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Subscribe to Mama Maya via 11 00:00:41,567 --> 00:00:43,327 Speaker 2: the link in the episode description. 12 00:00:43,847 --> 00:00:47,727 Speaker 1: Hello, out louders, it is Jesse here. I am wishing 13 00:00:47,767 --> 00:00:52,167 Speaker 1: you the marriest Christmas and happy Holidays to anyone who celebrates. 14 00:00:52,847 --> 00:00:56,487 Speaker 1: Can you believe we are finally, finally here? The thing is, 15 00:00:56,727 --> 00:00:59,207 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, out louders, but for some 16 00:00:59,407 --> 00:01:03,607 Speaker 1: people this day can be underwhelming or overwhelming. There's a 17 00:01:03,647 --> 00:01:05,407 Speaker 1: lot of stress, there's a lot of work, there's a 18 00:01:05,447 --> 00:01:08,767 Speaker 1: lot of chaos, there's a lot of family dynamics, which 19 00:01:08,807 --> 00:01:11,807 Speaker 1: is why wait this time last year, my twin sister 20 00:01:11,847 --> 00:01:13,887 Speaker 1: Claara and I sat down and we decided to just 21 00:01:13,927 --> 00:01:15,727 Speaker 1: write a list of all the things that needed to 22 00:01:15,727 --> 00:01:18,687 Speaker 1: be canceled about Christmas. Look, we're not grinches. It's all 23 00:01:18,727 --> 00:01:21,607 Speaker 1: for a bit of fun. But Claire at the time 24 00:01:22,087 --> 00:01:25,687 Speaker 1: was ridiculously pregnant. Never had anyone been more pregnant. My 25 00:01:25,807 --> 00:01:28,487 Speaker 1: daughter Luna was about five months old. We just had 26 00:01:28,487 --> 00:01:30,567 Speaker 1: a lot to get off our chests. You get the picture. 27 00:01:31,007 --> 00:01:33,767 Speaker 1: But our feelings about Christmas have not changed. So if 28 00:01:33,807 --> 00:01:37,087 Speaker 1: you're feeling not that festive about Christmas, if you'd like 29 00:01:37,167 --> 00:01:39,247 Speaker 1: to have a little bit of a laugh, a little 30 00:01:39,247 --> 00:01:41,527 Speaker 1: bit of a winge with us on Christmas Day, then 31 00:01:41,607 --> 00:01:55,047 Speaker 1: here is a little treat enjoy. Hello and welcome to Canceled, 32 00:01:55,167 --> 00:01:58,967 Speaker 1: the podcast that looks at silly celebrity crimes and assigns 33 00:01:59,127 --> 00:02:01,487 Speaker 1: charges and sentences to them so we can all move 34 00:02:01,487 --> 00:02:04,287 Speaker 1: on with our lives. I'm Jesse Stevens and I'm joined 35 00:02:04,287 --> 00:02:06,967 Speaker 1: by Claire Stephens. Claire, do you have a lazy girls 36 00:02:07,007 --> 00:02:09,687 Speaker 1: story for us today? I do, and there's one I 37 00:02:09,727 --> 00:02:13,087 Speaker 1: can relate to a lot at the moment. So this 38 00:02:13,287 --> 00:02:17,447 Speaker 1: was to the email podcast at Mymaya dot com dot au. 39 00:02:17,527 --> 00:02:19,527 Speaker 1: I hol if people are bothered as an email, that's 40 00:02:19,567 --> 00:02:22,407 Speaker 1: by this, I know. And another thing is this email 41 00:02:22,447 --> 00:02:25,327 Speaker 1: doesn't say like dear so and so, no straight enough, 42 00:02:25,327 --> 00:02:28,567 Speaker 1: and it's not. It never kind of has caps no, 43 00:02:29,047 --> 00:02:34,647 Speaker 1: it just says lazy girl story for you. Recently went 44 00:02:34,687 --> 00:02:38,087 Speaker 1: to Bali for a girls trip. However, my friend Steph 45 00:02:38,247 --> 00:02:41,647 Speaker 1: listener of the podcast Love Is Stair, was keen throughout 46 00:02:41,647 --> 00:02:44,047 Speaker 1: the whole week to get her nails done. On the 47 00:02:44,127 --> 00:02:46,447 Speaker 1: last day of our holiday, she was adamant to get 48 00:02:46,487 --> 00:02:49,687 Speaker 1: her money petty because and I quote, I just want 49 00:02:49,727 --> 00:02:52,367 Speaker 1: someone to cut my toenails because I can't be bothered 50 00:02:52,407 --> 00:02:57,407 Speaker 1: doing it myself. She's a lazy girl. Now. The reason 51 00:02:57,487 --> 00:02:59,647 Speaker 1: I can relate to this at the moment is because 52 00:02:59,647 --> 00:03:02,887 Speaker 1: I physically I can't get down there. I mean, look, 53 00:03:02,967 --> 00:03:05,247 Speaker 1: I can and steal it, just it feels like a 54 00:03:05,287 --> 00:03:07,407 Speaker 1: long way and it is a lot cheaper in Bali, 55 00:03:07,647 --> 00:03:10,207 Speaker 1: it is. I remember getting them done ai ones and 56 00:03:10,247 --> 00:03:12,967 Speaker 1: they were like, oh, it's just take a second to dry, 57 00:03:13,007 --> 00:03:14,727 Speaker 1: and I was like yeah. Anyway, I walked along the 58 00:03:14,727 --> 00:03:19,927 Speaker 1: beach for weeks, I had sand and I was like, ah, 59 00:03:20,327 --> 00:03:25,607 Speaker 1: should have listen. Well, I think getting a pedicure is 60 00:03:25,647 --> 00:03:30,327 Speaker 1: the laziest girl thing ever, because pedicures are like cockroaches. Yeah, yeah, 61 00:03:30,327 --> 00:03:36,007 Speaker 1: they would stand anything like a nuclear apocalypse. Yeah. My pedicure, 62 00:03:36,487 --> 00:03:42,647 Speaker 1: the one I have right now is from my wedding February. 63 00:03:44,487 --> 00:03:47,047 Speaker 1: That's so bad and he's kind of grown out. But 64 00:03:47,287 --> 00:03:52,847 Speaker 1: like the actual mail, polish has not munched. Look on 65 00:03:52,887 --> 00:03:57,367 Speaker 1: today's episode, we're not during a celebrity. Oh, we're doing 66 00:03:57,447 --> 00:04:04,287 Speaker 1: Christmas because Christmas needs to get canceled and real talk, 67 00:04:04,567 --> 00:04:06,567 Speaker 1: it's the end of the ear. You're pregnant as fuck. 68 00:04:06,647 --> 00:04:09,487 Speaker 1: I have a five month old. I'm really pregnant. Walking 69 00:04:09,487 --> 00:04:12,647 Speaker 1: around the office, everyone just goes, whoa, you're very big, 70 00:04:12,687 --> 00:04:17,767 Speaker 1: You're enormous, and we ran out of time to prep lazy. 71 00:04:17,967 --> 00:04:20,327 Speaker 1: She's a lazy girl because this time of year, I mean, 72 00:04:20,407 --> 00:04:23,927 Speaker 1: speaking of canceling things work for one, it keeps going 73 00:04:23,967 --> 00:04:26,407 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, we're not broken up yet. Yeah, no, 74 00:04:26,447 --> 00:04:29,287 Speaker 1: we're not breaking up till December twenty two. I don't understand. 75 00:04:29,527 --> 00:04:32,367 Speaker 1: I checked out last week. Yeah, well, apparently we had 76 00:04:32,367 --> 00:04:34,807 Speaker 1: to prep for this podcast. We only had a week 77 00:04:34,887 --> 00:04:37,967 Speaker 1: warning and we turned up frazzled, and we had twelve 78 00:04:37,967 --> 00:04:40,127 Speaker 1: minutes and we went we can't tell Telyssa, we haven't 79 00:04:40,127 --> 00:04:43,767 Speaker 1: prepped te Lissa is our producer. She'll say to us, 80 00:04:43,807 --> 00:04:46,327 Speaker 1: you had one job. So we were like, what can 81 00:04:46,367 --> 00:04:48,567 Speaker 1: we do with not a lot of time? And I said, 82 00:04:48,567 --> 00:04:52,167 Speaker 1: you know what I feel like canceling personally is Christmas. 