1 00:00:08,234 --> 00:00:11,474 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:18,714 --> 00:00:21,834 Speaker 2: From Mamma Mia. Welcome to the Spill, your daily pop 3 00:00:21,874 --> 00:00:24,714 Speaker 2: culture fixed. I'm Laura Brednick and I haven't tena propos 4 00:00:24,754 --> 00:00:27,474 Speaker 2: and coming up today, it's a special time over of 5 00:00:27,514 --> 00:00:29,274 Speaker 2: the week that we all look forward to and or 6 00:00:29,354 --> 00:00:31,154 Speaker 2: dred depending on how you're taking the show. 7 00:00:31,634 --> 00:00:33,273 Speaker 3: We are talking about married at First Sight. 8 00:00:33,354 --> 00:00:36,114 Speaker 2: We're going to go through the highs, the lows, the fights, 9 00:00:36,193 --> 00:00:40,833 Speaker 2: the tears. We have some very intense opinions about what 10 00:00:40,954 --> 00:00:43,074 Speaker 2: happened this week, so buckle in for that. 11 00:00:43,153 --> 00:00:43,313 Speaker 1: Look. 12 00:00:43,354 --> 00:00:45,034 Speaker 2: Even if you haven't watched marrit at First Sight, you 13 00:00:45,074 --> 00:00:47,714 Speaker 2: don't need to to enjoy this segment because this is 14 00:00:47,754 --> 00:00:50,634 Speaker 2: about human emotion and I'm just gonna say dignity. 15 00:00:51,034 --> 00:00:53,514 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of it, but not a lot 16 00:00:53,553 --> 00:00:57,114 Speaker 4: of it, Okay, But first, you have a trailer that 17 00:00:57,154 --> 00:01:00,874 Speaker 4: you are so excited to talk about. So excited. I 18 00:01:00,994 --> 00:01:03,673 Speaker 4: thought to have this, you really did, I thought to 19 00:01:03,714 --> 00:01:03,953 Speaker 4: have this. 20 00:01:04,194 --> 00:01:06,114 Speaker 2: I'm going to pull back the curtain just a tiny, 21 00:01:06,154 --> 00:01:08,794 Speaker 2: tiny bit to explain why we're laughing. Otherwise he'll be like, oh, 22 00:01:08,794 --> 00:01:11,914 Speaker 2: these white, these girls hysterical? Is that in our planning 23 00:01:11,914 --> 00:01:15,914 Speaker 2: meeting today, Tina provis her big pitch was the new 24 00:01:15,994 --> 00:01:18,514 Speaker 2: June trailer and you were so keen to talk about it, 25 00:01:18,554 --> 00:01:20,714 Speaker 2: And I thought, wow, Tina is such a fan of 26 00:01:20,714 --> 00:01:23,554 Speaker 2: the June franchise. She's desperate to talk about it, and like, 27 00:01:23,714 --> 00:01:26,394 Speaker 2: this is a multi billion dollar franchise. People love these 28 00:01:26,434 --> 00:01:28,794 Speaker 2: And I was like, you take the floor, you explain it. 29 00:01:28,834 --> 00:01:31,114 Speaker 2: So Tina, please explain to us, first of all, what 30 00:01:31,154 --> 00:01:33,514 Speaker 2: happened in the first two movies, what the book is about, 31 00:01:33,674 --> 00:01:37,074 Speaker 2: the significance of this trailer, and maybe even like what 32 00:01:37,114 --> 00:01:38,114 Speaker 2: the character's names are. 33 00:01:38,434 --> 00:01:42,034 Speaker 1: So Zenda and Timothy schallameyer in it, and that's far. 34 00:01:42,074 --> 00:01:44,754 Speaker 1: I'm excited. And I also made a confession prior to 35 00:01:44,794 --> 00:01:46,314 Speaker 1: this that I haven't seen one and two. 36 00:01:46,834 --> 00:01:48,634 Speaker 2: As we're about to jump in, I was like, you 37 00:01:48,674 --> 00:01:52,074 Speaker 2: take the floor, it's your favorite franchise, and she was like, oh, no, 38 00:01:52,154 --> 00:01:52,714 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. 39 00:01:52,794 --> 00:01:54,394 Speaker 3: I just saw the trailer was out, so I. 40 00:01:54,394 --> 00:01:56,874 Speaker 1: Whispered into the microphone, yeah, I haven't seen it. 41 00:01:56,994 --> 00:01:59,634 Speaker 2: Yeah. So we're having this confrontation on air now apologize 42 00:01:59,674 --> 00:02:01,994 Speaker 2: to all the June fans that changed and being like, oh, 43 00:02:02,034 --> 00:02:04,554 Speaker 2: but it is the third and finaland storm Age June 44 00:02:04,634 --> 00:02:06,914 Speaker 2: Part three and I mean, do you want me to 45 00:02:06,954 --> 00:02:09,394 Speaker 2: take before. I'm not even a huge June fan, which 46 00:02:09,434 --> 00:02:12,353 Speaker 2: I find that people would find, yeah, very strange. 47 00:02:12,394 --> 00:02:14,034 Speaker 1: I think I will enjoy it. I don't know how 48 00:02:14,874 --> 00:02:15,633 Speaker 1: get down on it. 49 00:02:15,994 --> 00:02:18,434 Speaker 3: I know, but I've even seen movies one or two, 50 00:02:18,754 --> 00:02:19,034 Speaker 3: I know. 51 00:02:19,474 --> 00:02:21,634 Speaker 4: I don't know how I've missed the past decade, the 52 00:02:21,674 --> 00:02:24,634 Speaker 4: decade of this franchise that everybody has been talking about. 53 00:02:24,674 --> 00:02:26,914 Speaker 1: I feel like it's such big roles as well for 54 00:02:26,954 --> 00:02:27,474 Speaker 1: those two. 55 00:02:27,514 --> 00:02:29,674 Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, it's a gettle. It can't show stuff what 56 00:02:29,714 --> 00:02:30,674 Speaker 2: a huge franchise it is. 57 00:02:30,834 --> 00:02:31,314 Speaker 3: I liked. 58 00:02:31,434 --> 00:02:34,353 Speaker 2: I liked the original movie quite a lot. I liked 59 00:02:34,434 --> 00:02:36,274 Speaker 2: June Part one, the first one. I thought it was 60 00:02:36,314 --> 00:02:38,554 Speaker 2: quite fun. Freaking love a sandworm, let me tell you, 61 00:02:38,954 --> 00:02:39,754 Speaker 2: that was my favorite. 62 00:02:39,714 --> 00:02:41,594 Speaker 1: I know what a sandworm is. 63 00:02:42,114 --> 00:02:43,793 Speaker 3: It's a huge thing. I can put it together, but 64 00:02:44,154 --> 00:02:47,754 Speaker 3: it's not. It's not like a weird euphemism. It's a huge. 65 00:02:49,474 --> 00:02:51,714 Speaker 3: It's a huge. 66 00:02:52,594 --> 00:02:55,794 Speaker 2: It's a huge worm that moves under the sand, and 67 00:02:55,834 --> 00:02:58,714 Speaker 2: if it feels the vibrations on this planet they live on, 68 00:02:59,154 --> 00:03:00,274 Speaker 2: it'll come up from the sand. 69 00:03:00,274 --> 00:03:03,794 Speaker 3: It'll get you. Oh no, it's actually incredible. After this, 70 00:03:03,954 --> 00:03:06,594 Speaker 3: I just so you're crying after this, Can I please 71 00:03:06,594 --> 00:03:08,274 Speaker 3: show you a clip for the same, because I do 72 00:03:08,354 --> 00:03:08,913 Speaker 3: like to show people. 73 00:03:08,954 --> 00:03:10,554 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home and watch the sad I'm gonna 74 00:03:10,554 --> 00:03:11,874 Speaker 1: go home and watch I. 75 00:03:11,834 --> 00:03:13,114 Speaker 3: Can't wait for you at least one. 76 00:03:13,234 --> 00:03:15,073 Speaker 2: So it's just on your Instagram. Tonight put up a 77 00:03:15,114 --> 00:03:16,874 Speaker 2: review of this movie as if it's just come out. 78 00:03:17,114 --> 00:03:17,834 Speaker 3: I think I have to. 79 00:03:18,034 --> 00:03:18,794 Speaker 1: I have to before this. 80 00:03:20,074 --> 00:03:23,434 Speaker 3: So the first trailer for the third movie has come out. 81 00:03:23,474 --> 00:03:27,434 Speaker 3: Here's a little taste. If we have a girl, Oh 82 00:03:27,474 --> 00:03:34,034 Speaker 3: we name her her name? Should she need to be 83 00:03:34,114 --> 00:03:35,394 Speaker 3: strong like her mother? 84 00:03:39,434 --> 00:03:40,834 Speaker 4: Co a name him letter. 85 00:03:43,354 --> 00:03:45,874 Speaker 1: So you would have to whistle of his grandfather. 86 00:03:47,754 --> 00:03:50,754 Speaker 2: The last three movie, we see Timothy Challomey and I'm 87 00:03:50,794 --> 00:03:52,434 Speaker 2: using their names for your comfort because you know who 88 00:03:52,434 --> 00:03:55,514 Speaker 2: anyone is. Timothy Challomey and Zendaya's characters have come back 89 00:03:55,514 --> 00:03:58,394 Speaker 2: together after events of the last movie. She's pregnant. There's 90 00:03:58,394 --> 00:04:01,234 Speaker 2: a whole conversation around that. There's an uprising, there's a war. 91 00:04:01,394 --> 00:04:04,074 Speaker 2: Florence Pugh was also back. She was in the second movie, 92 00:04:04,314 --> 00:04:07,514 Speaker 2: and Robert Pattinson is in there as a villain, which 93 00:04:07,554 --> 00:04:11,554 Speaker 2: is interesting because their premiere for the drama was this week. Yeah, 94 00:04:11,594 --> 00:04:13,514 Speaker 2: and you see how she wore her Oscars dress from 95 00:04:13,554 --> 00:04:14,554 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. 96 00:04:14,714 --> 00:04:15,594 Speaker 1: I kind of love that. 97 00:04:15,714 --> 00:04:17,714 Speaker 2: I love an outfit because she said her in law 98 00:04:17,794 --> 00:04:20,514 Speaker 2: roach were brainstorming how she would theme dress like she 99 00:04:21,113 --> 00:04:21,433 Speaker 2: loved her. 100 00:04:21,474 --> 00:04:23,794 Speaker 3: She's like, I'm theme dressing for everything. Now is day out. 101 00:04:24,234 --> 00:04:26,714 Speaker 2: They can't wait to see her kill her Jean Parts 102 00:04:26,714 --> 00:04:29,753 Speaker 2: three Oscar insane, and she was brainstorming what does a 103 00:04:29,794 --> 00:04:31,994 Speaker 2: wedding mean? Not talking about her wedding, of course, which 104 00:04:31,993 --> 00:04:35,473 Speaker 2: we happened recently, and she was saying that you have 105 00:04:35,594 --> 00:04:38,874 Speaker 2: something borrowed, something blue, something old, something new. So her 106 00:04:38,953 --> 00:04:41,794 Speaker 2: dress from twenty fifteen to the Oscars, the one where 107 00:04:41,834 --> 00:04:43,993 Speaker 2: she got called out for having dreadlocks. 