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Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mea podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on. Hey friends, it's Maya.

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Speaker 2: If you enjoyed the episode that I did of No

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Speaker 2: Filter earlier this week about Hannah Nielman, who is the

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Speaker 2: ballerina from Ballerina Farm, it was an interview with a

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Speaker 2: woman called Megan Agnew who had gone visited Hannah Nielman

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Speaker 2: on her farm and spent a day with her and

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Speaker 2: wrote a profile for the Sunday Times in the UK. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: if you were interested in that, which a lot of

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Speaker 2: people were, I thought you might like this extra episode

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Speaker 2: of another Mama Maya podcast called Canceled. It's very different

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Speaker 2: to the one that you heard me do earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week, even though it is also about Ballerina Farm.

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Speaker 2: They did this episode a couple of weeks ago and

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Speaker 2: it made me laugh so much because Canceled is a

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Speaker 2: comedy podcast. It's about cancel culture, but it's very very funny,

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Speaker 2: and the name of the episode is Ballerina Farm. A

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Speaker 2: Secret at a Rule and a Shit Birthday Present. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: Claire and Jesse Stevens and Canceled.

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Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to Canceled, the podcast that looks at

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Speaker 3: silly celebrity crimes and assigns charges and sentences so that

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Speaker 3: we can all move on with our lives. I'm Jesse

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Speaker 3: Stephens and I am joined by Claire Stephens, and today

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Speaker 3: we're talking about Ballerina Farm.

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Speaker 1: Here on the farm, the hens are laying eggs again

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Speaker 1: using the winter they take a couple months off when

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Speaker 1: it gets dark early. Today was a beautiful but very

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Speaker 3: The viewing up motherhood and bringing them to the earth

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Speaker 3: is the most empowering. You have insisted on this for

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Speaker 3: a week after a week after week. You've resisted, and

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Speaker 3: I've resisted saying I forget what it is. I think

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Speaker 3: it is obviously canceled. She Hannah Nielman.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing is that I am using Ballerina

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Speaker 3: Farm as a synonymously with Hannah Nielman, which is wrong.

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Speaker 3: I will elaborate on why. Look For some the phrase

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Speaker 3: Ballerina farm may contra up images of farming ballerinas. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what I picture, milking them, having them breed and

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Speaker 3: pirouetting while potentially laying eggs. I know, see I see

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Speaker 3: someone in a two to in hay, Oh wow, what

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Speaker 3: I see mister branding opportunity there and we'll get into this,

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Speaker 3: but not enough ballet. Look in some ways this ballerina

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Speaker 3: has laid eggs, but I DIGRESSA Ballerina farm refers to

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Speaker 3: the farm and social media handle of influencer Hannah Nielman.

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Speaker 3: Nilman was born in June nineteen ninety. Okay, so she's

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Speaker 3: like our age, see months older than us, but unlike you.

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Speaker 3: She has nine point eight million followers on TikTok, ten

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Speaker 3: million followers on Instagram, and eight children, none of whom

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Speaker 3: seem to have a ponchent for hot chips. Both our

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Speaker 3: babies really like odd chips. Her eldest is twelve and

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Speaker 3: her youngest is one month younger than Matilda, your little gil. Okay,

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Speaker 3: that's a lot of babies in quick succession. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: what's eight times nine? I love? I think it's in

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Speaker 3: many years of their lives they've spent pregnant. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: what's eight? Eight times nine too many? Yeah, maybe like six.

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Speaker 3: So how old is your baby again? Nine months? Okay,

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Speaker 3: nine months? Interesting because Hannah Nielman, in an interview that

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Speaker 3: Hannah Nenielman's babies are nine months old, she has this

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Speaker 3: I have no money, I have no ballerina farm, I

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Speaker 3: have no time. Haters will say I've got a work.

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Speaker 3: Haters do say that. Nielman grew up in a Mormon

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Speaker 3: Slush got in in the movie Save the Last Dance?

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Speaker 3: I think she did very classical ballet, because if you

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Speaker 3: My structure for today is as follows, Missus World competition,

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Speaker 3: I'm right, I'm hosting, I'm reading. I researched, so you

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Speaker 3: Pip pot down. In January of this year, a story

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Speaker 3: she gave birth two weeks ago. Now she's in a

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Speaker 3: beauty pageant. As I said, Claire, you and Hannah very

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Speaker 3: two weeks postpartum? Screaming, crying, leaking, leaking. We're from everywhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: concerns about vagina's falling out and but holes falling out.

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Speaker 3: You got your jelly tum tum afore mentioned. We did

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Speaker 3: a whole episode on it. You smell like a barn, Yes,

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Speaker 3: nobody will notice exactly. And then, as we've said, you

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Speaker 3: we know, beauty pageants are unnecessarily confusing. So Nielman's sash

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Speaker 3: fake tan, come on, make up bikinis, himsuits, enta and tar.

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Speaker 3: pageants promote unrealistic expectations of women. Yeah, and this is

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Speaker 3: What I consider myself a trad wife? Absolutely? Did I

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Speaker 3: putting my whole identity to a trad wife because I'd

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Speaker 3: be wildly disappointed pretending to be poor. Neilman lives on

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Speaker 3: Nielman is heir to a fortune of about four hundred

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Speaker 3: And I guess my point is, like, did Hannah Nielman

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Speaker 3: to that comly who wrote that article before she said

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Speaker 3: to feel tricked or to stop watching their content, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: The headline reads, Meet the Queen of the Tradwives and

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Speaker 3: from him, and Agnew writes she will not leave Nielman's

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Speaker 3: this is just brand extension. Love. This is why they

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Speaker 3: whole tension is that Agnew wants to get Nielman one

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Speaker 3: back to Juilliard for her ballerina ring and he is like, oh, what,

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Speaker 3: And I think so many women would say, yeah, that's

421
00:24:12,725 --> 00:24:15,525
Speaker 3: what happens. Yeah, that's what happens when you have kids.

422
00:24:15,605 --> 00:24:16,085
Speaker 3: Is it fair?

423
00:24:16,525 --> 00:24:16,725
Speaker 5: No?

424
00:24:17,605 --> 00:24:19,885
Speaker 3: Is it Hannah's fault? No? And I think what we

425
00:24:19,925 --> 00:24:23,885
Speaker 3: need to do is unpack the word choice. What is

426
00:24:23,925 --> 00:24:27,845
Speaker 3: a choice? Those choices that she made. Did she know

427
00:24:27,925 --> 00:24:30,485
Speaker 3: that that was gonna happen once she had kids? Is

428
00:24:30,525 --> 00:24:33,525
Speaker 3: she happy? Do we take her words at face value?

429
00:24:33,725 --> 00:24:36,885
Speaker 3: And a lot of people have a plan for their

430
00:24:36,885 --> 00:24:39,605
Speaker 3: life that doesn't pan out. Actually, pretty much everybody has

431
00:24:39,885 --> 00:24:41,445
Speaker 3: an idea. I don't want it to be a ballerina,

432
00:24:41,605 --> 00:24:46,445
Speaker 3: y me. Okay, I still want to be a arena.

433
00:24:46,965 --> 00:24:49,725
Speaker 3: I can't be because I've never done a ballet class.

434
00:24:50,085 --> 00:24:55,005
Speaker 3: I stretch often, and I can't nearly do the splits.

435
00:24:55,085 --> 00:24:55,165
Speaker 5: No.

436
00:24:55,685 --> 00:24:57,845
Speaker 3: I also I don't have the ankles for it. I've

437
00:24:57,845 --> 00:24:59,765
Speaker 3: got the out of their ankles of an elephant. I

438
00:24:59,765 --> 00:25:01,445
Speaker 3: would have loved to be. My husband tells me that,

439
00:25:01,485 --> 00:25:04,285
Speaker 3: which also not one of my goals to have a husband.

