a second abdication, depends what 0:08:11.074 --> 0:08:14.353 he knew and what he did. I think his position 0:08:14.434 --> 0:08:17.554 is very dangerous. You know, clearly they didn't expect this 0:08:17.634 --> 0:08:21.274 Epstein material to be released. They're kind of paddling furiously 0:08:21.354 --> 0:08:24.554 now to see what they can say. So no, I 0:08:24.554 --> 0:08:26.954 think he's you know, as more and more evidence comes out, 0:08:26.994 --> 0:08:29.914 and I suspect it will implicating other members of the 0:08:29.994 --> 0:08:32.514 royal household. I mean they will say perhaps that King 0:08:32.594 --> 0:08:35.274 Charles didn't see it. It went to private secretaries. The 0:08:35.354 --> 0:08:38.634 Queen dealt with it, but he was in effect co 0:08:38.754 --> 0:08:40.514 ruling with the Queen for the last few years of 0:08:40.554 --> 0:08:43.474 her reign. He's been the king for the last few years. 0:08:43.914 --> 0:08:46.794 This is a problem that goes way back. And Andrew 0:08:46.874 --> 0:08:49.554 was basically an accident waiting to happen. So I think 0:08:49.594 --> 0:08:52.034 it's going to be very difficult to keep his hands clean. 0:08:52.034 --> 0:08:54.674 I mean, the wagons are circling. I think it's looking 0:08:54.754 --> 0:08:55.714 very dangerous for him. 0:08:55.954 --> 0:08:59.754 Wow, the fact that he's saying that Andrew Lowney really 0:08:59.954 --> 0:09:02.994 I was pretty skeptical of this idea that Charles would 0:09:03.074 --> 0:09:06.594 step down, because since when has Charles ever wanted to 0:09:06.634 --> 0:09:09.354 take respond on stability for anything anyone at his family does. 0:09:09.434 --> 0:09:11.994 But that's a very credible source. 0:09:11.834 --> 0:09:14.874 It is, and it's also it's interesting because I don't 0:09:14.874 --> 0:09:18.194 think anyone suggesting this will happen tomorrow, next week, next month, 0:09:18.594 --> 0:09:20.434 But people are now saying that they think that that 0:09:20.794 --> 0:09:23.834 when Andrew was properly cast out by Charles last October, 0:09:23.874 --> 0:09:26.594 when he had his prince title revoked and he was 0:09:26.674 --> 0:09:28.634 kicked out of the family home and all those things, 0:09:29.154 --> 0:09:32.194 Charles didn't know that this exact arrest was coming, but 0:09:32.314 --> 0:09:35.354 they knew that the chickens were coming home to roost, 0:09:35.714 --> 0:09:38.514 and he by doing that level of stepping back, he 0:09:38.634 --> 0:09:40.954 was signaling I'm not going to stand in the way. 0:09:40.994 --> 0:09:42.354 The palace are not going to stand in the way 0:09:42.354 --> 0:09:44.634 anymore of whatever you're going to do. And that was 0:09:44.674 --> 0:09:47.274 one step in this. The problem that the royal family 0:09:47.314 --> 0:09:49.114 have if they want to survive, of course, is that 0:09:49.194 --> 0:09:53.594 there is an enormous public dissatisfaction with obviously Andrew's actions, 0:09:53.874 --> 0:09:56.394 but also the perception that there's just a completely different 0:09:56.434 --> 0:09:58.274 set of rules for royals, which there always has been. 0:09:58.354 --> 0:10:01.314 Let's be honest, But that's becoming increasingly unpopular, and the 0:10:01.354 --> 0:10:04.914 speculation is that William is a clean skin in this. 0:10:05.034 --> 0:10:07.714 No one can suggest that he was complicit. He has 0:10:07.754 --> 0:10:10.314 been very stern. He has said over and over again 0:10:10.354 --> 0:10:12.394 that he wants to modernize and slim land the monarchy. 