1 00:00:10,705 --> 00:00:13,425 Speaker 1: You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast. 2 00:00:13,945 --> 00:00:17,465 Speaker 2: Mama Mia acknowledges the traditional owners of land and Waters 3 00:00:17,505 --> 00:00:21,265 Speaker 2: that this podcast is recorded on Hey you biz Lee here. Now, 4 00:00:21,345 --> 00:00:24,825 Speaker 2: I know you love Spendy Savie. It's the most popular segment. 5 00:00:25,265 --> 00:00:27,345 Speaker 2: But did you know over on Nothing to Wear, we 6 00:00:27,505 --> 00:00:28,985 Speaker 2: have the version. 7 00:00:28,745 --> 00:00:29,585 Speaker 1: For your clothes. 8 00:00:29,665 --> 00:00:32,545 Speaker 2: It's called Bougie and Budget and it's my favorite part 9 00:00:32,625 --> 00:00:34,745 Speaker 2: of the Nothing to Wear podcasts. So have a listened 10 00:00:34,745 --> 00:00:36,265 Speaker 2: to this episode and let me know what you think 11 00:00:36,305 --> 00:00:37,465 Speaker 2: of my Bougie and Budget. 12 00:00:39,785 --> 00:00:42,585 Speaker 1: Whoever said orange is a new pink with seriously disserved 13 00:00:42,745 --> 00:00:47,185 Speaker 1: laurels spraying groundbreaking? Oh my god, you have to do it. 14 00:00:47,225 --> 00:00:48,465 Speaker 1: You live for fashion. 15 00:00:50,745 --> 00:00:53,505 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Nothing to Wear, the podcast that 16 00:00:53,585 --> 00:00:54,985 Speaker 2: solves fashion problems and. 17 00:00:55,025 --> 00:00:56,425 Speaker 1: Levels up your wardrobe. 18 00:00:56,545 --> 00:00:59,265 Speaker 2: I'm Lee Campbell, and every week I talk to an 19 00:00:59,265 --> 00:01:01,505 Speaker 2: expert who helps us work out how to get more 20 00:01:01,585 --> 00:01:03,865 Speaker 2: out of the clothes we already own and tells us 21 00:01:03,905 --> 00:01:07,785 Speaker 2: exactly what is and what isn't worth adding to our wardrobe. Today, 22 00:01:07,905 --> 00:01:11,385 Speaker 2: I'm joined by someone who's usually behind the scenes, but 23 00:01:11,705 --> 00:01:15,905 Speaker 2: I've admired her career and style four years. Her name 24 00:01:16,065 --> 00:01:20,505 Speaker 2: is Eliza Sorman Nilsen. She's kind of my boss. She's 25 00:01:20,545 --> 00:01:22,865 Speaker 2: currently the head of content here at Mamma Mia, but 26 00:01:22,985 --> 00:01:26,545 Speaker 2: her fashion credentials stretch far beyond our office walls. 27 00:01:26,865 --> 00:01:27,985 Speaker 1: With over fifteen. 28 00:01:27,705 --> 00:01:32,145 Speaker 2: Years in the industry, Eliza's CV is pretty impressive. She's 29 00:01:32,185 --> 00:01:36,985 Speaker 2: worked at influential style publications both here in Australia and Scandinavia. 30 00:01:37,505 --> 00:01:41,065 Speaker 2: She was the digital editor at Vogue Scandinavia you Know 31 00:01:41,185 --> 00:01:44,265 Speaker 2: No Biggie, and before that she was at Australia's Shop 32 00:01:44,345 --> 00:01:47,225 Speaker 2: You Drop magazine, which I also worked at Cleo and 33 00:01:47,385 --> 00:01:50,705 Speaker 2: Madison Magazine. Now, the reason I'm excited and I forced 34 00:01:50,705 --> 00:01:52,905 Speaker 2: her onto the podcast is is because I think she 35 00:01:53,185 --> 00:01:56,745 Speaker 2: is the definition of personal style. She always looks great, 36 00:01:57,105 --> 00:02:00,105 Speaker 2: She looks like she's thrown it together and you wouldn't 37 00:02:00,145 --> 00:02:02,865 Speaker 2: think it works. She's not a huge trend follower from 38 00:02:02,865 --> 00:02:05,185 Speaker 2: what I can see, but she always looks very stylish 39 00:02:05,305 --> 00:02:08,025 Speaker 2: and to me, that's personal style. So I'm going to 40 00:02:08,065 --> 00:02:11,105 Speaker 2: pick her brain all about her un global perspective on 41 00:02:11,185 --> 00:02:14,505 Speaker 2: everything from micro trends to sustainable fashion and where she 42 00:02:14,545 --> 00:02:17,145 Speaker 2: thinks the fashion media landscape is going next. 43 00:02:17,385 --> 00:02:19,825 Speaker 1: Eliza, welcome to the show. Thank you for having me. 44 00:02:20,145 --> 00:02:23,265 Speaker 1: You're kind of my boss. Yeah, and you're very behind 45 00:02:23,265 --> 00:02:26,625 Speaker 1: the scenes, yes, which is where I normally like to be. 46 00:02:26,785 --> 00:02:29,065 Speaker 1: But you're very fashionable and styla shit. 47 00:02:29,105 --> 00:02:31,065 Speaker 2: We'll get into in a moment, but before we do, 48 00:02:31,465 --> 00:02:34,985 Speaker 2: I always ask first time guests the same two questions. So, firstly, 49 00:02:35,145 --> 00:02:37,385 Speaker 2: can you describe your style in three words? 50 00:02:37,425 --> 00:02:41,345 Speaker 1: And what are they? I actually hate this question. It's 51 00:02:41,425 --> 00:02:46,225 Speaker 1: because you just sound very up yourself. But I think 52 00:02:46,305 --> 00:02:50,225 Speaker 1: I would say maybe like non ego as one word, 53 00:02:50,425 --> 00:02:54,345 Speaker 1: playing that please in that I don't really care that 54 00:02:54,425 --> 00:02:57,945 Speaker 1: much about brands. I just like a look, and I'm 55 00:02:57,945 --> 00:02:59,265 Speaker 1: happy to play with high end loss. 56 00:02:59,305 --> 00:03:00,825 Speaker 2: That's why you're on the topic that we're about to 57 00:03:00,825 --> 00:03:02,545 Speaker 2: talk about, because that's exactly what you do. 58 00:03:02,825 --> 00:03:05,825 Speaker 1: Yeah, what else? I think I would also say classic. 59 00:03:05,865 --> 00:03:09,025 Speaker 2: Hmm, but not Chanelle Ballet flat classic, You're more like 60 00:03:09,265 --> 00:03:11,025 Speaker 2: with a bit of a twist. Yeah. 61 00:03:11,065 --> 00:03:17,025 Speaker 1: And then my third word would be potentially daring love it, 62 00:03:17,305 --> 00:03:21,585 Speaker 1: which feels a bit, but thatsition married the classic and 63 00:03:21,625 --> 00:03:23,945 Speaker 1: the daring opposites attract and that's how you get your 64 00:03:24,025 --> 00:03:26,345 Speaker 1: unique style. Yeah, that's nice, thank you. 65 00:03:26,665 --> 00:03:30,185 Speaker 2: Most people wear a small portion of their wardrobe a lot, 66 00:03:30,265 --> 00:03:32,185 Speaker 2: so ten percent of their wardrobe ninety percent of the 67 00:03:32,185 --> 00:03:34,665 Speaker 2: time is their rough staff. So what's in your ten 68 00:03:34,705 --> 00:03:36,865 Speaker 2: percent that you reach four more than the other stuff? 