440
00:25:04,325 --> 00:25:05,885
Speaker 3: That tells me that I have the ankles of an elephant.

441
00:25:05,925 --> 00:25:08,645
Speaker 3: And if Agnew was in my house, she'd say, watch

442
00:25:08,645 --> 00:25:11,405
Speaker 3: out for him, and I'd say, I think he's fine. Yeah,

443
00:25:11,485 --> 00:25:14,525
Speaker 3: I think he's fine, and he's right. Look at them,

444
00:25:14,565 --> 00:25:16,725
Speaker 3: Look at them. They're horrible. They're not going to be

445
00:25:17,005 --> 00:25:20,245
Speaker 3: the ankles of ballerina. No I would. When I break

446
00:25:20,285 --> 00:25:22,325
Speaker 3: my leg, I went, I can't. I can't be a ballerina.

447
00:25:22,365 --> 00:25:27,445
Speaker 3: Now yeah was I thirty? Yeah, days it gone gone.

448
00:25:27,565 --> 00:25:29,925
Speaker 3: I'd never done a class. But sometimes our dreams are

449
00:25:30,005 --> 00:25:34,445
Speaker 3: dashed by injury times. I want to be an actress

450
00:25:34,765 --> 00:25:37,805
Speaker 3: or a singer yep. And I think there's something about

451
00:25:37,805 --> 00:25:41,085
Speaker 3: having kids that makes you go ooh, maybe that won't

452
00:25:41,125 --> 00:25:43,645
Speaker 3: come true. That ship has sailed, and something about being

453
00:25:43,725 --> 00:25:46,525
Speaker 3: nearly thirty four and not being able to sing. I

454
00:25:47,885 --> 00:25:51,005
Speaker 3: relate to all of this anyway. Daniel gets excited and

455
00:25:51,045 --> 00:25:54,005
Speaker 3: he keeps showing her the ditches, which is boring for everyone.

456
00:25:54,445 --> 00:25:56,925
Speaker 3: What are the ditches? The ditches like farm ditches. I

457
00:25:56,725 --> 00:26:01,285
Speaker 3: imagine them to be like trenches, like big holes of dirt.

458
00:26:01,885 --> 00:26:05,965
Speaker 3: For why. I guess, like I don't know what irrigation means,

459
00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:10,885
Speaker 3: but that like you know, on farms. How they need

460
00:26:10,925 --> 00:26:14,685
Speaker 3: to like put in poles. Yeah. This is the thing

461
00:26:14,725 --> 00:26:18,325
Speaker 3: about people who understand live on acres. They take you

462
00:26:18,365 --> 00:26:20,245
Speaker 3: around and they point to things and they say things,

463
00:26:20,285 --> 00:26:23,045
Speaker 3: and you just go that technology doesn't exist. I went

464
00:26:23,085 --> 00:26:24,925
Speaker 3: our friend who works on the farm. I went to

465
00:26:25,005 --> 00:26:27,205
Speaker 3: her hometown. Once she pointed out, I said, why is

466
00:26:27,325 --> 00:26:29,645
Speaker 3: that green? They have a green lawn. No one else

467
00:26:29,685 --> 00:26:31,725
Speaker 3: has a green lawnch She said something about it being

468
00:26:31,725 --> 00:26:35,765
Speaker 3: watered underneath. I was like, that's just sci fi shit.

469
00:26:36,725 --> 00:26:39,965
Speaker 3: So I think he's doing that from underneath in his ditches,

470
00:26:39,965 --> 00:26:43,045
Speaker 3: which is exciting for him. You know what, we never

471
00:26:43,125 --> 00:26:46,645
Speaker 3: find out, Not once in this article does she say

472
00:26:46,645 --> 00:26:51,525
Speaker 3: what's in the ditches? Maybe he's taking around I imagine

473
00:26:51,565 --> 00:26:54,165
Speaker 3: in a golf buggy, although that's not what she says,

474
00:26:54,245 --> 00:26:56,565
Speaker 3: because there's not enough attention paid to that. What if

475
00:26:56,605 --> 00:26:59,685
Speaker 3: there are bodies, this is where I bury the body.

476
00:26:59,725 --> 00:27:04,325
Speaker 3: And it's like, that's the story Agnew, not the ballet studio.

477
00:27:04,405 --> 00:27:07,685
Speaker 3: That didn't end up being what's in the ditches because

478
00:27:07,685 --> 00:27:10,565
Speaker 3: none of us understand how farms were. They get back

479
00:27:10,605 --> 00:27:13,645
Speaker 3: to the house and Agnew is like, ugh, the kids

480
00:27:13,685 --> 00:27:16,085
Speaker 3: are clattering near my tape recorder. And one is running

481
00:27:16,125 --> 00:27:19,565
Speaker 3: around with a chicken, like a roast chicken, and it's like, yeah,

482
00:27:19,565 --> 00:27:21,845
Speaker 3: have you met kids, there's always one with a chicken,

483
00:27:23,445 --> 00:27:26,525
Speaker 3: and they're always running around your tape recorder. Now, if

484
00:27:26,525 --> 00:27:30,365
Speaker 3: you have something valuable and precious, they're like this this one.

485
00:27:31,005 --> 00:27:34,205
Speaker 3: That's what they're like. This one. A few telling things.

486
00:27:34,725 --> 00:27:38,325
Speaker 3: Daniel says Hannah gets so exhausted that sometimes she doesn't

487
00:27:38,325 --> 00:27:40,285
Speaker 3: get out of bed for a week, which is the

488
00:27:40,325 --> 00:27:44,365
Speaker 3: most aspirational thing I've ever heard. How you're not getting

489
00:27:44,365 --> 00:27:45,765
Speaker 3: out of a bit of a week. Yeah, wait, how

490
00:27:45,805 --> 00:27:46,965
Speaker 3: does she not get out of bed for a week?

491
00:27:47,245 --> 00:27:47,325
Speaker 1: That?

492
00:27:47,365 --> 00:27:49,085
Speaker 3: If she's not allowed to have a nanny and there's

493
00:27:49,085 --> 00:27:52,125
Speaker 3: eight kids, I'm confused. I don't know if he was exaggerating.

494
00:27:52,325 --> 00:27:55,165
Speaker 3: Do they have family help? They are homeschooled like on

495
00:27:55,325 --> 00:27:58,645
Speaker 3: the thing, like by a teacher that comes in, But

496
00:27:58,725 --> 00:28:01,365
Speaker 3: I think the six month old is homeschooled. Yeah, so

497
00:28:01,405 --> 00:28:04,885
Speaker 3: I don't really understand. Also, she's had her babies without

498
00:28:04,885 --> 00:28:07,925
Speaker 3: pain relief. She says she's never liked taking it, except

499
00:28:08,005 --> 00:28:10,365
Speaker 3: one time Daniel step out of the room when she

500
00:28:10,445 --> 00:28:13,085
Speaker 3: was giving birth to little Martha. She was one of

501
00:28:13,085 --> 00:28:15,605
Speaker 3: the few babies that she had in hospital and she

502
00:28:15,685 --> 00:28:18,845
Speaker 3: had an epidural. She says it was great. This was

503
00:28:18,925 --> 00:28:21,645
Speaker 3: viewed by a lot of people as a red flag

504
00:28:21,685 --> 00:28:24,925
Speaker 3: because she kind of only said it when Daniel wasn't listening,

505
00:28:24,925 --> 00:28:26,405
Speaker 3: and it was like Daniel was kind of not there

506
00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:29,125
Speaker 3: when she got the epidural, and yeah, did kind of

507
00:28:29,125 --> 00:28:29,965
Speaker 3: look like a red flag.