0:10:12.714 --> 0:10:14.953 So there is speculation that Charles could sort of take 0:10:14.994 --> 0:10:18.074 the fall, as it were, for this and then at 0:10:18.074 --> 0:10:20.794 some point step down, maybe because of his health, maybe 0:10:20.834 --> 0:10:23.034 for other reasons. He's seventy seven and he's not very 0:10:23.034 --> 0:10:26.554 well and allow a different kind of monarchy to come through. 0:10:27.034 --> 0:10:29.554 But that slim down monarchy is going to have a 0:10:29.594 --> 0:10:33.674 direct implication on Harry and Magant very much, because he's 0:10:33.674 --> 0:10:35.594 not going to slim it down in one way and 0:10:35.634 --> 0:10:36.554 not the other way. 0:10:36.554 --> 0:10:39.434 Oh well, if you look at so they call them 0:10:39.474 --> 0:10:43.994 the pushbike royals, right, the royals of Scandinavia, so Norway, Denmark, Sweden. 0:10:43.994 --> 0:10:46.994 They have this model of monarchy where the only royals 0:10:47.034 --> 0:10:50.474 are actually the king for the monarch and their direct heir. 0:10:50.794 --> 0:10:53.074 So that means that the only if they were to 0:10:53.114 --> 0:10:56.154 follow a Nordic model, the only official royals who get 0:10:56.194 --> 0:10:58.674 any kind of public allowance as it were, and are 0:10:58.754 --> 0:11:02.714 working royals would be William, Catherine and their children and 0:11:02.754 --> 0:11:05.674 everyone else. Like, of course they're still posh and you 0:11:05.754 --> 0:11:07.994 still get to go to palaces and be involved in 0:11:08.114 --> 0:11:10.754 weddings and whatever, but they're not working members of the 0:11:10.834 --> 0:11:13.874 royal family on the public purse. And in Britain that 0:11:14.034 --> 0:11:16.354 used to be a sprawling group of royals, it's been 0:11:16.434 --> 0:11:17.834 slowly carved out. 0:11:17.914 --> 0:11:19.634 And it's the key that they don't get a title 0:11:19.714 --> 0:11:22.874 to presumab day which are part of what enabled Andrew 0:11:22.954 --> 0:11:25.514 to sort of work in these worlds was his HR 0:11:25.514 --> 0:11:25.914 eight and. 0:11:25.914 --> 0:11:28.314 Gave him status, and he gave those to his daughters 0:11:28.354 --> 0:11:32.234 and famously the Queen's daughter, and when she had her 0:11:32.354 --> 0:11:34.314 children she said, I don't want the titles she could 0:11:34.354 --> 0:11:37.034 have given her daughter and son prince and princess, she said. 0:11:37.114 --> 0:11:39.954 Nat Andrew is probably a surprise to no one as 0:11:39.994 --> 0:11:42.714 more and more of his character becomes apparent. Who's like, absolutely, 0:11:43.074 --> 0:11:44.234 my girls will be princess. 0:11:44.274 --> 0:11:46.634 He had it on his email signature, as we now know. 0:11:47.434 --> 0:11:50.754 So he wanted that one hundred percent. So that will 0:11:50.754 --> 0:11:51.914 be interesting. 0:11:51.474 --> 0:11:55.034 Because Harry and Meghan have just I'm really surprised at 0:11:55.034 --> 0:11:56.034 the restraint they've shown. 0:11:56.634 --> 0:11:59.234 I'm surprised I haven't said anything yet. Really, yeah, I am, 0:11:59.274 --> 0:12:00.874 because this is so. 0:12:01.234 --> 0:12:05.234 Much like I just keep imagining Meghan showing up to 0:12:05.754 --> 0:12:09.074 meet Harry's in laws at the table and being like, wait, 0:12:09.234 --> 0:12:12.394 your uncle, that guy who's just sitting across from me 0:12:12.514 --> 0:12:16.154 was accused of what probably had a lot more insight 0:12:16.274 --> 0:12:18.354 than any of us did. And as you say, it 0:12:18.434 --> 0:12:22.194 was mentioned in Passing and Spare in Harry's book. But 0:12:22.714 --> 0:12:24.434 do you think they will say anything. 