69 00:03:37,145 --> 00:03:38,905 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think this is really interesting because I 70 00:03:38,905 --> 00:03:41,025 Speaker 1: actually do think I probably wear about thirty percent of 71 00:03:41,065 --> 00:03:42,505 Speaker 1: my wardrobe. You wear a lot. 72 00:03:42,545 --> 00:03:44,145 Speaker 2: Well, not that I've been to your wardrobe, but I 73 00:03:44,185 --> 00:03:46,865 Speaker 2: feel like you don't just wear things once, but I 74 00:03:46,905 --> 00:03:50,505 Speaker 2: see you mixing and matching items in different ways, So 75 00:03:50,545 --> 00:03:52,225 Speaker 2: I think you must wear more than ten percent. 76 00:03:52,305 --> 00:03:55,585 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's also because our workplace, you can 77 00:03:55,665 --> 00:03:58,505 Speaker 1: really express yourself here, and I will have lots of 78 00:03:58,545 --> 00:04:01,265 Speaker 1: client meetings. So don't really ever want to wear the 79 00:04:01,305 --> 00:04:03,545 Speaker 1: same thing all the time as in the whole same 80 00:04:03,585 --> 00:04:08,025 Speaker 1: outfit exactly exactly. So I would say, if it's weekend, 81 00:04:08,305 --> 00:04:12,745 Speaker 1: oversized tea with little kind of rugby or boxer shorts 82 00:04:12,985 --> 00:04:17,625 Speaker 1: with socks and like sambos samos kind of socks, like 83 00:04:17,865 --> 00:04:21,825 Speaker 1: slightly long. Okay, you're cool, you can see them. Always 84 00:04:22,265 --> 00:04:27,945 Speaker 1: have a chunky gold necklace, Always have chunky gold hoops. 85 00:04:28,385 --> 00:04:32,505 Speaker 1: Always wear body suits like me. I'm not Beyonce like 86 00:04:32,585 --> 00:04:35,785 Speaker 1: march around in Aliatard, but I love a body suit, 87 00:04:35,985 --> 00:04:38,825 Speaker 1: like as a foundation. Like I'm wearing one right now. 88 00:04:39,145 --> 00:04:41,305 Speaker 1: What I love about a bodysuit. I think everyone should 89 00:04:41,305 --> 00:04:43,825 Speaker 1: own them. I find them very comfortable to wear, but 90 00:04:44,185 --> 00:04:47,145 Speaker 1: they just give you such a good line. I think 91 00:04:47,145 --> 00:04:49,185 Speaker 1: it elevates looks and then you don't have to really 92 00:04:49,185 --> 00:04:51,305 Speaker 1: worry about the tucking in because it's tucked in under 93 00:04:51,305 --> 00:04:53,905 Speaker 1: your beer and it's tucked in nicely. Yes, so I 94 00:04:53,985 --> 00:04:56,865 Speaker 1: often wear body suits. I'll have quite a few. So 95 00:04:56,905 --> 00:04:58,585 Speaker 1: then you can wear them with jeans, you can wear 96 00:04:58,585 --> 00:05:01,305 Speaker 1: them with like I'm wearing a suit today. I honestly 97 00:05:01,305 --> 00:05:04,505 Speaker 1: believe they really elevate you look. Skims are great because 98 00:05:04,505 --> 00:05:07,665 Speaker 1: they're just also fit your body. They're so comfortable, and 99 00:05:07,785 --> 00:05:09,665 Speaker 1: k might also have a really good range of blos. 100 00:05:09,665 --> 00:05:11,065 Speaker 1: They're still them with David Jones if you want to 101 00:05:11,065 --> 00:05:13,945 Speaker 1: go try it. Yeah, So anyway, I love skims. What 102 00:05:14,025 --> 00:05:17,465 Speaker 1: is suits? But also like I will wear suits and 103 00:05:17,705 --> 00:05:19,825 Speaker 1: lots of jeans and lots of blazers. 104 00:05:19,945 --> 00:05:21,505 Speaker 2: Well, the reason you're here is kind of to talk 105 00:05:21,545 --> 00:05:23,745 Speaker 2: about how you do mix it up. So you've had 106 00:05:23,785 --> 00:05:27,345 Speaker 2: many past lives career wise, they're all kind of related 107 00:05:27,385 --> 00:05:29,905 Speaker 2: in a way. Editor at Vogue Scandinavia, no big deal. 108 00:05:30,665 --> 00:05:33,985 Speaker 2: Before that, you're in magazines like Madison and shopped you Drop. 109 00:05:34,025 --> 00:05:36,505 Speaker 2: We were both at Shop to you Drop their different times, 110 00:05:36,505 --> 00:05:38,585 Speaker 2: work in the same building. And now you're head of 111 00:05:38,625 --> 00:05:42,065 Speaker 2: content and Mamma Mia like massive. So with all of that, 112 00:05:42,105 --> 00:05:44,465 Speaker 2: you obviously have a passion which is women and telling 113 00:05:44,505 --> 00:05:46,665 Speaker 2: stories and what content they want to know about. 114 00:05:47,305 --> 00:05:50,625 Speaker 1: Why does that interest you? And as it always interests you. Yeah, 115 00:05:50,745 --> 00:05:54,545 Speaker 1: I think I always loved telling stories, Like I would 116 00:05:54,745 --> 00:05:57,225 Speaker 1: sit down my sisters and my brothers and I would 117 00:05:57,345 --> 00:06:00,185 Speaker 1: tell them stories. I'd also style them, like from a 118 00:06:00,265 --> 00:06:03,225 Speaker 1: very young age, it was always about storytelling and dress 119 00:06:03,505 --> 00:06:07,105 Speaker 1: and dress ups. But I think I started off as 120 00:06:07,145 --> 00:06:09,625 Speaker 1: a sub editor at Madison Magazine. So my first job 121 00:06:09,705 --> 00:06:12,905 Speaker 1: job was writing the copy for all the fashion pages. 