108 00:04:43,553 --> 00:04:44,033 Speaker 3: Do you remember that? 109 00:04:44,513 --> 00:04:44,913 Speaker 5: Yeah? 110 00:04:44,993 --> 00:04:46,593 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I love that she's getting to re wear 111 00:04:46,594 --> 00:04:49,434 Speaker 2: that beautiful dress without anyone saying horrifically racist things about her. 112 00:04:49,914 --> 00:04:52,514 Speaker 2: And that was her something old. So she's in full 113 00:04:52,594 --> 00:04:55,273 Speaker 2: So yeah. So her ro Pattinson did the drama together 114 00:04:55,313 --> 00:04:57,954 Speaker 2: and they also did June three. The other interesting thing 115 00:04:57,953 --> 00:05:00,354 Speaker 2: about the trailer coming out is something that we said 116 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:02,593 Speaker 2: during our Oscar special that I think is very apparent 117 00:05:02,674 --> 00:05:06,153 Speaker 2: now is that it's just a reminder that Timothy Shallamy, yes, 118 00:05:06,193 --> 00:05:08,914 Speaker 2: he's had a bit of a rough a few rough weeks, 119 00:05:09,154 --> 00:05:11,713 Speaker 2: but he's going to be fine because he's star with 120 00:05:11,753 --> 00:05:15,314 Speaker 2: a multimillion dollar franchise that's coming out and plus a 121 00:05:15,354 --> 00:05:18,393 Speaker 2: whole bunch of other huge movies that you actually. 122 00:05:18,073 --> 00:05:20,394 Speaker 4: Googles his age today and what do you think he was. 123 00:05:20,553 --> 00:05:24,354 Speaker 4: I'm at an age now where I'm either older or 124 00:05:24,393 --> 00:05:27,034 Speaker 4: the same atch he's thirty. I'm about to turn thirty. 125 00:05:27,513 --> 00:05:30,234 Speaker 4: But that still shocked me because whenever I see anyone 126 00:05:30,313 --> 00:05:32,473 Speaker 4: like younger coming through the ranks, I'm like, oh, Like 127 00:05:32,513 --> 00:05:34,914 Speaker 4: I was looking at I think Daisy Egga Jones from 128 00:05:34,914 --> 00:05:36,674 Speaker 4: Normal People twenty seven to twenty eight. 129 00:05:36,714 --> 00:05:38,153 Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, that's fucking crazy. 130 00:05:38,193 --> 00:05:40,354 Speaker 3: I know, why did I think that she was a 131 00:05:40,354 --> 00:05:42,354 Speaker 3: lot older than that? I know, yeah, maybe she has 132 00:05:42,433 --> 00:05:43,713 Speaker 3: she has a very dignified air. 133 00:05:43,914 --> 00:05:45,993 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it humbles me. 134 00:05:46,674 --> 00:05:49,433 Speaker 2: Well, he has a young energy though, So I also 135 00:05:49,433 --> 00:05:51,474 Speaker 2: think it's interesting the trailer coming out, and like there's 136 00:05:51,513 --> 00:05:53,913 Speaker 2: been a really good reception to it. People are so excited. 137 00:05:53,993 --> 00:05:56,834 Speaker 2: It looks so incredible, and he's obviously great in it. 138 00:05:56,873 --> 00:05:59,354 Speaker 2: So I think it is just like the Oscars drama 139 00:05:59,393 --> 00:06:01,834 Speaker 2: and the Ballet Opera drama is already signed to seem 140 00:06:01,914 --> 00:06:04,234 Speaker 2: like a carpet. It'll always be brought up a little 141 00:06:04,274 --> 00:06:06,794 Speaker 2: bit around him, but it's going to be a distant 142 00:06:06,834 --> 00:06:08,954 Speaker 2: memory in terms of like where his career is going 143 00:06:08,993 --> 00:06:11,113 Speaker 2: to go, for better or for worse. I'm not defending him. 144 00:06:11,113 --> 00:06:13,874 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that he's a pretty set lock. He's 145 00:06:13,873 --> 00:06:15,593 Speaker 2: a pretty locked in superstar in Hollywood. 146 00:06:15,633 --> 00:06:16,154 Speaker 1: He's locked in. 147 00:06:16,234 --> 00:06:18,953 Speaker 4: And because he's so young, I think not getting his 148 00:06:19,034 --> 00:06:21,953 Speaker 4: Oscar yet, I'm not totally surprised, Like, are they just 149 00:06:21,953 --> 00:06:22,794 Speaker 4: trying to make him wait a. 150 00:06:22,794 --> 00:06:23,873 Speaker 3: Little bit'll make him wait now? 151 00:06:23,953 --> 00:06:24,113 Speaker 1: Yah. 152 00:06:24,113 --> 00:06:25,474 Speaker 2: I think they probably would have given it to him 153 00:06:25,474 --> 00:06:28,033 Speaker 2: in the next few years. But I think this whole situation, 154 00:06:28,073 --> 00:06:30,313 Speaker 2: they're going to make him, make him wait a little bit. Yeah, 155 00:06:30,354 --> 00:06:31,674 Speaker 2: but he will eventually get. 156 00:06:31,474 --> 00:06:33,074 Speaker 3: One or two. He'll be fine. 157 00:06:33,354 --> 00:06:36,274 Speaker 2: So June Part three is coming out in Cinema's December seventeen, 158 00:06:36,474 --> 00:06:37,393 Speaker 2: Mark and your calendar have. 159 00:06:37,474 --> 00:06:38,473 Speaker 1: Not time to watch. 160 00:06:39,034 --> 00:06:40,314 Speaker 3: To do is don't watch. 161 00:06:40,073 --> 00:06:41,633 Speaker 2: One and two and just go to the movies and 162 00:06:41,633 --> 00:06:43,594 Speaker 2: watch three and see if you can figure out what's happening. 163 00:06:44,474 --> 00:06:46,393 Speaker 2: But just watch the Sandwam clips beforehand. 164 00:06:46,474 --> 00:06:47,593 Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll show them to me. 165 00:06:49,993 --> 00:06:51,713 Speaker 2: And now it's the moment you've all been waiting for 166 00:06:51,914 --> 00:06:53,634 Speaker 2: or just going to tall weight, depending on how you 167 00:06:53,633 --> 00:06:55,594 Speaker 2: feel about this show. It's time to talk about merrit 168 00:06:55,594 --> 00:06:56,074 Speaker 2: at first sight. 169 00:06:56,113 --> 00:06:59,234 Speaker 4: Following a super explosive weekend away where all of our 170 00:06:59,274 --> 00:07:01,914 Speaker 4: couples were dragged into drama and we were left with 171 00:07:02,313 --> 00:07:06,354 Speaker 4: a massive cliffhanger of these secret text messages. Now we're 172 00:07:06,513 --> 00:07:09,713 Speaker 4: entering feedback week, which always sounds like a good idea. 173 00:07:09,953 --> 00:07:12,634 Speaker 4: We've got a partner swap and we've got anonymous letters 174 00:07:12,674 --> 00:07:14,994 Speaker 4: flying around, so we know that we're in for a 175 00:07:15,034 --> 00:07:15,754 Speaker 4: trait this week. 176 00:07:15,914 --> 00:07:17,674 Speaker 2: Yes, I actually thought the partner swap was going to 177 00:07:17,714 --> 00:07:20,393 Speaker 2: be like the name suggests, something much sexier and a 178 00:07:20,474 --> 00:07:23,474 Speaker 2: much more intense reality show. But basically, they just get 179 00:07:23,514 --> 00:07:25,954 Speaker 2: paired with another couple from the experiment to go sit 180 00:07:25,994 --> 00:07:27,833 Speaker 2: in an empty bar that they've paid to clear out 181 00:07:27,834 --> 00:07:29,794 Speaker 2: for the day, have a few drinks, and have a 182 00:07:29,914 --> 00:07:33,153 Speaker 2: very on camera conversation. So nothing too juicy there, but 183 00:07:33,194 --> 00:07:36,434 Speaker 2: the text messages. So that was Juliette's parting gift or 184 00:07:36,514 --> 00:07:37,913 Speaker 2: parting bomb that she left. 185 00:07:38,074 --> 00:07:41,194 Speaker 4: Yes, after the fallout of finger bang gate last week 186 00:07:41,234 --> 00:07:41,474 Speaker 4: that we. 187 00:07:41,434 --> 00:07:42,674 Speaker 3: Saw, I'm so glad I missed that. 188 00:07:42,754 --> 00:07:45,714 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've missed out on a lot. We've never used 189 00:07:45,714 --> 00:07:47,154 Speaker 1: the word finger bang war in my. 190 00:07:47,434 --> 00:07:49,954 Speaker 3: Yeah, it one more time for the road. 191 00:07:50,554 --> 00:07:53,354 Speaker 4: So Juliette caught it quits when she was confronted on 192 00:07:53,393 --> 00:07:57,234 Speaker 4: her actions by the experts. She just was overwhelmed, I think, 193 00:07:57,634 --> 00:08:00,594 Speaker 4: and had nothing left in the tank. I think she 194 00:08:00,794 --> 00:08:03,514 Speaker 4: was probably good to go at that point, but she 195 00:08:03,594 --> 00:08:06,074 Speaker 4: had a part of gift and she sent off some 196 00:08:06,194 --> 00:08:09,874 Speaker 4: screenshots that she'd received from gr that Beck had sent 197 00:08:10,034 --> 00:08:14,114 Speaker 4: about Alissa and David's relationship, and we finally had those 198 00:08:14,154 --> 00:08:16,953 Speaker 4: revealed to us this week. I honestly thought the text 199 00:08:16,994 --> 00:08:19,314 Speaker 4: were a little underwhelming, Like well, I thought that. 200 00:08:19,354 --> 00:08:22,194 Speaker 2: Too until I realized and obviously this has brought up 201 00:08:22,194 --> 00:08:23,114 Speaker 2: more at the dinner party. 202 00:08:23,274 --> 00:08:25,434 Speaker 3: They were very underwhelming. I mean, it's not nice to 203 00:08:25,434 --> 00:08:28,033 Speaker 3: be called a rat, but I don't know. 204 00:08:28,114 --> 00:08:29,834 Speaker 2: Rat man is like a thing now, I don't know, 205 00:08:30,034 --> 00:08:32,634 Speaker 2: and like a rat girl summer like it's actually i'd 206 00:08:32,674 --> 00:08:34,514 Speaker 2: be like, thank you. Also, I hate rats, but they're 207 00:08:34,554 --> 00:08:37,354 Speaker 2: apparently very intelligent and they make good pets and they 208 00:08:37,434 --> 00:08:39,274 Speaker 2: self clean, so there's lots of good. 209 00:08:39,074 --> 00:08:40,554 Speaker 1: Stuff they're selling me on a rat. 210 00:08:40,594 --> 00:08:42,714 Speaker 2: Well, it's because I hate rats so much that often 211 00:08:42,714 --> 00:08:43,794 Speaker 2: people who have them as pets. 212 00:08:43,794 --> 00:08:45,954 Speaker 3: I assume people have them as pets. Start telling me 213 00:08:45,994 --> 00:08:46,474 Speaker 3: all they're good. 214 00:08:46,514 --> 00:08:47,954 Speaker 1: You don't want to offend, I don't. 215 00:08:47,794 --> 00:08:50,314 Speaker 2: Want friend the rat community. Just don't bring don't bring 216 00:08:50,354 --> 00:08:51,994 Speaker 2: your rights near me. You keep them in your house. 217 00:08:52,034 --> 00:08:53,954 Speaker 2: And that's totally fine in a cage. 218 00:08:54,154 --> 00:08:54,354 Speaker 3: Yes. 219 00:08:54,394 --> 00:08:56,434 Speaker 2: So the way those texts were built up, and the 220 00:08:56,474 --> 00:08:59,634 Speaker 2: Wayless was crying, and she's like, I've never seen such language. 221 00:08:59,714 --> 00:09:02,074 Speaker 3: I've never been called such things. Who could say that. 222 00:09:02,314 --> 00:09:05,074 Speaker 2: Everyone kept saying, like the language, the language, and then 223 00:09:05,074 --> 00:09:07,594 Speaker 2: she's like and she called me a rat, and you're 224 00:09:07,594 --> 00:09:08,914 Speaker 2: waiting for the next bit to come. 225 00:09:09,514 --> 00:09:12,674 Speaker 3: It was so underwhelming until you realize that whatever. 