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Speaker 2: More of my career than not. I was very comfortable

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Speaker 4: I never thought I'd make all this money and have

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Seas the Yay Podcast. Busy and happy

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Speaker 1: are not the same thing. We too rarely question what

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Speaker 1: makes the heart seeing. We work, then we rest, but

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Speaker 1: rarely we play and often don't realize there's more than

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Speaker 1: one way. So this is a platform to hear and

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Speaker 1: explore the stories of those who found lives. They adore

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Speaker 1: the good, bad and ugly. The best and worst day

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Speaker 1: will bear all the facets of seizing your yay. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer turned

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Speaker 1: funentrepreneurs whapped the suits and heels to co found matcha

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Speaker 1: Maiden and matcha Milkbar. CZA is a series of conversations

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Speaker 1: on finding a life you love and exploring the self doubt, challenge,

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Speaker 1: joy and fulfillment along the way. Every single week, I'm

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Speaker 1: amazed at how generous people are with their time and

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Speaker 1: agreeing to jump on the show. But every now and

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Speaker 1: then a guest says yes, who I reached out to

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Speaker 1: one thousand percent, expecting a polite no, if not total

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Speaker 1: radio silence. And this week we have two of those

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Speaker 1: who I admire so much, not only as separately incredibly

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Speaker 1: impressive individuals, but also as a wonderful couple who navigate careers, compromise,

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Speaker 1: and continual growth together in a way that made me

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Speaker 1: fall a little bit in love with them. As you'll

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Speaker 1: probably hear, yes, I know, I come on real hard

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Speaker 1: and real fast, and if you don't like how obsessed

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Speaker 1: I get with all of our guests, this might not

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Speaker 1: be the place for you. On the one hand, we

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Speaker 1: have an Adelaide boy, Joe, whose big dream was played

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Speaker 1: to find himself at the pinnacle of the game, playing

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Speaker 1: Tokyo earlier this year. On the other hand, we have Renee,

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Speaker 1: of accoladess too long to list here along the way

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Speaker 1: before she retired to focus on motherhood. You can see

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Speaker 1: why I couldn't believe they were happy to sit down

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Speaker 1: especially as it was their first interview together in two

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Speaker 1: years and Joe's first since the Olympics, and as usual,

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Speaker 1: I loved tracing through their ways to YA, but most

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the parts we don't hear about as much, with

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Speaker 1: everything from the real story of how they fell in love,

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Speaker 1: Their work with charities Culture City and for asd Kids

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Speaker 1: her son Jacob and his bestie Oliver, who faced their

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Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoy this delightful duo as much as

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Speaker 1: I did. Joe and Renee Ingles, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, excited to be here. I've listened to you for

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Speaker 1: Oh, it is such an honor. As I said before,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, long time. How you been great?

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Speaker 2: I know, honestly, we just hope that this is all

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Speaker 5: Home to Australia and over two and a half years now.

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Speaker 2: And had you told us that two and a half

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Speaker 2: And Australia is such a huge part of who we are,

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Speaker 2: so we're missing normal life like a lot of people are. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. It's funny though, you know, I often try and

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Speaker 1: Imagine doing it without the Internet, like before FaceTime and

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Speaker 1: before Zoom, what would you have done like smoke signaled

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it has been a great leveler also. And

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Speaker 1: on that note, Renae and how you'll know from listening

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Speaker 1: little leveler, a bit of a nice breaker to ask

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Speaker 1: easily assume that you've always had this level of purpose,

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Speaker 1: You can dish the dirt on the snoring.

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Speaker 4: Or I'm a snorer.

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Speaker 3: I can happily definitely if I sleep on my back,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more of a couch night. If I come

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Speaker 5: A few beers, it's a couch.

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Speaker 4: She can't get me with that one.

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Speaker 3: I'm well aware and I'm very comfortable within myself with that.

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Speaker 3: She would have belt me because I actually enjoy sleeping

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Speaker 1: And the sacrifices you make.

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Speaker 2: even just you know, sort of think about Joe being

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Speaker 5: Of that than any of the sparkle.

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Speaker 4: If you can see the mess line this camera right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually and obviously even more so now during

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Speaker 2: the pandemic, but even beforehand it's actually quite a lonely existence,

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Speaker 2: and that's for both of us. So, you know, when

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Speaker 2: Joe's on the road, he gets to stay in nice

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Speaker 2: kids and I are doing here back home. And then

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Speaker 2: the reverse, so I'm home with the kids down, getting

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Speaker 5: You know exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I think at the end of the day, what

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Speaker 5: Just that our kids are our world.

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Speaker 2: So you know, you can have all the accolades or

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Speaker 5: So, you know, just like any average parents, I guess

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Speaker 2: And from Joe's perspective, you know, you look at his

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Speaker 3: Although some days I come home and all the Miller's

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Speaker 2: That're so cute.

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Speaker 3: They call mister Renee or mister Joe, but sometimes they

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Speaker 4: With it, and they're like, and then Miller will come

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Speaker 4: home and be like Joe Ingles, Joe Ingles with pretty

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Speaker 4: funny games, because yeah, I could have a.

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Speaker 3: Career high or have the worst game in the world,

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Speaker 3: and I obviously get to come home and regardless of that,

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Speaker 4: Like, we were very regular people.

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Speaker 5: We are very very boring, very poor.

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Speaker 3: So when I got asked to go on the Housewives

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Speaker 1: It, stop edge. Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: My teammates wives did as well, and obviously she was

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Speaker 3: of us would have wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can already see. It's like not your vibe.

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Speaker 3: We would laugh about it all the time because it

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Speaker 4: Would be like, oh, what are you guys going to

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Speaker 5: But other than like you're going to get too many

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Speaker 1: Stuff out of the Tlama moments.

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Speaker 1: It's what you do, it's you know what it is

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Speaker 3: I was very lucky as a kid, just me and

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Speaker 3: many sports as we wanted. Mom dad obviously driving us

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Speaker 3: to buy. I played bastpell, cricket and AFL were kind

445
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 3: of a three that I was kind of, I.

446
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 4: Guess focused on more than anything else.

447
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,679
Speaker 3: And my sister wasn't massive into sports, played a bit

448
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: of like casual netball and stuff, but she played the

449
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: piano and was way better at.

450
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 4: School than what I was.

451
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 3: Went to a private school and kind of went down

452
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: that path. I went to a public school. Basketball was

453
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,120
Speaker 3: actually a subject amazing.

454
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I knew very early on I wanted to

455
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: play basketball. I wanted to play I grew up in Adelaide.

456
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 4: I wanted to play for the thirty six is. The

457
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 4: adelade thirty six Is was the be all and end all.

458
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: Brettma, who was the captain and a friend now was

459
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,360
Speaker 3: their best player, and I wanted to be Brett mar

460
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 3: like that.

461
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 4: Was my bream.

462
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: I wanted to then obviously play for Australia. Watching as

463
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: you get older and can kind of realize what the

464
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 3: Olympics are and stuff like that.

465
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, very very kind of normal childhood.

466
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 3: I guess parents got divorced as we were pretty young,

467
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 3: which was I don't think at the time I even

468
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 3: worried about it. I was just like, oh cool, Like

469
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 3: now I can get twenty dollars off of my man

470
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 3: twenty dollars off that. But we ended up living with

471
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: my dad and my dad worked away a lot of

472
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 3: the time, so it was really me and my sister

473
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 3: as housemates. I guess you call it as like fourteen

474
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: fifteen year olds. And he would come back on weekends,

475
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 3: and I remember like getting my sister to write me

476
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 3: notes to like miss school and stuff because I would

477
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Speaker 3: count as my guardian.

478
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 5: Got amazing, and then the other thing like it's a

479
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 5: bit of a funny.

480
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 3: So I remember when I think it's like year eight

481
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 3: or nine and whatever, you're picking your subjects to work out,

482
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 3: like what you want to be do you want to

483
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 3: be a doctor? Or like you need to do this

484
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 3: or and missus O'Reilly, who was my teacher at the time.

485
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: I still red hair, short little glasses, and I was

486
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 3: sitting I.

487
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 1: Hope she's listening right now.

488
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: She would have told this a couple of times before.

489
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 3: But I was sitting next to my mom as I'm

490
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: going through and she said, well, what do you want

491
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: to be? And I said I want to play basket.

492
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 3: And obviously, at this age i'm forty, I feel like

493
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm very well aware, like that's what I want to do.

494
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 3: It's not like I hope every kid gets a great education,

495
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: but I hated school.

496
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 4: I didn't really I went to the school pillar if

497
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 4: bast we didn't go to make friends. I didn't go

498
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 4: to get it. I went to play basket.

499
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 5: Complete opposite idea. Meetings where I had to pick my

500
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 5: subjects were stressful.

501
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 4: I had to get it right and I said that

502
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 4: and she said, oh haha, like you've got to pick

503
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 4: something a bit more realistic.

504
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 3: And all I remember happening was my mom like under

505
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: the table, like grabbing my leg and being like, because

506
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 3: I have a bit of a potty mouth, and we'll

507
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 3: say what's on my mind, and was ready to, like

508
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 3: as a fourteen or whatever, I would like yell at

509
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 3: her and swear at her. I was just like in

510
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 3: the end of it was like whatever, Like I don't

511
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 3: really care what you think. I'm basically not going to

512
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: go to school anyway. I'm going to go figure this

513
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 3: basketball thing out. And I just kept, I guess, pushing

514
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: and pushing to get to that part and left home

515
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: when I was sixteen and went to the Airs, which Renee.

516
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 4: We actually would have met at the Airs if she

517
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 4: turned it down and I went, which we wouldn't probably

518
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: be today.

519
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: Was meant to be that way. Yes, we'll get to

520
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: that story too. We'll get to the meeting story anyway.

521
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, like from I guess like fourteen fifteen, we lived

522
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 3: by ourselves. At sixteen, I moved to camera, So I've

523
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 3: kind of been I guess a bit more like I

524
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: wouldn't say mature, but I probably grew up a little

525
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 3: bit quicker and just yeah, I was just obviously so

526
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: locked in on this basketball thing, basketball, cricket, AFL.

527
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: I think I was decent at all.

528
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't say but similar to every day Like,

529
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 3: I chose basketball purely because of the friends I was

530
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 3: playing with. I didn't know if I was any better

531
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 3: at it at the time or not, but I had

532
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 3: some really cool friends that I wanted to play with,

533
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: and I didn't really want to play outside in the

534
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: rain and the AFL.

535
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:17,360
Speaker 6: And that as well all the sunn that's your reasons.

536
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: And then there was like eight a m in the

537
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 3: mud of the AFL and I was like, you just

538
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: go playing this heated gym, and I obviously had a

539
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: good friends so I was, yeah, that's how it kind

540
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 3: of started, and obviously went to the AS and went

541
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: from there.

542
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Speaker 1: Wow, gosh, it's so fascinating for myself. When you're someone

543
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a really clear vision from the time

544
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: you're a kid about what you want to do, you

545
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: kind of try and keep all the doors open. But

546
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: I also love hearing from people who didn't keep any

547
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: other doors open because you're like, I'm not even going

548
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: to indulge your backup plan because this is what I

549
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: want to do, and you throw everything at it, and

550
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: you guys are the ones that make it because you

551
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: just throw everything at Lucky otherwise would.