508
00:28:30,205 --> 00:28:30,245
Speaker 5: Ugh.

509
00:28:30,725 --> 00:28:33,285
Speaker 3: Ugh, This is how Agnew closes the article. This is

510
00:28:33,285 --> 00:28:36,525
Speaker 3: a quote. I can't, it seems, get an answer out

511
00:28:36,565 --> 00:28:40,445
Speaker 3: of Nielman without her being corrected, interrupted, or answered for

512
00:28:40,685 --> 00:28:44,365
Speaker 3: by either her husband or a child. Usually I am

513
00:28:44,445 --> 00:28:48,165
Speaker 3: doing battle with steely Hollywood publicists today. I am up

514
00:28:48,205 --> 00:28:51,085
Speaker 3: against an army of toddlers who all want their mum,

515
00:28:51,245 --> 00:28:55,285
Speaker 3: and a husband who thinks he knows better may leave

516
00:28:55,325 --> 00:29:01,085
Speaker 3: the toddlers alone. Yeah. I remember being a kid, and

517
00:29:01,165 --> 00:29:03,045
Speaker 3: I cannot tell you how much I would have fucking

518
00:29:03,085 --> 00:29:05,645
Speaker 3: hated you in my house. Yeah. A reporter comes in

519
00:29:05,685 --> 00:29:09,885
Speaker 3: with a tape recorder and I want some raised chicken. Yeah, yeah,

520
00:29:09,885 --> 00:29:12,325
Speaker 3: from you're talking to my mom. Yeah, I need to

521
00:29:12,365 --> 00:29:15,605
Speaker 3: be in her lap. I need Mom needs me to

522
00:29:16,365 --> 00:29:18,645
Speaker 3: suck on her nose, yes, and to whisper in her

523
00:29:18,685 --> 00:29:21,965
Speaker 3: ear something nonsensical. I don't need that I don't need

524
00:29:22,005 --> 00:29:24,485
Speaker 3: what I am asking for, but I will suggest we

525
00:29:24,485 --> 00:29:28,485
Speaker 3: get McDonald's now because I find your presence intrusive. Right,

526
00:29:28,565 --> 00:29:30,845
Speaker 3: I'm not feeling safe with that said, I do want

527
00:29:30,885 --> 00:29:34,805
Speaker 3: to say this journalist, Megan Agnew, was the one who

528
00:29:34,885 --> 00:29:38,325
Speaker 3: was there, and if she picked up on certain vibes,

529
00:29:38,965 --> 00:29:42,685
Speaker 3: I am always going to advocate for her right to

530
00:29:42,805 --> 00:29:46,765
Speaker 3: share those vibes. You don't think that from the first sentence,

531
00:29:47,005 --> 00:29:50,365
Speaker 3: From the first I got there and Daniel was holding

532
00:29:50,365 --> 00:29:52,805
Speaker 3: the baby, and then he handed Hannah the baby and

533
00:29:52,885 --> 00:29:55,205
Speaker 3: she didn't put the baby four hours. She doesn't like him,

534
00:29:55,285 --> 00:29:58,445
Speaker 3: just like Daniel like him. I don't think she liked

535
00:29:58,485 --> 00:30:00,565
Speaker 3: Daniel even before she got there. I think that she

536
00:30:00,645 --> 00:30:04,285
Speaker 3: went all the way to Utah with a preconceived idea

537
00:30:04,285 --> 00:30:05,765
Speaker 3: of the story that she was going to get. She

538
00:30:05,885 --> 00:30:09,165
Speaker 3: had some judgment. She doesn't like the toddlers. You don't

539
00:30:09,165 --> 00:30:11,885
Speaker 3: know that. You don't know that. I had a feeling

540
00:30:11,925 --> 00:30:15,325
Speaker 3: you're reading it as though she wrote it in in

541
00:30:15,325 --> 00:30:18,405
Speaker 3: real time. But it's the snarkiness. I think that there

542
00:30:18,405 --> 00:30:21,205
Speaker 3: are certain sentences in the way, like the toddler thing,

543
00:30:21,765 --> 00:30:25,125
Speaker 3: you irritated by their sticky chicken fingers. Yeah, yeah, like,

544
00:30:25,205 --> 00:30:28,885
Speaker 3: I totally get that, but there are real points where like,

545
00:30:28,925 --> 00:30:33,125
Speaker 3: for example, the epgural thing brilliant, let it stand. But

546
00:30:33,565 --> 00:30:35,485
Speaker 3: my whole reading of it was if you want to

547
00:30:35,525 --> 00:30:37,525
Speaker 3: sit down with Nielman and have a really a one

548
00:30:37,565 --> 00:30:40,885
Speaker 3: on one conversation, because that what was agreed upon, you

549
00:30:40,965 --> 00:30:42,845
Speaker 3: need to advocate harder for that, because in all of it,

550
00:30:42,885 --> 00:30:44,925
Speaker 3: I couldn't work out when she said, hey, can I

551
00:30:44,965 --> 00:30:48,405
Speaker 3: have some time just us? I know what's happened. Daniel

552
00:30:48,725 --> 00:30:51,605
Speaker 3: thought she wanted to see Ballerina Farm. She thought Ballerina

553
00:30:51,645 --> 00:30:55,245
Speaker 3: fum was Hannah, Yeah, okay, And Daniel was like, I'm

554
00:30:55,245 --> 00:30:56,925
Speaker 3: going to show you the ditches and she was like,

555
00:30:57,325 --> 00:30:59,765
Speaker 3: that's not what I meant by Ballerina. He's like, Ballerina

556
00:30:59,805 --> 00:31:04,405
Speaker 3: Farm is an idea, yeah, and it's a it's like

557
00:31:04,445 --> 00:31:07,285
Speaker 3: an ecosystem, and it includes the children, and it includes me,

558
00:31:07,405 --> 00:31:10,125
Speaker 3: and it includes Hannah and it includes the ditch. Do

559
00:31:10,165 --> 00:31:12,525
Speaker 3: you want to see the barn? Yeah? And she's like,

560
00:31:12,605 --> 00:31:15,085
Speaker 3: I thought Ballerina Farm was just Hannah. Yeah. I just

561
00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:16,805
Speaker 3: wanted to speak to the other thing is I think

562
00:31:17,525 --> 00:31:20,725
Speaker 3: Megan was jet lagged. She was really tired, and she

563
00:31:20,805 --> 00:31:25,725
Speaker 3: turned up and she's like hmm, I wanted gossip, yeah

564
00:31:25,765 --> 00:31:28,165
Speaker 3: from this woman, and I was not, and there are

565
00:31:28,205 --> 00:31:31,605
Speaker 3: too many around. She even she makes a comment about

566
00:31:31,605 --> 00:31:34,965
Speaker 3: how Hannah calls them kiddos. She like puts it in

567
00:31:35,005 --> 00:31:38,245
Speaker 3: quotation marks, as though it's like weird, like I'm gonna

568
00:31:38,245 --> 00:31:39,885
Speaker 3: go and feed the kiddos, or she says something like that,

569
00:31:39,925 --> 00:31:42,525
Speaker 3: and I just went let her call them kiddos, just

570
00:31:42,525 --> 00:31:46,045
Speaker 3: gotta Sometimes you read interviews like that, you can see

571
00:31:46,045 --> 00:31:50,565
Speaker 3: how a person could watch anything unfold and put a

572
00:31:50,605 --> 00:31:52,805
Speaker 3: certain lens under the lens on it. Yeah, and even

573
00:31:52,845 --> 00:31:55,125
Speaker 3: the headline which was the Queen of the trad Wives,

574
00:31:55,165 --> 00:31:56,845
Speaker 3: and I understand how she can be viewed as that.