226 00:09:12,354 --> 00:09:15,114 Speaker 2: Else Beck said those messages is so heinous they couldn't 227 00:09:15,114 --> 00:09:18,314 Speaker 2: air it. It's all beeped out, it's all covered. So 228 00:09:18,674 --> 00:09:21,314 Speaker 2: she apparently said something, and you see the experts reaction. 229 00:09:21,474 --> 00:09:23,314 Speaker 2: Not that I said a lot of stock by the experts, 230 00:09:23,314 --> 00:09:25,194 Speaker 2: because half the time, I'm like, they could be in 231 00:09:25,194 --> 00:09:30,074 Speaker 2: a completely different room, city world. They're not really involved 232 00:09:30,074 --> 00:09:31,914 Speaker 2: in what's going on. They have really nothing to say, 233 00:09:32,314 --> 00:09:35,394 Speaker 2: but they were quite visibly shocked when the text messages 234 00:09:35,434 --> 00:09:37,794 Speaker 2: were read out the dinner party. So whatever it is 235 00:09:37,834 --> 00:09:40,394 Speaker 2: in there is pretty vile. It's so vile they couldn't 236 00:09:40,434 --> 00:09:41,794 Speaker 2: air it on free to air television. 237 00:09:42,034 --> 00:09:43,594 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can really air that much 238 00:09:43,634 --> 00:09:44,634 Speaker 1: on free to air television. 239 00:09:44,754 --> 00:09:47,314 Speaker 3: You really can't get that shit on Netflix. 240 00:09:47,394 --> 00:09:49,274 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like I think, when there's a lot of 241 00:09:49,314 --> 00:09:51,634 Speaker 4: swearing involved as well, I just don't take that much 242 00:09:51,674 --> 00:09:52,834 Speaker 4: offense to like swears. 243 00:09:53,234 --> 00:09:54,634 Speaker 2: No, but I think it was I think it was 244 00:09:54,714 --> 00:09:57,994 Speaker 2: worse than that because it was there's again so much 245 00:09:58,034 --> 00:10:01,714 Speaker 2: beeped out, but I think she was saying really heinous derogatory, 246 00:10:01,834 --> 00:10:04,754 Speaker 2: using a lot of really offensive language, just in such 247 00:10:04,754 --> 00:10:07,554 Speaker 2: an intense way that I think if we we actually 248 00:10:07,594 --> 00:10:09,314 Speaker 2: saw the text messages, which has been the theme of 249 00:10:09,314 --> 00:10:12,354 Speaker 2: this whole season, the actual proper part of Merrit at 250 00:10:12,394 --> 00:10:14,714 Speaker 2: first sight is happening on text messages, and we'll never 251 00:10:14,754 --> 00:10:18,274 Speaker 2: see it. We're seeing a diluted, edited version because they're 252 00:10:18,314 --> 00:10:20,154 Speaker 2: having all the drama from the show off screen. 253 00:10:20,314 --> 00:10:22,194 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think in a group chat as well from 254 00:10:22,194 --> 00:10:24,474 Speaker 4: people and not even on the series anymore. 255 00:10:24,794 --> 00:10:25,274 Speaker 3: Sorry. 256 00:10:25,434 --> 00:10:27,194 Speaker 2: I know they can't have them together all the time 257 00:10:27,274 --> 00:10:29,594 Speaker 2: and they want the drama to boil over. But for 258 00:10:29,634 --> 00:10:32,234 Speaker 2: a season where most of the drama has been between 259 00:10:32,274 --> 00:10:35,354 Speaker 2: the contestants and not between couples. Allowing them to have 260 00:10:35,394 --> 00:10:37,834 Speaker 2: group chats and off screen chats. I think has really 261 00:10:37,874 --> 00:10:40,354 Speaker 2: diluted the drama or the storytelling because they're always playing 262 00:10:40,394 --> 00:10:42,114 Speaker 2: catch up. And then because it was said in a 263 00:10:42,154 --> 00:10:44,514 Speaker 2: text message and they can't read it, we're not show 264 00:10:44,554 --> 00:10:46,914 Speaker 2: exactly what's going on. But whatever was in there, Alissa 265 00:10:47,114 --> 00:10:50,114 Speaker 2: was very upset and that became the thread through the 266 00:10:50,154 --> 00:10:52,554 Speaker 2: feedback week and all through the different couples. 267 00:10:52,714 --> 00:10:53,594 Speaker 1: I guess as well. 268 00:10:54,074 --> 00:10:56,434 Speaker 4: The gist of the text messages, she's being called out 269 00:10:56,434 --> 00:10:59,434 Speaker 4: for apparently being in a fake relationship that she's an 270 00:10:59,434 --> 00:11:02,074 Speaker 4: influencer want to be if it is a fake relationship, 271 00:11:02,074 --> 00:11:03,514 Speaker 4: They're like, really not getting enough fair time? 272 00:11:03,634 --> 00:11:05,354 Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think let's give us since we're 273 00:11:05,354 --> 00:11:08,034 Speaker 2: talking about this, and since we've got ourselves into this situation. 274 00:11:08,394 --> 00:11:10,514 Speaker 3: Who is a fake couple and who's not? Do you 275 00:11:10,554 --> 00:11:12,594 Speaker 3: think Alyssa and David? What's your vibe on them? 276 00:11:12,634 --> 00:11:14,514 Speaker 4: What I think is interesting is I don't see that 277 00:11:14,554 --> 00:11:18,114 Speaker 4: many people defending them. They seem like one of the 278 00:11:18,154 --> 00:11:20,834 Speaker 4: most real couples out of this entire show. It's also 279 00:11:20,994 --> 00:11:23,394 Speaker 4: not seen a lot. I don't know anything about them. 280 00:11:23,474 --> 00:11:24,674 Speaker 4: They just seem quite happy. 281 00:11:24,794 --> 00:11:25,794 Speaker 3: But they do seem. 282 00:11:25,554 --> 00:11:28,234 Speaker 2: Quite happy and you just chill, And I don't think 283 00:11:28,234 --> 00:11:30,914 Speaker 2: that they're super like, let's in love get married. They 284 00:11:30,994 --> 00:11:33,394 Speaker 2: feel like the appropriate place of where they should be 285 00:11:33,474 --> 00:11:35,314 Speaker 2: for people who have known each other for two months 286 00:11:35,634 --> 00:11:37,994 Speaker 2: is that they're in that kind of bubbly we've just 287 00:11:38,034 --> 00:11:40,314 Speaker 2: started hanging out face, which is the appropriate place for 288 00:11:40,314 --> 00:11:42,434 Speaker 2: them to be in. And I actually think David might 289 00:11:42,434 --> 00:11:43,714 Speaker 2: be my favorite of all the guys. 290 00:11:43,794 --> 00:11:48,194 Speaker 4: Yeah, he seems crazy, headache, quite chill for Alyssa. 291 00:11:48,474 --> 00:11:50,794 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I haven't seen any I mean, obviously we're 292 00:11:50,794 --> 00:11:52,794 Speaker 2: already seeing a tiny little bit. I think the reason 293 00:11:52,834 --> 00:11:54,554 Speaker 2: I find him hot because I didn't find him hot 294 00:11:54,554 --> 00:11:56,674 Speaker 2: at a start. I found none of them hot just 295 00:11:56,714 --> 00:11:58,794 Speaker 2: because the men on the show, their behavior is so 296 00:11:58,914 --> 00:12:01,274 Speaker 2: terrible that I can't find any of them hot the 297 00:12:01,314 --> 00:12:03,194 Speaker 2: first time, because I'm like, I bet in one episode 298 00:12:03,394 --> 00:12:06,274 Speaker 2: I'm gonna find repulsive and they all look the same. 299 00:12:06,674 --> 00:12:10,234 Speaker 2: But his behavior has been quite nice. That has made 300 00:12:10,314 --> 00:12:12,594 Speaker 2: him hotter, and that's where we're at. So they seem 301 00:12:12,714 --> 00:12:13,634 Speaker 2: quite chilling and happy. 302 00:12:13,714 --> 00:12:15,994 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's like a showmance 303 00:12:16,034 --> 00:12:18,034 Speaker 4: because I'm not seeing enough from it, Like they're not 304 00:12:18,274 --> 00:12:20,874 Speaker 4: confessing their love at the table, Like last week we 305 00:12:20,914 --> 00:12:23,274 Speaker 4: had Scott at the dinner party saying, you know, you're 306 00:12:23,354 --> 00:12:23,954 Speaker 4: my soulmate. 307 00:12:24,074 --> 00:12:25,954 Speaker 1: He's just announced it there for the very first time. 308 00:12:26,474 --> 00:12:28,834 Speaker 4: So I think that is kind of making a big 309 00:12:29,034 --> 00:12:30,994 Speaker 4: drama around your own relationship. And I don't see that 310 00:12:30,994 --> 00:12:32,794 Speaker 4: from David and Alissa, Like they just seem to be 311 00:12:32,834 --> 00:12:34,954 Speaker 4: like doing their own thing. But I do find it 312 00:12:34,994 --> 00:12:37,074 Speaker 4: interesting that no one is like rushing to their aid 313 00:12:37,154 --> 00:12:39,514 Speaker 4: to defend, you know, yeah, that they're not a fake couple. 314 00:12:39,634 --> 00:12:41,074 Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that made me 315 00:12:41,114 --> 00:12:43,314 Speaker 2: think that they're probably exactly what they appear to be, 316 00:12:43,314 --> 00:12:45,114 Speaker 2: which is two people who have just started dating, is 317 00:12:45,154 --> 00:12:48,314 Speaker 2: when they came back from their partner swap things and 318 00:12:48,394 --> 00:12:50,833 Speaker 2: he had been teed up with Beck, which obviously the 319 00:12:50,914 --> 00:12:53,434 Speaker 2: prosducers did to try and get the scandal about the 320 00:12:53,474 --> 00:12:56,354 Speaker 2: messages to keep going, but they did they couldn't pair 321 00:12:56,434 --> 00:12:58,474 Speaker 2: Alyssa and Beck together. I mean, they weren't pairing two 322 00:12:58,474 --> 00:13:00,274 Speaker 2: women together anyway, but they couldn't do that because they 323 00:13:00,274 --> 00:13:02,674 Speaker 2: wanted them to have that big fight at the dinner party, 324 00:13:02,874 --> 00:13:04,954 Speaker 2: and Alyssa had said to David, please don't bring up 325 00:13:04,954 --> 00:13:06,474 Speaker 2: the text messages I want to do at the dinner 326 00:13:06,714 --> 00:13:08,514 Speaker 2: and he did, and that was the first time you 327 00:13:08,554 --> 00:13:10,833 Speaker 2: saw them have like a bit of friction, but they 328 00:13:10,874 --> 00:13:12,754 Speaker 2: moved through it quite easily in a normal way where 329 00:13:12,794 --> 00:13:14,074 Speaker 2: he was like, no, I know you said that, but 330 00:13:14,274 --> 00:13:16,114 Speaker 2: she brought it up, and what was I chosed to say? 331 00:13:16,634 --> 00:13:18,754 Speaker 1: What else have they got to talk about? Literally, do 332 00:13:18,834 --> 00:13:20,914 Speaker 1: these two people haven't come on? What else can they talk? 333 00:13:21,074 --> 00:13:23,354 Speaker 2: And again, we've seen a lot of producer sort of 334 00:13:23,434 --> 00:13:26,674 Speaker 2: interference in this season, and we've seen producers chasing people 335 00:13:26,714 --> 00:13:28,754 Speaker 2: and prompting them, and we know that they do. I mean, 336 00:13:28,754 --> 00:13:30,674 Speaker 2: you would know better than anyone how much the producers 337 00:13:30,674 --> 00:13:33,274 Speaker 2: prompt you to say stuff. And I'm sure that even 338 00:13:33,314 --> 00:13:35,554 Speaker 2: if they hadn't brought up the text messages Dave and Beck, 339 00:13:35,594 --> 00:13:37,594 Speaker 2: a producer would have prompted them to the point where. 