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Speaker 1: Welcome to the cs THEA podcast. Busy and happy not

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Speaker 1: the same thing. We too rarely question what makes the

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Speaker 1: and often don't realize there's more than one way. So

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Speaker 1: Having never had a proper boyfriend, Anna was originally signed

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Speaker 2: she caught me up and said they're doing the Bachelorette.

435
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Speaker 3: Would you do it?

436
00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,760
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, no, I don't think so,

437
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 2: but if anything, I would do the bachelotte, but I'd

438
00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 2: never do the Bachelor.

439
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,199
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to.

440
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Speaker 2: Be one to help me And then I think it

441
00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,480
Speaker 2: was like a day or so lateish Cord so actually

442
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:01,800
Speaker 2: they're doing the batchrott would you do it?

443
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, God, like, I don't know, my parents

444
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 3: are going to kill me, and I think I just

445
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 3: started law.

446
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,760
Speaker 2: And I remember the conversation down in the elevator to

447
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 2: the building and I's just like, I yeah, it was

448
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 2: one of those moments. I was like, I just I

449
00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,479
Speaker 2: think no, but I'm like, I'm gonna like sit on it.

450
00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to sleep on it. And she pretty much

451
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 2: feeled out. Like we sat there over a couple of wiles,

452
00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,080
Speaker 2: she filled out the question and sent it through and

453
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 2: if like it was kind of like that moment. If

454
00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,439
Speaker 2: she didn't be a producer, if she didn't call me out,

455
00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,359
Speaker 2: I would never have signed up for it because I

456
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 2: just didn't think it was me and I just started

457
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 2: my law career. So I was like, it kind of

458
00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 2: was that moment where I feel like it really was

459
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:39,400
Speaker 2: meant to be.

460
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Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. I think everything happens for a reason, and

461
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 1: sometimes in the most convoluted ways and often in people's way.

462
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,399
Speaker 1: To ya, we go through this role of kind of

463
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,920
Speaker 1: fate eventually leading you somewhere, but it's generally related to Korea.

464
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,439
Speaker 1: So I kind of love that this happened more in

465
00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 1: your personal life, but then tweaked a massive shift eventually

466
00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 1: in Korea and total direction pathway, but just quickly. Tim's

467
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: episode was our fifth episode ever on the thirty first

468
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 1: of October twenty eighteen, and this was just after you

469
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 1: had gotten married. But it was just a little snippet

470
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Speaker 1: I want to play of him describing you're a whole

471
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Speaker 1: approach to that show and why you stood out so much,

472
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 1: even though of course you didn't actually want to be

473
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: there competing with everyone, because that's not what you signed

474
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:20,919
Speaker 1: up for.

475
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 2: I went to boarding schools, so I was always surrounded

476
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 2: by a lot of women, so I was like, I

477
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,160
Speaker 2: know how to handle the women.

478
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is him.

479
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, That's the thing I loved about her. She never

480
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 4: really competed for me. She was just like, you know,

481
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 4: this is me. If you like me, that's it. She

482
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 4: didn't try, she didn't get worried about the other girls,

483
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 4: which is what it should be. You're not going in

484
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 4: there necessarily to be better than another girl. You're just

485
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 4: going in there to be your best self. And if

486
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 4: you and I clicked, then that's great.

487
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: And you guys just got married. Yeah, five years later,

488
00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: I marriage out of the BATCHI is it.

489
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Speaker 5: That's so cute, but it's true, Like I literally and

490
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 5: I think that's what It's definitely changed nowadays because like,

491
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 5: because we were the first, we didn't have no one

492
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 5: was an example of what was to happen the process, Like,

493
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 5: we had knew nothing, so it was sort.

494
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 3: Of it was taking a massive risk going in. But

495
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:13,919
Speaker 3: I'm not someone.

496
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 2: I knew the situation. I knew there are other girls there,

497
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,400
Speaker 2: and I didn't want to compete. I was like, if

498
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: it's going to work, it's going to work. So I

499
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 2: really tried hard to just be like like remove myself

500
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: from the situation and just be me and well, yeah, obviously, well.

501
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: So talk us through. I mean, that has been an

502
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 1: incredible moment. I mean, I hate the word pivot, but

503
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,240
Speaker 1: it was like the ultimate pivot at a time where

504
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: the industry really was so new to this concept of

505
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,720
Speaker 1: for shore. It was the very first series ever, so

506
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: like you said, there were no examples of it before,

507
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: no one knew what was going to happen. But then

508
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: it led to marriage, a beautiful daughter, and a huge

509
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: shift in career direction, which obviously allowed you to kind

510
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: of have law on the side but kind of drew

511
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: you and showed you back comparison, you know, all the

512
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Speaker 1: other things that you're or that you love more. How

513
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 1: did that all unravel for you?

514
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 2: It was daunting, Like even just going on the batchel,

515
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 2: it was really daunting. And I remember the first day

516
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 2: going and I was like, oh my god. I called

517
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: my mum right before we had to give our phone

518
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: and I was like everyone.

519
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: So like awkward. I don't know what to do.

520
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 2: And then obviously went through ended up with Tim, and

521
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: we were both from the Eastern suburbs, so I think

522
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,159
Speaker 2: we may have even been at parties together. There was

523
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Speaker 2: one article that came out that they said that we

524
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Speaker 2: knew each other and we'd actually worked in an event together.

525
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Speaker 3: And it wasn't that many people.

526
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Speaker 2: There was three, I think three three or four guys,

527
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Speaker 2: three or four girls, and we're working at this event.

528
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Speaker 3: And they were there.

529
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Speaker 2: We all got a photo together like this, But the

530
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Speaker 2: girls were hanging out with the girls, the boys were

531
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Speaker 2: hanging out with the boys. And I think he must

532
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 2: have liked another girl at the event and he didn't

533
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Speaker 2: like me. I didn't take any notice in him, and

534
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 2: vice versa. And I always say this is why it

535
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: was so good for us because I feel like it

536
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 2: forced us to get to know each other, where as

537
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: on the outside we may met and we did and

538
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: we totally forgot.