575
00:31:56,925 --> 00:32:00,565
Speaker 3: In the interview, Hannah says, I don't identify as a

576
00:32:00,565 --> 00:32:03,125
Speaker 3: trad wife, so that in itself is telling. So there

577
00:32:03,125 --> 00:32:06,045
Speaker 3: were two camps that came out after this Times piece

578
00:32:06,165 --> 00:32:09,325
Speaker 3: was released. The first said this woman is being manipula

579
00:32:09,565 --> 00:32:13,205
Speaker 3: and controlled by this Daniel character with his ditches and

580
00:32:13,285 --> 00:32:17,245
Speaker 3: his airline weasling. The other camp thought agnew went in

581
00:32:17,285 --> 00:32:19,485
Speaker 3: there with an agenda and if she wanted to speak

582
00:32:19,485 --> 00:32:22,285
Speaker 3: to Nielman, then ask Newlman if they can talk in

583
00:32:22,365 --> 00:32:24,925
Speaker 3: one of her barns or whatever if Neelman wants to

584
00:32:24,925 --> 00:32:27,325
Speaker 3: have three hundred babies and make sour dough in her

585
00:32:27,365 --> 00:32:29,645
Speaker 3: pot and cook chickens in her thirty thousand dollars stove,

586
00:32:29,925 --> 00:32:32,685
Speaker 3: which has a bit of ballet on insta, I personally

587
00:32:32,685 --> 00:32:36,165
Speaker 3: think absolutely fine, Me too, more ballet if anything? Yeah,

588
00:32:36,645 --> 00:32:39,805
Speaker 3: Nielman responded with a TikTok video. Here's what she said.

589
00:32:40,045 --> 00:32:42,565
Speaker 5: A couple of weeks ago, we had a reporter come

590
00:32:42,605 --> 00:32:46,205
Speaker 5: into her home to learn more about our family and business.

591
00:32:46,805 --> 00:32:50,005
Speaker 5: We thought the interview went really well, very similar to

592
00:32:50,045 --> 00:32:52,485
Speaker 5: the dozens of interviews we had done in recent memory.

593
00:32:54,005 --> 00:32:56,885
Speaker 5: We were taken back, however, when we saw the printed

594
00:32:57,005 --> 00:33:01,325
Speaker 5: article which sharked us and sharked the world by being

595
00:33:01,365 --> 00:33:05,325
Speaker 5: an attack on our family and my marriage, portraying me

596
00:33:05,405 --> 00:33:10,005
Speaker 5: as oppressed with my husband being the corporate This couldn't

597
00:33:10,005 --> 00:33:13,205
Speaker 5: be further from the truth. Nothing we said in the

598
00:33:13,245 --> 00:33:16,285
Speaker 5: interview implied this conclusion, which leads me to believe the

599
00:33:16,325 --> 00:33:21,405
Speaker 5: angle taken was predetermined. For Daniel and I. Our priority

600
00:33:21,405 --> 00:33:25,605
Speaker 5: in life is God and family. Everything else comes second.

601
00:33:26,565 --> 00:33:28,845
Speaker 5: The greatest day of my life was when Daniel and

602
00:33:28,885 --> 00:33:32,405
Speaker 5: I were married thirteen years ago. Together, we have built

603
00:33:32,405 --> 00:33:36,005
Speaker 5: a business from scratch. We've brought eight children into this

604
00:33:36,045 --> 00:33:40,045
Speaker 5: world and have prioritized our marriage all along the way.

605
00:33:40,565 --> 00:33:42,565
Speaker 3: You know what the weirdest thing is about that video?

606
00:33:42,965 --> 00:33:45,725
Speaker 3: At the bottom of it, it says participating in this

607
00:33:45,805 --> 00:33:49,205
Speaker 3: activity could result in you or others getting hurt. Is

608
00:33:49,205 --> 00:33:51,565
Speaker 3: that to do with the drink she's making she's drinking?

609
00:33:51,605 --> 00:33:56,965
Speaker 3: What looks like I thought, is that about participating in

610
00:33:57,005 --> 00:34:01,685
Speaker 3: a Times interview? Yeah, being married to Daniel, living on

611
00:34:01,725 --> 00:34:05,525
Speaker 3: a farm, on a farm, having a operating machinery, Because

612
00:34:05,525 --> 00:34:08,285
Speaker 3: I think in one bit she's probably operating machinery. Yeah,

613
00:34:08,325 --> 00:34:09,885
Speaker 3: but that's the kind of message you get when you

614
00:34:09,925 --> 00:34:13,005
Speaker 3: see two people doing like UFC fighting or something. No,

615
00:34:13,165 --> 00:34:15,405
Speaker 3: I think it's the drink. Why is it black? Why

616
00:34:15,525 --> 00:34:28,765
Speaker 3: is it dark? Lastly, the birthday present. Around the same

617
00:34:28,805 --> 00:34:32,445
Speaker 3: time as a Times piece, it was Neilman's birthday. She

618
00:34:32,605 --> 00:34:35,765
Speaker 3: posted a video of Daniel presenting her with her gift

619
00:34:36,005 --> 00:34:38,805
Speaker 3: and she says, I'm hoping they're tickets to Greece. Have

620
00:34:38,885 --> 00:34:41,725
Speaker 3: you seen this video? No Grease the Country or Grease

621
00:34:42,325 --> 00:34:47,325
Speaker 3: musical Grease the Country. I'm sweetie same, we all want

622
00:34:47,285 --> 00:34:49,365
Speaker 3: to get this to Grease for birthday. Yeah, Yeah, she's

623
00:34:49,445 --> 00:34:51,125
Speaker 3: unwrapping the book. How do you go to Greece with

624
00:34:51,165 --> 00:34:53,485
Speaker 3: that many kill? Do you take slum?

625
00:34:53,605 --> 00:34:53,765
Speaker 5: No?

626
00:34:53,925 --> 00:34:56,165
Speaker 3: Well, I think that they can get a nanny, Like

627
00:34:56,165 --> 00:34:58,405
Speaker 3: they get a nanny for like babysitting or whatever, like

628
00:34:58,445 --> 00:35:01,565
Speaker 3: if they're out of the house. Yeah, Okay. She's unwrapping

629
00:35:01,565 --> 00:35:04,325
Speaker 3: the box and she keeps talking about Grease the country,

630
00:35:04,445 --> 00:35:06,685
Speaker 3: and Daniel just waits for her to see because he

631
00:35:06,805 --> 00:35:09,605
Speaker 3: knows it's good the present, right and that. So when

632
00:35:09,645 --> 00:35:13,885
Speaker 3: she pulls out an egg apron, No, it's got separate

633
00:35:13,925 --> 00:35:17,365
Speaker 3: compartments for all the eggs, Like it's got like twelve

634
00:35:17,405 --> 00:35:19,725
Speaker 3: little pockets so that you can wear it and it

635
00:35:19,765 --> 00:35:22,765
Speaker 3: helps you pick the eggs and I guess not crack them.

636
00:35:23,005 --> 00:35:27,045
Speaker 5: There's my birthday present from Daniel.

637
00:35:27,405 --> 00:35:33,005
Speaker 1: Tickets to Grease, so plain tickets.

638
00:35:31,885 --> 00:35:33,565
Speaker 3: A hat I can wearing Grease.

639
00:35:35,485 --> 00:35:36,405
Speaker 1: That hat.

640
00:35:37,005 --> 00:35:38,925
Speaker 3: Oh my egg.

641
00:35:38,685 --> 00:35:44,965
Speaker 2: Appri great they didn't gather eggs.

642
00:35:45,045 --> 00:35:48,085
Speaker 1: Yes, it's really cutely that's the most.