552
00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: Always screwed because no education was pretty determined to get

553
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: it done.

554
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, well, what I'd love to ask just a

555
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: couple of questions on this part of your careers, because again,

556
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: I know we can find out a lot, I mean,

557
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: everything about both of your stellar careers that are still

558
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: continuing elsewhere. But one of the things that I think

559
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,679
Speaker 1: is broadly applicable to everyone who has a goal they

560
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: want to achieve that's massive, like the NBA or like

561
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: playing for your country, But in all the chapters before

562
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: you get there, you can't just wake up and play NBA.

563
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: You have to go through or you can't just wake

564
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: up and play for the Phoenix. You have to go

565
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: through all the different leagues and all the different steps,

566
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: and you have to get knocked back a lot of times.

567
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: And there's so much along the way that feels like

568
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: two steps forward, one step back, or the reverse. Like

569
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: you know, it's reading that you and Patty Mills were

570
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: at the as and driving around in his Mazda six

571
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: to six and like you guys have ended up. You

572
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 1: know where you are now, but when you aren't there yet,

573
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: it can be really easy to lose motivation towards like

574
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 1: how far away it still seems from where you are

575
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: When you're not where you want to be yet, how

576
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: do you stay focused on that goal? How do you

577
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: like just trust that you will get there eventually, And

578
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: it's worth keeping putting one foot in front of the other,

579
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: particularly now for everyone where everything is moving so much slower.

580
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: It's so frustrating when you know you can get there,

581
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: but you've got to put in the hard yards first.

582
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: I guess for me it was even I remember I

583
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 3: played for a club called the No Longer City Tigers,

584
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: which was in Adelaide and around the corner from our house,

585
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: and not that it was like I don't think at

586
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: the time, I thought it was a setback, but like

587
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 3: trying out for the Division one team and not making it,

588
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: could be put in the second team and trying out

589
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 3: for the state teams, which they mentioned about being captain

590
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: all about like getting cut from those teams. And I

591
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: only ever made it as a top age. I never

592
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: made it the first year. I always made it the

593
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,399
Speaker 3: second year. Is when I was the older guy, older

594
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 3: kid at the time. I don't think, Oh, me and

595
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: you'll figure this out, but we're very, very different, will

596
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: not make a team or whatever and figure out like

597
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: I wasn't strong enough, or I need to be quicker,

598
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: or whatever the reasoning that she probably thought, or the

599
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: coach she told her. I'm a lot more laid back

600
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 3: with it with like I'll figure it out. I'll try

601
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 3: and figure it out myself. I'm not a big talker

602
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: as Renee or test too. I kind of keep a

603
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: lot to myself and just kind of figure it out

604
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: along the way. And yeah, I guess the easier part

605
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: of the NBA was that I never thought I would

606
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: make the NBA so early on. I wanted to play

607
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 3: for Adelaide thirty six and I wanted to play for Australia,

608
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 3: and I was lucky enough going to the as playing

609
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 3: in the NBA, which didn't end up being Adelaide for

610
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: multiple reasons, but obviously, like you said before, kind of

611
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: everything happens for a reason, And very glad with the decision,

612
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 3: not only because I met Renee.

613
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: But.

614
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: Even the basketball there and the people I was around

615
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 3: with Shane Hill, Jacob Holm, some of these guys, Brian

616
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 3: Gorge and who twelve years later I went to bronze

617
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: medal with being around some of those guys, and then

618
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: going in the NBA Draft when you think you're ready

619
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: quote unquote ready or your managers think you're ready, probably

620
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: more than anything, and not getting drafted. And I remember

621
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 3: sitting at a friend's house in California watching the draft

622
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: and my agent was comming like, yeah, there's a good

623
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 3: chance of this. Sixty guys get picked, and it's like

624
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 3: fifteen a gone, thirty have gone, forty five have gone.

625
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 4: I'm like, shit, I'm not getting picked. Like you kind

626
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: of hit this.

627
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: Realization but I was very lucky that one I had

628
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: an English passport so I could go play in Europe.

629
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: But I just, I guess, I just try to kind

630
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 3: of enjoy and embrace the journey as it was, like I, yeah,

631
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: I'm in Division two and I'm fourteen, Like I still

632
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: had good friends, I still enjoyed it.

633
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: I played basketball because I enjoyed it.

634
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: I never thought I'd make all this money and have

635
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: this house and like whatever it.

636
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: Is, the more materialistic stuff.

637
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: And I still think more or less it's still the

638
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: same way today, Like, yeah, all that stuff's great, But

639
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: I play because I love my teammates, I love the

640
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: kids and Renee, I'm going to watch like it's there's

641
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 3: a lot more to it than just like a salary

642
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: and all that stuff. So went to Europe and was

643
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: pretty happy there. I think, different country, like different experience.

644
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 4: We got to live in.

645
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: Barcelona for three years, we lived in Grenada my first

646
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: year for a little bit, we lived in Israel and

647
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: Tel Aviv, and yeah, just kind of kept, I guess,

648
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: kept plugging away, slowly knowing that in my mind I

649
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: thought I was getting better and better each year. I

650
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 3: don't know if I was not at the time, and

651
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: the only clear kind of thing I did know was

652
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 3: by the last year. It was my fifth year in

653
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 3: Europe in Tel Aviv, I was like, I am not

654
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: gone back to Europe. I'd had enough in Europe. I

655
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: didn't want to live there.

656
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 4: She was still playing, so we were doing long distance

657
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: and all that. I was like, I'm either making the

658
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: NBA or I'm going to.

659
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: Go play for Melbourne or Adelaide like whoever at the

660
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 3: time in Australia. So I came over to it camp

661
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: with the Clippers. I was like, yeah, this is a chance.

662
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: This is like the door. I'm twenty seven. The door

663
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: was like this much open and I'm going to I'm

664
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Speaker 3: going to make it. And the it was almost like

665
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Speaker 3: a perfect scenario, if you can think of an NBA

666
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 3: perfect scenario. There was one spot left on the team

667
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: and they only brought in two guys, me and this

668
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: other guy, and so it's like every day like hey buddy,

669
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: but like screw and.

670
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: I put everything into that.

671
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: I was there like first there, last one to leave.

672
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 3: I trying to do everything I could to make it

673
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: and got calm on the last day. As the story

674
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: has been told, but like Renee was on the plane

675
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: flight over, and I probably thought I was going to

676
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 3: make the team before she landed, and then landed and

677
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: was like, hey, I Scott cart in LA.

678
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: For a little while. We had a few days in

679
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Speaker 4: La to.

680
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 3: I guess, try and figure out what we were going

681
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 3: to do or what I was going to do career wise.

682
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 3: And then we were sitting at lunch at some like

683
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: Asian restaurant or something and got a call from my

684
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: manager and I was like quickly like and he's like

685
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 3: Utah Jazz one year, you got to fly out like

686
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: now kind of thing. So we didn't even like finish

687
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: our meals, paid the bill, ran up, packed up our bags,

688
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: got to the airport, googled where Utah was because we

689
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: had literally not like we don't grow up in Australia, like, hey,

690
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: let's go to Utah. Yeah.

691
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: I was going to say, had you even been there before?

692
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 5: No, it's like New York.

693
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: We had suitcases full of cloths for La and in

694
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Speaker 2: the snow here in.

695
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: Utah and landed here and then it was again back

696
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 3: to that like this is my last chance.

697
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: I'm going to literally put everything in.

698
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: It was on a non guarantee my first year and

699
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: obviously ended up making the team my first year, signed a.

700
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: Two year deal after that and signed a four year deal,

701
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: and then we thought we'd.

702
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 5: Been here for a year, and.

703
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Speaker 3: You guys, it's pretty long winded answer, but I think

704
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: for me it was just like I don't really get

705
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: too high or too low, Like I'm pretty low.

706
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: I would say that about Joe without putting in on you,

707
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 2: is that what you see is what you get with Joe,

708
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: and whether it's a win or a loss or anything

709
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: in between, or a setback.

710
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever even heard.

711
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: Really say that he's had a setback, because it's just like,

712
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: go on with the next day and then what's next,

713
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: what training's next, what team's next, what sort of next

714
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 2: on the calendar.

715
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: It's never he doesn't really dwell on anything as such.

716
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: He loves revenge. So someone cuts him to.

717
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 2: The team or it says he can't do something, then

718
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, even if it's a couple of years later,

719
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: he's like.

720
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: Yes, like the redhead teacher about.

721
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: As as he's doing it. Yeah, but he really doesn't

722
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 2: dwell on anything. I think that's one of our biggest differences.

723
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: But one of the biggest level is for me while

724
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: I was still playing, is that Joe was so laid

725
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: back and didn't care too much about anything.

726
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: I mean that in the right way.

727
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: It was a really nice way to play though, like

728
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: there was sort of more relaxed attitude around it all.

729
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: And especially once you add kids to it too. It's

730
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 3: like the game's great, and it's again given as a

731
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: lot of this in life and whatever, but it's like

732
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 3: I still going to get up and take mid of

733
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: the school at seven forty five, and we're going to

734
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 3: do this and that, and obviously everything with Jacob and

735
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: even when I was playing in Europe, like if I

736
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: don't make the NBA, like I'm still making good money

737
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: and it's good. I'm still getting to explore the world,

738
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 3: like it'll figure itself out, Like I'm not going to

739
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 3: what's the point of me sitting up at night stressing

740
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 3: over like something when it's almost sits out of my

741
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: control to a certain extent. It's the same with the

742
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 3: Boom as like fourth four fourth, do you like give up? Well,

743
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: it's like I'll just have another crack, Like what are

744
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: we supposed to do? Like we're supposed to just ringe

745
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: in the corner and like give up, figure it out,

746
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 3: go back again. And we just kept changing little things

747
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: and obviously got the outcome, but two very different correct

748
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 3: in terms of that with how prepared and no stone

749
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: unturned and whatever, and they would.

750
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 4: Do and I'd be like, I'm going to grab a

751
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: bit and figure out the games.

752
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: I just got to win a medal tomorrow.

753
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm kind of.

754
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: Like what Joe said is I was more the athlete

755
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 2: that would critique everything, every performance, good bad, why that happened,

756
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 2: why that didn't happen, if I didn't make a team.

757
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: Then I would get feedback straight away, and I would

758
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: really analyze that feedback, probably too much, rather than just

759
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 2: taking it for what it was.

760
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: Wasn't strong enough? She was coming back right a strong

761
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 4: person in the world.

762
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's just a bodybuilder now, you know.

763
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: Even in you know, I can think back to primary

764
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: school sports and then state teams and whatever. It was

765
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 2: that I was always willing to outwork anyone. So whilst

766
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: there was obviously raw talent and stuff there and I

767
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: understood the game, I was always willing to outwork or

768
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: work the hardest, which I think at times in my

769
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: career was also a detriment to me and what I

770
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: could have achieved as well, certainly lost a lot of

771
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: sleep over the time, worrying about things and.

772
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 5: Having anxiety over things that I.

773
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: Couldn't control, whether that be other people in the team,

774
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: or you know, playing my performance in my mind before

775
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 2: it's even happened.