539
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't memorable.

540
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 2: It wasn't memorable, and I think it sounds silly, but

541
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: that's what was so good about this show, where it

542
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 2: literally forced us to get to know one another and

543
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: even if you weren't sure at the beginning, then you

544
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 2: could still get to know them and sort of put

545
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 2: that aside. And sometimes on the outside people aren't giving

546
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: other people chances and they're just writing people off from

547
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Speaker 2: the get go.

548
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Speaker 3: So that's what I loved about this show.

549
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: And then obviously after like it was hard because it

550
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 2: was like we're in the limelight now, so everything is scrutinized. However,

551
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 2: we just kind of removed ourselves from that and we

552
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 2: want to make our relationship as real as possible, and

553
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 2: we kind of just like didn't focus on all that.

554
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 2: We focused on our relationship and we didn't get engaged

555
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: or anything too quickly.

556
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Speaker 3: I think it was like five years.

557
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Speaker 2: I was like, come on down, Okay, you've really got

558
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: to propose to me now. And then yeah, we got

559
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Speaker 2: married and had a kid, but like, we're coming up

560
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Speaker 2: to out ten years next year, so like ten years.

561
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Speaker 2: I've married since twenty eighteen, but we've been together for

562
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Speaker 2: ten years as of next year.

563
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I had no idea ten years had

564
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Speaker 1: passed so quickly twenty thirteen. We all face different forms

565
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Speaker 1: of nati A in life, but research shows that loneliness

566
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Speaker 1: is on the rise in Australia, with two in five

567
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Speaker 1: Australians reporting feeling lonely in a typical week. We talk

568
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Speaker 1: regularly on this podcast about the importance of building a

569
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Speaker 1: neighborhood around you, but does that necessarily combat loneliness? Can

570
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Speaker 1: you still feel lonely even if you have good people

571
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Speaker 1: around you? What actually is loneliness? Do we really understand it?

572
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Speaker 1: We Are Lonely is a podcast that investigates loneliness and

573
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Speaker 1: its impact on society through works of pop culture, with

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Speaker 1: esteemed guests like Matrix and Lord of the Rings actor

575
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Speaker 1: Hugo Weaving, Australian rapper Briggs, sing A songwriter, Tashed Sultana

576
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577
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Speaker 1: fellow at Melbourne University, doctor Frederick Kiernan and former Triple

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Speaker 1: We Are Lonely on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or wherever you

581
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Speaker 1: listen to your podcast today. And that's the other thing

582
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: as well, I think is that I like, we just

583
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: sort of look from the outside and you see all

584
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: these dot points. You see BATCHI was a lawyer, became

585
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: a you know, launched into the media, got into the

586
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: public eye, did sas like, got married in Pullia, I

587
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 1: had a baby, and you forget that in between, there's

588
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: so much pathway, There's so much choice and doubt and

589
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: like redirecting and also deciding between you and Tim, like,

590
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't think people had really launched careers off the

591
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: back of television or social media at the time. It

592
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: was very early to do that ten years ago, so

593
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: there was no blueprint for how to reshift. And in

594
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 1: Tim's episode, I even remember him talking about you guys

595
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: actively deciding to give yourself some privacy at the beginning,

596
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 1: but then afterwards to make the most of this incredible

597
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: platform you've been given to follow pathways that you were

598
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 1: passionate about, but might otherwise not have had the chance

599
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: for And I think the uncertainty of the past couple

600
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: of years has given more and more people the chance

601
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: to redesign their lives in a way that they want to.

602
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: So in between all the dot points that we might

603
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: have been able to read in the media or see

604
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: on your social media, you know, I mean it's hard

605
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: to condense a decade into a short amount of time,

606
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: But you've just become a business owner. You've just launched

607
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 1: your own baby into the world, just a couple of

608
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: days ago, into wellness, and that's a huge shift from

609
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 1: lawyer who didn't want to go on a reality TV show,

610
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 1: who I read had never had a boyfriend before. You know,

611
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Speaker 1: how have you spent that decade realigning to seizing the AA? Like,

612
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: how have all the dot points internally unraveled for you?

613
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: And how did you end up at into Yeah, so.

614
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Speaker 3: I've definitely evolved, and I'm not that a totally different person.

615
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 3: I've just grown in different ways.

616
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: And I think that's the beauty of life that you

617
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 2: don't know where things are going to go and who

618
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Speaker 2: you're going to meet and what path that will then

619
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 2: lead to. And for me, this has just been a

620
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: little bit of I think probably working on myself most

621
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Speaker 2: of the time up and to this point, and all

622
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: the people around me who are in the media, I

623
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 2: always see their starting businesses. They're doing this, and in

624
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: the back of my mind, I was like, I want

625
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: to do something for myself. I'm working for a lot

626
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: of other brands, like I'd love to do something for myself.

627
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 2: But nothing ever felt right, and I just didn't want

628
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 2: to bring out a product for the fun of it

629
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: and be like, I just want to sell a product

630
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 2: like that is not me, And it was only what

631
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: are we in two thousand and two? Two anyway, everything's

632
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: all a blur. About a year and a half ago.

633
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: I say I was pregnant. My friend's like, no, I

634
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: think you had anyway, all confusing once again, once you

635
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: had a baby, I just don't know what's going on.

636
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: I don't have a baby, and I still don't know

637
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: what's going on.

638
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: So you're fine, Yeah, yeah, that was probably me too.

639
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: So it was just what and this is how the

640
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 2: business came to light. Where we were just walking one

641
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: day and we're talking about the lack of sleep we're getting.

642
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 2: I was I'm going to say I was pregnant. I

643
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 2: was pregnant, and.

644
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Speaker 1: To be confirmed, I'll do some research later.

645
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: Yes, someone can confirm that bombing.