643
00:35:48,565 --> 00:35:53,165
Speaker 3: Then he says you're welcome, thanks Benny, And in my opinion,

644
00:35:53,485 --> 00:35:56,645
Speaker 3: she's pissed because no one wants an egg apron and

645
00:35:56,685 --> 00:36:01,765
Speaker 3: your fucking father owns fucking every fucking airline. Why aren't

646
00:36:01,805 --> 00:36:06,125
Speaker 3: we going to fucking grease every farking weekend. Yeah, I

647
00:36:06,165 --> 00:36:08,965
Speaker 3: don't want an egg apron. I want an egg apron.

648
00:36:09,405 --> 00:36:12,085
Speaker 3: There's a kid, some son who's just kind of dawdling

649
00:36:12,085 --> 00:36:15,085
Speaker 3: around watching He knows his dad fucked up, and just

650
00:36:15,165 --> 00:36:18,045
Speaker 3: with the internet already seeing her as an egg machine

651
00:36:18,085 --> 00:36:21,165
Speaker 3: with eight babies, the egg apron probably wasn't ideal for

652
00:36:21,245 --> 00:36:24,685
Speaker 3: the narrative. Why did they post it? Every now and

653
00:36:24,725 --> 00:36:26,925
Speaker 3: then you see something like this. I see the film

654
00:36:27,005 --> 00:36:29,085
Speaker 3: a film at fine, but then you watch it back

655
00:36:29,245 --> 00:36:32,325
Speaker 3: and you go it doesn't sit well. I see videos

656
00:36:32,365 --> 00:36:34,485
Speaker 3: all the time of influencers and they'll go to film

657
00:36:34,525 --> 00:36:36,205
Speaker 3: their kid and the kid looks at them and goes,

658
00:36:36,285 --> 00:36:39,005
Speaker 3: I don't want to be a camera and they boast it,

659
00:36:39,125 --> 00:36:41,205
Speaker 3: and you think, I'm like, okay, I know there was

660
00:36:41,245 --> 00:36:44,765
Speaker 3: a learning moment during filming there, just don't post it.

661
00:36:44,845 --> 00:36:46,845
Speaker 3: This didn't look good. So the thing that was really

662
00:36:46,885 --> 00:36:50,285
Speaker 3: awkward was that she goes egg apron and she puts

663
00:36:50,285 --> 00:36:52,005
Speaker 3: it on and she has this little dance and then

664
00:36:52,045 --> 00:36:54,965
Speaker 3: he goes you're welcome, as in like say thank you

665
00:36:55,125 --> 00:36:57,725
Speaker 3: for the egg apron, and I'm like, where are the tickets? Degreed,

666
00:36:58,285 --> 00:37:00,525
Speaker 3: where are the tickets degree as the tickets degrees, does

667
00:37:00,525 --> 00:37:03,045
Speaker 3: she check the pockets because all the tickets actually does.

668
00:37:03,085 --> 00:37:05,565
Speaker 3: She puts them in to be like egg apron just

669
00:37:05,605 --> 00:37:08,325
Speaker 3: because there's a little like hole in it for eggs

670
00:37:08,405 --> 00:37:10,285
Speaker 3: and their tickets for all all of us to grease

671
00:37:10,365 --> 00:37:12,845
Speaker 3: in all the separate pockets. Is that the idea? Well?

672
00:37:12,885 --> 00:37:17,045
Speaker 3: Ellie Goulding commented Ellie Goulding, the singer, and she wrote

673
00:37:17,245 --> 00:37:20,565
Speaker 3: take her to grease please, And I echo that. I

674
00:37:20,725 --> 00:37:25,085
Speaker 3: like that because it's not saying you're abusive, it's just saying,

675
00:37:25,125 --> 00:37:28,605
Speaker 3: get the woman some tickets. Degree. Yeah, it's saying I,

676
00:37:28,885 --> 00:37:32,525
Speaker 3: as an observer, know what she wanted. There's no other present,

677
00:37:33,125 --> 00:37:35,965
Speaker 3: there's no other gift. We have birthday coming up, what

678
00:37:36,085 --> 00:37:40,325
Speaker 3: three months? Tickets to grease? Yeah? Two please? Or like

679
00:37:40,445 --> 00:37:43,445
Speaker 3: my baby can come, that's fine, but I want tickets

680
00:37:43,445 --> 00:37:46,205
Speaker 3: to grease Claire? In what ways do you think an

681
00:37:46,205 --> 00:37:48,805
Speaker 3: egg aprin is a shit gift? An apron should never

682
00:37:48,965 --> 00:37:51,885
Speaker 3: ever be a gift unless you have been to Rome

683
00:37:52,285 --> 00:37:55,525
Speaker 3: and it is one of those naked statue aprons that

684
00:37:55,565 --> 00:37:59,885
Speaker 3: you get for a man. It's for you, No, you

685
00:37:59,965 --> 00:38:02,045
Speaker 3: know he's gonna really like it. That's actually a good point,

686
00:38:02,045 --> 00:38:05,045
Speaker 3: because that is a good gift that's got like and

687
00:38:05,485 --> 00:38:07,925
Speaker 3: put it on when his friends come over. Yeah, that's

688
00:38:07,965 --> 00:38:10,045
Speaker 3: the first time that's say it. And I'm like, they

689
00:38:10,045 --> 00:38:13,525
Speaker 3: have been selling these in Italy. Yeah, surely fifty years.

690
00:38:13,685 --> 00:38:15,765
Speaker 3: Everyone I've ever known has bought them. I reckon they

691
00:38:15,805 --> 00:38:18,525
Speaker 3: were doing in ancient times. Yeah. You know what else

692
00:38:18,565 --> 00:38:20,365
Speaker 3: you get in? You get in a little box of

693
00:38:20,365 --> 00:38:25,045
Speaker 3: shorts with Penis, David stash of David whatever Penis. That's

694
00:38:25,045 --> 00:38:27,405
Speaker 3: when it's OK, that's fine. My other problem with the

695
00:38:27,405 --> 00:38:30,845
Speaker 3: apron is this Hannah definitely already has one. She definitely

696
00:38:30,845 --> 00:38:34,205
Speaker 3: already has an egg apron. It also wasn't wrapped. It

697
00:38:34,245 --> 00:38:36,885
Speaker 3: came in like Amazon packaging, and it was really really

698
00:38:36,925 --> 00:38:39,765
Speaker 3: hard to open. I also think that again know nothing

699
00:38:39,765 --> 00:38:43,485
Speaker 3: about farming bucket. Yeah, I see people on my Insta.

700
00:38:44,005 --> 00:38:46,085
Speaker 3: I think a little basket and egg basket does a treat.

701
00:38:46,325 --> 00:38:48,285
Speaker 3: I don't see them cracking. I think that there is

702
00:38:48,325 --> 00:38:52,405
Speaker 3: an inverse relationship between a person's wealth and their propensity

703
00:38:52,445 --> 00:38:55,645
Speaker 3: to give a good gift. Yet, yeah, absolutely, I think

704
00:38:55,685 --> 00:38:59,205
Speaker 3: that they lose the value and excitement and gifts because

705
00:38:59,205 --> 00:39:02,805
Speaker 3: it's like, I can have everything, so why worry on

706
00:39:02,845 --> 00:39:06,045
Speaker 3: a birthday, and it's like, because birthdays at the time

707
00:39:06,045 --> 00:39:11,165
Speaker 3: for tickets. Degree, Yeah, yeah, it is time for charges

708
00:39:11,165 --> 00:39:17,725
Speaker 3: and sentences. I'm gonna go first because my charge. Honestly,

709
00:39:17,765 --> 00:39:20,965
Speaker 3: I'm pissed about the apron but that's Daniel's crime. And

710
00:39:21,045 --> 00:39:24,405
Speaker 3: as the Times peace firmly established, no one gives a

711
00:39:24,405 --> 00:39:28,245
Speaker 3: shit about Daniel. Okay, okay, but but he is part

712
00:39:28,245 --> 00:39:30,405
Speaker 3: of ballerina fump. He is, he is, but there was

713
00:39:30,485 --> 00:39:32,925
Speaker 3: confusion about the definition of ballerina.