340 00:13:37,474 --> 00:13:38,234 Speaker 3: They had to say it. 341 00:13:38,354 --> 00:13:39,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Yeah. 342 00:13:39,674 --> 00:13:42,194 Speaker 4: I think it's interesting in the couples that who is 343 00:13:42,234 --> 00:13:44,874 Speaker 4: having a showmance? You know, Beck is very quick to 344 00:13:44,914 --> 00:13:47,914 Speaker 4: say that they're in a fake relationship, but I just 345 00:13:48,034 --> 00:13:50,074 Speaker 4: cannot help but look at her and Danny and think, 346 00:13:50,314 --> 00:13:51,674 Speaker 4: there's no way this is ever gonna work. 347 00:13:51,674 --> 00:13:53,514 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, let's have that conversation before we get to 348 00:13:53,554 --> 00:13:56,474 Speaker 2: the dinner party. I cannot put my finger on these two, 349 00:13:57,074 --> 00:13:58,953 Speaker 2: but what I would go out to say is that 350 00:13:59,114 --> 00:14:02,194 Speaker 2: Beck quite likes him because he's the one that she's 351 00:14:02,234 --> 00:14:04,394 Speaker 2: been paired with and she wants us to work. 352 00:14:04,714 --> 00:14:09,634 Speaker 3: And he he's just there, He's just there. I don't 353 00:14:09,674 --> 00:14:11,834 Speaker 3: think they're together at all. 354 00:14:12,154 --> 00:14:12,394 Speaker 1: No. 355 00:14:12,754 --> 00:14:15,074 Speaker 2: I think they've probably been physically together, but they're out 356 00:14:15,114 --> 00:14:16,794 Speaker 2: of all the romances. And the thing is, I don't 357 00:14:16,794 --> 00:14:19,394 Speaker 2: think they I think they're lying to themselves and they're 358 00:14:19,394 --> 00:14:21,274 Speaker 2: just trying to get through a TV show filming. 359 00:14:21,554 --> 00:14:21,794 Speaker 1: Yeah. 360 00:14:21,874 --> 00:14:23,794 Speaker 4: I think Beck has a lot of like her self 361 00:14:23,914 --> 00:14:27,514 Speaker 4: esteem issues, and I think like obviously ego comes into it, 362 00:14:27,554 --> 00:14:30,034 Speaker 4: and she doesn't want to feel, you know, rejected, and 363 00:14:30,074 --> 00:14:33,794 Speaker 4: she often like is breaking down to producers about you know, how. 364 00:14:33,674 --> 00:14:35,594 Speaker 1: Does he really feel? What's he going to say? 365 00:14:35,754 --> 00:14:38,474 Speaker 4: But we don't see him like mirroring any of that, 366 00:14:38,554 --> 00:14:39,874 Speaker 4: Like it's not a power balance. 367 00:14:39,914 --> 00:14:44,114 Speaker 3: He's very robotic, Yeah, as if like he's just moving. 368 00:14:44,474 --> 00:14:47,834 Speaker 2: Moving through and just sort of telling her what she 369 00:14:47,914 --> 00:14:51,514 Speaker 2: wants to hear. They don't seem like super affectionate at all. No, 370 00:14:51,674 --> 00:14:53,834 Speaker 2: And again i'd see me reserved on a TV show, 371 00:14:53,914 --> 00:14:56,114 Speaker 2: but it feels like she is just trying to get 372 00:14:56,154 --> 00:14:58,754 Speaker 2: through and she's having these big emotional outbursts, and then 373 00:14:58,754 --> 00:15:00,674 Speaker 2: it feels like he is just counting down the days 374 00:15:00,754 --> 00:15:02,994 Speaker 2: they can separate and get off a TV show, like 375 00:15:03,034 --> 00:15:03,554 Speaker 2: he seems. 376 00:15:04,074 --> 00:15:04,914 Speaker 3: Danny seems the. 377 00:15:04,874 --> 00:15:07,394 Speaker 2: Most aware that they're on a TV show. Out of yeah, 378 00:15:07,474 --> 00:15:10,674 Speaker 2: everyone on that cast. The one time I've really agreed 379 00:15:10,714 --> 00:15:12,474 Speaker 2: with Beck not that I should give this woman a 380 00:15:12,514 --> 00:15:14,154 Speaker 2: lot of thought, but the one time I really agree 381 00:15:14,194 --> 00:15:16,234 Speaker 2: with her is when she said to him, am I 382 00:15:16,314 --> 00:15:18,794 Speaker 2: your girlfriend? And he was all like, oh, well, when 383 00:15:18,834 --> 00:15:20,834 Speaker 2: I came on the show, I took the marriage seriously. 384 00:15:20,914 --> 00:15:23,074 Speaker 2: So for me, that still feels like a step back. 385 00:15:23,674 --> 00:15:26,994 Speaker 2: And I'll say it if you want, but I feel 386 00:15:27,034 --> 00:15:29,154 Speaker 2: like calling you my girlfriend is a bit offensive, and 387 00:15:29,194 --> 00:15:32,354 Speaker 2: she was like, it actually means more paraphrasing all that. Obviously, 388 00:15:32,634 --> 00:15:34,354 Speaker 2: I really agree with her that in the world of 389 00:15:34,514 --> 00:15:38,194 Speaker 2: married at first sight, being called a girlfriend carries a 390 00:15:38,234 --> 00:15:40,914 Speaker 2: lot more weight and a lot more love and respect 391 00:15:40,954 --> 00:15:43,034 Speaker 2: and a lot more importance than being called a. 392 00:15:43,034 --> 00:15:45,954 Speaker 4: Wife totally, because it pulls into the real world, full 393 00:15:45,994 --> 00:15:49,714 Speaker 4: blown delusional to consider it like a real marriage. 394 00:15:49,754 --> 00:15:52,114 Speaker 1: Exactly, you know your wife. He was like, you're now 395 00:15:52,154 --> 00:15:55,194 Speaker 1: the first wife and a girlfriend. I'm like, you sound insane. 396 00:15:55,394 --> 00:15:56,474 Speaker 3: You sound insane, sir. 397 00:15:56,594 --> 00:15:58,754 Speaker 2: That's so true because people in that show call each 398 00:15:58,754 --> 00:16:02,434 Speaker 2: other husband and wife when they have never physically touched, 399 00:16:02,434 --> 00:16:04,434 Speaker 2: when they haven't spoken, when they don't know each other's 400 00:16:04,714 --> 00:16:07,994 Speaker 2: middle names, when they're staying to me, when they're staying 401 00:16:07,994 --> 00:16:10,914 Speaker 2: in separate hotel room and they say wife, that means nothing. 402 00:16:11,194 --> 00:16:11,794 Speaker 3: That's fake. 403 00:16:12,194 --> 00:16:14,194 Speaker 2: They don't get legally married, which only came to my 404 00:16:14,274 --> 00:16:16,674 Speaker 2: attention last year that some people didn't know that they 405 00:16:16,714 --> 00:16:18,994 Speaker 2: have no sort of kind of like formal build up. 406 00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:20,234 Speaker 3: Calling someone your. 407 00:16:20,154 --> 00:16:22,394 Speaker 2: Girlfriend in that setting is kind of being like, to me, 408 00:16:22,514 --> 00:16:24,314 Speaker 2: that's the ultimate, like we're doing this in the real 409 00:16:24,354 --> 00:16:26,834 Speaker 2: world sign and that means so much more than wife. 410 00:16:26,834 --> 00:16:28,514 Speaker 2: So everyone's shooting on back for that, And I was like, 411 00:16:28,554 --> 00:16:29,954 Speaker 2: that girl has a point. 412 00:16:29,874 --> 00:16:33,034 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I think she is personally invested 413 00:16:33,074 --> 00:16:33,234 Speaker 4: in it. 414 00:16:33,394 --> 00:16:34,034 Speaker 3: Yeah. 415 00:16:34,074 --> 00:16:36,834 Speaker 4: And I think like seeing her emotion throughout the whole 416 00:16:37,154 --> 00:16:40,274 Speaker 4: experiment and how she keeps getting roped into this drama, 417 00:16:40,434 --> 00:16:43,754 Speaker 4: like she is giving a lot of herself throughout it all. 418 00:16:44,354 --> 00:16:46,474 Speaker 4: And I think, again, I say this every week, someone 419 00:16:46,474 --> 00:16:47,874 Speaker 4: needs to check on her because she's just. 420 00:16:47,794 --> 00:16:49,674 Speaker 1: Like spiraling around. 421 00:16:49,794 --> 00:16:52,194 Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like she has this real conflict, like 422 00:16:52,594 --> 00:16:54,994 Speaker 4: she can't help but lash out at people, and then 423 00:16:55,114 --> 00:16:57,794 Speaker 4: she kind of like centers back down and yeah, like 424 00:16:58,034 --> 00:17:00,914 Speaker 4: give this grand apology, which she's becoming very good at. 425 00:17:01,074 --> 00:17:02,634 Speaker 2: I know, but also not again. We'll get to that 426 00:17:02,674 --> 00:17:05,274 Speaker 2: in dinner party stuff, but also a non apology. Here's 427 00:17:05,273 --> 00:17:06,833 Speaker 2: the thing about the techolisage. Just though we don't know 428 00:17:06,874 --> 00:17:08,793 Speaker 2: what they said, but from all the reactions, we know 429 00:17:08,834 --> 00:17:12,074 Speaker 2: they're very, very terrible and like terrible language and vicious, 430 00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:14,194 Speaker 2: to the point that even people who are on a 431 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:17,594 Speaker 2: show to be vicious were offended by the hook. 432 00:17:17,514 --> 00:17:19,674 Speaker 1: Shocked every time she finds out someone has seen it. 433 00:17:20,234 --> 00:17:23,314 Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, and that moment was actually quite cinematic 434 00:17:23,314 --> 00:17:24,794 Speaker 2: for marrit at first sight. And all of a sudden, 435 00:17:24,794 --> 00:17:26,234 Speaker 2: they's like and the text have been sent to everyone, 436 00:17:26,274 --> 00:17:27,674 Speaker 2: and they were popping up all the text. 437 00:17:27,474 --> 00:17:28,874 Speaker 1: Messages like who sent them? 438 00:17:29,074 --> 00:17:29,994 Speaker 3: Visuals are producers? 439 00:17:30,034 --> 00:17:33,194 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like the text were sent around by. 440 00:17:33,114 --> 00:17:35,513 Speaker 3: Us, by us on the show who had them ready 441 00:17:35,554 --> 00:17:35,793 Speaker 3: to go. 442 00:17:36,194 --> 00:17:37,714 Speaker 2: The thing about that, though I know she was saying, 443 00:17:37,834 --> 00:17:39,914 Speaker 2: was two months ago, and I know she was saying 444 00:17:39,914 --> 00:17:41,073 Speaker 2: that I was just really upset. 