776
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: But you know, hindsight's a wonderful thing.

777
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: But I definitely think that it was my work ethic

778
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: over all that probably you know, saw me standing on

779
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: the podium and crying tears because I was able to

780
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: win those medals. So I think when I think about

781
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: the chapters of my life, and you know, we're just

782
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: saying this to a couple of friends the other night

783
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: at dinner, is I've always would talk about periods of

784
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: my life or teams that I've made, teams that I

785
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: haven't made, setbacks, high as loads. Now I just say

786
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: the chapters of my life honestly were before kids and

787
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: after kids, honestly, because I'm not a different person.

788
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 5: I've got all of the same.

789
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: Values and wants and needs and loves and passions and

790
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 2: all of those things. But the renee before kids as

791
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: opposed to the renee after kids in both a career sense,

792
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: A wife all of those things, a friend, all of

793
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: those things. Of course, I've had to adapt and change,

794
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: and I think had I learned some of the lessons

795
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: that I had from being mum and had put them

796
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: into my career earlier on, and well, you know, I

797
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: think my career probably could have been better, or a.

798
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: Team more the Zella's time and a million medals.

799
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: And yeah, but you know, you just.

800
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 5: Get perspective, I think, And I think I played better

801
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 5: netball after having kids, with you know, less.

802
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: Work, but more quality training, more perspective, less stress, less

803
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: anxiety over any of those things that I couldn't control

804
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 2: purely one because I was too tired. I played after

805
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: having kids and having the kids on the sidelines, and

806
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 2: there was just I think different. It's a totally different

807
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: life off the court as opposter on the court before.

808
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 5: And after kids.

809
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 2: So I think I'm still obviously living the chapter since

810
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: having the kids.

811
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 5: But yeah, I just see everything that happened before as

812
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 5: that chapter of my life and then this is the

813
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Speaker 5: next one now that I'm on.

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839
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Speaker 2: Well, and it's a pandemic has done the same thing

845
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Speaker 2: to all of us. You know, It's given us all

846
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Speaker 2: so much perspective and maybe given everyone a little bit

847
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Speaker 2: more direction and understanding of what we can actually be

848
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849
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: the small social interactions that have been taken away from us,

850
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: or you know, before the pandemic complaining that we had

851
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Speaker 2: to go to work. It's a privilege. People can't go

852
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Speaker 2: to work, you know, it is. It's a privilege. So

853
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: I think kids do that to you regardless. And then again, yeah,

854
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: you put the pandemic on top of that. Wow, there's

855
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of reflection.

856
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: I'm the same, much more like Una in terms of

857
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: like overthinking, of analyzing, worrying about everything. But the quote

858
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: that really helps me is the five by five rule.

859
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: It's if it's not going to matter in five years,

860
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Speaker 1: don't give it more than five minutes. And there's not

861
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 1: a single time where that hasn't worked out really well,

862
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: Like things just don't matter.

863
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: But do you mean that I could actually like get

864
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: to a point of justifying in my mind.

865
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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, because the hypothetical situation totally. Like my astrologer

866
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: thinks that the cards might say that it's going to

867
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Speaker 1: matter in five years because Taurus is in Mercury and

868
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Speaker 1: Venus and I can't explain.

869
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's where John and I find out balance,

870
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Speaker 2: I think for a complete.

871
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 5: Opposite ends of the spectrum and all of that sort.

872
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 2: Of stuff, which has been really nice throughout each other's

873
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: careers is maybe meeting in the middle a little bit

874
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 2: there so keeps it well.

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Speaker 1: It's obvious that you've become a perfect match for each

876
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: other the love story, even though the universe conspired to

877
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: keep you apart the first time at the aas you

878
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: have since found each other, and I would love you

879
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: to quickly rehash the love story before we move on

880
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: to your beautiful kids and what you've been doing. But

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Speaker 1: one more question, on your careers quickly before we move

882
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: into that is just having reached the levels that you

883
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: have both reached that not many people have and get

884
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: the privilege to experience and know about. There's a lot

885
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: that we see and it's always very glamorous looking on

886
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: the outside, and even from courtside it looked very glamorous

887
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: from where I was standing. What are like a couple

888
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: of things, or even just one thing from behind the

889
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: scenes of playing at the Olympics or playing at the

890
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: NBA or whatever about your sports that people who play

891
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: know but we would find really surprising they can still

892
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: be glamorous, or they can just be like random rituals

893
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: or like I don't even know, blisters that we wouldn't

894
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: know about, like things that happen on a routine BA

895
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: Like I was speaking to Jess Fox after her Olympics

896
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, we all use condoms to fix

897
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: our boats all the time. It's like totally the normal.

898
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've read that somewhere.

899
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone made a big deal about it, like it

900
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: was the first time, and she's like, no, we do it.

901
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: It's a sport wide thing all the time.

902
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 4: Well, fix our boss.

903
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: I think people just don't really, especially in the NBA,

904
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't look so glamorous because you guys see

905
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: on you know, social media and on the TV and

906
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: media outlets these guys walking in, you know, all decked

907
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: out beautiful clothes and fashion sense and all of that.

908
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 2: But that's five minutes of that full entire game night,

909
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: like a game night for us.

910
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were literally just discussing this the other day.

911
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 3: To shoot around in the morning, Yeah, for a couple

912
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: of hours, like job one of the kids at school,

913
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: go to shoot around for a few hours, literally, come back,

914
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: have some to eat. I'll go lay down like nine

915
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: out of ten days as the odd day that I

916
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: can't or Rene's or something on that. Like I'm not

917
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: that superstitious, so like I need to sleep from two

918
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: to three otherwise I won't play it. Like another thing

919
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 3: that'll we're very dear, Like I can just cruise through

920
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 3: like a whole day and whatever, but.

921
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, go lay down for an hour. Then I'll

922
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 4: go pick up one of.

923
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 3: The kids, come home for half an hour and play

924
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: do whatever entertaining for a little bit, and then I'm

925
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 3: taking off like three four hours before the game, getting

926
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: home at twelve one o'clock in the morning, and then

927
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: obviously back up for school at seven thirty.

928
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: The next day again or seven or whatever. So there

929
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 4: is a lot Like even today, we're in the off

930
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 4: season now.

931
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: I left Miller of school seven fifty five, went to

932
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: the arena, and I went straight to pick up Jacob

933
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 3: at tooth. I left at two thirty to get there

934
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 3: by three, so I hadn't been home all day. This

935
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: is offseason, so I'm just doing some of my own

936
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 3: stuff and some team stuff. But yeah, I think it's

937
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 3: the NBA, especially you see the money side of it,

938
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: and yeah, we stay in nice hotels and drive nice.

939
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: Cars and whatever.

940
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: Granted, like is the salary exactly like too much or not?

941
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 3: Like it's a lot of money. I get that, but

942
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 3: the guys work hard for their money. Like regardless, if

943
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 3: we can debate all.

944
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 5: Day, whether it's sacrifice a lot.

945
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: Sacrifice a lot, we were No, I'm saving that for

946
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: one of your other later questions.

947
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 5: I was going to say something, but oh, oh, there.

948
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: There is a lot of I mean even just the

949
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: fact we haven't gone home into a half years, Like

950
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 3: we can't go Jack's never met we got ten months old,

951
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: He's never met any family. Rene, his brother's got one

952
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: year old twin girls. Rene's brother and best friend, which

953
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: is another story. But we've never met them like two yells,

954
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: so there's a lot of things. Our twins from like

955
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 3: three to five are so different from when our parents

956
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: last saw them.

957
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: I know another thing that this drives me crazy. And

958
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: you as the I feel like you'd be a planner

959
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: just like I am. Overthink everything whilst you have the

960
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 2: whole NBA season and you can see that in front

961
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 2: of us. D don't get their schedules for the next

962
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: day until like nine or ten o'clock at night for

963
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: the next day. So for Renee, who like plans the

964
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: next five years, it's it's been an adjustment.

965
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: It's hard.

966
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes me anxious.

967
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: My whole career off getting like my schedule is a

968
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 3: text message, like more or less.

969
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 7: The night before, maybe a bit more structured, but literally

970
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 7: like my life is a text message, Like I wait

971
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 7: for someone to tell us what time practicing tell.

972
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 5: Rene, And I'm often in bed by the time you

973
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 5: get the text message.

974
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: So then if I wake well I shouldn't say if

975
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: when I wake up with one of the.

976
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 5: Three kids during the night, I'll check it like to see, oh, what's.

977
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: Jokes forward schedule because it's just like I don't have

978
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 3: to explain anything. And yeah, but that's just like the

979
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 3: way life. It's I don't even like talking to you

980
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: now about it, Like, yeah, it's annoying as hell. Like

981
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: we just got the schedule actually pretty early, we got

982
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: about like just before we got on the call with you. Yeah,

983
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: and but it's like, yeah, that's just how it's just.

984
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: More like you can't sort of it's hard to schedule

985
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: things like with the kids.

986
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 5: Or doctors anything, Joe trying to be there to see

987
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 5: the kids or whatever.

988
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: It's just I mean, that's nitpicking. Seriously, that's the hardest

989
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: thing we're dealing with. But it's yeah, but.

990
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: It's interesting, like you wouldn't think that you'd think you

991
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: guys would have weeks ahead of Yeah.

992
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 3: It's got one side of it. It's extremely glamorous and

993
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: fancy and like whatever word you want to use. But

994
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 3: there's another side of it that's a grind and like

995
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: your body years sleep, Like we get home from road

996
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: trips at three in the morning, and I'll be up

997
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: with the kids as early as I can physically, like

998
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 3: peel my eyes open, but people just think like, oh,

999
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: you're in a nice hotel, Like it doesn't matter where

1000
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: you sleep.

1001
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 4: Three in our sleep is real.

1002
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: Sleep, yeah for sure. And kids are kids a lot.

1003
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 4: More of a grind. But yeah, Also on the flip side,

1004
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 4: like obviously.

1005
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: Very lucky and I love it, like I kind of

1006
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: love the lifestyle of being a basketball Yeah.

1007
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: Well and truly season your ya, which is absolutely amazing,

1008
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: But you have also had to work incredibly hard to

1009
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: win over your wife. I heard that you had to

1010
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: beg for a coffee date.

1011
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 5: But quite a while finally someone has the real story.

1012
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 5: We've obviously spoken to someone who knows the real story.

1013
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: I don't know you got that from with us.

1014
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: Tell the truth so you cannot confirm or deny.

1015
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,320
Speaker 4: The truth, the real, real truth, which I've like honestly

1016
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 4: never told the real story because I just don't know

1017
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 4: why every time.

1018
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: Because it's funny and I'll probably still get something wrong,

1019
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: so Redee will probably, but you.

1020
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Might not have a wife at the end of this,

1021
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 1: so be careful.

1022
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 5: The real truth before. But this is the real truth.

1023
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 5: So I actually I'm sweating as you say.

1024
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: No, So, like I moved to Melbourne to play with

1025
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: the Dragon. She was playing for the Bigs, and so

1026
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 3: we're both in Melbourne and anyone that's listening that's our

1027
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 3: age or give will take a few years. Well know,

1028
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: at the time, the club called c Q was like

1029
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: the hottest play.

1030
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 4: So I used to see Renee.