646
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, so we're walking just talking about the lack

647
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: of sleep and what we use to help with that.

648
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 2: And I'm only since being pregnant, I started using magnesium.

649
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: And I always have to like preface out with like

650
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: make sure you talk to your healthcare professional about it,

651
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 2: because I did and he recommended it because I wasn't sleeping.

652
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: I was getting all my joints really tight and crampy.

653
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: So I started using magnesium. And as soon as I

654
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: started taking magnesium, I was like, I am never going

655
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: to sleep without this, Like it is so good. It

656
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: helped me get to sleep quicker and longer, and I

657
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: had better sleeps. Anyway, then we're also talking about in

658
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: the same conversation, we're just talking about beauty products what

659
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: we use, and at the time it was collagen and

660
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: a few other things, and we were just saying how

661
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: there's nothing all in one out there and anyway, So

662
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: basically that's where it all came about, where we're like,

663
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: why don't we just do something where it's all in

664
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: one everything that you need.

665
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: It's going to target sleep.

666
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: It's going to target skin and for me, I don't

667
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: know if you take magnesium, but it's something that you

668
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: take before bed.

669
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like when you're I don't.

670
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: Know, it's starting to relax, you've got time to think

671
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: about what you need to take before going to bed,

672
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: as opposed sometimes in the morning it's like so hectic

673
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: we get what to take. I sometimes I used to

674
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: take Colligen, but it was like once a month because

675
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: I literally would forget and so it was kind of

676
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: like that moment of like, Okay, there's a gap in

677
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: the market. How can we help women, mainly when it

678
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: comes to sleep, Because when it comes to sleep, it

679
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: is like when you're a working woman, mother, or anyone

680
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: who just gets up exhausted, they've got so much going

681
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: on in the day. If you haven't had a good

682
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: night's sleep, it's a knock on effect and it can

683
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: pretty much affect absolutely.

684
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: Everything you do.

685
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: So first and foremost, also when it comes to your skin,

686
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: like how often do you think, Okay, I've got to

687
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 2: put this cream on, I've got to try this, but

688
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: like you kind of forget about sleep, and I'm like, well,

689
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: if you had like a good night's sleep that is

690
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: probably going to do more than anything else. So that

691
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: was like a big thing for us and anyway, so

692
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: that's where and then a lot of other things. When

693
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: it came to design the name, it was about getting

694
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: in tune with your body. That's where into wellness came

695
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: intuitive beauty and just knowing what your body needs.

696
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 3: So long story.

697
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: Going on and on, Oh please do It's obviously you've

698
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: had you've been having an amazing sleep, so you have enough

699
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: energy to go on and on and on about it.

700
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: But it's so funny. I was reading up on you know,

701
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: what the product is, and it was actually harder for

702
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: me to describe what it doesn't do because there are

703
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: so many different things at once that it's targeting, and

704
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: you can tell just even from you know. One of

705
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: the main words in the copy was that it's a

706
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: high achieving like the ultimate overachiever in the supplement space.

707
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is clearly designed by a

708
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: and overachiever herself, but be one who is juggling a

709
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: lot of different things and does not have time to

710
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: think about all the different things you put into one thing.

711
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: So it's likely just the gift that keeps on giving.

712
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: Exactly and now I've got to be I've got to

713
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 2: remember all the different claims because it is TGA approved,

714
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: so I've got to make sure that now also speaking

715
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: about it, and I think thinking about the TGA and

716
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: the new rules and regulations around that. So I'm like, okay, well,

717
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: can I say it's not stupp up. We wanted it

718
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: TJA approved because we wanted it to have all the

719
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 2: correct amounts. We wanted everything to work well, and that

720
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: was another thing going into this. We're like, we want

721
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: a product that has the best ingredients and it really

722
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: really works. So now we're just trying to get our

723
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: head around all this sort of TGA stuff as well.

724
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: But we've got the claims and we've just got to

725
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: stick to those.

726
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: Ye. Well, I think another thing that's really interesting is

727
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: that so many you know, not just women, everyone really

728
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: who ends up in business. Sometimes it's because they set

729
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: out to be a business owner. Often it's more because

730
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: they stumbled upon a gap for themselves and they filled

731
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: it because they you know, they were the target market.

732
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: They wanted a product that didn't exist, and then they

733
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: closed the gap, which often means that they weren't trained

734
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: business owners. They didn't set out as a child with

735
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: a lemonade stand. You know, you went from a job

736
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: where you trained. You know, law studies take six to

737
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: ten years sometimes, so you're so qualified even out of

738
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: your comfort zone, you're within a very safe structure. Now

739
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: you're going into an industry that you've worked with, but

740
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily as the business owner yourself.

741
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: So exactly, and it's so it is so different, Like like, honestly,

742
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: I've got my business partner and co founder, Christy Whitehill,

743
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: who actually has an entrepreneurial background, so I always say

744
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: I could never do it without her, And I also

745
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: bring certain things to the table that we work really

746
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: well together. But some of the things that she's been

747
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: doing the business side of things, I'm like, oh my god.

748
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm like literally just trying to get my head around

749
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: it because obviously studying a new business, like you said,

750
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: like going from law to studying a new business, it's

751
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: like a completely different world and there are so many

752
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: things to learn and I'm just trying to find my feet.

753
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: And then yeah, it's just it's been pretty crazy.

754
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: And even leading.

755
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: Up to our launch, it was like three weeks before

756
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: we launched, we got all our containers and everything, and

757
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: we opened one up and we were like, I think

758
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: this is the wrong size scoop and we were.

759
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: Like, oh my god.

760
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: Anyway it was, and we had pretty much a week

761
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: maybe a week and a half before we had to

762
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: send it out, and anyway it was.

763
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: It was a nightmare.