445 00:17:41,114 --> 00:17:41,754 Speaker 3: But here's the thing. 446 00:17:41,754 --> 00:17:43,754 Speaker 2: I think whenever anyone gets called out for something they've 447 00:17:43,754 --> 00:17:45,634 Speaker 2: said in the past, is like, yes, you can change, 448 00:17:45,714 --> 00:17:47,194 Speaker 2: Yes you can say things in the heat of the moment. 449 00:17:47,314 --> 00:17:47,914 Speaker 3: Yes you can be. 450 00:17:47,874 --> 00:17:50,114 Speaker 2: Sorry, but you still have to have that in you 451 00:17:50,154 --> 00:17:52,313 Speaker 2: to have said it in the first place. And that 452 00:17:52,434 --> 00:17:54,194 Speaker 2: is what I think is the most troubling thing, because 453 00:17:54,194 --> 00:17:56,074 Speaker 2: even if other people had been upset, they wouldn't have 454 00:17:56,114 --> 00:17:56,994 Speaker 2: sent that level of. 455 00:17:57,354 --> 00:18:00,394 Speaker 1: No where one where does it come from? Too? 456 00:18:00,874 --> 00:18:03,994 Speaker 4: You actually haven't shown that much growth. Yes, you've been 457 00:18:03,994 --> 00:18:07,754 Speaker 4: in the hot seat continually, exactly, very weak. So yeah, 458 00:18:08,034 --> 00:18:10,554 Speaker 4: I think Beck has got some ways to go. Feel 459 00:18:10,594 --> 00:18:14,034 Speaker 4: like it's still in there, and she like fails repeatedly 460 00:18:14,074 --> 00:18:16,914 Speaker 4: to take any accountability because at the end of the 461 00:18:16,994 --> 00:18:19,474 Speaker 4: day she still is blaming Ja. 462 00:18:20,194 --> 00:18:23,154 Speaker 2: I know, she's like, it all comes back to Gea. 463 00:18:23,194 --> 00:18:24,394 Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, there's only ten of. 464 00:18:24,314 --> 00:18:26,394 Speaker 1: You, Like it comes back to you. 465 00:18:26,514 --> 00:18:29,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. There's other people who have not been here. 466 00:18:29,274 --> 00:18:31,033 Speaker 2: There's all people whose names I couldn't even tell you 467 00:18:31,074 --> 00:18:34,553 Speaker 2: because they have not been involved in any drama. Okay, 468 00:18:34,594 --> 00:18:36,793 Speaker 2: as we move to the dinner party, we have a 469 00:18:36,834 --> 00:18:38,553 Speaker 2: bit of a drama start in the car on the 470 00:18:38,554 --> 00:18:42,033 Speaker 2: way there. And that is our former Golden Couple. No, 471 00:18:42,154 --> 00:18:43,914 Speaker 2: not to quote Tyra Banks, because I know she's on 472 00:18:43,954 --> 00:18:45,273 Speaker 2: the outs, but we were rooting for you. 473 00:18:45,394 --> 00:18:49,033 Speaker 3: We were all rooting for you. I had Christ and Sam. Yeah, 474 00:18:49,314 --> 00:18:49,994 Speaker 3: I had hope. 475 00:18:50,154 --> 00:18:53,194 Speaker 4: I really liked them together. They just felt like they 476 00:18:53,194 --> 00:18:56,154 Speaker 4: were in a natural groove. I feel like Sam is 477 00:18:56,234 --> 00:18:58,474 Speaker 4: really great. Like I think I just like Sam. 478 00:18:58,794 --> 00:19:00,954 Speaker 3: You just want to marry Sam, to marry Sam. But 479 00:19:00,994 --> 00:19:02,874 Speaker 3: he's a very good looking man. They both are. 480 00:19:02,994 --> 00:19:04,034 Speaker 1: It's just not for me though. 481 00:19:05,074 --> 00:19:07,273 Speaker 2: But the thing is, I think why we attached so 482 00:19:07,354 --> 00:19:09,033 Speaker 2: much hope to them as that obviously they came in 483 00:19:09,074 --> 00:19:11,954 Speaker 2: as intruders, and we'd be burnt with so many terrible 484 00:19:12,034 --> 00:19:15,354 Speaker 2: men and terrible couples, and we'd seen so many people 485 00:19:15,634 --> 00:19:19,114 Speaker 2: get humiliated, like at their actual wedding ceremony and at 486 00:19:19,114 --> 00:19:21,514 Speaker 2: the reception and afterwards, and it was just like this 487 00:19:21,914 --> 00:19:24,434 Speaker 2: lesson and like punishment and humiliation over and over and 488 00:19:24,514 --> 00:19:26,714 Speaker 2: over again. And then Chris and Sam came in and 489 00:19:26,714 --> 00:19:29,354 Speaker 2: they seemed to have quite a very fun, lovely wedding day, 490 00:19:29,434 --> 00:19:30,914 Speaker 2: and they seemed to have such a good vibe on 491 00:19:30,954 --> 00:19:34,194 Speaker 2: their honeymoon. And then They had a huge obstacle right 492 00:19:34,234 --> 00:19:36,594 Speaker 2: at the gate, which is the fact that Chris then 493 00:19:36,634 --> 00:19:38,313 Speaker 2: had to sort of let him know that he was 494 00:19:38,714 --> 00:19:41,154 Speaker 2: expecting children. He had this whole other life sort of 495 00:19:41,194 --> 00:19:43,354 Speaker 2: going on, and Sam took it really well. 496 00:19:43,234 --> 00:19:45,874 Speaker 1: So well, was so nice, really mature. 497 00:19:46,514 --> 00:19:48,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were just like, okay, So these guys 498 00:19:48,154 --> 00:19:50,674 Speaker 2: already had their big what the producers would have built 499 00:19:50,754 --> 00:19:52,154 Speaker 2: up as their big kind of like this will be 500 00:19:52,194 --> 00:19:54,874 Speaker 2: their drama. They got through it, and then they seem 501 00:19:54,914 --> 00:19:57,074 Speaker 2: to have some cute moments, so we were rooting for them, 502 00:19:57,154 --> 00:19:57,754 Speaker 2: and now. 503 00:19:58,034 --> 00:19:59,394 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is really interesting. 504 00:19:59,474 --> 00:20:02,354 Speaker 4: So obviously at the commitment ceremony they were asked, you know, 505 00:20:02,434 --> 00:20:05,194 Speaker 4: what's next for you guys, and Chris kind of took. 506 00:20:05,034 --> 00:20:08,034 Speaker 1: The reins and you know, laid up this plan for them. 507 00:20:07,994 --> 00:20:11,154 Speaker 4: They obviously hadn't discussed before. I think the plan itself 508 00:20:11,714 --> 00:20:14,354 Speaker 4: actually probably isn't too far from if they had had 509 00:20:14,394 --> 00:20:15,714 Speaker 4: a discussion before, where they. 510 00:20:15,594 --> 00:20:16,234 Speaker 1: Would have landed. 511 00:20:16,314 --> 00:20:18,674 Speaker 4: You know, he wants to stay on his farm, he's 512 00:20:18,714 --> 00:20:21,474 Speaker 4: happy to be a farm boy, and obviously Sam is 513 00:20:21,514 --> 00:20:23,273 Speaker 4: in the city, and they would kind of go between 514 00:20:23,274 --> 00:20:26,954 Speaker 4: both places, which honestly, I wouldn't have thought twice if 515 00:20:26,954 --> 00:20:28,674 Speaker 4: we hadn't seen Sam react in that way. 516 00:20:28,754 --> 00:20:30,194 Speaker 3: It sounded like what the plan would be. 517 00:20:30,354 --> 00:20:32,714 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but I guess it should be a really 518 00:20:32,754 --> 00:20:35,833 Speaker 4: exciting part of your relationship to plan the next chapter. 519 00:20:36,354 --> 00:20:38,834 Speaker 4: So feeling left behind like you didn't have a say 520 00:20:38,874 --> 00:20:41,354 Speaker 4: on it. I can understand why you would be upset 521 00:20:41,394 --> 00:20:45,553 Speaker 4: to have someone speak on your behalf, But initially I 522 00:20:45,594 --> 00:20:48,914 Speaker 4: thought the reaction was maybe like disproportionate. 523 00:20:49,834 --> 00:20:52,034 Speaker 2: Yes, well I thought that too, So it did feel 524 00:20:52,074 --> 00:20:55,273 Speaker 2: like too much of an intense feedback session from Sam. 525 00:20:55,514 --> 00:20:57,914 Speaker 2: But I think some of that must come from because 526 00:20:58,234 --> 00:21:00,474 Speaker 2: the way he kept saying, and you're almost on Christ's side, 527 00:21:00,474 --> 00:21:02,674 Speaker 2: because Chris is like, Okay, I didn't mean it, and 528 00:21:02,674 --> 00:21:04,794 Speaker 2: I've said I'm sorry. Straight afterwards I said I'm sorry again. 529 00:21:04,834 --> 00:21:06,634 Speaker 2: I said I'm sorry this morning, Like how many times 530 00:21:07,194 --> 00:21:09,074 Speaker 2: are we going to have this conversation? And I thought 531 00:21:09,074 --> 00:21:10,954 Speaker 2: we were okay, And now you're telling me on the 532 00:21:10,994 --> 00:21:12,674 Speaker 2: way to the dinner party, which we know will be 533 00:21:12,714 --> 00:21:15,234 Speaker 2: a volatile, intensive end, that you're going to bring this 534 00:21:15,314 --> 00:21:17,914 Speaker 2: up in front of everyone with the sole purpose sort 535 00:21:17,954 --> 00:21:19,994 Speaker 2: of making me a group target. And in that moment, 536 00:21:20,034 --> 00:21:22,554 Speaker 2: you're kind of on Chris's side. But I think with Sam, 537 00:21:22,594 --> 00:21:24,874 Speaker 2: It's never the thing that people say they're angry about. 538 00:21:24,954 --> 00:21:27,074 Speaker 2: It's never the thing, Yeah, the thing. It must be 539 00:21:27,154 --> 00:21:30,154 Speaker 2: something else that's been happening, or something else, something else 540 00:21:30,194 --> 00:21:31,954 Speaker 2: he's feeling that he's latched onto this. 541 00:21:32,074 --> 00:21:32,274 Speaker 1: Yeah. 542 00:21:32,274 --> 00:21:35,513 Speaker 4: I think the way the conversation was managed was super 543 00:21:35,554 --> 00:21:38,834 Speaker 4: poor because it didn't feel like Chris was really hearing 544 00:21:38,914 --> 00:21:40,634 Speaker 4: him out and he was kind of willing to die 545 00:21:40,634 --> 00:21:43,354 Speaker 4: on that hill like that. He was just being logical, 546 00:21:43,394 --> 00:21:45,874 Speaker 4: like I'm sorry, but I still think I'm right, and 547 00:21:46,154 --> 00:21:48,033 Speaker 4: he wasn't able to just hear him out like it 548 00:21:48,074 --> 00:21:50,234 Speaker 4: could have come. It could have turned into a whole 549 00:21:50,314 --> 00:21:54,354 Speaker 4: other conversation where he asks Sam, well, what do you want? 550 00:21:54,434 --> 00:21:55,793 Speaker 1: What do you see? And it could have been a 551 00:21:55,794 --> 00:21:56,714 Speaker 1: really positive thing. 