1031
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: We like basketball and that ball is a very small world,

1032
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: like we all kind of knew each other or through

1033
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: the as or like whatever it was. That was a

1034
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 3: very it's almost like a little small community within itself.

1035
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 3: And so I would always see Renee at the place,

1036
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: the bar, whatever, and I probably saw a few other

1037
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: times and other things, but it was like she's I guess,

1038
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 3: but Rene had Renee had a boyfriend at the time,

1039
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 3: and I was just being a young idiot at the time.

1040
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: And eventually, back in those days, saw her Facebook post

1041
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: of like Renee's no single, I was, you know, people

1042
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 3: changed their status.

1043
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 1: It was like a full announcements to the public.

1044
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 3: No one thought it was like an official relationship until

1045
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: you put it on your bloody Facebook page or whatever

1046
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: it was. I did that, and I don't know if

1047
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: we'd even like really spoken every or not, but added

1048
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 3: her on Facebook and started talking her on Facebook, which is.

1049
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 5: So DMS, and then that's totably better than what kids

1050
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 5: are doing these days.

1051
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: It is definitely better than our kids are doing these days.

1052
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: Started obviously just like very regular conversation because we both

1053
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 3: kind of she just won the championship.

1054
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 4: I just won with the Dragons.

1055
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 3: Is why we both wanted the championships right before we met,

1056
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 3: which is probably why we saw each other partying way

1057
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: too much that week or two. And then it ended

1058
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: up asking, I think, whatever's what numbers, So we were

1059
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: talking a bit more normally than Facebook, and then yeah,

1060
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 3: I would just keep I kept asking her like let's

1061
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: go to lunch or dinner or breakfast or like whatever,

1062
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 3: I don't care what meal it is of the day.

1063
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: And she would always say yes.

1064
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: But then I would like wake up in the morning

1065
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 3: or an hour before and she'd be like, oh sorry,

1066
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 3: like vixi's gotta be doing a clinic.

1067
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 4: I can't come to them.

1068
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I woke up and feel a bit sick

1069
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 3: like and I was like, look, this girl's crazy like you.

1070
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: No one They were like going out for dinner this

1071
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: one night, and I called and said, I'm so sorry

1072
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: this has come up.

1073
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 5: I can't come. But the real thing.

1074
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: I actually don't even know if I ever told you

1075
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: is I'd actually gone and got a spray TN and

1076
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 2: I was driving home my cairl. I was like, I

1077
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: clearly can't go out for dinner when I'm just out

1078
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: of spray to hand, so obviously you're life and I'm

1079
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 2: so sorry this has come up with my family, and yeah, sorry,

1080
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: this is amazing.

1081
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: And then one day, from her point of view, her mom,

1082
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 3: she was obviously telling her mom that this like crackhead

1083
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 3: from Adelaide was annoying her and trying to get her

1084
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 3: to go out for lunch, dinner, whatever we were trying

1085
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 3: to do, and her mom ended up saying like, why

1086
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: don't you just go one day and then if you

1087
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: hate him, you hate him, you never have to see

1088
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 3: him again. If he's cool, then like whatever, you figure.

1089
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: It out, So good advice mom.

1090
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: Again, like planning, I think it was lunch lunch, and obviously,

1091
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 3: like from her point of view, which I know now,

1092
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 3: she was like fully in for this one. From my

1093
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: point of view, getting canceled like six billions, I was like,

1094
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 3: screw this, I'm going out tonight on the like Saturday

1095
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,720
Speaker 3: night or whatever. So I went out with my buddies

1096
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: and got home at like the crack of dawn because

1097
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to wake up at some

1098
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 3: point unil were canceled text message anyway, so like whatever.

1099
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: And then I woke up like thirty minutes before we

1100
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 3: were going to do it, and it was like, yeah,

1101
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 3: i'll see you soon. She was picking me up because

1102
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 3: of whatever reason.

1103
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you're hungover, physically drift sedious, fuck well done,

1104
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: well done.

1105
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 3: She had a clinic or whatever, so I was like fuck,

1106
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: like shower, shower, put like spray too much clone because

1107
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 3: I felt like alcohol.

1108
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 4: And then she picked me up in her Vixen's car

1109
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 4: because she.

1110
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 5: Covered.

1111
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: I came in sweatpants because I was like I really

1112
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: don't care about.

1113
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 4: And I was in jeans and a jacket and that.

1114
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 2: Is so I would never go out and meet someone

1115
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: in pants anyway.

1116
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: Well, he just asked you out to breakfast, lunch or

1117
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: dinner or whatever, Like if he asked you like that,

1118
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: i'd probably wear track. Friends.

1119
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 3: Then we ended up going to the place on athen

1120
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 3: Street or whatever it was, and Securlda had lunch.

1121
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 4: I hat like a typical, like I don't want to

1122
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 4: eat in front of the boy, and I was like

1123
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 4: hung over his house. I was like she was.

1124
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: Going to the toilet, stealing a designer, and because I

1125
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 3: was so hungry, then she dropped me back. It was

1126
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: all like good or whatever, and then I just we

1127
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 3: were texting a bit, and then we ended up hanging

1128
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 3: out again.

1129
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 4: That night. I went to her house and.

1130
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: We watched the movie Same Day, Stop It Two.

1131
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: Dates, ordered pizzas and just hung out whatever, and then

1132
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: like every day since then, we I think we saw

1133
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: each other every day after that until I had.

1134
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 4: Already signed a deal in Spain.

1135
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 5: So I was like I was leaving a month later.

1136
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 5: Months so we were like, oh my god.

1137
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,800
Speaker 3: I kind of just hung out every day like doing

1138
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 3: whatever because we were both still training and doing whatever

1139
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: we had to do. And then it was like kind

1140
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 3: of like right, well, if you want to come over,

1141
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 3: you can come over.

1142
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 4: We'll see, like see what happens. I'm got, like I've signed.

1143
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 4: I kin'd of get out of it. Not that I

1144
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 4: would have got out of it.

1145
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 2: It was just like super like we literally just had fun.

1146
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: Knowing I was leaving in a month, so it was

1147
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: just like whatever, clearly go anywhere.

1148
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 5: But it's been good and.

1149
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, shout your flight over to Spain

1150
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 4: if you want.

1151
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: You know, I just come. I heard that you knew

1152
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 1: right away that you wanted to marry her.

1153
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: So we had the first lunch or whatever it was,

1154
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: and we were talking throughout the day and I think

1155
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,439
Speaker 3: it was in those text messages whatever I told her.

1156
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 5: I can fill the gap since the details yit.

1157
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like filling And went on our first

1158
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: day eating sweatpants track pants, which.

1159
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: That is just like what that's a move, ren A.

1160
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: That is a power.

1161
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: Anyone who knew at the time I would never do

1162
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 2: that yet literally.

1163
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 5: Do I know that?

1164
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: Like that was for him, just like this is my

1165
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,760
Speaker 2: dream girl. She I don't even have to wear jeans

1166
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: for this girl. Like in my sweats, I've got like

1167
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: one pair of jeans I do not wear.

1168
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 3: I'm like sweats twenty for seven.

1169
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 4: There's not one fancy bit of clothing in.

1170
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 5: My Anyway, we hung out.

1171
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: I was meant to go onto another clinic that afternoon,

1172
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: but we were like enjoying each other company that so

1173
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: I texted Caitlin Pwaits and I was like, thank you, yes, Katie,

1174
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: we're here today because of you, And she covered the

1175
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 2: coaching clinic for me. I got changed in the car

1176
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 2: to go to lunch in a movie, which again I'm

1177
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: never on like a.

1178
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 5: First date, would I go and get changed in the car.

1179
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 8: But there you go.

1180
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 5: This is apparently who I was that day. Anyway, we

1181
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 5: hung out. It was really good.

1182
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 2: I dropped him back home and wasn't even turned out

1183
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 2: of his street and I got a text message saying

1184
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: we're going to get married.

1185
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 5: I'm going to marry Yeah.

1186
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's the I might still been drug.

1187
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can.

1188
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: Far too much colone, because if I actually sit here

1189
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: and really think about it, I can still smell that.

1190
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 5: You can smell it, you.

1191
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 4: Know when someone's drank it and the breath smells like alcohol. Self.

1192
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I finally got this girl to come and I

1193
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 3: haven't been canceled on now going to smell like an idiot,

1194
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 3: and she's going to think I've been out or which

1195
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: I had been.

1196
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: But which you absolutely had.

1197
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 2: Anyway, it's been what twelve thirteen years now, and it's yeah,

1198
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: here we are, and you can still smell the Actually,

1199
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: the first time he's ever admitted to anyone with me

1200
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: being around, that he actually did the chasing.

1201
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: So I recorded this, so you've got it forever.

1202
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 4: She did come there.

1203
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 3: And then she came to Grenada and me and then

1204
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: did After that, I was like, I guess we have

1205
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 3: to We spoke on every day.

1206
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 5: Remember when he used to Scott for face.

1207
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 4: To change our Facebook status.

1208
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: Now, I guess we should make it a complicated Facebook official.

1209
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 4: It's complicated.

1210
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: It was complicated. It's with the remae and it's complicated.

1211
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: Remember you could have a person and it's complicated with

1212
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: the person.

1213
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: Literally, it's been twelve to thirteen years now, and I

1214
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: think eight or nine of those have been long distance,

1215
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 2: so oh wow, be tough, hard, But here we are

1216
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: three kids later, living.

1217
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: In three kids, three kids and also two incredible careers.

1218
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys have juggled more. I mean, marriage

1219
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 1: and children in themselves are enormous endeavors to do with

1220
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: anyone and still be able to have a chat with them,

1221
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: sit next to each other on the couch and tell

1222
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: your love story with a smile on your face. But

1223
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, managing long distance and two careers as well

1224
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: that have competing needs, and then three kids and then,

1225
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 1: oh gosh, you guys are just well.

1226
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: I think a part of that as well as like

1227
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 3: a little bit of why it works.

1228
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: Well it's like yeah, I agree, Yeah, I've got to whatever, go.

1229
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 3: To Spain, but I'll figure it out. Like I've got

1230
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 3: to be in Australia, Okay, we'll figure it out. Like

1231
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 3: I've seened it. I've got to go with the Boomers, right,

1232
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: will come to Sydney.

1233
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 4: Or wherever, like like.

1234
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: It's just it is what it is, Like I was

1235
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: never going to go tell Renee like, no, you can't

1236
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 3: play this year. You've got to come to Spain and

1237
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 3: sit in the crowd and watch me play and give

1238
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: up your career, like it's just not an option, Like

1239
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: I'm going to the Olympics, all right, We'll figure out

1240
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 3: how to like can you get there right?

1241
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 4: If you can?

1242
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 3: It's figure it out, Like I remember one All Star break,

1243
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: I flew to England Liverpool to watch like two games

1244
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 3: with the Australian Diamonds because I was like games, you

1245
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 3: just figure it, Like what am I supposed to do?

1246
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 4: Like I'm not going to not like if I can,

1247
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 4: so like you just figure it out.

