1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: The day of the race, she came up to me 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: and she's like, I have a rock for you, and 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: she painted this little fox and this rock. And then 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: in Paris, I went to the memorial in the village 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: and I collected one rock for my grandpa from France 6 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: that would also be in the stands, and one rock 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: for my grandpa Fox. And then I had also my 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: lucky rock for the fox. I had three frickin' stones 9 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: in my sports brother, I need to know these for 10 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: every single run. 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Seas The Yay Podcast. 12 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 3: Busy and happy are not the same thing. We too 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 3: rarely question what makes the heart seeing. We work, then 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: we rest, but rarely we play and often don't realize 15 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 3: there's more than one way. So this is a platform 16 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 3: to hear and explore the stories of those who found lives. 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 3: They adore, the good, bad and ugly. The best and 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: worst days will bear all the facets of seizing your yay. 19 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: I'm Sarah Davidson or a spoonful of Sarah, a lawyer 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: turned funentrepreneur who swapped the suits and heels to co 21 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: found Matcha Maiden and Matcha Milkbar. Cza is a series 22 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: of conversations on finding a life you love and exploring 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 3: the self doubt, challenge, joy and fulfillment along the way. 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: Hello, lovely neighborhood. 25 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 3: I am so excited to have another guest for you 26 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: this week, and a very very special one that's been 27 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 3: in the making for quite a few years now. If 28 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: you were anywhere near the Paris Olympics this year, which 29 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: I'm hoping all of you were, it was impossible to 30 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 3: miss the incredible Fox sisters, whose metal tally as a 31 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 3: duo rivaled some of the top performing countries in the Games. 32 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: And while you'll all. 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: Remember our episode with twenty twenty four flag bearer and 34 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: Ozzie Golden Girl Jess Fox after Tokyo a few years ago, 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: which we actually re shared during the Games, this year 36 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 3: was all about her younger sister, Miami Fox's Olympic debut, 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: which saw her not only beat Jess in her kayak 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 3: cross event, but become the first ever gold medalist this 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 3: new event after years of a technicality squashing her Olympic dream. 40 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 3: Having met Noemi back then, it was actually when Noemi, 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: Jess and their mother, who is also an Olympian, taught 42 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 3: me how to do a wet to exit and a 43 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: role in a kayak which you'll hear about in the episode. 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: Back then, the Olympic still wasn't even on the cards 45 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: for Miomi, as you'll hear us explain in the episode. 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 3: So it made my life to see her time to 47 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: shine in Paris, and I'm so grateful to have caught 48 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: up with her while the win and the games and 49 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: all of the excitement is still fresh in her mind. 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: I mentioned in a. 51 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 3: Couple of the episodes that I did try to record 52 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: some Olympian episodes while they were in the village and 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: Miomi was one of them, and that there was a 54 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: band on media at the time, But it worked out 55 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: far better that we got to catch up afterwards as 56 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 3: things turned out. There are so many beautiful facets to 57 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: this story. A whole family of Olympians and their French connection, 58 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: for the games that happened to be in Paris, the 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 3: very long wait in the wings, and the complexity of 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: patience for some people's dreams, Noemi's entire career outside of 61 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: the sport as a corporate girlie and the ways that 62 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: that actually bettes her performance, and what I feel shines 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: through the most about Noeh is the incredible power of 64 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: mindset and choosing a narrative for yourself even when the 65 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: media around the world is imposing a different one on you. 66 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: If you haven't. 67 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: Already been, I hope you are as impacted by Noemi's 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: humility and good sense as I am. She is incredibly inspiring. 69 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: I'm so so happy for her, and I hope you 70 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: guys enjoy Noemi. 71 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to Ceza. 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. 73 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to see you and speak with you 74 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: after you know, seeing you follow everything, I'm like, yeah, 75 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: we can finally have a conversation about everything. 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: I'm so excited, and I mean you, guys, you can't 77 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: actually see the video to all the listeners, but my 78 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: face since I have logged on, has just been in 79 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: this like gigantic wrinkle, nose, eyes shut, smile because I 80 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: am so so excited for this chat, particularly because we 81 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: met two years ago now, I think after the Tokyo Olympics, 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 3: and you hadn't qualified. 83 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: We didn't know that this would be the journey. 84 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: We're just saying how beautiful it is that the show 85 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: is kind of like a time capsule of how you 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 3: feel at a particular time and to now catch up 87 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: after you becoming the first Olympic champion ever in the 88 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 3: slalem kayak cross at your first Olympics. 89 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: What, I know, it's pretty crazy. I appreciate the enthusiasm. 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I feel like you're you know, you're lifting my dead 91 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: spirits because I've just been so exhausted for the past 92 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: two weeks and three weeks. As it kind of hits 93 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: me and his life kind of starts to slow down, 94 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: it's all, yeah, it's all just coming back, and I'm 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: starting to relive everything, and yeah, let it sink in 96 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: that I did win the first ever kit cross gold 97 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: medal and that it isn't all a fairy tale. It's 98 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: not all too good to be true, but we you know, 99 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: made it happen, and every part of the journey led 100 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: perfectly to that moment and to delivering my best on 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: that day and getting that outcome. So yeah, it's nice 102 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: to now be home kind of see everyone as well 103 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: that you know watched the race or had their own 104 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Olympic experience and share, you know, either on social media 105 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: or in person or at the coffee line today to say, oh, 106 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: I watched your race. That was amazing and it was 107 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: so cool when you did this and yeah, so it's 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: just been so beautiful to come home and to see 109 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: how Australia got behind the Olympic Games, and you know 110 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: also how they're about to get behind and how they 111 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: will get behind the Paralympians as well. So this whole 112 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: sporting culture that we have here has just been so 113 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: amazing to kind of yeah, live now and soak it 114 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: all in. 115 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 4: Really, Oh my gosh. 116 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it's I think the Olympics is always something 117 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 3: that I just like emotional every year since I've ever 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: watched it about how much it sport like breaks down 119 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 3: geographical barriers and cultural barriers and the stories of you know, 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: people from their childhoods and families. 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's always magical. 122 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: But to have been able to meet you beforehand and 123 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: see Jess's Olympics and speak to her about her journey, 124 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: and meet your mom and then you're you know, both 125 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 3: your parents and your aunt's you know, everyone in your 126 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: family is an Olympian, and to have met you before 127 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: this part of your journey and then be able to 128 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: watch you step into that and watch at real time 129 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: in France where you were bought, like it just I 130 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 3: can't even explain the goose bumps when you've crossed that 131 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 3: line and just jumped in the water, like the whole 132 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: nation just fell in love with you. And so it 133 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 3: is such a great privilege to be able to chat 134 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: to you while it's still fresh. And this is such 135 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: a crazy question, but how are you actually feeling? It's 136 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: been what like four weeks and it's three and. 137 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: A half week three and a half weeks ish, Yeah, 138 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: three weeks ago today. It was on the fifth of August, 139 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: so I still can it really calculate, But it was 140 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: a Monday, so yes, it's today marks three weeks. So 141 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: freeway conversary. 142 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: Me every single Monday for the rest of my life. 143 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. You can ride all the coattails 144 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: of this forever. 145 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: But no, I think, yeah, I'm doing I mean, I 146 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: don't sound like I'm doing really well, but I am 147 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: doing really well. I think I'm so happy to be 148 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: back home, like I said, and to be enjoying this 149 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: the high that comes with, you know, winning an Olympic 150 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: gold medal and sharing that with the wider. 151 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: Community and everyone. 152 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: Really, you know, I'm just kind of sharing it with everyone. 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: I say. I'm like, yeah, you can hold it. 154 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 4: You can hold it, you can hold my metal. 155 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Like, I just want to share it because it's it's 156 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: just such an incredible experience. And yeah, I was one 157 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: of those little girls back in the day that got 158 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: to hold medals and be inspied by Olympians. So it's 159 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: definitely a full circle for me. But recovering my voice 160 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: has sounded better before. But I'm getting back on the 161 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: sleep train and starting to think about, yeah, the next 162 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: World Cups. And someone yesterday commented on my social media 163 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: post of you know, a glamorous weekend that I posted, 164 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: and they're like, Okay, the Olympics finished three weeks ago, 165 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: your competitors are training. It's time to get back into 166 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: it and stop with the glamorous moments. 167 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 4: Was like, oh my. 168 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: Karen, let me live. I just want an Olympic cold metal. 169 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm like, okay, maybe maybe it is time 170 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: to get back into it. 171 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, absolutely not. 172 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: It hasn't even been a month. Cool pool jets, Karen. 173 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't even know where to start. 