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Speaker 1: So you're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and waters

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Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on.

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Speaker 1: Makeup is My Therapy. I'm in love, I'm obsessed, and

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Speaker 1: I don't even feel.

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Speaker 3: Jailty of body.

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Your Beauty, the podcast for Your Face.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lee Campbell, I'm Kelly McCarran. First, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: tell you something I just learned. I love facts.

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Speaker 2: On average, women take two point five years of their

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Speaker 2: entire life getting ready.

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Speaker 4: Oh hell, I'd spend a lot longer than that me too,

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Speaker 4: So I love it.

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Speaker 3: It's part of my Like I love getting ready.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's literally our jobs, but it's also for me.

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Speaker 4: It's like it makes me happy, it's me time.

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Speaker 2: I think that we're meant to be outraged, like the patriarchy,

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Speaker 2: and men don't have to do that.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're just.

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Speaker 3: Too busy spending an hour on the toilet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but also we host this show, so that's what

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Speaker 2: we do. But I also, like you said in defensive,

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Speaker 2: people that really enjoy it. If you feel like that

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Speaker 2: kind of fact is vilifying your hobby, I approve.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, sometimes I think with these facts, it's like that, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they put them out to outrageous. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: they go, if you bother your coffee every day, you're

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Speaker 4: spending three thousand dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it makes me happy that moment.

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Speaker 4: I would spend more because that moment every day makes

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Speaker 4: me so happy.

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Speaker 1: And I want to try my scar. And I don't

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Speaker 1: care how many years it takes exactly.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Q and A. So the ubi's ask us questions.

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Speaker 2: Kelly is having a makeup. I just I really overlined accidentally.

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Speaker 2: And you look good, Just don't look too okay. Zoom in, guys,

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Speaker 2: zoom in. And when I say zoom in, obviously you

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Speaker 2: can watch us on YouTube. Now we're video first, so

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Speaker 2: listening and curious, head over to YouTube watch us there

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Speaker 2: on Mondays we answer question So you can email us.

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Speaker 2: You be yet Mama mea dot com dot are you?

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Speaker 2: You can even send a voice note to the email.

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Speaker 2: and I and we pass it on.

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Speaker 3: I couldn't help, but wonder ask me anything.

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Speaker 2: You ask many questions.

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Speaker 1: Two wonderful questions today what are we starting with.

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Speaker 4: So later on the episode, we've got a conundrum that

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Speaker 4: I feel like so many people have had.

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Speaker 4: I sure have, because when I was a teenager, my

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Speaker 4: mum always was like, when you're grown up, you won't

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Speaker 1: Lies.

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Speaker 3: Why the lies?

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Speaker 1: Anyway?

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Speaker 3: So that's later in the episode.

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Speaker 4: But first a Ubie who's thinking about making a huge

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Speaker 1: Huge.

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Speaker 3: I'm being sarcastic.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna read it. Jesse sent us a DM.

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Speaker 2: She says, Hyley and Kelly. I'm thirty five and have

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Speaker 2: been using black muscara my whole life, but I keep

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Speaker 2: And if so, what's the best way to transition without

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Speaker 1: I've never heard.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that she's gonna who would look washed out?

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Speaker 4: Maybe someone with really dark features, well would look Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I've got many things to say about this. Okay,

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Speaker 2: look it's not you say, how do I transition?

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Speaker 1: It's not not hard. It's not that big of a difference.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just don't like don't overthink it. It's just mascara.

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Speaker 4: Because a lot of people are making the life changing transition.

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Speaker 2: So I've got some recommendations as to you, and I

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Speaker 2: I love the Rim All RIM's got like a brown

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Speaker 2: Tubing muscaa in brown full price. It's twenty five ninety

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Speaker 2: it's just called chocolate. Fifty one dollars though, that's at Mecca.

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Speaker 3: How you feel about the color before you commit.

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Speaker 3: Where did you flutter off to?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to come back? I bought these on Amazon.