1248
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: Like so it's honestly think too, Like we always laugh

1249
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: about it, like people say, oh, what works in your

1250
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: marriage or what doesn't or whatever. I think we always

1251
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 2: joke about it, but at the end of the day,

1252
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 2: we feel like we've always been in the honey room

1253
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: period because even with Joe's career now and we're living here, No,

1254
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 2: I mean that in that we've always had so much

1255
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: time a part at the time that we're together, it's

1256
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: like we have to enjoy it. It's quality time. And

1257
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: that's still the same now even though we're living in

1258
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 2: the same state and I'm not traveling and not playing

1259
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: and all of those things, but Joe's still away so

1260
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 2: much like he's just got back from the Olympics in

1261
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: the way for eight weeks last year, was in the

1262
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: bubble for nine weeks. In the NBA season, he's traveling

1263
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: in and out of way for ten days here, twelve

1264
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: days there, four nights here, three days there, and then

1265
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: when he is home there's game nights and all that.

1266
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 5: Sort of stuff.

1267
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: So I think it's just like treasuring that quality time

1268
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 2: that we've had and we've always had to do it. So,

1269
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: you know, we met and then a month later we

1270
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 2: left for nine months, so that sounds normal.

1271
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 5: We don't know anything.

1272
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 4: With us, so when I still work.

1273
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: Then yeah, I was going to say, oh my god,

1274
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: we still.

1275
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: Like each other.

1276
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: Then one time after we got shut down and we

1277
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 3: had a couple months I mean yeah, where we were

1278
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 3: the first to like put COVID on the map a

1279
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 3: little bit, so we were pretty strict with our lockdown,

1280
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 3: so we like I was at home every single day,

1281
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 3: which probably for everyone, all of us at times.

1282
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 5: I'm worried, said.

1283
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 4: When we were talking about that too.

1284
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 3: I had been away for seven weeks with the Olympics,

1285
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 3: and I came home and obviously, like Renee, had a

1286
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: list of things she wanted to do, understandably because she'd

1287
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 3: been stuck with three kids for seven weeks, and so

1288
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: I was like, you do what you need to do.

1289
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: And like the first three or four days, I didn't

1290
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 3: leave the house post Olympics.

1291
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 4: I was just here with the kids.

1292
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 5: And this is me like taking an hour.

1293
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's if she wasn't day.

1294
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: Have coffee with your friend, like go and do do

1295
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 3: what like you deserve to do. Like day three or four,

1296
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 3: I was like Rene came back and I was like,

1297
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how you stay at the house like

1298
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 3: all day, because this.

1299
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: Is I can't hard.

1300
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 3: I could do it if I really had to, but

1301
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 3: like it's now, I know what you would like, have

1302
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: an hour in the gym with not the kids, like

1303
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 3: hanging off your back for fucking twenty minutes.

1304
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 2: I think what I'll get off to Joe's retirement is

1305
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: that I'm one hundred percent going into the workforce. After that,

1306
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: we're just going to completely spot rolls again and then

1307
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: it's my turn. Yeah, yeah, the next chapter.

1308
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: That is a big thing, Renee, that you you you

1309
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: guys have had twins, Miller and Jacob and then Jack

1310
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: was born last year, and that you left the game

1311
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 1: in your prime. It wasn't you know, like you'd we

1312
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: were tapering already, or you were already planning to take

1313
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: a back seat, or you were ready to retire. You know,

1314
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: it was. It was a big It's just such an

1315
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,720
Speaker 1: exclusive pathway. Yeah, yeah, how has that been for you?

1316
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: As I mean even now, sometimes when you talk about

1317
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 1: your career, you say I was or it was in

1318
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: the past tenses if you might not do it again.

1319
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: So how has that been?

1320
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 5: From my perspective?

1321
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: In hindsight, the time that I retired was probably absolutely

1322
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: perfect because then COVID hit the next season. There's absolutely

1323
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: no way we could have juggled our lives from different

1324
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 2: countries and managing COVID and netball, moved into a bubble

1325
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: into Brisbane and all of that sort of stuff. So

1326
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: in hindsight, it was actually the perfect time. I think

1327
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 2: it was literally last week. It was two years ago

1328
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 2: that I officially retired and it was my last game

1329
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: and haven't even been in a netball.

1330
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 5: Stadium since because we haven't been back in Australia since.

1331
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: I've watched all.

1332
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 2: The games, might watch a lot from over here and

1333
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 2: replays and all that sort of thing. I think, at

1334
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 2: the end of the day, I'll never regret the decision

1335
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 2: that I made because I made it for Joe and

1336
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: the kids. But I think if we hadn't got Jacob's

1337
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 2: diagnosis of autism, that I would have kept playing, which

1338
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 2: is hard because I felt like, yeah, I was at

1339
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: it in a time in my life that where we

1340
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: were with the kids and where I was in terms

1341
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 2: of where I was at my career, that I had

1342
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,919
Speaker 2: great netball to play or could have kept getting better

1343
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: and learning, and I loved that. And I was at

1344
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: a team the Vixen's won it the next year, which

1345
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: is always, of course hard. To watch because we got

1346
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: knocked out in the prelim final the year before.

1347
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 5: But I just there's no regret, is there hurt? No,

1348
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 5: not really.

1349
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 2: However, there's just that burning desire inside me to do

1350
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: something else, and I don't know what that is yet.

1351
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm running a marathon, but that is definitely not a

1352
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 2: bucket list.

1353
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 5: Item for me. I'm doing it for our.

1354
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: Charity, Culture City, and I'm doing it for Jacob and

1355
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: one of our best friends' kids, all of who are

1356
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: both on the spectrum. So I'm doing it for them.

1357
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 2: So that's giving me a little bit. I think that's

1358
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: a band aid at the moment, but for me, should

1359
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: know what's next. And I wish that I could still

1360
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 2: be playing in the netball arena. I do definitely we

1361
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,439
Speaker 2: miss it. I don't miss the meetings. I don't miss

1362
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: the politics. So don't miss ice sparks and fitness testing

1363
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 2: and skin folds and.

1364
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 5: I hate cool.

1365
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't miss.

1366
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 5: Any of that.

1367
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 2: But you know, I certainly miss running out there on

1368
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 2: match day with some of my best friends and playing the.

1369
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 5: Game that I love.

1370
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 2: And I have to admit every time I sit in

1371
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 2: the arena and one of my absolute favorite things to

1372
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 2: do is to watch Joe play.

1373
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 5: But that you know, when you hear the music playing

1374
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 5: and the.

1375
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: Crowd loud and Joe doing so well, that it's hard.

1376
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: It's hard not to go to that space of oh

1377
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 2: what if that was me? What if I could still

1378
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: do that? But yeah, I don't think I can ever

1379
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: look back and regret that decision, because you know that

1380
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: our kids are absolutely thriving. And yet given that COVID

1381
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: had hit and we've all been through the last couple

1382
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 2: of years that we had been through, that I would

1383
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: have had to retire due to COVID because I wouldn't

1384
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 2: even been able to get back to Australia. So I'm

1385
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: glad that that was sort of all taken out of

1386
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: my hands, but that was a long window way of saying, I.

1387
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 5: Definitely miss it.

1388
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 2: The door is closed on playing professional netball, but I'm

1389
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,080
Speaker 2: hoping that something else can open.

1390
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 5: I just don't know what that is.

1391
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 4: But even when we got we got pregnant, when they got.

1392
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: Pregnant, what are you telling me?

1393
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 5: Science is pretty amazing these days?

1394
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: You, Tay is like really progressive?

1395
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 4: Wow, the like I.

1396
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: Remember her retirement press conference with Adelaide and sitting there

1397
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 3: and having photos and like, oh, yeah, like this is

1398
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: the end, and she probably knew it too, but we

1399
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: both kind of knew like this is the end because

1400
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 3: it almost like had to be at that time, But

1401
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 3: it wasn't going to be the end.

1402
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 4: Like Renet wasn't ready to stop playing.

1403
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: It was just there was like a bump in the

1404
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 3: road because we were going to have these kids, and

1405
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 3: that's what was going to happen at that time.

1406
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 5: I had the kids.

1407
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 4: I had the kids.

1408
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 5: Months old.

1409
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 3: But I knew that she was going to go back eventually,

1410
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: whether it be the year after however long after, she

1411
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 3: was going to figure it out and get back.

1412
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 4: And I guess glad that she got an opportunity to at.

1413
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 3: Least play, and because same thing, like I loved sitting

1414
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 3: there with the twins and watching her play, like it

1415
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 3: was pretty cool to be on the flip side of it,

1416
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 3: because I probably didn't think I would get to do that,

1417
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,160
Speaker 3: especially with kids, because of obviously the female being a

1418
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: pretty important part of that. To be able to sit there,

1419
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 3: and I remember sitting courtside for a couple of games

1420
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 3: and the twins were sitting on my knees and like

1421
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 3: waving to Renee, and I get to do that in

1422
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: my games, like Miller and Jacob will wave and screwing

1423
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 3: my Name, and.

1424
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 4: They weren't that far but like to wave and all that.

1425
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 3: So it was it was cool to be able to

1426
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,120
Speaker 3: do that and get back and see her play with

1427
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: the kids or post kids. But yeah, I wouldn't be

1428
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 3: surprised if she ended up playing professionally.

1429
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: Again, like unless the two months are washed up, Renee three.

1430
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: Kids, you're running a marathon. But I think it's really

1431
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: it's a lovely reminder that you can miss something without

1432
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: regretting that you're not doing it anymore. And also that

1433
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: beautiful new beginnings are often disguised as painful endings that

1434
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: have to happen at a particular time. But that doesn't

1435
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,320
Speaker 1: mean I think what's so exciting about chatting to you

1436
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 1: now is that you're in that agitated phase where you're

1437
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: agitating for a new joy and you don't know what

1438
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: that is yet, and people forget that, like people like

1439
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: you have that too. You know, it's not just normal

1440
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 1: people who aren't living at this high level career. Everyone

1441
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,280
Speaker 1: at the brink of a new chapter has that discomfort,

1442
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,919
Speaker 1: and that's why the discomfort. It sucks because it's not uncomfortable,

1443
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: but that's what forces the next chapter. And so I'm

1444
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: so excited to see what you do next. But in

1445
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: the meantime, let's talk about the marathons. Yeah, tell us

1446
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: about that, and also the charity, and I mean what

1447
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: you guys are doing with Culture City and you have

1448
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 1: four ASD kids as well. I think everyone has heard

1449
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 1: of autism, everyone has heard of the spectrum. Not a

1450
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: lot of us understand what to look out for or

1451
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 1: how it's diagnosed, how to treat it if it's treatable,

1452
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: and also what you guys are doing with the Foundations

1453
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: and how we can support you.

1454
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1455
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 2: Well, autism I think has changed our lives forever in

1456
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 2: the best way possible, which I know some people listen

1457
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: to and go, what like, your child's got autism, But

1458
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 2: it's something that we definitely celebrate. We knew what autism

1459
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 2: was before Jacob got diagnosed, but we had absolutely no

1460
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 2: idea what living with autism actually meant or felt like,

1461
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: or what that meant for the family moving forward. And

1462
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: in a nutshell, autism can look so many different ways

1463
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: in so many different individuals. In fact, you won't ever

1464
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,439
Speaker 2: meet to autistic individuals that present in the same way,

1465
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: and for us, it's quite an invisible disability we like

1466
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 2: to call it, and it can affect those that are

1467
01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: on the spectrum, can be affected in their social interactions,

1468
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:57,919
Speaker 2: their communication, and also their behaviors. With Jacob, we see

1469
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 2: him in all different three of those is, in various

1470
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 2: different ways across the last two and a half years

1471
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 2: since he was diagnosed.