122 00:06:12,905 --> 00:06:15,665 Speaker 2: So that you explain what a sub editor does for 123 00:06:15,745 --> 00:06:18,665 Speaker 2: those that don't know, because now I know. 124 00:06:18,865 --> 00:06:21,985 Speaker 1: So the sub editor used to well they still do. 125 00:06:22,065 --> 00:06:24,865 Speaker 1: They still exist. But a sub editor would read all 126 00:06:24,905 --> 00:06:27,705 Speaker 1: of the stories, make sure the grammar was all correct, 127 00:06:28,225 --> 00:06:32,185 Speaker 1: make sure it was written well, would edit copy. 128 00:06:32,145 --> 00:06:34,465 Speaker 2: And have to take out like if there's a word out, 129 00:06:34,465 --> 00:06:35,905 Speaker 2: it's too big and it's got to fit on a page. 130 00:06:35,905 --> 00:06:37,505 Speaker 2: I used to fight with my subs all the time, 131 00:06:37,545 --> 00:06:39,465 Speaker 2: and they're like, you're waffling on this is. 132 00:06:40,025 --> 00:06:43,105 Speaker 1: That red pen. I was the red pen, and we'd 133 00:06:43,105 --> 00:06:45,385 Speaker 1: come up with headlines, we come up with captions. But 134 00:06:45,505 --> 00:06:48,305 Speaker 1: what I loved about the job was I would work 135 00:06:48,345 --> 00:06:50,265 Speaker 1: really closely with the fashion team and a lot of 136 00:06:50,265 --> 00:06:53,305 Speaker 1: the stylists. They're not necessarily trained writers, so I get 137 00:06:53,345 --> 00:06:55,745 Speaker 1: to write all their pages, so I would get to 138 00:06:55,745 --> 00:06:58,905 Speaker 1: write about trends. I worked with some of the best 139 00:06:59,305 --> 00:07:02,465 Speaker 1: fashion stylists in Australia and so I would sit with them. 140 00:07:02,785 --> 00:07:05,385 Speaker 1: They would say, this is what's happening on the runway. 141 00:07:05,545 --> 00:07:07,825 Speaker 1: This is a trend. Now you go write about it 142 00:07:07,985 --> 00:07:10,425 Speaker 1: to like fill the beautiful pages. So that's where I 143 00:07:10,545 --> 00:07:13,585 Speaker 1: started really learning about fashion because I would sit with 144 00:07:13,625 --> 00:07:16,145 Speaker 1: those really good editors and they would then teach me 145 00:07:16,505 --> 00:07:19,305 Speaker 1: how to shop, how to shop the runways, what trends 146 00:07:19,345 --> 00:07:21,625 Speaker 1: to buy, what trends are not to buy, you know, 147 00:07:21,745 --> 00:07:24,265 Speaker 1: ones that would stay around, and so I just I 148 00:07:24,305 --> 00:07:26,505 Speaker 1: loved that. But I also just love that women are 149 00:07:26,505 --> 00:07:30,465 Speaker 1: so multifaceted, Like fashion is also such an important part 150 00:07:30,465 --> 00:07:33,305 Speaker 1: of culture. It's such an important part of history, and 151 00:07:33,785 --> 00:07:37,665 Speaker 1: what you wear really really can like send messages like 152 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:40,345 Speaker 1: I feel at Taylor Swift, there's easter eggs in her clothes. 153 00:07:40,545 --> 00:07:43,985 Speaker 2: You look at like Malania Trump, what she wears, like 154 00:07:44,025 --> 00:07:46,225 Speaker 2: literally what she says on her jacket exactly. 155 00:07:46,625 --> 00:07:50,065 Speaker 1: So I think that tie with fashion and culture has 156 00:07:50,065 --> 00:07:52,825 Speaker 1: always really interested me and it's really powerful. 157 00:07:52,905 --> 00:07:54,705 Speaker 2: It is, and I think we don't judge a book 158 00:07:54,705 --> 00:07:57,745 Speaker 2: by its cover, but what you wear does present you 159 00:07:57,785 --> 00:07:59,025 Speaker 2: to the world in a certain way. And that's not 160 00:07:59,025 --> 00:08:01,145 Speaker 2: about spending a lot of money or you know, having 161 00:08:01,225 --> 00:08:04,065 Speaker 2: to have a particular style. I love that everyone's unique, 162 00:08:04,065 --> 00:08:05,585 Speaker 2: and that's why I wanted to have you here because 163 00:08:05,625 --> 00:08:08,145 Speaker 2: I think, whether you meant it or not, you've really 164 00:08:08,225 --> 00:08:11,345 Speaker 2: nailed personal style. When I think of you, you have 165 00:08:11,465 --> 00:08:13,505 Speaker 2: a personal style that it's not like anyone else I know, 166 00:08:14,065 --> 00:08:16,785 Speaker 2: but not in a weird, wacky art teacher way or 167 00:08:16,825 --> 00:08:18,705 Speaker 2: like you could be like you know, you had just 168 00:08:18,865 --> 00:08:21,545 Speaker 2: have the most unique personal style in your career that 169 00:08:21,585 --> 00:08:24,785 Speaker 2: we just discussed. You've witnessed the evolution of fashion and 170 00:08:24,865 --> 00:08:28,465 Speaker 2: content from print we were both at magazines, to digital yeah, 171 00:08:28,625 --> 00:08:29,785 Speaker 2: and then social media. 172 00:08:30,265 --> 00:08:31,385 Speaker 1: Wow. We've been through a lot. 173 00:08:31,425 --> 00:08:35,465 Speaker 2: So how has this transformation changed what women wear? 174 00:08:35,785 --> 00:08:38,545 Speaker 1: Do you think and what you wear personally? I do 175 00:08:38,625 --> 00:08:41,385 Speaker 1: really think you've seen through the years fashion's gone from 176 00:08:41,425 --> 00:08:45,345 Speaker 1: really aspirational too about personal style. I think, you know, 177 00:08:45,465 --> 00:08:47,985 Speaker 1: back in the day you just did have the magazines, 178 00:08:48,105 --> 00:08:52,545 Speaker 1: but the Internet and especially TikTok, and I think YouTube 179 00:08:52,585 --> 00:08:56,985 Speaker 1: as well now and Instagram and Instagram of course, but 180 00:08:57,065 --> 00:09:00,385 Speaker 1: I'm thinking more video, like you know, the led platforms. 181 00:09:00,745 --> 00:09:05,185 Speaker 1: Anyone can be a fashion editor. Now anyone can put 182 00:09:05,225 --> 00:09:07,265 Speaker 1: out their own style. And it's also what I think 183 00:09:07,305 --> 00:09:12,625 Speaker 1: has happened is now you can see people styling brands 184 00:09:12,625 --> 00:09:15,505 Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily associate with fashion, you know, the 185 00:09:15,665 --> 00:09:18,905 Speaker 1: high street, but even just like more budget brands, and 186 00:09:18,945 --> 00:09:21,905 Speaker 1: you can see people doing amazing things. So it's become 187 00:09:21,985 --> 00:09:24,905 Speaker 1: a lot more accessible. I think fashion has become a 188 00:09:24,945 --> 00:09:27,985 Speaker 1: lot more accessible. It's kind of lost that polish and 189 00:09:28,025 --> 00:09:31,025 Speaker 1: it's more about the individual rather than this is the trend, 190 00:09:31,145 --> 00:09:32,505 Speaker 1: we all must follow that now. 191 00:09:32,665 --> 00:09:34,745 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so true, and I think also, yeah, I 192 00:09:34,745 --> 00:09:37,145 Speaker 2: mean social media is a double edged sword in terms 193 00:09:37,145 --> 00:09:39,545 Speaker 2: of