0:12:24.994 --> 0:12:28.274 I don't think they'll say anything directly immediately, but I 0:12:28.314 --> 0:12:31.034 think that they would be quite happy sitting in Montecida 0:12:31.114 --> 0:12:33.754 right now. A because they've distanced themselves from an increasingly 0:12:33.794 --> 0:12:37.634 toxic brand. B Because all the reports are that Harry's 0:12:37.634 --> 0:12:39.474 going to go back to the UK in an official 0:12:39.474 --> 0:12:41.994 capacity this northern summer, and Megs might go too, and 0:12:42.034 --> 0:12:45.354 the kids might go too. For the first time. Whether 0:12:45.434 --> 0:12:48.274 or not William really is on the brink of becoming king, 0:12:48.794 --> 0:12:51.074 Harry has a kind of opportunity to set them up 0:12:51.074 --> 0:12:54.914 as sort of almost like more moral superior royals, you know, 0:12:55.394 --> 0:12:58.274 in a different way, and he might lose his title. 0:12:58.674 --> 0:13:00.554 I mean, he clearly wants to really hold onto that 0:13:00.594 --> 0:13:03.434 title too. He's given it to his children if William 0:13:03.474 --> 0:13:05.554 gets his way, but not for a while. There's still 0:13:05.554 --> 0:13:08.274 some time to make hay. I think they'll bide their 0:13:08.314 --> 0:13:09.834 time before they say anything. 0:13:10.074 --> 0:13:11.234 And here's my other question. 0:13:11.714 --> 0:13:13.394 Do we think this is what I think a lot 0:13:13.434 --> 0:13:17.074 of the outrage has been is that Andrew has not 0:13:17.354 --> 0:13:21.634 given official evidence. Do you think that this might. 0:13:22.274 --> 0:13:22.874 Force him to? 0:13:23.074 --> 0:13:26.674 Is there a future in which Andrew has to sit 0:13:26.754 --> 0:13:31.594 on trial and testify and actually reveal the details of 0:13:31.634 --> 0:13:33.154 his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. 0:13:33.234 --> 0:13:34.994 Yes, But the thing is is the details of his 0:13:35.074 --> 0:13:38.354 relationship with Jeffrey Epstein are already revealed. You know, he 0:13:38.434 --> 0:13:41.354 and Sarah Ferguson and some of the people mentioned the most. Yeah, 0:13:41.474 --> 0:13:44.194 in those millions and millions of Epstein, Puss and their daughters, 0:13:44.554 --> 0:13:47.234 that relationship was clearly very close. And they've both been 0:13:47.274 --> 0:13:49.394 proved to have been lying when they said, oh, after 0:13:49.434 --> 0:13:52.194 his conviction, we barely had anything to do with him. 0:13:52.394 --> 0:13:54.274 The same year he was released from prison, Fergie and 0:13:54.274 --> 0:13:57.234 the girls were flown on Epstein's purse two Palm Beach 0:13:57.314 --> 0:14:00.514 to have lunch with him, like they were tight. And 0:14:00.554 --> 0:14:03.714 the Brits are quite smug this weekend about the fact 0:14:03.714 --> 0:14:07.994 that well, at least we're doing something about our Epstein villains. 0:14:08.034 --> 0:14:11.594 Important to note that obviously people said why was he 0:14:11.674 --> 0:14:15.554 arrested rather than just asked him for questioning. Usually in 0:14:15.594 --> 0:14:18.354 a high profile case, the first thing would be helping 0:14:18.394 --> 0:14:22.074 us with our inquiries, right, But the fact that he 0:14:22.154 --> 0:14:24.274 was brought in it meant that the police had power 0:14:24.314 --> 0:14:27.394 to then go and search his house and houses, which 0:14:27.434 --> 0:14:30.274 they did. Also, they could hold him whether he spoke 0:14:30.434 --> 0:14:32.234 or not. They could hold him, whereas if they just 0:14:32.274 --> 0:14:34.394 invited him in at his own discretion, he could just 0:14:35.234 --> 0:14:38.874 make excuses and go. And also it may suggest that 0:14:38.954 --> 0:14:41.474 they had tried to help us with our inquiries several 0:14:41.514 --> 0:14:42.114 times in world. 