1472
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 5: It's really challenging, it's hard.

1473
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 2: But it has brought so much joy to our family

1474
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: and I think probably one of the things that has

1475
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 2: grounded us more than anything in our entire lives or

1476
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 2: careers or any setback. I think it just brought us

1477
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 2: back to life a little bit to celebrate the small moments,

1478
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: not just with Jacob, but with Miller and now with

1479
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:30,200
Speaker 2: Jack and with each other, and Joe's career and achievements,

1480
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 2: that the small things sometimes matter more than the bigger

1481
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 2: things in terms of what we do. I think our

1482
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: purpose now is to give back. We have a wonderful

1483
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: opportunity to give back to a community.

1484
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 5: We never knew how we were going.

1485
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 2: To do that or what that was going to look like,

1486
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: and I think this has really just given us our purpose,

1487
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 2: and we do it for Jacob and we want a better,

1488
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 2: more understanding, inclusive future and world for him.

1489
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 5: So why wouldn't we use.

1490
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 2: Our platforms to go out there and talk about it

1491
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 2: and celebrate him as an individual, and of course the

1492
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: other two kids just as much as well. We are

1493
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: on the board of four ASD Kids in Australia and

1494
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 2: Culture City over here in America. I got one hundred

1495
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 2: percent bullied into doing a marathon for Culture City. They

1496
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: called it every heartstring I have, which wasn't too hard,

1497
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 2: and said you could do it for Jacob, and I

1498
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 2: decided my closest friend over here, my best friend, my lifeline,

1499
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 2: probably my second husband, probably see her more than.

1500
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 1: What I see.

1501
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: They have a little boy, Oliver, who is four months

1502
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,480
Speaker 2: younger than Jacob, who has also recently just been diagnosed

1503
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 2: as on the spectrum. And I decided, you know, I've

1504
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: never wanted to run a marathon. Anyone who knows Netbourne

1505
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 2: knows that it's.

1506
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 5: A speed and power sport. It's not from distance running.

1507
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,520
Speaker 5: So whilst all of these people who write the loveliest

1508
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 5: supportive messages to me on Instagram that I can do

1509
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 5: it because I was an athlete well, very different athletes,

1510
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 5: not in marathon.

1511
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:05,000
Speaker 2: It's not one of those things that I've ever looked

1512
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 2: at and gone, oh my gosh, I want to run

1513
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 2: for black five hours straight. Like that doesn't inspire me,

1514
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 2: but it's not on my bucket list. It because you

1515
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: know what, some days for Jacob and for Oliver are

1516
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: incredibly difficult and challenging, and there's so much across their

1517
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 2: day that they are told that they cannot do or

1518
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 2: that they maybe find more challenging to do. And you

1519
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: know what, we make them do it. We teach them

1520
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 2: how to do it. So that's why I'm doing the marathon.

1521
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 2: I'm facing my fear of running for four or five

1522
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: hours and while I do it, hopefully raising a lot

1523
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: of money for Culture City.

1524
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 5: So that's where my inspiration comes from.

1525
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 2: That's where what at the moment is getting me through

1526
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: those really long Sunday runs that and sees the eight podcasts.

1527
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm doing it.

1528
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 2: It's really hard, and I know, sound like a wingy

1529
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,879
Speaker 2: girl saying that, but I'm finding out really.

1530
01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: It's five hours not my gem.

1531
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 5: You know.

1532
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 2: If I'm going to leave Joe and the kids for

1533
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,440
Speaker 2: a couple of hours to run on a Sunday.

1534
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 5: You know, there are better things that I would love

1535
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 5: to go out for breakfast and coffee with my girlfriends.

1536
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: Run to a massage parlor and run back as.

1537
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 5: My time away from the kids.

1538
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, we're getting there, and I'm ticking

1539
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: the boxes and now it's about six weeks away, so.

1540
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 5: I'm really excited for it to be over.

1541
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 2: And I'm at about sixty percent of my goal of

1542
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 2: raising about fifteen thousand dollars, so fingers crossed it can

1543
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 2: get there.

1544
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,719
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, And that is so extraordinary. We're training

1545
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: for the Melbourne Marathon, but I'm doing the half, which

1546
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: as a former non runner recently converted to actually I loved.

1547
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: I've loved and it's been amazing, but twenty one still

1548
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: feels pretty long, so I can't imagine having to do

1549
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: double that. That's just extraordinary. We only just been there.

1550
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 1: It was meant to be in October, but we just

1551
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: found out because of the lockdowns, it's been pushed out

1552
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: in December, and I'm like, I can't keep up this

1553
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: level of training and fitness until then. What do you

1554
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: mean I've trained to peak on a particular day. But

1555
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:13,719
Speaker 1: I also love that The reason for you is because

1556
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 1: you know the boys, they do have to do a

1557
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: lot of things that are really uncomfortable for them, So

1558
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 1: you're doing something that's really uncomfortable for you.

1559
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 2: It's just really Yeah, it's more that you know, I've

1560
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: got to walk the walk, not just talk the talk.

1561
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm doing it.

1562
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: And you know, how can we support you in that?

1563
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: How can anyone just donate or can they jump online?

1564
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 4: Oh?

1565
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 2: Yes, I have a fundraising page which is on the

1566
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 2: Culture City website under their fundraising and donation section. So

1567
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 2: I'll be able to give you the link and you

1568
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: could put it in your show notes.

1569
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:45,719
Speaker 5: That would be amazing.

1570
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 2: But even if people could shout me a coffee, that

1571
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 2: much is the donation. I know it's a really scary

1572
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 2: world at the moment out there, and people are having

1573
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 2: a lot of financial hardship, certainly with COVID and all

1574
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: of those things. Understand how tough it is for everyone,

1575
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: But shout me a coffee with the donation, and I

1576
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 2: would really really appreciate it because I'm doing it for

1577
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: a greater pause and hopefully for a more inclusive world.

1578
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: Oh that's so beautiful. I'm sure there will be so

1579
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: many people in the neighborhood who can shout at least

1580
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 1: a coffee in your journey. You guys are doing really

1581
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,479
Speaker 1: really wonderful things. Thank you and raising awareness of something

1582
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, like people might have heard of it.

1583
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 1: I know about the diagnosis, but not understand what it's

1584
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: like to live with or how you can help. You know,

1585
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: the boys live their best lives. I've had such a

1586
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: great time discussing the story with you guys that, as

1587
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: I always do, I've run us well over the hour,

1588
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: so I might just skip past n Ata, even though

1589
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 1: we have discussed quite a lot of the challenges along

1590
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 1: the way. Anyway, and move into the last section, which

1591
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: is your Playta. And as we spoke about before, you know,

1592
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 1: we touched on the idea that it's really important to

1593
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: get some distance from what you're doing and not just

1594
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: go one hundred and twenty percent all the time on

1595
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 1: your passion, because you're a better player, a better worker

1596
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 1: when you get perspective and you know, get some distance

1597
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 1: from things and find some joy. But that can be

1598
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: really hard when you your profession is your passion, which

1599
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: in both of your cases it has been, but maybe

1600
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: that makes it even more important to find a hobby

1601
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: or something to do outside of your working life. So

1602
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: for you, guys, what makes you really joyful? What do

1603
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: you do just for fun and what's your playta I.

1604
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 2: Feel like and here could completely contradict how grounded he

1605
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: was at the start and what he does.

1606
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 5: You love bass cars and cool starts, everything surrounded person.

1607
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 3: I've got some weird hobbies, not weird hobbies, but I'm

1608
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 3: obsessed with like real estate, so.

1609
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 4: I invest in real estate for my family.

1610
01:14:56,800 --> 01:14:58,599
Speaker 5: There is long term, yeah.

1611
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 3: And we're like we're building a house at the moment.

1612
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 3: So like things like that keepers very very busy. I

1613
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 3: do have an old school car kind of obsession as well,

1614
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,160
Speaker 3: but I don't have that nice But I think for

1615
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 3: both of us too, is it's a lot of it.

1616
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 3: Like Renee got her little mates friends here that she'll

1617
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: go and catch up with, and I'm like, but it's like,

1618
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,360
Speaker 3: I think the most fun and switch off and get

1619
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 3: away from it all is just kind of like either

1620
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 3: hanging here with the kids or going across the roads

1621
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 3: to the park, or we took them to San Diego

1622
01:15:31,800 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 3: for a week after the Olympics just to get away

1623
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 3: as a family and like being.

1624
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 4: In the pool with the kids all day and stuff

1625
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 4: like that. Like it's I think.

1626
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 3: Going back to earlier when you're talking about like our

1627
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 3: schedule and Renee being stuck at the house.

1628
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 4: Kind of thing and trying to get out for a

1629
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 4: marathon run.

1630
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 3: And on away and all that, when there's probably not

1631
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 3: that often that we're all five of us, like the kids,

1632
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 3: you're at school and Jack snapping and there's so much

1633
01:15:56,320 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 3: going on. Five of us aren't actually like always really

1634
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 3: together at the same time, awake and happy, and like.

1635
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 6: It's to get so when we can actually all be

1636
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 6: together and be outside or go to the park or

1637
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 6: go make a little quick trip somewhere to spend some

1638
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:17,679
Speaker 6: time together and give the kids memories.

1639
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 4: And Jacob before San Diego kept telling you like, I

1640
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 4: want to go to the beach. I want to go

1641
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 4: to the beach, and we're like, the.

1642
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 5: Beach is Australia.

1643
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 4: He think, yeah, could do that. So we made up

1644
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:33,679
Speaker 4: a beach in San Diego and he loved it. Yeah.

1645
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:34,919
Speaker 4: I think they're the things.

1646
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 3: That my own personal hobbies are great, but I kind

1647
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 3: of try and do them on the side or on

1648
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 3: the road or at night whenever kids are in bed.

1649
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: But I think when we can be all five of

1650
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 3: us together is the most fun. Playing laser tag the

1651
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:51,560
Speaker 3: other day around the house.

1652
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: Laser takes so much fun. Also, I've been looking at

1653
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: some of the yanchors. Does Utah is beautiful? There are

1654
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: so many amazing places you can go hiking. I have

1655
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 1: no I have no picture of you, tarry my brain.

1656
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 4: You get like the best of both worlds.

1657
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 3: So in the summer it's like the desert hot like forties,

1658
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 3: boiling hot, dry, like miserable, and then in the inter

1659
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 3: it's like the complete opposite. It's like three feet of snow.

1660
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,560
Speaker 5: White Christmas.

1661
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yeah, miserable.

1662
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 1: So I see why you chose a sport that you

1663
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: can play inside a temperature controlled court. Yeah, yeah, got it.

1664
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 3: But it is beautiful, Like the National parks are great.

1665
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 3: We live kind of just on the basin now and

1666
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,520
Speaker 3: so you get a bit of a view downtown and

1667
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 3: it's actually a nicest city than we've been in eight

1668
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 3: years now. Like we remember first getting here and there

1669
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 3: was like four restaurants and they were like the typical

1670
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 3: cheesecake factory and olive garden all that, and now like

1671
01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: any food you want you can get a really good.

1672
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 4: Meal, any kind of cuisine or whatever.

1673
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 2: Like it's we actually say that Salt Lake City to

1674
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: us is very much like the Adelaide of Australia, like

1675
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: a big country town, pills just not far away. You

1676
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 2: can get up for a ski and all that sort

1677
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 2: of thing. Very close knit community, you know, you know,

1678
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 2: you run into Bob who knows that, Jenny who knows

1679
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 2: like everyone knows everyone. It's a really nice small town.

1680
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 4: Close knit than we thought. Kids going to school because

1681
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 4: now they're like, we all know everyone everyone. We're just

1682
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,400
Speaker 4: a random Australian.

1683
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that's lovely. Just to finish up, second last question,

1684
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: three interesting things about each of you that don't normally

1685
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: come up interviews.

1686
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 2: And special you know this is.

1687
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:57,959
Speaker 1: Very special.

1688
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 4: Firsts.

1689
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: Something I thought about this, something that absolutely no one

1690
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,559
Speaker 2: knows about me is I have really really like ringlet hair,

1691
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: like really pearls. Yeah, no one ever looked social media

1692
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: and no one would ever believe that.

1693
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 1: But how long do you have to straightening or is

1694
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: it chemically straight?

1695
01:19:21,479 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's so thin that I just like wash

1696
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 2: it and then blow driyal straighten it and I only

1697
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 2: really wash my hair.

1698
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 5: Maybe once or twice a week.

1699
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, gal, I hear we're in lockdown.

1700
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 2: Still, especially pandemic, there's no one to impress, so no, yep,

1701
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:36,879
Speaker 2: So there's there's one thing.

1702
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,480
Speaker 1: That's fascinating.

1703
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 4: A second one.

1704
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 3: My first break down was so he kind of like

1705
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,480
Speaker 3: contradicts a little bit, like I'm saying I'm not superstitious

1706
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: and all that I have, Like weird, it's not superstitious because.

1707
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 4: It's not.

1708
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 5: I think it is superstitious, but he's not.

1709
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: It happens to go completely around game day, so I

1710
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: feel like that makes it a superstition.

1711
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,719
Speaker 3: Now it's just like with my so like the perfect

1712
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 3: example is my beard right now, which is disgusting. But

1713
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 3: during the Olympics, we started playing games and we started winning,

1714
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,799
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, shave tomorrow or whatever.

1715
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 4: And then we went again, and then we went again,

1716
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 4: and then we went again.

1717
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 5: Not just feeling things.

1718
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 3: So this is like yeah, and then a little bit

1719
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 3: with the jazz, but obviously like over eighty two I'm

1720
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: not going to not shave for eighty two games because

1721
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 3: it's disgusting.

1722
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, because your wife, But it's not like he's very

1723
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 5: particular about Yeah, like when he.

1724
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's like a superstition, but I just

1725
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 3: like the kind of like people like just keep rolling

1726
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 3: with it, like why why change it?

1727
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 4: It's not like.

1728
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's a superstition Joe, and has to

1729
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: be done at the right time with the hair trim

1730
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: which he gets his.

1731
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 3: Head because I can't get if I get my haircut

1732
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 3: and my beard don at the same time, I look

1733
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:57,599
Speaker 3: like I'm twelve again.

1734
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 5: I can confirm that chime, which it is, like.

1735
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 3: And I'll go get my haircut soon, which I spoke

1736
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 3: to my guy today.

1737
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 1: You've got a guy, and I'll leave.

1738
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,640
Speaker 3: That for a few days and then I'll eventually like

1739
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 3: trim my beard and then otherwise it's like going for my.

1740
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: Looking like it's a very specific schedule. I could feel

1741
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: like you've got to really coordinate.

1742
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 4: Wow, I don't care about shaving or like hates my

1743
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 4: beard more than me.

1744
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't care about it. I hate my husband's bed too,

1745
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: but I also hate clean shaving. Yeah, you look fine,

1746
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: like middle double yeah weirdly. Yeah, that's a good one.

1747
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 5: I reckon.

1748
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 2: Well, actually, you've actually done a fair deep dive full

1749
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,960
Speaker 2: of research, so anything's going to guess what my first

1750
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 2: job was.

1751
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:49,719
Speaker 5: It's probably you, but.

1752
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 2: My first paying job was on a mobile animal farm

1753
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: and we used.

1754
01:21:55,040 --> 01:22:00,280
Speaker 5: To go who baits and birthday parties and the Blue

1755
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 5: Heelers set.

1756
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't not, Oh my god, I love animals.

1757
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: That would be the best job job.

1758
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 5: Can you believe that mobile?

1759
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: I actually can't believe that. I thought you were going

1760
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: to say, like a mobile phone shop or something. I

1761
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: was like, okay, stopping calm down photophone year.

1762
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,520
Speaker 5: Old kids from killing guinea pigs basically.

1763
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 4: And then she was a bartender.

1764
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: I was a bartender for three and a half years

1765
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 2: with Joe Curran.

1766
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 1: Yep, quiet Hotel classon Oh my gosh.

1767
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 3: My second one that I wrote down was definitely something

1768
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 3: that people would know, but not as cool as my beard.

1769
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 1: Just a second tier fact.

1770
01:22:46,840 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 3: So since I went to Grenada my first year in

1771
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight two thousand and nine when we

1772
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 3: finished the season, I haven't had a Christmas in Australia since.

1773
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 5: Since two thousand and eight.

1774
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: Wow eight was my last Christmas in Australia, which we

1775
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 3: probably played on Boxing Day I reckon with the NBL,

1776
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 3: So I probably didn't even really have a Christmas in

1777
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. So ever since I've known Renee,

1778
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 3: we've never had a Christmas in Australia together or a

1779
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 3: part Oh.

1780
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: My gosh that they've all been Northern Hemisphere, cold Christmases.

1781
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 1: And now it's going to be so weird for you

1782
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,440
Speaker 1: guys when you do get back and Christmas.

1783
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, one in a couple of Europe, so I had

1784
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 3: multiple Europe. I'm saying the weather is decent there, but

1785
01:23:32,439 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 3: what everyone in Utah has been snow.

1786
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 1: It's kind of nice though. Christmas when it's snowing is

1787
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: really magical.

1788
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 3: Well, it's going to be funny with the kids because

1789
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 3: obviously they only know why.

1790
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 4: They think why Christmas is normal. It's just.

1791
01:23:46,439 --> 01:23:48,360
Speaker 5: The shrinks on the barbie for.

1792
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:52,440
Speaker 1: All their Christmas cards actually make sense. Yeah, unlike us.

1793
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: Well yeah, exactly.

1794
01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 3: My third one, which Renee remind under me the other

1795
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 3: day when we were talking about it.

1796
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 4: So I used to get really really mad and the

1797
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 4: can openers.

1798
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 5: Quite literally he cannot use the cannon.

1799
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,320
Speaker 4: I would be losing my mind and swearing.

1800
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 8: She was just like like broken, like swearing, swearing, screaming

1801
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 8: the house down and complaining that it's broken.

1802
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 3: And then obviously realize that I'm left handed, so left handed,

1803
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 3: it's actually.

1804
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: A lot more. I think it all makes it possible.

1805
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 5: But apparently there's left handed left hand.

1806
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 2: Actually, birthday's coming up, maybe I'll get you a left

1807
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: handed canon.

1808
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: What a great present, honestly.

1809
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: Would be like what are you talking about? And then

1810
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 3: whatever can or whatever would be open?

1811
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 4: And I was like, what the.

1812
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:58,600
Speaker 5: How did she do?

1813
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 3: I was like it was I've spoken for twenty minutes,

1814
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 3: like you just fixed it, and it's.

1815
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 1: I love that famous NBA player. Can't open it, cannot

1816
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: open it just can't. You cannot do it.

1817
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 3: We've got now like we've had it for a while.

1818
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 3: I figured out how to work it so I can

1819
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 3: do it.

1820
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 5: And it's it's not like yeah, you know when the

1821
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 5: cans just not a neat.

1822
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a smooth brain.

1823
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:23,639
Speaker 3: You're a smooth like plugged a little hole. And I've

1824
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 3: like stabbed the knife around it.

1825
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 1: You've just been pretending that you can use it. You're like, look, Rene,

1826
01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: I did it, but you've got a knife and like

1827
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: hacked around just to like.

1828
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 5: It wouldn't surprise me.

1829
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 4: But it's amazing, very very difficult to you.

1830
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 1: Wow, the challenges, the challenges.

1831
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 2: My third one that I feel like people that know

1832
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: me would know this, but people that are listening who

1833
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 2: hadn't known us before wouldn't know this. But my favorite

1834
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 2: meal ever in the entire world, and no one else

1835
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: can do it the same. Joe has done it really well,

1836
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:01,640
Speaker 2: but still not the same. Is my dad curried sausages.

1837
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love Courage.

1838
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:05,080
Speaker 5: My gosh.

1839
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: They are just like, oh God, I missed soraying that

1840
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 2: I haven't had them in.

1841
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 5: Like three years.

1842
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 4: Coals like coals.

1843
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: No one else can make it the same. You just

1844
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: get the perfect mix of curry and like everything.

1845
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 5: It's just anyway. My favorite ever is my Dad's caacter.

1846
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 3: I still remember going to house at the Patch one

1847
01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 3: time and she was like having Dad's Courage sausages, and.

1848
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 5: I was like, they're actually.

1849
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: Like unbelievable, amazing. When you come back home, I'm just

1850
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: gonna like turn up on your dad's stores and be like,

1851
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: I need, I need to understand what you're talking about

1852
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 1: with these sausages.

1853
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 5: You know, we do curried sausages with rice, like white rice.

1854
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: Whereas a lot of people do curried sausages or like

1855
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: curries with potato, but we do it with rice.

1856
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 5: So just just a heads up for when you come.

1857
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: It's the part is.

1858
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 5: It's not like a banger is a mash.

1859
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 3: It's like saying like we're having carried like I don't

1860
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 3: even like curry, Like what are.

1861
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 4: You talking about?

1862
01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: What is happening?

1863
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,639
Speaker 4: Like Pepper's spicy for an a and now we're eating

1864
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 4: It's true.

1865
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: Wow, guys, the whole world knows you so much right now,

1866
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 1: this is so wonderful. Ship No, like s PC is

1867
01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: going to ship all the like pullin the pull tin

1868
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: so that you don't have to use the can so

1869
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 1: much better except when you pull them off and then

1870
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: you just screw, like when the whole thing comes off

1871
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 1: and then you can't use the opener either, and you're

1872
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,519
Speaker 1: just like, well, I'm never going to get.

1873
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,000
Speaker 5: The baby you can't.

1874
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh and last question, guys, what's your favorite quote.

1875
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 5: On the truth.

1876
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I don't. I'm not a

1877
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:01,479
Speaker 4: quota not a quote.

1878
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people aren't. It's only weird people like

1879
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 1: me who have one for every situation, Like it just

1880
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: comes out.

