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<v Speaker 1>we need to talk about Benefer. We recorded this episode

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<v Speaker 1>knowing it was only a matter of time before they

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<v Speaker 1>announced their divorce. It was one week, yes, one week

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<v Speaker 1>for Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. Entering the canceled courtroom

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<v Speaker 1>together is just another collab to add to their long

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<v Speaker 1>list of projects. Before Benefit even existed, they starred in

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible movie called Giggly Yiggly Jilly Jilly. Skip forward

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years and they've rekindled their love, married and made

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<v Speaker 1>a few more films like This Is Me Now and

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<v Speaker 1>The Love Story Never Told. This is a moment from

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<v Speaker 1>our big episode on Benefit, the couple that simply created

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<v Speaker 1>too much content. This is Me Now. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to tell you what this is about. I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it this morning. I had it on in the background.

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<v Speaker 1>I had it on. Luna was just crawling around and

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to watch It is the first film

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<v Speaker 1>she's ever been exposed to and she stopped and said,

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<v Speaker 1>what is this? What the fuck is this? Make it end?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, honey, I don't know. It's a visual album,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has like a script source a musical, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's a wedding and too many famous people are in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And there is a line that she wrote because she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the script that says she's smart, she's beautiful. Why

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<v Speaker 1>does she always need to be with someone? Which I

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<v Speaker 1>respect Jen? Jen. I watched it, and in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>the celebrity cameos, I was like, this so interesting because

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<v Speaker 1>it's an insight into who can't say no exactly because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was asked. Everyone Lizzo said no, I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was a Hollywood person, would I have been

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<v Speaker 1>in it? Absolutely? Absolutely? You never Noah, was there the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of hurting Jen's feelings when she seems like a

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<v Speaker 1>sweet person. Okay, So there's This is Me Now and

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<v Speaker 1>then and there's also The Greatest Love Story Never Told,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a documentary about This is Me Now. So

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<v Speaker 1>in the Greatest Love Story Never Told, we learn that

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<v Speaker 1>she did ask a lot of celebrities and she got

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<v Speaker 1>really upset when they said no. And then they were

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<v Speaker 1>like oh, so and so says that they're at a wedding,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like call them, like she's just forcing them

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<v Speaker 1>to be in her movie. And then she's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't like the script, and then she gets

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<v Speaker 1>very sad. Well. In one scene, the casting director says

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<v Speaker 1>to her, we sent out all the offers last night

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody. We're waiting to hear back from a few people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then a voice off camera says, Taylor Swift is

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<v Speaker 1>a no, Jason Momoa is not available, Jennifer Coolidge not available,

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<v Speaker 1>Lizo not available. Then someone asks j Loo if she

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<v Speaker 1>wants Vanessa Hudgens by the way, and she responds for

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<v Speaker 1>what fabe for? Another person says she's not available. At

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<v Speaker 1>another point, Jennifer says it'd be good to get Bad

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<v Speaker 1>Bunny to do a little cameo as the bad kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's then told Ariana Grande is unavailable. She's in

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<v Speaker 1>London until September, and when they're talking about her famous

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<v Speaker 1>friends being busy, she says, I don't want to force

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<v Speaker 1>anybody to do this. Who doesn't go this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fun. Nobody wants to say no to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that, But when an actor doesn't like a

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<v Speaker 1>script or doesn't think it's good enough, or is worried

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<v Speaker 1>about it. That's what they'll say. I know that I've

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<v Speaker 1>done it, so don't push them. Don't push it a

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<v Speaker 1>mate when they say no to a script, don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in your film. Well, the other thing she

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<v Speaker 1>says because apparently Chloe Kardashian was supposed to make a

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<v Speaker 1>cameo and it didn't happen. And she says people are

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<v Speaker 1>scared to put themselves out there. I get it took

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<v Speaker 1>me a long time. I'm scared. I don't think that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I talk about Taylor Swift. She's put herself out

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<v Speaker 1>there plenty. Taylor Swift scared of the power of the

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<v Speaker 1>platform jaylo I would offer her. Honestly, It's gives me

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of respect, like knowing that somebody like Lizzo

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<v Speaker 1>got a call and then said, let me know what

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<v Speaker 1>I respect is that a call was made to listen. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I respect. Because just for some context, she

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<v Speaker 1>writes this album This is Me Now, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>about because this is Me Then was written when she

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<v Speaker 1>was first with Ben and she only writes albums when

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<v Speaker 1>she's with ben she didn't write an album in like

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years. Anyway, she writes, this is me Now. She's like, okay, yep,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to tell this story. I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 1>it like this movie visual album. And some distributor is like, yeah, yeah, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll give you some money. And then they pull it

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like actually I think they saw the script,

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<v Speaker 1>but they were like, this doesn't make us any money,

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<v Speaker 1>like Beyonce sing didn't make us money. This isn't a

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<v Speaker 1>good business. Move fast. And then she realizes that she's

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<v Speaker 1>got a fund it. But that's not the answer. I