0:14:42.994 --> 0:14:45.114 Why do you think they did it on his birthday? 0:14:45.314 --> 0:14:48.994 Oh? I don't know, because the fact I was listening 0:14:49.034 --> 0:14:51.994 to reporting saying that to arrest him to question about 0:14:51.994 --> 0:14:54.514 the Epstein connection, they would have had to be cooperating 0:14:54.554 --> 0:14:57.554 with the DOJ in America, So that's an international issue. 0:14:57.994 --> 0:15:00.674 They have also come under criticism for maybe treating him 0:15:00.754 --> 0:15:03.674 and other roles with kid gloves for these past few years. 0:15:04.194 --> 0:15:06.914 Maybe Charles and the Queen and her time were pushing 0:15:06.914 --> 0:15:10.314 them back, just in terms of the ripple effect So 0:15:10.514 --> 0:15:13.794 the other big story this weekend that's come out. Everybody's 0:15:13.794 --> 0:15:16.474 been saying, where's Fergie, Where's Sarah Ferguson. She hasn't been 0:15:16.514 --> 0:15:19.714 seen in Britain since September last year. Some reporting from 0:15:19.754 --> 0:15:22.754 Tom Sykes, who's the Royalist, broke that she had been 0:15:22.754 --> 0:15:25.914 in a clinic in Switzerland over January. That she's obviously 0:15:25.954 --> 0:15:28.634 in a fragile state and she's trying to find where 0:15:28.674 --> 0:15:30.794 she can go. She's been sited in the Middle East. 0:15:30.994 --> 0:15:32.914 Her daughters sometimes work in the Middle East. 0:15:32.914 --> 0:15:34.434 By the way, the clinic that she went to in 0:15:34.434 --> 0:15:37.514 Switzerland is apparently the most expensive rehab clinic in the world. 0:15:37.554 --> 0:15:39.274 And the way she got in there is that she 0:15:39.354 --> 0:15:41.914 did a video on their social media talking about us. 0:15:41.954 --> 0:15:42.674 Of course she did. 0:15:43.594 --> 0:15:45.914 So this is the thing, right, is that one of 0:15:45.954 --> 0:15:48.514 the reasons why Sarah and Andrew have always been problems 0:15:48.514 --> 0:15:52.114 for the royal family is because they don't have enough money, 0:15:52.154 --> 0:15:54.234 in their opinion, to live the way they want to live. 0:15:54.274 --> 0:15:56.314 Tina Brown has always been on the record as saying 0:15:56.314 --> 0:15:59.474 that peripheral royals are a big problem because it's like 0:15:59.514 --> 0:16:01.634 they can't really earn enough to live by getting just 0:16:01.674 --> 0:16:03.474 a good job. You know what I mean, live in 0:16:03.514 --> 0:16:06.394 the way that they are accustomed to. So therefore that's 0:16:06.394 --> 0:16:10.114 why you're staying at your problematic billionaires friend's mansion in 0:16:10.354 --> 0:16:13.514 New York, or talking your way into a clinic in Switzerland, 0:16:13.594 --> 0:16:16.074 or getting a Saudi prince to bankroll your trip to 0:16:16.154 --> 0:16:18.874 the UA. So lots of talk about what Fergie is 0:16:18.874 --> 0:16:20.914 going to do. And of course the princess is Beatrice 0:16:20.914 --> 0:16:22.834 and Eugenie. There has been a lot of sympathy for 0:16:22.914 --> 0:16:25.234 them because they were named hundreds of times in the 0:16:25.274 --> 0:16:28.154 Epstein files, and mostly they were really young at the time. 0:16:29.034 --> 0:16:30.634 A lot of people are saying, if they want to 0:16:30.674 --> 0:16:34.394 show that they are of goodwill during this reckoning, that 0:16:34.434 --> 0:16:36.954 they would hand their titles back to because if their 0:16:36.994 --> 0:16:38.874 father isn't a prince, are the princess? 