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Speaker 2: Mumma mea acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on Hi. I'm Claire Murphy.

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Speaker 2: This is Mumma MIA's daily news podcast, The Quickie. Just

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Speaker 2: a heads up that today we're going to be talking

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Speaker 2: about weight loss drugs, eating disorders, and substance abuse. If

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Speaker 2: these are difficult subjects for you, please take care when listening.

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Speaker 2: The seventy sixth Primetime Emmy Awards will kick off just

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Speaker 2: a few hours after this episode of The Quickie drops

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Speaker 2: in your feed. It'll be a family affair for the hosts,

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Speaker 2: with Eugene and Dan Levy, who co starred in the

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Speaker 2: wildly popular Shit's Creek, The Masters of Ceremony and the

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Speaker 2: stars of the Japanese drama Showgun are set to take

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Speaker 2: home a stack of awards. But there's a topic of

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Speaker 2: conversation that will be underpinning the red carpet coverage and

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Speaker 2: the stars who take to the stage, and that is

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Speaker 2: which ones are on weight loss drugs? Today we look

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Speaker 2: at how Semma Glue Tide is changing not just the

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Speaker 2: awards ceremonies, but the events around them and why one

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Speaker 2: of The drug manufacturers even went as far as to

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Speaker 2: target celebs who were using their products to get season ready.

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Speaker 2: But first, here's the letters from the Quickie newsroom, Monday,

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Speaker 2: September sixteenth. Shots have been fired in the vicinity of

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Speaker 2: former President Donald Trump as he played a round of

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Speaker 2: golf with friends this morning, but his campaign has said

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Speaker 2: he is safe. The FBI says they're investigating the incident

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Speaker 2: as another suspected assassination attempt on the former president's life.

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Speaker 2: The man who fled the scene in an suv after

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Speaker 2: being shot at by Secret Service agents was apprehended by

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Speaker 2: local law enforcement. He allegedly shot into the golf course

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Speaker 2: from outside the fence using a rifle equipped with a

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Speaker 2: scope and a go pro camera, all of which was

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Speaker 2: dumped in the hedge alongside the golf course. The man

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Speaker 2: reportedly showed little emotion when he was taken into custody

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Speaker 2: and was not armed when he was removed from his vehicle.

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Speaker 2: The incident comes almost exactly two months after a man

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Speaker 2: attempted to assassinate Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania. The

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Speaker 2: Housing Australia Future Fund and National Housing Accord will be

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Speaker 2: granted funding from the federal government today with work to

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Speaker 2: begin in building more than thirteen thousand, seven hundred new

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Speaker 2: social and affordable homes. The Prime Minister, Anthony Alberonizi says

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Speaker 2: the programs will deliver social and affordable housing to those

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Speaker 2: who need it most, saying he himself grew up in

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Speaker 2: social housing and understands how important having a roof over

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Speaker 2: your head is and the opportunities it can create. Round

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Speaker 2: one of the HA Double F funding will unlock nine

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Speaker 2: billion dollars and include more than twelve hundred homes, specifically

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Speaker 2: for women and children escaping domestic violence and older women

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Speaker 2: at risk of homelessness. Construction on almost forty percent of

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Speaker 2: the builds are expected to begin this financial year. The

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Speaker 2: Israeli Defense Force has found that three hostages found dead

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Speaker 2: in Gaza last year likely died in one of their

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Speaker 2: own air strikes. Investigations into the deaths of Corporal Nick Beizar,

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Speaker 2: Sergeant Ron Sherman, and Elliott Toledano, who were all kidnapped

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Speaker 2: in the October seven hamas Tera attack, found it's not

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Speaker 2: possible to definitively determine the circumstances of their deaths, but

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Speaker 2: it's a high probability. They were killed in a strike

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Speaker 2: based on where the bodies were recovered from. This conclusion

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Speaker 2: will place more pressure on the Israeli government to do

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Speaker 2: more to rescue the remaining hostages held by Hamas, but

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Speaker 2: critics say the risk to the hostages and Israeli forces,

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Speaker 2: as well as Palestinian civilians, makes it too much of

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Speaker 2: a risk to do anything other than strike a deal

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Speaker 2: to return them home. The royal family has acknowledged Prince

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Speaker 2: Harry's birthday for the first time since the passing of

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Speaker 2: the Queen, wishing him a happy fortieth. The birthdays of

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Speaker 2: social media in a protocol brought in by King Charles

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Speaker 2: after his mother's passing, but they broke from this to

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Speaker 2: post accompanied by a photo from when Harry was still

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Speaker 2: in the fold in twenty eighteen. A Palace saurce has

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Speaker 2: also hinted that the King will ring his son, as

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Speaker 2: will Catherine, the Princess of Wales, to wish him happy birthday,

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Speaker 2: but there'll be no correspondence between Harry and his big

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Speaker 2: brother William. That's what's happening in the world today. Next,

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Speaker 2: weight loss drugs, designed to help those struggling to manage

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Speaker 2: the US and have many concerns that the push to

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Speaker 2: make the popular weight loss drug semmer Glue Tide, released

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Speaker 3: Some people have been using medicine never meant for them

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Speaker 3: for the smaller dress, the tucks, but that's not the point.

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Speaker 2: It was directly targeting those celebrities who were taking their

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Speaker 2: Hollywood's Red carpet events have always been a showcase of

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Speaker 2: entire industry surrounding these stars to at affairs. Because walking

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Speaker 2: are bodies brought to you by the rise of weight

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Speaker 2: loss drugs. Like Ozepic, Mountjaro, and we Guvy. These injectable

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Speaker 2: medications originally developed for managing type two diabetes, have gained

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Speaker 2: immense popularity in Tinseltown for their dramatic weight loss effects,

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Speaker 2: and as we approach major events like today's Emmys, their

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Speaker 2: out at this year's Oscars.