sort of consumerism and thinking everyone's got heaps of 194 00:09:39,545 --> 00:09:41,345 Speaker 2: stuff and you don't. But what I love about it 195 00:09:41,385 --> 00:09:44,065 Speaker 2: is you can discover new brands or underground brands or 196 00:09:44,065 --> 00:09:46,425 Speaker 2: small brands, or you can get ideas of how to 197 00:09:46,425 --> 00:09:49,425 Speaker 2: put things together. And that's how you wear more of 198 00:09:49,585 --> 00:09:51,545 Speaker 2: your wardrobe than the ten percent, which I feel like 199 00:09:51,585 --> 00:09:55,145 Speaker 2: you absolutely nail. Where does your style inspo come from. 200 00:09:55,545 --> 00:09:57,545 Speaker 1: I'm on the internet a lot. It's where I work, 201 00:09:57,585 --> 00:10:00,505 Speaker 1: but also really inspired by the people around me as well. 202 00:10:00,825 --> 00:10:04,345 Speaker 1: I love people watching. I loved street style, like street 203 00:10:04,385 --> 00:10:06,785 Speaker 1: style back in the day when it first started, like 204 00:10:06,785 --> 00:10:09,625 Speaker 1: the cterialists, Oh my god, remember that. Yeah, like style. 205 00:10:10,265 --> 00:10:13,145 Speaker 1: I loved street style life. That was my thing. I 206 00:10:13,385 --> 00:10:16,905 Speaker 1: just could scroll for hours. I also get really inspired 207 00:10:16,905 --> 00:10:21,665 Speaker 1: by newsletters. I sign up to a lot of brand's newsletters. 208 00:10:21,665 --> 00:10:24,345 Speaker 1: That's interesting. If there's a brand I like, I will 209 00:10:24,385 --> 00:10:27,105 Speaker 1: sign up to the newsletters straight away. And I just 210 00:10:27,345 --> 00:10:29,625 Speaker 1: love going through my inbox I've had. It's so relaxing 211 00:10:29,745 --> 00:10:31,705 Speaker 1: and you're just like, that's the new outfit. Okay, so 212 00:10:31,785 --> 00:10:34,305 Speaker 1: that's kind of the look that they're going for this season. 213 00:10:34,345 --> 00:10:36,665 Speaker 1: Oh it's a little bit more laid back and effortless, 214 00:10:36,945 --> 00:10:40,105 Speaker 1: and so you kind of know what everyone's doing that season, 215 00:10:40,225 --> 00:10:42,305 Speaker 1: and then you can kind of start seeing it in 216 00:10:42,385 --> 00:10:45,425 Speaker 1: street style and understand the pieces and you can see also, 217 00:10:45,505 --> 00:10:48,945 Speaker 1: like you know, a trend if one brand's doing this skirt, 218 00:10:49,025 --> 00:10:51,545 Speaker 1: oh that skirts in every brand. Okay, so that's the 219 00:10:51,585 --> 00:10:53,705 Speaker 1: skirt of the season. You kind of follow the story. Yeah, 220 00:10:53,745 --> 00:10:55,785 Speaker 1: and I love the newsletter because it just comes to me. 221 00:10:56,705 --> 00:10:59,665 Speaker 2: I save my adms my newsletters for Sunday mornings, so 222 00:10:59,705 --> 00:11:00,945 Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, I used to go 223 00:11:00,945 --> 00:11:02,985 Speaker 2: get the Sunday paper or read it a cafe, And 224 00:11:03,025 --> 00:11:05,545 Speaker 2: now I read my favorite newsletters in my inbox on 225 00:11:05,585 --> 00:11:06,265 Speaker 2: a Sunday morning. 226 00:11:06,345 --> 00:11:10,545 Speaker 1: It's so relaxing and fun. Interestingly, this career and over 227 00:11:10,545 --> 00:11:12,985 Speaker 1: your life, you've lived in Sweden. Yeah, and then you 228 00:11:13,105 --> 00:11:15,225 Speaker 1: kind of recently came back to Australia what two years 229 00:11:15,265 --> 00:11:18,065 Speaker 1: ago now, yeah, nearly two years. Two years. So what 230 00:11:18,145 --> 00:11:20,985 Speaker 1: did you take from Scandinavian style because I feel like 231 00:11:21,425 --> 00:11:23,145 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, you tell me how does it 232 00:11:23,185 --> 00:11:25,865 Speaker 1: differ or how is it similar to Australian women and 233 00:11:25,905 --> 00:11:28,825 Speaker 1: their style. Well, so Scandinavians are a lot more dressed 234 00:11:28,865 --> 00:11:32,585 Speaker 1: up then, yeah, I think Australians are a lot more 235 00:11:32,585 --> 00:11:37,425 Speaker 1: easy going and laid back. It's more active wear in Australia, yes, 236 00:11:37,625 --> 00:11:41,665 Speaker 1: And in Sweden I would wear my tights and get looks. 237 00:11:42,065 --> 00:11:45,305 Speaker 1: So many other cultures do not wear active wear unless 238 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:46,985 Speaker 1: you're going to the gym, unless you're going to the gym, 239 00:11:47,025 --> 00:11:50,145 Speaker 1: and even then you're wearing your jeans and you're changing 240 00:11:50,145 --> 00:11:52,105 Speaker 1: at the gym and you're changing back into your jeans. 241 00:11:52,345 --> 00:11:55,345 Speaker 1: I was very like too Inarest when I would wear 242 00:11:55,345 --> 00:11:57,185 Speaker 1: my active wear and then my friends would come and 243 00:11:57,225 --> 00:11:58,465 Speaker 1: visit and I'm like, do you not wear your active 244 00:11:58,465 --> 00:12:02,985 Speaker 1: where you're embarrassing? But it was like clean lines, tailoring. 245 00:12:03,425 --> 00:12:07,265 Speaker 1: They mastered that art of that oversize just that like 246 00:12:07,465 --> 00:12:12,425 Speaker 1: hair oversized everything, so the shirts, the tailoring, and I 247 00:12:12,465 --> 00:12:14,665 Speaker 1: think when you look at I know you talk about 248 00:12:14,745 --> 00:12:17,545 Speaker 1: like Copenhagen style a lot like the street style, and 249 00:12:17,585 --> 00:12:20,145 Speaker 1: what comes out of the fashion weeks is really colorful, 250 00:12:20,385 --> 00:12:23,745 Speaker 1: but the everyday person it is more your blacks and 251 00:12:23,785 --> 00:12:26,625 Speaker 1: your mutuols, a bit more toned down, a bit more 252 00:12:26,665 --> 00:12:30,265 Speaker 1: toned down. They are so good at layering. So he's 253 00:12:30,265 --> 00:12:32,785 Speaker 1: at the weather because yeah, exactly because of the weather. 