83 00:04:52,287 --> 00:04:55,167 Speaker 1: So we're going to do Christmas because and I quote me, 84 00:04:55,327 --> 00:04:58,247 Speaker 1: this is my only note. We know the general story 85 00:04:59,047 --> 00:05:03,247 Speaker 1: and this is mostly based on vibes and feelings, exclusively 86 00:05:03,407 --> 00:05:05,807 Speaker 1: based on There will be no structure because it will 87 00:05:05,847 --> 00:05:08,767 Speaker 1: only become apparent after the fact. Then there will probably 88 00:05:08,807 --> 00:05:10,887 Speaker 1: be a struck that can be applied. It wasn't intentional. 89 00:05:11,527 --> 00:05:18,647 Speaker 1: So without further ado your wine, bread nose, ludo, and 90 00:05:19,287 --> 00:05:26,567 Speaker 1: this is just yeah, where Christmas special? Christmas is something 91 00:05:26,607 --> 00:05:30,207 Speaker 1: that happens on the seven or twenty five. How you 92 00:05:30,247 --> 00:05:35,927 Speaker 1: did a lot of research? Yes, since forever we think 93 00:05:36,447 --> 00:05:39,087 Speaker 1: the Christ in Christmas comes from Jesus Christ, but we 94 00:05:39,127 --> 00:05:44,527 Speaker 1: didn't fact check that, which brings me to my first problem. 95 00:05:44,647 --> 00:05:47,927 Speaker 1: It's very gudy. It is it's quite religious, and that 96 00:05:47,967 --> 00:05:52,687 Speaker 1: feels exclusionary. It feels exclusionary in that like it feels 97 00:05:53,207 --> 00:05:55,687 Speaker 1: inclusive and that when I go to the shopping center, 98 00:05:55,727 --> 00:05:58,487 Speaker 1: it feels like everyone wants me to buy things regardless 99 00:05:58,487 --> 00:06:01,767 Speaker 1: of my religion, so I feel included that way. But 100 00:06:01,967 --> 00:06:04,487 Speaker 1: then you listen to a hymn and it's like, oh, 101 00:06:04,767 --> 00:06:09,687 Speaker 1: hark the angels sink, and it's like, well, what if 102 00:06:09,727 --> 00:06:12,327 Speaker 1: I don't believe in angels? What then? Yeah? And then 103 00:06:12,367 --> 00:06:16,767 Speaker 1: you go you look at people's Christmas decorations and there's reindeer, 104 00:06:17,247 --> 00:06:23,127 Speaker 1: and I go brain deeer and not religious, but it's 105 00:06:23,167 --> 00:06:29,967 Speaker 1: still some bullshit. But that's a different point. Okay, here 106 00:06:29,967 --> 00:06:32,447 Speaker 1: are some of my notes. This is actually a really 107 00:06:32,447 --> 00:06:34,927 Speaker 1: good one. People always say you have to catch up 108 00:06:34,967 --> 00:06:38,087 Speaker 1: before it, and no, we don't. That's a great point. 109 00:06:38,087 --> 00:06:41,327 Speaker 1: And it started to happen. It started to become very 110 00:06:42,047 --> 00:06:44,887 Speaker 1: we must catch up before Christmas, and it's like what 111 00:06:44,927 --> 00:06:46,927 Speaker 1: would happen if we didn't? And we just caught up 112 00:06:47,167 --> 00:06:50,287 Speaker 1: in January. And what's really hard is that when people 113 00:06:50,327 --> 00:06:52,167 Speaker 1: say that, got to see you before Christmas. We've got 114 00:06:52,167 --> 00:06:55,047 Speaker 1: to go get lunch, get a coffee before Christmas, it's like, one, 115 00:06:55,167 --> 00:06:59,767 Speaker 1: why yeah? And two how do you politely say I'm 116 00:06:59,847 --> 00:07:02,567 Speaker 1: busy every day until then? How do you politely I 117 00:07:02,607 --> 00:07:05,887 Speaker 1: don't want yeah, sorry, I'm not busy every day until then, 118 00:07:06,167 --> 00:07:09,407 Speaker 1: but lightly say no to all of the day it's 119 00:07:09,447 --> 00:07:11,207 Speaker 1: a trap, it's a prison. The lead up to Christmas 120 00:07:11,247 --> 00:07:14,327 Speaker 1: is a prison. And then you find in the three 121 00:07:14,327 --> 00:07:16,207 Speaker 1: weeks before Christmas like I'm going out to dinner to 122 00:07:16,287 --> 00:07:18,167 Speaker 1: night with blah and your partner's like why, and it's like, 123 00:07:18,207 --> 00:07:20,327 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know a pre Christmas thing. 124 00:07:20,367 --> 00:07:22,607 Speaker 1: I don't know. And then after Christmas there are these 125 00:07:22,687 --> 00:07:29,087 Speaker 1: weeks you're very I'm so free. 126 00:07:28,367 --> 00:07:33,887 Speaker 3: O'clock wall self pity for thirty Stan and the Shakes, thirty, 127 00:07:33,927 --> 00:07:37,007 Speaker 3: dinner with me, seven o'clock, wrestle with myself lo then 128 00:07:37,887 --> 00:07:38,447 Speaker 3: I'm booked. 129 00:07:38,807 --> 00:07:42,327 Speaker 1: Look, families are weird, and Christmas really brings in to 130 00:07:43,287 --> 00:07:47,447 Speaker 1: the spotlight families. You often have to spend Christmas Day 131 00:07:47,647 --> 00:07:50,687 Speaker 1: with your family or a family a family. This year 132 00:07:51,727 --> 00:07:55,927 Speaker 1: is the first slash only year in my life where 133 00:07:55,967 --> 00:07:58,127 Speaker 1: I get to tap out of Christmas because I'm gonna 134 00:07:58,127 --> 00:08:01,007 Speaker 1: be birthing a baby or having just birthed a baby. 135 00:08:01,447 --> 00:08:03,407 Speaker 1: I thought you were still going to show up. Oh see, 136 00:08:03,767 --> 00:08:07,407 Speaker 1: there's this weird pressure to still turn up. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, 137 00:08:07,687 --> 00:08:10,967 Speaker 1: I'm out. I'm not buying gifts, I'm not turning up, 138 00:08:10,967 --> 00:08:14,887 Speaker 1: I'm not raising my can't bike Oh there is, Yes, 139 00:08:14,927 --> 00:08:18,607 Speaker 1: there is. I'm bringing the New Jesus into the world. Okay, 140 00:08:18,807 --> 00:08:22,567 Speaker 1: Now it did make me slightly nostalgic about all the 141 00:08:22,647 --> 00:08:26,167 Speaker 1: people that I will miss. Yeap. So the thing about 142 00:08:26,247 --> 00:08:29,207 Speaker 1: Christmas is that the moment you think your family might 143 00:08:29,247 --> 00:08:32,487 Speaker 1: be normal, someone starts crying for no reason and hides 144 00:08:32,567 --> 00:08:36,007 Speaker 1: in a push for four hours. Never is the madness 145 00:08:36,367 --> 00:08:39,527 Speaker 1: of your family more apparent than on Christmas Day. So 146 00:08:39,567 --> 00:08:42,247 Speaker 1: your worst comes out in people. Oh here are some 147 00:08:42,287 --> 00:08:46,807 Speaker 1: people you might come across. So firstly, the nosy auntie. 148 00:08:48,047 --> 00:08:51,927 Speaker 1: This person has been cooking since four thirty am. Yeah, 149 00:08:52,007 --> 00:08:54,767 Speaker 1: their behavior could be attributed to that, all the fact 150 00:08:54,807 --> 00:08:57,807 Speaker 1: they haven't slept in five weeks. But they're delusional. Yeah, 151 00:08:57,967 --> 00:09:00,127 Speaker 1: they want to know why are you not married yet? 152 00:09:00,847 --> 00:09:05,007 Speaker 1: And even though you've had a baby a week before. Yeah, 153 00:09:05,727 --> 00:09:08,407 Speaker 1: come out quick, quick, and then I'm gonna judge you 154 00:09:08,407 --> 00:09:11,447 Speaker 1: for that. Are also the one when you're a teenager 155 00:09:11,647 --> 00:09:14,287 Speaker 1: who started yelling, what on earth have you been eating? 