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Speaker 2: This is Mumma MIA's daily news podcast, The Quickie. Right

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Speaker 2: now across the world, Australia's athletes are gathering. They've spent

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Speaker 2: now they're gearing up for the real deal. Some have

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Speaker 2: But for others it's their very first time.

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Speaker 3: This is the second biggest team we've actually sent to

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Speaker 2: Today we speak to an Olympic first time and six

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Speaker 2: ahead of the tour twenty twenty four games. But first

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Speaker 2: let's get the latest from the Quickie Newsroom Friday, July nineteen.

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Speaker 2: According to sources close to internal party matters, former President

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Speaker 2: step away from the twenty twenty four presidential race. Pelosi

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Speaker 2: reportedly showed Biden polling that she argued shows he likely

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Speaker 2: Sutherland will return to his role as Jack Bauer. During

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Speaker 2: Well, we can't wait to that moment where it finally

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Speaker 2: How important is that to you to have that image

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Speaker 2: What are you most looking forward to at your first Olympics?

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Speaker 3: The food whole, I'm so the food whole. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: Larging way, While Alana tries to settle her first time nerves,

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Speaker 2: that in a tick. He's hoping to add a gold

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Speaker 2: Shane Rose, thanks for hanging out with us today, Shane.

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Speaker 2: How many games do you actually claim to have under

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Speaker 2: been called up, it comes to six, but you're often

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't get to compete in London or Atlanta,

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Speaker 4: So I certainly was picked for that.

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Speaker 1: This is the fifth Olympics I've been picked for, but

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Speaker 2: Well, can we talk about the horses for a second,

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Speaker 2: because you do not compete alone. They are athletes in

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Speaker 2: the fact that you've had to not compete twice now

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so eventing horses are pretty tough by nature. I'm

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Speaker 1: The fitness levels that they need to have. Injury, like

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Speaker 1: any sportsman, happens to horses as well. Unfortunately, it's happened

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Speaker 1: But yeah, preparing them for travel is not too bad.

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Speaker 1: The flight is very long.

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Speaker 2: Do they get jet lag? Horses?

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Speaker 1: They don't get jet lag as such. They get tired,

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Speaker 1: They'll sleep during the day, and of course most of

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Speaker 1: and takes them about six weeks or so for them

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Speaker 1: by the time, you know, hopefully we've competed and won

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Speaker 2: Okay, we need to discuss two main events that happened

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Speaker 2: not attend this games. Look, I don't know if there's

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Speaker 2: you for discussing this with me, but we have to

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Speaker 2: bring up the Mankini incident of February twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: A bor It inspired jockstrap has come between a man

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Speaker 5: been investigated for wearing the mankini at a recent fancy

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Speaker 5: He was still down from the team, casting doubt on

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Speaker 2: So you do rock out to an event, it's fancy dress.

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Speaker 2: Why why why did you choose to donn a mankeini

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Speaker 1: So a team Vet is great man, great Vet, quite

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Speaker 1: a fun character and he's sort of said he's worn

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Speaker 1: And so I got this hairy suit and put a

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Speaker 4: Zorba the Greek which is you know, he's a Greek.

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Speaker 1: Man, And thought it was really funny and thought of

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Speaker 1: and thought it would be a bit of a laugh,

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Speaker 2: Did you like, just for a second, think, no way

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Speaker 1: I thought that at the time, I was going to

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Speaker 2: Well, those plans got severely interrupted not even a month later.

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Speaker 2: So you're training a horse on jumps. What happened for

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't really know what happened. I know

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Speaker 1: The jump had fallen over, And you know I didn't

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Speaker 2: Well, can we clear this up? Because depending on what

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Speaker 2: nineteen broken bones. Can we clarify how many of you

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Speaker 4: Eighteen or nineteen? Then I'm not one hundredercent sure.

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Speaker 2: Once you get to fifteen, you must be like, do

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Like I mean if you're counting ribs, who cares

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Speaker 4: Yeah, once you've broken one or eight, they all hurt.

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Speaker 2: I mean, aside from the horrific injuries that you have

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Speaker 2: How does he compare to twenty twenty four Paris Games? Shane?

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Speaker 2: Now that you've got all this experience under your belt,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm a better rider now than I was

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Speaker 1: back then by a long way. Like I think my

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Speaker 1: The thing that makes things better as you get older

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Speaker 1: be at its best once you get to the games.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunate with Virgil that we've been together for a long

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Speaker 1: period as well, and.

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Speaker 4: This is his sixth trip to Europe and back.

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Speaker 2: We do need to clarify that Virgil is the name of.

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Speaker 4: Your hornse Yes, sorry, Virgil is my horse.

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Speaker 2: I imagine it was pretty rough back in ninety six

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Speaker 2: because Australia went on to win a gold medal in

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: Is it really the motivator? Is that gold medal still

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I love the sport and I love competing,

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Speaker 1: You know, I've always wanted to be the best in

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Speaker 1: it's a massive goal of mine and my teammates to.

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Speaker 4: Get that gold medal. I think we've got a great

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Speaker 6: It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to compete in

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Speaker 6: the Olympic Games, and then even more so to have

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Speaker 6: the chance to race for gold and be a legitimate chance.

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Speaker 6: You really have to be content with the decisions you make,

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Speaker 6: to be able to prioritize the training in my life

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