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Speaker 4: Everybody looks so great.

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Speaker 3: When I look around the room, I can't help but

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Speaker 2: Many stars are showing up to events looking noticeably slimmer,

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Speaker 2: leading to widespread speculation about who's using these drugs and

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Speaker 2: transformations do speak volumes. But this rapid weight loss isn't

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Speaker 2: without its challenges. Celebrity trainers are reporting a significant shift

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Speaker 5: I've had clients who can barely make it through a

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Speaker 5: can cause severe gastrointestinal issues. It's not uncommon for a

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Speaker 2: Many in the fitness industry are having to adapt their

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Speaker 2: the norm for stars preparing for red carpet appearances. The

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Speaker 2: impact of these drugs extends beyond the gym, too, and

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Speaker 2: onto the dinner plate. High end restaurants and catering services

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Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot more half eaten plates at awards

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Speaker 1: show after parties. Celebrities who used to indulge in our

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Speaker 2: This shift is not just affecting the bottom line for

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Speaker 2: in Hollywood. The traditional lavish spreads at post awards show

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Speaker 2: gift bags, which usually contain food amongst other shinier things.

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Speaker 2: Another change of these weight loss drugs is having on

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Speaker 2: plastic surgeons. These medical professionals long accustomed to request for

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Speaker 2: traditional procedures like facelifts and breast augmentations, and now facing

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Speaker 2: Doctor Jennifer Walden, a Board certified plastic surgeon, said that

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Speaker 2: she's seen a significant increase in patients coming in with

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Speaker 2: what is referred to as ozepic face, a gaunt aged

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Speaker 2: appearance due to rapid weight loss. They've lost weight, but

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Speaker 2: To address these issues, plastic surgeons are turning to less

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Speaker 2: invasive procedures like dermal fillers, skin tightening treatments, and even

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Speaker 2: fat transfers from other parts of the body. But it's

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Speaker 2: not just faces that are being reshaped. Body contouring procedures

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Speaker 6: It, we're doing more lifts arm lifts, thighlifts, breastlifts to

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Speaker 2: The shift in plastic surgery trends is reshaping the industry,

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Speaker 2: Traditional live poseuction, for instance, is seeing a decline as

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Speaker 2: more celebrities of for pharmaceutical weight loss methods. The rise

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Speaker 2: the entertainment industry. Some argue they're creating unrealistic body standards

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Speaker 2: and putting pressure on celebrities to maintain unnaturally low weights. Others, though,

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Speaker 2: see them as just another tool in the arsenal of

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Speaker 2: Hollywood's beauty and fitness regimen. Second is an LA based

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Speaker 2: journalist and writer whose article on this you can find

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Speaker 2: While it's an open secret that many Hollywood stars are

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Speaker 4: Well, because there's an image and thronor to be here.

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Speaker 4: But there's an image that Hollywood's projecting. I mean, we're

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Speaker 4: it's funny. There's been a lot of articles about teeth

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Speaker 4: you have to wonder if that's going to happen eventually

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Speaker 2: Do you think then, with this pressure to look superhuman,

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Speaker 2: that there's going to be more stars misusing these weight

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Speaker 2: loss drugs like we have seen literally just recently, Lottie Moss,

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Speaker 2: who's Kate Moss's little sister, she admitted that she was

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Speaker 2: taking more than what she was supposed to, even though

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Speaker 2: she is no way obese. I don't know what her

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Speaker 2: type two diabetes status is, but she said she was

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Speaker 2: an implication for these stars who are pushing and pushing

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Speaker 4: Well, it's already happening. And by the way, imagine what

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Speaker 4: it's like to be Kate Moss's relative and I have

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Speaker 4: to live up to that. But you know, I interviewed

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Speaker 4: trainers and doctors, and we know that people are already

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Speaker 4: taking more than than is prescribed because they believe that

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Speaker 4: taking more will work faster. And you know, I in

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Speaker 4: my article I mentioned who's going to be the next

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Speaker 4: Karen Carpenter. I don't know if your audience remembers her,

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Speaker 4: but she was a huge pop star who died of anorexia,

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Speaker 4: I think in the eighties, and she put that disease

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Speaker 4: is inevitable that somebody is going to misuse you know,

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Speaker 4: It takes about a year. Actually. First you've got to

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Speaker 4: You know, the person who's trying to rush it maybe

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Speaker 2: You've touched on something there with the people that you

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Speaker 2: Also caterers who are now having to change the amount

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Speaker 2: think have any understanding just how far reaching across Hollywood

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Speaker 4: Well, you have to compare it to cocaine, you know,

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Speaker 4: technological advances of all kinds always affect entertainment. And by

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Speaker 4: they're not doing it anymore. They're not eating, they're not indulging.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's you know, on these drugs in this town, not me,

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Speaker 2: Well, And this is something I didn't consider when you're

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Speaker 4: You think, yeah, I do. It's going to affect everything,

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Speaker 4: ozembic world already. We're not even predicting the future or

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Speaker 4: reporting on the present. Look, LA is not that big

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Speaker 2: So as you watch today's Primetime Emmys, keep in mind

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Speaker 2: Remember they're achieving their looks in ways that we can't

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Speaker 4: We known that there's a lot of lies told to

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Speaker 2: Care thanks to spending some time with us today. The

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Speaker 2: quickie is produced by me Claire Murphy and our senior

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Speaker 2: producer Taylor Strano, with audio production by Tom Lighting.