714
00:39:33,005 --> 00:39:33,245
Speaker 1: Hump.

715
00:39:33,925 --> 00:39:36,925
Speaker 3: My other charge is not enough ballet. I really like

716
00:39:37,005 --> 00:39:40,285
Speaker 3: watching ballet, and she is very goodsh at the times

717
00:39:40,325 --> 00:39:42,485
Speaker 3: that I see her do a little dance and often

718
00:39:42,485 --> 00:39:45,285
Speaker 3: she'll just do a little what I call a leg.

719
00:39:46,045 --> 00:39:49,045
Speaker 3: Oh wow, is she flexible? Yes, it was super flexible,

720
00:39:49,325 --> 00:39:51,525
Speaker 3: just just like a trick. And you know how I

721
00:39:51,525 --> 00:39:53,765
Speaker 3: feel about dancers doing tricks, and how I feel about

722
00:39:53,805 --> 00:39:56,845
Speaker 3: watching dancing with not enough tricks where they just do moves,

723
00:39:57,165 --> 00:40:00,205
Speaker 3: because I think I could just do moves, and it's like, hmm,

724
00:40:00,645 --> 00:40:02,405
Speaker 3: I do I know how good you are if you're

725
00:40:02,445 --> 00:40:04,525
Speaker 3: not doing tricks. Yes, I need you to do a

726
00:40:04,645 --> 00:40:08,285
Speaker 3: trick every three moves. Yeah, moves should only connect the tricks.

727
00:40:08,325 --> 00:40:12,285
Speaker 3: Oh my god, This is what I thought about Dallas Cowboys.

728
00:40:13,245 --> 00:40:17,325
Speaker 3: Enough trick, they're split at the end, great trick, the

729
00:40:17,365 --> 00:40:21,245
Speaker 3: whole routine underwhelming. I would say, cart will if you

730
00:40:21,285 --> 00:40:24,045
Speaker 3: can do a flip, do a flip every dance routine.

731
00:40:24,085 --> 00:40:27,085
Speaker 3: I will never ever not be impressed by that. Yeah. Yeah,

732
00:40:27,285 --> 00:40:29,725
Speaker 3: I don't think ballerinas do flips, but I think that

733
00:40:29,765 --> 00:40:32,645
Speaker 3: she could do the splits more. I guess being rich

734
00:40:32,765 --> 00:40:35,605
Speaker 3: is also a charge, specifically not wearing a T shirt

735
00:40:35,605 --> 00:40:39,965
Speaker 3: that says I'm married into generational wealth or alternatively, my

736
00:40:40,165 --> 00:40:43,965
Speaker 3: father in law is worth four hundred million dollars thereabouts,

737
00:40:43,965 --> 00:40:46,125
Speaker 3: but the Internet keeps calling him a billionaire, which is

738
00:40:46,165 --> 00:40:48,005
Speaker 3: not the same thing, but I guess in terms of

739
00:40:48,165 --> 00:40:51,845
Speaker 3: vibe wise it is. She doesn't start every video with

740
00:40:51,925 --> 00:40:55,085
Speaker 3: Daniel's dad owns literally every aeroplane look up in the sky.

741
00:40:55,285 --> 00:40:57,645
Speaker 3: Yeah that one, that one too, Wait, not that one

742
00:40:57,685 --> 00:41:01,245
Speaker 3: because it's United mmmmm, which is criminal. I guess you

743
00:41:01,325 --> 00:41:07,365
Speaker 3: should always state because people feel misled. My sentence very simple,

744
00:41:08,165 --> 00:41:11,965
Speaker 3: very very simple. I need Hannah Nielman not just to

745
00:41:12,005 --> 00:41:14,725
Speaker 3: go to grease, but to go to micanos. Oh, and

746
00:41:14,845 --> 00:41:17,525
Speaker 3: I see her dancing on a table wearing a bikini,

747
00:41:17,845 --> 00:41:23,165
Speaker 3: top and the egg apron, just the ape apron, and

748
00:41:23,245 --> 00:41:27,645
Speaker 3: in each egg thing is a shot. Yeah, except for

749
00:41:27,685 --> 00:41:29,605
Speaker 3: the bottom level because it's like a two tiered thing.

750
00:41:29,925 --> 00:41:34,245
Speaker 3: All euros. Yeah you know those things. Yeah, the chips

751
00:41:34,245 --> 00:41:36,125
Speaker 3: in them. Yep, yep, yep. So how you say it

752
00:41:37,365 --> 00:41:43,005
Speaker 3: like you're like chicken and great kebab and like zekei. Yeah,

753
00:41:43,125 --> 00:41:46,685
Speaker 3: it's like a pitter. Yeah. So she's got like six pitters,

754
00:41:46,925 --> 00:41:49,285
Speaker 3: she's got like twelve shots. She's got her egg apron.

755
00:41:49,525 --> 00:41:52,485
Speaker 3: She's wearing that helmet that you wear in that bar

756
00:41:52,605 --> 00:41:54,485
Speaker 3: and where they hit you on the head and give

757
00:41:54,485 --> 00:41:56,405
Speaker 3: you like a concussion. She's doing that. And then at

758
00:41:56,405 --> 00:41:57,765
Speaker 3: the end, I don't even know if they do this,

759
00:41:57,845 --> 00:41:59,405
Speaker 3: but like you know how sometimes you just set a

760
00:41:59,405 --> 00:42:03,965
Speaker 3: shot of light. She's throw their apron in it, just

761
00:42:05,325 --> 00:42:08,725
Speaker 3: bark the apron. I'm in grease. Daniel's not they he's

762
00:42:08,725 --> 00:42:11,325
Speaker 3: looking after the kids. Tell you that. And you know

763
00:42:11,365 --> 00:42:15,325
Speaker 3: what she's doing making up for the epidurals. Yeah, twelve days,

764
00:42:15,325 --> 00:42:19,805
Speaker 3: twelve epy durals. Just bang bang, I feel nothing. I

765
00:42:19,845 --> 00:42:22,845
Speaker 3: feel nothing, just like make up for lost time. Yeah,

766
00:42:22,965 --> 00:42:27,205
Speaker 3: love that. Just as a bit of an addendum. Amendum

767
00:42:27,285 --> 00:42:31,965
Speaker 3: addendum to yours. I think that on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,

768
00:42:32,005 --> 00:42:36,525
Speaker 3: wherever the social media social media is. I think people

769
00:42:36,565 --> 00:42:41,325
Speaker 3: should have your user name and then in brackets your

770
00:42:41,605 --> 00:42:47,805
Speaker 3: wealth status. So Ballerina Farm in brackets rich yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeay, yep.

771
00:42:48,285 --> 00:42:52,285
Speaker 3: It's like a tick verification just so rich rich person,

772
00:42:52,405 --> 00:42:54,485
Speaker 3: which is fine. Just look at it through that line.

773
00:42:54,565 --> 00:42:56,685
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, these are rich people. You know how we

774
00:42:56,725 --> 00:43:00,925
Speaker 3: had that warning before about like repeating this could cause

775
00:43:00,965 --> 00:43:03,045
Speaker 3: damage or something like that. These people are rich, They're

776
00:43:03,085 --> 00:43:05,525
Speaker 3: not like you. Yeah, you can't afford this. Don't quit

777
00:43:05,565 --> 00:43:08,525
Speaker 3: your job. Don't quit your job by a farm with

778
00:43:08,565 --> 00:43:11,165
Speaker 3: a little pet count named Julette. Don't don't. It will

779
00:43:11,165 --> 00:43:13,365
Speaker 3: not look like this. You'll end up in financial room.