254 00:12:32,825 --> 00:12:36,825 Speaker 1: But like wearing a trench coat, it's so considered, like 255 00:12:36,905 --> 00:12:40,585 Speaker 1: in Australia, there's actually no need to wear a trench no. Yeah, 256 00:12:40,585 --> 00:12:41,985 Speaker 1: but all you've got under it is a tea. But 257 00:12:42,025 --> 00:12:44,905 Speaker 1: the public they've got they've got a great nit, but 258 00:12:44,985 --> 00:12:48,345 Speaker 1: they know how to use the right fibers. To layer 259 00:12:48,465 --> 00:12:50,825 Speaker 1: so that you're not bulky. What they wear, it's so 260 00:12:50,985 --> 00:12:55,025 Speaker 1: intentional and effortless. That's a lot lots of tailoring. And 261 00:12:55,065 --> 00:12:56,545 Speaker 1: I feel like you brought that home with you because 262 00:12:56,545 --> 00:12:58,705 Speaker 1: you do that very well. Yeah, I love like. I 263 00:12:58,905 --> 00:13:01,225 Speaker 1: definitely would never have worn a suit before I went 264 00:13:01,305 --> 00:13:03,745 Speaker 1: to Sweden, and now I like, Oh, I love a suit. 265 00:13:14,505 --> 00:13:17,145 Speaker 2: I'm sure you've gathered some information and favorites from over there, 266 00:13:17,145 --> 00:13:19,145 Speaker 2: So can you tell us a bit about your favorite 267 00:13:19,185 --> 00:13:20,745 Speaker 2: scandy brands or designers. 268 00:13:20,985 --> 00:13:25,025 Speaker 1: Yep, so obviously love Acne. I thought Acne was American. No, yeah, 269 00:13:25,065 --> 00:13:28,705 Speaker 1: they're Swedish, very very Swedish. So Acne is your genes 270 00:13:28,985 --> 00:13:31,865 Speaker 1: that really cool street vibes. But one of the creators 271 00:13:31,865 --> 00:13:35,345 Speaker 1: of Acne has also started Eighties, which is great. Look 272 00:13:35,345 --> 00:13:39,225 Speaker 1: it up. It's e yt Ys. Please hold I google 273 00:13:39,265 --> 00:13:43,945 Speaker 1: everything in these shows. Yes, yt Ys really cool. The 274 00:13:44,065 --> 00:13:46,665 Speaker 1: website is actually down at the moment, which is sad, 275 00:13:46,705 --> 00:13:48,785 Speaker 1: but you can see their stuff on you and you 276 00:13:48,825 --> 00:13:51,025 Speaker 1: can get it on far fettion ss sense I don't 277 00:13:51,025 --> 00:13:55,425 Speaker 1: even know. Yeah, they do really cool jeans, really cool boots, 278 00:13:55,465 --> 00:13:59,425 Speaker 1: really cool. I love Rugby Jersey. I was wearing one yesterday. 279 00:13:59,625 --> 00:14:02,985 Speaker 1: They did cool rugby jerseys, cool bomber jackets, like just 280 00:14:03,065 --> 00:14:06,905 Speaker 1: that street style iconic. Oh is it amazing? I didn't 281 00:14:06,905 --> 00:14:11,185 Speaker 1: even know that. Love Stand Studios. Love is stan Stand 282 00:14:11,865 --> 00:14:15,945 Speaker 1: Studio and Studio s T A. N D and Studios. 283 00:14:16,065 --> 00:14:19,545 Speaker 1: They do leather, really really good leather, so like great 284 00:14:19,625 --> 00:14:23,265 Speaker 1: leather skirts, great leather jackets. So it's an investment price point. Yeah, 285 00:14:23,305 --> 00:14:25,985 Speaker 1: investment price point. Incredible out of web. So I have 286 00:14:26,065 --> 00:14:29,665 Speaker 1: some really good fake for coats, but it's so funny. 287 00:14:29,665 --> 00:14:31,665 Speaker 1: I wear them to the office and everyone's like, oh, 288 00:14:31,745 --> 00:14:34,865 Speaker 1: there's Miranda Priestley. Yeah, and you're like, excuse me, I've 289 00:14:34,865 --> 00:14:39,625 Speaker 1: got individual style. I'm from Scandinavia. Yeah, so really incredible. 290 00:14:40,025 --> 00:14:44,585 Speaker 1: Obviously a Nina being obviously Ganny. It's so fun Ganny 291 00:14:44,865 --> 00:14:48,225 Speaker 1: is also really good to buy secondhand because it lasts. 292 00:14:48,545 --> 00:14:50,945 Speaker 1: Look up Jade Cropper. That's the brand that all the 293 00:14:51,025 --> 00:14:54,945 Speaker 1: cool girls are wearing. Celebrities, Yeah, like Flight, the Kardashians. 294 00:14:54,985 --> 00:14:58,905 Speaker 1: It's also all that kind of draping high high here, 295 00:14:59,825 --> 00:15:02,905 Speaker 1: the rounded shoulders, the asymmetrical bunching. 296 00:15:03,465 --> 00:15:06,305 Speaker 2: I mean like it's yes, look a middriff is four 297 00:15:06,385 --> 00:15:09,305 Speaker 2: hundred and sixty nine dollars, but it's good too, yes, 298 00:15:09,345 --> 00:15:11,785 Speaker 2: se Yeah, and sign up to the adms and the 299 00:15:11,865 --> 00:15:13,625 Speaker 2: newsletters or just have a look. Yeah. 300 00:15:13,665 --> 00:15:15,945 Speaker 1: I think it's just also seeing the different styles because 301 00:15:16,665 --> 00:15:19,625 Speaker 1: then you go and you see, oh, what's a dupe version? 302 00:15:19,665 --> 00:15:21,105 Speaker 2: And some of these brands you can get here. I 303 00:15:21,145 --> 00:15:23,385 Speaker 2: mean obviously with the internet mostly can get everything. Yeah. 304 00:15:23,465 --> 00:15:25,505 Speaker 2: I want to talk about not just those brands, but 305 00:15:25,625 --> 00:15:29,825 Speaker 2: sort of globally and in Australia. Fashion trends Yep, you've 306 00:15:29,825 --> 00:15:31,865 Speaker 2: talked about how you kind of research them. 307 00:15:32,265 --> 00:15:33,505 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on them. 308 00:15:33,465 --> 00:15:37,385 Speaker 2: As a topic. Do you find they're moving too fast? 309 00:15:37,545 --> 00:15:40,025 Speaker 2: Do you find we're calling everything a trend when it's 310 00:15:40,105 --> 00:15:40,545 Speaker 2: a color? 311 00:15:40,705 --> 00:15:43,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's moving pretty fast. It is really 312 00:15:43,865 --> 00:15:46,465 Speaker 1: hard to keep up, and I just think sometimes it's 313 00:15:46,465 --> 00:15:48,465 Speaker 1: just not worth keeping up. But I also think we 314 00:15:48,585 --> 00:15:51,825 Speaker 1: label things that's just an item as a trend. 