174 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: I think I'll do this one a little bit backwards, 175 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 3: because you know, I love to go through the whole 176 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: story of how it, you know, started from childhood and 177 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: how to get here. 178 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: But given that everything's. 179 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 5: So current, I'd love to just go through. 180 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it's happened so quickly, And I think one 181 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: of the things that I always talk about is the 182 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: fact that there's so much waiting in the wings for 183 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 3: people's big moment, whether it's an AHA moment in finding 184 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 3: the yay and changing careers, or an RHA moment in 185 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: getting to go to the Olympics, which is like a 186 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: once in a lifetime moment in time. But you've spent 187 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: a lot of time watching Jess in London, Rio and Tokyo, 188 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: and then even at this Olympics, your event, you had 189 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: to sit and watch all the time trial based events. First, 190 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: There's been a lot of waiting and you only actually 191 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 3: qualified in June, which seems like such a quick turnaround 192 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: to get your head around. You've waited your whole life 193 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: to make the Olympics, and then suddenly June is like, 194 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: by the way, you're going next month? 195 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 4: Like how? 196 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 3: And I would have loved to get a sound bite 197 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 3: of you before that, But what was your idea before 198 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: that all happened, Like how did it feel going in? 199 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: What was your idea of what success would have been 200 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: like to you, like what it would have a successful 201 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 3: Olympics have been before? You now know that you the 202 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 3: fox has claimed every goal in the whole entire slalein program. 203 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: But like, obviously that's the best case scenario. But how 204 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 3: did your nerves play out? We talk about self doubt, 205 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 3: like what was in your brain before? 206 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: Can you even remember? 207 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, like you said, a lot has happened, And it's 208 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: been such an condensed period of time to have like 209 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: the two biggest high pressure events of my life, like 210 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: six weeks apart after all this time, you know, waiting 211 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: and waiting and waiting. But I think, you know, my 212 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: Olympic quota qualification event really set me up to have 213 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: a successful Olympics because basically, from this time last year, 214 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: all I was thinking about was that qualification date, and 215 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: you know what I needed to do to be at 216 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: that to seize that Olympic window. You know, this was 217 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: the first time I was ever getting an Olympic opportunity. 218 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: I wanted to put all the eggs in my basket 219 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: and really, you know, seize that and and having that 220 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: sort of big dream to look forward to really kind 221 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: of change the way I trained and woke up every day, 222 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: and I was just so motivated, and yeah, there were 223 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: definitely a lot of lows dealing with all the pressure. 224 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: And I think the most amount of pressure that I 225 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: ever felt was actually right before going overseas in May 226 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: of this year, and I had to do all of 227 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: the Channel nine media as if I had qualified, because obviously, 228 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: once I was over there, if I did qualify, there 229 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: was no room to do all of the content that 230 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: was needed as an Olympic athlete. So that was probably 231 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: the hardest thing I had to do mentally in this 232 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: whole Olympic campaign was doing the Hi, my name's Miami 233 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: Fox and I'm an Olympic athlete, and then doing the 234 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: We're the Foxes and we're going to be competing, like 235 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: all of those sort of staged Olympic moments. Doing a 236 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: pre Olympic interview as if I had qualified. I kind 237 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: of just had to put on my acting hat. But 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: they were really kind of hard moments because I felt 239 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: like no one really understood how it was to qualify. 240 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: Everyone just assumed that I would. And I definitely use 241 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: that as like confidence and appreciate it everyone believing in me, 242 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: but it did kind of undermine how hard that selection 243 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: was and it was very much a long shot. Initially, 244 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: you know, only three global spots up for grabs. You 245 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: had to make a podium. There were fifty people competing, 246 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: the Ragning world champion, the silver medallist at the World 247 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: and a European champion, and then lots of top ten. 248 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: So it was very hard to kind of put myself 249 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: out there and say I'm chasing the Olympic dream and 250 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: you know this is my campaign. That definitely took a 251 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: lot of bravery, i'd say, and guts and then yeah, 252 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: doing all of that media was really hard. And then 253 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, once I was overseas, I was like, well, 254 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: look I've given it everything. We'll see what happens. I 255 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: can only be proud, and worse comes to worse. I 256 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: gave it everything to seize that Olympic dream, and I 257 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: can only be proud. And so when I unlocked that 258 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: big new race and qualified for the Games, it was 259 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: kind of like, wow, like this is your dream. 260 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: Just enjoy it. 261 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: Like I think as much as you know, I've seen 262 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: the Olympic dream of the one percent of you know, 263 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: Jess winning and other people winning, it's like the likelihood 264 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: of achieving that success is really hard, Like the likelihood 265 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: of performing on the day at your best and winning 266 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: gold is like the stuff you dream about. But you've 267 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: got to be okay with you know, understanding that that's 268 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: extremely hard. And so I didn't want my Olympic experience 269 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: to just be dictated by the result. So deep down 270 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: my goal was to make a semi final, to finish 271 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: top eight. I thought that was a really credible result. 272 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: It's a top ten and it's my level. But there 273 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: was also the hang on Whoever's going to be that 274 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: first Olympic champion I've beaten before? And there was only 275 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: a handful of like people that would I would have 276 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: like accepted to be in front of me, you know, 277 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: like there was only a few that I'm like, okay, 278 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 1: if I'm on the podium with you or if you win, 279 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: like that's understandable, like you deserve it. So I kind of, 280 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: you know, knew that whatever happened, I would have beaten 281 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: everyone before, so why, you know, why not me? But 282 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: I definitely stayed very process driven, enjoyed the whole experience 283 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: and really didn't think about the result. And even you know, 284 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: after Jess winning and when people would come up and 285 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: be like Okay, you've got it your next like we 286 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: believe in you. It really wasn't the same pressure as 287 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: when I was doing that media before qualifying. It was 288 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: like alrighty, we'll see, Like I just want to get it, 289 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: Like I'm so ready to get out there and have 290 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: my moment. But yeah, I'm really proud of the fact 291 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: that I wasn't results driven. I was very process driven 292 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: and I was so bloody happy to be there, you know, 293 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: And I think that really played off in different areas, 294 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: Like it was just like far out we're here, like 295 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: it's magical, the Eiffel Tower sparkling as we're going down 296 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: on the boat, with the Australian flags, with the team, 297 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: like just the races, the crowd, like feeling that energy 298 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: and being like wow, Like the first day I step out, 299 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: it was like teas in my eyes because it's just 300 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: so like so moving, the crowd and hearing the music 301 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: and fourteen thousand people watching our sport like it was 302 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: everything was very moving, and so I was, yeah, using 303 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: that as positive energy and knowing that this is all 304 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: part of a positive Olympic experience, and I guess, you know, 305 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm so ready to go out there. But there's more 306 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: to the Olympic Games experience than just my result, you know, 307 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: just showing up on the day doing your best, like 308 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: that's all I kind of wanted to get out of it. 309 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, oh my gosh. 310 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you are the most well adjusted person I've 311 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 3: ever spoken to. 312 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: What a good head on your shoulders, And I feel like. 313 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: It is a really, really difficult I mean, so much 314 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: of what we talk about here is the relationship between 315 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: success and happiness, which is really measurable in business because 316 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: it's all about numbers and growth, But when it comes 317 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: to elite sports and particularly individual sports, it's such a 318 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: binary exercise. It's like you either get to the Olympics 319 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 3: or you don't. You either win or you don't, And 320 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: there's like first, second, third, there's not just like did you. 321 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: Have a good time? Yeah, did you enjoy the experience? 322 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: Did you do your best? And then there's the fact 323 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: for you of. 324 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: Not just like I mean, the person who comes sort 325 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 3: of last or so to say, in the Olympics is 326 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 3: still like the best in the world. But the mental 327 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: game of like tying winning in with your enjoyment and 328 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: still being able to see that most people set out. 329 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: You know, we talk about how there's so much pirit 330 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: of failure. Most people can kind of quietly lead up 331 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: to their goals. 332 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: You have not just been unable to sort of announce 333 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 3: your Olympic campaign and then like quietly work hard. 334 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: It's like, by the way, your entire family are. 335 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: Olympians, are you going to join us with literally was 336 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: watching you? So to keep a good head on your 337 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 3: shoulders in that light and not crumble under the pressure. 338 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: I mean, people think the day itself of the race 339 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: was the hardest for you. I'm not surprised that is 340 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 3: actually the lead up that was the most difficult. 341 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. 