780
00:43:13,685 --> 00:43:17,485
Speaker 3: You're not gonna have eating. Your kids are gonna get

781
00:43:17,485 --> 00:43:20,125
Speaker 3: scurvy because you can't feed them. You don't know at

782
00:43:20,125 --> 00:43:25,165
Speaker 3: homeschool training in your roof. Don't do it. So my

783
00:43:25,725 --> 00:43:29,805
Speaker 3: charge and center is slightly different. I have feelings towards Daniel. Okay,

784
00:43:30,285 --> 00:43:33,325
Speaker 3: you know Daniel's not on trial. Yes he is, because

785
00:43:33,405 --> 00:43:35,925
Speaker 3: Daniel is part of Ballerina Farm. I think that I

786
00:43:36,045 --> 00:43:40,765
Speaker 3: definitionally didn't define my scope well enough in this particular episode. No,

787
00:43:40,845 --> 00:43:43,605
Speaker 3: And something that I've learned throughout this episode is that

788
00:43:43,685 --> 00:43:48,805
Speaker 3: I think these personalities. You see somebody on social media

789
00:43:49,125 --> 00:43:51,805
Speaker 3: and you think it's them, but they are a business.

790
00:43:52,085 --> 00:43:57,965
Speaker 3: What and sometimes I'm gonna sell your life very controlled

791
00:43:58,005 --> 00:44:01,565
Speaker 3: by Daniel. Wow. Yeah that should also be a little

792
00:44:01,565 --> 00:44:04,525
Speaker 3: mini thing at the bottom of morning, just a little

793
00:44:04,525 --> 00:44:08,565
Speaker 3: asterix controlled by Daniel. Yeah, edited by Daniel. Yeah, this

794
00:44:08,645 --> 00:44:11,565
Speaker 3: was written by Daniel. Everything was a little bit informed

795
00:44:11,565 --> 00:44:14,805
Speaker 3: by him. So I get weird vibes off Daniel, I do. Yeah,

796
00:44:14,965 --> 00:44:19,005
Speaker 3: I get Megan Agnew was trying to tell us something. Yep.

797
00:44:19,165 --> 00:44:22,725
Speaker 3: And so your charge is Daniel. Yeah, and I think, look,

798
00:44:22,805 --> 00:44:25,765
Speaker 3: you know, it's one interview and you think, okay, maybe

799
00:44:25,805 --> 00:44:29,405
Speaker 3: she picked up on some stuff that wasn't there. Yeah,

800
00:44:29,445 --> 00:44:32,885
Speaker 3: but then the apron happened. Yeah, yeah, unfortunate and that

801
00:44:32,885 --> 00:44:33,605
Speaker 3: confirmed everything.

802
00:44:33,685 --> 00:44:34,005
Speaker 4: Yeah.

803
00:44:34,045 --> 00:44:38,565
Speaker 3: My sentence is Ballerina Farm needs to work on Daniel's

804
00:44:38,885 --> 00:44:43,365
Speaker 3: branding a brand within a brand. He doesn't pull his

805
00:44:43,485 --> 00:44:48,085
Speaker 3: weight in that way like in a TikTok way. I

806
00:44:48,085 --> 00:44:51,485
Speaker 3: feel as though he could do more ballet. Yeah, that's

807
00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:53,725
Speaker 3: what I mean. It's like she's got ballet, she's got

808
00:44:53,725 --> 00:44:57,445
Speaker 3: a thing. Yeah, she's single handedly growing this business. So

809
00:44:57,485 --> 00:44:59,485
Speaker 3: she does a PR marketing side and he does I

810
00:44:59,485 --> 00:45:02,045
Speaker 3: don't know, the business stuff, something like more of the

811
00:45:02,125 --> 00:45:04,565
Speaker 3: land work or whatever they do kind of fifty to fifty. Okay,

812
00:45:04,565 --> 00:45:08,805
Speaker 3: Well I'm gonna need more Daniel content. Yeah right, because

813
00:45:09,365 --> 00:45:12,525
Speaker 3: your reputation isn't great. Yeah yeah. And to build that

814
00:45:12,605 --> 00:45:14,805
Speaker 3: back up and to make sure that you're not pulling

815
00:45:14,845 --> 00:45:19,965
Speaker 3: Ballerina Farm down, you need to establish who is Daniel? Yeah?

816
00:45:20,045 --> 00:45:22,205
Speaker 3: What can he do? What can he do? What are

817
00:45:22,245 --> 00:45:24,925
Speaker 3: his interests? What are his hobbies? Yeah? So I want

818
00:45:24,965 --> 00:45:27,325
Speaker 3: a farm too. I brought to you by Daniel What's

819
00:45:27,365 --> 00:45:30,765
Speaker 3: in thee in the Ditch? What's in the Ditch with

820
00:45:30,885 --> 00:45:33,885
Speaker 3: Daniel Content series It's easy do an interview with two one,

821
00:45:34,125 --> 00:45:39,445
Speaker 3: Part two, Part three. I want Tulip's journey from friendly

822
00:45:39,565 --> 00:45:46,205
Speaker 3: cow to children's burger. Yes, I want Daniel wearing the

823
00:45:46,205 --> 00:45:48,965
Speaker 3: apron and picking the eggs. Yeah yeah, I don't think

824
00:45:49,005 --> 00:45:54,525
Speaker 3: you pick eggs. No, they don't grund trees. No. You

825
00:45:54,525 --> 00:45:55,845
Speaker 3: know know what I was going to say is I

826
00:45:55,925 --> 00:45:58,165
Speaker 3: was going to say they fall out of cows, and

827
00:45:58,205 --> 00:46:02,565
Speaker 3: they don't. They fall out a chicken chickens. Okay, what

828
00:46:02,685 --> 00:46:05,565
Speaker 3: he needs to do also another content series. I think

829
00:46:05,565 --> 00:46:07,725
Speaker 3: he needs to do a content series. It's like surprises

830
00:46:07,725 --> 00:46:09,765
Speaker 3: for Hannah because I need to appear to be a

831
00:46:09,765 --> 00:46:14,965
Speaker 3: better husband. Yeah, let's convert the children's classroom into that

832
00:46:15,045 --> 00:46:18,285
Speaker 3: ballet studio. Yeah, I think that'd be noice. I'd like

833
00:46:18,365 --> 00:46:20,725
Speaker 3: it on tiktop. Do the children need a classroom?

834
00:46:20,885 --> 00:46:21,045
Speaker 5: No?

835
00:46:21,205 --> 00:46:23,365
Speaker 3: Absolutely not. They can learn from the land. Do you

836
00:46:23,405 --> 00:46:25,405
Speaker 3: want to know what else? Say? Sell because I've just

837
00:46:25,525 --> 00:46:28,805
Speaker 3: I've finally had it. Well. Do you want a special

838
00:46:28,845 --> 00:46:31,365
Speaker 3: box of beef jerky that's going to cost you two

839
00:46:31,445 --> 00:46:37,005
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty five dollars? Jesse Jesse Daniel taking the piss? No,

840
00:46:37,885 --> 00:46:43,925
Speaker 3: what I think it's chilip expense. Oh my god, it's

841
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Speaker 3: really special. It's Chilip in the jerky limited edition. You

842
00:46:47,445 --> 00:46:50,085
Speaker 3: know that protein powder I mentioned one hundred and one dollars.

843
00:46:50,325 --> 00:46:52,325
Speaker 3: Do you want a sour dough kit that's going to

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Speaker 3: set you back one hundred and thirty five? It's expensive?