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Speaker 2: They're brown lush clusters. The brand is TNVF okay, I

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Speaker 2: They're very easy to put on eighteen ninety nine and

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Speaker 4: for people. So my hacks are exactly like, use a

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Speaker 3: Curl your lashes to open the mark always.

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Speaker 4: And then the three that I selected are Mecha Max

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Speaker 4: Whiplash Tubing mascara twenty six dollars.

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Speaker 1: I forgot about that one.

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Speaker 3: I don't it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: I haven't tried the brown, but I love the black,

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Speaker 4: I just read some great things. Natio Extreme Volume mascara

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Speaker 4: sixteen ninety five vouch for that in the black, and

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Speaker 4: it's tubula yes exactly, also comes in the chocolate brown.

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Speaker 4: And then Tower twenty eight was the highest rated that's

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Speaker 4: thirty five and the chocolate color is meant to be.

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Speaker 1: I love their black one. I love so much Tower

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Speaker 1: twenty eight. I'm obsessed.

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Speaker 3: Don't matter anything.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait, I try to lip balm woman, get yourself

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Speaker 2: to Mecca, the little sos orange spray, the mini go,

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Speaker 1: I recently brought like a burgundy Muscara.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful, that's your color, haven't used to please?

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Speaker 4: Also like won't be super noticeable. It'll just like give

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Speaker 1: Ooh yeah yeah, but you just go, oh I've got

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, cmds put on your lushes.

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Speaker 4: So Francesca has asked, Hello, I'm twenty eight and starting

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Speaker 4: to notice fine lines around my eyes, but I also

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Speaker 4: still get the occasional breakout. I'm so confused about what

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Speaker 4: products to use. Do I focus on anti aging or

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Speaker 4: acne prevention? Can I use both retinal and salicylic acid.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm too young for any aging but

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Speaker 1: That's a song too young for men and too old

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Speaker 2: No, not the one anyway, you just made that up. No,

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Speaker 2: but there's a song like something like that. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: having a face.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I had awful acne when I was a teenager.

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Speaker 3: Oh, when you're a grown up, you won't get acne anymore.

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Speaker 4: Well us, then I got even worse acne, not worse,

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Speaker 4: but I've got bad acne again in my twenty Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you can see I've concealed it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just one spot. I'm not saying I'm

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Speaker 2: Blackney butch guy or I can't wait to go home

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Speaker 2: and pop him because he's ready. Okay, anyway, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get breakouts as particularly if you breakout prone. But you know, hormones, periods, pery, babies, postpartum.

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Speaker 1: Perry, pary bno, all of the things.

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Speaker 2: So what I would suggest is to not think of

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Speaker 2: your face as one entity like do face mapping.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying you get lines around your eyes.

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Speaker 2: Also, you're not too young for anti aging, So where

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Speaker 2: like anti aging has changed.

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Speaker 1: You used to think of like, you.

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Speaker 2: I like mesh bags because they don't take up any

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Just buff in any products so I'm not oily or

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Speaker 2: Love Morphy brushes, moldy and high highlighter brush, but just everything.

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Speaker 3: It's just I just really like it. Because of the little.

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Speaker 3: Stop talking, pimple patches.

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Speaker 1: Get in everything, brush, keep it in your bag for touchups.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. If it gets dirty, well we'll

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Speaker 1: It's not going to get two dot. You clean it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're done.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back later around the week with plenty of

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Speaker 4: glorious recommendations.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to send us your questions, which we talked

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Speaker 2: us on YouTube. If you didn't, head over to the

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Speaker 2: show notes click the link.

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Speaker 1: You can watch us on YouTube. We're also on TikTok

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Speaker 1: because we're so cool at

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Speaker 2: New Beauty pod You Beauty is produced by Molly Harwood

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Speaker 2: and Sophie Campbell, with audio production by Tina Madalov and

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Speaker 2: video production by Marlena kaciupd Bye