552 00:21:57,234 --> 00:22:00,074 Speaker 4: But I think because he was just so hard on 553 00:22:00,074 --> 00:22:03,234 Speaker 4: where he stood and speaking quite sharply to Sam. That 554 00:22:03,274 --> 00:22:04,914 Speaker 4: was something that he pointed out, It's like no one's 555 00:22:04,914 --> 00:22:07,914 Speaker 4: spoken to me like that sharply before, or that it 556 00:22:07,954 --> 00:22:12,394 Speaker 4: may just be like communication styles and how you manage conflict, 557 00:22:12,394 --> 00:22:15,074 Speaker 4: and I think that was the actual issue. And even 558 00:22:15,074 --> 00:22:17,553 Speaker 4: when they're at the dinner party later, Sam, you know, 559 00:22:17,714 --> 00:22:21,114 Speaker 4: Chris offers an apology and says these apologize heaps of 560 00:22:21,154 --> 00:22:23,154 Speaker 4: times with Sam said, no, it's the first time you've 561 00:22:23,194 --> 00:22:27,073 Speaker 4: apologized for being defensive. So it's the defensiveness that I 562 00:22:27,074 --> 00:22:28,514 Speaker 4: think really upset him. 563 00:22:29,034 --> 00:22:30,874 Speaker 3: These people need to sit with not those so called 564 00:22:30,874 --> 00:22:33,914 Speaker 3: TV experts, in some real experts and like get. 565 00:22:33,834 --> 00:22:37,593 Speaker 4: Some happens in arguments when your a relationship, though, like 566 00:22:37,634 --> 00:22:40,154 Speaker 4: you repeat it back out loud and you're like, what. 567 00:22:39,794 --> 00:22:41,034 Speaker 3: Was I know that thing? 568 00:22:41,034 --> 00:22:43,034 Speaker 2: It's never about what the argument is. It's always some 569 00:22:43,074 --> 00:22:46,074 Speaker 2: sort of thing that you are bubbling underneath. So then 570 00:22:46,114 --> 00:22:49,514 Speaker 2: we get to our dinner party, which I don't understand 571 00:22:49,514 --> 00:22:51,354 Speaker 2: how those people sit down and eat a full dinner. 572 00:22:51,554 --> 00:22:52,434 Speaker 1: Do you reckon they eating? 573 00:22:52,554 --> 00:22:54,714 Speaker 3: No, they're eating, especially in this one, I was noticing it. 574 00:22:54,754 --> 00:22:57,074 Speaker 2: They are eating so much, which any other time I'd 575 00:22:57,074 --> 00:22:59,154 Speaker 2: be like, absolutely, eat is much food, and that food 576 00:22:59,314 --> 00:23:02,834 Speaker 2: is delicious. I would just be so tense and upset 577 00:23:03,354 --> 00:23:05,634 Speaker 2: unless I'm like Stella and Philip and like, no one's 578 00:23:05,674 --> 00:23:07,114 Speaker 2: talking to me, no one knows my name, no one's 579 00:23:07,194 --> 00:23:08,874 Speaker 2: looked at me, and I can sit in the corner 580 00:23:08,874 --> 00:23:11,314 Speaker 2: and eat my beef with raspberry jewel whatever they were eating. 581 00:23:11,394 --> 00:23:13,514 Speaker 1: The happier you are, the more you get to eat. 582 00:23:13,794 --> 00:23:16,154 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the less screen time you get, the better 583 00:23:16,354 --> 00:23:18,674 Speaker 2: your appetite is. No, I just't understand how they're going 584 00:23:18,674 --> 00:23:20,394 Speaker 2: and have a full dinner, knowing that they're all about 585 00:23:20,434 --> 00:23:22,994 Speaker 2: to scream at each other, they're about to cry, they're 586 00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:24,994 Speaker 2: about to be called out for things, all in the 587 00:23:25,074 --> 00:23:27,474 Speaker 2: name of television, and we only see a tiny moment 588 00:23:27,514 --> 00:23:27,714 Speaker 2: of it. 589 00:23:27,754 --> 00:23:29,714 Speaker 3: But it's filmed for hours and hours now as hours. 590 00:23:29,674 --> 00:23:30,514 Speaker 1: The middle of the night. 591 00:23:30,514 --> 00:23:32,194 Speaker 2: I would be sitting there with just like one glass 592 00:23:32,234 --> 00:23:34,114 Speaker 2: of water in my hands, shaking and be like, Okay, 593 00:23:34,154 --> 00:23:34,714 Speaker 2: let's do this. 594 00:23:35,034 --> 00:23:37,074 Speaker 1: No, you'd be on the lines for sure. 595 00:23:37,834 --> 00:23:38,034 Speaker 4: Yeah. 596 00:23:38,714 --> 00:23:40,474 Speaker 3: No, after my first inner party, they'd be like, let's 597 00:23:40,474 --> 00:23:41,194 Speaker 3: get that winde off her. 598 00:23:41,274 --> 00:23:44,634 Speaker 1: Yeah, take that off. I don't think they would know exactly. 599 00:23:44,754 --> 00:23:46,754 Speaker 2: Don't put me on married at first sight. I'd be 600 00:23:46,834 --> 00:23:49,954 Speaker 2: canceled so quickly. So they're all sitting there chatting away. 601 00:23:50,114 --> 00:23:52,634 Speaker 2: We have a really I don't know. I can't find 602 00:23:52,634 --> 00:23:55,553 Speaker 2: this couple sweet. Everyone finds them sweet. I'm so worried 603 00:23:55,554 --> 00:23:56,754 Speaker 2: for them, Rachel and Stephen. 604 00:23:57,594 --> 00:24:00,514 Speaker 1: I don't find them. Sorry, you find them sweet? He literally, 605 00:24:00,674 --> 00:24:01,313 Speaker 1: I don't find them. 606 00:24:01,514 --> 00:24:02,994 Speaker 3: Well, no, I know it makes the wrong word. 607 00:24:03,074 --> 00:24:05,594 Speaker 1: He went to treat her this week he's taking a 608 00:24:05,594 --> 00:24:08,394 Speaker 1: little lead. It's going to treat his woman. He brings 609 00:24:08,394 --> 00:24:08,834 Speaker 1: out a. 610 00:24:08,754 --> 00:24:12,154 Speaker 4: Plate of plain corn chips ha ha yeah, with a 611 00:24:12,274 --> 00:24:15,033 Speaker 4: block of tasty cheese melted on top, and he's like, 612 00:24:15,074 --> 00:24:15,434 Speaker 4: for you. 613 00:24:15,354 --> 00:24:15,834 Speaker 1: My lady. 614 00:24:15,954 --> 00:24:18,074 Speaker 2: That was Yeah, that was the best moment. I love 615 00:24:18,154 --> 00:24:20,114 Speaker 2: Rachel's you know, I like I like her. I think 616 00:24:20,114 --> 00:24:20,674 Speaker 2: that's what it is. 617 00:24:20,714 --> 00:24:23,834 Speaker 3: I like her. Can I feel bad for him? She's 618 00:24:23,914 --> 00:24:27,194 Speaker 3: carrying that. She's so sweet, But it could go either way. 619 00:24:27,354 --> 00:24:30,434 Speaker 1: I am doing bunny quotes. 620 00:24:30,634 --> 00:24:30,954 Speaker 4: Happened? 621 00:24:31,114 --> 00:24:34,474 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's sweet with a promac layer around him 622 00:24:34,514 --> 00:24:36,594 Speaker 2: of like, this could go very bad because obviously he 623 00:24:36,634 --> 00:24:38,914 Speaker 2: shouldn't be on this show, is what I think. He's 624 00:24:39,034 --> 00:24:40,794 Speaker 2: so out of his comfort zone. I feel like he 625 00:24:40,834 --> 00:24:42,674 Speaker 2: doesn't want to be there. He's there because everyone in 626 00:24:42,714 --> 00:24:44,634 Speaker 2: his life has told him he needs to have a girlfriend, 627 00:24:44,674 --> 00:24:47,194 Speaker 2: he needs to date, and he has felt that so intensely. 628 00:24:47,234 --> 00:24:48,353 Speaker 3: And also maybe he does want to date. 629 00:24:48,354 --> 00:24:50,474 Speaker 2: He doesn't know how to do it, but at the 630 00:24:50,554 --> 00:24:53,074 Speaker 2: first sight wasn't the time to do it. And now 631 00:24:53,114 --> 00:24:55,194 Speaker 2: he's so in his head and so stressed out, and 632 00:24:55,234 --> 00:24:58,074 Speaker 2: so it could just kind of erupt in a bad way. 633 00:24:58,474 --> 00:24:58,674 Speaker 5: Yeah. 634 00:24:58,714 --> 00:25:00,634 Speaker 2: The funniest one of that whole nachos thing. He's like 635 00:25:00,674 --> 00:25:01,994 Speaker 2: he was so proud of himself. 636 00:25:01,754 --> 00:25:04,234 Speaker 3: Which is kind of cute. And he was like to Rachel, see, 637 00:25:04,434 --> 00:25:06,674 Speaker 3: no one makes nanchos like me. No one disliked me. 638 00:25:06,714 --> 00:25:09,273 Speaker 2: And she's like that's probably a good thing because and 639 00:25:09,314 --> 00:25:10,754 Speaker 2: then the camera plans to the play. 640 00:25:10,794 --> 00:25:12,234 Speaker 3: You're like, no one can eat that. You know what? 641 00:25:12,274 --> 00:25:14,194 Speaker 1: I think Margot Robbie makes not just like that. 642 00:25:14,354 --> 00:25:16,434 Speaker 3: Oh really, have you seen Margot Robbie's nose. 643 00:25:16,594 --> 00:25:18,874 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure she just like melts chase someone else. 644 00:25:18,754 --> 00:25:21,394 Speaker 3: On corn chips. Yeah, yeah, that doesn't sound good. 645 00:25:21,594 --> 00:25:22,674 Speaker 1: I think she can get over that. 646 00:25:22,874 --> 00:25:25,074 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love how she does. Everyone's like it's so fun, 647 00:25:25,234 --> 00:25:27,353 Speaker 2: so so chic. When he did it, you're like, well, 648 00:25:27,354 --> 00:25:28,634 Speaker 2: the thing is he did on a date. 649 00:25:28,954 --> 00:25:31,354 Speaker 4: He also thought a mac lipstick was a vibrator, so 650 00:25:31,354 --> 00:25:32,474 Speaker 4: I'm just very concerned. 651 00:25:32,554 --> 00:25:33,514 Speaker 3: Oh that bit. 652 00:25:33,754 --> 00:25:34,754 Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god. 653 00:25:34,794 --> 00:25:37,874 Speaker 3: I guess our libraries are tiny, right, I don't know 654 00:25:38,274 --> 00:25:38,834 Speaker 3: there would be. 655 00:25:38,914 --> 00:25:40,834 Speaker 1: But he just picks it up like so soon a 656 00:25:40,874 --> 00:25:43,074 Speaker 1: stud she opens it. She's like, it's a lipstock. 657 00:25:43,394 --> 00:25:45,154 Speaker 3: But also I would have been bad if it was 658 00:25:45,154 --> 00:25:45,754 Speaker 3: a vibrator. 659 00:25:46,154 --> 00:25:48,754 Speaker 4: He's like, I've never he didn't say that, but it 660 00:25:48,754 --> 00:25:50,234 Speaker 4: looks like he'd never seen one before. 661 00:25:50,394 --> 00:25:51,794 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what I mean. 662 00:25:52,154 --> 00:25:54,074 Speaker 2: He's so out of his comfort zone, which isn't a 663 00:25:54,074 --> 00:25:56,074 Speaker 2: bad thing. It's just a bad thing to put someone 664 00:25:56,114 --> 00:25:59,674 Speaker 2: like that in a TV show and then and also 665 00:25:59,674 --> 00:26:01,474 Speaker 2: to put her in the situation where she's having to 666 00:26:01,514 --> 00:26:04,353 Speaker 2: tiptoe around him. So anyway, they have their moment at 667 00:26:04,354 --> 00:26:07,434 Speaker 2: dinner party where they're constantly being asked if they have sex, 668 00:26:07,434 --> 00:26:10,594 Speaker 2: if they're going to have sex, And I so understand 669 00:26:10,794 --> 00:26:13,513 Speaker 2: his point when he's like, every time we almost go 670 00:26:13,674 --> 00:26:16,314 Speaker 2: to have sex, oh my god, we have this intense 671 00:26:16,514 --> 00:26:17,914 Speaker 2: you know how, like you just leave something too long 672 00:26:17,954 --> 00:26:20,274 Speaker 2: and then the build up is too much, whether it's 673 00:26:20,354 --> 00:26:22,554 Speaker 2: like an article you've got to write or a person 674 00:26:22,634 --> 00:26:24,234 Speaker 2: you just or your fake husband you've got to have 675 00:26:24,274 --> 00:26:24,554 Speaker 2: sex with. 676 00:26:24,994 --> 00:26:26,634 Speaker 3: Once you let it build up too much, that's it. 677 00:26:26,674 --> 00:26:28,954 Speaker 3: You can't do it. The stakes feel too high pressure. 678 00:26:29,034 --> 00:26:31,994 Speaker 2: And so I understand when he says, every time we 679 00:26:32,034 --> 00:26:33,874 Speaker 2: go to have sex, we both get in our head 680 00:26:33,874 --> 00:26:36,313 Speaker 2: because we're like, do we want to have sex or 681 00:26:36,354 --> 00:26:38,234 Speaker 2: are we just doing it because the expectation is there. 682 00:26:38,554 --> 00:26:39,474 Speaker 3: I have an answer to that. 683 00:26:39,714 --> 00:26:41,914 Speaker 2: If you're thinking that, if you're thinking that as you 684 00:26:41,994 --> 00:26:43,394 Speaker 2: might to have sex and you don't want to have sex. 685 00:26:43,474 --> 00:26:45,954 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think you're should thinking you should be 686 00:26:45,954 --> 00:26:47,194 Speaker 4: in your head that much. 687 00:26:47,194 --> 00:26:49,434 Speaker 1: And obviously there's no cameras at that point. 688 00:26:49,474 --> 00:26:52,074 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, have time where they are alone, there's so 689 00:26:52,194 --> 00:26:53,034 Speaker 4: much opportunity. 690 00:26:53,354 --> 00:26:55,833 Speaker 1: I do think he has genuine feelings. 691 00:26:55,354 --> 00:26:59,234 Speaker 4: For her, but I'm not exactly sure whether they're beyond platonic. 692 00:26:59,274 --> 00:27:00,994 Speaker 4: I think he cares about her, and I think that's 693 00:27:01,074 --> 00:27:03,274 Speaker 4: like the only reason he is still there. 694 00:27:03,714 --> 00:27:05,834 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that they get along, they feel safe 695 00:27:05,874 --> 00:27:07,994 Speaker 3: for each other. I don't think that they're in love 696 00:27:08,034 --> 00:27:09,634 Speaker 3: at all. I don't even think they have the spark 697 00:27:09,674 --> 00:27:10,354 Speaker 3: of being in love. 698 00:27:10,434 --> 00:27:12,074 Speaker 1: Do you think she cares at this point or she 699 00:27:12,194 --> 00:27:13,154 Speaker 1: is just going through the motion. 700 00:27:13,514 --> 00:27:16,274 Speaker 2: Maybe she's going through the motions to get I mean, look, 701 00:27:16,314 --> 00:27:18,914 Speaker 2: I hopefully look. If I'm wrong, please do invite me 702 00:27:18,954 --> 00:27:20,553 Speaker 2: to the wedding. I'd be so happy to come and 703 00:27:20,594 --> 00:27:22,994 Speaker 2: celebrate your I would love to be wrong about this. 704 00:27:23,194 --> 00:27:28,114 Speaker 1: They're serving yeah, so good at the wedding. Well at theTimes, 705 00:27:28,114 --> 00:27:29,874 Speaker 1: it's a huge table. 706 00:27:29,594 --> 00:27:31,234 Speaker 3: That would be that would be very shak of them 707 00:27:31,274 --> 00:27:31,594 Speaker 3: to do that. 708 00:27:31,914 --> 00:27:34,034 Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong, but I just feel like, at 709 00:27:34,034 --> 00:27:36,274 Speaker 2: this point, if you're still having to talk yourselves into 710 00:27:36,314 --> 00:27:39,354 Speaker 2: having sex, and I understand the implications of like everyone 711 00:27:39,394 --> 00:27:39,754 Speaker 2: being like. 712 00:27:39,754 --> 00:27:40,994 Speaker 3: Tell us, tell us, tell us. 713 00:27:41,194 --> 00:27:43,434 Speaker 2: When they said will, they're like at the dinner party 714 00:27:43,434 --> 00:27:45,154 Speaker 2: to all those crazy people, like you'll be the first 715 00:27:45,194 --> 00:27:47,914 Speaker 2: to know. I was like, don't tell them, just have 716 00:27:48,074 --> 00:27:49,794 Speaker 2: sex and don't tell anyone about it. 717 00:27:50,074 --> 00:27:51,794 Speaker 4: I thought the whole speech was like, we want to 718 00:27:51,994 --> 00:27:53,714 Speaker 4: frive ae, leave us alone. 719 00:27:53,754 --> 00:27:55,154 Speaker 1: And then he's like, but we'll tell you. 720 00:27:55,074 --> 00:27:57,234 Speaker 3: Guys, we'll set the fireworks from the balcony. 721 00:27:57,354 --> 00:28:00,074 Speaker 1: So might not really well last week? Yeah, I told 722 00:28:00,114 --> 00:28:01,994 Speaker 1: you guys, so let's do it again. 723 00:28:03,514 --> 00:28:05,834 Speaker 2: So I worry for those poor sweet children, like I 724 00:28:05,874 --> 00:28:08,194 Speaker 2: worry for everyone else. So that part, you can see, 725 00:28:08,274 --> 00:28:11,553 Speaker 2: everyone was just waiting for the main event, which was 726 00:28:11,674 --> 00:28:14,194 Speaker 2: going to be between Alissa and Beck. 727 00:28:14,754 --> 00:28:15,754 Speaker 1: Yes, it was interesting. 728 00:28:15,754 --> 00:28:18,714 Speaker 4: When Melissa and David arrived at the dinner party, it 729 00:28:18,834 --> 00:28:21,194 Speaker 4: looked super tense. I was like, surely they're not going 730 00:28:21,234 --> 00:28:22,634 Speaker 4: to hug it out, Like, surely they're not going to 731 00:28:22,674 --> 00:28:25,434 Speaker 4: have this friendly interaction. But Beck and Alyssa have this 732 00:28:25,514 --> 00:28:27,954 Speaker 4: hug at first, and then I don't get straight into it. 733 00:28:27,954 --> 00:28:31,354 Speaker 2: And sometimes for because when they first starts, I think 734 00:28:31,354 --> 00:28:33,234 Speaker 2: it feels like a formal event. It's such a big thing. 735 00:28:33,634 --> 00:28:35,434 Speaker 2: They've all dressed up. Do you think I have to 736 00:28:35,434 --> 00:28:36,474 Speaker 2: bring their own clothes that married? 737 00:28:36,474 --> 00:28:36,954 Speaker 3: At first? 738 00:28:36,994 --> 00:28:37,234 Speaker 1: I do? 739 00:28:37,394 --> 00:28:38,314 Speaker 3: They do? Okay, they do. 740 00:28:38,554 --> 00:28:40,274 Speaker 2: And my only person we've thought about that as I've 741 00:28:40,274 --> 00:28:42,154 Speaker 2: watched them, always like, do you bring your own clothes? 742 00:28:42,154 --> 00:28:43,634 Speaker 3: They get the clothes. 743 00:28:43,834 --> 00:28:46,474 Speaker 4: No, so they they buy their own clothes or they 744 00:28:46,834 --> 00:28:50,234 Speaker 4: work with like somewhere to hire, but they bring all 745 00:28:50,274 --> 00:28:51,674 Speaker 4: of their outfits, which is a lot. 746 00:28:52,074 --> 00:28:55,354 Speaker 2: Well, I just thought watching this event, especially all of 747 00:28:55,354 --> 00:28:56,834 Speaker 2: the girls who came in like ten out of ten 748 00:28:56,874 --> 00:28:59,154 Speaker 2: in all their dresses, Rachel and the green, and beck 749 00:28:59,154 --> 00:29:01,194 Speaker 2: in the red, and then Alissa had that floral outfit on. 750 00:29:01,434 --> 00:29:02,314 Speaker 3: This is where I'm at now. 751 00:29:02,354 --> 00:29:04,434 Speaker 2: I'm just like wanting to turn the sound off and 752 00:29:04,514 --> 00:29:06,234 Speaker 2: just look at all the pretty dresses and makeup and 753 00:29:06,274 --> 00:29:08,754 Speaker 2: just feel like it is like a red carpet. And 754 00:29:08,794 --> 00:29:10,994 Speaker 2: that is actually to bring my point full circle, that 755 00:29:11,114 --> 00:29:13,114 Speaker 2: is actually why I think they act so formal when 756 00:29:13,154 --> 00:29:15,754 Speaker 2: they first see each other, is that they're on a set. 757 00:29:16,194 --> 00:29:18,434 Speaker 2: They are all dressed up like crazy in a way 758 00:29:18,434 --> 00:29:20,394 Speaker 2: they aren't during the week they've been held in all 759 00:29:20,434 --> 00:29:22,234 Speaker 2: their cars outside for production to. 760 00:29:22,234 --> 00:29:22,754 Speaker 3: Bring them in. 761 00:29:22,834 --> 00:29:25,154 Speaker 2: It is like filming a big thing. So I think 762 00:29:25,194 --> 00:29:27,434 Speaker 2: when they come in, and also, haven't you haven't you 763 00:29:27,474 --> 00:29:28,274 Speaker 2: ever hugged. 764 00:29:27,994 --> 00:29:29,154 Speaker 3: An enemy at a formal event? 765 00:29:29,194 --> 00:29:31,154 Speaker 1: And I hate doing that me too, because I'm like, 766 00:29:31,194 --> 00:29:31,674 Speaker 1: I'm fak. 767 00:29:31,954 --> 00:29:39,754 Speaker 2: I actually, oh Sydney Media, well, mate, sometimes like but 768 00:29:39,834 --> 00:29:41,914 Speaker 2: you just don't make sure let your cheek touch their 769 00:29:41,954 --> 00:29:44,194 Speaker 2: cheek and then you're like and then you're going to 770 00:29:44,274 --> 00:29:46,074 Speaker 2: go off for me, it's time we've all been there 771 00:29:46,394 --> 00:29:50,074 Speaker 2: at any industry area. So I understand that's why they hugged. 772 00:29:50,114 --> 00:29:51,754 Speaker 2: But it was the most tense hug ever, and I 773 00:29:51,754 --> 00:29:53,674 Speaker 2: think it really set the scene for what was to come. 774 00:29:53,994 --> 00:29:57,034 Speaker 4: So when the experts are observing Alissa's entrance and when 775 00:29:57,074 --> 00:29:59,194 Speaker 4: she said it a dinner table, John is like, she's 776 00:29:59,234 --> 00:30:02,674 Speaker 4: got a different vibe tonight. Do you think maybe she's 777 00:30:02,834 --> 00:30:05,634 Speaker 4: mad at Beck? Because of the text. I'm like, obviously, 778 00:30:06,474 --> 00:30:06,754 Speaker 4: are you. 779 00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:07,914 Speaker 1: Talking ab for the whole week? 780 00:30:08,354 --> 00:30:10,354 Speaker 3: The job, sir, you have one job. How are you 781 00:30:10,474 --> 00:30:11,354 Speaker 3: across what's happening? 782 00:30:12,354 --> 00:30:12,914 Speaker 1: Literally? 783 00:30:13,274 --> 00:30:15,994 Speaker 4: But I think it was really nice to see Alissa 784 00:30:16,394 --> 00:30:19,074 Speaker 4: confront Beck, and I think she was really firm. 785 00:30:19,154 --> 00:30:20,954 Speaker 1: I would just cry. I think if I was. 786 00:30:20,954 --> 00:30:22,874 Speaker 2: In a position this is the other reason I can't 787 00:30:22,874 --> 00:30:24,394 Speaker 2: go on this show, is like I cry at the 788 00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:24,994 Speaker 2: drop of her hat. 789 00:30:25,154 --> 00:30:28,234 Speaker 3: I'm angry. I will just cry the entire time, and 790 00:30:28,274 --> 00:30:29,434 Speaker 3: I'm like frustrated. 791 00:30:29,714 --> 00:30:32,154 Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's really hard to get a good 792 00:30:32,234 --> 00:30:32,834 Speaker 1: pond across. 793 00:30:32,874 --> 00:30:35,914 Speaker 4: But yeah, I'd be really angry, but not firm exactly. 794 00:30:36,434 --> 00:30:39,314 Speaker 2: I actually thought Alyssa, if it was anyone else, it 795 00:30:39,354 --> 00:30:41,554 Speaker 2: would have been a much more intense fight. But I 796 00:30:41,554 --> 00:30:43,514 Speaker 2: think when she says like I'm more of a kind 797 00:30:43,674 --> 00:30:44,874 Speaker 2: calmer person. 798 00:30:44,834 --> 00:30:46,194 Speaker 3: I actually kind of do believe that. 799 00:30:46,314 --> 00:30:50,194 Speaker 2: Yeah, because she was obviously, producers and other people in 800 00:30:50,194 --> 00:30:52,354 Speaker 2: the show had set her up to be like this 801 00:30:52,434 --> 00:30:55,114 Speaker 2: big catalyst of like I'm going to throw down, I'm 802 00:30:55,114 --> 00:30:57,714 Speaker 2: going to confront her, and she tried. God bless her heart, 803 00:30:57,914 --> 00:31:00,594 Speaker 2: she tried, and I also think she was genuinely hurt, 804 00:31:00,634 --> 00:31:03,354 Speaker 2: but because she couldn't sort of articulate, and beck is 805 00:31:03,394 --> 00:31:07,314 Speaker 2: so much better of a public fighter, kept like looking 806 00:31:07,354 --> 00:31:10,114 Speaker 2: over her, turning the conversation around, and you could see 807 00:31:10,154 --> 00:31:12,874 Speaker 2: like Alissa wanted to confront her and she's upset, but 808 00:31:12,914 --> 00:31:15,274 Speaker 2: her heart I think just wasn't inputting on a performance 809 00:31:15,274 --> 00:31:17,554 Speaker 2: of a fight. She just sort of wanted to put 810 00:31:17,554 --> 00:31:20,074 Speaker 2: her point out there, and then Beck kept deflecting. And 811 00:31:20,114 --> 00:31:21,914 Speaker 2: what I thought was the kind of more interesting thing 812 00:31:22,034 --> 00:31:23,474 Speaker 2: is like watching it, I was like, we're never getting 813 00:31:23,514 --> 00:31:25,794 Speaker 2: a resolution between these two women because Alyssa's never going 814 00:31:25,834 --> 00:31:28,474 Speaker 2: to go past saying I'm hurt and I'm upset and 815 00:31:28,514 --> 00:31:30,914 Speaker 2: don't use me for your fight to other people, and 816 00:31:30,954 --> 00:31:33,874 Speaker 2: Beck is never going to go past Well, it's Gea's faults, 817 00:31:33,954 --> 00:31:36,994 Speaker 2: this person's fault. I said it months ago. I actually 818 00:31:36,994 --> 00:31:39,994 Speaker 2: thought them kind of more interesting thing was the reaction 819 00:31:40,114 --> 00:31:41,394 Speaker 2: between Beck and Danny. 820 00:31:41,634 --> 00:31:44,674 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I think this is like is this the 821 00:31:44,674 --> 00:31:47,154 Speaker 4: straw that breaks the camel's back, because I've been waiting 822 00:31:47,154 --> 00:31:49,474 Speaker 4: for Danny to kind of put his foot down, because 823 00:31:49,474 --> 00:31:52,354 Speaker 4: he has been standing by with her. 824 00:31:52,274 --> 00:31:54,194 Speaker 1: While he woun't necessarily defend her. 825 00:31:54,674 --> 00:31:56,674 Speaker 4: I think in the past couple of weeks he has 826 00:31:57,074 --> 00:32:00,434 Speaker 4: definitely been a support for her, but he does now 827 00:32:00,754 --> 00:32:03,914 Speaker 4: finally kind of call her out on her behavior. Yeah, 828 00:32:04,034 --> 00:32:05,954 Speaker 4: I just don't know how he's standing by it. 829 00:32:05,954 --> 00:32:08,194 Speaker 3: Still welling he supports her like. 830 00:32:08,154 --> 00:32:11,914 Speaker 2: A colleague, not a not a fiance slash wife slush girlfriend. 831 00:32:12,634 --> 00:32:13,954 Speaker 3: He doesn't want to like a girlfriend. 832 00:32:13,954 --> 00:32:16,114 Speaker 2: He supports her like a colleague of being like, oh, 833 00:32:16,154 --> 00:32:17,514 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I've got your like someone on your 834 00:32:17,514 --> 00:32:19,434 Speaker 2: team does something stupid, be like oh, we work together, 835 00:32:19,554 --> 00:32:19,914 Speaker 2: so we have. 836 00:32:19,874 --> 00:32:22,474 Speaker 3: To be like yeah or yeah or a team sport. 837 00:32:22,714 --> 00:32:24,874 Speaker 2: I can't relate to that, but you know, being like, oh, 838 00:32:24,954 --> 00:32:26,954 Speaker 2: like frustrating, but like I've got your back and I'm 839 00:32:26,994 --> 00:32:28,594 Speaker 2: going to talk. The way he talks her through it 840 00:32:28,634 --> 00:32:31,314 Speaker 2: is nice, but he's always very removed. It's not the 841 00:32:31,314 --> 00:32:33,914 Speaker 2: way a partner talks to another partner. And I also 842 00:32:33,954 --> 00:32:36,194 Speaker 2: think the worst thing that a partner can say that 843 00:32:36,514 --> 00:32:39,754 Speaker 2: you when you're having a disagreement is something that he 844 00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:41,514 Speaker 2: said in this moment. I don't know how you come 845 00:32:41,554 --> 00:32:43,714 Speaker 2: back from it. When Danny said of Beck, I'm so 846 00:32:43,794 --> 00:32:44,634 Speaker 2: ashamed of you. 847 00:32:44,874 --> 00:32:45,434 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 848 00:32:45,514 --> 00:32:48,034 Speaker 2: Ashamed, I feel like is something that's very hard to 849 00:32:48,034 --> 00:32:51,354 Speaker 2: come back from from both people, because angry is another 850 00:32:51,434 --> 00:32:53,794 Speaker 2: human emotion, and anger is linked to passion, which is 851 00:32:53,834 --> 00:32:57,474 Speaker 2: linked to love, disappointment. I think you can overcome all 852 00:32:57,514 --> 00:33:01,434 Speaker 2: these things, but shame is a pretty bad one. Yeah, 853 00:33:01,674 --> 00:33:03,594 Speaker 2: to be ashamed of someone's behavior, and. 854 00:33:03,594 --> 00:33:06,114 Speaker 4: I think it's something she is already concerned about in 855 00:33:06,154 --> 00:33:11,354 Speaker 4: their relationship. The whole way through, like from the very start. So, yeah, 856 00:33:11,354 --> 00:33:12,154 Speaker 4: I don't know what to say. 857 00:33:12,194 --> 00:33:14,474 Speaker 2: It's weird because the dynamic between Danny and Beck has 858 00:33:14,474 --> 00:33:17,914 Speaker 2: always been very imbalanced, where it's almost like he sets 859 00:33:17,954 --> 00:33:20,394 Speaker 2: her these like tasks of like I'm looking for you 860 00:33:20,434 --> 00:33:22,474 Speaker 2: to be like this, to act like this, to win 861 00:33:22,594 --> 00:33:24,594 Speaker 2: me over, and every week she's trying to do all 862 00:33:24,634 --> 00:33:27,034 Speaker 2: these things, and then her temper and anger gets the 863 00:33:27,074 --> 00:33:29,234 Speaker 2: better of her and she blows up and then they 864 00:33:29,234 --> 00:33:32,314 Speaker 2: have to start again, and it's just it just looks exhausting. 865 00:33:32,394 --> 00:33:35,194 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's definitely messy, and I feel like she's 866 00:33:35,354 --> 00:33:37,354 Speaker 4: this a goalpost she's never going to reach because they're 867 00:33:37,394 --> 00:33:38,514 Speaker 4: not a match because. 868 00:33:38,274 --> 00:33:39,794 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to be in a relationship with her 869 00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:41,914 Speaker 2: and so but he's going through the motions. 870 00:33:42,114 --> 00:33:45,674 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really didn't like that he accepted being like 871 00:33:45,754 --> 00:33:46,634 Speaker 4: girlfriend boyfriend. 872 00:33:46,674 --> 00:33:48,354 Speaker 1: I feel like that's kind of cruel. 873 00:33:48,354 --> 00:33:50,114 Speaker 3: When he obviously doesn't feel that no. 874 00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:51,834 Speaker 4: And you're just going to take it away like you're 875 00:33:51,874 --> 00:33:54,514 Speaker 4: not really acting like a partner, And honestly, she shouldn't 876 00:33:54,514 --> 00:33:57,314 Speaker 4: have said yes or even accepted that, because you're not 877 00:33:57,354 --> 00:33:58,074 Speaker 4: even there yet. 878 00:33:58,234 --> 00:34:00,554 Speaker 3: No, and then she stormed out, and I was like 879 00:34:00,594 --> 00:34:01,554 Speaker 3: almost like Jesus Christ. 880 00:34:01,594 --> 00:34:03,794 Speaker 2: Fair enough, I'd leave too. If it was happening, I 881 00:34:03,794 --> 00:34:06,834 Speaker 2: would have run Marzo. So that's where we left. As 882 00:34:06,874 --> 00:34:10,314 Speaker 2: we move into another volatile week of married at first Sight, 883 00:34:10,393 --> 00:34:12,314 Speaker 2: we're getting to the pointy end of it now, so things. 884 00:34:12,194 --> 00:34:13,354 Speaker 3: Are only going to get in. 885 00:34:14,754 --> 00:34:16,754 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening to the Spill today. 886 00:34:16,834 --> 00:34:19,154 Speaker 4: If you enjoyed this episode, the best way you can 887 00:34:19,194 --> 00:34:22,434 Speaker 4: support us is give a five star rating wherever you listen. 888 00:34:22,674 --> 00:34:24,794 Speaker 4: It goes a long way in helping us continue giving 889 00:34:24,834 --> 00:34:27,554 Speaker 4: you guys the best content. 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