315 00:15:52,505 --> 00:15:54,385 Speaker 2: It's great that there's a name, but it kind of 316 00:15:54,425 --> 00:15:56,265 Speaker 2: makes it feel like then it goes in and out 317 00:15:56,345 --> 00:15:59,745 Speaker 2: when really it's just a lovely red item that didn't 318 00:15:59,825 --> 00:16:00,425 Speaker 2: need that lad. 319 00:16:00,505 --> 00:16:04,545 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's new and fresh or a different take on something. Yes, 320 00:16:04,785 --> 00:16:08,705 Speaker 1: So that's why I love knowing what everyone's wearing right now. 321 00:16:08,745 --> 00:16:11,665 Speaker 1: But I will have fully tap out. So you work 322 00:16:11,945 --> 00:16:15,025 Speaker 1: in the internet, as I say, yeah, and you're almost 323 00:16:15,465 --> 00:16:17,025 Speaker 1: always in the office when I get here. 324 00:16:17,385 --> 00:16:20,625 Speaker 2: You basically live here. So do you mostly shop online? 325 00:16:20,665 --> 00:16:24,625 Speaker 2: Do you shop iral in real life and either or 326 00:16:24,985 --> 00:16:27,585 Speaker 2: what are your go to sites or stores? I definitely 327 00:16:27,585 --> 00:16:30,305 Speaker 2: always shop online. I'll have my brands that I love 328 00:16:30,305 --> 00:16:33,225 Speaker 2: from newsletters. I love a big scroll on Dish. I 329 00:16:33,265 --> 00:16:36,585 Speaker 2: just I love seeing what Dish is doing. Love the iconic. 330 00:16:36,865 --> 00:16:39,825 Speaker 1: The Iconic's great for when you have that specific piece 331 00:16:39,865 --> 00:16:42,145 Speaker 1: and you want to know different price points, so you 332 00:16:42,265 --> 00:16:46,545 Speaker 1: use the filters to be like black black jeans size. Also, 333 00:16:46,625 --> 00:16:49,225 Speaker 1: I just think the algorithm on the Iconic's grade in 334 00:16:49,225 --> 00:16:50,745 Speaker 1: the sense that you find one piece and then you 335 00:16:50,745 --> 00:16:54,065 Speaker 1: can see all the different versions of it in different prices. 336 00:16:54,305 --> 00:16:57,225 Speaker 1: I always love to invest in swimwear because I just 337 00:16:57,225 --> 00:16:58,865 Speaker 1: feel like you, I show you you're often wearing it, 338 00:16:59,145 --> 00:17:01,825 Speaker 1: and I love a bodysuit, so I can then use it. 339 00:17:02,305 --> 00:17:06,265 Speaker 1: So like BONDI, I love their suit. It's like hons 340 00:17:06,305 --> 00:17:08,425 Speaker 1: of g am I saying it probably and then Epemera 341 00:17:08,585 --> 00:17:11,065 Speaker 1: so like they're my threes e Feme, you've had to 342 00:17:11,105 --> 00:17:13,945 Speaker 1: call on the show. Yeah, I love a one piece, 343 00:17:14,065 --> 00:17:16,305 Speaker 1: so I always invest there, but also I do that 344 00:17:16,345 --> 00:17:19,425 Speaker 1: online because it's like I know, I know the brands 345 00:17:19,825 --> 00:17:22,985 Speaker 1: love going to Venice. I love it. Yeah, I love it. 346 00:17:23,225 --> 00:17:25,265 Speaker 1: I think you've said it before in the podcast. I 347 00:17:25,305 --> 00:17:29,745 Speaker 1: find it relaxing. I find it like real. Yes, it's 348 00:17:29,785 --> 00:17:32,385 Speaker 1: such a challenge, it's so enjoyable. 349 00:17:32,545 --> 00:17:35,865 Speaker 2: It's generally more affordable, and also then you're saving something 350 00:17:35,905 --> 00:17:37,265 Speaker 2: from land film exactly. 351 00:17:37,625 --> 00:17:40,905 Speaker 1: I also look out for warehouse sales. If you want 352 00:17:40,905 --> 00:17:45,545 Speaker 1: to build out a classic like quality quality wardrobe, look 353 00:17:45,545 --> 00:17:48,225 Speaker 1: out for the warehouse sales. They're actually really worth it. 354 00:17:48,625 --> 00:17:50,665 Speaker 2: And thankfully a lot of brands now because you know 355 00:17:50,665 --> 00:17:52,705 Speaker 2: people are rural or not always in Sydney or Melbourne, 356 00:17:52,705 --> 00:17:53,745 Speaker 2: are doing them online. 357 00:17:53,625 --> 00:17:56,545 Speaker 1: Archive sales online. You really know what. I don't want 358 00:17:56,545 --> 00:17:57,865 Speaker 1: to have to go on line up or I can't, 359 00:17:57,985 --> 00:18:00,985 Speaker 1: or it's in Melbourne. Pop it online, we will buy it. 360 00:18:01,345 --> 00:18:05,385 Speaker 1: One thing that I really do with clothes is I 361 00:18:05,505 --> 00:18:09,705 Speaker 1: don't actually look that much at sizes. I actually I 362 00:18:09,745 --> 00:18:13,425 Speaker 1: got a lot of my clothes altered. Do you Yes, No, 363 00:18:13,545 --> 00:18:17,825 Speaker 1: it's not so, I think it's not. It depends on 364 00:18:17,985 --> 00:18:21,665 Speaker 1: if there's something you really like, it's good quality, you know, 365 00:18:21,825 --> 00:18:24,145 Speaker 1: if it fits better you're going to wear it more, 366 00:18:24,545 --> 00:18:27,745 Speaker 1: so that ten dollars or that twenty dollars is actually 367 00:18:27,785 --> 00:18:31,065 Speaker 1: worth it. So that's why I can shop online because 368 00:18:31,585 --> 00:18:34,065 Speaker 1: I often will go, Okay, I'm going to get a 369 00:18:34,145 --> 00:18:37,865 Speaker 1: bigger size, and I will get it to tailored. You're 370 00:18:37,945 --> 00:18:40,785 Speaker 1: quite tall. Do you have problems with pants? Yeah? Definitely, 371 00:18:41,225 --> 00:18:42,345 Speaker 1: pants online is hard. 372 00:18:42,425 --> 00:18:44,865 Speaker 2: I agree tailoring's worth it, particularly, like you say, if 373 00:18:44,905 --> 00:18:47,145 Speaker 2: you go to a warehouse sale, it's a good quality 374 00:18:47,185 --> 00:18:50,145 Speaker 2: brand and you know, maybe you've got it seventy percent off. Yes, 375 00:18:50,185 --> 00:18:51,505 Speaker 2: you might have to pay a little bit to get 376 00:18:51,505 --> 00:18:53,665 Speaker 2: it tweaked, but then it's fits you perfectly and you'll 377 00:18:53,665 --> 00:18:54,185 Speaker 2: have it forever. 