342 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: And I think in what you just said, like, oh, 343 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: your whole family Olympians. You're the only one in your 344 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: family that's not an Olympia haha, and you're like, so, 345 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, there's there's definitely been a lot of pressure, 346 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: and I think it was much harder up until like 347 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: two years ago. I think there was a big self 348 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: identity crisis and frustration of not ever having you know, 349 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: my opportunity or in other countries. You know, all you 350 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: have to do is beat twentieth in the world to 351 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: get to the Olympics and in Australia, you're not really 352 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: recognized as a credible athlete until you get to the 353 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: Olympic Games unless you're part of, you know, a professional 354 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: sport that's. 355 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: Not in the Olympics. 356 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: But also my own satisfaction and self worth naturally being 357 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: tied to well, I'm why am I, you know, doing 358 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: this if I'm never going to get to the Olympics. 359 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: So it wasn't until kind of started my own like 360 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: career outside of the boat and did a master's and 361 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: then started working to kind of create a sense of 362 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: balance that you know, other people would be like, oh 363 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: my god, what you do is amazing, and that kind 364 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: of like lifted up my self worth of it and 365 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: being like, oh, you. 366 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: Know what I do. 367 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Love what I do, Like it doesn't matter if I 368 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: never make the Olympics. But you know, deep down it 369 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: did matter. I was still gonna not help until I 370 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: made the Olympics. And so when there was that opening, 371 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: it was really hard to kind of fully commit initially 372 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: because I was really scared of, I guess, the exposure 373 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: and the fear of failure of having such a public 374 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: campaign like oh if I didn't get it, like how 375 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: embarrassing even though it was really hard in a real 376 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: long shot, and also kind of being the favorite and 377 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: everyone being like, oh, don't worry, like you'll get it, 378 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, what if I don't, then everyone's 379 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: gonna see me as a failure and then I'll be 380 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: the only one to never make the Olympics. So there 381 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: was a lot of self doubt, fear, pressure, but I 382 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: was also like, oh my gosh, you know, I've never 383 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: had this pressure before, Like what a kind of privilege 384 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: to be in a position where I'm a favorite going 385 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: for the Olympics. And so I really twisted the narrative, 386 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: and the day before the Olympic qualify it, there was 387 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: this moment of like stress that holy crap, the day's come. 388 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: And then after this, what like this has been the 389 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: biggest goal of my life and then now after this, 390 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: I feel like no goal can ever be as big 391 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 1: as as trying to qualify for the Olympics. So there 392 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: was a bit of like a moment where I thought, 393 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: if this doesn't go to plan, like you know what, 394 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: like that at least I gave it everything. But it 395 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: was kind of scary to know that there was a 396 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: time date. 397 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 4: And everyone would be watching. 398 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:32,239 Speaker 1: But when we qualified, well, when I qualified, it was 399 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: just pure like relief, joy, like ecstatic, just so proud 400 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: and happy to have been so I guess like driven 401 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: and fearless and to have really committed to the goal 402 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: and have had that payoff. And I wrote everything down 403 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: throughout all the whole process because I didn't want to 404 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: just think it was a O. I didn't think, oh, 405 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: you were lucky, you know, Like I really wanted to 406 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: cement the fact that you know, when you work hard, 407 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: when you manifest, you know, when you're fully driven to get. 408 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 4: Something, that it can pay off. 409 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: And I really kind of leaned into that and that 410 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: whole process when I was at the Games, because even 411 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: at the Games, there was a few moments of like 412 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome and I'm just doing one category a lot 413 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: of people are doing too, I'm a late qualifier, Like 414 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, there's just that natural sometimes self doubt and 415 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: imposter syndrome. So yeah, there was a lot of work 416 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: on really cementing the fact that I had a hard 417 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: selection process. I deserve to be there, and I'm worthy 418 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: of being an Olympian, Like I deserve to be on 419 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: that start line and deliver my best. 420 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 421 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 3: I mean, your whole journey just in the last like 422 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 3: three four weeks has been the most acute example of 423 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 3: all the themes of this show, Like every single possible obstacle 424 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 3: towards a goal that could exist you've kind of had 425 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: thrown at you in such a short amount of time. 426 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: But the power of your mindset, like you mentioned the 427 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: way you worded it was changing the narrative, is that 428 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 3: changing the narrative doesn't change any of the obstacles that 429 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 3: you have in front of you. It doesn't change what 430 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: you have to do on the day, it doesn't change 431 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 3: what the media is going to make of your story. 432 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 3: It doesn't change the risk, it doesn't change the public 433 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 3: face that you've got, but it does. 434 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: Change your experience of it. 435 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 3: So I think it's so beautiful that you did document 436 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 3: how you came into it mentally and how much that 437 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: influenced the way that everything turned out for you. And 438 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 3: just to explain to everyone, I think what's amazing about 439 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: this Olympic campaign is that you and Jess and everyone 440 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: you know this year has put Canoe Slalem into such 441 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: a spotlight that it maybe didn't have before, and everyone's 442 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 3: starting to understand the C one, the K one, the 443 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: difference between the time trials and stuff. But just so 444 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: people understand, there's a single quota for the Olympics for 445 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 3: each country, so one single athlete can go to the 446 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 3: Olympics in this sport. And that's why for so long 447 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 3: just took that spot, and you, being three years younger, 448 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 3: sort of couldn't have this Olympic dream until kayak cross, 449 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: which is a new event, came up. So when did 450 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: that actually happen? And then did that suddenly open up 451 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: this whole like oh my god? 452 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think it was like when Paris was 453 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: officially confirmed as the host city, we knew that kaya 454 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: cross would be a confirmed discipline, and initially it was like, 455 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm going to be able to go 456 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: because we'll have two girls. But then quickly we realized 457 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: that actually, no kayite cross. Whoever does kayaking canoe automatically 458 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: does kayak cross, and that's what it's going to be. 459 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: So then I thought, oh, so Jess is just going 460 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: to do three disciplines, and even if I'm better ranked, 461 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: or even if I'm more competitive or con beat her, 462 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: I won't be going to the Olympics. So then there 463 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: was that low, and then there was another high when 464 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 1: they realized there'll be three extra quotas for three specific 465 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: high cross athletes that win the race at the Olympic 466 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: quota qualification. So in September of twenty twenty three, it 467 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: was really hard. We had to make the decision to 468 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: pull me out of the World Championships because that was 469 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: the slalom quota qualification. And what was really difficult was 470 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: that instead of applying the quotas to the country, it 471 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: was to the name. So say Jess did the canoe, 472 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: she won the quota. Australia has a spot for the canoe. 473 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: She could not win the quota for the kayak. So 474 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: if I had raced the kayak, I would have won 475 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: a quota for the kayak, knowing that Jess was automatically 476 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: selected in both, and then I wouldn't have been able 477 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: to race at my actual kayak cross Olympic qualifier in 478 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: June the next year. So I was told to pull out, 479 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: and that was hard because for me that was the pinnacle, 480 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: that was the World Championships were the biggest race that 481 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: I had. That's where I could, you know, prove my 482 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: worthy of investment. Proved to myself my results and try 483 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: get a World Championship medal, and on London. I've performed 484 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: previously really well. I had made two finals the year before, 485 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: and I just felt so ready to perform, and so 486 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: to kind of make that conscious decision and commit to 487 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: the plan so early on and know that, oh, crap, well, 488 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: if I pull out of the World's here, I don't 489 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: get the quota, there's no World Championships in twenty twenty four, Like, 490 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: what a fail. 491 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 2: I got nothing. 492 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: I've got nothing like And so that was that was 493 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: really hard to like commit to. There were lots of tears, 494 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: there were lots of like, this is so unfair the 495 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: whole way, this system's design is so unfair. But you know, 496 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: then there was again the reframing of yeah, but I've 497 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: got an Olympic opportunity. You know, this is finally my 498 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: time to to really try and get that Olympic spot 499 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: and to try get you know, my moment. For so long, 500 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: I've been supporting, I've been cheering, you know, all the 501 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: other Olympics. I've been cheering, and yes, it's been so 502 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: amazing to see my sister, you know, win Olympic medals. 