764
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: We had to relabel everything because originally one scoop and

765
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 2: now you'll see that it's two scoops. And it's just

766
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: those things where it's like, learn that things are going

767
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: to go wrong and it's okay, and it's just how

768
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 2: you deal with them. And so a lot of the

769
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: times it's kind of like I want to pull my

770
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: hair out, I want to scream, and I'm like, okay,

771
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: look this is just a little hurdle. It's going to

772
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: be okay, and we'll work around it. So yeah, we

773
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 2: had a lot of those moments and I'm just like

774
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: trying to be like super zen about everything.

775
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: Now.

776
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: I was going to say, well, that is the crash

777
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: course in business, is something going absolutely pear shape before

778
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: you've even started. I mean, welcome to the world of business.

779
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: That typifies the whole entire journey.

780
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: You can't prepare for it, and you think I'm someone

781
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: who likes to be in controlled and I like to

782
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: plan absolutely everything, but it's just something that you can't

783
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: in a way. You can do the best you can,

784
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: and you can do everything on your end, but because

785
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: you're dealing with so many other people, it's really hard

786
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: to control. But that's why sometimes you just got to

787
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: let go and give yourself enough time for things to

788
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: go wrong.

789
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is why it's such a

790
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: privilege to be able to speak to you when it's

791
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: just a few days old. The whole launch process and

792
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: all the fears and worries and you know, mistakes that

793
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: have sort of already happened, are so fresh in your

794
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: mind because we're talking about this before. It's beautiful to

795
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: have gone back to listen to Tim's episode just off

796
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: the back of your wedding, and then now that you're

797
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: a mum, to kind of come back around and hear

798
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,959
Speaker 1: your side of the story is so beautiful. I also

799
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: love that in a couple of years time, we can

800
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: go back to this episode and sort of reflect on

801
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: how you felt right now, you know, when the business

802
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: is boomy. So I think something that's very very common

803
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: in fact life in society and particularly for women when

804
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: they're trying anything new, starting a new business, but any

805
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: new position is self doubt and the imposter syndrome of

806
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't deserve to be here. I'm so scared that

807
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: I'll fail and look silly, and often that leads people

808
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: to not even start launching or to think about starting

809
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: launching whatever it is that they're doing. How over the

810
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, while it's so fresh and so

811
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, acute, that whole like, oh my god, I'm

812
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: about to release this new thing into the world that

813
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. You know, it's so brand new

814
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: for me. How have you been dealing with that? Have

815
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: there been any hacks or tricks that have helped you?

816
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: How do you break the cycle? And you're sort of like,

817
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to launch, Like, oh my god, it's

818
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: going to go so wrong. How are you coping on us?

819
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: Like that was me and that's been me for quite

820
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: a while.

821
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: That's why I didn't want to have my own business,

822
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: because I literally was like, who's going to buy anything

823
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: from me? And even doing podcasts like I never used

824
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,799
Speaker 2: to do podcasts because I was like, why is anyone

825
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: going to want to listen? To what I have to say,

826
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: and I genuinely felt that. So like this year, I'm like, Okay,

827
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a lot of podcasts like people, yeah,

828
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: they might like what I have to say. So I

829
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: honestly did feel like an impost and there's times where

830
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: I still do. I'm like, if I go onto a

831
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: certain job, whether it's presenting or anything, I'm like, do

832
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,439
Speaker 2: I deserve to be here? And all of those things

833
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: do kind of run wild in your mind. So one

834
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: thing for me that's helped is having a business partner.

835
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 2: I really don't think I could have done it on

836
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 2: my own.

837
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: There's a self doubt again, yes.

838
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: I know exactly, and it's still there.

839
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: And even recently I went on SAS and that was

840
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why I went on says was

841
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: to change that mindset, and to a degree it did.

842
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: For sure, I'm still a work in progress and it's

843
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: still there. But even just doing podcasts now, I'm like

844
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 2: it has helped me gain confidence to do it and

845
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: believe that, yeah, I actually might have something that could

846
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: benefit someone else in their journey. So yeah, it's like

847
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: self doubt still there, still working on it, and I

848
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: think as you get older, you become more self aware,

849
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: and then you start to love yourself more and honestly, like,

850
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: I'm a totally different person in that regard compared to

851
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: when I was younger. And that's one of the reasons

852
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: I say I didn't have a boyfriend because I was

853
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: too afraid to let someone in and I'd go on

854
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: dates and things that but I was like, oh, I

855
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: don't want them to see who I really am, which

856
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: was like a normal person, but I was just too

857
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: scared to let people in. So yeah, it's definitely something's

858
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: still working on, but it's changed like completely since I

859
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: was a teenager.

860
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: I love that your approach is, you know that whole

861
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: idea of well, if you're scared of it, you should

862
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: probably do more of it until you know, just practice

863
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: and practice and practice, and the more you prove to

864
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: yourself that you can do something, then next time you

865
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: sort of have more evidence to say, well, I mean

866
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: I did sas look what I go to with there,

867
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: so I can pretty much do anything exactly.

868
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: And for me, that was something first I didn't think

869
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 2: I could do once again, and then I also knew

870
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 2: everyone would be.

871
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 3: Like, there's no way Anna's going to do it.

872
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: Someone wrote on one of my Instagram posts that on

873
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: the sports bet, I think I was like fifteen dollars

874
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: to win, but now I've gone down to like a

875
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: dollar fifty or something. Not promoting gambling, but like like

876
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: that's the odds. So it's so funny how people first

877
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: perceive me and now they can watch what I can do,

878
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: and a lot of people didn't know that I, like

879
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: I said earlier in the podcast that I loved my sport,

880
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: like I wanted to compete with the guys. I was

881
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: just someone who was quite determined in that way, like

882
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm my touch footy, all that sort of stuff. So

883
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: I had that as a base. I still don't know

884
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: how I was going to go, Like I had no idea.

885
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: I was like, I hope it might make it past

886
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: the first couple of days. So I'm yeah, over a

887
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 2: week now, which is fabulous.