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<v Speaker 1>would just pull. I would just pull. Sometimes we're told

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<v Speaker 1>no because the answer is no. So it's a three

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<v Speaker 1>part multimedia project. What is that twenty million dollars of

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<v Speaker 1>her own money? And the description says it examines and

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<v Speaker 1>plays with her life as a serial romantic. And she

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<v Speaker 1>says it's a twenty year project. But we can't say

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<v Speaker 1>it's twenty year project just because we don't do anything

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<v Speaker 1>else the twenty years. Yeah, well we relatable. Neil de

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<v Speaker 1>grass Tyson is a literal astrophysicist. He writes books about

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<v Speaker 1>traveling to space. He has a species of frog named

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<v Speaker 1>after him. Why is he in j Loo's movie? Could

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<v Speaker 1>have done so much science. We are so diecal Council,

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<v Speaker 1>but the stars hold all the power. When she did

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest love story never told, except all she does

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<v Speaker 1>is tell it. She wanted to tell the story in

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<v Speaker 1>all mediums immediately available to her. Yes. Right. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>she brings this book in that Ben gifted her, which

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<v Speaker 1>has all their emails from two thousand and two, and

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<v Speaker 1>they interview someone who's like, we were allowed to touch

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<v Speaker 1>the letters. I don't believe it, And it's like, is

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<v Speaker 1>Jlo making this film too? And did she make you

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<v Speaker 1>say that? And these people think they are touching a

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<v Speaker 1>diary of great hist roles signific Winston Churchhill and not

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<v Speaker 1>a printed out email from Ben. You've been showing all

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<v Speaker 1>the musicians all these letters that are and they were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we call you pen a flag. And she exclaims, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect anyone to get this, like why are you

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<v Speaker 1>making it? Because she wants people to believe in love.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, don't you see my favorite scene? She has

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<v Speaker 1>to leave the set and everyone's chasing her asking questions

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<v Speaker 1>because she's the boss, and she's just like, it's very

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<v Speaker 1>Jenny from the Black Life. Oh, I'm so overwhelmed, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's getting in a car that's like actually a track

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<v Speaker 1>it's and it's very like, oh my gosh, this project

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<v Speaker 1>is huge, and it's like you solely are responsible to this.

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<v Speaker 1>You can pull the plug at any point, any you

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<v Speaker 1>can go. This is too much. She's like, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to go, and I'm like, where Jen. This is your project,

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<v Speaker 1>your only project, except for the documentary you're making about

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<v Speaker 1>this project. But someone is filming that documentary now because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching the greatest love story Never told. Okay, then

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<v Speaker 1>there's another documentary I found called Ben and Jen Never

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<v Speaker 1>Say Never, Ah, which is confusing because Justin Bieber's documentary

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<v Speaker 1>is called Never Say Never. The timeline reads like a

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<v Speaker 1>soap opera, two decades filled with hot romance, heartbreak, multiple marriages,

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<v Speaker 1>broken engagements, and five children between them. The love story

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<v Speaker 1>of pop icon Jennifer Lopez and movie star Ben Affleck

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<v Speaker 1>began with a movie set meeting in two thousand and two,

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<v Speaker 1>which waved its way to the altar twenty years later,

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<v Speaker 1>Share the Secrets of Pink Diamonds, of Racy Yacht Video,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bubble Bath Proposal. So this is the third, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>these two people have been together for like a combined

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<v Speaker 1>eleven months over two engagements, and I have to watch

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<v Speaker 1>three movies about Amazon pri one album and one album,

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<v Speaker 1>two albums. It's hard because with the Greatest Love Story

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<v Speaker 1>I Never Told, there aren't any stakes because it's just

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<v Speaker 1>Jen's money and she's making a documentary. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>whether you lose it all or you don't, you're still

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Lopez and you're with Ben Affleck, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>not rooting for you. I just don't think you've got

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<v Speaker 1>much to lose, yeah, she says. At one point in

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<v Speaker 1>the documentary about the movie, she says, I have good intentions.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't want it to suck. And that's all

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<v Speaker 1>of us with creative pursuit. So well, but it does.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Ben says, that's just inexperience. You haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>this before, because he has made films and he's liked

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<v Speaker 1>his distiness, and oh nah, he was like, Nah, it's great, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really good. Divorce rumors. A few months after The

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<v Speaker 1>Greatest Love Story Never Told and This Is Me Now

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<v Speaker 1>was released, rumors emerged that Ben and Jen were separating,

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<v Speaker 1>which sucks. In terms of timing, I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a bit of a timeline about what has happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the last honestly, like four or five months. It's

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<v Speaker 1>May sixth, twenty twenty four. Jalo is at the met Gala.

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<v Speaker 1>No Ben insight to that. I say Ben had hate

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<v Speaker 1>the Metgala? Is it that unusual that he is not there?

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<v Speaker 1>May twelve, her and Ben do not spend Mother's Day together.