378 00:18:54,385 --> 00:18:57,145 Speaker 1: One really good example of this is I bought in 379 00:18:57,145 --> 00:19:01,905 Speaker 1: a Marks and Spencer sale this beautiful tweed black dress 380 00:19:01,985 --> 00:19:04,585 Speaker 1: that it looks like it's a Chanel dress. I didn't 381 00:19:04,585 --> 00:19:07,745 Speaker 1: even look at this size. I got it. I got 382 00:19:07,785 --> 00:19:10,585 Speaker 1: it perfectly tailored for me. Now it does look. 383 00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:12,545 Speaker 2: Like shite, yes, and it probably fits you better than 384 00:19:12,665 --> 00:19:14,105 Speaker 2: the way it would have fit if you brought it 385 00:19:14,105 --> 00:19:16,505 Speaker 2: in your size, because you've had it made like perfectly 386 00:19:16,625 --> 00:19:18,745 Speaker 2: to you. Also, I think on that point as well, 387 00:19:18,785 --> 00:19:21,345 Speaker 2: just generally forget the tailoring part. But just I mean, 388 00:19:21,345 --> 00:19:22,745 Speaker 2: you've got to look at the size. But if you're 389 00:19:22,745 --> 00:19:24,905 Speaker 2: shopping in real life, I always will take in three 390 00:19:24,905 --> 00:19:28,505 Speaker 2: different sizes. Yeah, I might want it oversized some brands. 391 00:19:28,545 --> 00:19:31,545 Speaker 2: I know my size, but then if it's mid rise 392 00:19:31,665 --> 00:19:34,265 Speaker 2: or high rise. You know, you just if you look 393 00:19:34,305 --> 00:19:36,385 Speaker 2: at something and go, oh, that's not my size, just 394 00:19:36,385 --> 00:19:39,225 Speaker 2: think of it as a garment, an item, take a 395 00:19:39,225 --> 00:19:40,865 Speaker 2: few to try on. Or if there's a good returns 396 00:19:40,865 --> 00:19:43,745 Speaker 2: policy online, yeah, I always know the returns policy, always 397 00:19:43,785 --> 00:19:45,785 Speaker 2: know the returns policy. But just yeah, don't let that 398 00:19:45,865 --> 00:19:47,345 Speaker 2: dictate or make you feel bad. 399 00:19:47,545 --> 00:19:48,345 Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. 400 00:19:48,425 --> 00:19:52,145 Speaker 2: You know, I like literally have fifteen different types of 401 00:19:52,145 --> 00:19:53,145 Speaker 2: sizes in my wardrobe. 402 00:19:53,185 --> 00:19:55,225 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and all brands are so different. 403 00:19:55,465 --> 00:19:58,185 Speaker 2: So it's getting chilly now, and you lived somewhere that 404 00:19:58,265 --> 00:19:59,945 Speaker 2: got quite chili yeah. 405 00:19:59,825 --> 00:20:01,785 Speaker 1: Minus twenty three degrees chili. 406 00:20:02,185 --> 00:20:06,985 Speaker 2: Yes, very cold, So talk to me about winter dressing, 407 00:20:07,425 --> 00:20:09,625 Speaker 2: what you learn from over there or your vibes for now. 408 00:20:09,905 --> 00:20:13,225 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely looking at the fabrics. It's getting those 409 00:20:13,345 --> 00:20:16,225 Speaker 1: natural fibers so that then they're thinner not bulky, so 410 00:20:16,265 --> 00:20:19,105 Speaker 1: that you can layer. But my trick is to stick 411 00:20:19,145 --> 00:20:22,105 Speaker 1: to the like one silhouette rule. So like either an 412 00:20:22,145 --> 00:20:26,025 Speaker 1: oversized top with a thin slimmer bottle slimmer bottoms or 413 00:20:26,065 --> 00:20:29,785 Speaker 1: the reverse, because otherwise it can just get quite chunky. 414 00:20:29,905 --> 00:20:31,705 Speaker 2: Because I'm not used to going to cold cold. If 415 00:20:31,745 --> 00:20:33,665 Speaker 2: I ever travel to cold cold, I look like that 416 00:20:33,705 --> 00:20:35,905 Speaker 2: marshmallow and blow up man because I'm just like, must 417 00:20:35,945 --> 00:20:36,745 Speaker 2: stay warm. 418 00:20:37,145 --> 00:20:41,545 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so proportions. Proportions is definitely one thing, and 419 00:20:41,625 --> 00:20:44,785 Speaker 1: I just also think everyone should invest in a knitted 420 00:20:44,825 --> 00:20:48,985 Speaker 1: sleeveless vest. Oh what do you mean? You know those 421 00:20:48,985 --> 00:20:51,625 Speaker 1: like waistcoat style. I don't have one. I'm going to 422 00:20:51,665 --> 00:20:54,865 Speaker 1: show you can we do some good wine because they 423 00:20:54,905 --> 00:20:58,145 Speaker 1: are perfect to put over a shirt, or you can 424 00:20:58,225 --> 00:21:00,505 Speaker 1: just wear it by itself and it's still warm because 425 00:21:00,545 --> 00:21:05,465 Speaker 1: it's that knitted thought of item. Okay, yeah, so I 426 00:21:05,505 --> 00:21:09,185 Speaker 1: think about layering smart not bulky, and really look at 427 00:21:09,185 --> 00:21:22,865 Speaker 1: the fabric. It's very expensive. 428 00:21:23,705 --> 00:21:24,745 Speaker 2: How wud are these. 429 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:28,105 Speaker 1: All? Right? 430 00:21:28,185 --> 00:21:32,145 Speaker 2: My friends on tabouji and budget okay, hibougie, I think 431 00:21:32,145 --> 00:21:35,545 Speaker 2: I'm actually going to go with Nagnates Rydell short. 432 00:21:35,945 --> 00:21:38,465 Speaker 1: I know that we're going into winter and they'll be 433 00:21:38,545 --> 00:21:43,585 Speaker 1: extremely not appropriate. It's not really inappropriate, but I love 434 00:21:43,865 --> 00:21:46,785 Speaker 1: a good little mini short. Okay for the gym. Know 435 00:21:46,825 --> 00:21:50,305 Speaker 1: they're made of wool. Yeah, have you seen Nagnata? 436 00:21:50,305 --> 00:21:52,305 Speaker 2: I've got a pair of They're active wear shorts, which 437 00:21:52,305 --> 00:21:54,905 Speaker 2: I love. Yeah, when I'm active and when it's summer, 438 00:21:54,945 --> 00:21:56,545 Speaker 2: which hasn't been ether recently. 439 00:21:56,585 --> 00:22:00,265 Speaker 1: It's more lounge wary. Looks really really good with a shirt, 440 00:22:00,905 --> 00:22:03,585 Speaker 1: so I would team it with a shirt, a gold chain, 441 00:22:03,905 --> 00:22:05,985 Speaker 1: or it looks really good with an oversized tea and 442 00:22:06,025 --> 00:22:07,945 Speaker 1: then your socks in your sneakers, so it'd be part 443 00:22:07,985 --> 00:22:11,905 Speaker 1: of my weekend. How much two sixty for a pair 444 00:22:12,105 --> 00:22:14,425 Speaker 1: for a pair of woolen undies for a pair of 445 00:22:14,465 --> 00:22:16,865 Speaker 1: woolen undies. But you said I was allowed to do boogie. 446 00:22:16,945 --> 00:22:21,545 Speaker 2: You are an Aussie brand, good quality, natural fibers approved approved. Okay, 447 00:22:21,585 --> 00:22:26,145 Speaker 2: so my bougie isn't that bougie? They are a pair 448 00:22:26,225 --> 00:22:29,385 Speaker 2: of pants from an Aussie label called Moto Fashion. 