0:16:39.074 --> 0:16:42.474 Any can't get over how we've learned through these emails 0:16:42.674 --> 0:16:46.794 how their parents, which is so irresponsible in intertwining women 0:16:46.794 --> 0:16:50.994 in Epstein's world. For instance, Beatrice's eighteenth birthday a masked 0:16:51.034 --> 0:16:55.354 ball that apparently costs one hundred pounds. Harvey Weinstein, Julie Maxwell, 0:16:55.394 --> 0:16:58.834 and Jeffrey Epstein attended her eighteenth birthday party. Now that's 0:16:58.874 --> 0:17:00.634 not on her that's on her parents. 0:17:00.714 --> 0:17:03.274 Yeah, absolutely, they probably helped pay for it. 0:17:04.513 --> 0:17:06.113 A fun fact to end on. 0:17:06.394 --> 0:17:09.674 Did you know that fourteen years ago a member of 0:17:09.674 --> 0:17:11.074 the royal family was convicted of. 0:17:10.994 --> 0:17:11.793 A criminal offense. 0:17:12.154 --> 0:17:14.634 Who was that? Jesse was Princess Anne. 0:17:15.194 --> 0:17:19.114 Princess Anne pled guilty after her dog, a three year 0:17:19.154 --> 0:17:23.434 old English bull Terrier called Dotty, bit two children as 0:17:23.434 --> 0:17:25.754 they walked in winds A great part and. 0:17:25.634 --> 0:17:28.434 Shew the book criminal offense. 0:17:28.634 --> 0:17:32.234 Fined five hundred pounds, which we all know was a 0:17:32.234 --> 0:17:34.714 lot of money, a lot that's more than. 0:17:34.674 --> 0:17:38.754 Any fine Andrew's gotten. But you know, Princess Anne did 0:17:38.754 --> 0:17:39.154 her time. 0:17:39.194 --> 0:17:42.553 As they say on dogs. One last thing, Yeah, Sarah 0:17:42.554 --> 0:17:45.914 ferguson Fergie. She famously got the Queen's corgies when the 0:17:45.994 --> 0:17:49.313 Queen did she and she likes to talk about it 0:17:49.354 --> 0:17:51.514 a lot, and she says things like, when the corgies 0:17:51.514 --> 0:17:52.914 come in in the morning and bark at me, I 0:17:52.994 --> 0:17:54.314 like to think it's the Queen. 0:17:54.314 --> 0:17:56.914 Like saying, I definitely put those dogs on like only 0:17:56.954 --> 0:17:58.794 famous to enjoy. 0:17:58.594 --> 0:18:00.994 The now come. 0:18:02.714 --> 0:18:05.874 And apparently it really annoys William and Catherine really. 0:18:05.874 --> 0:18:07.034 That they have the call, that. 0:18:06.994 --> 0:18:09.194 They have the corgies, and that she keeps talking about 0:18:09.234 --> 0:18:12.313 the Corgies because she keeps like insinuating herself closer and 0:18:12.314 --> 0:18:15.074 closer to the Queen. Because Charles is in a difficult situation. 0:18:15.154 --> 0:18:18.234 It's really for him to distance himself completely from Andrew, 0:18:18.234 --> 0:18:20.794 who has to blame his mum. And everybody still loves 0:18:20.794 --> 0:18:23.474 the Queen, even if her the fact that her favorite 0:18:23.514 --> 0:18:27.634 child apparently his nickname from his security detail was the 0:18:27.754 --> 0:18:34.434 C word. It does call a judgment into questions. Okay, 0:18:34.634 --> 0:18:37.034 we'll keep you up to date, friends, keep an eye 0:18:37.034 --> 0:18:38.194 on that teetering crown. 0:18:39.034 --> 0:18:42.314 After the break, a new brand of feminism has replaced 0:18:42.354 --> 0:18:45.634 the girl Boss era, But is it really any better? 0:18:49.634 --> 0:18:51.114