156 00:09:14,287 --> 00:09:18,167 Speaker 1: Look at your skin? Yeah, chocolate, and it's like, actually, 157 00:09:18,407 --> 00:09:21,887 Speaker 1: the research has been conducted. It's not chocolate, it's not hormons. Yeah, 158 00:09:22,247 --> 00:09:25,167 Speaker 1: she tells you what she really thinks, and she goes 159 00:09:25,207 --> 00:09:28,847 Speaker 1: to sleep standing up in the kitchen fully clothed at 160 00:09:28,967 --> 00:09:34,607 Speaker 1: nine pm. Yeah, then they have toge. She treats a 161 00:09:34,687 --> 00:09:39,167 Speaker 1: lot of wine. Then there's the train red cousin. Everyone 162 00:09:39,207 --> 00:09:40,967 Speaker 1: loves a train rec cousin because it really takes a 163 00:09:40,967 --> 00:09:44,487 Speaker 1: spotlight off you. Yes, and if sorry sorry, if you're 164 00:09:44,527 --> 00:09:47,407 Speaker 1: like I don't have one, it's you. You are the 165 00:09:47,447 --> 00:09:50,367 Speaker 1: train red cousin. We all love this person. They make 166 00:09:50,447 --> 00:09:54,447 Speaker 1: us feel better by comparison. But they're lacking direction. Perhaps 167 00:09:54,447 --> 00:09:57,527 Speaker 1: they've been in trouble with the law. They probably tried 168 00:09:57,567 --> 00:10:01,127 Speaker 1: to get out of Christmas Day but their parents force them. 169 00:10:01,167 --> 00:10:03,847 Speaker 1: They're negative in the group chat yeah or probably silent. 170 00:10:04,007 --> 00:10:07,727 Speaker 1: And then someone, probably the nosey Auntie, offends them by 171 00:10:07,807 --> 00:10:11,487 Speaker 1: asking something like, so you put your family through quite 172 00:10:11,567 --> 00:10:14,487 Speaker 1: enough this year, haven't you. And that's not a question, 173 00:10:14,727 --> 00:10:18,487 Speaker 1: that's a comment. Every year, the train reck cousin swears 174 00:10:18,527 --> 00:10:20,847 Speaker 1: they're done. I'm not coming next year. Yeah, you watch 175 00:10:20,927 --> 00:10:23,367 Speaker 1: I'm not only to one person. Yeah, And then that 176 00:10:23,447 --> 00:10:26,807 Speaker 1: one person spreads it like wildfire after they've had two 177 00:10:26,807 --> 00:10:29,727 Speaker 1: bottles of so the train rec cousin leads and they're 178 00:10:29,767 --> 00:10:31,967 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, Marie, they ain't come and 179 00:10:32,007 --> 00:10:34,647 Speaker 1: be coming back. Why, Well, I'll tell you why. Because 180 00:10:34,727 --> 00:10:39,447 Speaker 1: Joan's upset. Joan's in the kitchen standing up as sleeve. 181 00:10:40,927 --> 00:10:45,407 Speaker 1: Then there's the Prodigy. Now the train rec cousin hates 182 00:10:45,447 --> 00:10:49,007 Speaker 1: the Prodigy. Yes, the Prodigy is relatively indifferent to the training. 183 00:10:49,087 --> 00:10:52,287 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so the Prodigy, no young person 184 00:10:52,487 --> 00:10:52,927 Speaker 1: likes them. 185 00:10:53,127 --> 00:10:53,247 Speaker 4: All. 186 00:10:53,247 --> 00:10:56,087 Speaker 1: The young people are like ner yeah, and I reckon 187 00:10:56,087 --> 00:10:58,127 Speaker 1: that the Prodigy can change year to years. Who's had 188 00:10:58,127 --> 00:11:00,647 Speaker 1: the best year? Oh god? Yeah, And there's a contest 189 00:11:00,647 --> 00:11:03,487 Speaker 1: in the leader who's going to be the Prodigy? Yeah? 190 00:11:03,527 --> 00:11:07,487 Speaker 1: And they might have gotten an annoyingly high HC always 191 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:10,847 Speaker 1: following the atar. It's like, oh you know Ben got 192 00:11:10,927 --> 00:11:14,127 Speaker 1: ninety nine Yeah, Mum told me, Yeah, Mum called, good 193 00:11:14,167 --> 00:11:17,127 Speaker 1: for him. Or they've got a great career, or they've 194 00:11:17,167 --> 00:11:20,647 Speaker 1: saved a beautiful rescue dog, or they volunteered in Africa 195 00:11:20,687 --> 00:11:23,447 Speaker 1: for three years. You should see their home. Yeah. Or 196 00:11:23,487 --> 00:11:26,687 Speaker 1: they're just very sweet and have like a floral dress 197 00:11:26,687 --> 00:11:29,687 Speaker 1: and sensible shoes. Yeah yeah, and you're like, okay, I 198 00:11:29,767 --> 00:11:33,807 Speaker 1: have pudding on my top and it's eleven am old. 199 00:11:33,927 --> 00:11:37,087 Speaker 1: People love the Prodigy because that's what Christmas is for 200 00:11:37,127 --> 00:11:39,527 Speaker 1: the Prodigy is for the old people on Christmas. Yeah, yeah, 201 00:11:39,567 --> 00:11:42,287 Speaker 1: they go, this is the youth, this is the next generation. 202 00:11:42,367 --> 00:11:44,207 Speaker 1: Look at what we've done, look at what we've created. 203 00:11:44,247 --> 00:11:47,007 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, Jane's in a bush, but 204 00:11:47,087 --> 00:11:50,327 Speaker 1: instead we look at the prodigy. Yeah. And the annoying 205 00:11:50,367 --> 00:11:51,727 Speaker 1: thing is that you get in the car on the 206 00:11:51,767 --> 00:11:54,527 Speaker 1: way home with your family and your mom says, why 207 00:11:54,567 --> 00:11:57,767 Speaker 1: aren't you more like Francis And you're like, because no, 208 00:11:57,807 --> 00:12:00,087 Speaker 1: but I almost like preempt it. I'll get in the 209 00:12:00,127 --> 00:12:02,607 Speaker 1: car and just be like, Francis is pretty full of ourselves, 210 00:12:03,207 --> 00:12:06,167 Speaker 1: Like I try and undermine Frances. She just planned to 211 00:12:06,167 --> 00:12:09,247 Speaker 1: see Yeah, yeah, oh wow, France is a big noting ourselves. 212 00:12:10,167 --> 00:12:15,367 Speaker 1: We want to know about people. The mom's like, what's 213 00:12:15,447 --> 00:12:19,447 Speaker 1: actually wrong with you? Seriously being more like Francis. Then 214 00:12:19,487 --> 00:12:24,767 Speaker 1: there's the sentimental old person and I reckon every year 215 00:12:24,847 --> 00:12:28,687 Speaker 1: this person their emotions hit earlier and earlier because I reckon, 216 00:12:28,727 --> 00:12:34,407 Speaker 1: I've turned up eleven am and they're like, oh look around, 217 00:12:35,047 --> 00:12:38,167 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I haven't had a coffin yet. This 218 00:12:38,207 --> 00:12:41,647 Speaker 1: is a lot. So it's the fact seeing the family 219 00:12:41,687 --> 00:12:45,327 Speaker 1: together gives them all the feelings at once, and it's 220 00:12:45,367 --> 00:12:48,527 Speaker 1: often a grandparent They then start talking about the people 221 00:12:48,527 --> 00:12:50,527 Speaker 1: who are no longer there to celebrate Chris. They want 222 00:12:50,527 --> 00:12:53,567 Speaker 1: to do a speech about it, and it's really true 223 00:12:53,607 --> 00:12:55,687 Speaker 1: and it's really important. Does it bring down the fi 224 00:12:57,327 --> 00:12:59,167 Speaker 1: because there are little kids who are like, where am 225 00:12:59,207 --> 00:13:03,967 Speaker 1: I presents? They've got this misty eyed old person who's 226 00:13:04,047 --> 00:13:06,607 Speaker 1: just like I missed the love of my life. And 227 00:13:06,687 --> 00:13:10,527 Speaker 1: they's like, Tom just open and he's pressing like he's 228 00:13:10,567 --> 00:13:14,047 Speaker 1: opening them all under the trains and it's making noises exactly, 229 00:13:14,167 --> 00:13:16,647 Speaker 1: it's really loud. Then there's a conservative uncle. 