503 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: But like I was so sick of just being the 504 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: little sister and just being the you know, have extended 505 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: family be like, oh you still do that too? 506 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 4: Oh no, the wor you know that. 507 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, oh gosh, that's so hard. 508 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really hard. 509 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: And so so I was like, you know what, I 510 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: don't care. I'm going to go for this. I'm going 511 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: to give up all my World championships. You know, I'd 512 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: rather make the Olympics then get a bronze medal at 513 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: the World Championships. You know, no one remembers that. And 514 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: so yeah, fully committed and thought, just just focus on you, like, 515 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: this is your opportunity you've been dreaming of, coming out 516 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: of the shadows and having your moment, Like, just don't 517 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: waste it and give it everything, and and there'll be 518 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: credibility and lessons from trying so hard to make your 519 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: dream come true. And even if it doesn't, there's so 520 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: much great And I think that's kind of what helped 521 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: me on the day was I was so at peace 522 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: with the fact that I had given it everything, I 523 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: had nothing to regret, and there was only great things 524 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 1: that came from that Olympic qualification preparation, you know, that 525 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: I had to be grateful for, but obviously I would 526 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: have been devastated. We knew there'd be tears either happy or. 527 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: Sad on the day, and either way they were happy. 528 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: I just have to say, by the way that you 529 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 3: and Jess, I don't know how you do it, but 530 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: you managed to somehow be like like drowned rats who 531 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 3: have literally just come out of the water, who are 532 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: sweaty and crying and still look amazing on the podium, 533 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 3: like I don't. 534 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: I actually was like, how are they doing that? 535 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: You were so jealous of the athletics girls. They have 536 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: a full twenty four hours. We have ten minutes. We 537 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: were told, okay, you know, get changed super quickly. When 538 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: I got into the tent to get changed, they called 539 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: out two minutes and thirty seconds and was in my 540 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: kit and I was like, oh, it's still wet. 541 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 4: Serious, So that was, yeah, that's so unfair. 542 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 2: And you guys look good in helmets. 543 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: No one looks good in a helmet, Like, I don't 544 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 3: even understand. 545 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 4: It's so hard. 546 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: When I finished my rhymes, I was quickly like, mouthguard out, 547 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: mouthguard out. 548 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 4: I don't want the mouthguard in. 549 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: All of my smiling shots. You know, so I was like, 550 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: straight to the mouthguard pull it out. 551 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: Well, I think, I mean, this has already revealed how 552 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 3: much behind the scenes. I mean, everyone knows that there's 553 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: so much behind the scenes work that leads up to 554 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: any Olympics campaign, and really any big moment that's so 555 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 3: publicized that people don't see all those decisions and the 556 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 3: sacrifices that it take, literal sacrifices like an entire World Championships, 557 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 3: but also the fact that when most people face a 558 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: win or a loss, it's not often at the expense 559 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: of their sister, like for both of you kind of 560 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: in each direction, and that you were both actually in 561 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 3: that kayak cross race, and you know, Jess came last 562 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 3: in one of the heats, so your progression is at 563 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 3: the expense of her progression, and same with her in 564 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 3: like the previous Olympic Games, it was that there was 565 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 3: no spot for you at all. You couldn't even aim 566 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: for those because she had already taken it up. So 567 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 3: how do you guys manage and how have you managed 568 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: for so many years, how much joy you have for 569 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 3: each other when it's sometimes at the expense of each other, 570 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 3: and all in one family like that must take Watching 571 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 3: the joy that you both had for each other at. 572 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 2: The Olympics was amazing. 573 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 3: But I'm sure that it's taken time to like be 574 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: able to manage those dynamics. 575 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it has. 576 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: And I think you know, everyone's always like, is there 577 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: there must be so much jealousy? Or when are you 578 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: going to drill holes in her boat? 579 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: And I think there was definitely. 580 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: A thing like I already did that. 581 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: I already did that in twenty sixteen. 582 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: No, but I think you know, when I was a 583 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: junior and under twenty three, it was definitely much harder 584 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: because I never really celebrated my own success and it 585 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: took a long time to kind of realize, oh, I 586 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: am good at this. But I never let myself understand 587 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: that I was good at that because there was always 588 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: someone that would get better results. You know. So I'd 589 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: finished tenth at a World Championships and on paper, you know, 590 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: that's great and it was the second best result for Australia, 591 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: but Jess came first, or Jess you know, won her race, 592 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: so it's like, oh, actually it's not that good, or 593 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: like not celebrating a success until I won a race, 594 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: and so that was definitely hard because I just never 595 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: felt worthy, never felt good enough, because you know, often 596 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: when someone's the best in their family and they're the 597 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: only one doing the sport and naturally feel like you're 598 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: good at something, right. But I just felt like, you know, 599 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: I was really slow to learn and really just didn't 600 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: get it like the rest of my family did. And 601 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't until yeah, twenty twenty one I kind of 602 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: really started doing the sport for me as opposed to 603 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: the results, and I realized I do enjoy it. I'm 604 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 1: not just doing it because I'm making the team. And 605 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, twenty twenty one, when Jess was selected to 606 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: the Olympics, it was like, well, obviously she's selected to 607 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: the Olympics. Yes, it sucks for me, but she is 608 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: the best one to represent the country. And that's the 609 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: reality of our sport. There's lots of world number ones 610 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: even that don't get to the Olympics because world number 611 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: two or world number three beat them at selections. So 612 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't the only one in that position. There were 613 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: people in worse positions that were world number one and 614 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: not going to the Games. I was world number thirteen 615 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: or world number ten. It's just that it's my sister 616 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: and I'm only watching her success. And you know those 617 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: emotions at the Olympics, they're also genuine because you just 618 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: want the best for her. And then I think, you know, 619 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: when twenty twenty, when ka cross kind of started to 620 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: become my main event, everyone was like, oh, you know, 621 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: you're so good at that. 622 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's your sport. 623 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: And I really like embraced that, and then Jess beat 624 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: me one day after like originally telling me that, it 625 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: was oh, you're good at this, this is your sport, 626 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: And when she beat me, I was like, I think 627 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: shoking even in this discipline. But you know, I think 628 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: so that was hot initially, but there's so much to 629 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: learn from her and you can't hate her. It's almost 630 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: infuriating how likable she is and how generous and humble 631 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 1: she is. And when my opportunity for the Olympics came up, 632 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, how can I help you? Like, 633 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: I really want to help you get there. And I 634 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: think the fact that she wasn't going to race that 635 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: race because like I said, she had a quota to 636 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: her name, she wasn't eligible, it did really change our 637 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: dynamic because she just wanted to help me, not as 638 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: a competitive but as a teammate and as a training partner. 639 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think I'm so grateful for that whole 640 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: period of her helping me and the sparring partner, and 641 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: I at the end of the day, I knew that 642 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: if I didn't make the Games, like it's kind of 643 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: like a national duty, like I would go and help 644 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: her her partner, you know, like that's my role, is 645 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: a reserve. 646 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 4: And I think, you. 647 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: Know, I'm really drilled into the fact that it's trying 648 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: to get the best performance for our country and the 649 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: best boat there. And so when I qualified, and it 650 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: was you know, a lot of watching, like you said, 651 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: the first week of the Games, it was like pure 652 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: just joy to see her be the best and finally 653 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: get that gold and then everyone would be like, oh, 654 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're next, and you're going to have your 655 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: moment too. And I really didn't feel the pressure of 656 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, being the next Fox and being the little sister, 657 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: and like I've previously felt like, I really didn't want 658 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, no, one look at me like 659 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: this is scary. Everyone thinks I'm gonna win all everyone 660 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: thinks I'm as good as Jess, and I'm not like 661 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: previously I really felt that, but here it was like 662 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: holy hell, like I've waited so long to have my moment, 663 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm so ready to be here, like finally, like I 664 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: just felt so naturally there, like I've earned my spot, 665 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: I own this moment. I deserve to be here, essentially, 666 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: And when we were in the same heat, that was 667 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: quite hard because I didn't want her to beat me. 668 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: I also didn't want to knock her out, and there 669 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: was that feeling of like the media manifested this. All 670 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: they were asking us was like, you know what's gonna 671 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: happen when you verse each other. So it really felt 672 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: unlucky for us to be together that early on, because 673 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: it would have meant that we would have always been 674 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: moving and progressing together and eventually knocking each other out. 675 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: And so I decided to, you know, race my own race, 676 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: so did she, and I just got out first and 677 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: left in front, and she got really affected by the 678 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: to her left. They just their strategy was actually, in hindsight, 679 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: we realized, was just to block Jess. And so Jess 680 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: got blocked at the Star, she hit it up behind 681 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: and I just got let out and when I saw 682 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: her at the end not come out behind me, like 683 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: initially it was it was like no, like in my 684 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: head we were going to be one two and progressing through. 