1881
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 4: I think it's a part of like earlier, like I'm

1882
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 4: just too like I just kind of.

1883
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,759
Speaker 5: Can't remember anything, so I feel like you can.

1884
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,120
Speaker 3: Quote from and I'll be like pull my phone out

1885
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:22,520
Speaker 3: like trying to google like best quotes of twenty twenty one.

1886
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 4: I just don't.

1887
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 3: I think a part of it is just like no,

1888
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 3: like kind of just roll with it, like I'm I

1889
01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 3: don't need anything to have to tell me what to

1890
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 3: do each day in the text the.

1891
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: Text message and the text messages reply.

1892
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 3: But then they're like it's just like it's suddenly like

1893
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,760
Speaker 3: not playing well or whatever, like I'll figure it out,

1894
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 3: Like I don't need it.

1895
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: I don't need quotes.

1896
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, to me, I'm going to get a little bit

1897
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: cheesy because I had been thinking about this.

1898
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 5: Obviously.

1899
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:52,559
Speaker 2: I've listened to your podcast a lot, so I've been

1900
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: listening to everyone else's quotes, and I was just.

1901
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,799
Speaker 5: Like, oh no, I was feeling like the quote pressure,

1902
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 5: you know.

1903
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,360
Speaker 2: But I actually have to say, for so much of

1904
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: my career and any netballer that has been a teammate

1905
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 2: of mine and maybe listening, we go, oh my gosh,

1906
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,960
Speaker 2: we're an April quotes from here and here, And I

1907
01:29:09,000 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 2: always used to post quotes and have quotes on my

1908
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,599
Speaker 2: wall and quotes of my diary and all of that stuff.

1909
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:15,760
Speaker 2: And I honestly, when I think about it now, I

1910
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: think it was because I was just outsourcing inspiration all

1911
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:24,240
Speaker 2: the time externally rather than sort of getting it from within.

1912
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 2: I felt like I had to work harder than anyone,

1913
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: and then every quote that I could get would inspire

1914
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: me essentially. So I can honestly say that that has

1915
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 2: totally changed. And I'm going to get a little bit

1916
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 2: cheesy here and tell you that my favorite quote. Joe

1917
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 2: doesn't know I'm going to say this. My favorite quote

1918
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 2: is actually one that we've always used and used to

1919
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 2: say to each other across our journey. Obviously, we talk

1920
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 2: about being together twelve thirteen years, but we actually had

1921
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 2: a little break in there for a while and took

1922
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 2: time apart. That was I think the best thing ever

1923
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 2: for us. But once we found our way back together,

1924
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:00,839
Speaker 2: I think our relationship was a lot better long distance,

1925
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 2: and long distance is really hard and you had to

1926
01:30:02,920 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 2: get really good at communicating.

1927
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,600
Speaker 5: This is a really long way of telling you this. Anyway,

1928
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 5: this is a beautiful We had to.

1929
01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 2: Really learn to communicate, and I think our time apart

1930
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: just really made us grateful for what each other could bring,

1931
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 2: regardless of how completely opposite of each other.

1932
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 5: We are that we brought each other.

1933
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 2: That balance, and we always used to say to each other,

1934
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 2: like whether it was Joe's early morning or my late night,

1935
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,120
Speaker 2: or my early morning at his late night, or just

1936
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: signing off and saying goodbye, whatever it was, we always

1937
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 2: used to say to each other.

1938
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 5: Thanks for making a difference.

1939
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,559
Speaker 2: And we've probably gone a little bit away from that

1940
01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: at the moment, but it is actually still something that

1941
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:43,679
Speaker 2: not a mantra that I live by or a quote

1942
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 2: that I live by, but I just think that every

1943
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: person that I crossed parts with, or you know, with

1944
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,920
Speaker 2: Jacob or Miller or Jack, the kids or Joe and

1945
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: our relationship is.

1946
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 5: How can I make a difference in a positive way?

1947
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 2: Obviously, so I kind of just yeah, we always used

1948
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: to say to each other, probably go back to that,

1949
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 2: but I think at the end of the day, you know,

1950
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 2: he's making such a huge difference to my life and

1951
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 2: hopefully vice versa and the kids didn't going through the pandemic.

1952
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 2: So thanks for making a difference is something that we always.

1953
01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:13,559
Speaker 5: Just used to text each other.

1954
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,320
Speaker 4: So you're going to say what the last emojis were?

1955
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,679
Speaker 5: That's why I thought, oh, oh, we still do that so.

1956
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 3: We I don't even know how it started, but now

1957
01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,599
Speaker 3: you're like, hey, I see a good night. Like wherever

1958
01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 3: we are, we would always finish it with the love

1959
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 3: heart emoji, the pound fist and the flames, because you

1960
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 3: know people used to do that like that. Yes, I

1961
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 3: don't even know how it started, but we used to

1962
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:41,760
Speaker 3: like joke and do it to each other all the time,

1963
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,839
Speaker 3: like when I was leaving the house or like whatever,

1964
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 3: and then it just always I don't even know when

1965
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: it started, but it's been now. We still do it now,

1966
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,080
Speaker 3: like it to me when I text Renee, I just

1967
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Speaker 3: automatically do it. I don't even think about it anymore.

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Speaker 1: To be like it's so cute.

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Speaker 4: Like acting like twelve year olds.

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Speaker 5: But it's just like maybe that's why thanks man, scrap,

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Speaker 5: because it.

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Speaker 1: Was because it's just like I prefer you know what,

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Speaker 1: I like words. Both of those are awesome. I love

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Speaker 1: both of them. You both are making such a huge difference.

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Speaker 4: Is anyone not giving you a quote?

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Speaker 1: No one's ever kno giving me a quote. I've had

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Speaker 1: people quote themselves, which is cute. No one's ever given

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Speaker 1: me an emoji before. That's a pretty good one. That's

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Speaker 1: a flex. I really like that, Joe, that's a flex

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Speaker 1: right there.

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Speaker 3: When you're saying that, I was like, I was trying

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Speaker 3: to think of how it started, and it was obviously

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Speaker 3: just a completely random thing that happened.

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Speaker 4: And then it's been, however, many years of just randomly

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Speaker 4: doing it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just doing it. What do you guys call each other?

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Speaker 1: I feel like it's really interesting when you first are

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Speaker 1: round a couple when they're speaking to each other, Like

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Speaker 1: you go over to someone's place for dinner and they're

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Speaker 1: cute word for each other is like the versions of

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Speaker 1: baby or bar, but like you know, the first time you.

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Speaker 2: Hear it, and you're always like something no one else

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Speaker 2: ever knows. So everyone in the netball world calls me

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Speaker 2: nay or neighbor. That's I've always just been name.

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Speaker 1: Nay, Nay, Nay, Nay, neighbor, neighbor.

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Speaker 2: Joe never called me a nickname ever, It's always been Renee.

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Speaker 5: Like he's never called me nay, and everyone else's family

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Speaker 5: friends calls me nay. He's never ever refuses.

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Speaker 2: He's always just said, and I'm like, I guess I'm

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Speaker 2: always in trouble.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, even like there's no bub or babe.

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Speaker 2: Or a if anything, but no, he would never say baby,

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Speaker 2: you taxed it, but you would never actually call me

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Speaker 2: babe or I say babe all the time, Babe, Joe, Joe,

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Speaker 2: Joe mister times you know, like Joe will go on

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01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,559
Speaker 2: like tour like the Boomers or on a blong broad

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Speaker 2: trip and like it'll just like slip out and then

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Speaker 2: he yo, bro, and I'll be like.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, you can see it again. It's even

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Speaker 5: finished coming out of his lips. He's like, I'm retracting that.

2012
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: So my husband does the opposite. He's like, so we

2013
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: his dad's unewell and he's just gone into quarantine and tazzy.

2014
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,560
Speaker 1: And so we've been doing long distance medium distance a

2015
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: little bit this year. But because all his work is

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Speaker 1: online as well, he'll go to other people and be

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Speaker 1: like hey, honey, or like love you to like one

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Speaker 1: of his mates, so one of his clients, because we're

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01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:35,000
Speaker 1: like texting all the time. It's done it so many times.

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Speaker 1: He's like, they all just accept the love heart.

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Speaker 3: Now. I don't know why I've always I think the

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01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 3: whole to me, it was always like a teammates thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not me teammate like.

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Speaker 1: So it's like bro, It's like bro to you, It's like, no,

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Speaker 1: we're not growing out. Maybe the episode should be called

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Speaker 1: Seize the Name.

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Speaker 2: Well, I actually did listen in one of your other podcasts.

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Speaker 2: You were saying that really wanted to get someone and

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01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:05,479
Speaker 2: a question because you really wanted to say seize the nay.

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Speaker 2: And I was going to like, I literally neally texted

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Speaker 2: you to be like you could use it anyway.

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Speaker 5: I was like, but here you go.

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Speaker 1: Oh you guys, you're amazing. This was absolutely delightful. I've

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Speaker 1: taken up so much of your time, which now even

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01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: more I appreciate how little time you get together at home,

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Speaker 1: So thank you so much for spending a night on

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Speaker 1: the show. This has just been delightful. I'm so excited

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Speaker 1: to follow your journey with the run and see that

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood can get behind you.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited now to follow your journey with your run

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01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 2: as well. And we obviously love what you're doing and

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01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: all the positive energy that you're putting out there.

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Speaker 5: So keep it up. Because you have two listeners over here.

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Speaker 2: We love our podcast and we certainly love CESDA, So

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01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 2: thank you for having a song it's been so fun.

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Speaker 4: Real housewives who's so like sy.

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Speaker 1: Oh even more. I appreciate that, like I'm the same.

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Speaker 1: I'm in bed at six pm. If I can so

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Speaker 1: thank you guys so much. You've been amazing, and I'll

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Speaker 1: make sure to include links to the fundraising pages in

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Speaker 1: the show notes.

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Speaker 5: Awesome, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Like I said at the start, I'm a little bit

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Speaker 1: in love with these too. I don't know how they

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01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 1: keep such a good head on their shoulders, but they

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Speaker 1: do it with such grace. Like we mentioned, it would

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Speaker 1: be wonderful if anyone in the neighborhood whose circumstances allow

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Speaker 1: could get around Rene's marathon effort coming up in the

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Speaker 1: New York Marathon. We would so so appreciate it. So

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Speaker 1: I've popped some links in the show notes if you'd

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Speaker 1: like to support. And as we discussed, even the price

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01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:40,639
Speaker 1: of coffee can go a long way in the fight,

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Speaker 1: so anything that you can afford to give would be

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Speaker 1: so very much appreciated. If you enjoyed listening, As always,

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Speaker 1: it means so much when you shower our guests with

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Speaker 1: love or share the episode with your takeaways to thank

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Speaker 1: them for their time. So please, if you're sharing tag

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Speaker 1: Joe ingles and Renee ingles so they can hear what

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Speaker 1: you thought. Also, if you're listening, Bianca, the wonderful human

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Speaker 1: who I have to thank for this amazing episode, who

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Speaker 1: has moved over to Utah to work with the family.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for making this possible, your amazing woman.

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for your endless support and love for

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Speaker 1: the neighborhood. Hope you guys are all having a wonderful

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Speaker 1: week and are seizing your yea