230 00:13:18,047 --> 00:13:20,487 Speaker 3: Yeah, you go woke, you go broke. 231 00:13:21,367 --> 00:13:24,447 Speaker 1: This is the know about climate change. So I don't 232 00:13:24,487 --> 00:13:28,527 Speaker 1: know about them refugees no, okay, yeah, yeah, because you 233 00:13:28,607 --> 00:13:30,887 Speaker 1: don't know who's here. He's got some thoughts on the 234 00:13:30,927 --> 00:13:33,927 Speaker 1: referendum and he'll share them. Yes, he thinks political correctness 235 00:13:34,007 --> 00:13:38,327 Speaker 1: has gone too far. People tiptoe around him until around 236 00:13:38,367 --> 00:13:42,287 Speaker 1: five pm and then you just start to stirshey. You 237 00:13:42,407 --> 00:13:45,087 Speaker 1: just start going, hey, if you don't believe in climate change, 238 00:13:45,087 --> 00:13:48,327 Speaker 1: why you got a tesla? And he's like he just 239 00:13:48,447 --> 00:13:53,087 Speaker 1: loses it hot today, isn't it? Yeah? Unseasonably, wouldn't you say? 240 00:13:53,967 --> 00:13:57,447 Speaker 1: The conservative uncle is particularly hard to buy for because 241 00:13:57,447 --> 00:14:00,447 Speaker 1: he has everything, has everything, he has everything. He's made 242 00:14:00,487 --> 00:14:02,927 Speaker 1: good money, he's made it in business. Yeah, what he 243 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:06,567 Speaker 1: has done is for forty five years he's burned fossil. 244 00:14:07,327 --> 00:14:10,327 Speaker 1: No one knows for what, No one knows what product 245 00:14:10,687 --> 00:14:15,367 Speaker 1: he's created. But he's made a motster. He has challenging 246 00:14:15,407 --> 00:14:18,167 Speaker 1: the environment. And we all go, we all bag the 247 00:14:18,207 --> 00:14:21,567 Speaker 1: contre we open our presents, and he's given everyone a 248 00:14:21,687 --> 00:14:25,887 Speaker 1: cheeky hundred. You go, you know what, that's gonna save 249 00:14:25,967 --> 00:14:29,327 Speaker 1: my year? We used to say sometimes with the rich uncle, 250 00:14:29,567 --> 00:14:33,127 Speaker 1: you go, I've really factored that into Christmas spending. You 251 00:14:33,207 --> 00:14:34,807 Speaker 1: go out and you go to buy something. There you go, 252 00:14:35,007 --> 00:14:37,087 Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty on the back burner waiting 253 00:14:37,127 --> 00:14:39,367 Speaker 1: for me. And then if one year they decide not 254 00:14:39,407 --> 00:14:43,287 Speaker 1: to give it out, my budget's thrown. But this money, 255 00:14:43,327 --> 00:14:47,447 Speaker 1: it's from fossil fuels. Yeah, well, sharing your spoils, please 256 00:14:47,647 --> 00:14:52,167 Speaker 1: share the stranger. Oh, now, we don't know if this 257 00:14:52,367 --> 00:14:56,167 Speaker 1: is This isn't every family, every family, but every Christmas 258 00:14:56,247 --> 00:14:59,527 Speaker 1: Day we turn up and there's a person there and 259 00:14:59,567 --> 00:15:02,527 Speaker 1: we think, I've never seen you before in my life. 260 00:15:02,967 --> 00:15:04,807 Speaker 1: I don't believe I'll ever see you again. And just 261 00:15:04,807 --> 00:15:08,047 Speaker 1: to bigly. They're not a partner. No, No, they turn 262 00:15:08,207 --> 00:15:14,047 Speaker 1: up either really early or really late, sometimes really late, 263 00:15:14,087 --> 00:15:15,967 Speaker 1: and you go, you've wan bity in off the street. 264 00:15:16,127 --> 00:15:18,487 Speaker 1: You've seen there's a party and it's Christmas. We have 265 00:15:18,567 --> 00:15:21,087 Speaker 1: to be polite. Yeah, there is someone at our Christmas. 266 00:15:21,127 --> 00:15:24,687 Speaker 1: Basically it was our auntie was marriage and then they 267 00:15:24,687 --> 00:15:27,527 Speaker 1: got divorced and then he got remarried, so really already 268 00:15:27,527 --> 00:15:30,247 Speaker 1: it was like should you be here? But she kind 269 00:15:30,287 --> 00:15:33,647 Speaker 1: of still comes that man has died, so she is 270 00:15:34,007 --> 00:15:38,287 Speaker 1: so the new partner of our auntie sex who is 271 00:15:38,327 --> 00:15:41,247 Speaker 1: no longer with us. Yeah. Literally in June, starts writing 272 00:15:41,247 --> 00:15:43,767 Speaker 1: on Facebook walls, Yeah, see you at Christmas, and it's 273 00:15:43,807 --> 00:15:46,127 Speaker 1: like I don't know how to undo this. No, but 274 00:15:46,247 --> 00:15:48,567 Speaker 1: you'll be here at ten thirty and it doesn't start 275 00:15:48,567 --> 00:15:52,527 Speaker 1: till one. And the thing is that the stranger always 276 00:15:52,527 --> 00:15:55,247 Speaker 1: gets a prosen gets a present, brings nothing. Yeah, it 277 00:15:55,407 --> 00:15:58,367 Speaker 1: doesn't bring a plate. You're like, who thought of that? Yeah, 278 00:15:58,367 --> 00:16:01,567 Speaker 1: and ask things. Well, yeah, the stranger will often be 279 00:16:01,727 --> 00:16:07,047 Speaker 1: like anything for a Celia, And it's like beggars cannot 280 00:16:07,087 --> 00:16:10,367 Speaker 1: be two shoes. And I'd say, why didn't you share 281 00:16:10,367 --> 00:16:14,607 Speaker 1: your dietaries? But you weren't invite No, you couldn't get 282 00:16:14,607 --> 00:16:18,327 Speaker 1: her head's up. Then there's the awkward date. They want out. 283 00:16:18,487 --> 00:16:21,167 Speaker 1: They don't remember signing up for this. They're like, my 284 00:16:21,247 --> 00:16:25,407 Speaker 1: family's not like this, and they're like congrats. Yeah, they're 285 00:16:25,447 --> 00:16:27,807 Speaker 1: like why are you here? And they're like, what's with 286 00:16:27,887 --> 00:16:30,887 Speaker 1: the auntie who keeps asking really personal questions? Okay, well 287 00:16:30,967 --> 00:16:34,607 Speaker 1: she's our one, only we may make fun of her. 288 00:16:35,047 --> 00:16:37,647 Speaker 1: And he's like, what about the guy who's in the bushes? 