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<v Speaker 1>May fourteen, j Loo is house hunting without benh May fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>there are reports that Ben has moved out. May sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben pictured leaving his new residence where he's living alone.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's wearing his wedding ring. Okay. Jlo then likes

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<v Speaker 1>a post on Instagram Claire, I would like you to

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<v Speaker 1>just give listeners a gist of the post that Jennifer

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<v Speaker 1>Lopez liked on May the sixteenth from her account. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot build a healthy relationship with someone who lacks

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<v Speaker 1>integrity and emotional safety, doesn't respect your time, doesn't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to call, slash text back in a respectable

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<v Speaker 1>time I'm texting her, lacks effective communication skills. He's talking

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<v Speaker 1>to his friends, doesn't strippers who they are or what

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<v Speaker 1>they want Devil's advocate. Maybe she's talk about one of

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<v Speaker 1>our other husbands. No, she could be talking no current husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's funny you say that, though, because I think.

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<v Speaker 1>A few days later, they're photographed together at a school

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<v Speaker 1>play of one of the children wearing their wedding rings.

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<v Speaker 1>We go. Things get weirder. Two days after that, they're

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<v Speaker 1>spotted in a car together and then Ben's phone starts

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<v Speaker 1>ringing and he's green is visible to the paps. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you heard this? I've seen the picture and it reads

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Afflick. But she's right there to Gleitch in the matrix.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand. Oh, that is weird. That is weird. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw memes about it, but I didn't see the original.

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<v Speaker 1>It's j Jenna's right there. The rumors ramp up, with

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<v Speaker 1>sources telling people Ben hates all attention and it makes

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<v Speaker 1>him very uncomfortable. Jennifer has always had a different approach.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't appreciate the blaming Jennifer. No, not one beer.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew who she was. She has never changed. This

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<v Speaker 1>is me, then, this is me now have always been

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<v Speaker 1>later like she's clear. A journalist then asks jenn outright

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<v Speaker 1>if they're separated. Love that journalist, me too, take him

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<v Speaker 1>on for the team doing godswik j Loo says, you

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<v Speaker 1>know better than that. Then they're holding hands. She's hot broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Lopez announced that she would not be doing her

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<v Speaker 1>summer tour as planned. Pictures of Business Me now tour,

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<v Speaker 1>She's not doing it just that's like a huge part

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<v Speaker 1>of promoting her three part twenty millions of fundage project. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not doing it because she has to spend time

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<v Speaker 1>with her family on and she's sorry by the time

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<v Speaker 1>she tours that it's not even going to be her

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<v Speaker 1>now anymore. It's gonna be her band again. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>put their sixty million dollar house on the market. In June,

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<v Speaker 1>Ben is on Kevin Hart's podcast and basically says he

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<v Speaker 1>hates all the attention. I'm also a little bit shy.

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<v Speaker 1>I also like a lot of attention is why people

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<v Speaker 1>see me and they're like, let's do it always mad

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<v Speaker 1>because somebody has their cameras, thin get in my face

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<v Speaker 1>and you have rest feast. Do you know what I have?

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<v Speaker 1>Resting hard fist. Now, he says, paparazzi can take pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of him. He doesn't give a fuck if they're taking

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<v Speaker 1>pictures of Jen but not his kids. Then he takes

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<v Speaker 1>his wedding ring off and then the next day is back.

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<v Speaker 1>On July twenty, Lopez has a Bridgeton themed birthday party.

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<v Speaker 1>I having brackets fun. Ben doesn't come. That would slap.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing I will say about the Bridgeton themed

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<v Speaker 1>birthday party? Was it girls only? Ah? It feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a gal's event. Well, Ben wasn't there. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he'd like dressing up. But July twenty seven, Ben Affleck

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<v Speaker 1>goes rogue and purchases a five bedroom home in LA

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<v Speaker 1>for cheeky twenty mil. My question is, why do you

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<v Speaker 1>need a home if you already have a home with

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<v Speaker 1>j Low. To listen to that entire episode, just click

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<v Speaker 1>the link in our show notes. In that episode, we're

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<v Speaker 1>investigating the time that Ben had a simple thirst for

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<v Speaker 1>water and ended up in a strip club. Quenching said thirst.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a crime? Absolutely not? Did he take the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong turn? Did he mean to land in that stripper's lap?

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<v Speaker 1>Only we know for sure. Also, you may have seen

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<v Speaker 1>the sad Ben phenomenon, But can we punish him simply

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<v Speaker 1>because he doesn't smile a lot? In public. Yes, we

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<v Speaker 1>conducted a full risk assessment on their relationship. Listen to

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<v Speaker 1>that full episode via the link in our show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>We're recanceling three things every week over the summer break,

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<v Speaker 1>including celebrities, TV shows, celebrity couples, and press tours because

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<v Speaker 1>we need to keep the investigations running. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>videos from the podcast and evidence of celebrity crimes on

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<v Speaker 1>at cancel the podcast, Bye Bye,