449 00:22:29,705 --> 00:22:30,745 Speaker 1: I love these. 450 00:22:31,065 --> 00:22:33,305 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm gonna have to recommend the Navy because 451 00:22:33,305 --> 00:22:35,305 Speaker 2: at the time of recording, the burgundy is sold out. 452 00:22:35,625 --> 00:22:38,385 Speaker 2: They're called the Navy Faux Leather pocket Pants. I have 453 00:22:38,585 --> 00:22:40,465 Speaker 2: the wine color. 454 00:22:40,505 --> 00:22:43,465 Speaker 1: Yes, and I've seen you wear them and they are incredible. 455 00:22:43,505 --> 00:22:43,865 Speaker 1: I love them. 456 00:22:43,905 --> 00:22:47,785 Speaker 2: They're very comfortable, high waisted fly button pockets at the front, 457 00:22:47,825 --> 00:22:50,585 Speaker 2: but not that you put anything in them straight to whitish. Yeah, 458 00:22:50,865 --> 00:22:53,145 Speaker 2: I'm not doing the tight leather or faux leather at 459 00:22:53,185 --> 00:22:54,945 Speaker 2: the moment, not that there's anything wrong with that, but 460 00:22:54,985 --> 00:22:58,905 Speaker 2: they just are so comfortable. They're not cropped on me. 461 00:22:58,985 --> 00:23:00,385 Speaker 2: They might be too short on you, they might be 462 00:23:00,385 --> 00:23:00,665 Speaker 2: a bit. 463 00:23:00,945 --> 00:23:02,705 Speaker 1: I am a bit worried about that for me, but 464 00:23:02,785 --> 00:23:04,865 Speaker 1: they look so good on honestly. I mean they're one 465 00:23:05,025 --> 00:23:08,265 Speaker 1: fifty nine ninety five, so not crazy, but you can 466 00:23:08,265 --> 00:23:09,665 Speaker 1: get cheaper. But they're an assie. 467 00:23:09,985 --> 00:23:12,985 Speaker 2: The Navy's beautiful, like imagine the Navy with the gray mark. 468 00:23:13,385 --> 00:23:15,265 Speaker 2: But I just love the Burgundy. And they have a 469 00:23:15,265 --> 00:23:16,985 Speaker 2: really good size range of eight to twenty. 470 00:23:17,185 --> 00:23:18,825 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. It's so good. 471 00:23:18,905 --> 00:23:20,585 Speaker 2: So check them out online and see if they do 472 00:23:20,665 --> 00:23:23,665 Speaker 2: restock the burgundy. I have message to them, so fingers crossed. 473 00:23:23,825 --> 00:23:24,985 Speaker 2: All right, budget, my friend. 474 00:23:25,585 --> 00:23:27,865 Speaker 1: So for my budget, I'm going with a kmart piece. 475 00:23:28,065 --> 00:23:31,585 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is their long sleeve Oxford shirt. It 476 00:23:31,665 --> 00:23:35,065 Speaker 1: is incredible. It comes in a few different colors. How 477 00:23:35,065 --> 00:23:36,625 Speaker 1: many people do you think in the office has that. 478 00:23:36,865 --> 00:23:39,465 Speaker 1: I think it's mandatory, But the quality of It is 479 00:23:39,505 --> 00:23:41,225 Speaker 1: so good. It comes in a pink, it comes in 480 00:23:41,265 --> 00:23:41,705 Speaker 1: a white. 481 00:23:41,785 --> 00:23:43,065 Speaker 2: I wore that and someone said to me, it's that 482 00:23:43,145 --> 00:23:44,785 Speaker 2: Luova and I was like, oh no, but it's very 483 00:23:44,825 --> 00:23:45,465 Speaker 2: similar alone. 484 00:23:46,225 --> 00:23:49,065 Speaker 1: Twenty five thirty five I think it's twenty five, Yeah, 485 00:23:49,105 --> 00:23:52,105 Speaker 1: twenty five dollars. It would be go perfectly over the 486 00:23:52,185 --> 00:23:55,665 Speaker 1: Nagnita shorts, the wool aunties. Yeah, perfect over wool ants. 487 00:23:55,665 --> 00:23:57,265 Speaker 2: And even though it's sound of kind of a medium 488 00:23:57,265 --> 00:23:59,185 Speaker 2: weight and got that kind of Oxford. 489 00:23:58,785 --> 00:24:01,585 Speaker 1: Shirt vibe, you could wear that over swimmers in summer. Yeah. 490 00:24:01,665 --> 00:24:04,905 Speaker 2: Yeah, shorts, leather pants. I'm obsessed. I love how I'm 491 00:24:04,945 --> 00:24:08,345 Speaker 2: selling you on your own yep. My budget is a 492 00:24:08,345 --> 00:24:12,025 Speaker 2: bag from Bellini called the Hazel Handle Bag. Full price 493 00:24:12,065 --> 00:24:14,585 Speaker 2: at seventy nine ninety five. At the time of recording, 494 00:24:14,665 --> 00:24:18,145 Speaker 2: it's forty seven bucks. Wow, that worst casey spending eighty dollars. 495 00:24:18,185 --> 00:24:22,225 Speaker 2: So it's a Mulberry kind of ready BURGUNDYEP patent. 496 00:24:22,345 --> 00:24:24,465 Speaker 1: Oh that's incredible. Now can I tell you why I 497 00:24:24,585 --> 00:24:24,865 Speaker 1: brought that? 498 00:24:24,905 --> 00:24:27,065 Speaker 2: Because you have unique, cool bags that I always ask 499 00:24:27,145 --> 00:24:28,705 Speaker 2: you about, and this felt very Eliza. 500 00:24:29,065 --> 00:24:31,865 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a Ganny bag that looks very similar. 501 00:24:31,905 --> 00:24:36,785 Speaker 1: Okay that Yeah, we had Osmosis. It's just like shiny Patent, 502 00:24:36,825 --> 00:24:38,625 Speaker 1: which I find where it's quite well. If it's an 503 00:24:38,625 --> 00:24:42,905 Speaker 1: affordable brand, sometimes better than those cheap fake leathers. Bucket bag, 504 00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:46,465 Speaker 1: cool buckle like that looks designer. I love the gold 505 00:24:46,545 --> 00:24:49,505 Speaker 1: accent and I love how it's cinched in and it's 506 00:24:49,505 --> 00:24:50,505 Speaker 1: got little gold feet. 507 00:24:50,665 --> 00:24:52,905 Speaker 2: Yeah, with gold feats, maybe that will become the k 508 00:24:53,065 --> 00:24:57,185 Speaker 2: maut shirt bag of the office. Yeah, Eliza, I love you. 509 00:24:57,225 --> 00:24:59,705 Speaker 2: Thanks for being the best boss. Thanks for always inspiring 510 00:24:59,705 --> 00:25:01,425 Speaker 2: me with your style. And I hope you come back 511 00:25:01,425 --> 00:25:02,385 Speaker 2: and join us against him. 512 00:25:02,385 --> 00:25:04,465 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. This was so fun. Thank you Lee. 513 00:25:04,945 --> 00:25:07,065 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Nothing to Wear. 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