289 00:16:38,647 --> 00:16:43,007 Speaker 1: Be they well? And this sucks after the Prodigy and 290 00:16:43,047 --> 00:16:46,087 Speaker 1: it's like, you know nothing, you don't understand the dynamics, 291 00:16:46,087 --> 00:16:49,087 Speaker 1: and we asked the Prodigy no questions about the h 292 00:16:50,127 --> 00:16:54,767 Speaker 1: then sure even no, no, man, mama not asking for 293 00:16:54,807 --> 00:16:57,247 Speaker 1: your atil mate. Everyone saw it on Facebook. The awkward 294 00:16:57,327 --> 00:17:02,927 Speaker 1: date probably feels judged because they're actively being judged by 295 00:17:03,007 --> 00:17:07,047 Speaker 1: everybody there. That is the point. Even the sentimental old person. Yes, especially, 296 00:17:08,647 --> 00:17:12,247 Speaker 1: but you think it's quite nice. Then the person leaves 297 00:17:12,247 --> 00:17:14,727 Speaker 1: and they're like, no, no, I didn't know about that. 298 00:17:14,767 --> 00:17:17,887 Speaker 1: And it's always something like I do like a haircut, yeah, 299 00:17:18,167 --> 00:17:21,167 Speaker 1: or like I picked up on a sadness and you're like, 300 00:17:21,247 --> 00:17:25,087 Speaker 1: oh really, Yeah, they're always right, but they are the 301 00:17:25,127 --> 00:17:28,727 Speaker 1: people who come to Christmas. And that's a big reason 302 00:17:28,767 --> 00:17:32,367 Speaker 1: why Christmas is canceled because it's chaos. It's absolute chaos, 303 00:17:32,407 --> 00:17:35,767 Speaker 1: and I hate and this has happened with our Christmas 304 00:17:35,807 --> 00:17:38,367 Speaker 1: on one side of our family. Oh, only the kids 305 00:17:38,407 --> 00:17:41,287 Speaker 1: get presents. Well, I didn't agree to that. I actually didn't, 306 00:17:41,647 --> 00:17:44,487 Speaker 1: and you didn't put this down for a vote, but 307 00:17:44,567 --> 00:17:49,847 Speaker 1: someone said it, and it is immature, argumentature and shameful 308 00:17:49,887 --> 00:17:51,687 Speaker 1: to go no, I want a present, as a thirty 309 00:17:51,727 --> 00:17:55,087 Speaker 1: three year old woman to say, I want a present, 310 00:17:55,087 --> 00:17:57,127 Speaker 1: and I want it to be a specific type of present, 311 00:17:57,327 --> 00:17:59,887 Speaker 1: almost like a toy, Like I want it to be 312 00:17:59,927 --> 00:18:02,167 Speaker 1: something I can enjoy on the day. So what happens 313 00:18:02,207 --> 00:18:04,727 Speaker 1: is we all sit around smiling as the kids and 314 00:18:04,767 --> 00:18:07,407 Speaker 1: it's like out of light lego and then you sit 315 00:18:07,407 --> 00:18:09,927 Speaker 1: down and go, oh, can I help you with that? No, 316 00:18:10,127 --> 00:18:12,607 Speaker 1: I'm putting together the Tyrannosaurus Rex and it's like it's 317 00:18:12,687 --> 00:18:14,367 Speaker 1: Christmas afternoon. I have nothing to play with it. 318 00:18:15,487 --> 00:18:16,247 Speaker 3: This happened. 319 00:18:17,127 --> 00:18:29,247 Speaker 1: That's articulous. It is so unfair, just another thing about 320 00:18:29,287 --> 00:18:33,607 Speaker 1: actual Christmas day. Things are closed and wrying to get 321 00:18:33,607 --> 00:18:39,167 Speaker 1: a I need a coffee to my bird at really 322 00:18:39,207 --> 00:18:41,287 Speaker 1: hard it's a normal day. What else on age the 323 00:18:41,327 --> 00:18:46,167 Speaker 1: last minute? Christmas? No, you know what, we've worked as 324 00:18:46,247 --> 00:18:50,327 Speaker 1: lazy girls. We've worked out even actually no, no, I 325 00:18:50,367 --> 00:18:54,047 Speaker 1: always do like an online thing that I can print 326 00:18:54,127 --> 00:18:57,327 Speaker 1: for that I've got print No, no, no. My hack 327 00:18:57,487 --> 00:18:59,207 Speaker 1: is this and it has been for years and years 328 00:18:59,207 --> 00:19:02,287 Speaker 1: and years. But I've actually got too lazy. But Christmas Eve, 329 00:19:02,927 --> 00:19:06,607 Speaker 1: the shops are open and actually most people haven't left 330 00:19:06,647 --> 00:19:10,127 Speaker 1: it to the last minute. Yeah, lazy girls have free roam, 331 00:19:10,767 --> 00:19:14,047 Speaker 1: you do, and every now and then they've actually started 332 00:19:14,087 --> 00:19:18,247 Speaker 1: the boxing late. So you go it's that late and 333 00:19:18,287 --> 00:19:21,087 Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, oh everybody, Oh, were you shopping on 334 00:19:21,127 --> 00:19:25,127 Speaker 1: December sixteenth? Because I wasn't. I was doing nothing. Now 335 00:19:25,967 --> 00:19:28,887 Speaker 1: I've got a deal on the three gifts that were 336 00:19:28,967 --> 00:19:32,567 Speaker 1: left in the shopping center. And the adrenaline means I'm 337 00:19:32,607 --> 00:19:36,647 Speaker 1: making very fast decisions, okay, And I miss the memo 338 00:19:36,687 --> 00:19:39,167 Speaker 1: about who's buying for who, and I've overdone it, actually 339 00:19:39,207 --> 00:19:44,687 Speaker 1: overdone it, and I don't have any craving pa. One 340 00:19:44,727 --> 00:19:46,847 Speaker 1: thing I thought in the lead up to Christmas, because 341 00:19:46,887 --> 00:19:49,527 Speaker 1: Christmas is not just the day, it is a season, 342 00:19:50,167 --> 00:19:54,727 Speaker 1: is that it's a sensory assault. Walking around at night 343 00:19:54,847 --> 00:19:59,447 Speaker 1: with the Christmas lights, with you know, and music, the carols, 344 00:19:59,487 --> 00:20:03,847 Speaker 1: the everything is so so offensive and you just want 345 00:20:03,847 --> 00:20:06,247 Speaker 1: to go. I know that you've put a reindeer with 346 00:20:06,487 --> 00:20:09,847 Speaker 1: kind of white fluff in your front yard. It's forty degrees. 347 00:20:10,487 --> 00:20:13,487 Speaker 1: I've never seen a reindeer here. This is really confusing. 348 00:20:13,847 --> 00:20:16,887 Speaker 1: There's a lack of coherence around what we're telling ourselves 349 00:20:16,967 --> 00:20:24,247 Speaker 1: about all the Christmas carols, Christmas Baby, it's cold outside, 350 00:20:24,407 --> 00:20:29,967 Speaker 1: it's really hot. We do go waste on screen. And 351 00:20:30,007 --> 00:20:33,567 Speaker 1: you've got to have a pool. Yeah, having Christmas somewhere 352 00:20:33,567 --> 00:20:37,887 Speaker 1: without a pool is an absolute crime, an absolute crime 353 00:20:38,767 --> 00:20:45,687 Speaker 1: for lazy girls. The admin involved in Christmas Tree in 354 00:20:46,727 --> 00:20:50,647 Speaker 1: Christmas Tree, I was actually gonna say that because this year, 355 00:20:50,647 --> 00:20:52,407 Speaker 1: for the first time, and I think it is because 356 00:20:52,447 --> 00:20:57,207 Speaker 1: I'm with child, I've thought, shall we Christmas tree as 357 00:20:57,247 --> 00:21:03,647 Speaker 1: our own independent adult and that Christmas tree? Your Christmas 358 00:21:03,687 --> 00:21:07,607 Speaker 1: tree is not a Christmas It's tiny, fifty bar it's tiny, 359 00:21:07,647 --> 00:21:10,407 Speaker 1: and it sits on like a little tape in your house. Yeah, 360 00:21:10,447 --> 00:21:12,687 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to smell like Christmas. I thought 361 00:21:12,727 --> 00:21:15,207 Speaker 1: for Luna. It doesn't really smell like it's like a 362 00:21:15,287 --> 00:21:18,367 Speaker 1: Luna sized Christmas tree it's tiny. But the thing about 363 00:21:18,407 --> 00:21:20,767 Speaker 1: a Christmas tree is it's like, you get it, it 364 00:21:20,767 --> 00:21:23,327 Speaker 1: gets a few weeks use it's dead, and then it's 365 00:21:23,327 --> 00:21:27,007 Speaker 1: like where do I bin it? And then you've got 366 00:21:27,007 --> 00:21:29,527 Speaker 1: to decorate it? Where are the decorations? I've been thinking 367 00:21:29,527 --> 00:21:32,687 Speaker 1: about that I don't know wish and that does bring 368 00:21:32,727 --> 00:21:37,687 Speaker 1: me to Santa is handsy because I was in the 369 00:21:37,727 --> 00:21:39,727 Speaker 1: shopping center and I saw a little thing set up 370 00:21:39,727 --> 00:21:41,487 Speaker 1: and I went, oh, I've got to get a photo 371 00:21:41,487 --> 00:21:43,407 Speaker 1: with a luna, like that's really really cute. And then 372 00:21:43,447 --> 00:21:45,847 Speaker 1: I went, now, he's a bit handsy, and it's almost 373 00:21:45,887 --> 00:21:49,967 Speaker 1: like that's part of his brand. I sit on my 374 00:21:50,047 --> 00:21:53,087 Speaker 1: lap and tell me what presents you want. Just doesn't 375 00:21:53,847 --> 00:21:55,607 Speaker 1: like snacks out and like a beer, so he's a 376 00:21:55,687 --> 00:22:01,327 Speaker 1: drunk wait a beer out for Santa. I just feel 377 00:22:01,367 --> 00:22:03,447 Speaker 1: like it's happened. I feel like he likes a beer, 378 00:22:03,887 --> 00:22:07,127 Speaker 1: no milk and cookies and stuff. See what's happened in 379 00:22:07,167 --> 00:22:10,807 Speaker 1: our family is that our cousin Simon, who we've talked 380 00:22:10,807 --> 00:22:13,447 Speaker 1: about before, he has a disability and he just makes 381 00:22:13,527 --> 00:22:15,887 Speaker 1: Christmas so much fun. But every year he dresses up 382 00:22:15,887 --> 00:22:21,527 Speaker 1: as Santa. But the problem is that it's woolen bloody. 