888
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, you are just such a wonder woman. I'm

889
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 1: so inspired by everything you do and that you did

890
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: it as a mum. And I think that's the other

891
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: thing is when you are in the public. I actually

892
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: had a conversation with a good friend Samantha, who's on

893
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: Survivor at the moment. It's like people think you've then

894
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: volunteered to put every part of your personality and life

895
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: and choices on the line for everyone just to comment on,

896
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: like what you look like, and it's just absolutely insane.

897
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: So there is a really really difficult part of being

898
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: in the public eye. But it also I think it's

899
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: wonderful that then you can choose to fill in the

900
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: gaps and redress perceptions that people might have about you

901
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: by doing things that scare you and showing people you

902
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: know what you can do exactly.

903
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: And I think sas as well is a show that

904
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: a lot of people have said, oh, I didn't know

905
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 2: you were this sort of person or you were capable

906
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: of that, because they've only seen me in a completely

907
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: different life light, which is one of the reasons why

908
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: I went on as.

909
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 3: Well, But it was more for self like the self

910
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: doubt and self belief.

911
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: So I think one of the things that then is

912
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: really hard for a lot of people who kind of

913
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: shoot to fame in a really short amount of time

914
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: as well, without much time to sort of grapple with

915
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: how they want to interact with it, how much you

916
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: want to respond all those kinds of things, is that

917
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: social media. It's democratized business. It's democratized you know, you've

918
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: been able to launch into wellness using the benefits of

919
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: social media, but it comes with a lot of downsides

920
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: as well, like trolling, but also comparison. I feel like

921
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: it's so easy to see what everyone else is doing

922
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: in their lives, and for new mums in particular, that's

923
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: an area I think that I haven't been able to

924
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: experience yet, But I can only imagine how much harder

925
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: and more triggering it is when motherhood and your parenting

926
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: and all that kind of thing, and and feeling guilty

927
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: for having a career and all the different things. How

928
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: do you get a control of comparing yourself to others

929
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: or having others compare you to others and commenting all

930
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: the time on what you're doing. How have you found

931
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,240
Speaker 1: a really happy place in that world.

932
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: I don't follow those people if I feel like it's

933
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: going to affect me. Most of the people I follow

934
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: are people i've met or like are my close friends,

935
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: So I'm not someone who follows every celebrity out there.

936
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: I kind of just I don't really need to know

937
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 2: what they're doing. And when I first came into the media.

938
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: I would read some of the comments on I think

939
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: it was like daily mail face with all of those,

940
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: and it would really affect me and I was like

941
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 2: there was a point where I'm like, Okay, I am

942
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: literally I'm going to stop reading those comments. And ever

943
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: since that, I actually feel like on my personal account,

944
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: I get there's a few nasty comments every so often,

945
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: but majority of the time it's really positive and so

946
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: I love that. But I do think it's who you

947
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: follow as well. So if someone is affecting you and

948
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: you're comparing yourself, like I just don't get why you'd

949
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: follow them, Like.

950
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: You don't need to see that, and it's kind.

951
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: Of like that out of sight, out of mind, So

952
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: you just try and focus on yourself. And I know

953
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: it's hard, but that's something I guess I'll have to

954
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: teach my daughter about. She'll be on Instagram like everybody else,

955
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: She'll be on all these different social media platforms. But

956
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: it's just trying to make them like aware that they

957
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: don't have to compare themselves and it's not always what

958
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: you see on there.

959
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: And I've got to keep saying that as well.

960
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: At times, if I do see something, I'm like, you

961
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: know what, like, yes, they're on holidays, but like, come on,

962
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 2: like there's so much more around that, and I think

963
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: you've just got to get smarter about that. And if

964
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: it does affect you, then talk to people like try

965
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 2: and get help or or get off social media. But

966
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: for me, it doesn't affect me that way because I,

967
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: like I said, I don't follow people like that, and I.

968
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: Think that's how I handle it.

969
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: But like I say this, but at times, like I

970
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 2: might see a comment and it might affect me, so

971
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: but it's rare now. And it was as a comment,

972
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: I think, yes, sir, and it was about saf but

973
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: it was horrendous to comment, but it kind of it

974
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: was slightly funny where I was this person is writing this,

975
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 2: like I think, and we talk about it with other people,

976
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: like who sits there writing these horrible things to people

977
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: like I just don't know what sort of person they are.

978
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: And I do generally feel sorry for those people that

979
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: there must be going and I think a lot of

980
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: people think is now there must be something going on

981
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 2: in their life where they feel the need to write

982
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: something that horrible to someone else, So I, yeah, I

983
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: do feel slightly.

984
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: Sorry for them.

985
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: Where I'm like stop and stop criticizing everyone else and

986
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: focus on yourself.

987
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

988
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: I think that's such a healthy approach. That you do

989
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: have to remember it's ninety nine percent of the time

990
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: about them, if not one hundred percent of the time

991
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: about them, and not a reflection on you, and that

992
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: if you can flip that into compassion for what they

993
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: must be going through, then it's easier to push away.

994
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: But also to remember you have a lot more control.

995
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 1: We're not passive consumers on Instagram. You only see what

996
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: you've chosen to follow. If you do have a public account,

997
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: every now and then there's something that you can't control,

998
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: but if you have a really healthy approach to it

999
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: and don't let it kind of impact on your worth.

1000
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 1: And another thing you mentioned that I love reminded me

1001
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: of a quote that I always come back to, and

1002
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: that's that if everyone put all their problems out on

1003
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: the table and we could all see it, we'd take

1004
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: our problems back because we'd realize, actually, we don't have

1005
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: it that bad. And I think when you're comparing, you're

1006
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: often comparing to just one percent. You're not seeing everything

1007
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: else under the surface, so it's only your life that

1008
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: you know. You need to be concerned with because that's

1009
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: the only one that you can control. What about in

1010
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: terms of you know, I think one thing that happens,

1011
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: particularly with people who have a wellness based business, is

1012
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: that you come into it to sort of boost your

1013
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: own wellness and close the gap for yourself. But then

1014
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: you become so passionate about the business that it starts

1015
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: to consume your own wellness. And that's kind of the

1016
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: irony of going into that industry. I'm sure you're probably

1017
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: already feeling the burnout just from making it to launch.

1018
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: How do you feel about juggling your time and energy

1019
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: like so many people want a piece of you. You're

1020
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: so doing so many different things and being a mom.

1021
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: How do you manage burnout and time for yourself and

1022
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, juggling everything.

1023
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: I prioritize, Like one thing, which is what our product

1024
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: is all about, is sleep. And I know there's a

1025
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 2: few things that I've got to do and I should

1026
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: have done them yesterday, but I was like, I need

1027
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 2: to go to sleep, Like at this point.

1028
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: In time, that's more important.

1029
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: So it's prioritizing, and we set out all our intentions,

1030
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: me and my business partner, all our intentions at the beginning,

1031
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: and they said, we both said, we don't want to

1032
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: be working at one o'clock at night.

1033
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 3: We want to have that work life balance. And there

1034
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: was a lot more in that conversation, but.

1035
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 2: We just put it all out on the table and

1036
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: so we knew each other's expectations and I think that

1037
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: was really important conversation to have and know that we

1038
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: don't want it to take over our life, Like we

1039
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: want to do this and we want to enjoy it,

1040
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: but I'm also a mom. I'm doing a lot of

1041
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: other things other than my business, so I've just got

1042
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: to juggle it. Right now is really busy, so I'm

1043
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: kind of looking forward to like a couple of weeks'll.

1044
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 3: Calm down a little bit.

1045
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: But we've also set up everything to make it sure

1046
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: it runs and the process runs smoothie where we're not

1047
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: like we wanted to sit there and pack the boxes,

1048
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 2: but we were like, that's just going to be like

1049
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: not a time waster, but we can prioritize on other

1050
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: things that are more important. So let's set up with

1051
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: the third party logistics and then they'll be able to

1052
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: send it all out and that so we just you

1053
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 2: have to prioritize, and you've got to have a plan.

1054
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: And communication obviously is very key, especially when you have

1055
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 2: a business partner, because they're wanting things. I'm wanting things,

1056
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you need to focus on

1057
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 2: your health and your family and friends. And I know

1058
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: I'll continue to do that. And if some things lack rare,

1059
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: I haven't got something to my other business.

1060
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: But I'm like, I just need a really good sleeper.

1061
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: I needed to see my girl.

1062
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: I think she'll understand because I know I'd understand if

1063
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: that was her case. And also when it comes to

1064
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: being sick and things like that, we know that you're

1065
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 2: going to have to take time off from work and

1066
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: we both appreciate our health and family and yeah, we're

1067
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: on the same page. So it's getting yourself a good

1068
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 2: business partner that's setting those intentions from the beginning.

1069
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I wish I had spoken to you

1070
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: before we started our business, because it took me like

1071
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: seven years to get to those revelations. But it sounds

1072
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: like you've got a really good structure because one of

1073
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: the biggest learnings is to delegate the things that you

1074
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: know not only you can do, and keep only the

1075
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: things that only you can do, because it is a

1076
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: bit of a time waster in the context of having

1077
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: very limited time to give to that business exactly.

1078
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: And I'm so thankful that I have my business partner

1079
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: because because she's started businesses before, she had all these

1080
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: in the front of her mind where it was like, hey,

1081
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 2: this is what we're doing. Sometimes I'm like, do we

1082
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 2: really have to sit here for an hour talking about

1083
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: our intentions? Like couldn't we be doing something else? And

1084
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 2: now I'm like, you know what, that's one of the

1085
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: most important things we did at the beginning, knowing where

1086
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: each other stands and what we've both got going on

1087
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: in our lives and how we're going to balance it equally.

1088
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: Another thing I think that's really difficult early on is

1089
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: that you have sort of as a self protection mechanism

1090
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: also wrapped up in self doubt. Is that humility of goals,

1091
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: Like it's almost like we never want to say how

1092
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: successful we want it to be because that you know,

1093
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: it's like you don't want to then fall short of that,

1094
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: Or I wanted to sell.

1095
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 2: One, I was like, yeah, it's so happy.

1096
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: Right, And sort of setting those small steps up the

1097
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: ladder then allow you to actually celebrate all the small

1098
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: wins and not always be so distracted by the destination

1099
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: rather than the journey. But if you do listen to

1100
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: this in a year's time, is there any big ultimate

1101
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: thing that would just you know, crash through those dreams

1102
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: and you know, really hit the mark of what you

1103
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: want to achieve within two wellness, The main.

1104
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: Thing I want is that I want to hear people

1105
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: loving the product and it's benefiting their life. Like I

1106
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 2: want people to be like I've just had the ultimate

1107
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: night sleep, I've had the best night's sleep, and it's

1108
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: then affected everything else that I do in the day.

1109
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 2: Like if I can help people in that way, that

1110
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: will be problem the best and most beneficial thing for

1111
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: me as well, because I know that I'm doing something good.

1112
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: So look, yes, we want to sell lunch. That's why

1113
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: you start a business because you want to sell You

1114
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: don't want to sell one, and that's absolutely even though

1115
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: that was my goal at the beginning, to sell one.

1116
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: But you also want to help people as well, and

1117
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 2: you want to see that product affecting them in a

1118
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: really good way. So I'm hoping to hear that, and

1119
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm hoping anyone that tries it just absolutely loves it

1120
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: because it does help them.

1121
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to try it.

1122
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: I feel like like there are so many people like

1123
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: my mum hasn't even got one, myst because of all

1124
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: the issues at the beginning, where it was like we

1125
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 2: literally had I think the product probably only a week

1126
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: out from launching.

1127
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: Were like, you will get something you can try.

1128
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Well, just biggest congratulations on launching. Often

1129
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: that is the hardest part is just getting it actually

1130
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: to market and yes, putting.

1131
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 3: It out there a year ago, oh my god.

1132
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean the best products are always delayed. And

1133
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: I feel like if people like us a particularly who

1134
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: you know have spent our first careers in the height

1135
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 1: of perfectionism, actually getting something launched at all and not

1136
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: delaying it to make it perfect over and every again

1137
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: is a massive achievement in itself. So huge congratulations. And

1138
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: I think probably this question the answer will be a

1139
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: little bit different in the early days of your business

1140
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: because there are chapters of your life where balance does

1141
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: look a bit different, where work obligations are a bit

1142
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: heavier than normal. But the last section is your playta

1143
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: and that's something that most of us spend a lot

1144
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: of our lives without at all. But it's just the

1145
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: era of life where separate to what you do, it's

1146
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: who you are, it's what you love. It's the things

1147
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: that you do that don't have a productive goal, that

1148
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: don't further you in any way other than pure joy.

1149
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: Is there anything you do I mean, you know, traditionally

1150
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: known as hobbies, but is there anything you do that's

1151
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,320
Speaker 1: just to play and that's just to bring you happiness

1152
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: without needing to learn or or produce or create?

1153
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,320
Speaker 3: Can I say just my family?

1154
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: Like yes, when I actually get to spend quality time

1155
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 2: with my family, and sometimes at the moment, I'm like, oh,

1156
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 2: I just want to be able to like genuinely just

1157
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 2: play with you and not have to worry and think

1158
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: about anything else. And it's like there are times where

1159
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: I get that, but I'd like a lot more of that,

1160
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: And that's probably That's definitely something for me that I'm like,

1161
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: even like working towards in the future where I want

1162
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: to kind of you know, when you can just put

1163
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 2: work aside and not have to think about it. Because

1164
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: a lot of the times, even when I'm with my daughter,

1165
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I've got this to do. I've got

1166
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: that to do, so like, yeah, just downtime with my

1167
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 2: family and not having to worry about work.

1168
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 1: And I do think that this is a mean time

1169
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: to ask you that question, because the first week of

1170
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: lotching your business is probably not the time where you're

1171
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: going to be playing to yay very much.

1172
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 3: Exactly.

1173
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: How do you and Tim wine down? Because you both,

1174
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, have so much going on, and often it's

1175
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: quite connected into social media and the digital world. Do

1176
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: you do like days where you switch off your phones?

1177
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: Do you sort of have reading on Netflix shows that

1178
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: help you switch off.

1179
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: We go for a lot of walks around our area.

1180
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: That's normally with Ellen. If she's not crying and screaming,

1181
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: it's quite relaxing, but always relaxing. We like to go

1182
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 2: out to dinner as well. We like to get foot

1183
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: massages together, and when we can, we watch like a

1184
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 2: Netflix series together and I always have to like turn

1185
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 2: it off after because if I don't, he'll continue watching

1186
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: because I normally go to bed earlyer than my husband,

1187
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: so he would want to keep watching something that She's like, Okay,

1188
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to bed, turn it off, and then yeah,

1189
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: he'll stay out.

1190
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 1: He watches without you.

1191
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 3: That's why I turn the TV off. I'm like, so

1192
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 3: you can't.

1193
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: Watch It's nice.

1194
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 2: It's like when we put L down, and she's really

1195
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: good at going down at seven, so it's like kind

1196
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 2: of our time to even just cook and watch something

1197
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 2: at the moment. It's been quite hard because there are

1198
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,479
Speaker 2: times and nights around like on emails ten or eleven

1199
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: o'clock at night, and it's been difficult to like switch off,

1200
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: but that's.

1201
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: What we do like to do, to sort of switch

1202
00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 3: off when we can.

1203
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: And it is a really big adjustment going from being

1204
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: a couple where or you know, you have time to

1205
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: focus on YouTube and your connection in your relationship and

1206
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: then pair into it. I'm sure just throws that completely

1207
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: out of whack and you've got to find new ways

1208
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 1: to then make time in between raising a small human.

1209
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: It's crazy and trying to just juggle it all being like, okay, Tim,

1210
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 2: you need to look after L at this time. I

1211
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: will look after Like I sit there either the night

1212
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: before or even like the beginning of the week, going okay,

1213
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: what do you have on how can we juggle this?

1214
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: I now have I think he has my dary now

1215
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 3: in his phone, so he is a human.

1216
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: Doing just so where Yeah, just trying to stay on

1217
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: top of it all because we're our schedule is just

1218
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 2: so varied and it's different every week and sometimes you

1219
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: have really big weeks, sometimes you don't.

1220
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 3: But if things are overlapping, we need to make sure

1221
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 3: it's looked after. And so it's just once again about

1222
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: communication and juggling basically.

1223
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 1: Every Yeah, totally, Nick and I also have each other's

1224
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: calendar is just overlaid so that we know there's like

1225
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: small pockets of time where there's.

1226
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: Blank got going on, so you don't need to like

1227
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: bug them and things like that.

1228
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Second last question for you, This will probably

1229
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: hard for you given how much you guys have been

1230
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: in the media, but what are three interesting things about

1231
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: you that don't normally come up in conversation that people

1232
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: might not know that are just like weird quirks or

1233
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: things that like only Tim would know.

1234
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: Oh god, well, I actually can ask his question a lot,

1235
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 2: and I always think, you know, when really I get

1236
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: asked the question about what does what do people not

1237
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 2: know about you?

1238
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: Something that people don't know about you?

1239
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, but I've given all those things

1240
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 2: away because I'm like, you always get asked. I'm like, well,

1241
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: I've given that away last time. What is something like

1242
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: I see a massive tomboy? I have said that before I.

1243
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: Did read that.

1244
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not something out you.

1245
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 1: I should have asked him. It's always fun when you

1246
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: have a couple of interview at the same time and

1247
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: you can get them to drop you in the dirt,

1248
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 1: because then it's something that you wouldn't normally think about.

1249
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: But it's like a sleep so we strangle laughter say that.

1250
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: It's always something like oh Anna sleeps with her mouth

1251
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: open and like quarterfly once, or like oh, hey.

1252
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: Well I think, hey, I did eat a ciar.

1253
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: I was like I did eat Was it a cockroach

1254
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 2: or a soicada? Like that was when a child. That's

1255
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: the first thing that came to my mind.

1256
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: It's not even interesting.

1257
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: Oh that's so interesting. I feel like the weirder the better,

1258
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: Like the weird things that never come up in conversation,

1259
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: like allergies or like your middle name or.

1260
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 3: Like you know what allergies?

1261
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: Yes, now that you said that, because I sneeze a lot,

1262
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 2: and like I have running nose, that's sneeze.

1263
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: The you should be the name of this episode exactly.

1264
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: So I went to test my allergies and I was

1265
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 2: like something every like it's almost like all year round

1266
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: and like sneeze and sinus problems. And then I went

1267
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: to get my allergies all tested and I said something.

1268
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: It was like, come on, it was like something grass

1269
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 2: and a little bit of grass or not even that

1270
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 2: much of grass, And I was like, is that my allergy?

1271
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: I wanted it to be something like extremely cool, yeah,

1272
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: and I could just cut it out and then everything

1273
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 2: will be fine.

1274
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, cut out grass out of your life.

1275
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: It's no more grass for you, babe.

1276
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm fully disappointed in that.

1277
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: How do you even manage that? Like what do you

1278
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: even do about it? Just don't go near grass.

1279
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's only mild as well.

1280
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: So see that's interesting. Yeah, do you have any like

1281
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: party trick? Do you speak Hungarian?

1282
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 4: Oh?

1283
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't speak. I do have a put trick

1284
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 2: so I can do the worm with a lot of weddings.

1285
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 2: After a few drinks and a lot of time, people

1286
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: take videos of it and I'm like, can you please

1287
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: delete that?

1288
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: Like the not good? But I'm really good at the worm.

1289
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: Oh my God, I can't even imagine you're doing that.

1290
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and it's yeah.

1291
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 2: A lot of the times my family and tim are like, oh,

1292
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: did you really have to do that?

1293
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, I know, I really shouldn't have.

1294
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 1: But I did. I did actually really have to do that.

1295
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: It was actually necessary.

1296
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: There's lots of things.

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Speaker 1: They're the ones I love, the ones that like only

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Speaker 1: come out. And very last question, since I love quote

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Speaker 1: so much, what is your favorite quote?

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Speaker 2: So I never have a favorite quote because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I take inspiration from everything, but sort of most recently

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Speaker 2: before going to sas, my husband said this quote and

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Speaker 2: I probably will get it wrong, but it's something it's like,

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Speaker 2: if you want to be a winner, you have to

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Speaker 2: think like a winner and also know what a winner

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Speaker 2: believes before winning will actually being a winner. So it's

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Speaker 2: kind of having that winner's mentality before you can actually win.

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Speaker 2: And that was something for me, like I went into

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Speaker 2: it going I can't do this, but I'm like, you've

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Speaker 2: got to change that around, and you've got to say.

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Speaker 3: You can do it.

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Speaker 2: And also if whatever happens and you don't actually end

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Speaker 2: up being able to do it, then you've got to

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Speaker 2: know that that's okay as well, and you've learned something anyway,

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Speaker 2: so it's actually okay not to be good at something

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Speaker 2: or not being able to do something and learn that

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Speaker 2: you're going to grow so much more from those as well.

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Speaker 1: So that one and I love that you've really executed

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Speaker 1: that in like the whole trying things that scare you

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Speaker 1: the most. It's like, you know what, I'm just going

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Speaker 1: to believe I can do it, and then worst case

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Speaker 1: scenario if I can't, like nothing changes about my value

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly. One of the things I often have to

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Speaker 1: remind myself is if you promised everyone that they could fail,

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Speaker 1: but no one would ever know, would they care about failing?

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Speaker 1: And I feel like most of the time, if you

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Speaker 1: could fail in private, no one cares exactly, So you're

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Speaker 1: only scared about the perception of failure, which means that

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Speaker 1: then you've got to change your mindset around caring what

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Speaker 1: people think about you exactly. Well, thank you so much, Anna,

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Speaker 1: huge congratulations on your new chapter. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: follow how it goes over the next couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: and months. Where can we get into wellness?

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Speaker 3: So you can get into wellness online?

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Speaker 2: So it's ww dot Into Wellness dot com and that's NTU.

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Speaker 1: Yes well, how exciting. Congratulations Lovely, and thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank Sarah.

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Speaker 1: It's such a great privilege to be a fly on

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Speaker 1: the wall during special moments for our guests, like the

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Speaker 1: launch of their first business, and to have a record

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Speaker 1: of how they felt and what they were thinking for

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Speaker 1: them to reflect on in years to come. I feel

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Speaker 1: a bit the same way about Yeays of our Lives.

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Speaker 1: One day I'll look back and be able to reflect

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Speaker 1: on what I was thinking at the time. How sweet

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Speaker 1: to be able to play Tim's words back to Anna

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Speaker 1: years after he'd said them, and I hope to catch

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Speaker 1: up with her again when Into Wellness has grown far

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Speaker 1: and wide over the coming years. I'll pop the link

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Speaker 1: in the show notes so you can check it out

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Speaker 1: for yourselves, and if you enjoyed listening along, please do

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Speaker 1: share and tag at Anna heinrich One to thank her

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Speaker 1: for her time and to keep growing the neighborhood as

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Speaker 1: far and wide as possible. And is back for another

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Speaker 1: dose of Yeys of our Lives next week, so stay tuned,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you're all seizing your yay

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Speaker 3: Contendit Regenement, Regenet Regenment, contenet Regement for the