685 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: And so that was quite an initial moment of like, 686 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: I think the true colors were like crap, like she's 687 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: not going through. 688 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 4: That's like devastating. 689 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: But then it was quickly, you know, turned to Okay, 690 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: well she's just supporting me and and you know she's 691 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: got two golds, so she's not. 692 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, she's not badly done. 693 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: But she was extremely upset, and I think the narrative 694 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: then shifted for a lot of Australia, the focus not 695 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: being like, oh, it's just going to get the triple, 696 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: but okay, well now Nami's here, maybe she can be 697 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: the one to get the gold. And yeah, it was 698 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: hard initially, but I think in hindsight it's like, well, 699 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: then she was there to support me the whole way 700 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: and it was a really beautiful kind of ending to 701 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: the story. But yeah, and even now, you know, we 702 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: kind of pushed together as the Fox sisters and it's beautiful, 703 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: it's amazing. 704 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: But a lot of the. 705 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: Interviews, you know, they'd be like oh, Oka, Nwaymi we'll 706 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: just wait until Jess comes. And I'm like, well, I'm 707 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: an individual gold medalist as well, you know. So there's 708 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: that element of like, okay, well you come get me on. 709 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 4: Jess is ready, but you won't see her. She is 710 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: very busy. 711 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: So it's also like even now, there's so much beauty 712 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: in our story as sisters, as competitors, but it's also like, well, 713 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: we both are individual gold medalists, just as a triple 714 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: individual gold medalist, I'm the first individual gold medalist in 715 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: kaite cross, And so there's that element of like, we 716 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: also need to celebrate our individual success. And I don't 717 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: want her to, you know, just do things with me. 718 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: And I don't want to still be put in the 719 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: same basket as her little sister, you know. And and 720 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's still something we're working towards now. But 721 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: it was just so magical and beautiful to see Jess 722 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: win and then for me to finally have my moment 723 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: and for her to be there for me, like it 724 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: was just all too good to be true, you know. 725 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, still pinching myself, still checking my metal. It's 726 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: in the box, it's all real, like it all happened. 727 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 2: Just holding it all day. I mean, I love. 728 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 3: That it worked out that you did get to have 729 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: this beautiful time of that event being truly yours and 730 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: from early on, like early in the heat, so that 731 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 3: then you could have for once it could be your 732 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 3: sister supporting you and your family is supporting you and 733 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 3: not having like a split focus. And I mean, I 734 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 3: did love that at one point the Fox family as 735 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 3: a collective was like on the metal tally ahead of 736 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 3: most of the countries inhead of Brazil. 737 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 4: At one point. 738 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so good. 739 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: Oh, but you mentioned a couple of times, like one 740 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 3: of the things that is beautiful about the fact that 741 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 3: now social media allows so much more access to the 742 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 3: behind the scenes of things like the Olympics was seeing 743 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: the village and the fact that you guys weren't in 744 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 3: the village with you know, like the games were sort 745 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 3: of spread out in lots of different parts of France, 746 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 3: but you guys were living in this incredible like tell 747 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 3: us about the. 748 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,359 Speaker 2: Complex that you had had like a miniversi. It was insane. 749 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you know, that's also one of 750 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: the things that just massively contributed to the gratitude of 751 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: being there and being in the best possible, you know, accommodation. Ever, 752 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: so that was a subsite that was really close to 753 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: VEVs Ormond, which is where we competed, and so we 754 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: were there with the rowers and the canoe sprint team, 755 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: and we decided to be there two years ago because 756 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: from a performance point of view, commuting like an hour 757 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: and twenty minutes on a good traffic day would have 758 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: been just too hard. And there were days laid out 759 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: where we would have a training session in the morning, 760 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: we could go back and then we could go to 761 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: the race and a lot of people would just stay 762 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,800 Speaker 1: at the course all day. The courses like heavy concrete, 763 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: heavy exposure to you know, lots of different stimuli, crowd, heat, noise, 764 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: you know, pressure media. So so grateful to have like 765 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: our little oasis. And it was a full bridge set. 766 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 2: It looked like a retreat. 767 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: It was a retreat, and it was just so incredible 768 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: and beautiful and and you know, sometimes we felt bad 769 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: because like all the media is seeing is like cardboard 770 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: beds and we've got you know, comfy beds and great 771 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: food and beautiful decorations. 772 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask what were your beds like? 773 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: Did you have like totally different merch and beds and like, 774 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 3: was everything really different? 775 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 4: No, so they made it very Olympic. 776 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: Ye, they put on the same douna that there's in 777 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: Olympic Village. So we still had our twenty twenty four 778 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: and it was decked out with you know, green and 779 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: gold and that was funny to see like, you know, 780 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: green and gold decorations next to beautiful like Louis fourteen, 781 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: just portraits and gold ornamented things, and yeah, it was 782 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: so funny. And also just to see like all these yellow, 783 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: fluo yellow tracksuits just sitting in beautiful like living space 784 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: areas where normally you'd be like really upright. 785 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 4: And having like a cup of tea, and we were 786 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: all just theres. 787 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 1: Gosh. 788 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 4: But it was one of. 789 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: Those things where you'll look back in ten years and 790 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, like just. 791 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 4: The perfect Olympics. 792 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: Really, like in that sense, it was so beautiful that 793 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: all the bad things, like all the pressure or all 794 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: the you know, little body twinges where you're like, oh gosh, 795 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: am I injured, or you know, all just the negative 796 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: things that could cloud in all the campaign, they just 797 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: were flushed down the toilet directly because there was so 798 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: much good and gratitude and like things to look forward 799 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: to that just overpowered everything really, So yeah, it was 800 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: a very positive vibe and bubble that really carried us through. 801 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: And I really miss my rowing teammates and my own housemates. 802 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh god, you know what, I can't go 803 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: back to living or by myself. 804 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 4: This is really. 805 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 806 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 3: I was going to say that calm down must be crazy, 807 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 3: but before we move on to sort of coming back home, 808 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 3: I forget that, like you guys, we watched the race, 809 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 3: and I was mentioned to you that Teddy's been keeping 810 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 3: me up a lot lately, so it was really easy 811 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 3: to watch your race and then watching you do the 812 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 3: role and I'm getting out of it, like you didn't 813 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 3: start in front. 814 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god. It was just so magical. 815 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 3: But I think it's easy to forget that you guys 816 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,879 Speaker 3: were living like in a house, and that you had 817 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 3: to eat and that you had to train, and that 818 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: like you had recovery. So when you were living this 819 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 3: bridget in life, like what were you was there like 820 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 3: a buffet? Did you have a training facility that was 821 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 3: separate to where you raced? Like how was your life 822 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 3: in like exact for example, the day before your race, 823 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: were you like throwing up from nerves? 824 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,319 Speaker 2: Were you just hanging out? Do you watch TV? Like 825 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 2: what do you. 826 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: Eat in the day in the life. 827 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well what was cool was. 828 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,520 Speaker 1: That it was quite a relaxed morning. So the day 829 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: before my race, I could train, so I trained in 830 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 1: the morning, so I had. I find it hard to 831 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: to have breakfast before training. I think it's also the nerves, 832 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: like I feel like things can easily come back up, 833 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: so just have like, you know those And I went 834 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: straight past the breakfast buffet of you know, beautiful just 835 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of foods. I normally have avocado toast every morning, 836 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: but then there was just fresh crepes every day, and 837 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: I didn't have those until the last day. I was like, 838 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: right after my racing, I'll enjoy those things. But otherwise, 839 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: you know, av a toast, and there was kind of 840 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: your standard breakfast buffet essentially, just in a beautiful location. 841 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, I'm so embarrassed 842 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: that I have the most beautiful foods in front of 843 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,319 Speaker 1: me and I'm having plain pastime and yet you know, 844 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: like but it's all I could stomach, really, And yeah, 845 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,320 Speaker 1: just kind of being in that sort. 846 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 4: Of safe place. 847 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 1: It was our safe space and oasis, and it was 848 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: just so special to kind of have that retreat. 