383 00:22:21,527 --> 00:22:23,647 Speaker 1: He gets so hot and you just see him now. 384 00:22:23,647 --> 00:22:24,847 Speaker 1: He kind of puts it on beca. It's a bit 385 00:22:24,847 --> 00:22:26,367 Speaker 1: of fun, and then it's like it's too hot. This 386 00:22:26,407 --> 00:22:28,927 Speaker 1: is a work held in safety issue because this man's 387 00:22:28,967 --> 00:22:32,487 Speaker 1: gonna faint. Every time somebody tries to be Santa, they 388 00:22:32,527 --> 00:22:34,607 Speaker 1: regret it. They regret it immediately because they're handing out 389 00:22:34,687 --> 00:22:39,047 Speaker 1: gifts with panting children. Give me my gift, and there's 390 00:22:39,087 --> 00:22:41,407 Speaker 1: just a lot of sweat and energy in the room. 391 00:22:41,447 --> 00:22:43,287 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of ventilation. There's a lot of 392 00:22:43,887 --> 00:22:46,767 Speaker 1: Like Santa takes his outfit off. That outfit. I'm not 393 00:22:46,807 --> 00:22:49,887 Speaker 1: saying Simon's outfit, but that ot fits fucking stamped because 394 00:22:49,887 --> 00:22:55,047 Speaker 1: it's just got sweat and like children's spittle on it. 395 00:22:55,047 --> 00:22:58,327 Speaker 1: It's far, far too much. Speaking of sweat, Mum always 396 00:22:58,327 --> 00:23:01,447 Speaker 1: has a sweaty upper lip, which is a sign of impatience. 397 00:23:01,527 --> 00:23:05,367 Speaker 1: Impatience because she's made something like, say a salad and 398 00:23:05,407 --> 00:23:09,807 Speaker 1: she said, put this in the back seat way there, 399 00:23:09,807 --> 00:23:14,407 Speaker 1: and I go, I've rested my foot in the salad, 400 00:23:14,687 --> 00:23:20,087 Speaker 1: and I know Mum's gonna screen. She's really, she's really 401 00:23:20,087 --> 00:23:23,367 Speaker 1: at her wits end. Yeah, it's been always left something 402 00:23:23,447 --> 00:23:26,927 Speaker 1: at home and one year we left Nan. We did. 403 00:23:27,727 --> 00:23:30,487 Speaker 1: We nearly got there and we were like, we've left Nan. 404 00:23:30,687 --> 00:23:31,967 Speaker 1: She need to go back and get her and she 405 00:23:32,087 --> 00:23:33,607 Speaker 1: was like, did you leave me? All the lights were 406 00:23:33,607 --> 00:23:36,047 Speaker 1: off and we were like no, we were just sleeping. 407 00:23:37,367 --> 00:23:42,607 Speaker 1: Christmas Ry Christmas. But that's another thing, is the gender 408 00:23:42,807 --> 00:23:47,687 Speaker 1: inequality of Christmas and the mental load, because that was 409 00:23:47,727 --> 00:23:49,767 Speaker 1: actually what made me think of Christmas in the first 410 00:23:49,807 --> 00:23:52,527 Speaker 1: place as something to cancel. Yeah, because it is women 411 00:23:52,887 --> 00:23:55,487 Speaker 1: who are the ones who constantly have to think of 412 00:23:55,567 --> 00:23:58,647 Speaker 1: all the presents, all the food, where will it be? 413 00:23:58,887 --> 00:24:01,007 Speaker 1: And then at the end of the day, the men 414 00:24:01,047 --> 00:24:03,807 Speaker 1: are like, we'll move back the furniture and they make 415 00:24:03,927 --> 00:24:09,807 Speaker 1: this sep people are moving like a table and all 416 00:24:09,807 --> 00:24:13,127 Speaker 1: the men are like, we'll move the table. And it's 417 00:24:13,207 --> 00:24:15,047 Speaker 1: like what food was on that table and all the 418 00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:19,687 Speaker 1: presents and like, no, how Auntie has collapsed in the 419 00:24:19,767 --> 00:24:24,327 Speaker 1: kitchen from making all that food. She's not okay Christmas food. 420 00:24:25,647 --> 00:24:33,847 Speaker 1: The spies ham with flies with flies because the thing 421 00:24:34,047 --> 00:24:37,687 Speaker 1: is it's too hot for meat and so anything you 422 00:24:37,847 --> 00:24:42,207 Speaker 1: have is covered in flies. I'm not a prawn person, 423 00:24:43,047 --> 00:24:46,047 Speaker 1: but when did we all accept that when we ate prawns. 424 00:24:46,447 --> 00:24:49,487 Speaker 1: We'd have bowls of water on the table where we 425 00:24:49,607 --> 00:24:53,687 Speaker 1: dipped our dirty fishy little fingers during COVID, and then 426 00:24:53,767 --> 00:24:57,207 Speaker 1: keep peeling the prawn And then someone's always like, I 427 00:24:57,327 --> 00:25:01,967 Speaker 1: ate the head, I ate the poos, I ate the eyes, 428 00:25:02,647 --> 00:25:10,767 Speaker 1: Yah yah, God, just have chicken eyes meal. Why should 429 00:25:10,767 --> 00:25:13,727 Speaker 1: we do this? Oh? For a year, it's fits revolting. 430 00:25:15,127 --> 00:25:18,407 Speaker 1: But the thing is, with all this said, lots of 431 00:25:18,447 --> 00:25:28,247 Speaker 1: reason to cancel Christmas. I woke you're looking forward to it. Absolutely, 432 00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:31,367 Speaker 1: It's my favorite time of I love it. I said 433 00:25:31,367 --> 00:25:33,727 Speaker 1: to my partner, Hey, I'm recording a podcast in seven 434 00:25:33,767 --> 00:25:37,167 Speaker 1: minutes about Christmas. You're Jewish? Anything to add? And he said, no, 435 00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:40,207 Speaker 1: I'm not offended by Christmas. I'm Jewish. I'm not offended. 