845
00:46:55,205 --> 00:46:58,085
Speaker 3: Is really price point? Do you want some salt for

846
00:46:58,125 --> 00:47:03,205
Speaker 3: twenty three dollars Jesus my goodness? Or maybe you want

847
00:47:03,365 --> 00:47:07,925
Speaker 3: some enamel dish soap for thirty four dollars. We do

848
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Speaker 3: have an aprint it's not the egg apron, but Hannah's

849
00:47:10,205 --> 00:47:12,165
Speaker 3: wearing it and it looks like the apron and it's

850
00:47:12,205 --> 00:47:16,005
Speaker 3: thirty seven dollars. It's not good for eggs. Very very odd.

851
00:47:16,045 --> 00:47:18,245
Speaker 3: I have so much stuff. Okay, before we go, you

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Speaker 3: have a lazy girl story I do. This is from Ali.

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Speaker 3: I'm a single mother to a sixteen month old. He

854
00:47:24,205 --> 00:47:28,085
Speaker 3: was donor conceived. The logistics of that isn't lazy. No,

855
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Speaker 3: I actually think that that donor conceived if in fact

856
00:47:32,365 --> 00:47:33,445
Speaker 3: falling pregnant at all.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

858
00:47:35,925 --> 00:47:38,005
Speaker 3: It actually involves you doing a thing and then your

859
00:47:38,085 --> 00:47:40,685
Speaker 3: body doing a thing without you even thinking about it,

860
00:47:41,085 --> 00:47:44,285
Speaker 3: and it keeps doing it. Yeah. Yeah, But I just

861
00:47:44,365 --> 00:47:46,925
Speaker 3: open my linen covered and noticed I still have the

862
00:47:47,045 --> 00:47:51,245
Speaker 3: sharps containers from all three rounds I've moved house, but

863
00:47:51,405 --> 00:47:54,805
Speaker 3: taking them to wherever they go seems a lot. I

864
00:47:54,845 --> 00:47:57,285
Speaker 3: would also feel like I had to explain it, and

865
00:47:57,325 --> 00:47:59,925
Speaker 3: that's just too much. I think they'll just stay in

866
00:47:59,965 --> 00:48:03,885
Speaker 3: the back of the closet. This is very an allegory

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Speaker 3: for things that are unclear. How you do a disposed

868
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Speaker 3: like come oil, don't put it down the sink, and

869
00:48:10,645 --> 00:48:12,285
Speaker 3: I'm like, I won't, and then I just leave it

870
00:48:12,325 --> 00:48:14,645
Speaker 3: next to the sink for six months. All like batteries,

871
00:48:14,965 --> 00:48:16,445
Speaker 3: you're not meant to put that, You're meant to put

872
00:48:16,445 --> 00:48:19,765
Speaker 3: them in the bin, but it's like, hmm, I'm gonna

873
00:48:19,765 --> 00:48:22,765
Speaker 3: need a good reason why. Or like glass when you

874
00:48:22,765 --> 00:48:26,125
Speaker 3: smash a glass and you're like baffled, baffled, baffled as

875
00:48:26,205 --> 00:48:28,165
Speaker 3: to what to do with that? Yeah, bury it in

876
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Speaker 3: your garden. Yeah, I don't know what you do with

877
00:48:30,245 --> 00:48:32,325
Speaker 3: your sharps. And then a lot of who buys a

878
00:48:32,365 --> 00:48:35,405
Speaker 3: sharp's disposal box? And from where I take it to

879
00:48:35,445 --> 00:48:37,805
Speaker 3: the local shopping center or something, Yeah, because a lot

880
00:48:37,805 --> 00:48:39,965
Speaker 3: of those places have a sharps. But can you throw

881
00:48:40,045 --> 00:48:43,605
Speaker 3: like all your sharp feels like you're taking advantage? Yeah?

882
00:48:43,645 --> 00:48:45,885
Speaker 3: And who do you ask? And it's always a lot

883
00:48:45,925 --> 00:48:49,725
Speaker 3: when you have something quite confronting on you that you're

884
00:48:49,765 --> 00:48:52,965
Speaker 3: asking about. Yeah. For example, I reise a shit sample

885
00:48:53,805 --> 00:48:56,885
Speaker 3: to the Pooh sample. Where would I hypothetically leave a

886
00:48:56,885 --> 00:49:00,005
Speaker 3: Pooh sample? Is it in your hand right now? Yeah?

887
00:49:00,005 --> 00:49:02,245
Speaker 3: Can I give it to you?

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00:49:02,245 --> 00:49:02,405
Speaker 1: No?

889
00:49:02,605 --> 00:49:02,925
Speaker 5: Okay?

890
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Speaker 3: Should I just leave it in the letter box? Please

891
00:49:05,285 --> 00:49:07,605
Speaker 3: don't leave it the letter box. I'll just leave it

892
00:49:07,645 --> 00:49:12,045
Speaker 3: here on the counter. Everybody in the way rooms is

893
00:49:12,125 --> 00:49:15,085
Speaker 3: watching and you always try and hide it. Why is

894
00:49:15,125 --> 00:49:18,565
Speaker 3: it clear? It doesn't have to be clear. I feel

895
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Speaker 3: very that about the sharps containers. In case you didn't

896
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Speaker 3: believe us when we said we were giving away a

897
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Speaker 3: trip to Turkey, our winner, Amy has sent in a

898
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Speaker 3: voice memo about her trip because, in not very lazy

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Speaker 3: Girld fashion, she's already been. I love the Efficiency high Team.

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Speaker 4: This is Amy, the winner of the Highlights of Turkey competition.

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00:49:38,725 --> 00:49:40,525
Speaker 4: We have been and gone on the trip and I'm

902
00:49:40,565 --> 00:49:44,085
Speaker 4: still feeling so emotional over how life changing it was.

903
00:49:44,605 --> 00:49:47,245
Speaker 4: We soaked up every single moment from the huge range

904
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Speaker 4: of experiences across the eight days, from exploring Istanbul and

905
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Speaker 4: Gallipoli and ancient cities and seeing sue turtles swim right

906
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Speaker 4: ya al ofa Cruz boat. Amongst all the highlights, it

907
00:49:57,645 --> 00:49:59,445
Speaker 4: was the little things that meant the most to us,

908
00:49:59,805 --> 00:50:02,885
Speaker 4: things only a guided tour could really bring, like eating

909
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Speaker 4: at authentic restaurants in back alleys and building bonds with

910
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Speaker 4: other TOOL members. We couldn't believe how easy it was

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Speaker 4: to the trip. From the day the competition was drawn,

912
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Speaker 4: we were on a plane within.

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Speaker 3: Just three weeks.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to Amy from Explore Worldwide and Tammy, our

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Speaker 4: travel agent. Turkey has never been on our radar, especially

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Speaker 4: at this stage in our lives, but I can't brag

917
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Speaker 4: about it enough. And if you've always thought that tours

918
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Speaker 4: went for you, give it a go. Explore Worldwide with fabulous,

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Speaker 4: no fast, no stress, but a whole lot of fun

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Speaker 4: and adventure. We are forever thankful.

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Speaker 3: Amy, We are so glad that you had a nice time.

922
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Speaker 3: If you want the chance to win prizes without having

923
00:50:43,765 --> 00:50:47,285
Speaker 3: to lift a finger, subscribe to Mama Maya via the

924
00:50:47,325 --> 00:50:49,925
Speaker 3: link in our show notes and you'll be entered into

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Speaker 3: all current and future Lazy Girl give boays, thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for joining us on this episode of Canceled.

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Speaker 3: The producer of Canceled is Kimberly Bradish, with audio production

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Speaker 3: by Leah porge'es, and we will be back next week.

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Speaker 3: Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: If you liked this episode and want to hear more,

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Speaker 2: have canceled. We'll put a link in the show notes.

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Speaker 2: Go follow them in their own feed. You won't regret it.