849 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,280 Speaker 3: So obviously Jess was there with you, and your mum's 850 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 3: your coach, and your dad is also a formal world champ, 851 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 3: so it was your family. Like did they stay nearby 852 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 3: or were they on site? 853 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 2: How did that all work? 854 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, so my dad was commentating, so he was in 855 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: his own external basically accommodation. And funny fact is like, 856 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: mum is not my coach for kaya cross, she's Jess's 857 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: coach for slalom, and Jess's coach for kayak cross and 858 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,760 Speaker 1: my coach for slalom. Oh, your boyfriend kai a kayak 859 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: cross It's I know, I feel bad saying my boyfriend 860 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: because everyone's like, how can this be more family involved? Like, 861 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: but he is basically like a kayak cross expert, And 862 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,919 Speaker 1: so when it came time to preparing for my quota qualification, 863 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: they were all in Paris for a training camp, so 864 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: I basically brought him on as the kaya cross coach 865 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: for me because they were all Jess was going to 866 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: be in Paris with mom, and I was like, well, 867 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: he's the best person to help me. Prepare also for such, 868 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: you know, a high pressure event emotionally as well. So 869 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: he was there for all the kayakers going for that quota. 870 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: And then the deal was, well, if I made the quota, 871 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: then he would come with me to the Olympics as 872 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: my coach. And so we made the quota, and yeah, 873 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: he came for Australia as a coach. And he had 874 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: previously done Tokyo coaching an athlete that he followed for 875 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: four years, which was for Team Morocco, and so. 876 00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 4: Now he was for Team in Australia. 877 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: So it was kind of hard for him though, because 878 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 1: he had to give up his primary role, which is 879 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: under twenty three coach, and so he couldn't go and 880 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: follow the under twenty three World Championships because there was 881 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: a clash with Paris. But he was incredible and it 882 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: was amazing to have him there because he's so calm, 883 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: and there was this element of like just simplifying the 884 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 1: whole process of and I guess, simplifying how stressful the 885 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 1: Olympic Games are. So it was amazing to have him 886 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: there to you know, just share everything together as well, 887 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: because it's hard to explain what you're going through to 888 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: someone you know that's not there. You're like, this is 889 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: changing my life. But when they're there, it's just you know, 890 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: it's so much easier to for them to understand what 891 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: you're going through and what you need in terms of 892 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: support as well. So but he poor thing is getting 893 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: he's getting removed from all the photos of like, you know, 894 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: jumping in and just suming on Jess and I and 895 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 1: block him out, just full inside joke of like he's 896 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 1: been removed from the narrative, but he's still. 897 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 4: On the coach. 898 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: You know, we know who he is. And he had 899 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: a great experience too. 900 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I love that. So many people like never 901 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 3: work with family, it will never work out, and you guys. 902 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,360 Speaker 2: Have just made it work so beautifully. 903 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: It was a fear that we had to be like, Okay, 904 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: well he is the best person for this job, you know, objectively, 905 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: and there was that element of like, oh what if 906 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: we end up, you know, just hating each other, and 907 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: also being like I'm so like, you're just annoying me, 908 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: Like just get away from it. 909 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 4: You like, you don't know how it's gonna work out. 910 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 1: But he's so calm, he's there to help me, and 911 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: I think you know, there was a really great mutual 912 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: respect and just you know, simplifying the whole thing. I 913 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 1: think I really needed that. You know, he's so calm, 914 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: so chill, and it just made that whole experience so 915 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: much easier. And it wasn't until the final where he 916 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: kind of broke character where he was like, oh my god, 917 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,319 Speaker 1: we're here, like you made the Olympic Final, like go 918 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 1: out enjoy it. 919 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 4: Like he fully broke. 920 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: His character of being like, you know, very process driven, calm, 921 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: like this is your strategy, and he was like. 922 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 4: Oh my god, like we're here. And so that was 923 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,280 Speaker 4: actually a beautiful. 924 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: Moment to kind of yeah, realize, wow, we're here, like 925 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: we're in the final, like go out and enjoy it. 926 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 5: Gosh, oh how special. 927 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 3: I want to talk about coming home and then like regrouping. 928 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 3: And I think one thing that's really hard when in 929 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 3: the context of like seizing your yeah, is that when 930 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 3: you get your yay, it's sort of like, oh my god, 931 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 3: I didn't think about what comes after that and then 932 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 3: the next ya and like will anything ever compare to that? 933 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 3: And all that kind of being and preparing for twenty 934 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 3: twenty eight and that stuff. But first, a big part 935 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 3: of the show. Is also your identity outside of the 936 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 3: thing that becomes what you're known for. And you know, 937 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 3: you're synonymous with the Olympics and sport and your family 938 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,920 Speaker 3: name is so ingrained in the Olympic dream. But was 939 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 3: there ever a moment where you thought about doing anything else? 940 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 3: Like you mentioned before that when you knew you couldn't 941 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 3: make the Olympics, that you did go and study and 942 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 3: you did sort of pursuits that were completely separate that 943 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 3: helped you grow a sense of self worth that wasn't 944 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 3: so tied up in what you've now been able to achieve, 945 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 3: Like even trying to find information on you at Blaxland 946 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 3: High and like your first part time jobs, there's just 947 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: no literature on who you are outside of this sport, 948 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 3: And so who is that person and who was she? 949 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 3: Just up until you know, like July, when suddenly it 950 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 3: was like you are going to be the embodiment of 951 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 3: your Like, you know, who's Noemi outside of that? 952 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: I love this question because for me, it's like kayaking 953 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: is just half of who I am, you know, and 954 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: now it's like, yeah, and now it's just who I'm 955 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,439 Speaker 1: known as and what I'm known for. 956 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 4: But I think I've always really been an. 957 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: Advocate for the double project, to have that sense of balance, 958 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: to have that identity that's not just linked to a 959 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: result or kayaking, because that can be really hard when 960 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: you're just constantly getting yeah, tenth places, fifteenth places, You're like, 961 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 1: what am I doing with my life? And I'm very 962 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 1: career driven, so I've always had to feel like I'm 963 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: still moving forward. But I actually worked full time up 964 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 1: until May of this year. 965 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,080 Speaker 2: That is so wild. I bet people have no idea. 966 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 1: I know, well, we're a small sport. 967 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 968 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: So I did a Bachelor of Media and Comms and 969 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: then at Sydney Union and I finished that and I thought, 970 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I have no hard skills. I just 971 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: have soft skills, Like what can I actually do with this? 972 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: And so I went on to do a Masters of 973 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 1: Management to kind of get into consulting. And in twenty twenty, 974 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 1: during COVID, I did an internship in Geneva and I 975 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: worked for Locks of Time, the hand company cream and 976 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 1: oh my, that was the best, apart from the Olympics, 977 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: one of the best experiences of my life. Because I 978 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: was working full time, I was living in Switzerland, I 979 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: could go skiing, and I felt like I kind of 980 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: had a glimpse of, you know, normal life and what 981 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: other incredible adventures like can have install for me aside 982 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: from kayaking. And that was honestly one of the most 983 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,280 Speaker 1: beautiful adventures of my life. But then I did miss 984 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,080 Speaker 1: kayaking and I didn't want to just work full time. 985 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: They offered me a role, but I wasn't ready to 986 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: go in full time, and then went back home and 987 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,839 Speaker 1: finish my masters and then started working in consulting at 988 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: Accenture and worked on a Pinterest project for two years, 989 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 1: which was also fine and amazing. And when I was overseas, 990 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: I could work part time. And so a lot of 991 00:47:58,160 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 1: the kayakers they see me as the one that you know, 992 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: works and the one that is always you know, on 993 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: her computer and busy, and I say, notice so many 994 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 1: things because I would be working or running off after sessions. 995 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 1: I can't go to those coffee dates that last three 996 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: hours because they don't really have places to be in 997 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: between sessions, because I'd be on zoom meetings. 998 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 2: And corporate guys. 999 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: I was a corporate girl, and so I loved that 1000 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: sort of yeah, the balance of being in the corporate 1001 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: world and being in the corporate world known for being, 1002 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: you know, an athlete, but in the athlete world being 1003 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: known for being having a real girl job, you know, 1004 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,439 Speaker 1: a big, big girl job. 1005 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 4: And yeah, I really. 1006 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 1: Loved that sort of sense of balance but had to 1007 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: give it up to really just dive deep for the 1008 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: Olympic dream. But it is something that now I'm like 1009 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 1: home and I'm finishing my sessions and I'm not running 1010 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 1: off to a nine to ten stand up or and 1011 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh God, like what am I doing? 1012 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 4: Like should I be going back to work? 1013 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: And I do want to go back into you know, 1014 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,760 Speaker 1: the business world, because I love I mean, I've got experience, 1015 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: I've got degrees, Like I'm not just going to be 1016 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: traveling the world with my kayak, like I still want 1017 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,440 Speaker 1: to be moving forward in my career in business or 1018 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,279 Speaker 1: consulting or. 1019 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 4: Who knows what. 1020 00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, so both definitely really fueled me and a 1021 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,399 Speaker 1: big part of who I am. And I think everyone's like, oh, 1022 00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: now that you've won, you know, you're set up for life, 1023 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I'm back home living with my 1024 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: parents right now. I car won't start. It's a two 1025 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 1: door cut loud, Like, you know, I feel like we're 1026 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: back to square one and my life has not changed. 1027 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 3: So I love that you're a big proponent of the 1028 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 3: double project because I think that people would not believe 1029 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 3: that a gold medallist at the Olympics could have just 1030 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 3: two months before the Olympics began been working full time 1031 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 3: at a corporate job, and that that could fulfill both 1032 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,479 Speaker 3: sides of your personality. Like I think we all think 1033 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 3: that we have to be one thing or another and 1034 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 3: that that's our title and that's the entirety of who 1035 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 3: we are. You're such a great example that you can 1036 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 3: pull fulfillment from lots of different things and like design 1037 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 3: a life that allows you it's not all or nothing. 1038 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 3: You can you don't have to choose, like maybe for 1039 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,879 Speaker 3: short periods of time you're in the Olympics while you're 1040 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,959 Speaker 3: in it, but then yeah, you come home. I mean 1041 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 3: that's sort of like the perfect way to finish is 1042 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 3: you came off the plane in your green and gold 1043 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 3: and there's this beautiful overlaid video. 1044 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 2: I get goosebumps. 1045 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 3: I watched your race again and I watched that video 1046 00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 3: again of you and just getting off the plane and 1047 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 3: like getting the signatures of all the athletes when you 1048 00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 3: were little, and then YouTube being the athletes getting off 1049 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,360 Speaker 3: the plane, and it just makes me so emotional. Now 1050 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 3: it's sort of like I think a lot of people 1051 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 3: are like, Okay, well I've hit the highest high. 1052 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 2: What's the meaning of my life? 1053 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 1: Like? 1054 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 2: What is my yay? 1055 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 4: Now? 1056 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 3: What is success? Are you going straight back to? Like 1057 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 3: what's my next Olympics campaign? I love that you've gone 1058 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 3: back to your parents' place and you're like, hey, I'm 1059 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 3: just limit at home with Miriam. 1060 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, what's the next chapter? 1061 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's interesting because before coming home, everyone was like, oh, 1062 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,480 Speaker 1: you know the Olympic blues, the post Olympic blues, it's 1063 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: a thing. And the gold medal syndrome. Like three people 1064 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: sent me a link to what gold medal syndrome is 1065 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I won't feel a low, 1066 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: Like I'm so internally satisfied, but I do understand, you know, 1067 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: that sort of crash. You're in the Olympics and for 1068 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: three weeks, it's the most intense period of your life, 1069 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: and you've been working towards that one day, that one 1070 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 1: moment for four years, and when it does pay off 1071 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: and when you arrive physically ready, mentally ready, like that's 1072 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: all you can hope for as an athlete. And then 1073 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: it's such a huge reward that I've never experienced even 1074 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: one tenth of that level before. And it is overwhelming 1075 00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:47,879 Speaker 1: the amount of messages support you receive, seeing how many 1076 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: people were invested in your sport, Like it's so beautiful, 1077 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it's like it's quite overwhelming. 1078 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: And when you're back home and then it was a 1079 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: bit of media and last week it kind of came 1080 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 1: crashing down. You know, the body is like shutting down 1081 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 1: and you realize, wow, like that all happened. You're kind 1082 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: of just starting to process things and to you know, 1083 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: let yourself realize what you did and that you know, 1084 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,440 Speaker 1: everything was perfectly timed to that race. You know, I 1085 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,280 Speaker 1: came eighth that the world's fifth at the Olympic test event, 1086 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,600 Speaker 1: second at the Olympic qualifier, and then won the Olympics. 1087 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: So it's like I kind of that was the first 1088 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: moment where I let myself, you know, reflect on the journey. 1089 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: But I do see how it can be quite hard 1090 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 1: to you know, move on from that. Like I'm very 1091 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: much aware that that's probably the best thing I'll ever 1092 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: experience in life, and I know that LA will be 1093 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: different if I go, and if I get to go, 1094 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: We're racing in Oklahoma, which is two hours from LA. 1095 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 1: So it's also not Paris. It's not magical. There's no 1096 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 1: twinkling lights, and just internally proud of myself, satisfied taking 1097 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: that time to kind of really acknowledge and yeah, I 1098 00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: wrote everything down to kind of document that time of 1099 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: my life and be able to look back and whenever 1100 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: I need to to kind of get that motivation, and yeah, 1101 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just such a beautiful time in 1102 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 1: my life. And I'm also very aware that it's very 1103 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: much so like a unique sport, unique situation, unique moment 1104 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,600 Speaker 1: in time that will be you know, relishing and dreaming 1105 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: about forever, but not expecting to redo like I think 1106 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,240 Speaker 1: it was just we're aware that it was just magical. 1107 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a really complicated relationship with achieving a goal, 1108 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 3: I think because then sometimes you were to you're twenty seven, 1109 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 3: like you're not even at your thirtieth yet, and it's 1110 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 3: sort of like, how do I recalibrate my relationship with 1111 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,959 Speaker 3: goals and success and fulfillment and happiness and I think 1112 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,759 Speaker 3: people spend a lot of time striving for fighting the yea, 1113 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 3: but it's unusual to then find it really early and 1114 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 3: knock it out of the park and then be like, well, 1115 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 3: how do I rEFInd kind of a purpose now? And 1116 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 3: I love that you're letting yourself rest and just let 1117 00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 3: it all wash over you, because our tendency. 1118 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 2: Is fill the void, keep going, oh my god, what's. 1119 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,120 Speaker 3: The next big thing and acknowledging that it doesn't have 1120 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 3: to be big and better to be worthy, like it 1121 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 3: is so special and like also people forget you were 1122 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 3: born in France, so like it has this other layer 1123 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 3: as well. But it was about in Paris and like 1124 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 3: did you do any press in France when you were there? 1125 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,240 Speaker 3: Like were you doing French interviews and stuff? 1126 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,600 Speaker 1: I did a little bit, and I definitely get nervous, 1127 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm fully fluent, but I think I have less 1128 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: experience doing French media, so naturally when I'm speaking like 1129 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: formal French, I'm like, my brain's like, oh my god, 1130 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: what did you just say? You know, like going over everything. 1131 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: But it was so beautiful to have, you know, French 1132 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,520 Speaker 1: people attach themselves to us as well, and see, you know, 1133 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: in Marseille. There were a lot of articles about like 1134 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 1: li Maxie so. 1135 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 2: That masse born. 1136 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was so special to feel marseillespecially behind us, 1137 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 1: and to use that as like fuel and to share 1138 00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 1: that into Yeah, it was definitely super special. And when 1139 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: I was in the final, there was a French girl 1140 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:09,719 Speaker 1: and the cheer she got when we started, when we 1141 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,359 Speaker 1: were on the ramp was just amazing that I thought, Wow, 1142 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: how cool that, you know, we're both here, and I 1143 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,719 Speaker 1: just thought they'd be cheering for me as well. Maybe 1144 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: they were just cheering for her, but I was like, no, 1145 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 1: they were also cheering for me. So yeah, it was 1146 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: honestly a beautiful experience. And then to see, yeah, the volunteers, 1147 00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: because they knew we could speak French, they'd come up 1148 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 1: and they were also, you know, so proud. So it 1149 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 1: was really just a special moment. I'm lucky to have 1150 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: a lot of perspective in that sense, to know that 1151 00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: even if the media are like, oh, well she didn't win, 1152 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,560 Speaker 1: or like it's a failure or nothing, can she know 1153 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 1: she's you know, you don't know what they're capable of saying, 1154 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,800 Speaker 1: like I think she's speak too early, she's peak too early. 1155 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 2: It's like, that's so over the hill, babe? 1156 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 4: Was she really good? 1157 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 3: Like, well, I have like at least eight thousand other 1158 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 3: questions for you, but I have taken up so much 1159 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:07,600 Speaker 3: of your time. I am just so so happy and 1160 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 3: excited for you. And it means so much more to 1161 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 3: have met you before this and before it was even 1162 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 3: maybe even was it even before you knew. 1163 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: Received kaiking tips? 1164 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,160 Speaker 2: Yes, to have received oh my gosh, you got. I 1165 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 2: don't know if people on the show. I don't know 1166 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:24,440 Speaker 2: if I've spoken about it. 1167 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 3: But before I went to Antarctica, I had to practice 1168 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 3: a wet exit out of a career in case we 1169 00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 3: capsized obviously in Antarctic waters and you have like two 1170 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 3: and a half minutes or something to get out of 1171 00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,160 Speaker 3: the water. 1172 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 2: And I happened to have had Jess. 1173 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 3: On the podcast, and I think Nick was like, why 1174 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 3: don't you ask Jess if she would if we go 1175 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 3: to Sydney? 1176 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 2: I think we're going to be in Sydney. And then 1177 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 2: is it at the house you're at right now? 1178 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 1179 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,360 Speaker 4: Yah yeah, the pool? 1180 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there. 1181 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 3: I was going to go and get some tips from 1182 00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 3: Jess at Penrith where you train. 1183 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that was flooded or something something happened. 1184 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,399 Speaker 1: So we did it in the pool and I got 1185 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,760 Speaker 1: to meet the entire family and I got like, now. 1186 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 2: Three Olympic champions were giving me tips in a pool. 1187 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 3: Of how to flip a kayak, and so all three 1188 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,920 Speaker 3: of you were just like turning me upside down. And 1189 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,240 Speaker 3: to think of that day and now that you are 1190 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 3: your own Olympic gold medalist from your debut Olympics, like 1191 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 3: it just gives me goosebumps. 1192 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 5: I'm so excited for you, Philly. It's just like you 1193 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 5: should be. 1194 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I very rarely am speechless, but watching 1195 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 3: you win was just it's not all about winning, of course, 1196 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 3: but it was magical for me. I'm sure it was 1197 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 3: magical for the nation as well. To follow you guys, 1198 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 3: and I'm really pleased that you're not rushing on to 1199 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 3: necessarily be like what's the next Olympic campaign? But I 1200 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 3: also am excited to see where you go from here and. 1201 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:02,919 Speaker 2: Just so pleased for you all. 1202 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:04,200 Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much. 1203 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,480 Speaker 1: Ifever, I need a confidence foodstyle, just feel like, can 1204 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: I come on the podcast? 1205 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 3: Oh my god, please, you are welcome any time. We 1206 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,919 Speaker 3: need to do an episode two maybe when the dust 1207 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 3: settles a little bit. Also to follow up on like, yeah, 1208 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 3: how it feels in a watching back all the footage 1209 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 3: in a couple of months, and to get all like 1210 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 3: the other weird things that I haven't asked all the 1211 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 3: normal questions, like what are the weird things about you 1212 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,080 Speaker 3: that oh, okay, let's finish with that. What are the 1213 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 3: weird things about you that people who lived with you 1214 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 3: on site would know but no one else would, Like 1215 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,959 Speaker 3: do you sleep with your mouth open? Or like those 1216 00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,640 Speaker 3: quirky weird things about you that won't be in any 1217 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 3: other media. 1218 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: Like as in at home, because I feel like the 1219 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: weirdest thing that really there's a lot of weird things 1220 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,040 Speaker 1: I can't think about them, But recently the weird thing 1221 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: was like what do you eat at night? 1222 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 4: And like, honestly, I'm such. 1223 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,600 Speaker 1: A lazy cook and for there was a period of 1224 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:04,040 Speaker 1: my life I would just like crave canned mushrooms and 1225 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: literally be fueled by like toafu and can. 1226 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 4: And tinned mushrooms. And I was like, that is so 1227 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 4: disgusting and weird. 1228 00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,920 Speaker 1: But it's like, I'm just such a lazy chef that 1229 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: I was so happy to for like honestly, probably a 1230 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: whole year just eat tofu and tinned mushrooms for dinner 1231 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: every single night. 1232 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,520 Speaker 3: So the collective French population are like absolutely dying right. 1233 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:32,280 Speaker 1: Now, I know, and you know, coming from the chateau 1234 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,520 Speaker 1: now to have to like cook for myself, I think 1235 00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go back to that bad habit 1236 00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: of tinned mushrooms. They're waiting for me in the Woolworth's aisle, 1237 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 1: like myself at that moment, after living like a queen 1238 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,919 Speaker 1: and having buffet dinners every night. 1239 00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: You know, Oh that's so funny. 1240 00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 3: Are you superstitious? Was there anything you did every night? 1241 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:55,280 Speaker 3: Like do you wear the same undies? 1242 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,720 Speaker 1: Or like, I'm extremely superstitious and this could be a 1243 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: whole other, you know, podcast, but I definitely tried to 1244 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,320 Speaker 1: pull away from the superstitions. Like there was a period 1245 01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: where I didn't wear my mouthguard because I had three 1246 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: consecutive races where I wore it in the semi finals 1247 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: and didn't progress, and so my stuff, I just was like, look, 1248 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 1: your performance isn't linked to your mouthguard, and I was like. 1249 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 2: It is, and your teeth need protecting. 1250 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: You'd rather have your two front teeth and so I 1251 01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 1: had to you know, wear it in training and then 1252 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,040 Speaker 1: I wore it throughout the whole race. But definitely superstitious. 1253 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 1: I have a lot of little rituals. I have actually, 1254 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 1: like these little rocks that I raced with that were 1255 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 1: like my good luck rocks. 1256 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,320 Speaker 4: One of them is, oh my god, it's honestly, this 1257 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 4: is the week thing. 1258 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: But like one of them is like a woman in 1259 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, when I was going through like a 1260 01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, a crisis and didn't know if I wanted 1261 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,960 Speaker 1: to race. The day of the race, she came up 1262 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: to me and she's like, I have a rock for you, 1263 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,480 Speaker 1: and she painted this little fox and this rock and 1264 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, like. 1265 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 4: Why am I crying? 1266 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: But I used that as like a good luck, little 1267 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,840 Speaker 1: token and I made the final that day, which was 1268 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 1: a huge personal achievement, and I kept that rock and 1269 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: the only time I used it next was at the 1270 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Olympic quota race and I put it, you know, in 1271 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 1: my sports bra, and. 1272 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 4: I had that with me the whole race. 1273 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: And what was really beautiful about that whole experience was 1274 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 1: that we didn't touch on it. And it's a whole 1275 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 1: other episode as well, but my grandpa passed away the 1276 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 1: day that I qualified, and he heard that I had 1277 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,880 Speaker 1: all found and it was my Grandpa Fox. And that 1278 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: full week of competition, I had my little Fox stone 1279 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,960 Speaker 1: with me, so I was like, wow, he he got 1280 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 1: me through, you know. And then in Paris I went 1281 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: to the memorial in the village and I collected one 1282 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: rock for my grandpa from France that would also be 1283 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: in the stands, and one rock for my grandpa Fox, 1284 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 1: and then I had my also my lucky rock. 1285 01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 4: For the Fox. 1286 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 1: I had three freaking stone in my sports brother I 1287 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: need for every single run. And there was a race 1288 01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:08,120 Speaker 1: when I was getting ready and I've realized I forgot them. 1289 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:12,800 Speaker 1: I ran back and my coach partner was like White, 1290 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: like what did you forget? And I was like, oh 1291 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:15,760 Speaker 1: my god, I forgot my stones and he's like, oh. 1292 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 2: My god, my pet rocks. 1293 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 1: Forgot my rocks, and so I ran back and I 1294 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,320 Speaker 1: had my rocks, and so yeah, I had them with 1295 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: me every single run. And I was like, I can't 1296 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: really attribute my success to these three little pebbles, but 1297 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I also can. 1298 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 4: So I am very. 1299 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 1: And like you know, manifesting and any sort of you know, 1300 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: I have like the im app that gives you notifications 1301 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,880 Speaker 1: and affirmations, so honestly, you kind of need it to 1302 01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,720 Speaker 1: top up the can and to make yourself feel like, 1303 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, you're on, You've got the good jujo around you, 1304 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 1: you're on the good vibes and and that things will 1305 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,840 Speaker 1: just go your way. And so definitely superstitious, but trying 1306 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 1: not to be superstitious to the point of not wearing 1307 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 1: my mouthguard. So I'm glad I outgrew that option. 1308 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 3: But next minute the Daily Mail comes out with like, 1309 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 3: Miami Fox has five nipples because the pebbles are like 1310 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,680 Speaker 3: coming through your sports and everyone's like, what of those. 1311 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 4: Like you? 1312 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 2: They're flicking off everywhere. 1313 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 1: My rocks were flying everywhere, and like the two yels like, I'm. 1314 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:26,400 Speaker 3: Sure every athlete has something. 1315 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, your power to get you through in the little 1316 01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: magic and it's amazing to see the magic and let 1317 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:29,720 Speaker 1: that carry you to you. 1318 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 2: Know, oh so beautiful. 1319 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 3: Well, to finish up, do you have a favorite quote 1320 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,280 Speaker 3: that's stuck with you or that you sort of say to. 1321 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 2: Yourself or that you want to share with everyone else. 1322 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 4: I've got lots of. 1323 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 1: Quotes, but one of my favorite one is from Venus Williams. 1324 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: Also a little sister and she's like, you have to 1325 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,760 Speaker 1: believe in yourself. Even if you don't pretend you do it, 1326 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 1: eventually you will. And I feel like that's just a 1327 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,919 Speaker 1: quote that, you know, definitely kind of carried me through, 1328 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 1: not bluffet with confidence, but just kind of back yourself. 1329 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,480 Speaker 1: Even if you don't feel like you're capable, You've got 1330 01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: to believe that you can do it. And then you 1331 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 1: start to prove to yourself that low, I can do this, 1332 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: and that's one of the most beautiful things in life. 1333 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely that was the mentality going into the games. 1334 01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Any sort of imposter syndrome, any sort of doubt, it 1335 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: was all like, you know, no, you're meant to be here. 1336 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: You've got to believe in yourself. You've got to back yourself. 1337 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: Don't let this opportunity go to waste. You know you 1338 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: can do this. And so that's definitely a little sister 1339 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:30,320 Speaker 1: quote that definitely, Oh, well, you have. 1340 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,000 Speaker 3: Well and truly proven that you deserve to be there. 1341 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,520 Speaker 3: I'm just so happy for you. Thank you so much 1342 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,480 Speaker 3: for your time. 1343 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 1344 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 3: I don't know about you guys, but I think Noomi 1345 01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 3: is one of the most well adjusted humans I've had 1346 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 3: the pleasure of chatting with. There is so much wisdom 1347 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,880 Speaker 3: to take away. I was furiously writing mental notes as 1348 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 3: we were chatting, and of course went over time. 1349 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,600 Speaker 2: Because I was just so captivated by her. 1350 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,360 Speaker 3: Please send her some love and congratulations if you enjoyed 1351 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 3: listening along tagging at Underscore Noemi Fox and us to 1352 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 3: help uspread the neighborhood as far and wide as possible. 1353 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 3: We have some very exciting things and guests in the 1354 01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,000 Speaker 3: works at the moment, slowly getting back into the swing 1355 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,080 Speaker 3: of our yay, so lots to come. Stay tuned for 1356 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 3: all that, and in the meantime, I hope you are 1357 01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:29,680 Speaker 3: all having an amazing week and seizing your yay