436 00:25:40,727 --> 00:25:44,327 Speaker 1: And I went, well, there you go. The thing is, 437 00:25:44,327 --> 00:25:47,527 Speaker 1: I love a present. I've always loved a present. I've 438 00:25:47,527 --> 00:25:50,927 Speaker 1: always got bad presence from my mum, who, over the 439 00:25:51,007 --> 00:25:52,927 Speaker 1: years I believe was trolling me. But now I look 440 00:25:52,967 --> 00:25:54,807 Speaker 1: back on it and I go, no. She had four 441 00:25:54,887 --> 00:25:56,687 Speaker 1: kids under two and a half. It was actually a 442 00:25:56,687 --> 00:25:59,327 Speaker 1: really stressful time. And then she had one kid cry 443 00:25:59,527 --> 00:26:02,607 Speaker 1: for Christmas morning and go, you don't know me, and 444 00:26:02,647 --> 00:26:06,287 Speaker 1: that was coping until I was twenty nine. Top contenders 445 00:26:06,327 --> 00:26:09,847 Speaker 1: for bad presents for you include a blender. A blender definitely, 446 00:26:10,127 --> 00:26:12,007 Speaker 1: But then she started trolling me, like the year that 447 00:26:12,047 --> 00:26:14,047 Speaker 1: I wanted nice bras from Bras and Things. So she 448 00:26:14,127 --> 00:26:15,607 Speaker 1: got me like a thing that had the Bras and 449 00:26:15,607 --> 00:26:17,047 Speaker 1: Things logo, and then I opened it and was the 450 00:26:17,087 --> 00:26:19,687 Speaker 1: ugliest dressing gown and I was like, is this funny, dude? 451 00:26:20,567 --> 00:26:25,767 Speaker 1: Is this funny? You're money money? And I go, I 452 00:26:25,807 --> 00:26:28,927 Speaker 1: want this perfume and she'd be like, well, how about 453 00:26:29,327 --> 00:26:32,727 Speaker 1: this fake one I got from this stupid shop. And 454 00:26:32,767 --> 00:26:34,767 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm not gonna wear it, So 455 00:26:34,927 --> 00:26:38,807 Speaker 1: joke's on us. I don't get it. Jack and the 456 00:26:38,887 --> 00:26:42,287 Speaker 1: our brothers they get a present like me, you mum, yeah, 457 00:26:42,327 --> 00:26:45,087 Speaker 1: and it's three candles, but they don't think to remove 458 00:26:45,167 --> 00:26:50,647 Speaker 1: this chicken that's like three ft one guys. Come on. 459 00:26:50,887 --> 00:26:54,367 Speaker 1: Another thing that comes up at Christmas that I do 460 00:26:54,447 --> 00:26:58,487 Speaker 1: want to talk about is Christmas move I can't do them. 461 00:26:58,527 --> 00:26:59,007 Speaker 1: I can do love. 462 00:26:59,047 --> 00:27:01,367 Speaker 4: Actually, whenever I get gloomy with the state of the world, 463 00:27:01,847 --> 00:27:04,927 Speaker 4: I think about the arrivals gate at Hethrow Airport. Seems 464 00:27:04,927 --> 00:27:06,367 Speaker 4: to me that love is everywhere. 465 00:27:07,407 --> 00:27:09,567 Speaker 3: Often it's not particularly dignified or he. 466 00:27:09,487 --> 00:27:13,567 Speaker 4: Was worthy, but it's always there, fathers and sons, mothers 467 00:27:13,567 --> 00:27:18,727 Speaker 4: and daughters, husbands and wives, boyfriends, girlfriends, old friends. If 468 00:27:18,767 --> 00:27:21,127 Speaker 4: you look for it, I've got a sneaky feeling, you'll 469 00:27:21,127 --> 00:27:24,967 Speaker 4: find that love actually is all around and. 470 00:27:24,927 --> 00:27:27,807 Speaker 1: I can do absolutely no, that's a league of its own. 471 00:27:27,847 --> 00:27:30,327 Speaker 1: But the whole genre of like, I watch Christmas movie 472 00:27:30,327 --> 00:27:34,687 Speaker 1: every day and Christmas. The weird thing about me is 473 00:27:34,727 --> 00:27:38,247 Speaker 1: that I do actually watch it. So Netflix has all 474 00:27:38,287 --> 00:27:42,607 Speaker 1: those like a Christmas Prince, a Christmas Prince too, et cetera. 475 00:27:43,047 --> 00:27:45,367 Speaker 1: Isn't it always just like someone going back to their 476 00:27:45,367 --> 00:27:48,047 Speaker 1: home town for Christmas and they rediscover an old love. 477 00:27:48,047 --> 00:27:51,367 Speaker 1: There's snow and not always tay kiss on Christmas. Absolutely correct, 478 00:27:51,487 --> 00:27:53,687 Speaker 1: And so that is my criticism that we have the 479 00:27:53,727 --> 00:27:57,407 Speaker 1: same plot that we get away with because it's about 480 00:27:57,487 --> 00:28:00,247 Speaker 1: Christmas and Australia's tried to do it in the heat, 481 00:28:00,287 --> 00:28:03,127 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no, no, no, oh, not the same vibe. No, 482 00:28:03,247 --> 00:28:05,967 Speaker 1: it's got to have the snow and the snowy outfits. 483 00:28:06,367 --> 00:28:09,807 Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan did a Christmas movie. 484 00:28:10,367 --> 00:28:12,167 Speaker 3: When people look at me, all they see is the 485 00:28:12,207 --> 00:28:13,927 Speaker 3: spoiled daughter of the Hotel Magnet. 486 00:28:15,167 --> 00:28:19,047 Speaker 1: I'm coming then coming in. I just want people to 487 00:28:19,087 --> 00:28:21,087 Speaker 1: remember me from more than my last names. They are 488 00:28:21,247 --> 00:28:23,847 Speaker 1: so so, so bad and I'm sick. And we've said 489 00:28:23,887 --> 00:28:26,007 Speaker 1: it before. I mean, this is something that's come up 490 00:28:26,007 --> 00:28:29,527 Speaker 1: a lot, is the cancelation of the Christmas album. Well, 491 00:28:29,607 --> 00:28:33,487 Speaker 1: your career's in the toilet. You can't just record Silent Night. No. 492 00:28:33,887 --> 00:28:36,807 Speaker 1: I think that we're gonna move on from it, because 493 00:28:36,927 --> 00:28:39,527 Speaker 1: Michael boublaz self pointed King of Chrisman coming out of 494 00:28:39,567 --> 00:28:44,527 Speaker 1: his cave, it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. 495 00:28:45,047 --> 00:28:46,927 Speaker 1: I don't like it because we've said he's trying to 496 00:28:47,007 --> 00:28:50,327 Speaker 1: own something that isn't his tone. It should be shared. Yeah, 497 00:28:50,567 --> 00:28:52,607 Speaker 1: and Mum puts it on on Christmas and I have 498 00:28:52,727 --> 00:28:57,487 Speaker 1: memories of tension because she's sweating and stressed. Dad's moving 499 00:28:57,567 --> 00:28:59,927 Speaker 1: furniture frantically that doesn't need to be moved. I've got 500 00:28:59,967 --> 00:29:05,007 Speaker 1: a ship present, I'm crying and Michael Boublair is going bells. 501 00:29:05,687 --> 00:29:09,887 Speaker 1: Then you're shut up, Michael Boublay, why we're listening to 502 00:29:09,927 --> 00:29:13,447 Speaker 1: an album? Because even now someone has a stereo and 503 00:29:13,487 --> 00:29:15,007 Speaker 1: there's an album playing, and it's like, do we not 504 00:29:15,007 --> 00:29:17,487 Speaker 1: have a Spotify Yeah, no, someone has a physical CD. 505 00:29:17,767 --> 00:29:22,007 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I got a Christmas album from Sanity, Like, 506 00:29:22,087 --> 00:29:24,767 Speaker 1: where did you get that Christmas album? Why are we 507 00:29:24,847 --> 00:29:25,847 Speaker 1: going to play one? 508 00:29:25,887 --> 00:29:26,207 Speaker 3: Maria? 509 00:29:26,527 --> 00:29:29,687 Speaker 1: I know she's the nulmbour one. She is the queen 510 00:29:29,727 --> 00:29:44,967 Speaker 1: of Christmas. But there will be think about who's not 511 00:29:45,007 --> 00:29:47,327 Speaker 1: had a very good year. I mean we probably haven't 512 00:29:47,327 --> 00:29:50,407 Speaker 1: even seen it, but there'll be launches of Christmas album. 