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Speaker 1: Underscore thoughts. Maybe you have a lazy girl habit, something

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Speaker 1: you do every single day, a story from years ago.

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Speaker 1: this holiday break to do the thing you be meaning

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Speaker 1: to do, which is send us your lazy girl story. Today,

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Speaker 1: we need to talk about Benefer. We recorded this episode

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Speaker 1: knowing it was only a matter of time before they

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Speaker 1: announced their divorce. It was one week, yes, one week

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Speaker 1: for Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. Entering the canceled courtroom

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Speaker 1: together is just another collab to add to their long

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Speaker 1: list of projects. Before Benefit even existed, they starred in

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Speaker 1: a terrible movie called Giggly Yiggly Jilly Jilly. Skip forward

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Speaker 1: twenty years and they've rekindled their love, married and made

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Speaker 1: a few more films like This Is Me Now and

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Speaker 1: The Love Story Never Told. This is a moment from

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Speaker 1: our big episode on Benefit, the couple that simply created

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Speaker 1: too much content. This is Me Now. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how to tell you what this is about. I watched

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Speaker 1: it this morning. I had it on in the background.

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Speaker 1: I was like, honey, I don't know. It's a visual album,

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Speaker 1: but it has like a script source a musical, and

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Speaker 1: And there is a line that she wrote because she

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Speaker 1: wrote the script that says she's smart, she's beautiful. Why

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Speaker 1: respect Jen? Jen. I watched it, and in terms of

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Speaker 1: the celebrity cameos, I was like, this so interesting because

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Speaker 1: it's an insight into who can't say no exactly because

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Speaker 1: everyone was asked. Everyone Lizzo said no, I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: If I was a Hollywood person, would I have been

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Speaker 1: in it? Absolutely? Absolutely? You never Noah, was there the

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Speaker 1: idea of hurting Jen's feelings when she seems like a

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Speaker 1: then and there's also The Greatest Love Story Never Told,

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Speaker 1: like oh, so and so says that they're at a wedding,

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Speaker 1: a no, Jason Momoa is not available, Jennifer Coolidge not available,

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Speaker 1: Then I talk about Taylor Swift. She's put herself out

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Speaker 1: twenty years. Anyway, she writes, this is me Now. She's like, okay, yep,

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Speaker 1: it like this movie visual album. And some distributor is like, yeah, yeah, cool,

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Speaker 1: plays with her life as a serial romantic. And she

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Speaker 1: it's twenty year project just because we don't do anything

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Speaker 1: else the twenty years. Yeah, well we relatable. Neil de

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Speaker 1: have done so much science. We are so diecal Council,

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Speaker 1: all mediums immediately available to her. Yes. Right. At one point,

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Speaker 1: making it? Because she wants people to believe in love.

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Speaker 1: She says, don't you see my favorite scene? She has

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Speaker 1: because she's the boss, and she's just like, it's very

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Speaker 1: Jenny from the Black Life. Oh, I'm so overwhelmed, and

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Speaker 1: it's and it's very like, oh my gosh, this project

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Speaker 1: You can pull the plug at any point, any you

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Speaker 1: I'm watching the greatest love story Never told. Okay, then

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Speaker 1: there's another documentary I found called Ben and Jen Never

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Speaker 1: Say Never, Ah, which is confusing because Justin Bieber's documentary

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Speaker 1: is called Never Say Never. The timeline reads like a

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Speaker 1: soap opera, two decades filled with hot romance, heartbreak, multiple marriages,

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Speaker 1: broken engagements, and five children between them. The love story

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Speaker 1: of pop icon Jennifer Lopez and movie star Ben Affleck

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Speaker 1: Share the Secrets of Pink Diamonds, of Racy Yacht Video,

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Speaker 1: And then Ben says, that's just inexperience. You haven't done

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Speaker 1: No Ben insight to that. I say Ben had hate

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Speaker 1: May twelve, her and Ben do not spend Mother's Day together.

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Speaker 1: May fourteen, j Loo is house hunting without benh May fifteen,

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Speaker 1: Ben pictured leaving his new residence where he's living alone.

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Speaker 1: But he's wearing his wedding ring. Okay. Jlo then likes

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Speaker 1: a post on Instagram Claire, I would like you to

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Speaker 1: time I'm texting her, lacks effective communication skills. He's talking

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Speaker 1: Resting hard fist. Now, he says, paparazzi can take pictures

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Speaker 1: On July twenty, Lopez has a Bridgeton themed birthday party.

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Speaker 1: The only thing I will say about the Bridgeton themed

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Speaker 1: investigating the time that Ben had a simple thirst for

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Speaker 1: water and ended up in a strip club. Quenching said thirst.

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Speaker 1: Is that a crime? Absolutely not? Did he take the

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Speaker 1: Only we know for sure. Also, you may have seen

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Speaker 1: the sad Ben phenomenon, But can we punish him simply

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Speaker 1: because he doesn't smile a lot? In public. Yes, we

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Speaker 1: at cancel the podcast, Bye Bye,