513 00:29:50,527 --> 00:29:53,367 Speaker 1: Oh I have recorded a Christmas album. Oh there's something 514 00:29:53,407 --> 00:29:56,487 Speaker 1: I didn't as it already exists. I can access every 515 00:29:56,527 --> 00:30:01,367 Speaker 1: Christmas song ever written on Spotify immediately, which actually, now 516 00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:03,767 Speaker 1: that you say it, what we're really getting to is 517 00:30:04,807 --> 00:30:09,687 Speaker 1: Christmas can feel repeated. Oh my god. Maybe that's why 518 00:30:09,927 --> 00:30:12,687 Speaker 1: children try and gate keep it, because it's like for adults, 519 00:30:13,487 --> 00:30:15,847 Speaker 1: it comes around and you're like, this is a lot. 520 00:30:15,927 --> 00:30:19,567 Speaker 1: We just did it. Yeah. Yeah, and even like Christmas 521 00:30:19,607 --> 00:30:22,247 Speaker 1: concerts and like if you go to church and they 522 00:30:22,327 --> 00:30:26,047 Speaker 1: do the Nativity plan, yeah, and you think seen it. 523 00:30:26,807 --> 00:30:29,287 Speaker 1: I've seen it. I know how it ends. I know 524 00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:31,207 Speaker 1: how it ends. Yeah, and you're gonna tell me again, 525 00:30:31,247 --> 00:30:33,967 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna do a Carolyn the Domain type thing, 526 00:30:34,807 --> 00:30:36,727 Speaker 1: kissing carols and it's like it's not better or worse 527 00:30:36,767 --> 00:30:40,527 Speaker 1: than I've ever had it before. It's incredibly similar. It 528 00:30:40,527 --> 00:30:42,447 Speaker 1: does need a freshen up. I think we need a 529 00:30:42,487 --> 00:30:45,127 Speaker 1: new love. Actually, that's a good point. I'd be watching 530 00:30:45,167 --> 00:30:50,247 Speaker 1: that every yeah. Yeah, and the holiday and Amanda. 531 00:30:49,887 --> 00:30:51,527 Speaker 3: Are in exactly the same place. 532 00:30:51,767 --> 00:30:55,687 Speaker 1: Where do I want to go by myself depressed at Christmas? 533 00:30:55,807 --> 00:30:57,767 Speaker 3: Just six thousand miles apart? 534 00:30:58,047 --> 00:31:01,967 Speaker 2: That makes sense. We switch houses, cars, everything big. 535 00:31:02,407 --> 00:31:03,727 Speaker 1: I need you to answer this. 536 00:31:04,007 --> 00:31:05,847 Speaker 3: Are there any men in your town? 537 00:31:06,727 --> 00:31:10,207 Speaker 1: The holiday is brilliant, it's brilliant. Yeah, absolute masterpiece. But 538 00:31:10,247 --> 00:31:12,727 Speaker 1: I do think we need more variety because we're settling 539 00:31:13,527 --> 00:31:17,207 Speaker 1: some terrible art when it comes to Christmas. That's why 540 00:31:17,247 --> 00:31:18,087 Speaker 1: people get grinchy. 541 00:31:21,527 --> 00:31:32,167 Speaker 3: Cheer up, dude, that's Christmas, Jesse. 542 00:31:32,287 --> 00:31:39,367 Speaker 1: It's time for charges and sentences. My only charge for 543 00:31:39,487 --> 00:31:45,127 Speaker 1: Christmas is that we do seem to reserve the joy 544 00:31:45,167 --> 00:31:51,167 Speaker 1: of it for children and start gatekeeping. So, as you 545 00:31:51,207 --> 00:31:53,847 Speaker 1: said at the beginning, I would argue strongly, Christmas isn't 546 00:31:53,887 --> 00:31:56,807 Speaker 1: just for the children. And that thing is weird. And 547 00:31:56,847 --> 00:31:59,287 Speaker 1: I don't know why we start acting like we're too 548 00:31:59,327 --> 00:32:02,127 Speaker 1: good for Christmas. We do so like we've grown out 549 00:32:02,127 --> 00:32:05,007 Speaker 1: of it. No, so you always make fun of the 550 00:32:05,087 --> 00:32:08,927 Speaker 1: kid after lunch, He's like presence, presence, presence, No, that 551 00:32:09,407 --> 00:32:11,607 Speaker 1: saying what we are all thinking, and that's why you 552 00:32:11,687 --> 00:32:14,767 Speaker 1: plan to seed. I go after the loudest, naughtiest kid. Yeah, 553 00:32:14,807 --> 00:32:17,327 Speaker 1: and I go, oh, you know, I heard they don't 554 00:32:17,327 --> 00:32:21,647 Speaker 1: want to do presents till dinner and they I've been there, 555 00:32:21,647 --> 00:32:26,887 Speaker 1: going pres present. Let's start a chat. Let's start a chat. 556 00:32:27,007 --> 00:32:29,207 Speaker 1: And so I just think we do gatekeeper and we 557 00:32:29,287 --> 00:32:31,407 Speaker 1: pretend we're too good for it. Oh, we won't do 558 00:32:31,447 --> 00:32:34,167 Speaker 1: presence for adults. My charge for Christmas is really all 559 00:32:34,167 --> 00:32:37,727 Speaker 1: the above, and my sentence is presence for adults. Yeah. Absolutely, money, 560 00:32:38,207 --> 00:32:40,247 Speaker 1: not like, oh we'll do a little silly Chris Kringle 561 00:32:40,327 --> 00:32:41,167 Speaker 1: that eighty bucks. 562 00:32:41,247 --> 00:32:41,287 Speaker 2: No. 563 00:32:41,487 --> 00:32:44,207 Speaker 1: I know they can't living crisis, but I want something nice. 564 00:32:44,367 --> 00:32:47,807 Speaker 1: Oh silly, let's do silly. No. I want you to 565 00:32:47,887 --> 00:32:51,687 Speaker 1: think about me on one day of your life, and 566 00:32:51,887 --> 00:32:55,487 Speaker 1: I will go at midnight the night the night before, 567 00:32:55,527 --> 00:32:58,487 Speaker 1: and I will find a boxing nearly boxing day sale 568 00:32:59,607 --> 00:33:04,487 Speaker 1: where even no, my sentences stop, the gate keeping stop. 569 00:33:04,807 --> 00:33:08,327 Speaker 1: Christmas is for everyone. I love that. Yeah, what a 570 00:33:08,367 --> 00:33:12,007 Speaker 1: beautiful festive message. Look, thank you so much for joining 571 00:33:12,087 --> 00:33:14,847 Speaker 1: us on this episode of Canceled. We want to know 572 00:33:14,927 --> 00:33:17,727 Speaker 1: your like, whether you want to cancel Christmas, what your 573 00:33:17,767 --> 00:33:20,647 Speaker 1: reasons are for canceling Christmas. We should put like a 574 00:33:20,687 --> 00:33:23,367 Speaker 1: box up on our Instagram. It's just like reasons to 575 00:33:23,407 --> 00:33:25,687 Speaker 1: cancel Christmas. Follow us on Instagram. We will have a 576 00:33:26,007 --> 00:33:29,207 Speaker 1: link in our show notes. Canceled is produced by Telsapezas. 577 00:33:29,327 --> 00:33:34,967 Speaker 1: Who's just us, the lack of structure, the lack of 578 00:33:34,967 --> 00:33:36,847 Speaker 1: work we went into. Since we're sorrys did you just 579 00:33:36,967 --> 00:33:38,087 Speaker 1: rant about Christmas? 580 00:33:38,327 --> 00:33:38,527 Speaker 4: Yeah? 581 00:33:38,807 --> 00:33:43,407 Speaker 1: Yep, pretty much. Yes, checked out, Delisa. We have checked 582 00:33:43,447 --> 00:33:46,967 Speaker 1: out out and you should too. Canceled has audio editing 583 00:33:47,007 --> 00:33:50,087 Speaker 1: by Tom Lyon and we will be back next week. 584 00:33:50,247 --> 00:33:58,047 Speaker 1: Bye out louders. I hope you enjoyed this episode and 585 00:33:58,087 --> 00:34:01,047 Speaker 1: if you want more lolls over the summer break, that's 586 00:34:01,167 --> 00:34:05,047 Speaker 1: very fortunate because Canceled is dropping lots of episodes over 587 00:34:05,087 --> 00:34:07,967 Speaker 1: hot pod summer. Will pop a link in the show notes. 588 00:34:08,407 --> 00:34:10,927 Speaker 1: We have plenty of mum Mia out Loud coming for 589 00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:13,487 Speaker 1: you too, so make sure you follow us in your 590 00:34:13,527 --> 00:34:16,967 Speaker 1: favorite podcast app and you will never miss an episode. 591 00:34:17,247 --> 00:34:18,127 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas again